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Guest30661will check screensaver settings. also used to have screen saver issue. but screenlocker 14.04 fixed that issue00:00
skribblezatchawell thats cool. yeah if you use the screenlocker, then that means when it goes to sleep the screen locks too.00:01
skribblezatchaso it kinda defeats the purpose if you want to tap a mouse and be back to where you were and still be connected to the net.00:02
skribblezatchai usually shut off the screen locker as well..but thats me.00:02
Guest30661i just want to be able to hibernate. it works with terminal only it seems00:05
skribblezatchai see, thats odd.00:10
skribblezatchawell go ahead and turn off those things and see if that works for you Guest30661. you can also check out the screen locker too.00:10
skribblezatchasee what works for you man.00:11
Guest30661well. i have everything disabled. so i dont get lock screens,screensavers etc00:12
skribblezatchaok and you went and set everything to hibernate and all of that?00:14
Guest30661I just want to be able to set hibernation manually00:17
Guest30661Like. it's not in my action button section. when i put it in.. it's shaded out00:18
Guest30661suspend is in it. but that always seems to cause problems. it's not a huge deal. I have an SSD and reboot shutdown takes seconds00:18
Guest30661when i used to use gnome 3. when i pressed my power button it would hibernate00:19
skribblezatchao ok, i see what you mean. you dont need it to hibernate once you arent typing for a while? you want the power button to cause it to do that.00:20
skribblezatchayeah i cant do that either. i havent been able to do that in a long time. lol00:20
Guest30661yeah scribblez00:21
Guest30661i did this one command with gedit. that is mean tto make it work. but no outcome at all with it00:21
skribblezatchayeah, i dont know about that one. thats all you messing around playing with settings, or trying to find a script that can get you that function.00:22
skribblezatcharight right..i feel you.00:22
skribblezatchabrb man.00:22
skribblezatchaok back..thanks.00:28
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xubuntu990hello. i have a problem. after installing xubuntu (or other linux) when i reboot my computer i see a screen in which i can get to bios a then black screen appears. if i want to get to system i must do ctrl alt delete, esc, ctrl-f1 then write sudo lghtm stop/start and them ctrl-f7. can you help me?  asus eee 1201ha06:16
xubuntu990and i must do lghtm start/stop because bottom half of my screen is black06:18
Mosconima che oooooooh07:45
Mosconima è possibile?!?07:45
`Fibz?07:54
mapp?07:54
`Fibzdelayed reaction07:54
freeman__hi guys how I can optimize my prop. nvidia driver on Lenovo T510 that I can control the brightness level? It does not work here in Xubuntu when I try to change the brightness08:07
xubuntu403What is the downside of Xubuntu 12.04 LTS compared to ubuntu 12.04 LTS?08:38
junkawhat do u mean xubuntu40308:39
`Fibzit's not as "pretty"?08:41
xubuntu403I am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS and find there are some unsolved problems with older machines. Xubuntu seems to not have these problems. I would like opinions about the relative merits of both systems, especially the downside so I will know what to expect, at least as an over-view before I decide on Xubuntu.08:43
junkawell in 3 days the next LTS is going to be released. You can wait and test them out too08:44
xubuntu403I am concerned with function, not looks.08:44
xubuntu403I intend to stay with 12.04 until it expires. This will allow the bugs to be fixed in the next LTS.08:45
junkaxubuntu403, i dont see any downside. The only real difference is the DE and some default packages08:50
mimoidXfce 4.10 Has been the DE for the last three versions. It doesn't look like anything new is coming out of Xfce. Where is a rundown on the upcoming release? I can't find a page with real answers.08:52
mimoidI guess a new kernel, keeping in-line with ubuntu upstream.08:53
junkamimoid, xubuntu 14.04 will ship with 4.1108:54
junkaunfortunately there is not eta for 4.12 other than 'when it's ready'08:54
mimoidI don't see anything on xfce.org about 4.1108:55
mimoidit is nonexistent as far as i can see08:55
mimoidLink?08:55
junkamimoid, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Meetings/Archive/Minutes/2013-11-03-features08:57
