[01:47] <koell> lol
[05:45] <AndChat|197561> Hello there
[05:45] <Noskcaj> hey AndChat|197561
[05:46] <AndChat|197561> Ve got some problems installing lubuntu 13.10 on my worstation in my college
[05:46] <AndChat|197561> Have windows xp and free space for lubuntu on my dev sda
[05:46] <Noskcaj> ok
[05:47] <AndChat|197561> But i can't get access to my dev sda through live
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> It shows only dev sdb (my flash usb) and just dev sda
[05:48] <Noskcaj> strange
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> But there are not any partition
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> But lsblk dev sda shows everything normal
[05:48] <Noskcaj> Is the hard drive partitioned?
[05:48] <AndChat|197561> Yeap
[05:49] <Noskcaj> If there's only one, it will just be called sda
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> Nope, i also have windows xp on it
[05:50] <Noskcaj> ok. Do you want to install them side-by-side or just lubuntu?
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> But it doesn't shows my partitions
[05:50] <AndChat|197561> Side by side
[05:51] <Noskcaj> That is weird.
[05:52] <Noskcaj> You could try 14.04's release candidate
[05:53] <Noskcaj> it will come out in two days, so it's pretty much stable
[05:53] <Noskcaj> someone in #ubuntu might also be able to help you
[05:54] <JohnDoe_71Rus> some one can test hostapd in RC lubuntu?
[05:55] <JohnDoe_71Rus> one week ago it don't work. use hostapd from 13.10
[06:00] <Noskcaj> JohnDoe_71Rus, One moment
[06:09] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, look http://imgur.com/s6iozpc
[06:10] <Noskcaj> AndChat|197561, That is strange
[06:10] <Noskcaj> Like i said above, it might be fixed in 14.04
[06:11] <Noskcaj> Actually, is it mounted yet?
[06:11] <Noskcaj> and what's the ! for in gparted?
[06:11] <JohnDoe_71Rus> the disk base oк dynamic logical?
[06:12] <JohnDoe_71Rus> http://www.disk-partition.com/dynamic-disk/dynmaic-disk-and-dynamic-volume.html
[06:13] <Noskcaj> JohnDoe_71Rus, No idea what's wrong with hostapd sorry. But the version in 14.04 is a lot newer
[06:13] <Noskcaj> so it could work
[06:14] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, it says that my sda is unallocated
[06:15] <Noskcaj> AndChat|197561, No idea then, sorry.
[06:15] <AndChat|197561> :(
[06:15] <Noskcaj> 14.04 might have it fixed though
[06:15] <Noskcaj> You could try that
[06:17] <JohnDoe_71Rus> Noskcaj: i get this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1289047
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, i can partition sda with cfdisk
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Noskcaj, is there any way to install lubuntu usind terminal?
[06:31] <AndChat|197561> Like in archlinux
[06:33] <JohnDoe_71Rus> AndChat|197561: alternative cd
[06:33] <Noskcaj> yep
[06:34] <AndChat|197561> What?
[06:35] <Noskcaj> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/20140414/trusty-alternate-amd64.iso
[06:35] <Noskcaj> A cli installer
[11:48] <Roxxor> Hello, I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. The network-manager is not showing anymore. I have the notification area activated in the panel, and nm-applet in terminal does not lead to anything :/ Can somebody help me? Thank you :)
[11:49] <Roxxor> Also for a newly created user, therefore with standard setting, the network-manager does not appear
[12:30] <raiden> hello
[17:03] <K350> I've lubuntu 13.04. There are never any updates when I do apt-get upgrade anymore. Why is that and what can I do about it?
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: Because 13.04 is dead.
[17:04] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: Get Lubuntu 13.10
[17:06] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: oh, uff..then I've to make a new install...and configure it the way I want it...*rolls eyes*...that'll take for ever..oh well...what to do...
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: You don't have to do that!!
[17:07] <SonikkuAmerica> There are ways to do release upgrades without screwing around with your configuration!
[17:08] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: You can use [ do-release-upgrade ] from the terminal, or you can run the Software Updater and it will tell you a new release is available.
[17:09] <SonikkuAmerica> !upgrade
[17:12] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: I tried that a couple of years ago. But then it screwwed up my system. Well that was then..maybe it works better now?
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: I'd say it's much more solid now, but you can upgrade via a 13.10 !Live image as well. Just select "Upgrade Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.10" at the third screen.
[17:13] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: (Unless you have UEFI)
[17:14] <K350> Should I wait fo r14.04 instead?
[17:14] <K350> And upgrade from 13.04 direct to 14.04?
[17:14] <SonikkuAmerica> That isn't possible. However, if you get 13.10 now, you can upgrade to 14.04 at release time (this Thursday) without needing another !Live image.
[17:15] <K350> so if I run the upgrade from the command line from 13.04 to 13.10 then I've to do it again from 13.10 to 14.04..right?
[17:17] <SonikkuAmerica> Yes. Run it now, and in a few days after 14.04 comes out, run it again - or any time between Thursday and July.
[17:18] <K350> Okay. is it safe to keep some configuration files in /etc..I mean not repalcing them?
[17:20] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: If you use do-release-upgrade or the Software Updater, you'll be given the choice to keep or replace conflicting configuration files.
[17:21] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: yes, but is it safe to keep them?
