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Thedemon007Hello can update xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy ?? in saucy release new versión see bug #120564300:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1205643 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy (Ubuntu) "VIA P4M800 graphics broken in Lubuntu/Xubuntu Saucy & 12.04.4 candidate" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120564300:01
maclin_slangasek, thanks. The restart function of ubuntu kylin software center will be updated as your suggestion in next version after release:)02:31
Thedemon007Ok i add a debdiff for update the package xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy in the bug #1205643  I think it will help.02:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 1205643 in xserver-xorg-video-openchrome-lts-saucy (Ubuntu) "VIA P4M800 graphics broken in Lubuntu/Xubuntu Saucy & 12.04.4 candidate" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/120564302:41
Thedemon007I guessed before that this is automatically updated to be updated package saucy. But apparently not the case :S02:48
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infinity^-- Self-accepted that d-i, it's a no-change rebuild that I want done while I eat breakfast. :P06:21
RAOFinfinity: Hm. We were going to talk about AA training sometime...06:25
infinityRAOF: Release week is probably not the best training week.06:27
RAOFinfinity: I was thinking that, yes.06:27
RAOFJust a reminder to myself and you so that I don't forget entirely :)06:28
tjaaltonI have two commits to enable broadwell on mesa http://pastebin.com/TxMH72c906:39
tjaaltonbeen running fine over the weekend, as emailed on ubuntu-release@ a minute ago06:40
tjaaltonok to upload?06:41
infinitytjaalton: Looks fine, upload quick.  I intend to get to spinning RCs when I get into the office.06:58
infinity(Or, I guess, once that mesa migrates. :P06:58
infinity)06:58
tjaaltoncool, thx06:59
tjaaltonthere07:00
infinityThanks for the 1.6MB diff, LP...07:01
infinitycrontab gone manual, precise disabled too so it doens't get in our way.07:30
infinitystgraber: Still awake, by any chance?07:30
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infinitystgraber: Hey you.  Fix lxc-unpriv-cgroup.conf on https://www.stgraber.org/2014/01/17/lxc-1-0-unprivileged-containers/ to not break people's computers.  kthx.09:16
wgrant(cgroup-lite was removed in yesterday's dist-upgrade, so that job prevented systemd-logind from starting, so everything was pretty bborked)09:17
jibelRiddell, there are 2 serious installer issues in kubuntu: bug 129825109:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1298251 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[kubuntu] Ubiquity crash when starting LiveCD with a chosen language" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129825109:20
jibeland bug 130729109:20
ubot2Launchpad bug 1307291 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[kubuntu] crash when partitioning" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130729109:20
jibelRiddell, can you or someone from the kubuntu team have a look?09:21
jibelRiddell, and not a crash but not nice bug 129988109:21
ubot2Launchpad bug 1299881 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "[kubuntu] Strange characters in different locale" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129988109:21
Riddelljibel: thanks yeah I'll take a look09:27
jibelcjwatson, bug 1306704 is another crash in parted_server easy to reproduce with a FAT32 FS09:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 1306704 in parted (Ubuntu Trusty) "parted_server crashed with SIGABRT in ped_assert()" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130670409:39
cjwatsonYes, I saw the mail, thanks09:39
cjwatsonMight need psusi's help though09:39
jamespageplease could the new rc's for swift and glance be reviewed/accepted for trusty (maybe Daviey if he's around?)09:40
jamespageurgh - in actual fact please can the swift upload be rejected - the breaks/replaces for swift-object-expirer are still not right09:43
infinityjamespage: Done.10:00
jamespageinfinity, thanks10:03
jamespageuploading a new version now10:03
seb128infinity, Laney, other: is there still room for an unity upload today?10:07
infinityseb128: Depends on what it fixes and how.10:07
seb128infinity, https://code.launchpad.net/~beidl/unity/unity-lockscreen-gestures/+merge/21556910:08
seb128infinity, basically the new lockscreen let you trigger an "alt-tab" which shows preview of open programs, using gestures10:08
infinityAhh, I think wgrant saw that earlier.10:09
infinityseb128: If that's well-tested, I think we definitely want that fix.10:09
seb128infinity, I'm working on the review/testing part, I though it would still be worth letting you guys about it as well10:10
seb128+know10:10
infinityseb128: *nod*... That would end up having to be a 0-day security update if we didn't get it in the release pocket, IMO, so if it's sanely tested to both fix the bug and not regress, let's do it.10:10
seb128k10:11
seb128infinity, thanks10:11
infinityseb128: So, wgrant also managed to invoke the dash via a gesture yesterday.  Does this fix that too?10:12
infinity(We're not entirely sure *how* he did that)10:12
seb128infinity, yes, that desactivate all gestures10:12
seb128infinity, dash is "tap with 4 fingers" iirc10:12
infinityExcellent.10:12