junka4.11 is not an official release that's why it;s not on xfce.org08:57
mimoidwhere can I learn about 4.11 by itself08:58
mimoidthe components, etc08:59
junkamimoid, https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.1209:00
mimoidwhatever, as long as it keeps up with new stuff thrown at desktop linux like, say, systemd or whatnot09:01
mimoidxubuntu doesn't change anything that is going on here, right? http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/ubuntu-1404-lts-security-for-human.html09:02
mimoidof course not09:04
junkaxubuntu has also patched heartbleed bug09:04
mimoidwhy would i ask that09:04
junkaxubuntu uses ubuntu as core09:05
mimoidIt is good to know that a malicious https server wont peek at my memory09:06
mimoidBut a 6GB install... hmmm... I'm going to have to think on how to ration my 240GB drive between windows 7 and this09:07
kajairhey there. how can you play both tuxguitar in one jack and a mp3 in an input jack and mix of them in an soundcard?11:52
kajair*sry11:53
kajairtuxguitar (out) + guitar(in jack) + mp3 (background)11:54
kajairwhole output mix in another soundcard11:54
FoggalongAnybody know of a workspace overview that works with XFCE?12:43
knomeFoggalong, there's a workspace switcher panel applet12:44
Foggalongknome: yeah, I mean something a little more fancy12:44
knomeFoggalong, middle-clicking the desktop (by default) also shows the applications for workspaces12:45
knomeother than that, i don't think so12:45
Foggalongknome: not GNOME or Unity style fancy but something more than a pannel12:45
Foggalongknone: well that's cool! Not sure how I hadn't noticed that12:45
alex72grhello everybody12:46
alex72grI've installed xubuntu 12.04 64 bit on my PC12:47
alex72grmy display card has an HDMI output with audio (which works perfectly on windows)12:48
alex72grxubuntu recognizes this output, but... although the sound settings window shows an indicator bar for HDMI audio output... I have NO sound...12:49
alex72grdoes anybody know what happens?12:49
limeygood morning!13:11
limeyI have a question. I connect via vpn to a provider, whenever I download torrents13:12
limeyI don't know why, but under xubuntu, they never start13:13
limeyif I kill the vpn, they work13:13
limeyanyone ever come across this? In windows they just work. why would the vpn have a problem with linux?13:14
watermarkAs an FYI, xubuntu.com doesn't redirect properly, but www.xubuntu.com does.13:49
knomewatermark, will send a RT ticket about that, thanks for noticing13:52
watermarkknome, np13:52
knomedone, now pending on canonical IS13:53
Foggalong14.04, I've got two clocks in my pannel14:17
FoggalongWhat's the deal?14:17
elfyFoggalong: the deal is the fix hasn't landed yet14:32
Foggalongelfy: ah, thanks for the update14:32
MeerkatFoggalong, I only have 1 clock on 14.04. I upgraded from 13.10, did you do a fresh install?14:38
FoggalongYeah, fresh install14:39
FoggalongMeerkat: Upgrade completely tanked when I tried14:40
FoggalongHey jono15:05
NRDisciplefinally running live cd on this old computer sigh, still can't get sound to work, just wait for 14.04?15:21
NRDiscipleor try out beta 215:21
NRDisciplethe user of the computer is someone that once she sets everything up, doesn't like to change things15:22
knomeNRDisciple, sounds is hardly just starting to work on the final image... what's the issue?15:22
amigamagicyou can try last daily development version but I don't think new releases support older hardware...15:22
NRDisciple=/15:22
NRDiscipleno sound coming from the speakers15:23
NRDisciplerunning an audigy2 value15:23
NRDiscipleyes old hardware :P15:23
knomeNRDisciple, what release are you running from the live CD?15:23
amigamagicyou have to check what sound chipset you have and then search on the web for linux drivers15:23
knomei have an audigy2 card as well, it has worked for me since 12.0415:23
elfyNRDisciple: I have an old audigy too15:24
NRDiscipleon another distro, i just ticked audigy analog/digital in GNOME Alsamixer and it worked15:24
Meerkatare the speakers connected properly? Can you verify with another OS?15:24
NRDiscipleyes15:24
NRDisciplethey were working on ZorinOS15:24
amigamagicif it works in 12.04 it's strange it doesn't work on 13.x or 14.x releases15:24
NRDiscipleso i know the speakers work15:24
NRDisciplefirst time user of Xubuntu15:25
NRDisciplei'm running the 13.10 live cd15:25
