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darthanubisso far so good01:07
roastedI had an update break some webapps in 14.04. Then I got new updates a day later and they work.01:07
roasted<3 updates (sometimes, that is)01:08
darthanubischromium seemed to stop rendering properly01:08
darthanubisthe who gui not the websites01:08
darthanubisstill does it01:08
darthanubisdouble click the titlebar of chromium01:09
darthanubisok, double-click ANY window01:10
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roastedpop, lock, na na na01:33
JBViewerr_007wow,01:48
JBViewerr_007look at all this chatter...01:48
JBViewerr_007So, I installed onto a USB drive.  (not live environment, but actual install)01:50
JBViewerr_007the whole thing is nice, slick, fun, good looking01:51
JBViewerr_007hello, ejuan01:52
ejuanhey01:52
JBViewerr_007As I said, I tried the install today and I like it01:56
JBViewerr_007the laptop lid-close-suspend thingy didn't work, but I'm OK for now01:57
JBViewerr_007hello02:01
JBViewerr_007did anybody else get kicked out of the main room?02:02
JBViewerr_007apparently, I still might be in the wrong room.02:04
JBViewerr_007I wanted to talk about Ubuntu, but02:05
JBViewerr_007in the UBUNTU room, you're not allowed ??02:05
JBViewerr_007there is a separate ubuntu-off-topic room.02:05
JBViewerr_007so, if you're jazzed up about the upcoming release, DO NOT GO TO THE UBUNTU CHAT ROOM!02:06
Stanley00JBViewerr_007: each channel has its own topic, you must read the topic before talking in a channel.02:09
JBViewerr_007thank you, my irc ettiquette is awful02:10
JBViewerr_007so, big happenings at the 14.0402:23
JBViewerr_007hey, not so loud!02:25
JBViewerr_007*smiley*02:26
nf7Is there a way to get the mouse to disappear when typing like it does in Windows and OS X?02:34
JBViewerr_007Hi. I'm going to try it out real quick..02:37
JBViewerr_007My mouse pointer stays active too02:38
nf7JBViewerr_007: It's just kind of annoying to me cause there's no point for it to be active, and every other OS I've ever used makes it disappear.02:41
JBViewerr_007I'm sure that I've seen that setting before, but I didn't see it in 14,04.  - then again02:45
JBViewerr_007then again, I've only been using it for one day.02:45
nf7JBViewerr_007: Yeah I could have sworn that I've seen the setting before as well...02:45
JBViewerr_007Also, my susped-when-the-laptop-is-closed feature didn't work.02:46
JBViewerr_007I'm sure there is a work-around for it, but it didn't work earlier today...02:46
nf7JBViewerr_007: Strange. What brand of computer do you have? My Linux machine is a Lenovo Thinkpad, I don't think I've ever run across a single incompatibility on any distro ever.02:47
JBViewerr_007sony vaio - it works OK in my #!, so I know that it can be done02:48
nf7great02:49
nf7is that brand good for Linux in general?02:49
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JBViewerr_007I don't know, but it does work in other distros as well as in 12.04.02:51
trismbug 1649202:51
ubottubug 16492 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "Mouse pointer should disappear when keyboard is in use and mouse isn't" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1649202:51
trismnot that I've ever really noticed the mouse while typing02:51
nf7Ah so it is a bug02:56
nf7I'm in the IRC client irssi, a terminal program. When the mouse is in the terminal, it disappears as soon as I start typing, but not if the mouse is out and about (like on the desktop).02:56
trismmore of a feature request although it does work in certain situations from the comments...when I type in gedit it disappears and when I type in the chrome bar or in gnome-terminal02:57
nf7It's not really a big deal though, I just thought I'd ask if anyone had figured out the option to disable it, I thought I was overlooking it or something;.02:57
JBViewerr_007when I tried it out in Libre Office and in here (just an Opera tab), it definitely stays on02:58
JBViewerr_007but in the terminal, sure enough it goes away03:00
JBViewerr_007hey, len03:11
