=== Guest54492 is now known as cyphase === quem_ is now known as quem [01:07] so far so good [01:07] I had an update break some webapps in 14.04. Then I got new updates a day later and they work. [01:08] <3 updates (sometimes, that is) [01:08] chromium seemed to stop rendering properly [01:08] the who gui not the websites [01:08] still does it [01:09] double click the titlebar of chromium [01:10] ok, double-click ANY window === mpmc is now known as mpmc[BNC4FREE] [01:33] pop, lock, na na na [01:48] wow, [01:48] look at all this chatter... [01:50] So, I installed onto a USB drive. (not live environment, but actual install) [01:51] the whole thing is nice, slick, fun, good looking [01:52] hello, ejuan [01:52] hey [01:56] As I said, I tried the install today and I like it [01:57] the laptop lid-close-suspend thingy didn't work, but I'm OK for now [02:01] hello [02:02] did anybody else get kicked out of the main room? [02:04] apparently, I still might be in the wrong room. [02:05] I wanted to talk about Ubuntu, but [02:05] in the UBUNTU room, you're not allowed ?? [02:05] there is a separate ubuntu-off-topic room. [02:06] so, if you're jazzed up about the upcoming release, DO NOT GO TO THE UBUNTU CHAT ROOM! [02:09] JBViewerr_007: each channel has its own topic, you must read the topic before talking in a channel. [02:10] thank you, my irc ettiquette is awful [02:23] so, big happenings at the 14.04 [02:25] hey, not so loud! [02:26] *smiley* [02:34] Is there a way to get the mouse to disappear when typing like it does in Windows and OS X? [02:37] Hi. I'm going to try it out real quick.. [02:38] My mouse pointer stays active too [02:41] JBViewerr_007: It's just kind of annoying to me cause there's no point for it to be active, and every other OS I've ever used makes it disappear. [02:45] I'm sure that I've seen that setting before, but I didn't see it in 14,04. - then again [02:45] then again, I've only been using it for one day. [02:45] JBViewerr_007: Yeah I could have sworn that I've seen the setting before as well... [02:46] Also, my susped-when-the-laptop-is-closed feature didn't work. [02:46] I'm sure there is a work-around for it, but it didn't work earlier today... [02:47] JBViewerr_007: Strange. What brand of computer do you have? My Linux machine is a Lenovo Thinkpad, I don't think I've ever run across a single incompatibility on any distro ever. [02:48] sony vaio - it works OK in my #!, so I know that it can be done [02:49] great [02:49] is that brand good for Linux in general? === quem_ is now known as quem [02:51] I don't know, but it does work in other distros as well as in 12.04. [02:51] bug 16492 [02:51] bug 16492 in gtk+2.0 (Ubuntu) "Mouse pointer should disappear when keyboard is in use and mouse isn't" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/16492 [02:51] not that I've ever really noticed the mouse while typing [02:56] Ah so it is a bug [02:56] I'm in the IRC client irssi, a terminal program. When the mouse is in the terminal, it disappears as soon as I start typing, but not if the mouse is out and about (like on the desktop). [02:57] more of a feature request although it does work in certain situations from the comments...when I type in gedit it disappears and when I type in the chrome bar or in gnome-terminal [02:57] It's not really a big deal though, I just thought I'd ask if anyone had figured out the option to disable it, I thought I was overlooking it or something;. [02:58] when I tried it out in Libre Office and in here (just an Opera tab), it definitely stays on [03:00] but in the terminal, sure enough it goes away [03:11] hey, len [03:12] hi [03:14] hi, basketball [03:15] I've isssues with my laptop-suspend, but otherwise am enjoying my first day with 14.04 [03:16] JBViewerr_007, please dont ping random people [03:26] ?huh? [03:27] all i said was hij [03:27] hij=hi [03:31] JBViewerr_007, ok well high [03:32] what do you-all think of 14.04 so far? (not allowed to talk about it in the main #ubuntu yet) [03:34] took me a while to install Opera, had to first install gdebi [03:36] it aint ready [03:36] some rendering issues [03:43] me, I'm not sure if some of these features were there in v.13 or not, so it is mostly positive for me. [03:43] hey, and the menus are back in the window where they belong! so, there is that. [04:17] did someone test trusty on a nexus7 yet? [04:44] hi, everyboody [04:48] lotuspsychje: download and test on what you like [04:48] !touch [04:48] Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch [04:49] holstein: yes tnx ive tested touch on my nexus7 [04:49] holstein: but wanted to know if desktop version could work too? [04:49] lotuspsychje: download it and try [04:50] i might when trusty releases :p [04:50] holstein: are there instructions for doing that somewhere? it sounds entertaining [04:50] there is touch support on trusty desktop right? [04:51] rww: there was a 13.04 desktop to nexus tutorial, but that project is dead i think [04:51] lotuspsychje: nothing about linux or ubuntu 14.04 is preventing any touchscreens from working [04:51] ubuntu-touch did not work flawless for me, so im stuck to insecure android grrr [04:52] rww: i would think you would need the ARM version, though, for that device, i would use the os designed for it [04:54] if i wanted a linux tablet, i would try and buy one.. should be some coming from system76 soon [05:00] interesting [05:01] HP got an ubuntu laptop launched aswell ive read [05:07] I was going to buy a used Nexus 4 to try it out, but that fell through. Maybe it will come to a Kindle Fire? Those are getting pretty cheap (used) around here. [06:09] 1:10:20 john_rambo: run sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade [06:09] Not apt-get? [06:09] And, full-upgrade? I thought it was do-release-upgrade [06:10] !info apt trusty [06:10] apt (source: apt): commandline package manager. In component main, is important. Version 1.0.1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 931 kB, installed size 3492 kB [06:10] michagogo|cloud: "apt" is a command now. And do-release-upgrade is a whole different thing [06:10] full-upgrade upgrades /within/ the version. do-release-upgrade upgrades to a new release [06:11] What's the difference between apt and apt-get? [06:11] rww: that isn't dist-upgrade? [06:11] michagogo|cloud: read the manpages [06:11] they're different frontends to the same thing, like aptitude is [06:12] Aptitude? [06:12] * michagogo|cloud doesn't use Ubuntu much (if you couldn't tell :-P) [06:13] I'll do some googling when I'm at my computer, I guess [06:13] mhm [06:19] Good morning. === mpmc[BNC4FREE] is now known as mpmc [07:38] I just observed Firefox failing to restore previous tabs. [07:39] even though Edit->Preferences->General Startup option says it should open last tabs and windows. [07:41] I'm running into problems considering openvswitch package.. its dkms doesn't get built.. the make.log says: version newer than 3.12.x is not supported [07:43] here it is..https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1266749 [07:43] Launchpad bug 1266749 in openvswitch (Ubuntu) "openvswitch-datapath-dkms fails to build with 3.13 kernel" [Medium,Confirmed] [07:44] due to this bug I cannot get my workstation fully upgraded to 14.04.. I am stuck with the 3.11 kernel [07:44] AtuM: Isn't openvswitch built into trusty's kernel? [07:46] jpds, what would I need to do to to make that work [07:46] AtuM: Comment #1 seems to suggest that it's in the in-tree kernel. [07:46] when upgrading the kernel, dkms gets built.. [07:47] AtuM: $ grep VSWITCH /boot/config-3.13.0-24-generic [07:47] AtuM: Remove the DKMS package. [07:47] AtuM: And just sudo modprobe openvswitch ? [07:49] jpds, will try this.. it'll take a while since I need to reinstall the kernel [07:50] jpds, do I just change CONFIG_OPENVSWITCH=m to CONFIG_OPENVSWITCH=n ? [07:51] AtuM: No. [07:51] AtuM: I'm just showing you that openvswitch is compiled as a module in the Ubuntu kernel. [07:51] jpds, that config is for building kernel.. it would make no sense :) how do I remove dkms? [07:51] AtuM: sudo apt-get remove --purge openvswitch-datapath-dkms [07:53] jpds, oh.. right. [07:57] hopefully this will work after reboot :) [08:05] jpds, thanks!! works perfectly now. [08:05] hi [08:07] congrats for 14.04 after a dist upgrade the long affected optimus problem is solved, I have working nvidia drivers :D [08:14] PatBateman: Yeah, been working perfectly for me for about 2 months on a clean install [08:28] hi guys. [08:29] does anyone know how i can make an app-indicator? [08:31] i would love to make a custom menu for ubuntu, but don't know where or how to start. yes i need to learn a language. [08:36] euryale: Well, there used to be stuff on developer.ubuntu.com. [08:37] is there a quick and dirty way to install ubuntu from a running linux into another partition? [08:37] without rebooting into the live image, that is [08:39] tomboy65: debootstrap [08:40] k1l: is 1.0.56 recent enough? or do i need 1.0.59? [08:40] that should work since ages [08:41] great. thanks [08:50] I've created a symlink to a bash script on my desktop.. I have no "Run" option .. it just opens within an editor. is there a simple way to run it as an app (it runs Viber.sh) [08:51] AtuM: Make it executable and put "#!