wgrantI have a photo, but I cannot reproduce it the dash thing no matter how hard I try.10:13
seb128wgrant, if you have a multitouch pad/screen tap with 4 fingers?10:13
wgrantseb128: A double tap invokes the switcher, but I haven't managed to invoke the dash except when I was cleaning my screen yesterday10:14
wgrantBut I guess disabling all gestures will fix that :)10:14
seb128wgrant, did you try to put 4 fingers at the same time on the screen?10:15
seb128wgrant, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Multitouch#Supported_Gestures10:15
wgrantseb128: It works as expected when unlocked (four finger tap == dash, four finger double tap == app switcher). The second one always works on the lockscreen, but the first one I've only managed to do once, and only accidentally.10:17
seb128k10:17
seb128well anyway, let's land that fix and see if there are still issues remaining10:17
seb128it's a step in the right direction in any case ;-)10:18
wgrantHm10:18
wgrantI think I just invoked the dash under the lockscreen, but it at least wasn't visible.10:18
infinityseb128: Is the fix for this only in unity?  (just checking seeds to see what I need to hold off respinning)10:19
seb128infinity, yes10:19
infinityCertainly looks like it from the diff.10:19
infinityKay.10:19
infinitySo, I'll respin the world minus kylin/edubuntu/ubuntu soon.10:19
infinityAnd then those three after you land your unity.10:19
cjwatsonWhatever the parted thing above is is probably going to be a respin-world.10:20
infinitycjwatson: Whee!10:20
infinitycjwatson: This means I still have time for a last-minute "support ccTLD.ports" attempt, right? :P10:20
infinity(Yes, we completely forgot to get to that... *sigh*)10:20
cjwatsonThat's complicated ...10:20
infinityYeah, I know.  I think we should line it up for dot-1.10:21
infinityJust a shame we kinda didn't get to it for release.10:21
cjwatson.1 would allow more testing time, yeah ...10:21
cjwatsoninfinity: OK, I think I can squeeze in this parted fix for you as well10:43
cjwatsonIt's basically http://paste.ubuntu.com/7249046/10:44
cjwatsonPreparing an upload to unstable, but I think I'll do a separate upload to trusty rather than waiting for it to be syncable10:45
cjwatsonTurned out to be easily reproducible by just running "print 1" since I'm on a UEFI system and /dev/sda1 is an EFI System Partition (i.e. FAT).10:47
cjwatsonIn parted that is.10:47
infinitycjwatson: Awesome.  Thanks.10:52
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cjwatsoninfinity: ^- OK, parted and openssh should both go into a respin, I think.11:52
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infinitycjwatson: Kay.  I have a mono I'm about upload, if you'd like to "review" it with some serious airquotes.12:06
cjwatsonOK.  Need to go for lunch RSN though12:06
infinitycjwatson: In the queue now.12:06
cjwatsonxorg-server probably wants a look from somebody ...12:09
infinitycjwatson: Man, that's a noisy diff. :/12:09
infinity(ssh)12:09
cjwatsonYeah, sorry, Matthew had done a previous git-dpm thing with a different git version, apparently12:10
infinitycjwatson: The reformatting of diffstat is weird.12:10
cjwatsonRight, different git version12:10
cjwatsonMatthew doesn't touch openssh often so it shouldn't happen much :)12:11
cjwatsoninfinity: so, uh, yeah, "review" as you say12:13
cjwatsoninfinity: have we done any testing of this on other architectures, and if so which ones?  It's a bit hard to see what it might affect12:13
cjwatsonActually I guess it's obviously just powerpc isn't it12:14
cjwatsonBut do we know it still works there?12:14
infinitycjwatson: Oh, I didn't test ppc32, let me quickly spin that up.12:14
cjwatsonYeah, looking at this I think that'd be a good idea.12:15
cjwatsonBut if it works there we're probably good.12:15
infinitycjwatson: Well, it'll "work", the key is no test regressions. :P12:17
infinity(Because mono ignores his testsuite)12:17
cjwatsonYes, I meant work not build :P12:17
jibelinfinity, I'm disabling trusty daily from the tracker.12:18
infinityjibel: go nuts.12:19
seb128can we get unity-settings-daemon in as well if we respin for the other stuff recently approved?12:36
qenghoHi all. I have a new chromium-browser release that I would like in 14.04 in addition to my security updates to past releases. It fixes several CVEs.  I have it in my security-release staging PPA, https://launchpad.net/~canonical-chromium-builds/+archive/stage  .  What are the chances I can get it into 14.04?12:43
qenghoIt's in universe, btw.12:44
infinityqengho: How tested is it?12:57
infinityqengho: It's in mythbuntu and ubuntukylin, so being in universe doesn't mean much.  We still need to make sure it's not going to regress anything last-minute.12:58
knomehey, we need an ACK for bug 130748512:59
ubot2Launchpad bug 1307485 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Drop gnome-bluetooth to suggests (regression)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130748512:59
knomeubuntu studio has acked it's ok as well, but for completeness, i'm asking them to ack on the bug as well (but don't know when they'll get it)12:59
knome*get to it12:59
knomexub, studio, and myth are the three that are affected13:00
stgraberinfinity: I'll just remove it from the blog post, it was a temporary thing until we had cgmanager, which we now do13:00
infinityknome: I thought we should JFDI, IMO.13:01
infinityknome: When did this regress, do you know?13:01