lenhi03:12
JBViewerr_007hi, basketball03:14
JBViewerr_007I've isssues with my laptop-suspend, but otherwise am enjoying my first day with 14.0403:15
basketballJBViewerr_007,  please dont ping random people03:16
JBViewerr_007?huh?03:26
JBViewerr_007all i said was hij03:27
JBViewerr_007hij=hi03:27
basketballJBViewerr_007,  ok well high03:31
JBViewerr_007what do you-all think of 14.04 so far? (not allowed to talk about it in the main #ubuntu yet)03:32
JBViewerr_007took me a while to install Opera, had to first install gdebi03:34
darthanubisit aint ready03:36
darthanubissome rendering issues03:36
JBViewerr_007me, I'm not sure if some of these features were there in v.13 or not, so it is mostly positive for me.03:43
JBViewerr_007hey, and the menus are back in the window where they belong! so, there is that.03:43
lotuspsychjedid someone test trusty on a nexus7 yet?04:17
JBViewerr_007hi, everyboody04:44
holsteinlotuspsychje: download and test on what you like04:48
holstein!touch04:48
ubottuInformation about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch04:48
lotuspsychjeholstein: yes tnx ive tested touch on my nexus704:49
lotuspsychjeholstein: but wanted to know if desktop version could work too?04:49
holsteinlotuspsychje: download it and try04:49
lotuspsychjei might when trusty releases :p04:50
rwwholstein: are there instructions for doing that somewhere? it sounds entertaining04:50
lotuspsychjethere is touch support on trusty desktop right?04:50
lotuspsychjerww: there was a 13.04 desktop to nexus tutorial, but that project is dead i think04:51
holsteinlotuspsychje: nothing about linux or ubuntu 14.04 is preventing any touchscreens from working04:51
lotuspsychjeubuntu-touch did not work flawless for me, so im stuck to insecure android grrr04:51
holsteinrww: i would think you would need the ARM version, though, for that device, i would use the os designed for it04:52
holsteinif i wanted a linux tablet, i would try and buy one.. should be some coming from system76 soon04:54
lotuspsychjeinteresting05:00
lotuspsychjeHP got an ubuntu laptop launched aswell ive read05:01
JBViewerr_007I was going to buy a used Nexus 4 to try it out, but that fell through.  Maybe it will come to a Kindle Fire? Those are getting pretty cheap (used) around here.05:07
michagogo|cloud1:10:20 <k1l_> john_rambo: run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade06:09
michagogo|cloudNot apt-get?06:09
michagogo|cloudAnd, full-upgrade? I thought it was do-release-upgrade06:09
rww!info apt trusty06:10
ubottuapt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 931 kB, installed size 3492 kB06:10
rwwmichagogo|cloud: "apt" is a command now. And do-release-upgrade is a whole different thing06:10
rwwfull-upgrade upgrades /within/ the version. do-release-upgrade upgrades to a new release06:10
michagogo|cloudWhat's the difference between apt and apt-get?06:11
michagogo|cloudrww: that isn't dist-upgrade?06:11
rwwmichagogo|cloud: read the manpages06:11
rwwthey're different frontends to the same thing, like aptitude is06:11
michagogo|cloudAptitude?06:12
* michagogo|cloud doesn't use Ubuntu much (if you couldn't tell :-P)06:12
michagogo|cloudI'll do some googling when I'm at my computer, I guess06:13
rwwmhm06:13
lordievaderGood morning.06:19
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hydeI just observed Firefox failing to restore previous tabs.07:38
hydeeven though Edit->Preferences->General Startup option says it should open last tabs and windows.07:39
AtuMI'm running into problems considering openvswitch package.. its dkms doesn't get built.. the make.log says: version newer than 3.12.x is not supported07:41
AtuMhere it is..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/126674907:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1266749 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "openvswitch-datapath-dkms fails to build with 3.13 kernel" [Medium,Confirmed]07:43
AtuMdue to this bug I cannot get my workstation fully upgraded to 14.04.. I am stuck with the 3.11 kernel07:44