amigamagicNRDisciple, sometimes the live cd doesn't have all the drivers and maybe with a full install it downloads the missing drivers from the web15:25
Meerkathave you tried playing a youtube video?15:26
NRDiscipleyes meerkat15:26
knomeNRDisciple, did you try changing the output from pavucontrol?15:26
NRDisciplelol someone told me not to do a full install and see if the livecd would have audio15:26
NRDisciplebut i have it installed15:26
NRDisciplejust testing out the cd15:26
NRDiscipleand pavucontrol is fine15:27
NRDiscipleshows the audigy card15:27
MeerkatNRDisciple, click the speaker icon in the panel (where the clock and menu button is) and click 'sound settings'. Is Volume Control up with the Output Devices tab?15:27
NRDiscipleclicking the speaker up top in the taskbard doesn't do anything15:28
elfyNRDisciple: checked it's set as analog in alsamixer15:28
elfy?15:28
NRDisciplespeaker with - - -  after it15:29
MeerkatNRDisciple, then entering pavucontrol in a terminal emulator would bring that up.15:29
NRDiscipleyes i went to pavucontrol15:29
NRDisciplenow in alsamixer from terminal15:29
Meerkathow many devices do you have in the Output Devices tab?15:30
NRDisciplehow do i set it as analog?15:30
NRDiscipledefault is just -15:30
NRDiscipledevice 0 is Audigy15:30
NRDisciplei set it for device 015:30
NRDiscipleAudigy Analog/Digital output Jack is 0015:31
NRDisciplewith no ability to alter volume15:31
elfyNRDisciple: press M15:31
NRDisciplemaster volume is 10015:31
NRDisciplei did, it changes to MM15:31
elfywhen on that channel 00 is digital15:31
NRDisciplewhen i hit M again, it goes back to 0015:31
NRDiscipleah15:32
elfyleave it at MM :)15:32
NRDiscipleok15:32
elfynow you can deal with the volumes and check that pavucontrol is actually set to use it :)15:32
NRDiscipleon analog output/no amplifier15:33
NRDisciplenothing =/15:33
NRDisciplei installed GNOME alsamixer too, no dice15:33
elfystart playing something - then go to the playback tab15:33
elfyyou can set the desired output there15:34
NRDisciplealsa playback shows a moving bar15:34
NRDisciplebut no sound15:34
NRDiscipleas with the output tab15:35
NRDisciplei'd rather just chuck this computer into the garbage :P but we dont have money to upgrade and i dont want to keep it on XP15:36
NRDiscipleit's 50x more stable running on xubuntu =/ just need it to have sound15:36
elfyjust double check that aplay -l in a terminal shows the card(s)15:36
NRDisciplei should just back out and load up the installed OS and try this15:37
NRDiscipleok lemme check15:37
elfyhttp://imgur.com/ppyn1Gb,AsexNhH15:37
NRDiscipleyup it sees it15:37
elfyis how I'm set up here15:38
elfyand I've got an audigy 1 ;)15:38
NRDiscipleall i have is sSB0400 Audigy 2 Value ANalog Stereo15:38
NRDiscipleexcuse the little s15:38
NRDisciplelol15:38
NRDisciplethere is a realtek onboard audio chip as well....15:38
NRDisciplebut I couldn't even get sound to work with it on xp15:39
NRDiscipleso i just disabled it15:39
elfyyep15:39
elfyother than checking the various outputs on pavucontrol and making sure it's all on - I've no more help15:39
NRDisciple=/15:39
NRDisciplewonder what in ZorinOS allowed the sound to come15:39
NRDisciplestrange =/15:40
elfythough I did once spend 30 minutes fiddling with no sound then plugged the cable in15:40
NRDisciplelol15:40
NRDiscipleit's plugged in :P15:40
NRDisciplejust double checked15:41
NRDiscipleok gonna log into the installed OS15:41
NRDisciplebbiab15:41
elfythen I would guess it is something simple15:41
amigamagicsometimes one plug the cable in the input jack instead of the output jack. I did that too. :P15:42
NRDiscipleno difference :(15:44
amigamagicwith the live of ubuntu 12.04 it works?15:45
NRDisciplenaw still on 13.10 but now on the installed OS15:45
elfycheck alsamixer again and then play something and then work with pavucontrol15:46
NRDiscipleonly have one more DVD to burn... should i try the 12.04LTS?15:46
elfyjust work with what you've got :)15:47
NRDisciplehate to install it and have 14.04 come out hehehe15:47
MeerkatNRDisciple, how many devices was listed in the pavucontrol outputs list?15:47
NRDisciplewell i heard that15:47
NRDisciplethe beep from the IRC15:47
NRDisciplejust not the youtube video15:47
NRDisciplenvm it was muted15:48
NRDisciplesound works!15:48
NRDisciplestrange15:48
NRDisciplei'm not complaining hehe15:48
NRDisciplethanks guys15:49
amigamagicNRDisciple, you can use an usb pendrive to install linux15:49
