[00:02] <diego_diego> In case anyone cares, I got a wan card to work on a lenovo carbon x1. i.e. I was able to get a mobile data sim card, pay att for a mobile data plan,  and surprisingly things worked: was able to browse the web without wifi after some fiddling.
[00:04] <ixio2> I manually added www-data to /etc/passwd and /etc/group and changed httpd.conf to use those accounts and groups and now my chrooted apache works
[00:04] <Loshki> ixio2: brilliant. Score one (more) for Jordan_U...
[00:04] <diego_diego> Jordan_U: thanks for the pointer will look for a bit. This putting together a machine is kind of time consuming megh I've been trying to use newegg and look through their diy kits
[00:05] <C6R> I have a hidden file called "." . I figured out how to view it using ls -a or ls -a | less . Now how do I cd into the hidden file "." ?
[00:06] <zenlike> C6R:  That's not a hidden file, that's your current directory
[00:07] <spidernet> C6R: it is not a hidden file, it is the same as the directory u are working in..
[00:07] <C6R> same for .. ?
[00:07] <zenlike> .. is the next directory up
[00:07] <spidernet> C6R: no ..
[00:07] <C6R> Wow, *facepalm
[00:07] <C6R> my bad lol
[00:07] <zenlike> so if you are in /foo/bar . is /foo/bar and .. is foo
[00:07] <axizor> are there irc commands to check if a user on freenode is online?
[00:07] <C6R> yea foobar
[00:08] <bazhang> axizor, /msg nickserv info nick  or /whois nick
[00:08] <bprompt> axizor:   /whois nick
[00:08] <axizor> ty ^^
[00:10] <just4info> spidernet, looks good, anyways i just found out that there is a space at the second contact. would it be possible to delete everything but the last word per line?
[00:10] <Loshki> diego_diego: depending on the details of your build, since you're not gaming, built-in intel video may all you need. Spend the difference on more cpu/memory/fancy case
[00:10] <just4info> since the last word seems to always be the link
[00:11] <spidernet> just4info: please send me an info on hw it looks lyk
[00:11] <HiImChris> is there any reason my wireless would just stop working between 12.04 and 13.10?
[00:12] <spidernet> HiImChris: no
[00:13] <radiocv2> hi all, I want to install perl 5.14.2 in xubuntu. what i need to do? compile it by hand or use some libs to finally can use youtube-viewer from Trizen GitHub rep. I ask myself why is not integrated in ubuntu repositories.
[00:13] <HiImChris> lovely because mine did
[00:13] <just4info> spidernet, alright, let me upload it, and thanks again for your time, i realy appreciate it
[00:14] <fballem> New to IRC
[00:14] <fballem> may I ask what this would be used for?
[00:14] <bazhang> fballem, this channel is for ubuntu support
[00:15] <fballem> thanks bazhang
[00:15] <bazhang> fballem, chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:15] <fballem> is there anything specific that we are talking about?
[00:15] <bazhang> ubuntu support
[00:15] <Loshki> HiImChris: if it broke after an upgrade I can understand your suspicion. You could boot the old 12.04 in 'try without installing' mode and see if magically fixes the problem...
[00:16] <fballem> so I would type #ubuntu-offtopic and that is where I would go?
[00:17] <fballem> #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:17] <bazhang>  /join #channel
[00:18] <HiImChris> that's what i did and it worked
[00:18] <HiImChris> so i dont know if it's kernel or driver related
[00:18] <Bray90820> So when i run "ffmpeg -i VIDEOFILE -acodec libmp3lame -metadata TITLE="Name of Song" OUTPUTFILE.mp3" it is telling me "Output file #0 does not contain any stream"
[00:18] <hucasys> hey
[00:18] <splud> Hopefully quick question here.  Have 13.10 desktop version, running as a VM under VirtualBox.  I want to mount the home directory of the user within the VM from a shared folder on the host.  This much works, in fstab, etc.  However, if I attempt to login as that user, the GUI flashes away to black, then returns to the login screen...  If I comment out the fstab line that defines the mount, the user can log in from the GUI.  With or without the m
[00:18] <splud> I can still log in as myself and ssh to that user (or ssh from another host).
[00:19] <just4info_> spidernet, sorry for not being clear at the first place
[00:19] <hucasys> I have Inkscape installed on 13.10 , my menus are not working, all the options appear as if disabled, any clues?
[00:19] <hucasys> pm if you know , thanx
[00:20] <Jordan_U> !screenshot | hucasys
[00:20] <Jordan_U> hucasys: You can also use gnome-screenshot to take a screenshot after a given delay, which may be needed to capture menus.
[00:21] <hucasys> k, sure
[00:21] <hucasys> I'll be back.....
[00:26] <hucasys> ok here's the snapshot of my inkscape >> http://imagebin.org/305864
[00:28] <fballem> May I ask a question about the menus in 14.04?
[00:28] <Bray90820> So when i run "ffmpeg -i VIDEOFILE -acodec libmp3lame -metadata TITLE="Name of Song" OUTPUTFILE.mp3" it is telling me "Output file #0 does not contain any stream"
[00:29] <bazhang> try #ffmpeg Bray90820
[00:31] <Bray90820> bazhang: thanks
[00:31] <hucasys> if anyone has any clues about what's going on with my inkscape I'd appreciate it, cheers
[00:33] <Jordan_U> hucasys: I don't have any ideas, but #inkscape might.
[00:35] <C6R> this is in ssh on a wargame. what is happening here? the challenge relates to human readable but i've finally found out how to view a file with a - at the beginning
[00:35] <C6R> http://imagebin.org/305866
[00:36] <shunya_chakra> hi!
[00:36] <codepython777> is there a way to tell ssh to port forward authenticate but not encrypt the connection after auth?
[00:37] <hucasys> ok, thanks Jordan_U
[00:37] <xisiqomelir> Hi, can I get some recommendations for an Ubuntu One replacement?
[00:37] <xisiqomelir> Preferably something with auto-sync
[00:38] <psusi> xisiqomelir, google drive?  dropbox?
[00:38] <xisiqomelir> Does Gdrive have desktop integration? I thought it was web-only
[00:38] <xisiqomelir> I've never tried dropbox
[00:38] <psusi> dunno... never had a need for it
[00:40] <hucasys> gdrive has desktop at least in windows
[00:41] <cuddylier> What does it mean when 'iotop' says this? http://pastie.org/private/jkds0rghf5byfb7qhq9o6w
[00:43] <C6R> Is there a way to tell if a file is human readable or not?
[00:45] <psusi> C6R, yea.. look at it and see... or the file program will tell you what a file contains
[00:46] <Mary77> Hello! I need to set up a connection for OpenVPN right after I install Ubuntu. Is that possible/easy? :)
[00:46] <C6R> Thanks, just discorvered the file command a while back but forgot about it. because i needed to learn how to open a file starting with a -
[00:46] <C6R> i probably just need to take a break..
[00:48] <Guest2765> Can someone help me with something real quick
[00:48] <Mary77> Guys? Does anyone know?
[00:48] <cuddylier> What does it mean when 'iotop' says this? http://pastie.org/private/jkds0rghf5byfb7qhq9o6w
[00:48] <Guest2765> It concerns date and time settings
[00:48] <Beldar> !details > Guest2765
[00:49] <drfoo_> Guest2765: try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenVPN
[00:49] <Guest2765> I live in Texas so when I select timezone which would I do? I do not see a America/Texas option
[00:50] <Beldar> Guest2765, This on install?
[00:51] <Guest2765> No I have already installed. Also I have it set to keep sync with internet servers but it still is wrong time
[00:51] <Guest2765> I have time zone set to America/Denver
[00:51] <viccuad> Hi, I'm trying the Ubuntu Gnome 13.10 install and it hangs in the 2nd step of the GUI. /var/log/installer/debug does not say anything weird. Any idea why I can't install it? thanks in advance
[00:51] <Mary77> Not a single answer... ;(
[00:51] <Guest2765> Mary77, install Gentoo
[00:53] <Mary77> Guest2765: No.
[00:53] <splud> US/Central or US/Mountain, or whatever zone you're in - surely you know the moniker of your local timezone?
[00:54] <Mary77> Only complete idiots in here. Nice "community", Ubuntu. :/
[00:55] <cuddylier> is it normal for [flush-8:0]
[00:55] <cuddylier>  to be using 99% of my IO?
[00:56] <viccuad> cuddylier: flush, the bittorent client?
[00:56] <cuddylier> Not sure, I didn't install any bittorrent client.
[00:57] <cuddylier> my IO and box load just both shot up randomly,
[00:57] <viccuad> weird
[00:57] <cuddylier> And that showed top of 'iotop'
[00:57] <cuddylier> As well as rsyslogd -c5
[00:57] <cuddylier> Currently using 99%
[00:58] <viccuad> dunno
[00:58] <viccuad> maybe is legit
[00:58] <psusi> do you have something spewing tons of junk to your syslog?
[00:58] <cuddylier> I'll check..
[00:58] <rww> cuddylier: that's a kernel thing, not a userland program
[00:59] <cuddylier> My IO just seems really messed, I wonder if one of the drives is dying, they're in RAID 1
[00:59] <cuddylier> Software RAID 1 I should say
[00:59] <cuddylier> Could that be a possibility?
[00:59] <viccuad> that sounds dangerous
[00:59] <bildz> 19:58 < bildz> so I have an HP Probook 4540s with 16 GB of ram.  SSD on my main drive and a HD Caddy with a 750GB drive.  In windows 8, I hear an occasional drive click and a report of errors, but in Ubuntu, i never hear the click and the drive performs fine.  Anyone seen this behavior before?
[01:00] <psusi> well if syslog is generating a lot of IO, that should be a ton of stuff going to syslog... take a look
[01:00] <viccuad> cuddylier: for the raid, see the output of cat /proc/mdstat
[01:00] <splud> Uhm, windows is sitting on a bad spot, and Linux isn't ?
[01:00] <bildz> psusi: yeah thats not a bad idea
[01:00] <rww> cuddylier: specifically, flush is the process that copies stuff from memory to disk after it's been changed (cached files)
[01:00] <viccuad> cuddylier: or sudo mdadm --query --detail /dev/md1
[01:00] <bildz> splud, its a secondary drive used for data
[01:00] <cuddylier> sudo: /proc/mdstat: command not found
[01:00] <cuddylier> I tried without sudo and it said no perms with root account
[01:00] <splud> You might run dd and read the entire disk and see if Linux decides to click  when it runs through the Windows partition...
[01:01] <psusi> cuddylier, you want cat /proc/mdstat
[01:01] <psusi> who said anything about a windows partition?