jpdsAtuM: Isn't openvswitch built into trusty's kernel?07:44
AtuMjpds, what would I need to do to to make that work07:46
jpdsAtuM: Comment #1 seems to suggest that it's in the in-tree kernel.07:46
AtuMwhen upgrading the kernel, dkms gets built..07:46
jpdsAtuM: $ grep VSWITCH /boot/config-3.13.0-24-generic07:47
jpdsAtuM: Remove the DKMS package.07:47
jpdsAtuM: And just sudo modprobe openvswitch ?07:47
AtuMjpds, will try this.. it'll take a while since I need to reinstall the kernel07:49
AtuMjpds, do I just change CONFIG_OPENVSWITCH=m to CONFIG_OPENVSWITCH=n  ?07:50
jpdsAtuM: No.07:51
jpdsAtuM: I'm just showing you that openvswitch is compiled as a module in the Ubuntu kernel.07:51
AtuMjpds, that config is for building kernel.. it would make no sense :) how do I remove dkms?07:51
jpdsAtuM: sudo apt-get remove --purge openvswitch-datapath-dkms07:51
AtuMjpds, oh.. right.07:53
AtuMhopefully this will work after reboot :)07:57
AtuMjpds, thanks!! works perfectly now.08:05
PatBatemanhi08:05
PatBatemancongrats for 14.04 after a dist upgrade the long affected optimus problem is solved, I have working nvidia drivers :D08:07
DJonesPatBateman: Yeah, been working perfectly for me for about 2 months on a clean install08:14
euryalehi guys.08:28
euryaledoes anyone know how i can make an app-indicator?08:29
euryalei would love to make a custom menu for ubuntu, but don't know where or how to start. yes i need to learn a language.08:31
jpdseuryale: Well, there used to be stuff on developer.ubuntu.com.08:36
tomboy65is there a quick and dirty way to install ubuntu from a running linux into another partition?08:37
tomboy65without rebooting into the live image, that is08:37
k1ltomboy65: debootstrap08:39
tomboy65k1l: is 1.0.56 recent enough? or do i need 1.0.59?08:40
k1lthat should work since ages08:40
tomboy65great. thanks08:41
AtuMI've created a symlink to a bash script on my desktop.. I have no "Run" option .. it just opens within an editor. is there a simple way to run it as an app (it runs Viber.sh)08:50
lordievaderAtuM: Make it executable and put "#!/bin/bash" as the first line of the script.08:51
AtuMlordievader, it's done.. I'm trying to run in with a mouse click.. the menu doesn't give a "run" option.. just open08:53
AtuMIf i make a link to a binary i get "run" item in the menu..08:53
lordievaderAtuM: Don't know how Ubuntu does it these days, but Kubuntu show an dialog when an exacutable .sh is clicked. It asks if you want to run or open it.08:54
AtuMlordievader, I'd also expect unity to make executable shell files executable.. creating a launcher is an option, but i'd rather have a quick fix :)08:58
AtuMcan anyone else confirm this behaviour?08:59
aizae3neI guess they are trying to make it so that new users who click on anything can't mess up their system...09:02
AtuMaizae3ne, that would make ubuntu idiot proof and expert-unfriendly09:04
aizae3neAtuM: I suppose Debian with the classic gnome interface somewhat resembles what Ubuntu used to work like years ago.09:04
aizae3neAlthough I'm glad that the Amazon privacy feature is going to made opt-in some time in the future.09:06
AtuMthe whole zeitgheist should be an opt-in09:07
BluesKaj'Morning folks10:26
Crashbithi! anyone using gnome-shell, today when start computer, lost config of dock and extensions?10:32
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keevitajahi, where can i download lates ubuntu 14.04 lts?10:50
keevitajahttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/10:51
keevitajais this the place?10:51
BluesKajyes10:51
keevitajaok, tnx10:51
Crashbitok, solved, I rename .conf directory11:31
aaronrHey #ubuntu+1. So I'm trying to run a 32-bit app on Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit) that requires libsm6. I've got libsm6 installed, but there doesn't seem to be a libsm6:i386 package. Oddly libsm6 does exist in the 32-bit version of 14.04 according to Launchpad. I'm confused. How do I get the 32-bit version of libsm6 so that my app can run?13:12
