[01:47] lol [05:45] Hello there [05:45] hey AndChat|197561 [05:46] Ve got some problems installing lubuntu 13.10 on my worstation in my college [05:46] Have windows xp and free space for lubuntu on my dev sda [05:46] ok [05:47] But i can't get access to my dev sda through live [05:48] It shows only dev sdb (my flash usb) and just dev sda [05:48] strange [05:48] But there are not any partition [05:48] But lsblk dev sda shows everything normal [05:48] Is the hard drive partitioned? [05:48] Yeap [05:49] If there's only one, it will just be called sda [05:50] Nope, i also have windows xp on it [05:50] ok. Do you want to install them side-by-side or just lubuntu? [05:50] But it doesn't shows my partitions [05:50] Side by side [05:51] That is weird. [05:52] You could try 14.04's release candidate [05:53] it will come out in two days, so it's pretty much stable [05:53] someone in #ubuntu might also be able to help you [05:54] some one can test hostapd in RC lubuntu? [05:55] one week ago it don't work. use hostapd from 13.10 [06:00] JohnDoe_71Rus, One moment [06:09] Noskcaj, look http://imgur.com/s6iozpc [06:10] AndChat|197561, That is strange [06:10] Like i said above, it might be fixed in 14.04 [06:11] Actually, is it mounted yet? [06:11] and what's the ! for in gparted? [06:11] the disk base oк dynamic logical? [06:12] http://www.disk-partition.com/dynamic-disk/dynmaic-disk-and-dynamic-volume.html [06:13] JohnDoe_71Rus, No idea what's wrong with hostapd sorry. But the version in 14.04 is a lot newer [06:13] so it could work [06:14] Noskcaj, it says that my sda is unallocated [06:15] AndChat|197561, No idea then, sorry. [06:15] :( [06:15] 14.04 might have it fixed though [06:15] You could try that [06:17] Noskcaj: i get this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wpa/+bug/1289047 [06:17] Launchpad bug 1289047 in wpa (Ubuntu) "[Trusty] hostapd package is broken" [Critical,Confirmed] [06:31] Noskcaj, i can partition sda with cfdisk [06:31] Noskcaj, is there any way to install lubuntu usind terminal? [06:31] Like in archlinux [06:33] AndChat|197561: alternative cd [06:33] yep [06:34] What? [06:35] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily/20140414/trusty-alternate-amd64.iso [06:35] A cli installer [11:48] Hello, I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. The network-manager is not showing anymore. I have the notification area activated in the panel, and nm-applet in terminal does not lead to anything :/ Can somebody help me? Thank you :) [11:49] Also for a newly created user, therefore with standard setting, the network-manager does not appear [12:30] hello === trijntje_ is now known as trijntje [17:03] I've lubuntu 13.04. There are never any updates when I do apt-get upgrade anymore. Why is that and what can I do about it? [17:04] K350: Because 13.04 is dead. [17:04] K350: Get Lubuntu 13.10 [17:06] SonikkuAmerica: oh, uff..then I've to make a new install...and configure it the way I want it...*rolls eyes*...that'll take for ever..oh well...what to do... [17:07] K350: You don't have to do that!! [17:07] There are ways to do release upgrades without screwing around with your configuration! [17:08] K350: You can use [ do-release-upgrade ] from the terminal, or you can run the Software Updater and it will tell you a new release is available. [17:09] !upgrade [17:09] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [17:12] SonikkuAmerica: I tried that a couple of years ago. But then it screwwed up my system. Well that was then..maybe it works better now? [17:13] K350: I'd say it's much more solid now, but you can upgrade via a 13.10 !Live image as well. Just select "Upgrade Ubuntu 13.04 to Ubuntu 13.10" at the third screen. [17:13] K350: (Unless you have UEFI) [17:14] Should I wait fo r14.04 instead? [17:14] And upgrade from 13.04 direct to 14.04? [17:14] That isn't possible. However, if you get 13.10 now, you can upgrade to 14.04 at release time (this Thursday) without needing another !Live image. [17:15] so if I run the upgrade from the command line from 13.04 to 13.10 then I've to do it again from 13.10 to 14.04..right? [17:17] Yes. Run it now, and in a few days after 14.04 comes out, run it again - or any time between Thursday and July. [17:18] Okay. is it safe to keep some configuration files in /etc..I mean not repalcing them? [17:20] K350: If you use do-release-upgrade or the Software Updater, you'll be given the choice to keep or replace conflicting configuration files. [17:21] SonikkuAmerica: yes, but is it safe to keep them? [17:22] K350: That is for you to find out, but not for us to know. If you know what config files you want to keep, keep 'em. Otherwise, replace 'em. [17:23] SonikkuAmerica: okay, thanks! :-) [17:23] Happy upgrading! [17:23] thanks. happy eastern! :-) [17:23] -n [17:23] You