[01:01] <cuddylier> Okay
[01:01] <bildz> splud:  /dev/sdb1 is all NTFS
[01:01] <viccuad> cuddylier: sudo cat /proc/mdstat, you are seeing a file , you forgot the cat
[01:01] <psusi> ohh, right... two different conversations ;)
[01:01] <cuddylier> Personalities :
[01:01] <cuddylier> unused devices: <none>
[01:01] <psusi> don't need sudo to cat /proc/mdstat
[01:02] <psusi> cuddylier, then you don't seem to have a software raid
[01:02] <cuddylier> Ah, I think it's hardware raid on this box actually
[01:02] <splud> I'm still having issues logging in with a shared homedir mount.
[01:02] <cuddylier> Forgot about that..
[01:02] <splud> Rather, only if logging in via the GUI.  can ssh fine.
[01:03] <cuddylier> Any other suggestions if it has hardware RAID 1?
[01:04] <viccuad> pray that the controller hasn't gone nuts
[01:04] <Cheekio> Any pros on getting a Quadro K1100M working on Ubuntu 13.10?
[01:04] <viccuad> buying the same exact controller so you can just plug it in and the raid keeps working is tricky
[01:04] <viccuad> always go software controller, or buy a couple
[01:05] <Cheekio> Installing nvidida-current and rebooting yields a completely normal login screen, and then after login just a completely black screen.
[01:05] <psusi> cuddylier, does it show up as /dev/sd[abcwhatever] or /dev/mapper/blahblah?
[01:06] <psusi> at any rate, no, it is very unlikely that raid has anythign to do with it.. just check /var/log/syslog
[01:06] <cuddylier> psusi: Does what show up as that?
[01:06] <psusi> cuddylier, the raid
[01:06] <cuddylier> psusi: 'df' outputs /dev/sda5
[01:06] <cuddylier> As the drive
[01:07] <psusi> then you'd need to figure out what kind of raid controller it is to find out how to check its status or control it... but again, this has nothing to do with syslogd issuing a lot of io
[01:11] <cuddylier> hmm I think I fixed syslog issue but IO isn't any better
[01:11] <k1mmyyy> hi guys i have what's probably a really simple problem -- my sound was working before and i think i messed up something with pulseaudio and now it's not working
[01:11] <k1mmyyy> the strange thing is that it works if i start qjackctl and use music programs like ardour
[01:12] <k1mmyyy> but not if i just use vlc or try speaker-test
[01:12] <C6R> du -a -b displays all files and sizes in current directory. is there a way to specify (in bytes) a file i
[01:12] <C6R> i'm looking for. For convenience
[01:13] <viccuad> k1mmyyy: sudo service pulseaudio restart ?
[01:13] <k1mmyyy> viccuad, ok gimme a min
[01:13] <viccuad> it will not work, pulseaudio is configured per usser sessions
[01:13] <viccuad> have you tried turning it off and on again?
[01:17] <NastyNaz> I can no longer accept remote mysql connections (despite it working in the past). A port scan shows port 3306 isn't open. How do I open it? so far I've tried ptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 3306 -j ACCEPT and it doesnt work
[01:19] <psusi> cuddylier, what exactly do you mean io isn't any better?
[01:20] <cuddylier> Hi
[01:20] <cuddylier> The IO is still hitting the roof
[01:20] <cuddylier> Causing the whole box to just be unresponsive and load high, 40
[01:20] <cuddylier> The actual processes are using little to no processing power
[01:21] <psusi> cuddylier, did you check iotop?
[01:21] <cuddylier> Yes, that's what I have been checking all along.
[01:21] <psusi> so what's doing the io?
[01:24] <cuddylier> psusi: [flush-8:0]
[01:27] <Reborn> hola
[01:33] <tomjack> #ubuntu-cn
[01:43] <psusi> cuddylier, and nothing else is generating much io?
[01:43] <cuddylier> I restarted a lot of java processes and the IO has calmed a lot down so it's weird.
[01:43] <cuddylier> Load is now 3 instead of 45
[01:45] <psusi> cuddylier, maybe they were each dirtying a small bit of cache so they didn't show up, until flush kicked in to write it all out?
[01:45] <cuddylier> Maybe...
[01:45] <cuddylier> It's strange as it's the only node it happens on out of my 19
[01:45] <psusi> what was the aggragate write throughput?  was it very high?
[01:46] <cuddylier> On iotop it was only ever around 700kb/s
[01:46] <cuddylier> So not even high
[01:46] <psusi> could you have had a lot of different processes all writing numerous small files?
[01:46] <cuddylier> They would have been writing lots of small files yes
[01:46] <psusi> so they made a lot of dirty cache pages, that flush got to write out, and they were scatterd all over hell and back so the disk had to seek a lot?
[01:46] <cuddylier> Possibly
[01:47] <cuddylier> I guess there is no way to prevent that apart from getting a SSD
[01:47] <psusi> or fix your application so it isn't writing a ton of small files ;)
[01:47] <pitchfork> guys, I just wanted to say this. I'm learning linux and I accidentaly fucked up my computer completely. I have never seen such shit in my life, I mean wow, nothing of value was lost but a lesson was learned.shit is powerfull
[01:48] <IdleOne> pitchfork: We feel your pain but please keep the language clean.
[01:48] <pitchfork> IdleOne: I sure will, my apologies
[01:49] <Bashing-om> pitchfork: It's linux, with time, effort and a liveDVD, it is fixable.
[01:50] <pitchfork> it sure is, I'm already on it
[01:51] <Bashing-om> pitchfork: That's the spirit, break it, fix it , learn it ... we are here to help.
[01:51] <pitchfork> Bashing-om: :)
[01:54] <person33> hey I need help I have xubuntu and for some reason the WifI icon on the top right of the screen is gone and I can't get the WiFi to come back up and this message keeps popping up saying that my wireless has been disabled or something can someone please help me fix this?
[01:56] <psusi> cuddylier, what filesystem is this on?  ext4?
[01:56] <cuddylier> Yes
[01:57] <ary29> please tell me about ubuntu 14
[02:00] <xangua> !14.04 | ary29
[02:01] <person3833>  hey I need help I have xubuntu and for some reason the WifI icon on the top right of the screen is gone and I can't get the WiFi to come back up and this message keeps popping up saying that my wireless has been disabled or something can someone please help me fix this?
[02:03] <person3833>  hey I need help I have xubuntu and for some reason the WifI icon on the top right of the screen is gone and I can't get the WiFi to come back up and this message keeps popping up saying that my wireless has been disabled or something can someone please help me fix this?
[02:03] <johndropper> Yo
[02:03] <person3833> Hi
[02:04] <johndropper> How's it going?
[02:04] <person3833> Alright I need help with a technical problem
[02:04] <johndropper> Ubuntu server or cent OS for web dev?
[02:04] <johndropper> What's up?
[02:04] <person3833> I'll paste it again
[02:04] <johndropper> Ok
[02:04] <person3833>  hey I need help I have xubuntu and for some reason the WifI icon on the top right of the screen is gone and I can't get the WiFi to come back up and this message keeps popping up saying that my wireless has been disabled or something can someone please help me fix this?
[02:05] <johndropper> Hmmm one sec
[02:05] <person3833> Not disabled but disconnected or something I have no idea
[02:06] <person3833> I went to bios and made sure everything's enabled also but the WiFi isn't on any settings or anything
[02:08] <SuperLag> pitchfork: good stuff, that Linux. This is an excellent community to learn from.
[02:09] <johndropper> I would open terminal and use the follow command. sudo ifconfig
[02:09] <johndropper> You will then see your wireless adaptor
[02:09] <person3833> I did it
[02:09] <johndropper> Ie: wlan0 or wlan1
[02:09] <johndropper> Then type
[02:10] <pitchfork> SuperLag: I'll sure stay around
[02:10] <johndropper> Sudo ifdown wlan0 or whatever your wireless is
[02:10] <johndropper> Then
[02:10] <person3833> Why does it say ethernet
[02:11] <person3833> It isn't saying my wireless card
[02:11] <johndropper> Sudo ifup wlan0
[02:11] <johndropper> So you have no card showing up?
[02:12] <person3833> It says ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[02:12] <johndropper> ?
[02:12] <johndropper> Have you rebooted this system?
[02:12] <person3833> And no but it shows up in my system info or whatever
[02:12] <person3833> Yes I have many times
[02:12] <johndropper> Hmmm hang on
[02:13] <saegeoff> hello everyone
[02:13] <person3833> In system info it says my WiFi card is
[02:14] <person3833> Intel Corp pro/wireless 2200bg [Calexico2] network connection (Rev 05)
[02:15] <johndropper> Did you try ifup?
[02:15] <person3833> Subsystem: Intel Corp dell b130 laptop integrated wlan
[02:15] <person3833> Ifup?
[02:15] <johndropper> Yes sudo ifup wlan0
[02:16] <person3833> 1sec
[02:16] <ax9> 14.04 is LTS?
[02:16] <person3833> Yes I did
[02:16] <person3833> When I enter that it says
[02:16] <linuxuz3r> ax9 yes
[02:17] <person3833> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0
[02:17] <johndropper> Sooty that's a rasbian thing
[02:17] <person3833> What does that mean
[02:17] <johndropper> Are you using sudo?
[02:17] <person3833> Yes
[02:17] <johndropper> Ok one sec
[02:18] <johndropper> Type
[02:18] <johndropper> Exit out please and restart terminal
[02:18] <person3833> Ok
[02:18] <person3833> Now what
[02:18] <johndropper> The. Type sudo cd/
[02:19] <johndropper> Cd /
[02:19] <person3833> It says command not found?
[02:19] <johndropper> Then type sudo ifconfig wlan0 down
[02:19] <johndropper> Sudo cd /?
[02:20] <saegeoff> john, you cannot sudo cd /
[02:20] <person3833> Error while getting interface flags: no such device
[02:20] <johndropper> Ok it worked for me
[02:20] <ax9> Guys, what is the name of Chromium apt-get package?
[02:20] <johndropper> But just do cd /
[02:21] <ax9> sudo apt-get install chromium?
[02:21] <person3833> Nothing happens wheen I type that
[02:21] <trism> ax9: chromium-browser
[02:21] <ax9> Thanks.
[02:22] <johndropper> Ok just type this sudo -a
[02:22] <johndropper> Shoot
[02:22] <johndropper> -s
[02:22] <johndropper> Sudo -s
[02:22] <saegeoff> person, doing cd / switched you into the root
[02:22] <ax9> How to use a custom DNS in Ubuntu? I wanna DHCP for everything, except DNS.