/bin/bash" as the first line of the script. [08:53] lordievader, it's done.. I'm trying to run in with a mouse click.. the menu doesn't give a "run" option.. just open [08:53] If i make a link to a binary i get "run" item in the menu.. [08:54] AtuM: Don't know how Ubuntu does it these days, but Kubuntu show an dialog when an exacutable .sh is clicked. It asks if you want to run or open it. [08:58] lordievader, I'd also expect unity to make executable shell files executable.. creating a launcher is an option, but i'd rather have a quick fix :) [08:59] can anyone else confirm this behaviour? [09:02] I guess they are trying to make it so that new users who click on anything can't mess up their system... [09:04] aizae3ne, that would make ubuntu idiot proof and expert-unfriendly [09:04] AtuM: I suppose Debian with the classic gnome interface somewhat resembles what Ubuntu used to work like years ago. [09:06] Although I'm glad that the Amazon privacy feature is going to made opt-in some time in the future. [09:07] the whole zeitgheist should be an opt-in [10:26] 'Morning folks [10:32] hi! anyone using gnome-shell, today when start computer, lost config of dock and extensions? === quem_ is now known as quem === beidl_ is now known as beidl [10:50] hi, where can i download lates ubuntu 14.04 lts? [10:51] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ [10:51] is this the place? [10:51] yes [10:51] ok, tnx [11:31] ok, solved, I rename .conf directory [13:12] Hey #ubuntu+1. So I'm trying to run a 32-bit app on Ubuntu 14.04 (64-bit) that requires libsm6. I've got libsm6 installed, but there doesn't seem to be a libsm6:i386 package. Oddly libsm6 does exist in the 32-bit version of 14.04 according to Launchpad. I'm confused. How do I get the 32-bit version of libsm6 so that my app can run? [13:14] A bug that has been marked as fixed on launchpad is not fixed for me. A comment says "In the event that you encounter a regression using the package from -updates please report a new bug using ubuntu-bug and tag the bug report regression-update so we can easily find any regresssions.". If there's been multiple patches to the package since this fix do I still make a new report and mark it regression? [13:16] Meerkat: Yes. [13:16] Meerkat: Without a new regression bug, no one can track your regression. [13:17] thanks. [13:18] Someone please give me the output of uname -a of FULLY UPDATED system [13:19] hi, i'm having a problem running apt-get dist-upgrade: invoke-rc.d: initscript hv-kvp-daemon, action "start" failed. [13:19] it's an ubuntu 14.04 on windows azure, any idea? [13:19] john_rambo: Please give us your output ;) [13:20] john_rambo: And uname -a will only show kernel information, nothing else about a whatsoever updated system. [13:20] bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249700/ [13:21] john_rambo: And whats the actual issue at thath point? [13:21] I have 3.13.0-24-generic on xubuntu 14.04. [13:22] I am having trouble with 3.13.0-24-generic .....The default in grub becomes low latency which gives me low resolution ...and selecting the regular ones gives me error and finally CLI Meerkat bekks [13:23] any chanche i could try installing 13.10 package on 14.04? [13:23] the regular 3.13.0-24-generic [13:23] john_rambo: "gives me error" means what exactly? [13:23] [465939.828174] init: Failed to spawn hv-kvp-daemon main process: unable to execute: No such file or directory [13:23] i find this in dmesg [13:24] bekks: Cant find root partition ..... [13:24] john_rambo: Whats the full error? [13:24] bekks: I will have to reboot and note it down .....BRB [13:25] when i try to apt-get install --reinstall hv-kvp-daemon-init, i get this: E: Internal Error, No file name for hv-kvp-daemon-init:amd64 [13:26] felixonmars: Is that a filename or a package name? [13:26] apt-cache search told me it's a package name [13:26] without --reinstall, i get "hv-kvp-daemon-init is already the newest version." [13:27] but it's weird that i cannot reinstall it :/ [13:27] felixonmars: Pastebin "apt-cache policy hv-kvp-daemon-init" please [13:28] bekks: http://paste.kde.org/pypkmo8mv/w2c92u/raw [13:29] i kind of understand what happened [13:29] it's a dependency cycle [13:29] http://paste.kde.org/p17sa2la6/cppgyw/raw [13:29] any idea how to solve it? [13:33] felixonmars: Can you run "sudo service hv-kvp-daemon start" on its own? [13:33] no, it fails [13:34] i just tried to pass --force-depends to install hv-kvp-daemon-init, but it still fails to start [13:34] file hv-kvp-daemon is not found anywhere [13:36] At what point do PPAs get the ability to build for trusty? [13:37] On FinalRelease day? [13:37] michagogo|cloud: I think they can build for trusty now. I've had plenty of PPA's added [13:38] Ah, really? Thanks [13:38] Yeah, I have juju team's, webupd8's, and a few other trusty ppa's. That's one inside Canonical, and a few outside [13:45] bekks: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249801/ [14:04] Is reinstalling the only way out ? [14:06] john_rambo: Boot a working kernel, and reinstall the non-working kernel. [14:07] bekks: Tried that. Same thing [14:07] My home and end key doesn't work in firefox 28 anymore. Can someone else test? [14:09] restarting fixed it. === roasted_ is now known as roasted [14:46] how do i install skype on 14.04 ? [15:01] sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://archive.canonical.com/ trusty partner' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/canonical_partner.list" [15:01] sudo apt-get update [15:01] sudo apt-get install skype [15:02] keevitaja: To find that I googled: "how do i install skype on 14.04 ?" [15:10] hrm, still didn't figure out how to fix my box :/ [15:11] hv-kvp-daemon is not found even i downgrade hv-kvp-daemon-init [15:16] Good afternoon. [15:17] hi [15:17] diverted by hv-kvp-daemon-init to: /usr/sbin/hv_kvp_daemon.hv-kvp-daemon-init [15:17] what do this "diverted" mean? [15:23] finally i workaround the problem with "/usr/sbin# ln -s hv_kvp_daemon.hv-kvp-daemon-init hv_kvp_daemon" [15:23] i don't think it's the right thing to do though :( [15:23] now those packages upgrades successfully [15:38] hello you beautiful people [15:45] roasted, oh you charmer === om26er_ is now known as om26er|food [16:04] that's how I roll Meerkat :D [16:04] I'm making some animated gif's to show my bug report a bit easier. :) [16:12] what releasename is next, after trusty? === om26er|food is now known as om26er [16:13] jack: not yet [16:13] no name yet? [16:13] shrug [16:13] No. [16:13] wait to after the release of 14.04 [16:13] Urban urial? [16:13] ok, sure [16:14] not many animal names on U. [16:14] why u?? [16:14] jack: Because u comes after t? [16:14] jack: really? [16:15] * Pici snerks [16:15] k1l, sure (i'm unenlightened) [16:16] what came before feisty fawn? I cannot remember. [16:16] jack: see the release names from the last ubuntu releases: precise, quantal, raring, saucy, trusty,.... you see where that is going? [16:17] Unified Unicorn! [16:17] breezy blurbsomething [16:17] badger or so [16:17] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases [16:17] Unified Unicorn running Unity 8 and Mir with full Unity convergence among all unifiable devices. [16:17] calling it [16:17] Edgy Eft [16:18] oh cool, thx [16:18] * elfy has been calling 14.10 Unreal Unicorn for a long time :p [16:19] ah, edgy eft! Good old eft. [16:19] Watch Mark decide that the naming convention needs to change :P [16:19] My first one was Hoary Hedgehog [16:19] k1l, sure - i'd say all the way to z [16:19] My favourite release was Edgy Eft [16:20] Or possibly Hardy [16:20] Hardy had the best wallpaper, that's for sure [16:20] i started when breezy was current [16:20] brown ubuntu was the best ubuntu [16:20] I go all the way back to warty. But my favorite by far was Precise or Hardy [16:21] first one i installed at home was feisty though [16:21] Tho Trusty is really got me. I think Unity might just be where it needs to be finally [16:21] I liked Hardy so much, I am currently running Mate with dual-panels (Hardy-style) with the Hardy wallpaper [16:21] They'll prise my dual panels out of my cold dead hands [16:21] hardy and intrepid had the best default backgrounds [16:21] moreso intrepid imo [16:21] Was intrepid the coffee-stain? [16:22] intrepid was the bull thinger [16:22] Looked like when you leave a cup of coffee on a desk and it leaves a mark [16:22] I liked that one too [16:24] guys. look how similar highlighted vs non-highlighted icons look when they need attention (skype in this example) - http://oi62.tinypic.com/nxjgh3.jpg [16:24] hardly a difference. === jack is now known as Guest56099 === Guest56099 is now known as jack === jack is now known as Guest27049 === Guest27049 is now