knomeinfinity, no idea... but we bumped into it when we tried to remove ibus from our seed and noticed it wasn't removed...13:03
knomecyphermox has been on it, but if you have the time/motivation, feel free to do the change and upload13:04
infinitycyphermox should be around shortly, I'll let him do it if he's on the case.13:05
knomecheers13:05
knomeand that should be the last thing we need from the release team unless we magically find a solution to another bug13:05
knomethanks!13:05
infinityWhat's the "other bug" on your radar?13:05
knomebug 125933913:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 1259339 in xfce4-power-manager "Xfce4 Power Manager does not restore screen power" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/125933913:06
knomeit's not even triaged yet, which is why it looks unrealistic to come up with a fix...13:06
infinityknome: Oh, hardly a new bug.13:07
knomeyep, that too13:07
infinityknome: So, not release critical, though would be great to see an SRU to both 12.04 and 14.04 when you figure it out.13:07
knomeabsolutely13:07
knomeother than that, we have had all of our 14.04-targeted bugs fixed \o/13:07
knomehttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xubuntu-t-bugs13:08
infinityknome: You either didn't have enough bugs, or you guys are machines.13:08
infinityknome: Either way, congrats.13:08
cjwatsoninfinity: Ah, did mono/powerpc break?13:08
infinitycjwatson: Spectacularly.13:08
cjwatsonAh yes, I see ...13:08
cjwatsonGlad I asked :)13:09
knomewe did have bugs, and we still have... but yeah, using a whip on the developers help on getting thinngs done O:)13:09
infinitycjwatson: Might just need a bit more ifdeffery, but don't really have the time to look right now.13:09
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stgraberinfinity: so I'm looking at the tracker config. Whoever set it up made a tiny mistake. The daily milestone must stay active until after release.13:11
cjwatsondidrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/colord-gtk/+bug/1282372 - colord-gtk is currently on the list to move (back) to universe.  Did the reverse-dependency in question never happen, or get reverted, or something?13:11
ubot2Launchpad bug 1282372 in colord-gtk (Ubuntu) "[MIR] colord-gtk" [Undecided,Fix released]13:11
stgraberinfinity: everything must be done against Trusty Daily and things will just get picked up by Trusty Final if it's on the manifest13:11
infinitystgraber: jibel disabled it.  Go ahead and reenable.13:11
seb128cjwatson, didrocks: the new panel codebase ended up having other issues and we decided to delay the update to next cycle13:11
seb128cjwatson, didrocks: it can be demoted13:12
jibelstgraber, sorry.13:12
didrocksseb128: hum, so the "we'll seed it soon" was forgot to mention it needs demotion I guess13:12
didrocksok, demoting now13:12
cjwatsonthanks13:12
didrocks(and reopening the bug)13:12
cjwatsonIt can sit as Fix Committed or whatever, I guess.13:13
stgraberjibel: np, it's not entirely obvious :)13:13
didrocksyep13:13
seb128didrocks, sorry about that, miscommunication with robert_ancell I guess (those happen with the little of tz overlap we get)13:13
seb128didrocks, cjwatson: thanks13:13
didrocksno worry!13:13
cjwatsonnot a problem, indeed, just trying to clean up the last bits of archive cruft13:16
infinityslangasek: Have you given up on the hope of understanding the icedtea-web business?13:16
infinityqengho: ?13:17
stgraberjust uploaded a last minute LTSP, community members reported (on IRC...) a bunch of problems when booting with some realtek cards that take a while to initialize...13:28
stgraberthis cherry-pick all the current pending commits upstream which makes LTSP in 14.04 match with that distributed by some of the other upstream people in their PPA (and is used in hundred of schools at the moment)13:29
stgraber(pending as in, commited a while back but never released as vagrantc has been busy with other things lately)13:29
Laneylibreoffice/autopkgtest is not having a good time13:32
LaneyI'll skip it to get mesa in13:34
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qenghoinfinity: sorry, have returned. I've had several testers. There's one regression I know of, in that the new internal toolkit that all of chromium is switching to in this version or next does not support the API that Flash players (et c) use. It dies now or in a few weeks, either way.13:40
qenghostgraber: you tried my proposed chromium, yes?  Any complaints lately?13:41
infinityqengho: Right, probably better to ship with the new API.  Does that require other archive changes too?13:41
tkamppeterI have a problem with bug 1306344. One could solve it by installing the hplip-gui binary package. Could we ship Trusty with this package? Or do we still have the problem that dependencies make Trusty too big then?13:41
ubot2Launchpad bug 1306344 in hplip (Ubuntu) "hp-setup crashes when adding new printer because hp-sendfax is not found" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130634413:41
qenghoinfinity: If I understand you, no. I now Recommend something in multiverse to get Flash functionality back, but I don't think it affects anything.13:44
qenghotkamppeter tested the chromium too, for its touch support, which isn't perfect. Till, have any objection to that chromium you tried Thursday from going in 14.04?13:46
* qengho will just poll names of people he sees scroll by who tested.13:46