[02:22] <saegeoff> if you need sudo to cd, then you need to do: sudo -i, it will take you into interactive mode
[02:22] <person3833> It said command not found
[02:23] <saegeoff> person
[02:23] <saegeoff> just do
[02:23] <saegeoff> sudo -i
[02:23] <saegeoff> enter your password if necessary
[02:23] <saegeoff> then cd /
[02:23] <person3833> Ok
[02:23] <saegeoff> there you go
[02:23] <person3833> Now what
[02:23] <saegeoff> i have no idea what you guys are doing
[02:23] <saegeoff> just offered the help with the cd issue
[02:23] <saegeoff> lol
[02:23] <johndropper> Ok are you root now?
[02:23] <person3833> I'm trying to get my WiFi to work again
[02:23] <person3833> And yes
[02:24] <johndropper> Ok type this
[02:24] <person3833> I am in root
[02:24] <saegeoff> person, it should say
[02:24] <johndropper> Ifconfig wlan0 down
[02:24] <saegeoff> root@pc:/#
[02:24] <person3833> No it says ububtu
[02:24] <saegeoff> the first word is the user, second is the computer name, and the / is root
[02:24] <person3833> Not pc
[02:24] <saegeoff> that is fine
[02:24] <gshmu> how to writer string to clipboard
[02:24] <gshmu> system Ubuntu 12.04
[02:24] <gshmu> python 3.4
[02:25] <saegeoff> that is your computer name
[02:25] <saegeoff> i put pc as generic
[02:25] <johndropper> Person type ifconfig wlan0 down
[02:25] <person3833> Ok
[02:25] <johndropper> Then type ifconfig wlan0 up
[02:25] <person3833> It doesn't work
[02:26] <saegeoff> person, try
[02:26] <johndropper> Well I tried
[02:26] <saegeoff> ip link set wlan0 up
[02:26] <johndropper> Lol sorry I could help if I was there
[02:26] <person3833> Error while getting interface flags no such device
[02:26] <person3833> That's what it says
[02:26] <person3833> Lol
[02:26] <person3833> I'm on my phone cause I can't get my laptop to work
[02:27] <person3833> And my battery's about to die
[02:27] <person3833> Got to find my charger
[02:27] <saegeoff> ok, person, type
[02:27] <johndropper> Do just ifconfig and paste what you see
[02:27] <saegeoff> ip link show
[02:27] <person3833> Hold on wait
[02:27] <saegeoff> you should see 1: and 2: and others if you have more
[02:27] <person3833> I need to find my charger before my battery died
[02:28] <saegeoff> you would need to find your charger before it died but if it died, how is it still working
[02:28] <johndropper> Good luck person3833
[02:28] <m1ndeater> How do I turn off a flag for a command? Ie. $ mycommand -f false
[02:28] <saegeoff> m1ndeater, you just don't specify the flag
[02:28] <johndropper> Sounds like saegeoff has got you covered like a jimmy hat
[02:28] <person3833> OK I'm back
[02:28] <saegeoff> john, i really have no idea how to help him
[02:29] <johndropper> I'm here
[02:29] <m1ndeater> @saegeoff in this situation the flag is being set by a default value elsewhere, so I’d like to specifically turn it off
[02:29] <johndropper> person3833: Private message me please
[02:29] <person3833> Ok
[02:29] <person3833> How do I do that on mobile
[02:29] <saegeoff> m1ndeater, you mean with an environment variable
[02:29] <iio7> I am messing around with dovecot, anyone who knows what this means? "dovecot: lda: Error: userdb lookup(foo@bar.com)"
[02:29] <saegeoff> person, john, do you guys want to join another room?
[02:29] <saegeoff> I can come in
[02:29] <m1ndeater> it’s being set with an .opts file
[02:29] <person3833> Nvm
[02:29] <m1ndeater> there’s no way to negate a flag?
[02:29] <saegeoff> person, john, join ##ubuntuhelp123
[02:31] <saegeoff> m1ndeater, I am not sure
[02:31] <linman24> is there a package out there to improve mouse performance?
[02:31] <m1ndeater> thanks
[02:31] <saegeoff> m1deater, I think it depends on the app you are using
[02:31] <linman24> windows 7 seems to work real well
[02:32] <saegeoff> linman, are you using a laptop that has this problem?
[02:32] <linman24> yes thinkpad
[02:32] <saegeoff> i use a thinkpad also
[02:32] <linman24> but i'm using a logitech mouose
[02:33] <saegeoff> ok
[02:33] <saegeoff> is it USB?
[02:33] <linman24> yeah
[02:33] <saegeoff> have you played with the mouse settings?
[02:34] <linman24> yeah. it is kind of glitchy and doesn't feel accurate
[02:34] <saegeoff> linman, how does the touchpad perform?
[02:34] <Kicksledkid> Hey, question for you all. My laptop is a dell latitude with a intel core i5. the same as my iMac. but when I play minecraft at the same settings on my laptop, I get a lot of fps lag. any ideas as to why?
[02:35] <saegeoff> kicksledkid, is that an ubuntu related question?
[02:35] <zam> how do you stop iptables from loading at boot on ubuntu 12.04? i
[02:35] <Kicksledkid> yes, I sort of, no probably not
[02:35] <saegeoff> zam, you remove linux... lol
[02:35] <linman24> saegeoff: it does ok. still kind of slow. lacks the windows/mac refinement
[02:35] <saegeoff> zam, i am sure you can do it.  do you have custom filters you want to ignore?
[02:36] <saegeoff> linman, how old is your laptop
[02:36] <zam> nah just want to turn it off. im looking for something like chkconfig iptables off saegeoff
[02:36] <saegeoff> kicksledkid, this isn't the proper room for that question
[02:36] <zam> i did some research it appears ubuntu uses ufw? is this the same thing and if it is, how can i stop it from starting at boot?
[02:36] <linman24> probably 2012/2011. it is 8gb ram. decent laptop
[02:36] <saegeoff> zam, try ufw disable
[02:37] <saegeoff> linman, seems like a problem.  the mouse should be just as fluid as windows
[02:37] <zam> saegeoff: that worked perfectly. at least it claims it did. "Firewall stopped and disabled on system startup" thanks man
[02:38] <saegeoff> zam, I am not sure if that will remove any custom things that were added to iptables.  I don't edit that directly
[02:38] <saegeoff> zam, just give it a shot, reboot and come back if you still have the problem
[02:39] <zam> it's a customer's VM ;) it's up to him to reboot. he kept locking himself out by messing with iptables cos it was set to start at boot. we've flushed the rules like 3 times now to let him back in
[02:39] <saegeoff> zam, tell him not to do that
[02:39] <saegeoff> lol
[02:40] <saegeoff> zam, if I have a web facing box, I will use ufw and only enable important ports, like ssh or http(s)
[02:40] <saegeoff> zam, it is good to block all ports except the ones you need.
[02:41] <saegeoff> linman, is your machine dual booted?
[02:41] <zam> saegeoff: we do that by default. we're mostly centos based and all our automated stuff and templates are with centos. customers that choose ubuntu or debian are supposed to be able to do things on their own , but whaddaya know.
[02:41] <linman24> yeah it is
[02:42] <saegeoff> zam, I've been there with customers... they are generally clueless!
[02:42] <saegeoff> linman, do you have all the latest updates and do you update often?
[02:43] <linman24> yeah
[02:43] <unclescratchie> just got a movie on cd,  vlc and movie player will not play it    help please
[02:44] <saegeoff> unclescratchie, is the movie a torrent?
[02:44] <saegeoff> unclescratchie, i should say is it a downloaded movie?
[02:45] <unclescratchie> saegoff:  no,  got at walmart,  romancing the stone,   vob     will not play
[02:45] <person353> Hey John or whoever I was talking to are you here
[02:45] <saegeoff> unclescratchie, try: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[02:45] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras (???).
[02:46] <person353> Saegeoff who was that guy I was taking to
[02:46] <unclescratchie> hang on,  tried,   did not work,  will try again
[02:46] <person353> I got disconnec4ed
[02:46] <saegeoff> person, his name was John
[02:46] <person353> John are you here
[02:47] <person353> God I hate using my phone for this
[02:47] <unclescratchie>  Unable to locate package ununtu-restricted-extras
[02:47] <saegeoff> person, can you plug your laptop in with an ethernet cable?
[02:47] <saegeoff> unclescratchie, please read that link I sent you
[02:47] <person353> Yes but if I do I'll get disconnected from here
[02:47] <unclescratchie> crap.  sorry  spelld wrong,,   let me try again..............so sorry
[02:48] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: Then check and enable your sources in USC .
[02:48] <person353> I have to unplug it from my router so I'll loose my WiFi
[02:48] <purge> hello everyone, I'm back at it!  I'm having trouble booting Ubuntu via USB. I've tried every instruction I could find and it's still not working. but I understand that it's possible, can someone help?
[02:48] <saegeoff> person, why cant you plug a wire from your laptop into your router?
[02:48] <person353> Idk why but I can't connect to irc from my phones cellular network
[02:48] <saegeoff> purge, how did you put ubuntu on the USB?
[02:48] <person353> I'm in this on my phone
[02:49] <person353> Ugh
[02:49] <saegeoff> person, a router should allow multiple devices to connect at the same time!
[02:49] <person353> I said I can but then I won't be able to talk to any of you
[02:49] <saegeoff> person, that doesn't make sense to me
[02:49] <person353> I can't there's only 1 ether net Cable
[02:49] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  how do I  check USC........
[02:49] <purge> saegeoff, yes, I've tried several versions and they boot just fine on my win7 computer. but won't boot on my win8 laptop
[02:49] <saegeoff> person, go buy another one or find one
[02:50] <person353> I can't I'm broke
[02:50] <person353> Sigh
[02:50] <c-prompt> knock on your neighbors door
[02:50] <c-prompt> i have more ethernet cables than i do sugar
[02:50] <saegeoff> person, can you connect your laptop then and join this chat from there?
[02:50] <saegeoff> c-prompt, me too.. i have a box of them
[02:50] <person353> I'll try hold on
[02:50] <johndropper> Person you have up on me
[02:50] <johndropper> person353:
[02:51] <saegeoff> person, I use irssi to chat on here
[02:51] <purge> saegeoof, I get as far as seeing the ubuntu loading, but then it goes to an error message : "(initramfs) unable to find a medium containing a live file system"
[02:51] <Bashing-om> unclescratchie: USC= ubuntu software center -> sources, and make sure universe and 3rd party are enabled (checked).