MeerkatA bug that has been marked as fixed on launchpad is not fixed for me. A comment says "In the event that you encounter a regression using the package from -updates please report a new bug using ubuntu-bug and tag the bug report regression-update so we can easily find any regresssions.". If there's been multiple patches to the package since this fix do I still make a new report and mark it regression?13:14
bekksMeerkat: Yes.13:16
bekksMeerkat: Without a new regression bug, no one can track your regression.13:16
Meerkatthanks.13:17
john_ramboSomeone please give me the output of uname -a of FULLY UPDATED system13:18
felixonmarshi, i'm having a problem running apt-get dist-upgrade: invoke-rc.d: initscript hv-kvp-daemon, action "start" failed.13:19
felixonmarsit's an ubuntu 14.04 on windows azure, any idea?13:19
bekksjohn_rambo: Please give us your output ;)13:19
bekksjohn_rambo: And uname -a will only show kernel information, nothing else about a whatsoever updated system.13:20
john_rambobekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249700/13:20
bekksjohn_rambo: And whats the actual issue at thath point?13:21
MeerkatI have 3.13.0-24-generic on xubuntu 14.04.13:21
john_ramboI am having trouble with 3.13.0-24-generic .....The default in grub becomes low latency which gives me low resolution ...and selecting the regular ones gives me error and finally CLI Meerkat bekks13:22
keevitajaany chanche i could try installing 13.10 package on 14.04?13:23
john_rambothe regular 3.13.0-24-generic13:23
bekksjohn_rambo: "gives me error" means what exactly?13:23
felixonmars[465939.828174] init: Failed to spawn hv-kvp-daemon main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory13:23
felixonmarsi find this in dmesg13:23
john_rambobekks: Cant find root partition .....13:24
bekksjohn_rambo: Whats the full error?13:24
john_rambobekks: I will have to reboot and note it down .....BRB13:24
felixonmarswhen i try to apt-get install --reinstall hv-kvp-daemon-init, i get this: E: Internal Error, No file name for hv-kvp-daemon-init:amd6413:25
bekksfelixonmars: Is that a filename or a package name?13:26
felixonmarsapt-cache search told me it's a package name13:26
felixonmarswithout --reinstall, i get "hv-kvp-daemon-init is already the newest version."13:26
felixonmarsbut it's weird that i cannot reinstall it :/13:27
bekksfelixonmars: Pastebin "apt-cache policy hv-kvp-daemon-init" please13:27
felixonmarsbekks: http://paste.kde.org/pypkmo8mv/w2c92u/raw13:28
felixonmarsi kind of understand what happened13:29
felixonmarsit's a dependency cycle13:29
felixonmarshttp://paste.kde.org/p17sa2la6/cppgyw/raw13:29
felixonmarsany idea how to solve it?13:29
Roryfelixonmars: Can you run "sudo service hv-kvp-daemon start" on its own?13:33
felixonmarsno, it fails13:33
felixonmarsi just tried to pass --force-depends to install hv-kvp-daemon-init, but it still fails to start13:34
felixonmarsfile hv-kvp-daemon is not found anywhere13:34
michagogo|cloudAt what point do PPAs get the ability to build for trusty?13:36
michagogo|cloudOn FinalRelease day?13:37
GraemeLionmichagogo|cloud: I think they can build for trusty now. I've had plenty of PPA's added13:37
michagogo|cloudAh, really? Thanks13:38
GraemeLionYeah, I have juju team's, webupd8's, and a few other trusty ppa's.  That's one inside Canonical, and a few outside13:38
john_rambobekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249801/13:45
john_ramboIs reinstalling the only way out ?14:04
bekksjohn_rambo: Boot a working kernel, and reinstall the non-working kernel.14:06
john_rambobekks: Tried that. Same thing14:07
MeerkatMy home and end key doesn't work in firefox 28 anymore. Can someone else test?14:07
Meerkatrestarting fixed it.14:09
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keevitajahow do i install skype on 14.04 ?14:46
Rorysudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty partner' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list"15:01
Rorysudo apt-get update15:01
Rorysudo apt-get install skype15:01
