[08:54] <xnox> stgraber: cjwatson: was there something funny about ch keyboard layout names changing defaults? (e.g. has the meaning of ch changed from german to french or some such)
[09:01] <tk818> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.10 in my laptop but I can´t. Is there any one to help me?
[09:08] <cjwatson> xnox: bug 869825 is the closest thing that comes to mind
[09:08] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 869825 in console-setup (Ubuntu Raring) "French (Switzerland) is no longer a layout choice in the installer" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/869825
[09:08] <xnox> cjwatson: thanks.
[16:05] <bjf> xnox, what do i file server install bugs against?
[16:06] <cjwatson> debian-installer
[16:06] <bjf> cjwatson, thanks
[16:06] <cjwatson> (the package in Ubuntu)
[16:22] <bjf> cjwatson, xnox bug #1308141
[16:22] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1308141 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "server install trying to mount ext4 partition as vfat on /boot/efi" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308141
[18:43] <zooko> Okay, shall I test today's Lubuntu daily installer iso? Last time I tested it (yesterday?) it had a segfault when reading a FAT32 partition table in parted.
[18:45] <cjwatson> That bug should be fixed now
[18:48] <zooko> cjwatson: do you know if http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/20140414/trusty-desktop-amd64.iso has your fix?
[18:48] <cjwatson> yes
[18:48] <zooko> That timestamp suggests that it might have been built.. okay.
[18:48] <zooko> Thanks.
[18:48] <cjwatson> er, and yes :)
[18:48] <cjwatson> yes I know and yes it does.
[18:49] <zooko> Will test.
[19:36] <phillw> hi good people... very quick question.. which script checks for the presence of PAE flag in the alternate (server) installer ISO system. I need to disable it as I have a non-pae kernel :) last time I asked, I am thinking it was mistaken for ubiquity, where as I'm using the https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer I've pulled in and expanded https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/debian-installer_20101020ubuntu317.tar
[19:38] <xnox> phillw: d-i pulls a lot of other udebs at runtime.
[19:38] <xnox> phillw: e.g. partman-* and so on and so for.
[19:38] <cjwatson> I could have sworn I answered this the other day?
[19:38] <cjwatson> 17:41 <cjwatson> kernel/i386.sh in the base-installer source package
[19:38] <cjwatson> 17:42 <cjwatson> I suggest you make your change by way of the test suite ("make test")
[19:38] <cjwatson> 17:43 <cjwatson> You'll probably want to change arch_check_usable_kernel for the case where the computed kernel flavour name is "486"
[19:38] <xnox> ah, thanks.
[19:39] <cjwatson> And no, I didn't misunderstand you as asking about ubiquity.
[19:41] <phillw> cjwatson: there is no such file as kernel/i386.sh
[19:41] <cjwatson> There is such a file in the base-installer source package.
[19:42] <cjwatson> In the initrd, it's /usr/lib/base-installer/kernel.sh
[19:42] <cjwatson> Sorry, not in the initrd, in the installation environment, I mean
[19:42] <phillw> cjwatson: but not in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/debian-installer_20101020ubuntu317.tar.gz ?
[19:42] <cjwatson> As xnox says, debian-installer downloads much of itself at run-time.
[19:43] <cjwatson> So no, it isn't expected to be there.
[19:43] <cjwatson> http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/doc/internals/ for how d-i is laid out.
[19:44] <phillw> so.. basically no way to overide the pae check, as it seems to be instigated long before any internet connection is made?
[19:45] <cjwatson> That's quite untrue.
[19:45] <cjwatson> On both counts.
[19:46] <cjwatson> base-installer runs well after the network comes up.
[19:46] <cjwatson> And you can either override it directly, or you can use the base-installer/kernel/override-image preseed key (which is basically a big hammer, "use this one damnit").
[19:46] <cjwatson> override it directly> that is, by changing the code
[19:47] <phillw> cjwatson: is that in the code from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/debian-installer_20101020ubuntu317.tar.gz or do I need a different source?
[19:48] <cjwatson> It is not in that tarball.
[19:49] <phillw> cjwatson: and, yeah... "just use this one, damnit" sounds about right for a non-pae kernel being put into a lubuntu ISO that checks for pae flag :)
[19:49] <cjwatson> It is in the base-installer source package, as I've said several times
[19:49] <phillw> cjwatson: would you have a link?
[19:49] <cjwatson> apt-get source base-installer
[19:49] <cjwatson> Or lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/base-installer/ubuntu
[19:52] <phillw> cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/base-installer/ubuntu here?
[19:52] <cjwatson> Yes
[19:55] <phillw> cjwatson: is there a .tar.gz available that I can pull into the build machine?
[19:57] <phillw> It just is a bit less scary if I keep everything at ~HOME/src as advised in various tutorials :)
[19:58] <cjwatson> "apt-get source base-installer" in a trusty environment will give you it
[19:58] <cjwatson> Or "bzr branch lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/base-installer/ubuntu base-installer"
[19:59] <phillw> whch is best to keep it in the src area? I'm okay with the tar.gz stuff, but not pulled in a bzr branch before
[20:00] <phillw> can I issue that from the ~HOME/src directory?
[20:00] <cjwatson> Either
[20:00] <cjwatson> They'll both fetch into the current directory
[20:01] <cjwatson> But perhaps you could ask somewhere else for packaging basics, or read developer.ubuntu.com or whatever, kinda busy with release
[20:04] <phillw> cjwatson: I know, so are others.... but... alll i want to do is to stop the installer insisting on PAE flag :D ... as you say, we will have more time after 14.04 is out... I'm also testing the lubuntu alternate builds :)
[20:04] <pmatulis> for a netboot, i understand there is a nic-modules downloadable.  where can i look at it?  i'm trying to troubleshoot why a netboot install fails to detect a network card but a standalone install does
[20:05] <phillw> I'll leave you in peace. Thankyou for your time
[20:05] <phillw> it keeps me busy as installs happen :P
[20:06] <cjwatson> So you could just try booting with base-installer/kernel/override-image=linux-generic on the kernel command line for the installer
[20:06] <cjwatson> Assuming that's a metapackage that points to your kernel, otherwise substitute as needed
[20:06] <cjwatson> nic-modules is spat out by the kernel build process
[20:13] <pmatulis> cjwatson: i may see the driver in the kernel source (nic-modules file) but how to check if it's present during a netboot?
[20:14] <phillw> cjwatson: The build provides the .debs, using make deb-pkg I do think we should re-visit this after release :)
[20:37] <pmatulis> cjwatson: re your first point, you're saying to have a certain kernel *installed* in the target system at the preseed stage.  but if there is no network card how do i get that far?