infinityqengho: Right, well, if this chromium effectively breaks the world in ways that we'd be breaking it in the first security update, I think we're actually better off being broken from day 1.13:49
infinityFor some value of "broken".13:49
infinitySo people don't install plugins on 14.04 that work for a week and then stop.13:49
infinityOr whatever.13:50
tkamppeterqengho, the freezing of Chromium's main area by touching the tabs is a major problem, as users have to kill and restart the browser (especially if they are in the middle of a shopping/banking/registration transaction).13:53
tkamppeterqengho, as it works with mouse as long as one never touches the tabs on the touchscreen we would at least need a very quick SRU.13:55
Trevinhohi, I've discovered a regression that went in the last unity upload (due to a merge error that deleted a change), since we're doing a new landing in unity for a security fix, can we put this change back in?13:55
Trevinhohttps://code.launchpad.net/~3v1n0/unity/alpha-windows-shadows-fix/+merge/21567413:55
Trevinhounity13:57
stgraberinfinity: got a sec to look at that last minute LTSP upload? my plan here is to get that in, then respin Edubuntu and test the hell out of LTSP (and instruct folks in #ltsp to do the same), so hopefully we won't need any more last minute changes there...13:59
TrevinhoLaney: ^13:59
infinityTrevinho: Yeah, I think that's fine to land with the other unity fix.13:59
stgraberinfinity: (I got pinged about old realtek not working this morning, wishing people would test that stuff a bit before release wekk...)13:59
Trevinhoinfinity: thanks13:59
LaneyGet it added to the silo13:59
infinityTrevinho: Speaking of shadows (and I don't expect this fixed for release), has anyone had any opinions on my "shadows shouldn't cross workspace borders" bug?13:59
infinitystgraber: edubuntu needs respins for the pending unity anyway, but yeah, you can always spin it twice to get earlier testing it.14:00
Trevinhoinfinity: I think I didn't see it, but yeah, indeed they should not14:00
infinitystgraber: I'll poke the upload.14:00
infinityTrevinho: I'd love to see that fixed in 14.10 and SRUed back to 14.04. ;)14:00
* infinity looks for the ref.14:01
infinityTrevinho: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/129974114:01
ubot2Launchpad bug 1299741 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Shadows shouldn't wrap around to other workspaces" [Undecided,New]14:01
Trevinhoinfinity: SRUs will be very juicy I think14:01
infinityTrevinho: Not sure if it's compiz or unity, was a shot in the dark on the filing. :P14:01
Trevinhoinfinity: it's unity, that's wjy I didn't see it :)14:01
Trevinhoinfinity: this is another small community contribuition that might be nice to land now (as it's small and we've the silo ready) https://code.launchpad.net/~sjakthol/unity/fix-1288789/+merge/21540314:08
infinityTrevinho: Looks obvious and sane, do it.14:09
Trevinhoinfinity: thank you14:09
infinityTrevinho: But also please land things soon, don't dig for too many bugs to pile on. ;)14:09
Trevinhoinfinity: well, I've not control on silos, so I can't define when releasing things...14:11
Trevinhoinfinity: these fixes were noticed/proposed after FF, then... things might pile now a little14:11
zulcan someone reject glance rc2 as well please?14:17
stgraberinfinity: thanks!14:18
tkamppeterAnyone can help me on the hplip-gui problem which I mentioned earlier here?14:24
Laneytkamppeter: It seems to bring qt4 things and gksu, so I don't think so14:25
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tkamppeterLaney, or should I do an SRU which pulls in hplip-gui, so that people get it with the first update?14:32
tkamppeterLaney, other solution would be to move over hp-setup into hplip-gui, so that it is not included in the Qt4-standard installation.14:33
stgrabercgmanager probably ought to go in the release if we care about clean shutdowns (which we usually do).14:55
stgraberlxc could technically be a 0day SRU (fixes the case where apt does two upgrade chunks and upgrades lxc ahead of apparmor, crashing on the postinst) but it's tiny, should be obviously correct and doesn't take long to build, so I'd feel better if we'd just take it14:56
tkamppeterLaney, what about moving over hp-setup into hplip-gui, so that it is not included in the Qt4-less-standard installation?15:02
xnoxtkamppeter: 14.04 is shipping with qt4 installaed by default desktop.15:03
LaneyIt's not any qt4, but it does pull in more stuff15:03
xnoxok.15:03
zulLaney:  can you reject glance rc2 for me please?15:03
Laneytkamppeter: If -setup isn't usable without -sendfax then that probably makes sense15:03
tkamppeterxnox, does it mean that if I let it pull in hplip-gui there is only hplip-gui added and nothing more?15:03
xnoxtkamppeter: check.15:04
Laneyzul: ok15:04
xnoxtkamppeter: boot livecd install it and see what deps are pulled in.15:04
Laneygksudo is in there :-)15:04
slangasekinfinity: I hadn't given up hope of understanding, just had a busy weekend.  Shall I look at it this morning?15:06
infinityslangasek: Please do. :)15:06
infinityslangasek: (Or farm it out, but I know you had some context earlier)15:06
tkamppeterLaney, gksudo dependency can be removed, as according to upstream release notes not meeded any more from 3.13.10 on.15:07
zulLaney:  do you mind accepting glance please it fixes a couple of regressions (#1307518) and (#1302044)15:10
xnoxinfinity: can we sneak in 3.15-rc1 into trusty? it has wifi driver for my laptop so i don't need to compile it with dkms any more.15:30
cjwatsonhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7250262/ <- result of "germinate --no-rdepends -s ubuntu.trusty -d trusty -a i386 -c main,restricted,universe,multiverse --seed-packages=desktop/hplip-gui && cat hplip-gui" (do this in a scratch directory as it'll create lots of files)15:31
cjwatsoni.e. "please tell me what hplip-gui adds over and above what's already in desktop"15:31
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infinityxnox: Sure!15:32
Laneytkamppeter: Yeah, it's not just that (see ^) - your other solution might be workable; I'd investigate that15:35
LaneyDo we have some way of installing hplip-gui on demand?15:36
Laneyzul: in a minute15:41
tkamppeterLaney, I am currentrly downloading the beta to try it in a VM, so I can see what it will pull.15:42
Laneytkamppeter: cjwatson just pastebinned that15:42
xnoxcjwatson: hm, whilst that's awsome that does show that ubuntu-sso-client-qt did not get back on to the cds but we need it to keep a few things functional in software-center15:43
xnox(e.g. commenting, buying, oneconf, etc.)15:43
xnoxlooks like it's only suggested by ubuntu-sso-client.15:44
xnoxi think i'll upload software-center with a depends added.15:44
tkamppeterLaney, have found cjwatsons paste now, 16 MB of extra packages on ISO and 60 MB of extra disk occupation in the system.15:45
tkamppeterLaney, load of gksu is negligible, libqtwebkit4 makes one half.15:47
tkamppeterLaney, so I will look into moving over hp-setup to hplip-gui. Should I do this as SRU?15:48
utlemmingstgraber: can we rename the 'SA-East-1' products in the tracker? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7250330/15:48
tkamppetercjwatson, thanks for the investigation.15:48
xnoxinfinity: software-center fix is ^ that should unbreak commenting, oneconf and purchasing features of software-center.15:48
xnox(it could go in as an SRU)15:48
utlemmingstrgraber: we have a mismatch between products15:49
utlemmingstgraber: oh wait, I can do it :)15:49
Laneytkamppeter: Probably15:50
LaneyThis depends xnox just added puts most of that qt4 stuff back though15:51
xnoxLaney: yeah, looking over cjwatson's output it seemed odd. as ubuntu-sso-client-gui was not pulled back onto the cd for software center.15:53
cjwatsonstgraber: Was ltsp-client's recommendation of zram-config intentionally dropped?15:53
cjwatson(to Suggests)15:54
cjwatsonIt's in component-mismatches15:54
stgrabercjwatson: yes15:58
Laneywhy was software-center rejected?16:04
seb128qengho, Laney: ^16:11
Laneyty16:11
seb128yw!16:12
infinityThose are very odd package versions.16:12
infinityWhy do I get the feeling that a lot of people don't actually know what "~" means?16:13
xnoxinfinity: please seed ubuntuone-client-data and ubuntu-sso-client-qt into main?16:13
LaneyIf only you could see the rejection reasons.16:14
xnoxLaney: some rejects are awesome! [ubuntu/trusty-proposed] software-center 13.10-0ubuntu5 (Rejected) Rejected by Adam Conrad: DIE DIE DIE16:17
LaneyI get that you're chatting in person, but not all of us are there16:18
xnoxLaney: not really much, i'm too loud so nobody talks to me =(16:19
qenghoinfinity: yeah, sorry. Building huge packages on some wimpy archs takes a long time, so I made the PPA copyable, so there's no lag between testing and deployment. I don't know if any test is the final, and I don't know if I'll have a regular upload later, thus the ~pkgNNN.16:20
qenghoARMHF would take 100 hours not long ago. When upstream releases about every 12 days, that's a long time.16:21
utlemmingstgraber (or another admin for the tracker): it looks like we're missing some EC2 products, can you add them: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7250483/16:21
stgraberutlemming: I'll look into it16:22
utlemmingstgraber: thanks16:22
stgraberutlemming: so is "Ubuntu Server EC2 HVM (Asia-Pacific-SouthEast-Australia) amd64" different from "Ubuntu Server EC2 HVM (Asia-Pacific-SouthEast) amd64"?16:24
utlemmingstgraber: I just fixed that one....it looks like we have "Pacfic" instead of "Pacific"16:25
infinitystgraber: That systemd upload sure looks like an upstart bug/misfeature.16:25
stgraberinfinity: agreed, it'd be nice to be able to tell upstart that failure to set a limit isn't fatal for the job16:25
infinityTrevinho: How goes that unity?16:27
infinityseb128: ^16:27
seb128infinity, dbus is acting up sometime on ppc64el and making test fail, build had to be retried and is still running16:28
LaneyJust built on ppc64el16:28
seb128oh, great16:28
seb128infinity, should be ready for copy to the archive once published them16:28
xnoxcjwatson: infinity: signed wubi at http://people.canonical.com/~xnox/wubi/trusty/wubi-r286-trusty-signed.exe please place binary in http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/wubi/trusty/ and update stable symlink there.16:28
infinity"acting up"?  Anyone have a log of that?16:28
seb128but I'm about to call it a day, so bregma is handling that16:28
infinityxnox: Ack.16:29
seb128infinity, no, the retry cleared the log, it looks like dbus stops working from the log16:29
seb128Trevinho might have details16:30
LaneyIs a universe to multiverse recommends alright?16:31
infinityLaney: Recommends should usually be self-contained in components, IMO.16:31
infinityLaney: (Which is why we enforce this between main and universe)16:32
infinityLaney: Because recommends are installed by default, the behaviour shouldn't change if you turn components off and on.16:32