known as jack [17:43] for 7 years that I use ubuntu, the Albanian repo is always outdated , how come ? [17:43] is this the case with other mirrors too ? [17:55] alket, isn't albania a peoples republic or something [17:55] ? [17:57] Communist rule in Albania ended in 1992.... hmmm [17:57] well there goes my explanation [17:58] hey guys I know this channel is only for discussion of prerelease version of Ubuntu but I'm not getting much help in the main channel. Is it alright to ask my question here? The main issue is that my system isn't decrypting my LUKS volume. I get dropped to a busybox. No idea how to fix it. Google doesn't bring up much. [17:59] ive never even heard of a luks volume [18:02] Aki-Thinkpad, probably using wrong terminology. What I meant is that the entire partition is encrypted with LUKS. [18:02] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7250828/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/7250837/ [18:05] chowder, Oh no, I am sure its my ignorance at fault here. For file system questions, I usually have better luck in places like #kernel or #btrfs (those channels could probably tell you the best place for luks) [18:05] the best channel for luks based questions* [18:06] thanks a lot. I could wipe everything and reinstall but I'm stubborn. I see this as a challenge and a learning experience. Plus my buddy is using my external hard drive so I don't have access to it. :/ [18:39] Would there be an advantage to waiting until the 17th to swap hard drives? I have a new ssd that I want to install. [18:39] melkor: Why is the release of 14.04 involved into you change of harddrives? [18:40] I guess it would be a fresh install vs using the current install media and updating. [18:40] Have others been having graphical glitches on kubuntu 14.04? [18:41] rberg: I have a few. especially with firefox. [18:41] I do use firefox [18:42] Also, I have an external usb case, is there a good way to copy my current partition/ install to my new hd? [18:42] Or should I reinstall kubuntu and then copy the user directories and /usr/local partitions. [19:06] hey guys, everytime I plug in the AC cable docky is closing, this is happening since I have updated to 14.04. What should I do? [19:09] rberg, not really for me, but im not using ubuntu's kernel or mesa stack [19:10] only a couple issues after they push mesa updates === Jordan_U_ is now known as Jordan_U [19:20] Notice one bug with a certain font on xubuntu. While using "tamsyn" it crashes panel if right click or if right click for desktop settings. only when using it as main font in apperence section [19:26] I have problem. I have trying to run apt-get update. but problem persists. It will print W: Failed to fetch bzip2:/varlib/apt/lists/partial/fi.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists/trusty_universe_source_Sources Has Sum mismatch and so on. [19:27] problem is same all my trusty installs [19:27] I also try it with se.archive.ubuntu.com repo and problem persists. [19:27] robotti^: try archive.ubuntu.com [19:32] bekks: thanks. that solves it. they seems to be updating repo or something. [19:32] robotti^: yeah, currently, a lot of mirror updates are on their ways, for thursday. :) [19:36] thursday official LTS day? [19:38] kupo_, yes [19:38] I noticed one bug with certain font. not sure if able to fix or what. [19:38] Notice one bug with a certain font on xubuntu. While using "tamsyn" it crashes panel if right click or if right click for desktop settings. only when using it as main font in apperence section === jack is now known as Guest79574 === Guest79574 is now known as jack [20:09] is there any major bug in the beta at this moment? where could I check this? [20:14] xangua: launchpad.net [20:15] I cannot perform a full upgrade on 2 different installations because of wine1.6, is that a known problem? [21:41] when i am googleing something and looking through results why does google go back to a search from a week ago [21:45] when i am googleing something and looking through results why does google go back to a search from a week ago === jack is now known as Guest10814 [23:02] On xubuntu. while using font "tamsyn". If i right click to desktop settings on right click panel it crashes. any fix [23:03] kupo_: Did you create a bug report yet? Without it, there will be no fix. [23:04] hmm nope. the font doesn't come out of box. so not sure if they would bother. [23:04] How exactly do i file a report? make an account at launchpad or where [23:05] yeah, on launchpad.net