too! [21:32] .. test.. [21:38] your client is working now do you need any support [23:38] hi hi [23:38] hi hi [23:39] i am using a spanish system (language) but need spanish and english spell check system wide. is there a way to set the system up to do spanish and english spellcheck? [23:40] maybe you can just combing both into one custom one, and use it [23:40] combine* [23:40] combine? you mean combine the spell checkers? [23:41] Ahmuck: whats spell check? just a database of words, correct? [23:41] you can add to that base, if you like [23:41] so, why not just make a new one that contains both the english words from the english one, and spanish from the spanish one? [23:42] call it your own custom one.. id say, the issue could be that, many things may pass as correctly spelled in one langauge, and be an error in another [23:42] i cant imagine why you would need a document going that goes back and forth like that [23:43] i would just do one, then do the other... otherwise, you may have false positives, or just mistakes that pass un-noticed [23:43] i can do that however the system checks for spanish only [23:43] a document that would do that is conversational spanish for education [23:44] still, it shouldnt be both at the same time, correct? [23:44] gnucash allows me to start with LANG & LANGUAGE variables, however, i can't seem to find that option with libreoffice [23:45] Ahmuck: id ask in ubuntu, since lubuntu doesnt ship with it [23:45] holstein: yes, that would be correct. a nice feature would be an option to highlight and then select the language for language correction [23:45] Ahmuck: or, try a libreoffice specific support [23:45] holstein: the problem i'm having however is not just with libreoffice [23:45] for example, chatzilla, thunderbird, osmo, etc. [23:45] Ahmuck: a large custom database with both is what you are asking for [23:46] i would just make my own, if thats what i wanted [23:46] not really. i'm asking for an option to start a desired program in a specific language [23:47] whatever it may be [23:47] Ahmuck: i read, system wide spanish and english spell checking [23:47] Ahmuck: ive just seen you ask a few times, otherwise, i wouldnt bother commenting [23:47] yes, it does not stop there, that is the simple explanation [23:47] Ahmuck: you should try main ubuntu since its not lubuntu or lxde specific [23:47] for example, in gnucash the country code makes a difference in the type of accounts offered [23:47] in other programs the country code makes a difference in the help options offered [23:48] so if i want to do this i would have to select preferences, support of languages and change for every program i do which would require a logout, login, etc. [23:49] or, just select the custom one one time, that contains both languages [23:50] getting help in ubuntu is near impossible because of their size (large) and it may be impossible here because of lubuntu's size (small) or unable to code a solution for those who use dual language systems [23:50] or, have 2 users setup.. or custom flags for the applications.. etc [23:50] ya, i've thought of the 2 users setup, but then you have to share files, folders, etc. [23:52] i was hoping someone else had encountered the problem and that perhaps i've missed the solution in the documentation [23:53] sure, and someone ight have in the main ubuntu community [23:53] in here, you are the only spanish speaking person i ever encounter on any regular basis [23:54] occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you [23:54] is there a spanish lubuntu channel? [23:54] occasionally someone will pop in and we give the !es bot link, and they leave.. i dont think *anyone* here is more knowlegable about spanish and english in lubuntu than you [23:54] !es [23:54] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [23:55] the bot link is broke [23:55] but, the main ubuntu channel, thats where you would *maybe* actually encounter a user that is either like you, or looking for exactly the same as you, or has already found it [23:55] need to be #ubuntu-es ? [23:55] Ahmuck: whats the question, friend? [23:55] er, #ubuntu-es ; [23:56] Ahmuck: i just sent you text in that channel [23:56] Ahmuck: what is "broke" about what, specifically? [23:57] Ahmuck: i would also ask in the very large libreoffice community [23:58] ok. so my lubuntu system is in LANG=es_MX LANGUAGE=es_MX [23:58] i can start gnucash with the variables LANG=en_US and LANGUAGE=en_US [23:58] Ahmuck: what is broken? [23:58] Ahmuck: what about the bot link is broken? [23:59] setting system variables on the fly for certian programs [23:59] oh, ok [23:59] i thought you meant with the language and country was set up and operating [23:59] ok, so the link you gave me i clicked on #ubuntu; and it opened up channel #ubuntu; rather than #ubuntu