LaneyI was thinking about it from a freeness angle16:33
xnoxinfinity: ^ refreshed meta for ubuntu-sso-client-qt.16:33
LaneyTo be concrete, new chromium has a Recommends on pepperflashplugin-nonfree.16:33
cjwatsonwgrant: bug 1275270 - would doing this break LP deployments (eventually)?  That's the main reason I hadn't been removing this one16:33
ubot2Launchpad bug 1275270 in bzr-pqm (Ubuntu) "Please remove bzr-pqm binary and source package from Ubuntu trusty" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/127527016:33
infinityLaney: From a freeness angle, it's also not ideal, but the self-containment thing is what's important.16:33
infinityLaney: And I so didn't review the packaging diff before accepting it.16:34
LaneyThat was all I was reviewing. :)16:34
LaneyBoth things are important to me16:36
* xnox is doing pysendfile support -> dh_python2 conversion16:37
Laneyqengho: what if I upload to get rid of that recommends?16:37
* cjwatson re-promotes the ubuntu-sso stuff16:37
wgrantcjwatson: It'll immediately prevent anyone from landing any change to Launchpad or Bazaar16:37
cjwatsonxnox: could you upload ubuntu-meta to sync it up with that once this override change is visible?16:38
infinitycjwatson: I already did.16:38
Trevinhoinfinity: I guess bregma will be soon about to hit the release button16:38
wgrantAh, and indeed the bug lists those two.16:38
infinitycjwatson: Did you just double-override?16:38
cjwatsonah ok16:38
Trevinhoinfinity: I think he's about to test the ppa16:38
wgrantHm16:38
cjwatsoninfinity: I think I Ctrl-c'ed in time16:38
infinitycjwatson: I also did some demotions in this cycle.16:38
qenghoLaney: I don't have a big complaint. I dislike it too.16:38
wgrantcjwatson: Probably sane to kill it from trusty, though16:38
cjwatsonwgrant: I'm confused about how both those statements can hold16:39
Laneyqengho: I hope something useful happens if you visit a flash page without it installed16:39
wgrantcjwatson: Not enough people land changes to Bazaar or Launchpad to justify having it in trusty for the next half decade.16:39
wgrantIMO16:39
Laney(Thought it should already, given that recommends can be removed)16:39
cjwatsonOh, I see what you mean.  Yes, mostly I was checking that it was only client-side16:39
wgrantBut I don't really care either way.16:39
wgrantI believe that's just the client plugin, yeah16:40
qenghoLaney: I'm proud of this: The plugin-not-found pop-up sends users to a wiki.ubuntu.com page, instead of Adobe now.16:40
cjwatsonWe can obviously just keep it installed locally16:40
Laneyqengho: Nice16:40
cjwatsonAnd direct people to binaries in saucy or whatever16:40
wgrantYeah16:41
infinityqengho: If the flash-not-found page can instruct people that they need pepperthing-flash from multiverse, that would be much better than a recommends which won't work if people don't have multiverse on.16:41
infinityqengho: (Also, that recommends won't work on flavours where multiverse isn't on during the build)16:42
cjwatsonwgrant: is gone16:42
wgrantcjwatson: :)16:42
* Laney gets ENOSPC when unpacking chromium16:42
Laneystab stabby stab16:43
qenghoinfinity: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash16:43
qenghoLaney: big source.  :(16:43
Laneybig source, small ssd16:43
xnoxinfinity: pysendfile should resolve pulling python-support into main by virtue of mir #126755716:43
xnoxbug #126755716:43
ubot2Launchpad bug 1267557 in heat (Ubuntu) "[MIR] heat" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126755716:43
infinityqengho: Downgrading that recommends to a suggest gives you a chance to also make the package version -0ubuntu1 :)16:44
infinityqengho: (So, yes, please do that, and if the wiki page isn't quite ideal, update it to be better)16:44
infinityLaney: Or if you want to take care of that short change.16:45
LaneyI'm doing it16:45
LaneyWoah it's doing some checksum verification thing while building the source package16:45
utlemmingrealizing we're all working for 14.04's release -- do we have an EOL date for 12.10? It shows as being supported throught this month, but I don't see an EOL announcement16:45
* Laney swears more and sets TMPDIR16:46
* Laney discovers something lintian-ish doesn't respect that16:47
xnoxinfinity: http://lwn.net/Articles/583238/16:49
qenghoLaney: Of checksum, I didn't want my uploading machine to the the weakest point when the NSA goes looking for a way into user's systems.16:50
rickspencer3omg17:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, app start up on my phone17:14
rickspencer3soooo much better17:14
cjwatsonyay17:16
rickspencer3(oops, meant to do that in #ubuntu-touch, nice that cjwtson is here too :) )17:18
apwthat xen package brings initial packaging for arm64 hypervisor, as requested17:22
ogra_rickspencer3, well, app shutdown just got worse ...17:22
ogra_(which has quite some impact for apps restarting in the background)17:22
rickspencer3ogra_, ok, noted17:23
infinityLaney: Thanks for the chromium.17:24
infinityLaney: Can you make sure that ends up in qengho's packaging branch so it doesn't regress in security updates?17:24
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infinitycjwatson: We totally double-overrode ubuntuone-client-data17:38
infinitycjwatson: Copying it back in...17:38
jamespageI'm assuming someone from the release team would need to ack switching the default IPSec vpn daemon stack from ipsec to strongswan this close to release?17:46