amigamagicin this way you don't have to burn hundreds of dvd15:49
NRDisciplewould have to install that thing that allows USB booting for mobos that do not support it15:50
NRDiscipleanyways hoping that all works well whenthe LTS comes out15:50
amigamagicit needs a motherboard that supports boot from usb15:50
amigamagicif your mb is too old, maybe this is not possible15:50
amigamagicyou have to check in the bios15:51
MeerkatI can send you 600 floppies15:51
SonikkuAmericaI'm not seeing the update notifications in the notification area, but I have update-notifier-common installed. What do I do?15:51
amigamagicI don't think 600 floppies are sufficient for an actual iso live15:52
NRDisciplethere is a progam to isntall to the MBR that allows you to boot from USB15:52
bekksWhich is called "boot loader" ;)15:52
knomeNRDisciple, amigamagic: http://xubuntu.org/news/booting-the-xubuntu-usb-image-from-a-cd/15:52
amigamagicknome, that's cool!15:53
NRDiscipleah15:56
NRDisciplePLoP15:56
NRDisciplethat's what it's called15:56
NRDiscipleanyways the mother is not going to enjoy redoing everything when 14.04 comes out :P thanks for the help15:57
SonikkuAmericaPity my impatience, but: I'm not seeing the update notifications in the notification area, but I have update-notifier-common installed. What do I do?15:59
SonikkuAmerica(And update-notifier for that matter)16:00
amigamagichave you checked in the options that the update check is done every day?16:00
iwshHy, guys!16:04
junkahey16:05
iwshUm, I'll be short. I have Xubuntu 12.04.4 and I can't set a wallpaper with ristretto. I could in 13.10 (but my Intel video driver is working better here for some reason)16:06
iwshPlus, I have xfce 4.1216:06
iwshSo, has anyone encountered this problem before?16:07
amigamagicwow, xfce 4.1216:07
iwshUhm, xfce 4.10 and 4.12 ppa connected : )16:07
amigamagic4.12 is so better than 4.11 ?16:08
bekksIt is more recent.16:08
iwsh4.11 ? oO16:08
iwshI have never heard of that : D16:08
FoggalongWait there's a 4.12 ppa?!16:08
amigamagicxubuntu 14.04 ships with xfce 4.1116:08
iwshhttps://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.1216:08
junkait's development16:09
iwshYep16:09
iwshHowever, ristretto isn't there oO16:09
iwshCan't remember, if I tried switching wallpapers withouth xfce 4.1216:09
iwsh4.08 is quite old for me oO (even though, it was the first I used)16:10
iwshI haven't tried 14.04. I tried 12.10, because it was released on my birthday (it was good). I tried 13.04 (for an hour : D ), but I had instant kernel panics during login (something related to my broadcom wlan card). And then I used 13.10. Which was also good, but my brightness controls were more wrecked, than before, and some wine games wouldn't recognize my video card :$ .16:14
iwshGuess, I'll just test 12.04 in a VirtualBox16:14
iwshWithouth xfce4.1216:14
FoggalongIs there a disadvantage to using 4.12?16:15
iwshNo disadvantages, I'm just trying to comprehend, why ristretto won't set a wallpaper for me : )16:17
iwshLike it did in 13.1016:17
Foggalongamigamagic: are you sure?16:17
iwshMaybe something related to xfdesktop package or I don't  know.16:17
FoggalongI'm running 14.04 right now and it's still 4.1016:17
iwshIt surely did in 13.10 : )16:17
iwshWEll, I must admit, i'm misusing it16:18
iwshI just have the https://launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive/xfce-4.1216:18
iwshconnected16:18
iwshThere are just some packages16:18
iwshAnd the version is actually 4.1116:18
iwshSo, there are misusing it too  : )16:18
iwshthey are*16:19
iwsh(what a mess of numbers)16:19
FoggalongI'm confused now16:20
iwshSo. Again. I have Xubuntu 12.04.04, with xfce4.10 and xfce4.12 ppas connected. And xfce4.12 ppa actually contains several 4.11 packages.16:20
iwshNot 4.12 as the name suggests oO16:20
FoggalongSo if you wanted 4.12 how do you get it?!16:21
elfycan we take this conversation to #xubuntu-offtopic please :)16:21
iwshIf so, than back to my problem. I can't set a wallpaper with ristretto. And the desktop settings window doesn't have a '+' sign to add some either16:22
SonikkuAmericaamigamagic: Sorry, was playing Minecraft. I should check, probably16:22
Foggalongelfy: isn't the Xubuntu Topic that 13.10 was released?16:23
SonikkuAmericaamigamagic: The thing reads "Daily"16:23
FoggalongOh, and support16:23
FoggalongWhich is what this seems to be16:23
