[03:46] <diddledan> tick.it
[03:46] <diddledan> oops
[03:47] <diddledan> silly wrong window syndrome
[04:50] <mapps> morning all
[05:04] <diddledan> mornin mapps
[05:10] <mapps> morning mate
[05:14] <jussi> morning diddledan, mapps
[05:15] <jussi> wheres MooDoo? I need him to make my morning jokes :P
[05:17] <mapps> no lights work in my room now..desk light went so i used bedsight lamp (had 2 one of them..bulb went months back) and my light above my bed has gone too
[05:17] <mapps> lol
[06:11] <MooDoo> hello all
[06:11] <MooDoo> jussi: I'm here
[06:26] <jussi> MooDoo: you are late!
[06:32] <MooDoo> jussi: yeah bad day yesterday
[06:38] <mapps> :(
[06:41] <nigelb> Mornin'
[06:43] <mapps> morning nigelb
[07:16] <ali1234> what software should i use to sync my android photos on to my computer now that U1 is closing?
[07:16] <MartijnVdS> Google Plus
[07:16] <ali1234> google plus cannot do this
[07:16] <MartijnVdS> ali1234: install Picasa on the PC and it can
[07:16] <ali1234> no
[07:16] <MartijnVdS> yes.
[07:16] <ali1234> software must be open source
[07:16] <MartijnVdS> Android auto-upload to G+, Picasa auto-downloads
[07:17] <MartijnVdS> A new requirement appears!
[07:17] <ali1234> android can't even auto-upload
[07:17] <ali1234> unless you install some extra plugin
[07:17] <MartijnVdS> in that case, attach Android device to PC, drag & drop files to preferred folder
[07:17] <ali1234> no
[07:17] <ali1234> no no no
[07:17] <MartijnVdS> No?
[07:17] <ali1234> that doesn't work properly either
[07:18] <ali1234> neither does bluetooth file transfer
[07:18] <MartijnVdS> drag & drop works fine here
[07:18] <ali1234> drag and drop works
[07:18] <directhex> shotwell? f-spot?
[07:18] <ali1234> the part that doesn't work is the part where you plug it in to the PC
[07:18] <directhex> oh, plugging it in angers you
[07:18] <directhex> well, good luck with that
[07:18] <ali1234> having to do anything at all angers me
[07:18] <MartijnVdS> best to write your own then
[07:19] <ali1234> i should be able to take the photo and have the photo on my computer minutes laters, without doing anything at all
[07:19] <ali1234> that's what U1 does
[07:19] <MartijnVdS> won't U1 be open sourced?
[07:19] <ali1234> supposedly
[07:19] <jussi> ali1234: spideroak
[07:19] <MartijnVdS> well then, problem solve
[07:19] <MartijnVdS> d
[07:19] <ali1234> the U1 android client is broken though
[07:22] <jussi> ali1234: alternately, if it must be open source, owncloud
[07:23] <ali1234> jussi: and what software do i use on android to sync the photos automatically?
[07:23] <jussi> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.owncloud.android
[07:23] <MartijnVdS> pwncloud
[07:25] <czajkowski> aloha
[07:25] <czajkowski> so runing trusty
[07:25] <czajkowski> and chromium seems to have updated
[07:25] <czajkowski> looks rather f'ugly
[07:26] <jussi> czajkowski: in what way?
[07:28] <jussi> ali1234: source for the app is here: https://github.com/owncloud/android
[07:28] <ali1234> thanks
[07:29] <czajkowski> jussi: https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/456333448396169216
[07:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> Morning earthlings
[07:48] <JamesTait> Good morning all; happy Save The Elephant Day! :-D
[07:48] <diplo> Morning all
[08:07] <MooDoo> morning JamesTait diplo TheOpenSourcerer
[08:08] <MartijnVdS> \o MooDoo
[08:09] <MooDoo> hello MartijnVdS :)
[08:19] <JamesTait> MooDoo, o/
[08:21] <MooDoo> :)
[08:42] <popey> welcome back TheOpenSourcerer
[08:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> lo popey
[08:45] <bashrc_> morning
[08:46] <MooDoo> morning bashrc_
[08:46] <diddledan> *yawn*
[08:46] <diddledan> no sleep for the wicked
[08:46] <diddledan> (me)
[08:57] <awilkins> So : Remmina - can't get it to do "shared drives" with Win2k12 server
[08:58] <awilkins> It works with the Windows RDP client
[08:58] <TheOpenSourcerer> What I've been waking up to every morning for the past 10 days: https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-KyC0t2mcxP4/U04y7Qk8hXI/AAAAAAAAPaY/09GsLhFzSto/w1201-h901-no/20140413_170543.jpg
[08:58] <MartijnVdS> TheOpenSourcerer: lots of blue
[08:58] <awilkins> rdesktop does \\tsclient\ folders just fine. But sadly, it doesn't support the new crypto requirements for connecting to Win2k12 server
[08:59] <TheOpenSourcerer> MartijnVdS: Indeed. And warm.