jamespagecontext bug 126606617:46
ubot2Launchpad bug 1266066 in unbound (Ubuntu) "[MIR] strongSwan" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/126606617:46
infinityjamespage: So, on a scale of one to "ha ha ha"...17:47
jamespageI was asked todo look at the seed changes, and although I agree it probably puts us in a better place that with ipsec-tools it feels to late....17:47
jamespageinfinity, quite17:48
xnoxjamespage: so i requested 3.15-rc1 to sneak in, i think ipsec change should go only after that lands to make sure it doesn't regress.17:48
xnox=)))))17:48
jamespagexnox, read ipsec == ipsec-tools - my mistake17:49
xnoxjamespage: i'm EOD, so i'm just trolling now =))))17:50
jamespagexnox, I'm trying to eod - not succeeding right now :-(17:50
mdeslaurdoes this help with the ipsec-tools/strongswan decision? https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/04/msg00075.html17:50
infinityjamespage: So, the MIR just seems to be about seeing these in supported (or maybe ship?)17:50
infinityjamespage: I don't see anything about switching the way things are integrated or function out of the box.17:50
infinityjamespage: Or am I not reading between enough lines?17:51
jamespageinfinity, part of the change is to drop ipsec-tools and racoon from the supported/ship seeds17:51
jamespagethe security team understandably only want a single IPsec vpn toolset in main17:51
jdstrandand one that has received upstream updates  within 3 years17:51
jdstrand(ipsec-tools has not)17:52
jdstrandthat said, we aren't really pursuing the strongswan mir, our position is that since it is well supported upstream and withing Debian/Ubuntu and if it is going to main, lets stop supporting ipsec-tools17:52
infinityjamespage: So, racoon is in because it's a dependency of openvswitch-ipsec...17:53
mdeslauroh, forgot about that dep...so raccoon stays17:53
jamespageinfinity, pushing that to universe was discussed but I was uncomfortable about that as well17:54
jdstrandwell17:54
jdstrandopenvswitch-ipsec is a single python script17:54
jdstrandit could be moved to universe17:54
jdstrandand that portion of the testsuite disabled17:54
infinityYeah, openvswitch-ipsec depends on ipsec-tools too.17:54
infinitySo... If the security team really wants this to happen, that little bit needs to be fixed.17:55
jdstrandbut jamespage mentioned upstream openvswitch doesn't have a strongswan substitute17:55
infinityOtherwise, this is just trading some packages in server-ship, which isn't a big deal.  It's not like 'ship' defines default installation behaviours or anything.17:55
jamespageindeed not17:55
jpdsinfinity: cjwatson said that he was moving openvswitch-ipsec to universe.17:56
infinityjpds: Well, it would need to be unseeded first.17:57
jdstrandhe probably did, but it was possible he didn't notice the testsuite would likely ftbfs the package if it wasn't modified17:57
infinityjdstrand / jamespage: So, if you guys can sort out what needs fixing to make openvswitch appropriately crippled and/or happy, I don't much care if you swap packages in and out of server-ship.17:58
dokoinfinity, looking at wxmaxima ... maxima itself was never built on arm64 and ppc64el18:00
infinitydoko: Need gcl bootstrapped.  I was looking at that.18:00
infinitydoko: If I run out of time for that, I'll just force it in.18:00
infinitydoko: Can you fix gnat/ppc though?18:01
dokoohh, yes. will try tonight18:01
jdstrandjamespage: so, I think it is clear what our perspective is. I'll take a look at openvswitch-ipsec going to universe18:03
jdstrandjamespage: (our being the security team's and jpds' perspective)18:04
jamespagejdstrand, ok18:04
jdstrandjamespage: if you'd like, I can toss in writing the release note :)18:04
jamespagejdstrand, yes please18:04
jamespagejdstrand, I think openvswitch is OK - it does not BD on either of ipsec-tools|racoon18:05
infinityzul: Dude.  Your heat upload attempts to chmod /etc/nova instead of /etc/heat.18:05
jamespageso it probably is just a binary demotion18:05
jdstrandjamespage: ok, so you handle the strongswan promotion and I'll handle the ipsec-tools demotion (openvswitch, release note, seed)18:05
jamespagejdstrand, ack18:05
infinityzul: Furthermore, even if that was correct, it would still be the wrong order, as you mkdir /etc/heat in the next line.18:05
jpdsjamespage / jdstrand: Thank you.18:05
infinityzul: Also, why aren't you shipping those directories in the package instead of creating them in maintainer scripts?18:05
jdstrandjamespage: thanks18:06
knomebdmurray, can you be a bit more elaborate with comment on bug 1155167? do you want the log from when the dialog is shown, or after the system is installed?18:06
ubot2Launchpad bug 1155167 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from image prompts creating a new user" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115516718:06
infinityzul:18:08
infinity+chmod 0750 /var/log/heat /etc/heat18:08
infinity mkdir -p /etc/heat18:08
infinityzul: That makes no sense.18:08
xnoxzul: hm.... i fixed pysendfiles to use dh-python instead of python-support thus you should not have dropped the dependency.18:08
xnoxzul: as soon as i saw a components missmatches notification.18:08
argesHi. Why is the upload for bug 1294163 in the 'New' queue instead of 'Unapproved'? looks/smells like an SRU...18:09
ubot2Launchpad bug 1294163 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-331-updates (Ubuntu Precise) "Please update precise nvidia drivers to support 3.13 trusty backport kernel" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/129416318:09