elfythis is support for released version - but not PPAs16:24
elfyand 14.04 is released Thursday ;)16:24
amigamagicSonikkuAmerica, so it should work16:24
Foggalongelfy: surely this dicussion isn't harming anything?16:25
Foggalongelfy: or I could just rephrase the question16:25
iwshOkay oO . I actually found out, that my problem is indeed related to using these ppas. I'll try disconnecting 4.12, see if it works for me.16:25
iwshThanks for Help! : )16:25
FoggalongI'm currently running 13.10 and I want 4.12 - will it be in 14.04 or is there a ppa I can add to get it?16:26
Foggalong;)16:26
SonikkuAmericaamigamagic: Well it doesn't/16:26
iwshexist*16:26
iwsh: D16:26
knomeFoggalong, 4.12 hasn't been released. no, there most probably won't be a PPA for 4.12 for 13.10.16:26
iwshI confused everyone oO .16:27
Foggalongknome: thanks :)16:27
Foggalongknome: so it's going to be 4.10 in 14.10?16:27
knomeFoggalong, whatever is in there now will be pretty much what it will have16:27
knomeno sense to backport stuff to a release that's supported for 9 months...16:27
knomewait,16:28
knome14.10? depends if 4.12 is ready in time16:28
FoggalongOops16:31
FoggalongI did mean 14.04 :P16:31
knome14.04 will have 4.10 and some 4.11 components16:31
Foggalongknome: thanks16:32
FoggalongIt just seems to be a fair bit different from 13.1016:33
FoggalongI...I..MEAN SUPPOSEDLY16:33
knomeyes... we are finally landing last of the stuff that has been prepared in the last two years16:33
Foggalongknome: cool!16:35
Foggalongknome: well other than the panel everything is working brilliantly so far16:35
Foggalong...supposedly)16:36
iwsh... I ppa-purged 4.11 and I can now set wallpapers with ristretto oO . So here's my questions regarind non-ppa-ed Xubuntus. Does Xubuntu 13.10 contain onlu 4.10 packages?16:37
iwshregarding*16:37
iwshonly*16:37
iwshquestion*16:38
FoggalongThe new messaging indicator is pretty cool16:42
sleeziohello, i'm trying to open a file in google earth over my network, but i don't see any network connections to choose from, i only see my harddrive17:02
sleezioi'm mapped to the network in question in thunar17:02
sleezioeven in add > network link, when i click browse, i only see my harddrive17:04
sleezioany ideas whats going on with this?17:04
junkaFoggalong, what messaging indicator? :D17:13
Foggalongsc17:14
FoggalongHold on :)17:14
Foggalongjunka: http://imgur.com/a/z8m2A17:16
junkaawesome17:18
junkait was not present in beta version17:18
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junkaFoggalong, what artwork do u have17:21
Foggalongjunka: numixproject.org17:21
junkathanks17:22
Foggalongjunka: you're we;lcome17:36
IlezzoHi! sorry for my bad english! =D17:49
IlezzoI'm currently installing Xubuntu 13.1017:50
Ilezzo=)17:50
RFlemingIlezzo, what is your native language?17:52
serg_hi all. I have a problem. But may be it normally. On my pc installed xbuntu 13.10. By default system using Pulse audio server. Problem with skype. When i logon to my profile, skype starting automatically. When it starts, it haven't sound, bat when i restart it manually sound is work.18:09
serg_*but18:10
GridCubeserg_, open the skype that you launch automatically and go see if in pavucontrol the output device for it is the one you want to use18:24
TheSheepalso, you migth want to place it after pulseaudio in the autostart list18:26
serg_you right. it paced before pulse audio in my session. Thank you18:26
guest2152352Quick question if anybody knows: is there any way to upgrade from LTS to 'regular' release without re-installing?  It's sort of silly but I don't have a blank DVD or a USB stick handy.18:32
knomeguest2152352, you can upgrade LTS to a regular release.18:32
guest2152352How?18:33
knomeguest2152352, in "software and upgrades", check the "updates" tab and change "notify me of a new ubuntu version" to "for any new version"18:34
knomeguest2152352, then run update-manager18:34
knomeguest2152352, if you are on 12.04 though, you might want to wait for a few days and upgrade to 14.04 directly though18:34
guest2152352Hmm, you know I saw some kind of guide (I think in the docs?) about that.  There is no 'Software and Upgrades' in my system settings.  There is an 'Update Manager' program that alerts me to updates, but I don't think there was a setting like that in the program.  It just scans for updates to all my software.18:39
knomeguest2152352, are you on 12.04?18:39