[17:22] <SonikkuAmerica> K350: That is for you to find out, but not for us to know. If you know what config files you want to keep, keep 'em. Otherwise, replace 'em.
[17:23] <K350> SonikkuAmerica: okay, thanks! :-)
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> Happy upgrading!
[17:23] <K350> thanks. happy eastern! :-)
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> -n
[17:23] <SonikkuAmerica> You too!
[21:32] <evanvarvell> .. test..
[21:38] <ianorlin> your client is working now do you need any support
[23:38] <Ahmuck> hi hi
[23:38] <Ahmuck> hi hi
[23:39] <Ahmuck> i am using a spanish system (language) but need spanish and english spell check system wide.  is there a way to set the system up to do spanish and english spellcheck?
[23:40] <holstein> maybe you can just combing both into one custom one, and use it
[23:40] <holstein> combine*
[23:40] <Ahmuck> combine?  you mean combine the spell checkers?
[23:41] <holstein> Ahmuck: whats spell check? just a database of words, correct?
[23:41] <holstein> you can add to that base, if you like
[23:41] <holstein> so, why not just make a new one that contains both the english words from the english one, and spanish from the spanish one?
[23:42] <holstein> call it your own custom one.. id say, the issue could be that, many things may pass as correctly spelled in one langauge, and be an error in another
[23:42] <holstein> i cant imagine why you would need a document going that goes back and forth like that
[23:43] <holstein> i would just do one, then do the other... otherwise, you may have false positives, or just mistakes that pass un-noticed
[23:43] <Ahmuck> i can do that however the system checks for spanish only
[23:43] <Ahmuck> a document that would do that is conversational spanish for education
[23:44] <holstein> still, it shouldnt be both at the same time, correct?
[23:44] <Ahmuck> gnucash allows me to start with LANG & LANGUAGE variables, however, i can't seem to find that option with libreoffice
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: id ask in ubuntu, since lubuntu doesnt ship with it
[23:45] <Ahmuck> holstein: yes, that would be correct.  a nice feature would be an option to highlight and then select the language for language correction
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: or, try a libreoffice specific support
[23:45] <Ahmuck> holstein: the problem i'm having however is not just with libreoffice
[23:45] <Ahmuck> for example, chatzilla, thunderbird, osmo, etc.
[23:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: a large custom database with both is what you are asking for
[23:46] <holstein> i would just make my own, if thats what i wanted
[23:46] <Ahmuck> not really.  i'm asking for an option to start a desired program in a specific language
[23:47] <Ahmuck> whatever it may be
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: i read, system wide spanish and english spell checking
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: ive just seen you ask a few times, otherwise, i wouldnt bother commenting
[23:47] <Ahmuck> yes, it does not stop there, that is the simple explanation
[23:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: you should try main ubuntu since its not lubuntu or lxde specific
[23:47] <Ahmuck> for example, in gnucash the country code makes a difference in the type of accounts offered
[23:47] <Ahmuck> in other programs the country code makes a difference in the help options offered
[23:48] <Ahmuck> so if i want to do this i would have to select preferences, support of languages and change for every program i do which would require a logout, login, etc.
[23:49] <holstein> or, just select the custom one one time, that contains both languages
[23:50] <Ahmuck> getting help in ubuntu is near impossible because of their size (large) and it may be impossible here because of lubuntu's size (small) or unable to code a solution for those who use dual language systems
[23:50] <holstein> or, have 2 users setup.. or custom flags for the applications.. etc
[23:50] <Ahmuck> ya, i've thought of the 2 users setup, but then you have to share files, folders, etc.
[23:52] <Ahmuck> i was hoping someone else had encountered the problem and that perhaps i've missed the solution in the documentation
[23:53] <holstein> sure, and someone ight have in the main ubuntu community
[23:53] <holstein> in here, you are the only spanish speaking person i ever encounter on any regular basis
[23:54] <holstein> occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you
[23:54] <Ahmuck> is there a spanish lubuntu channel?
[23:54] <holstein> occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you
[23:54] <holstein> !es
[23:55] <Ahmuck> the bot link is broke
[23:55] <holstein> but, the main ubuntu channel, thats where you would *maybe* actually encounter a user that is either like you, or looking for exactly the same as you, or has already found it
[23:55] <Ahmuck> need to be #ubuntu-es ?
[23:55] <holstein> Ahmuck: whats the question, friend?
[23:55] <Ahmuck> er, #ubuntu-es ;
[23:56] <holstein> Ahmuck: i just sent you text in that channel
[23:56] <holstein> Ahmuck: what is "broke" about what, specifically?
[23:57] <holstein> Ahmuck: i would also ask in the very large libreoffice community
[23:58] <Ahmuck> ok.  so my lubuntu system is in LANG=es_MX LANGUAGE=es_MX
[23:58] <Ahmuck> i can start gnucash with the variables LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US
[23:58] <holstein> Ahmuck: what is broken?
[23:58] <holstein> Ahmuck: what about the bot link is broken?
[23:59] <Ahmuck> setting system variables on the fly for certian programs
[23:59] <Ahmuck> oh, ok
[23:59] <Ahmuck> i thought you meant with the language and country was set up and operating
[23:59] <Ahmuck> ok, so the link you gave me i clicked on #ubuntu; and it opened up channel #ubuntu; rather than #ubuntu