Rorykeevitaja: To find that I googled: "how do i install skype on 14.04 ?"15:02
felixonmarshrm, still didn't figure out how to fix my box :/15:10
felixonmarshv-kvp-daemon is not found even i downgrade hv-kvp-daemon-init15:11
lordievaderGood afternoon.15:16
felixonmarshi15:17
felixonmarsdiverted by hv-kvp-daemon-init to: /usr/sbin/hv_kvp_daemon.hv-kvp-daemon-init15:17
felixonmarswhat do this "diverted" mean?15:17
felixonmarsfinally i workaround the problem with "/usr/sbin# ln -s hv_kvp_daemon.hv-kvp-daemon-init hv_kvp_daemon"15:23
felixonmarsi don't think it's the right thing to do though :(15:23
felixonmarsnow those packages upgrades successfully15:23
roastedhello you beautiful people15:38
Meerkatroasted, oh you charmer15:45
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roastedthat's how I roll Meerkat :D16:04
roastedI'm making some animated gif's to show my bug report a bit easier. :)16:04
jackwhat releasename is next, after trusty?16:12
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k1ljack: not yet16:13
jackno name yet?16:13
jackshrug16:13
bekksNo.16:13
k1lwait to after the release of 14.0416:13
MeerkatUrban urial?16:13
jackok, sure16:13
Meerkatnot many animal names on U.16:14
jackwhy u??16:14
bekksjack: Because u comes after t?16:14
k1ljack: really?16:14
* Pici snerks16:15
jackk1l, sure (i'm unenlightened)16:15
Meerkatwhat came before feisty fawn? I cannot remember.16:16
k1ljack: see the release names from the last ubuntu releases: precise, quantal, raring, saucy, trusty,.... you see where that is going?16:16
roastedUnified Unicorn!16:17
jackbreezy blurbsomething16:17
jackbadger or so16:17
elfyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases16:17
roastedUnified Unicorn running Unity 8 and Mir with full Unity convergence among all unifiable devices.16:17
roastedcalling it16:17
GraemeLionEdgy Eft16:17
jackoh cool, thx16:18
* elfy has been calling 14.10 Unreal Unicorn for a long time :p16:18
Meerkatah, edgy eft! Good old eft.16:19
GraemeLionWatch Mark decide that the naming convention needs to change :P16:19
RoryMy first one was Hoary Hedgehog16:19
jackk1l, sure - i'd say all the way to z16:19
RoryMy favourite release was Edgy Eft16:19
RoryOr possibly Hardy16:20
RoryHardy had the best wallpaper, that's for sure16:20
jacki started when breezy was current16:20
Meerkatbrown ubuntu was the best ubuntu16:20
GraemeLionI go all the way back to warty.  But my favorite by far was Precise or Hardy16:20
jackfirst one i installed at home was feisty though16:21
GraemeLionTho Trusty is really got me.  I think Unity might just be where it needs to be finally16:21
RoryI liked Hardy so much, I am currently running Mate with dual-panels (Hardy-style) with the Hardy wallpaper16:21
RoryThey'll prise my dual panels out of my cold dead hands16:21
roastedhardy and intrepid had the best default backgrounds16:21
roastedmoreso intrepid imo16:21
RoryWas intrepid the coffee-stain?16:21
roastedintrepid was the bull thinger16:22
RoryLooked like when you leave a cup of coffee on a desk and it leaves a mark16:22
RoryI liked that one too16:22
roastedguys. look how similar highlighted vs non-highlighted icons look when they need attention (skype in this example) - http://oi62.tinypic.com/nxjgh3.jpg16:24
roastedhardly a difference.16:24
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alketfor 7 years that I use ubuntu, the Albanian repo is always outdated , how come ?17:43
alketis this the case with other mirrors too ?17:43
Aki-Thinkpadalket, isn't albania a peoples republic or something17:55
Aki-Thinkpad?17:55
Aki-ThinkpadCommunist rule in Albania ended in 1992.... hmmm17:57
Aki-Thinkpadwell there goes my explanation17:57
chowderhey guys I know this channel is only for discussion of prerelease version of Ubuntu but I'm not getting much help in the main channel. Is it alright to ask my question here? The main issue is that my system isn't decrypting my LUKS volume. I get dropped to a busybox. No idea how to fix it. Google doesn't bring up much.17:58
Aki-Thinkpadive never even heard of a luks volume17:59