[02:51] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  ok   hang on
[02:52] <johndropper> person353: Make sure you didn't press a button on the laptop that disables wireless
[02:52] <johndropper> Your wireless card isn't showing up via ifconfig -a
[02:54] <Dante> hello?
[02:54] <unclescratchie> Bashing:  sorry,  not sure how to check sources in USC
[02:54] <johndropper> Hi
[02:54] <saegeoff> john, you should start using ip vs ifconfig
[02:54] <Dante> I have a quick question about zRAM
[02:55] <saegeoff> right now there isn't a big difference but ifconfig is the old way
[02:55] <johndropper> saegeoff: Why?
[02:55] <saegeoff> well, it is more full featured for one.  secondly, ifconfig will disappear someday and you should learn the new way
[02:55] <johndropper> Command not found for me sir
[02:55] <saegeoff> lol
[02:55] <saegeoff> what version are you using?
[02:56] <johndropper> Install it?
[02:56] <saegeoff> ubuntu 1.0?
[02:56] <johndropper> Lol
[02:56] <johndropper> Ahahhaha
[02:56] <kostkon> !find ipconfig
[02:56] <saegeoff> no
[02:56] <saegeoff> it is called ip
[02:56] <saegeoff> ip
[02:56] <johndropper> I only have tp iw if
[02:56] <johndropper> I am familiar
[02:56] <saegeoff> type
[02:56] <saegeoff> ip addr show
[02:56] <johndropper> But that's a windows deal I thought m
[02:57] <saegeoff> no
[02:57] <saegeoff> not ipconfig
[02:57] <saegeoff> ip
[02:57] <johndropper> saegeoff: Oh look a there!! Thanks
[02:57] <saegeoff> yes john
[02:57] <johndropper> saegeoff: I like that
[02:57] <saegeoff> ifconfig is the old way
[02:57] <johndropper> I know. I'm old
[02:57] <The_Matrix> Hey its person
[02:57] <The_Matrix> I got the etnernet to work
[02:57] <johndropper> Hey The_Matrix
[02:57] <The_Matrix> What should I do now
[02:58] <johndropper> Ok
[02:58] <Dante> My laptop right now is running an older Sempron 3600. I recently put in 4GB of RAM on it so it's currently sitting at a usable 3.8GB. I wanted to know if zRAM would be beneficial to my machine.
[02:58] <johndropper> Type apt-get update
[02:58] <The_Matrix> ok
[02:58] <saegeoff> hey john, read this.. it will help you migrate:  http://www.tty1.net/blog/2010/ifconfig-ip-comparison_en.html
[02:58] <johndropper> As root
[02:58] <The_Matrix> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[02:58] <The_Matrix> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[02:58] <The_Matrix> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[02:58] <The_Matrix> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:58] <johndropper> Ok cool thanks saegeoff
[02:58] <The_Matrix> ???
[02:59] <johndropper> Lol
[02:59] <johndropper> Type sudo -i
[02:59] <johndropper> Once root then type apt-get update
[02:59] <freescript> are there any active channels on this network where people chat about general open source topics?  a lot of the channels i've visited don't have a lot of action.
[03:00] <The_Matrix> it wont work
[03:00] <The_Matrix> at all
[03:00] <johndropper> What's it saying?
[03:00] <johndropper> Pm me
[03:00] <The_Matrix> it wont let me type my password in
[03:00] <johndropper> It won't shown the password as you type
[03:01] <johndropper> Just type it
[03:01] <The_Matrix> i dd
[03:01] <The_Matrix> did
[03:01] <The_Matrix> nothing happened
[03:01] <johndropper> Exit terminal and restart
[03:01] <The_Matrix> nvm
[03:01] <The_Matrix> it asays
[03:01] <The_Matrix> im in root
[03:01] <The_Matrix> now
[03:01] <johndropper> Ok
[03:01] <johndropper> apt-get update
[03:01] <The_Matrix> also im downloading like 400 updates
[03:01] <The_Matrix> right now
[03:01] <The_Matrix> lol
[03:02] <johndropper> Let it update
[03:02] <saegeoff> matrix, it won't ask you a password as root
[03:02] <The_Matrix> through the update manager
[03:02] <saegeoff> and you should not use sudo once you are root
[03:02] <The_Matrix> oh
[03:02] <saegeoff> matrix, you shouldn't be using the gui update manager right now
[03:02] <johndropper> The_Matrix: Is it updating?
[03:02] <The_Matrix> yes it is
[03:02] <The_Matrix> and why saegeoff
[03:02] <johndropper> Ok let it run and look out for yes or y
[03:02] <The_Matrix> ok
[03:02] <johndropper> You may have to type those to continue
[03:02] <saegeoff> because the console is a better way to go... if it is running, then let it finish.
[03:03] <The_Matrix> ok
[03:03] <The_Matrix> its halfway done now
[03:03] <Dante> johndropper: are you familiar with zRAM?
[03:03] <johndropper>  saegeoff He is in console/term
[03:03] <johndropper> Dante: No I'm sorry
[03:03] <johndropper> Ok cool
[03:04] <Dante> johndropper: that's okay. Hopefully someone will come along in the chat that does. I don't want to do anything to my laptop that I'm unsure about
[03:04] <chillpill_> good idea
[03:04] <johndropper> Dante: No worries
[03:07] <Dante> yea because I want to upgrade the RAM but I'm already using all of her slots
[03:07] <Dante> since my processor is more on the weak side
[03:08] <saegeoff> john, have a good night
[03:08] <saegeoff> i am out
[03:10] <gshmu> clipboard on ubuntu
[03:11] <Dante> gshmu?
[03:12] <gshmu> Dante: I want write string using python
[03:12] <Dante> Oh, sorry I can't help you there gshmu. I'm just looking for help myself.
[03:13] <gshmu> Dante:  looking for what?
[03:14] <Dante> gshmu: I want to find out if something like zRAM is beneficial to my laptop.
[03:14] <Bashing-om> Dante: A thouhgt - try Lubuntu, It ran well here on that processor, and as an added bonus zram is enabled by default in Lubuntu 13.10.
[03:15] <gshmu> zRAM sorry
[03:15] <Dante> Bashing-om: Thanks. So is it safe to assume Ubuntu 12.04 LTS doesn't have the feature or something similar?
[03:16] <Dante> gshmu: that's okay.
[03:17] <Bashing-om> Dante: Yeah, I have lubuntu installed as a test bed, and I notice  in 'fdisk' there are 2 zrams enabled.
[03:17] <Cheekio> can someone help me with an nvidia graphics install problem? Details here:
[03:17] <Cheekio> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2217168
[03:18] <Dante> Bashing-om: the Processor is actually Mobile AMD Sempron 3500+. I missed it by a number.
[03:19] <Bashing-om> Dante: My experience, on that processor, with 2 gigs of ram, (u)buntu lagged real bad, lubuntu performed admirably.
[03:20] <Cheekio> So what is X?
[03:21] <Cheekio> I've been juggling xorg.conf's all night, and apparently restarting x is faster than restarting the machine
[03:21] <Cheekio> but what's X?
[03:22] <Dante> Bashing-om: Well I upgraded it with that slot so it's running at an available 3.8GB RAM but even then I can sometimes see the lagging on 12.04 LTS. I'll take you up on Lubuntu but will it have the same drivers as Ubuntu? I ask this because right now all of my drivers are working great so I'm a little worried about losing that.
[03:24] <Bashing-om> Dante: I can understand that, Lubuntu is 'buntu only the desk top and it's applications are different. same same kernel, For safties sake run Lubuntu in "try ubuntu" mode and see what is.
[03:25] <Dante> Bashing-om: I can get that off the Lubuntu site right?
[03:25] <dw1> How can I avoid appearing under "Browse Network" to others on network?  I want to remain hidden when I use public wifi
[03:25] <Bashing-om> Dante: keep in mind release 14.04 is due out in only 2 more days !
[03:26] <Bashing-om> Dante: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/GetLubuntu <-.
[03:26] <Dante> Bashing-om: lol, so will that be an upgrade to 13.10 or is that going to be a whole new OS install?
[03:26] <Bashing-om> Dante: That my friend would be a new install, back up all data and have at it.
[03:27] <Dante> Bashing-om: Well I meant from Lubuntu 13.10 to the new 14.04 release
[03:29] <Bashing-om> Dante: Yeah, one can upgrade thrn from 13.10 to 14.04 ( I personally prefer clean installs)// less chance of heartburn.
[03:30] <Bashing-om> thrn/then
[03:31] <Dante> Bashing-om: Thanks a bunch you've been a great help. I'm going to try out Lubuntu and see how it goes.
[03:31] <Dante> :)
[03:34] <Bashing-om> Dante: Try it .. I liked it .. it was fast ! ( version 13.10 no longer fits on a CD, will have to burn to DVD or USB).
[03:35] <Dante> okay
[03:35] <et_> hello i am trying to help a freind install ubuntu... his bios wont boot from usb so i decided to try to boot from the usb while windows is running
[03:36] <agent_white> So I'm trying to debug my music program (cmus), as it's locked up. I've followed http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Linux_Applications_Debugging_Techniques/Deadlocks ... but once I get to "p *(pthread_mutex_t*)0x6015a0", I get "No symbol table is loaded, use the File command".
[03:36] <et_> but it says like 3 hours to install
[03:36] <et_> is this going to work or am i wasting my time
[03:36] <Dante> Bashing-om: well this one is at 698MB
[03:36] <Dante> lol I should probably put it in a DVD just in case because it's only 2MB shy of the threshold of the CD
[03:38] <Bashing-om> Dante: Yeah, I just tried to burn 13.10, and the burn size advisement from brasereo was 736 MB .. now your milage 'Might" be different.
[03:39] <Dante> Bashing-om: is true that one could install an OS to a USB stick and use that on a machine in case the original OS decided to stop working or fell ill?
[03:40] <Bashing-om> Dante: To Be real honest, I have burned Lubuntu several times to CD, this time I wasted 2 CDs before I saw what my problem was !
[03:41] <Bashing-om> Dante: yep, one can run from a USB .. but the bus speed is real slow.
[03:42] <Dante> Bashing-om: I would imagine so, but it seems like a convenient quick fix in case you need to get some files out
[03:43] <Bashing-om> Dante: yeah.. that too is a function of the liveDVD, but there are advantages of USB over DVD .. particularly if one has persistence on that liveUSB.
[03:45] <agent_white> Mmm. If `ps aux` shows a "
[03:45] <Dante> Bashing-om: I'm guessing running that OS off the USB stick reduces the life of the USB stick at a significant rate though
[03:45] <agent_white> "?" under the column TTY, what does that mean?
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Dante: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042965 , http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ..