infinityzul: 1) Punch baby in face.  2) Deliver baby.  3) Concieve child.  4) Have sex.18:09
infinityzul: You may be doing this in the wrong order.18:09
bdmurrayknome: when the system installing is fine, it'd be /var/log/syslog. running ubiquity in debug mode would be great.18:09
knomebdmurray, how does one run ubiquity in debug mode?18:10
bdmurrayubiquity -d I believe18:10
knomeokay, we'll get that done today18:10
elfyknome bdmurray - I'll do that shortly18:11
infinitybregma: I can haz unity?18:18
wgrantxnox: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~wgrant/_sbin_init.1000.crash18:25
bregmainfinity, the Unity silo is migrating18:27
infinitybregma: I see it in the queue, yeah.  Reviewing now.18:28
elfybdmurray: do you want the logs attached to bug 1155167 while I'm still in the live session - or boot it up and then attach them?18:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1155167 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Upgrade from image prompts creating a new user" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/115516718:37
bdmurrayelfy: in the live session should be fine18:41
elfyok18:42
elfybdmurray knome - debug and syslog attached now18:44
elfybdmurray: if that's not what you need or want - let me know and I'll run through it again18:45
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xnoxemacs-goodies-el & bbdb are the last two things holding emacs23 in main, gettext-el already prefers emacs24.18:58
bregmainfinity, unity 7.2.0+14.04.20140414.1-0ubuntu1 is ready eager and willing now19:21
infinitybregma: The one that I accepted an hour ago?  I should hope so.19:22
jamespageinfinity, the seed changes have been made for the ipsec-tools/strongswan switch we where discussing earlier19:31
jamespageonly impacts server iso19:31
infinityjamespage: Alright.  What about jdstrand's concern for testsuites blowing up?19:33
jamespageinfinity, the testsuite does not blow up19:33
jamespageI suspect good mocking19:33
Laneyqengho: please could you put that change in your packaging branch?19:35
Laneyinfinity: ☑19:35
qenghoLaney: I did it before you did.  :)19:39
Laneyyou beaut19:40
jdstrandre openvswitch testsuite-- yeah, I confirmed it does not19:49
cjwatsoninfinity: Oops.  Thanks19:53
infinitystgraber: Hey.  Still missing mythbuntu from the manifest.  Can you fix that?19:54
stgraberinfinity: sure19:55
stgraberdone19:56
jpdsjamespage: Do you still have a push pending for seeds?19:57
infinitystgraber: Danke.19:57
infinitySo, I'm not entirely sure why openvswitch-ipsec wants to stay in main...19:58
infinityNothing seems to depend on it.19:58
infinityAnd it's not seeded...19:58
jdstrandinfinity: it is in supported-misc-servers19:58
jdstrandin platform.trusty19:58
cjwatsoninfinity: It's also not in main.19:58
infinityIt's really not.19:58
cjwatson openvswitch-ipsec | 2.0.1+git20140120-0ubuntu2 | trusty/universe           | amd64, arm64, armhf, i386, powerpc, ppc64el19:58
jdstrandI'm there now and will take care of it19:58
infinityFilename: pool/main/o/openvswitch/openvswitch-ipsec_2.0.1+git20140120-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb19:59
cjwatsonI demoted it earlier today19:59
jdstrandoh wait19:59
infinityOh.19:59
infinityKay, my apt cache is out of date.19:59
infinityCheck.19:59
jdstrandcjwatson: you demoted that earlier, I assume?19:59
infinityOkay, going to do the strongswan promotions unless someone else is double-overriding right now. :P19:59
jdstrandinfinity: I just did them19:59
infinityRight, I won't touch it. :P20:00
infinityAnd full world rebuild is go.20:00
infinityserver should happen late enough to pick up your changes.20:00
jdstrandk, cause I am still doing ldns and the other one in the bug20:00
jdstrandbut I'll be done soon20:00
dokopreparing an apport upload, speeding up python interpreter startup time by 50% ...20:05
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infinitydoko: Lovely.  I just started a respin of the world, but we'll almost certainly let that in for the next forced respin (which seems pretty likely, since it's only Monday)20:17
balloonsbuilds finally trickling in!20:32
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balloonsinfinity, can we get upgrades added to the final milestone? it shouldn't be depending on a build21:57
stgraberdone21:59
* knome bows21:59
balloonsty ty22:01
infinity(no one demote host, I just did)22:07
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cmarshi there, would it be too late to accept an upload of hockeypuck 1.0 into trusty universe (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/hockeypuck)?22:36
cmars0.9 was in raring, but that's horribly out of date. 1.0 supports recon with SKS22:38
infinitycmars: Not too late, no.  Go for it.22:39
cmars:)22:40
robruhmmm, can somebody accept platform-api and mir? they should be under the phone FFe but for some reason queuebot only accepted unity-system-compositor and unity-mir22:54
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cjwatsonrobru: hm, ok - done23:24
robrucjwatson, thanks!23:29
cjwatsonhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/172827848/buildlog_ubuntu-trusty-arm64.mir_0.1.8%2B14.04.20140411-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz  boo, so close23:44
cjwatsonmust've missed that23:44

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