chowderAki-Thinkpad, probably using wrong terminology. What I meant is that the entire partition is encrypted with LUKS.18:02
chowderhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7250828/     http://paste.ubuntu.com/7250837/18:02
Aki-Thinkpadchowder, Oh no, I am sure its my ignorance at fault here. For file system questions, I usually have better luck in places like #kernel or #btrfs (those channels could probably tell you the best place for luks)18:05
Aki-Thinkpadthe best channel for luks based questions*18:05
chowderthanks a lot. I could wipe everything and reinstall but I'm stubborn. I see this as a challenge and a learning experience. Plus my buddy is using my external hard drive so I don't have access to it. :/18:06
melkorWould there be an advantage to waiting until the 17th to swap hard drives? I have a new ssd that I want to install.18:39
bekksmelkor: Why is the release of 14.04 involved into you change of harddrives?18:39
melkorI guess it would be a fresh install vs using the current install media and updating.18:40
rbergHave others been having graphical glitches on kubuntu 14.04?18:40
melkorrberg: I have a few. especially with firefox.18:41
rbergI do use firefox18:41
melkorAlso, I have an external usb case, is there a good way to copy my current partition/ install to my new hd?18:42
melkorOr should I reinstall kubuntu and then copy the user directories and /usr/local partitions.18:42
nutzzhey guys, everytime I plug in the AC cable docky is closing, this is happening since I have updated to 14.04. What should I do?19:06
vividrberg, not really for me, but im not using ubuntu's kernel or mesa stack19:09
vividonly a couple issues after they push mesa updates19:10
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kupo_Notice one bug with a certain font on xubuntu. While using "tamsyn" it crashes panel if right click or if right click for desktop settings. only when using it as main font in apperence section19:20
robotti^I have problem. I have trying to run apt-get update. but problem persists. It will print W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/varlib/apt/lists/partial/fi.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists/trusty_universe_source_Sources Has Sum mismatch and so on.19:26
robotti^problem is same all my trusty installs19:27
robotti^I also try it with se.archive.ubuntu.com repo and problem persists.19:27
bekksrobotti^: try archive.ubuntu.com19:27
robotti^bekks: thanks. that solves it. they seems to be updating repo or something.19:32
bekksrobotti^: yeah, currently, a lot of mirror updates are on their ways, for thursday. :)19:32
kupo_thursday official LTS day?19:36
BluesKajkupo_, yes19:38
kupo_I noticed one bug with certain font. not sure if able to fix or what.19:38
kupo_ Notice one bug with a certain font on xubuntu. While using "tamsyn" it crashes panel if right click or if right click for desktop settings. only when using it as main font in apperence section19:38
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xanguais there any major bug in the beta at this moment? where could I check this?20:09
bekksxangua: launchpad.net20:14
TiCPUI cannot perform a full upgrade on 2 different installations because of wine1.6, is that a known problem?20:15
basketballwhen i am googleing something and looking through results why does google go back to a search from a week ago21:41
basketballlwhen i am googleing something and looking through results why does google go back to a search from a week ago21:45
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kupo_On xubuntu. while using font "tamsyn". If i right click to desktop settings on right click panel it crashes. any fix23:02
bekkskupo_: Did you create a bug report yet? Without it, there will be no fix.23:03
kupo_hmm nope. the font doesn't come out of box. so not sure if they would bother.23:04
kupo_How exactly do i file a report? make an account at launchpad or where23:04
bekksyeah, on launchpad.net23:05

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