[03:46] <Bashing-om> Dante: Well, USB drives only have a reletively short life time anyway.
[03:47] <Dante> Bashing-om: ah. I just got a error from Brasero when I tried to write Lubuntu on a blank DVD :(
[03:48] <b13> What's the normal life of a USB stick?
[03:48] <Bashing-om> Dante: Ya check the .iso integrity ? ->https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM <- .
[03:49] <Dante> b13 that would depend on the manufacturer,  I believe but it should be about 10k write cycles
[03:52] <somsip> !info fail2ban precise
[03:53] <somsip> !info fail2ban trusty
[03:58] <demha> Hi, What application  can I use to connect to a vmware 5.1esxi server, a program to use as the client in ubuntu, any ideas?
[03:59] <Dante> Bashing-om: SCSI error on write(0,16): [3 73 03] Power calibration area error.
[03:59] <Dante> :(
[04:02] <Bashing-om> Dante: Di ya see my :49 entry ?
[04:02] <Bashing-om> did
[04:03] <Dante> Bashing-om: the md5 was good and I put it to write on the lowest speed but it still spat it back out and gave me the same error
[04:04] <lotuspsychje> Dante: cd brand low-end?
[04:04] <Dante> Gigaware
[04:04] <Dante> lol
[04:04] <Dante> it could be a bad DVD
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Dante: never used it myself, maybe ask in ##hardware if that brand any good?
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> Dante: i had few failures in the past with brasero on empty dvd's
[04:05] <Bashing-om> Dante: Well, here I just do not know.. maybe download the .iso once more and verify it and try again ? (waste another DVD !).
[04:05] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[04:06] <Dante> well I'm gonna use another DVD since I have plenty of them but if it happens a few more times than I don't think the DVDs are the problem
[04:07] <Bashing-om> Dante: agreed. got access to another machine , see if a different DVD will burn the image ?
[04:08] <Dante> Bashing-om the same thing happened. I'm going to another machine to see if it's just something on here that's iffy
[04:08] <Dante> brb
[04:09] <Bashing-om> Dante: k
[04:09] <shunya_chakra> hi
[04:09] <shunya_chakra> waiting for ubuntu new release!
[04:10] <Dante> Bashing-om: I don't have access to another machine so it looks like I'm SOL
[04:12] <Lasrod> Hi, I'm trying to install a package called asn1c to Ubuntu but it does not work. I get "Unable to locate package asn1c" when I do sudo apt-get install asn1c. I have checked the sourcelist according to some comments found on google and it does look correct. Any ideas?
[04:13] <zedzdead> Hello guide
[04:13] <zedzdead> Guise
[04:13] <Dante> hello
[04:14] <Sohail-Ahmed> What does // and & symbol mean in bash?
[04:14] <zedzdead> Google it
[04:15] <Sohail-Ahmed> I did but could not find any thing, perhaps I am not using the correct keyword.
[04:15] <Sohail-Ahmed> Can you suggest a correct keyword for it?
[04:15] <zedzdead> In sure there's a wiki somewhere
[04:16] <Sohail-Ahmed> keyword?
[04:16] <zedzdead> Search for bag symbol meanings
[04:16] <zedzdead> I mean bash
[04:16] <Bashing-om> Dante: USB thumb drive ? Got a spare one around ?
[04:16] <Dante> Bashing-om: Yea I have one
[04:17] <zedzdead> Install gentoo
[04:18] <Dante> So there's a way to turn the USB into a bootable image?
[04:18] <Dante> I mean
[04:19] <zedzdead> No there is
[04:19] <zedzdead> Easily
[04:19] <Bashing-om> Dante: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2042965 , http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1958073 , http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ ....
[04:20] <Dante> well I'm not trying to take out my HDD
[04:20] <zedzdead> Dante just use unetbootin
[04:21] <Dante> thanks guys
[04:21] <Dante> :)
[04:22] <django> Bashing-om hey sorry i had to go are you still here?/
[04:23] <johndropper> Need password
[04:23] <omosoj> The update manager keeps asking me to update a Google Talk Plugin (that I never installed). How do I stop this?
[04:25] <Bashing-om> django: Yeah I stoll here for just a bit longer. mind getting cloudy !
[04:27] <Lasrod> Where can I see if the package asn1c is available through apt-get for the ubuntu system I'm using?
[04:27] <django> Bashing-om haha, so to give you some context I pretty much just want to play around with certain javascript frameworks, just that i want ubuntu installed b/c most people who use these frameworks tend to be on linux or OSX
[04:27] <django> my problem is that my partition only allows for 9gb so I cant do more than that
[04:29] <cfhowlett> django lubuntu / xubuntu are significantly lighter and are still javascript capable
[04:29] <Bashing-om> django: I know nothing about android development, or what the support needs would be, If it were me in this situation, and I did not need a GUI; I would install ubuntu core - very small foot print.
[04:30] <django> ive never heard of these things before interesting
[04:31] <django> whats ubuntu core
[04:31] <somsip> django: maybe just install on a virtual machine if you're just using it for light usage. You might not even have to install a desktop if you want to keep it really minimal
[04:32] <Bashing-om> django: No matter what we call it, all linux are running on the same kernel, just what is on top of that kernel is different.
[04:32] <Sohail-Ahmed> zedzdead, I have found the meaning of && but could not find anything on //. Would you plz help
[04:33] <Bashing-om> django: core is just the kernel and what ever it takes to boot that kernel, absolute minimum and no frills !
[04:33] <django> ok so how do i "attach" some sort of UI
[04:33] <django> i dont wanna run off a command prompt lol
[04:35] <energizer> Hello. Chromium keeps freezing very often. I have ubuntu 13.10. Help?
[04:35] <Bashing-om> django: take cfhowlett's advise, till you know better, and try lubuntu or xubuntu, Both are very light.
[04:35] <Dante> Bashing-om: I'm going to try this out now
[04:35] <Dante> bbl
[04:35] <django> it can run everything ubuntu can correct?
[04:36] <jellow> energizer, Have you run memtest at boot to check for corrupt ram?
[04:36] <Bashing-om> django: yup, only difference is the desk top and the applications installed. the kernel is the kernel is the kernel.
[04:37] <Loshki> django: 9G is plenty even for 'regular' ubuntu, unless you plan to be a pig...
[04:37] <energizer> jellow: no i'll try it now. brb
[04:37] <energizer> actually, that takes a long time, doesn't it
[04:39] <cfhowlett> !mini|django you could go a step further, install .mini and then carefully select from the remaining options
[04:39] <Bashing-om> django: Like I have said earlier ubuntu will install 5 gigs or so when completed.
[04:39] <energizer> also, chromium freezes on certain websites particularly. for example, if i go to www.gap.com, it will always freeze
[04:40] <jellow> energizer,  Yes can take a long time ( few hours ) but is probably  good place to start
[04:40] <energizer> alright i'll give it a shot. thanks
[04:41] <jellow> energizer, you can disable acceleration within chromium too to see if it is at all related
[04:41] <django> lol the damn ubuntu download isnt working
[04:41] <django> didnt work couple of days ago either
[04:41] <cfhowlett> django use the torrents
[04:43] <energizer> jellow: ok i went to about:flags and disabled everything that had accel in the description, but no change.
[04:44] <energizer> jellow: the weird thing is that it's just chromium that freezes. i can do other stuff on the computer while chromium isn't working. that makes me think it isn't a ram problem, no?
[04:46] <htmlinprogress> gi
[04:46] <htmlinprogress> hi*
[04:47] <django> lol where can i find the latest ubuntu torrents
[04:48] <cfhowlett> django www.ubuntu.com        get ubuntu
[04:49] <htmlinprogress> django,  i suppose on ubuntu site
[04:50] <django> yeah i found haha
[04:50] <tozen> hi all! does anb else affected by this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1307846
[04:52] <htmlinprogress> django,  atm i have a vps seeding some or all the ubuntu torrents
[04:52] <django> yeah its going really fast
[04:52] <htmlinprogress> django,  so pleasetell me how fast did you download the torrent.
[04:53] <htmlinprogress> can you keep track of the stats , and please tell me
[04:53] <django> 900kb/s
[04:53] <tnk> can anyone help me get sound working on my ubuntu 13.10???
[04:56] <htmlinprogress> can you keep track of the stats , and please tell me
[04:56] <htmlinprogress> django, can you keep track of the stats , and please tell me
[04:56] <django> what
[04:56] <fballem> msg NickServ VERIFY REGISTER fballem mabirciquzuu
[04:57] <johndropper> Well I tried
[04:57] <johndropper> Night all
[04:57] <htmlinprogress> django, im asking you about the torrent. like long did it take to download?
[04:58] <htmlinprogress> django,  whats what the avg download speed?
[04:58] <django> i already said..
[04:58] <django> 1mb/2
[04:58] <htmlinprogress> is that as fast as you are able?
[04:59] <django> yes
[04:59] <htmlinprogress> cool
[04:59] <htmlinprogress> what os are you getting?
[04:59] <django> how reliable is wuby
[04:59] <django> ubuntu
[04:59] <django> wubi*
[05:00] <htmlinprogress> its been to long for me to say.
[05:00] <htmlinprogress> try things in a virtual box
[05:02] <Bashing-om> django: WUBI, Don't think that is what you want, wubi is no longer supported.
[05:02] <django> its still on the ubuntu website
[05:02] <django> i have windows7
[05:02] <htmlinprogress> django,  if you looking for a ubuntu os that is already  somewhat setup then try this. https://www.linuxliteos.com/
[05:02] <adun153> Hi, I have a situation where my my server installation is starting Upstart services, but not the SysV ones. How should I go about troubleshooting this?
[05:04] <htmlinprogress> linux lite is for the new folk . lot of the set up for linux lite has be done for you.  but still ubuntu 12.04
[05:04] <htmlinprogress> django,  huh?
[05:04] <cfhowlett> adun153 ask in #ubuntu-server
[05:05] <adun153> ok, thanks!
[05:05] <htmlinprogress> adun153,  huh?
[05:05] <long_john> John 23 yrs , 7 inches from LA CA
[05:05] <cfhowlett> !ops|long_john
[05:05] <cfhowlett> long_john wrong channel.
[05:06] <long_john> Sorry guys , ma bad
[05:06] <et_> so i have a question noone got me to be on... we are in a tricky situation where we cant use a dvd nor boot from usb but the image is on a usb drive installed and its booting from windows
[05:07] <et_> so windows is running while doing the install.... is this going to work?
[05:07] <long_john> Try a boot loader from floppy
[05:07] <cfhowlett> et_ booting from windows = wubi and is no longer supported
[05:07] <tnk> can anyone help me get sound working on ubuntu 13.10?