[08:59] <awilkins> With Remmina, I get a \\tsclient server, but it has no shares on it, even if one is configured
[09:38] <dennis__> popey, http://i.imgur.com/UJf8jii.jpg - somehow like this the 9300 number looks prettier, argh! :p
[09:41] <MartijnVdS> dennis__: just pick one... it's not a race for the prettiest number :)
[09:44] <dennis__> it is!! :p
[09:44] <dennis__> I know, I know.
[09:45] <DJones> dennis__: Its a phone number, its not as if you won't change it in a couple of years anyway :)
[09:45] <dennis__> I know, I think I have OSD
[09:46] <dennis__> ODS?
[09:46] <diddledan> on-screen display?
[09:46] <dennis__> obs*
[09:46] <dennis__> obsessive blabla disorder, obd
[09:46] <diddledan> compulsive
[09:46] <dennis__> ah, right.
[09:46] <popey> ooooh www.instructables.com/id/70s-Terminal-PC/
[09:47] <popey> hm, copy and pasting urls in chromium used to get the protocol, now it doesnt
[09:47] <diddledan> popey: that's awesome
[09:47] <diddledan> except it's running XP
[09:51] <jussi> popey: chromium took a huge downhill step this morning (whatever update happened, things broke. lots of them)
[09:51] <popey> yes
[09:51] <popey> horizontal scrolling
[09:51] <popey> font rendering and lots of other things
[09:52] <jussi> popey: that pc is awesome :D
[10:42] <nigelb> 33
[10:42] <nigelb> (gah)
[10:46] <dwatkins> 42
[10:47] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[10:49] <vineeth> Any idea about how to access windows repository(tortoise SVN) from rabbitSVN ?
[10:49] <vineeth> we'r trying to access windows repository(tortoise SVN) from ubuntu localmachine rabbitSVN ?
[10:50] <vineeth> any idea how to do it?
[10:53] <vineeth> Any idea about how to access windows repository(tortoise SVN) from ubuntu ?
[10:54] <vineeth> anyone here ??
[10:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> vineeth: Have you installed svn on Ubuntu?
[10:54] <vineeth> ya we installed rabbitvcs
[10:54] <bigcalm> !wait | vineeth
[10:54] <TheOpenSourcerer> svn co url://to-my-svn-repo
[10:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> I've not heard of rabbitvcs - I just use svn
[10:55] <TheOpenSourcerer> Or git or bzr or whatever.
[10:55] <codecowboy> vineeth why are you private messaging me? Netiquette dictates that you ask before you PM.
[10:56] <vineeth> i'm new here
[10:56] <codecowboy> vineeth ok. So don't do that ;) I also don't know the answer to your question I'm afraid.
[10:56] <MooDoo> vineeth: have a read of this if you're new - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines :)
[10:57] <vineeth> ok thanks
[10:57] <MooDoo> oh and welcome :)
[10:58]  * bigcalm reads it for the 1st time
[11:00] <MooDoo> bigcalm: shhh ;)
[11:27] <awilkins> Windows Server makes me angry
[11:27] <awilkins> Trying to diagnose problems
[11:27] <MooDoo> awilkins: event viewer :p
[11:27] <awilkins> Usually, I'd go and grep the log folder
[11:28] <awilkins> Event Viewer is what is making me angry
[11:28] <awilkins> Is there a "search for text" thing?
[11:29] <awilkins> Aha, a "Find" box
[11:29] <awilkins> It's tiny
[12:17] <dwatkins> Yeah, Google has spoiled us with the idea of everything being searchable ;)
[12:17] <MartijnVdS> Search ALL the things
[12:28] <diplo> bigcalm: you about ?
