[06:16] morning all [06:19] good mornings [06:23] morning all [06:28] More almal [06:29] hi bduk1 superfly jabberwocky93 Spekko ThatGraemeGuy [06:29] more oom Kilos :) [06:30] more bduk1 [06:30] morning Kilos, jabberwocky93, bduk1, inetpro [06:30] mornings [06:30] and ThatGraemeGuy [06:31] Everybody well this morning? [06:31] ThatGraemeGuy: did you go to ScaleConf again this year? [06:31] pro opinion please is sudo touch /forcefsck a bad command and why [06:31] superfly: not this time [06:31] after going twice in a row I didn't feel like a third time would add anything significant [06:32] also i'm way more infrastructure focused now, and scaling isn't much of an issue [06:32] ThatGraemeGuy: yeah, neither did we. Increased number of developers + budget set for other things = no money to go [06:32] ThatGraemeGuy: after going once I felt like going again wouldn't add anything significant. [06:33] the only thing we might need to scale sometime is our own puppet infrastructure, clients typically have no need to scale [06:33] the guys that need to care about that sort of scale typically won't be hosting with the likes of us [06:33] true [06:33] more Kilos [06:34] these days it's very easy to set up your scalable system using something like EC2 [06:34] yes [06:34] dont forget juju :P [06:35] not sure what Juliaaaas has to do with it? :-p [06:35] https://juju.ubuntu.com/ [06:35] * jabberwocky93 chuckles [06:35] yes, i know [06:36] never heard of anyone using it though [06:36] does it support other distros yet? [06:36] ah, yeah I've only tried chef [06:36] if only my RL kitchen was that awesome ^_^ [06:45] * superfly prefers to use tried-and-tested tools, not Canoical's NIH-syndrome induced alternatives [06:47] *Canonical [06:48] looking at you, Ubuntu One [06:48] And Upstart [06:48] and Unity [06:48] and Mir [07:00] http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/us-airways-tweets-out-photo-of-model-airplane-in-womans-1563098531 <=== warning *NOT* safe for work environments, but hilarious none the less [07:20] good morning [07:20] Maaz: coffee on [07:20] * Maaz puts the kettle on [07:24] Coffee's ready for charl_! [07:26] hi charl_ [07:26] hi Kilos [07:26] how's it going [07:27] alive and you? [07:27] oh yes, how's it going with the fly [07:27] flu [07:27] fluffin stu [07:27] wat? [07:28] still hanging there and bad head day looks like [07:28] ah :( [07:28] no fun man [07:28] never knew a flu like this [07:28] get better soon ! [07:28] lol im trying man. it not lekker like this [07:29] havent done a reinstall in 2 weeks [07:31] they messed up freecell in 14.04 [07:32] you gotta keep playing game after game till you win or you cant close it [07:32] grrr [07:32] Maaz, google forcequit for 14.04 [07:32] Kilos: "Add a 'Force Quit' Applet to Ubuntu's Unity Launcher | OMG! Ubuntu!" http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/10/force-quit-applet-unity-launcher :: "Unity/Theming - Ubuntu Wiki" https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Theming :: "UbuntuUpdates - Package "unity" (trusty 14.04)" http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/main/base/unity :: "ubuntu-14.04 : Ubuntu - [07:32] Launchpad" https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+milestone/ubuntu-14.04 :: "“unity” source package : Trus… [07:37] killall freecell ? [07:37] or killall -9 [07:38] whats the -9 [07:39] forcequit dont work [07:39] sigh [07:41] killall kills all processes running under a specified name [07:41] -9 is the signal [07:41] not freecell that other thing [07:41] lemme see what its called [07:42] mahjong [07:42] oh that [07:43] (ALT+F2 > xkill > click on Window). [07:43] i tried that and alt+f2 says nothing matches my search [07:43] ai! [07:44] it is probably sending the wrong signal [07:44] hehe [07:45] every upgrade i gotta learn from scratch [07:45] it's probably sending SIGKILL instead of SIGTERM [07:45] shoulda got kde rather [07:45] i mean, the other way around :PO [07:46] you on unity right now? [07:46] ya and its good [07:46] better than 12.04 unity [07:46] unity has improved a lot [07:46] but i would never use it [07:46] too bloated and slow [07:47] i like to then i can see whats here and help noobs [07:47] 14.04 is quicker imo [07:48] hi Vince-0 [07:48] dont let the pro see me say that he will start saying its all relevant [07:48] hehe [07:48] hi Vince-0 [07:48] haai [07:53] the killall dont work either [07:53] grrr [07:53] do you have the right process name ? [07:53] i just found something [07:55] the kill minimise buttons dont shoe but if i click in the top panel where they supposed to be i can minimise it and then it shows them buttons [07:55] maybe thats still got to be sorted with the release [07:55] bah [07:56] best to report it in case [07:56] * Kilos goes to see if there are updates [07:56] report how [07:56] although i'm sure they are really busy now figuring things out right before the release of a major LTS [07:56] launchpad? [07:57] whew not a good day to think about stuff [07:57] never mind, if it's a common problem i'm sure it'll get fixed :) [07:57] why didnt you come here yesterday and help the noob [08:16] hi Trixar_za [08:26] Hi Kilos [08:33] inetpro, good morning [08:33] where is plus2 [09:08] ah charl_ worked it out [09:09] minimise then drag page to screen size and it still shows close button [09:09] was kinda over maximising methinks [09:11] might also be because i installed 14.04 unity onto 12.04 kde without formatting home [09:23] howdy all [09:23] hi magespawn [09:37] anybody know why i would lose packets with mtr but not with a simple ping? [09:43] magespawn *HRM* [09:43] Ive seen that behavior lately as well [09:43] and wondered about it [09:43] Im not exactly sure what MTR is doing but its something odd [09:44] my wireless links seem to drop the connection every now and then and i was trying to see which one it was [09:44] I dont trust mtr after a friend was running mtr traces to my house and seeing 90% packet loss with it, but there was no packet loss and everything was perfectly fine [09:45] can you recommend a similar tool Symmetria ? [09:45] none that I can think of off the top of my head, I normally run constant pings [09:48] somewhere i have problem, the link goes down every now and then, seems to take very long sometime [09:56] hi all, Kilos [10:02] hi penfifteen [10:02] whats with the nick blaze [10:10] Kilos: main is used on other machine at home [10:10] ah [10:11] as for the name of this one: type it out, with the fifteen as numbers ;) [10:11] pen15 [10:11] yeah [10:15] Kilos: you see what it looks like, right? [10:15] nope [10:41] haha what are bits and bytes in afrikaans [10:42] stukkies en happies? [10:44] afrikaans isnt an IT friendly language [11:49] Symmetria, is there anyway to do a real world test on speed? there is now adsl available on the exchange here, so that would mean that i could remove the wireless links, but it is only a max speed of 2mb [13:02] hey [13:03] hey guys should you enable the pre-proposed updates? [13:03] or will they cause to many problems [13:25] betabertus8899, hi there, if you hang around a bit one of the guys will answer your question [13:29] https://twitter.com/omgubuntu/status/456060570887020544 [13:40] cool [14:00] afternoon people [14:17] hi Private_User sorry was asleep [14:19] no worries, hi Kilos [14:21] lol are you still revving cellc? [14:30] lol [14:31] well internet seems to be fine at the moment [14:31] touch wood [14:31] ;) [14:31] hehe [14:39] wbb swopping drives [14:44] nearly hometime you working guys [14:45] yees [14:46] woop woop [14:46] hehe [14:46] then time for the terrible 8km commute [14:46] bwahaha [14:47] hahaha [14:52] i am staying late at work today because the users moan when i do maintenance during the day [14:52] ai! [14:52] havent you traced the bad link yet magespawn [14:56] must be one of them wifi booster things not hot [14:57] not_found you at work? [15:12] no i am busy moving the asterisk server from a virtualbox running on win 7 to its own machine [15:12] ah [15:12] then going around to one of the lodges to sort out two dstv decoders [15:13] wow you do everything [15:13] learning lots quickly [15:39] now it is time to go to the lodge [15:39] ok [15:40] later all [15:40] later mage [15:40] hmm... [15:57] hi Wraz [16:55] nuvolari: ? [17:31] hey guys [17:32] hi betabertus8899 [17:32] sorry i missed you today, was asleep [17:32] hey man how's things? [17:32] alive ty and you? [17:32] hehe [17:32] yea good [17:32] what have you fixed and what have you broken [17:32] oh [17:33] i fixed the double sent mail issue [17:33] i membered after we went off [17:33] what was it? [17:34] you can open synaptic and in edit at the top should be a fix broken option [17:34] edit-account settings-copies and folders, then just unselect place copy in sent folder [17:35] ah [17:35] looks like thunderbird placed a copy and the server saves a copy [17:35] very simple fix that took like 3 sec [17:36] lol [17:36] but took me like 4 hours seaching the net... yeah [17:36] takes a while to learn [17:36] haha so now sticking with thunderbird for now [17:36] yea- a long time [17:37] now busy looking for graphics driver for duel gpu laptop [17:37] its a big move from windows to linux [17:37] has intel hd 4000 and has GT740m Nvidia card - the machine then switches between them [17:38] if you type in the dash additional it should then search for the drivers you need [17:38] also managed to install the msoffice 2010 with playonlinux today! yeah [17:38] you just download office [17:38] yeah looked there, but shows noting [17:39] i was looking around and found this for now, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation [17:39] why do you need specific nvidia drivers [17:39] looks like what i need, downloading now like 220mb size [17:40] cuz its high end gaming card and there is no drivers standard [17:40] do you do gaming [17:42] yes sometimes [17:42] at the moment just using seam for linux and jamming some dota 2 [17:43] steam? [17:43] but poor graphic performance as just running with onboard [17:43] you can try installing nvidia-current [17:44] works well and when you get kernel upgrades you dont need to reinstall as with specific drivers [17:44] yea... http://store.steampowered.com/about/ [17:44] amazing gaming options and works on linux! [17:45] ok cool [17:45] how do i use nvidia-current? [17:45] you got the install command inna noggin yet? [17:45] for steam? [17:45] what do you want to use? it just works [17:46] well install nvidia-current and then get a steam game and see [17:46] ok will try the method im using now, if not will try current [17:46] sudo aptitude install nvidia-current [17:46] it will install nvidia settings as well [17:47] most likely 304 [17:48] http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-319.17-driver [17:48] this looks good [17:48] maybe will install this [17:48] if the bumblebee does not work [17:48] oh you using 64bit? [17:49] yes [17:50] cool [17:52] is hardcore gaming possible on linux? [17:52] with steam ya [17:52] you need to ask the gamers [17:52] haha ok [17:52] not_found you here? [17:53] maybe neil will know [17:53] ok cool [17:53] if anyone knows please share [17:53] i just do basic stuff that doesnt cost [17:53] like if i wanted to play call of duty [17:53] or battlefield [17:54] would that be possible? [17:57] are they games for windows? [17:57] those games in playonlinux should work [18:10] hi theblazehen [18:10] hi! [18:10] I got a better IRC client :D [18:10] what you got now [18:10] weechat :) [18:10] na [18:12] oops.. [18:27] theblazehen what was i supposed to see with that nick [18:28] Kilos: ah yes.. 1 = i, 5 = S [18:28] i dont understand [18:29] im on another drive so dont see what it was [18:29] it was pen 15 - change 1 to i, 5 ro s [18:29] it was pen 15 - change 1 to i, 5 to s * [18:30] sis man [18:30] hehe [18:30] lol :p [18:30] I admit: I'm kinda immature sometimes [18:30] haha [19:04] join ##ipominer [19:48] night all. sleep tight [20:32] hello? === Rynofear is now known as Rynomster