[05:07] <et_>  cant no fluppy drive
[05:08] <mikeche1en> et_: why cant boot from usb?
[05:08] <et_> the bios dont support it
[05:08] <et_> not about to start flashing things..
[05:08] <et_> lol
[05:08] <htmlinprogress> et_,  i got an idea
[05:09] <et_> go for it
[05:09] <et_> well it seems to be installing
[05:09] <et_> but i dont know i never done it this way
[05:09] <mikeche1en> wow that must be an old system
[05:10] <et_> its an old dell
[05:10] <htmlinprogress> et_,  you need a to install it via virtualbox   :> i have done this many times
[05:10] <mikeche1en> how do you install via virtualbox?
[05:10] <et_> yeah
[05:10] <htmlinprogress> et_,  what the specs on that  harware?
[05:10] <et_> how?
[05:10] <long_john> Just guessing ur pc it's low on resources isn't?
[05:10] <mikeche1en> might want to consider buying a cd/dvd drive
[05:11] <htmlinprogress> what os are you running?
[05:11] <mikeche1en> having no way to boot from external media is a dangerous situation
[05:11] <htmlinprogress> xp? vista win7 win 8?
[05:11] <et_> well its a p4
[05:11] <et_> old dell computer
[05:11] <htmlinprogress> mikeche1en,  huh what do you mean "dangerous situation"?
[05:12] <et_> lol
[05:12] <mikeche1en> htmlinprogress: i mean if something ever goes wrong with the system, you will have no way to fix it
[05:12] <et_> its safer i would think
[05:12] <long_john> Can't u just use virtual box?
[05:12] <mikeche1en> idk how vbox helps anything
[05:12] <et_> me either
[05:13] <long_john> Download virtual box from the site and install it
[05:13] <mikeche1en> im surprised p4 mobo doesnt support usb boot
[05:13] <et_> i was too
[05:13] <et_> must be crappy bios
[05:13] <htmlinprogress> et_,  https://www.linuxliteos.com/  its easy on the older stuff while still having ubuntu
[05:13] <mikeche1en> long_john: basically you are suggesting running ubuntu in a vm instead of full install right
[05:13] <long_john> Download the image of Linux as we'll  in case u haven't
[05:13] <long_john> Correct
[05:14] <et_> here is the situation now
[05:14] <mikeche1en> et_: the reason i would get a cd/dvd drive is even if you had some windows problem, you could never even reinstall windows
[05:14] <et_> windows xp is running
[05:14] <et_> and ubuntu says like 30 mins left to install
[05:14] <et_> which i think is very weird
[05:14] <htmlinprogress> guys if you didnt know, you can use virtualbox to install the linux os on the usb  then boot off of that.
[05:14] <et_> but i guess we will see what happens
[05:14] <htmlinprogress> good old xp.
[05:14] <mikeche1en> htmlinprogress: the problem is his bios cannot boot off usb
[05:15] <mikeche1en> et_: using wubi?
[05:15] <et_> yeah my buddy is from the caveman days
[05:15] <long_john> No more updates for our friend xp! Rip
[05:15] <et_> llol
[05:15] <htmlinprogress> flash a new version of the bois
[05:15] <htmlinprogress> :<
[05:15] <et_> well he had virus too out the ass
[05:15] <htmlinprogress> rip  xp
[05:15] <et_> so i recomended ubuntu to him
[05:15] <htmlinprogress> pron much?
[05:16] <et_> lol
[05:16] <et_> prolly how he got it
[05:16] <et_> lol
[05:16] <htmlinprogress> *wash hands
[05:16] <et_> but whats even funnier
[05:16] <mikeche1en> you can probably get a cd drive for like $10
[05:16] <et_> he left his comp her
[05:16] <et_> here for 2 days
[05:16] <et_> online
[05:16] <et_> heh....
[05:16] <et_> already got infected
[05:16] <et_> a shitload
[05:16] <et_> lol
[05:16] <cfhowlett> htmlinprogress have you the link for the virtualbox to HDD conversion
[05:17] <cfhowlett> et_ ease up on the ENTER key please.
[05:17] <et_> nou
[05:17] <et_> fgt
[05:17] <htmlinprogress> well i can help fix the xp part . im a minor it guy
[05:17] <mikeche1en> et_: dont be a jerk in this chan if you want help
[05:17] <htmlinprogress> IT*
[05:17] <et_> pfft no sense in fixxing xp
[05:17] <rww> ubottu: guidelines
[05:17] <et_> okay im sorry
[05:18] <long_john> Lol
[05:18] <et_> you misread my sense of humor
[05:18] <et_> lol
[05:18] <mikeche1en> ty its not easy to tell when typing :)
[05:18] <rww> probably best if we stick to support in here, everyone :)
[05:18] <et_> ohh geeze
[05:18] <et_> okay grandma
[05:18] <the_lost_soul> Hey guys, when I light a scene with low-poly characters, I get weird artifacts around edges
[05:19] <rww> the_lost_soul: in which program?
[05:19] <mikeche1en> light it with what?
[05:19] <htmlinprogress> well if you are On xp and it is near inmpossible to do anything. what makes it any betting  to install a os,which is one of the most heaviest things to do on a computer
[05:19] <the_lost_soul> there's a large drop off in the brightness of the light, leaving noticeable shading differences
[05:19] <et_> did you install restricted drivers for ya vid card and make sure ya vid settings are cool
[05:19] <mikeche1en> the_lost_soul: color banding?
[05:20] <the_lost_soul> this is in the internal engine, and it happens no matter what lights I use, even if I turn off shadows. The single thing that prevents it is using indirect light/approximate, but that's slow
[05:20] <mikeche1en> the internal engine of what?
[05:20] <htmlinprogress> cfhowlett,  no. but you can try to install the linux os "on" the flash drive then insall  it on somewhere else
[05:20] <the_lost_soul> of blender
[05:20] <mikeche1en> the_lost_soul: ask in #blender ?
[05:21] <the_lost_soul> oh oops lol sorry wrong room...
[05:21] <mikeche1en> haha i was wondering
[05:21] <long_john> Graphics designers *facepalm
[05:24] <long_john> What are the benefits of having Ubuntu as main OS?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> long_john too broad a question ...
[05:24] <cfhowlett> !details
[05:26] <htmlinprogress> long_john,  well less maintaince once you set up is complete
[05:27] <htmlinprogress> long_john,  virses dont care to mess with you, unless that pc cold get to you, but still your fine.
[05:29] <long_john> htmlinprogress: understood, I only played around with puppy Linux and backtrack lol
[05:33] <htmlinprogress> long_john,  kali linx is the replacement for backtrack
[05:33] <cfhowlett> !ot|kali and backtrack are not supported here
[05:34] <htmlinprogress> cfhowlett,  ok, my point of telling him was to  redircet long_john  if he want to try those out.
[05:35] <cfhowlett> htmlinprogress understood.  thanks.
[05:35] <htmlinprogress> cfhowlett,  C:
[05:35] <htmlinprogress> django,  how the install going?
[05:36] <htmlinprogress> long_john,  well you can try linux lite. ubuntu with a lite and fast touch
[05:37] <long_john> Htmlinprogress I'll try it out in a virtual machine !
[05:41] <htmlinprogress> long_john,  ok.
[05:53] <django> anyone know how i can use my nexus phone as a usb to save ubuntu
[05:53] <cfhowlett> django "save ubuntu"??? save it from what?
[05:54] <cfhowlett> !details
[05:54] <long_john> U mean to save it as image?
[05:54] <django> i have my nexus phone (cant find my USB stick)..im trying to use universal installer to save ubuntu to it so i can install
[05:54] <django> my phone doesnt come up as a usb storage device in universal USB
[05:54] <rww> Current android phones don't do USB mass storage, just MTP, so that won't work.
[05:54] <qin> django: I doubt it will want to work
[05:54] <cfhowlett> django depends on the version of ubuntu.  MTP is the package that enables USB via my Nexus 4
[05:55] <django> fak
[05:55] <django> why cant i find a usb stick lol
[05:55] <cfhowlett> django but an actual USB costs - what?  $10 these days?
[05:55] <django> yeah its 2am here and i cant find mine
[05:55] <Blue1> i have had some issues with debian (perhaps not an issues with ubuntu) not having support for xfat drives
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Blue1 take it up with #debian please
[05:56] <Blue1> no no -- I fixed the problem -- I am just stating perhaps xfat could be a factor in this case.
[05:56] <cfhowlett> Blue1 ah.  got it.
[05:56] <Blue1> np
[05:57] <Blue1> i think everyone is waiting for 14.04 lts later this week.
[05:58] <rww> aww, too long
[05:58] <cfhowlett> !isitout
[05:58] <cfhowlett> :)
[06:02] <django> once i get the OS installed do i have to install drivers for my laptop keyboard monitor etc?
[06:02] <Blue1> I did not --
[06:02] <Blue1> i have an acer aspire -- works fine
[06:03] <Blue1> what version of ubuntu are planning to install?
[06:04] <django> 12.05
[06:04] <django> 04
[06:04] <Blue1> yeah that should work unless you have newer then 2012 hardware
[06:05] <Blue1> I had to use 12.10 on my mom's laptop - because that has some device drivers the 12.04 didn't have - the laptop was a 2013 model -
[06:05] <rww> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack :)
[06:07] <Blue1> thanks
[06:20] <noodle> why I can't find lamp at Ubuntu Software Center?
[06:20] <rww> noodle: because it's a group of packages, not just one :)
[06:20] <rww> ubottu: lamp
[06:22] <kylie> hello anyone there?
[06:22] <rww> yep :)
[06:23] <Guest52554> @rww Can you please help me out?
[06:23] <rww> Guest52554: Go ahead and ask your question, and if someone knows they'll respond :)
[06:24] <mdoge> Hello, As part of a challenge I need to use a aes128 key to decrypt the harddisk, which is encrypted. Ubuntu 32bit. Any tips?
[06:24] <mdoge> I've got the key already
[06:25] <Guest52554> as i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on my laptop. And I wanna insatll ns2.34 in it. But i am facing a prblem with it. Though i have downloaded the ns2.34.tar,gz, but when i install it on terminal it gives fetching error. Please help me
[06:25] <qin> mdoge: whats the timeframe?
[06:26] <mdoge> qin: whats the timeframe for what? the challenge?
[06:26] <qin> sorry missed the key point
[06:26] <mdoge> :-)
[06:27] <apb1963> where would I submit a bug against a radeon video card driver?
[06:27] <Guest52554> anyone's there?