[12:50] <Myrtti> awwww no Trusty update for me? boo.
[12:54] <asdf_> .
[12:57] <bigcalm> diplo: I am now. Sup?
[13:09] <directhex> http://blog.barisione.org/2014-04/maynard/
[13:12] <bashrc> awilkins: Windows is not really ready for the desktop
[13:13] <bigcalm> directhex: funky
[13:14] <MooDoo> Myrtti: how come?  you not updating baring in mind, it's not released until the 17th
[13:14] <neuro> gotta love omgubuntu
[13:14] <neuro> where no dissent in le comments is permitted :)
[13:16] <awilkins> bashrc, This was a *server*. Went through .. and it's running a font bitmap caching service
[13:17] <awilkins> WHY THE HELL does Windows SERVER run a freakin' FONT CACHE. Sounds like it's trying to be Windows desktop to me.
[13:17] <neuro> don't get me started on windows server
[13:17] <awilkins> I'd really like to stop this one
[13:17] <neuro> it *IS* a windows desktop, it just has MOAR SEARVER SCHTUFF
[13:18] <awilkins> The problem is that it's running a website composed of overwhelmingly static pages... plus a search page
[13:18] <awilkins> The search page depended on a Windows service that is now dead
[13:18] <neuro> could probably do the same on a dinky 128MB ubuntu vm :)
[13:19] <awilkins> The "replacement" is basically ... i) Sharepoint ii) MS SQL iii) SOAP web service
[13:19] <awilkins> IT's a 700MB download
[13:19] <neuro> sharepoint?
[13:19]  * neuro makes cross signs with his fingers
[13:19] <neuro> BEGONE FOUL DEMON
[13:19] <awilkins> Yeah, "MS Search Server" (worst name ever, try searching for that in Google and getting useful results)
[13:19] <awilkins> It's actually some search engine from Sharepoint
[13:19] <neuro> top hit, microsoft search server article on wp
[13:20] <neuro> second hit, download page for Microsoft Search Server 2010 Express on microsoft.com
[13:20] <neuro> you were saying? :)
[13:20] <awilkins> Ok, ok.
[13:20] <awilkins> Try searching for technical detail with that in
[13:20] <neuro> what like installation gudes?
[13:20] <awilkins> Like "replace indexing service with search server in application"
[13:20] <neuro> i see four of them on the first page
[13:21] <awilkins> Anyway... infrastructure team have struggled to get it running including a support call to MS
[13:21] <neuro> msdn query about that on the second hit of "microsoft search server replace in application"
[13:21]  * neuro does a google dance
[13:21] <neuro> eeshk
[13:21] <awilkins> Server is now at 90% RAM consumption
[13:21] <neuro> double eeshk
[13:21] <awilkins> SQL server keeps thrashing CPU
[13:22] <neuro> yeah
[13:22] <neuro> well
[13:22] <awilkins> Event log is full of "Oh dear.." messages
[13:22] <neuro> are you sure it's really 90% full
[13:22] <awilkins> And I've not so far managed to have a basic succesful test of the SOAP query API
[13:22] <neuro> are you looking at the process list or just the performance page on task mgr?
[13:22] <awilkins> TAsk mangler
[13:22] <awilkins> Process list
[13:22] <neuro> ah k
[13:23] <awilkins> But even so, server running like dead greyhound stapled to breeze block
[13:23] <neuro> cos windows will eat ram the same way linux and OS X do for cache
[13:23] <neuro> i really do wonder why people still choose windows for generic tasks like these
[13:23] <awilkins> Very, very, very tempted to just i) rewrite templates that generate web pages to not be ASP flavoured
[13:23] <awilkins> ii) Port search page to Lucene
[13:24] <neuro> hehe
[13:24] <neuro> iii) ???
[13:24] <neuro> iv) Profit!
[13:24] <awilkins> iii) Stick it in a very small Linux Vm
[13:24] <awilkins> Sadly, our IT department won't support Linux VMs
[13:24] <neuro> wow
[13:25] <neuro> are they from the stone ages or something?
[13:25] <neuro> my ops team loves linux
[13:25] <awilkins> They don't have any Linux sysadmins
[13:25] <neuro> then again, I am the ops team
[13:25] <neuro> so ...