guest2152352Yes18:39
knomeguest2152352, is there a specific reason you want to upgrade to 12.10?18:40
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guest2152352knome: Not particularly, I just have no practical reason to be on the LTS line.18:42
knomeguest2152352, 14.04, the next LTS, is released on thursday18:43
knomeguest2152352, you will be able to upgrade directly to it18:43
knomeguest2152352, otherwise, you will have to run several upgrades to get to 14.0418:44
knomeguest2152352, so i would wait until thursday before upgrading18:44
guest2152352Oh?  Good to know.  I'll wait on that, then.  Thanks.18:44
knomeno problem18:45
guest2152352Nice timing, I guess, hehe.18:45
knomeif it's not a production machine, and you have backups, and want to help xubuntu, you can upgrade it now and report the test results as well... :)18:45
guest2152352I originally installed it as an alternate boot option for very infrequent cases when I needed to check some code on linux.18:45
guest2152352Hah.  Happy to do that, actually.18:45
knomeguest2152352, ok, then join us at #xubuntu-devel18:45
guest2152352I have just got a new computer, so this one with xubuntu on it I intend to make entirely linux so I can poke at it more often / use it to test random whims on / etc. without having to switch OS (just intend to remote to it from the new computer).18:47
delt"lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions" <--- why am i getting tons of these in my kernel logs?19:13
kupo_                     what's the ubuntu+1 chan again?19:17
bekkskupo_: put a # in front ;)19:18
kupo_thanks19:18
leinnanHi19:31
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veronicaciao a tutti20:20
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Guest83265qualcuno puo aiutarmi20:21
Unit193!it20:21
ubottuVai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:21
Guest83265grazie a voi20:22
kupo_oh yeah. just upgraded my ram. a whole 7.4 gigs now in use20:43
Unit193Amd64 I'd presume?20:44
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gQuigsHi there.. I was wondering if Xubuntu 14.04 is going to come with 3 or 5 years of support21:59
knomethree years for xubuntu lts releases21:59
gQuigsknome: thanks!22:00
kupo_I thought LTS was always 5 years22:17
gQuigsif there is an officially place where it's listed what flavors mean by LTS I'd appreciate it22:20
gQuigskupo_: different flavors can choose to go LTS or not, and I guess decide how long their LTS is22:20
skribblezatchathere is an official place where it is listed. its listed right on the xubuntu website gQuigs.22:22
kupo_I see. all is well22:22
gQuigsskribblezatcha: I meant *Ubuntu project wide, so I can see who is supporting LTS for how long22:23
* gQuigs is trying to pick which flavors to bring to an installfest22:23
skribblezatchao ok, i see gQuigs. i bet that there is such a page if you were to look for it.22:25
bekkshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS22:26
kupo_wonder if mint is going for the 17 quick22:27
knomegQuigs, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/#Support_lifespan22:35
skribblezatchawhat do you mean kupo_?22:36
knomegeneral linux discussion to #xubuntu-offtopic please22:37
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amigamagicsomeone knows why thunar is so slow in browsing an smb folder the first time?23:31
amigamagicwith nautilus when you browse the lan, the smb folders on your local lan are accessible very fast23:32
juanmontoyaamigamagic: not always, in my case, browsing the lan for windows share is even faster than windows :/23:33
amigamagicso it depends from the ethernet driver?23:34
juanmontoyaI don't know on what depends... btw the other machine is windows xp, on windows 7, vista, etc... it's impossible23:35
amigamagicin my case, when I browse the lan it takes very much time before it goes in the windows shared folders...23:36
juanmontoyawell I'm just another user and I don't have all the answers. But when I need to access a samba share I type smb://IPADDRESS23:38
juanmontoyaexactly because it is slow sometimes :/23:38
amigamagicI will try with the direct address...23:39
amigamagicmmmh... I don't know if it's a case, but with a direct smb://192.168.xxx.xxx it's fast23:42
amigamagicI have to try to reboot and see if it access the lan fast again with direct ip addressing23:43

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