[06:27] <rww> apb1963: is it the default one or fglrx, the proprietary/closed-source one?
[06:27] <mdoge> qin: I've got a vmware image with the server. The disks are encrypted. I also have a memory dump where i retreived what i believe the key.
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|Guest52554
[06:27] <apb1963> rww: default
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !bug|apb1963
[06:27] <greeter> oh i hope there's an easy way to upgrade to the latest version via the command line
[06:28] <rww> apb1963: run ubuntu-bug xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[06:28] <Guest52554> as i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on my laptop. And I wanna insatll ns2.34 in it. But i am facing a prblem with it. Though i have downloaded the ns2.34.tar,gz, but when i install it on terminal it gives fetching error. Please help me
[06:28] <cfhowlett> greeter sudo apt-get dist-release
[06:28] <rww> nope
[06:28] <cfhowlett> ?
[06:28] <apb1963> rww: ok, but... if I wanted to checkup on an already submitted bug..... where would I go?
[06:28] <rww> greeter: sudo do-release-upgrade, once it's out
[06:28] <cfhowlett> DOH!  thanks rww
[06:28] <greeter> oh cool thanks cfhowlett and rww :-)
[06:28] <rww> apb1963: to see a list of bugs in that package?
[06:29] <apb1963> rww: No, to see the bug I submitted several months ago... and to update it with new info.
[06:29] <apb1963> rww: because I don't remember where the site is.
[06:29] <rww> apb1963: ah, okays. http://launchpad.net/
[06:29] <apb1963> rww: hmmm... I checked there... I don't see my bug :(
[06:31] <Guest52554> as i have just installed ubuntu 12.04 lts on my laptop. And I wanna insatll ns2.34 in it. But i am facing a prblem with it. Though i have downloaded the ns2.34.tar,gz, but when i install it on terminal it gives fetching error. Please help me
[06:32] <Guest52554> there?
[06:32] <rww> apb1963: log in at top right, go to your profile page, go to Bugs. is it there?
[06:32] <rww> Guest52554: looks like it's a bit complicated to install. I saw http://ns2-ubuntu.blogspot.com/ that might help a bit. If those instructions don't work, try quoting the actual error here (copy it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the created paste here if it's multi-line)
[06:34] <Guest52554> sudo apt-get update command is not working.. giving some kinda fetching packages error
[06:34] <rww> Guest52554: ah, okay. put the entire output of that command in paste.ubuntu.com and link the created paste here, and we'll take a look :)
[06:36] <Guest52554> done
[06:36] <apb1963> rww: No.  In fact, when I did that.... I only saw one bug I reported... whereas earlier before I asked the question here, I found 3.  Then, a moment ago... it changed to 4.  None of which are the one I'm looking for.
[06:36] <nabblet> hi, i reported a bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baobab/+bug/1222431 some time ago and got a reply now: The issue you are reporting is an upstream one and it
[06:36] <nabblet> would be nice if somebody having it could send the bug to the developers
[06:36] <nabblet> of the software.
[06:36] <nabblet> what does that mean?
[06:36] <diverdude> Where do i find a ppa with cmake 2.8.10 or higher for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:38] <rww> apb1963: does it show up if on that page you click "Advanced search", then check all the boxes under status at left, then uncheck Hide duplicate bugs at bottom, then click Search?
[06:38] <long_john> Can I adapt or convert a windows pc game in obuntu?
[06:38] <diverdude> rww: Where do i find a ppa with cmake 2.8.10 or higher for ubuntu 12.04 ?
[06:38] <Beldar> diverdude, ppa's are not supported here so be careful. https://launchpad.net/~george-edison55/+archive/cmake-precise
[06:39] <rww> nabblet: "upstream" means the group of people who actually write the code for disk usage analyzer (Ubuntu just distributes it)
[06:39] <rww> nabblet: does that answer your question, or shall I walk through it? (our relationship with upstreams is a bit confusing to people)
[06:40] <diverdude> Beldar: i just dont understand why the ubuntu repos are so dang old
[06:40] <daya> Is it safe to configure hugepages 1 GB in Server?
[06:40] <long_john> Yes daya
[06:40] <diverdude> Beldar: thats 2.8.9...i need 2.8.10 or higher :/
[06:40] <long_john> Done it myself
[06:41] <Beldar> ah, soory I should have looked closer.
[06:41] <rww> diverdude: because once a new version of Ubuntu is released, we don't upgrade to new major releases of almost all software, we just backport security and stability updates. This reduces overall bugcount, but does lead to issues like you're having.
[06:41] <rww> diverdude: It's a tradeoff, unfortunately.
[06:41] <daya> long_john: How can I measure the performance after increasing any idea?
[06:42] <diverdude> rww: i need to build hdf5 which requires cmake 2.8.10 or higher. so how do i do that
[06:42] <apb1963> rww: that brings the total to 6.... none of which are the one I'm looking for.
[06:42] <mdoge> how can i recover an encrypted harddisk with an AES key?
[06:42] <rww> apb1963: what's your Launchpad username?
[06:42] <mdoge> (ubuntu server)
[06:42] <rww> (it should be in your URL when you're on bugs.launchpad.net)
[06:43] <apb1963> rww: can I PM it to you?
[06:43] <rww> apb1963: sure
[06:43] <apb1963> thank you
[06:44] <apb1963> although I can't tell if that was private or not the way this client does it :/
[06:44] <rww> diverdude: probably you'd get it from a PPA, but I don't personally do PPA support. Someone else might be able to help out, though :)
[06:44] <mdoge> how can i recover an encrypted harddisk with an AES key?
[06:44] <rww> apb1963: it was. one sec
[06:44] <diverdude> rww: there are no such ppa's :/
[06:46] <jellow> Hi there I'm trying to test the maximum throughput of my wireless network between two hosts with iperf -s / -c , What is the average speed from this output?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7259827/
[06:48] <nabblet> rww: ok i see. since baobab is part of gnome i have to go there and report (if necessary) - does this seem like the right place to go? https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=baobab
[06:49] <pshr> !hi
[06:50] <pshr> !LTS
[06:51] <nabblet> pshr: better use /msg dpkg <keyword>
[06:51] <rww> nabblet: Yep. I haven't used GNOME Bugzilla in a long time, but https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME might be useful.
[06:51] <rww> or more likely, /msg ubottu <keyword> ;)
[06:54] <pshr> Thanks nabblet rww
[06:59] <long_john> Ur welcome
[07:02] <mdoge> I have a key for my encrypted disk. I have mounted it in another virtualmachine but how do I use the key to decrypt it?
[07:02] <nabblet> rww: since you seem to know gnome bugzilla and launchpad - is there a way to shift the bug from launchpad to gnome bugzilla?
[07:03] <rww> nabblet: Usual practice is to add a bug watch on Launchpad pointing to the GNOME bugzilla bug. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Watches
[07:03] <nabblet> rww: can i use the same account in launchpad and gnome bugzilla (maybe they are affiliated in a way)?
[07:03] <nabblet> rww: ok
[07:03] <rww> I don't think you can use the same account, no.
[07:04] <rww> #ubuntu-bugs might be able to help with stuff I can't, if we both get stumped, btw :)
[07:07] <dinosaurs> I just entered the contest for Ubuntu's new logo
[07:07] <dinosaurs> what do you all think of my entry?
[07:07] <dinosaurs> http://imgur.com/feq03xk
[07:07] <rww> don't click that, folks
[07:08] <nabblet> rww: i don't want to create an account there too (i neiter use ubuntu nor gnome anymore). i checked their logs for related bug reports but so far no-one complained about performance issues there (as i did in launchpad). would you be so kind to copy&paste them my bug description? from https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/baobab/+bug/1222431 to https://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=baobab
[07:08] <rww> nabblet: I don't want to either. We can always leave this for someone else, or you could ask #ubuntu-bugs to do it :)
[07:09] <nabblet> rww: please don't think that i am lazy. i just dont want to create an other account some where for a one-time issue (+ i have no software anymore to respond to questions)
[07:09] <bocaneri> rww: I've blacklisted imgur.com on the spam bot becasue this is getting to be a rather common occurrence.
[07:09] <nabblet> rww: i will do that. thank you for your kind help
[07:09] <mdoge> I have a key for my encrypted disk. I have mounted it in another virtualmachine but how do I use the key to decrypt it?
[07:09] <rww> bocaneri: yeah, I know. am pondering history now
[07:09] <mdoge> I have a key for my (crypto_luks) encrypted disk. I have mounted it in another virtualmachine but how do I use the key to decrypt it?
[07:10] <rww> mdoge: ah, that extra info helps. I've used https://evilshit.wordpress.com/2012/10/29/how-to-mount-luks-encrypted-partitions-manually/ before, I think
[07:10] <mdoge> rww: thanks, ill read that
[07:10] <nabblet> rww: what's the deal with that contest? can't find any info about that...
[07:11] <nabblet> there is a wallpaper contest though...
[07:12] <bocaneri> rww: that account is on a multi-channel "heads up" list.
[07:12] <rww> bocaneri: *nod*
[07:13] <mdoge> rww: the article asumes you have a passphrase to decrypt the disk. I have a AES key that I read from raw memory.
[07:13] <rww> mdoge: ah, right
[07:13] <mdoge> (this is part of a challenge)
[07:13] <mdoge> any idea?
[07:14] <rww> looking at it, sec
[07:16] <rww> mdoge: on the cryptsetup luksOpen command I think you can append --keyfile somefile to specify a file instead of a passphrase. not sure though. man cryptsetup has more info
[07:17] <mdoge> rww: Yeah I was looking at that direction already. Thanks for looking!
[07:18] <nabblet> rww: i reported it to #ubuntu-bugs. have a nice day
[07:18] <rww> nabblet: You too. Thanks for following up on your bug report :)
[07:18] <nabblet> rww: well, that's the least i could do :) (also getting mail notificatins is quite helpful. i forgot about it long ago :P )
[07:19] <long_john> Damn guys I have a huge issue , please help!
[07:20] <long_john> So basically I'm at brok's. Gym , I have mostly electric type Pokemon, but he has rocks! He's nailing me hard!!! Any Solution?
[07:20] <rww> long_john: #ubuntu is for Ubuntu technical support. Pokémon isn't Ubuntu :P
[07:20] <greeter> well long_john i'm afraid this probably isn't the channel where you'd get help
[07:21] <greeter> if you want to pm me i might be able to help, but it's been a long time lol
[07:22] <long_john> Damn guys! I apologize I wrote In the wrong  channel tab! Shame on me!!