[13:25] <neuro> ah right
[13:25] <awilkins> Yeah, the devops here love it too (that's me)
[13:25] <MartijnVdS> Lucene, isn't that Solr now?
[13:26] <awilkins> Name rings a bell
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> https://lucene.apache.org/solr/
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> Solr is a standalone enterprise search server with a REST-like API. You put documents in it (called "indexing") via XML, JSON, CSV or binary over HTTP. You query it via HTTP GET and receive XML, JSON, CSV or binary results.
[13:26] <awilkins> So basically, what I'm trying to do. Only not MS flavoured
[13:26] <neuro> Solr stands on top of Lucene
[13:26] <MartijnVdS> but Java-flavoured
[13:27] <MartijnVdS> so should be x-platform
[13:27] <neuro> ha!
[13:27] <awilkins> I'm a Java dev, daily workload speaking
[13:27] <neuro> we use solr here
[13:27] <neuro> i don't pretend to understand it tho
[13:28] <awilkins> That's an endorsement. Apparently, it's so simple it can be used by those who don't understand it.
[13:29] <neuro> wtf
[13:30] <neuro> i just had one of our franchisees in istanbul call my number
[13:30] <neuro> asking for someone in the office
[13:30] <neuro> when the office is about 400 mi away
[13:39] <Myrtti> MooDoo: got a package called manage-distro-upgrade upgraded
[13:42]  * awilkins does a search for "Services" on Windows server 2k12 and is slightly surprised when the first hit is not the "services" control panel but Internet Information Services.
[13:42] <awilkins> Win2k12 dash - nil points
[13:43] <dwatkins> Can't you just type "services" in the Fisher Price start menu?
[13:43] <awilkins> That's what I did
[13:43] <awilkins> Typed "services" and hit enter
[13:43] <dwatkins> oh dear
[13:43] <awilkins> I got IIS control panel
[13:44] <MooDoo> this is not #speakandspell you know ;)
[13:44] <dwatkins> does the "run" dialogue even still exist in win8/server2k12?
[13:44] <awilkins> https://twitter.com/dr_barnowl/status/456403599484915712
[13:45] <awilkins> #speakandspell
[13:45] <dwatkins> I want a keyboard for my phone like that now.
[13:45] <MooDoo> ha ha ha hah a
[13:46] <awilkins> Wasn't a bad drop either
[13:48] <Myrtti> Maintainer: Canonical Commercial Engineering <commercial-engineering@canonical.com>
[13:49] <Myrtti> ;___;
[13:49] <diddledan> Myrtti: that's code for "we reserve the right to charge you" :-p
[13:50] <Myrtti> no, I think that's the code for "we got paid by the suppliers of your hardware to make sure you don't get shot on your foot with release upgrade"
[13:53] <Myrtti> that is, Dell.
[14:07] <Myrtti> I think I got a Chrome update and now Google Hangouts doesn't work at all :-(
[14:07] <Myrtti> stupid Google
[14:08] <awilkins> Well, I hope they're trying to fix the "eats loads of CPU time" thing I've been seeing
[14:12] <popey> yeah, i had that, had to kill all my chromium processes
[14:23] <czajkowski> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[14:23] <czajkowski> following this to get my flashing working again
[14:23] <czajkowski> and diddly squat, anyone else having issues today
[14:23] <dwatkins> flashing, czajkowski?
[14:23] <czajkowski> still get please isntall the plugin.  I HAVE!
[14:23] <czajkowski> dwatkins: aye
[14:23] <dwatkins> on all sites which need flash?
[14:24] <dwatkins> is the plugin present and enabled in chrome://plugins ?
[14:30] <foobarry> my edge scroll is slow...how would i increase speed of scrolling>
[14:32] <Myrtti> czajkowski: I get that with Google Hangouts plugin
[14:39] <SuperMatt> has anywhere been decided upon for tomorrow?
[14:40] <SuperMatt> I'll be there in one of my racker shirts, I think
[14:58] <czajkowski> yeah hangouts suits
[14:58] <czajkowski> works
[14:58] <czajkowski> but videos to watch don't
[14:58] <foobarry> my laptop is "ubuntu certified" but apparently the touchpad support is a fail
[15:00] <bashrc> maybe one day everything will be webm
[15:00] <foobarry> who has the same laptop? directhex ?
