| phillw | hi good people, would some one tell me why the debian installer has been respun, thus causing all server and lubuntu alt-images to be respun? cjwatson As and when you do get time, do give me a poke :) | 01:34 |
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| phillw | I was just about to start out on the server alts. | 01:34 |
| purge | Having issues booting Ubuntu Via USB on my computer. When I try to boot it runs the Ubuntu screen, but then it goes to error message: (initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system, please help :) | 03:45 |
| cjwatson | phillw: We needed to fix bug 1307983, which caused a respin of everything. | 09:17 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1307983 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "System not localized after an OEM or offline installation" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307983 | 09:17 |
| phillw | cjwatson: okies :) I'll get back to testing :) | 13:55 |
| cjwatson | ... but there's another one coming because we didn't quite fix all the cases :-/ | 14:01 |
| phillw | cjwatson: is that for dbian installer (alternate / server images) as well? | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | they contain binary packages from ubiquity, so yes | 14:04 |
| phillw | okies... I'll go do something else while I wait - Thanks for the heads up :) | 14:04 |
| phillw | cjwatson: if you're doing another respin of the world.. can someone cherry pick this low lying fruit... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1307862 | 14:07 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1307105 in linux (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1307862 Kernel install fails due PAE checks" [Low,Triaged] | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | Kernel changes take ages, no | 14:07 |
| phillw | it's the forcepae flag that is missing for the boot :) not the kernel :) | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | Well just put it after "--" on the installer command line | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | Then grub-installer will copy it to the target system | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | So the boot parameters should end with " -- forcepae" | 14:08 |
| phillw | I believe that is what they're doing. Just it was fixed in 'main' but not the low-latency one | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | This isn't something that needs to be done "in" the kernel | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | You can do it when you're booting the image | 14:09 |
| phillw | no major worries... it can be fixed later, just thought it was an easy edit to the grub for low-latency, as per what is in generic? But, as you know... pae flags and me are something of a ongoing nightmare :P | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | You don't understand | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | There is no "grub for low-latency" | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | And no special installer handling for forcepae | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | Nor does there need to be | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | I left a comment on bug 1307105 | 14:10 |
| ubot2 | Launchpad bug 1307105 in linux (Ubuntu) "Kernel install fails due PAE checks" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307105 | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | Nothing needs to be fixed, the people doing the install just need to add the forcepae flag in a different place | 14:11 |
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| phillw | can it be added to the generic release notes, rather than relying on each flavour to remember to flag it up? | 14:16 |
| cjwatson | It's a wiki, feel free | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | Presumably by linking to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE | 14:17 |
| phillw | many thanks. | 15:02 |
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| pmatulis | how can i determine what udebs are available? i want to re-read partition table with partprobe | 17:16 |
| cjwatson | look at the d-i Packages file | 17:18 |
| cjwatson | partprobe isn't available in udeb form though. usually isn't needed since changes done in parted will automatically reread | 17:19 |
| pmatulis | alright, thx | 17:20 |
| phillw | cjwatson: I know the answer is "when they're ready", but any ETA of the respins? :) | 17:44 |
| cjwatson | dunno, they're running right now | 17:45 |
| phillw | kk, thanks | 17:46 |
| cjwatson | hopefully next cycle I'll get the livefs-in-Launchpad work done so that this can all go faster | 17:47 |
| phillw | in the past, the existing images would have a strike through so to let testers know to wait, this does not seem to be in effect this time. I'm not having a dig at anyone, but when testers have spent a couple or few hours doing tests, it is a kicking when a planned respin occurs with them not having been told to go do some thing useful like eat :P | 17:48 |
| cjwatson | doesn't look like I can do that in the UI any more in the case where the rebuilds have been done in bulk on the image master system rather than via the web UI | 17:52 |
| phillw | cjwatson: may be worth raising, just for in case we face this situation again...? | 17:53 |
| phillw | I'm sure such a function is not beyond the capabilities of the team :) | 17:55 |
| cjwatson | I asked Stéphane | 17:56 |
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| cjwatson | phillw: OK, I was just confused by the text of the option having changed - they're disabled now | 18:10 |
| infinity | phillw: To be fair, telling testers to stop testing during a respin is still the wrong answer. | 18:22 |
| infinity | phillw: Tests don't magically all invalidate because a single package changed. | 18:23 |
| infinity | (Yes, the iso.qa results invalidate, but not all your local findings) | 18:23 |
| phillw | infinity: but if a respin is due in a couple of hours, then telling the testers to go eat.. take a break etc. is not too harmful. some testers are on very different time zones and would appreciate knowing that they can have food, take a nap etc. :) As I said to Colin, it is not a rant - just a suggestion as in the past ISO's were struck through when a respin was requested :) | 18:27 |
| phillw | it happens to be food time here.. so I'll be back to testing once the new ISO's are built :) | 18:28 |
| lborda | jwatson, is there a way to tell via preseed to not use precise-updates pocket? or in other words do not update the system ? | 20:06 |
| cjwatson | I'm about to get on a train but I'm pretty sure there are documented things for that in the installation guide | 20:07 |
| zooko | HEy I tried the new installer. It didn't have the FAT parse segfault, but there was a different problem or problems. | 20:08 |
| cjwatson | It's going to be too late to fix for anything before 14.04.1, just to warn you | 20:13 |
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