[15:00] <directhex> ?
[15:00] <foobarry> e7440
[15:00] <directhex> i got one for a co-worker
[15:00] <foobarry> ah
[15:00] <foobarry> touchpad seems unconfigurable and slow and jerky
[15:01] <foobarry> theres a bug about it but new kernel still bad
[15:01] <foobarry> 3.14
[15:04] <czajkowski> exir
[15:06] <czajkowski> bleugh
[15:06] <directhex> foobarry, that's the kind of thing i'd notice only really after extended use, and i only had it during installation
[15:11] <foobarry> yeah. no worries directhex . i thought u owned it :D
[15:34] <mapps> wow
[15:34] <mapps> its such a nice day outside
[15:34] <directhex> and i'm in an air conditioned office
[15:36] <awilkins> MS Search Server : 2 days and a call to MS support and it still doesn't work (despite sitting on my server guzzling 50% of the CPU)
[15:36] <awilkins> Apache Solr : 1h56m and I have a working instance on my devops box.
[15:36] <awilkins> Since I'll have to address either via REST API calls in VBScript, I know which one wins
[15:45] <mapps> at least the aircon works i take it directhex :)
[15:45] <mapps> at work they always say theyll fix it..but yea
[17:25] <neuro> i've just added a polite version of "RECRUITERS: BUGGER OFF" at the top of my linkedin profile
[17:25] <neuro> getting tired of random connection requests and "ooh, job" messages when i'm quite happy where I am
[17:25] <neuro> 16:36 <awilkins> Apache Solr : 1h56m and I have a working instance on my devops box.
[17:26] <neuro> awilkins: props dude :)
[17:26] <awilkins> neuro, Could do it again in 10 mins... it's working out which folders to chown and where to shove the config that takes the time.
[17:26] <neuro> aye
[17:26] <awilkins> Now I just need to work out how to shove documents into it
[17:26] <neuro> i went looking for debs, gave up in the end
[17:27] <awilkins> There's a package but it uses tomcat6
[17:27] <awilkins> Which is a shame given that the server is running 6
[17:27] <awilkins> oops 7
[17:27] <DJones> neuro: linkedin are spammers of the worst kind, somebody you don't know can submit your email address to their database & you get a crapton of spam from them
[17:27] <awilkins> Will probably use the packed in Jetty for the Windows box it's destined for
[17:28] <awilkins> Even with the Java install it will be smaller and lighter than running SQL frickin' Server on it
[17:28] <awilkins> And it's soo  much easier to query
[17:28] <awilkins> URL instead of a big fat SOAP cake
[17:30] <awilkins> Next I may look at expunging the ASP classic script from these pages, then it won't need Windows at all
[17:32] <MartijnVdS> you're a hero :)
[17:33] <awilkins> They're basically static pages
[17:33] <awilkins> The ASP is there for 2 reasons
[17:33] <awilkins> i) Someone can't configure web servers properly, so all the paths are relative not absolute
[17:33] <awilkins> ii) The search page
[17:34] <awilkins> Just about to replace the call from the search page to MS Indexing Service (because it's gone in Win2k12 server)
[17:34] <awilkins> MS Search Server is a bust. 700MB download, eats resources like sweeties, takes days to configure, and still doesn't work.
[17:35] <awilkins> I mean, the thing is essentially a SharePoint installation (!)
[17:35] <awilkins> I _hate_ SharePoint
[17:35] <MooDoo> AlanBell: have i missed the ircc meeting?
[17:36] <MooDoo> ignore that, it's 7pm not 6
[18:18] <MooDoo> daftykins: you causing trouble in #ubuntu again ;)
[18:19] <daftykins> never trouble, just following policy
[18:19] <daftykins> sadly people tend to get on the defensive
[18:19] <MooDoo> i know just teasing :D
[19:18] <foobarry> was this video inspired by UUPC? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTK0mpniqPw#t=48
[19:20] <foobarry> even soudns like some of the presenters
[19:31] <shauno> uupc has ninjas now?
[19:32] <foobarry> lol @ the virgin email storm
[19:32] <foobarry> sent to all virgin customers
[19:32] <foobarry> on a particular mial list
[19:33] <foobarry> which seems to allow anyone to reply all