[07:22] <greeter> lol happens to us all sometimes :-) no worries
[07:24] <BlackDeath> hi... looking to change my default download location... i installed with austraia servers as my default server... i want to change it becaues the au server doesnt seem to fully update all the time... thanks
[07:25] <BlackDeath> i have server 12.04 installewd
[07:25] <cfhowlett> !server|BlackDeath
[07:25] <rww> BlackDeath: sudoedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:25] <rww> I note that Ubuntu Server is supported both here and in #ubuntu-server.
[07:26] <BlackDeath> thanks you rww
[07:26] <rww> BlackDeath: You're welcome. The change should be fairly self-explanatory assuming you have a new mirror in mind, but let me know if you need help (or need help finding a mirror) :)
[07:27] <larrypg> BlackDeath, are you talking about the server that you get ubuntu updates from?
[07:27] <BlackDeath> yes
[07:28] <larrypg> software and updates click on the server list and choose one
[07:29] <Elfuego> anyone around who can just check if a repo is responding or its a dns error on my side for me?
[07:29] <ikonia> Elfuego: what does it matter what other people get - it won't change your problem
[07:29] <ikonia> Elfuego: a.check your dns b.) check you can connect
[07:29] <ikonia> Elfuego: what other people can/can't do has no difference to your problem
[07:30] <rww> because if it works for other people it helps narrow down the list of things that could be broken?
[07:30] <rww> Elfuego: which repository?
[07:30] <ikonia> not really
[07:30] <Elfuego> Plex Repo
[07:30] <rww> Elfuego: what's the address?
[07:30] <Elfuego> deb http://www.plexapp.com/repo lucid main
[07:31] <ikonia> that url is a redirect to the website
[07:32] <rww> Elfuego: fails for me
[07:32] <ikonia> it's a redirect to the main website
[07:32] <Elfuego> @rww thought so
[07:32] <ikonia> if you hit it in a browser - you can watch it redirect
[07:33] <rww> indeed. I thought they might be not redirecting the relevant files under there, but it looks like they are
[07:33] <rww> Elfuego: you probably already know this, but there is a channel #plex that might be able to help
[07:34] <Elfuego> Ye its dead :P
[07:34] <rww> Yeah, we have a bit over 10x their user count ;)
[07:36] <gshmu> Ubuntu 14.04 download times
[07:37] <rww> hrm?
[07:37] <gshmu> tomorrow 4.17 (hour)
[07:37] <Elfuego> MM @rww this one work for you?
[07:37] <Elfuego> http://plex.r.worldssl.net/PlexMediaServer/ubuntu-repo
[07:37] <rww> gshmu: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time.
[07:37] <rww> Elfuego: that link 404's for me
[07:38] <DJones> gshmu: When its ready, no set time, but please feel free to join #ubuntu-release-party if you want to discuss the release while you wait it
[07:38] <Elfuego> Apparantly its supposed to 404 in browser
[07:38] <gshmu> rww:  no set time
[07:38] <rww> gshmu: correct
[07:38] <Elfuego> Hmm Error -5 no address associated with hostname in ssh
[07:39] <Elfuego> Would make life a bit easier if they could have a working repo lol
[07:39] <tHEbIgtHEb> Hey has any of you run a dual monitor system with an r9 270 ? I am not able to boot up with two monitors plugged in with the open source drivers and even using one monitor is giving me a lot of artifacts, and using the fglrx and fglrx-updates drivers has resulted in black screens
[07:39] <gshmu> rww: where can i got it earlly???
[07:39] <rww> gshmu: /join #ubuntu+1, see link in its /topic
[07:39] <rww> (that is also where discussion and support go)
[07:39] <gshmu> rww: thanks a lot
[07:40] <rww> You're welcome :)
[07:42] <dyu>  i'm confused by apache mod_wsgi. i have to compile it so i can get mod_wsgi.so or installing libapache2-mod-uwsgi is enough?
[07:44] <Kartagis> latter
[07:44] <Kartagis> dyu: ^
[07:46] <Elfuego> @rww seems you need a key file to get the repo to work
[07:47] <Elfuego> talk about making stuff needlessly complex :P
[07:49] <dyu> Kartagis: it can't find /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_wsgi.so , but I have /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_uwsgi.so i probably made a typo earlier today or is that supposed to be there?
[07:50] <dyu> ack. figured it out. i installed libapached-mod-uwsgi instead of just wsgi. muscle memory. -_____-
[07:50] <Kartagis> dyu: you're supposed to have a uwsgi
[07:51] <Elfuego> Side question how much disk space is 14.X looking at needing for server distro
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Elfuego depends on the server ... ftp, mail, etc ...
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Elfuego perhaps better asked in #ubuntu-server
[07:53] <Elfuego> @chowlett meant rough number - i.e. 10gb/20gb etc
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Elfuego a plain vanilla server installation will come in well under 10gb
[07:53] <thomedy> okay i got nothing
[07:54] <rww> indeed. under 1GB even, if I recall correctly.
[07:54] <thomedy> im so tired an di cant figure out why i dont have a price field in my commerce product display
[07:54] <Elfuego> So it hasnt got too much bigger :)
[07:54] <thomedy> i really really really need help
[07:54] <Elfuego> My 12.X is like 8gb or something fully configged
[07:55] <cfhowlett> !details|thomedy
[07:55] <thomedy> okay
[07:55] <thomedy> i have a product display
[07:56] <thomedy> with an inline entity form
[07:56] <cfhowlett> thomedy ubuntu doesn't have "product display" ... explain clearly
[07:56] <thomedy> shit sorry wrong room
[07:56] <thomedy> im a bit tired
[07:56] <cfhowlett> :)
[07:57] <Elfuego> Go have a 30min nap or smth :P
[07:58] <Elfuego> Yay Plex working :)
[07:58] <Elfuego> what a royal asspain tho :P
[07:59] <jhonny_> hey guys, anyone here who can help me a tricky initrd image from IBM
[07:59] <jhonny_> binwalk says its a gzip / hpack image
[07:59] <jhonny_> binwalk can extract just 1 of the images inside that initrd
[08:00] <jhonny_> and it becomes a CPIO image i can manipulate
[08:00] <jhonny_> but i need to wrap it all up again and i cant seem to be able to
[08:05] <posthuman> hey guys im running a exim4 mailserver since yesterday. I created 2 additional Mail Accounts.Sending from my "old" account to the new accounts works fine, vice versa does not. Exim4 log gives mailbox unavailable\n550 Sender address is not allowed
[08:05] <posthuman> can u pls help me :)
[08:06] <posthuman> oh all 3 accounts are  gmx.de /gmx.net accounts
[08:06] <CADBOT> Even though Ubuntu is planning to switch to systemd, will upstart still be around for those who prefer to use it for process management? I couldn't find any clear answers to this online anywhere.
[08:07] <posthuman> CADBOT:  No as far as i know
[08:07] <cfhowlett> CADBOT as I understand it, systemd will no longer be supported.  However, for those willing to compile, troubleshoot and fix on their own with zero support - well, have at it then.
[08:07] <cfhowlett> *upstart*
[08:08] <cappe> what do you suggest me to do about "fallback graphic devices failed" ? I'm using nvidia geforce. I'm not sure whether to use nouveou or nvidia propitary drivers. (Currently I'm using nouveo but I can't fix this boot up message)...
[08:08] <CADBOT> I  see.  Thanks!
[08:08] <cfhowlett> posthuman perhaps ask in #ubuntu-server
[08:08] <rww> CADBOT: the details of the systemd transition haven't been worked out yet, so I doubt there are clear answers to be gotten yet.
[08:09] <CADBOT> I don't know either terribly well, but I liked upstarts syntax a little bit better. However, I case I shouldn't bother continuing with it if it's going to pretty much be legacy soon
[08:10] <alteregoa> hi
[08:12] <cappe> Which is best of nouveo or the nvidia drivers? (if you have a nvidia graphics card)?
[08:13] <bazhang> cappe, for what usage
[08:13] <rww> cappe: depends on which card you have and what you're using it for
[08:13] <cappe> i'm using it for heavy rendition, i'm having gtx 275
[08:14] <cappe> it doesn't lag anymore in netflix (pipelight support)
[08:14] <cappe> it did lag when I was using nvidia drivers
[08:14] <cappe> but I get this error at boot (fallback graphics devices failed)
[08:15] <cappe> so I'm not sure what to do about the drivers
[08:17] <cappe> Oh I guess I need to remove everythings that has been left in the system from the nvidia drivers
[08:18] <aysorth> cappe: you're not on a laptop with optimus, are you?
[08:18] <cappe> hey! What should be the "driver" in X11 if I'm using neouvu (can't spell it right)
[08:19] <cappe> cause now it is nvidia
[08:19] <cappe> (left overs)
[08:19] <cappe> I'm using a workstation aysorth
[08:33] <cappe> What is "fallback graphics devices" ?
[08:33] <Kartagis> I connect a laptop disk with usb dongle, it says connected but not visible under /media/
[08:34] <Kartagis> cappe: it means for ex. if nvidia settings can't be made, use settings for intel
[08:34] <adac> when i do an ls -la within my gnome terminal then I do get no colored output. How to enable this?
[08:35] <cappe> Kartagis: is this indicating that I'm using the wrong drivers?
[08:35] <Elfuego> Is CIFS Error -13 Authentication or Permission error I cant remember:?
[08:35] <cappe> Does it matter? Will it mean my system is broke anyhow=
[08:35] <cappe> ?
[08:36] <Kartagis> adac: in your .bashrc, type alias ls='ls --color'
[08:36] <Kartagis> then source it
[08:36] <Kartagis> cappe: no idea about that
[08:37] <cappe> how do I make sure all nvidia driver leftovers are removed, what removable commands should I run?
[08:37] <adac> Kartagis, is this disabled by default actually? I thought at some point I had colors but now they have been disappeared. But maybe I do just remember wrong
[08:38] <Kartagis> adac: type alias in the terminal, and pastebin
[08:38] <adac> Kartagis, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/10833699
[08:39] <Kartagis> adac: see? there's no alias for ls
[08:39] <Kartagis> adac: in your .bashrc, type alias ls='ls --color', then source it
[08:39] <adac> Kartagis, yeah. Don't know what happened. it should be there by default. Yes I will do that, thanks
[08:40] <Kartagis> np
[08:42] <cappe> If your computer's graphics card doesn't support certain features, a more basic version of the desktop will be displayed and you will see a message telling you what happened. This is called fallback mode, and it allows you to use GNOME on your computer without some of its more advanced features. Starting in fallback mode doesn't necessarily mean that your graphics card isn't good enough to run GNOME - it might just mean that you don't have t
[08:42] <Elfuego> plex
[08:55] <GalliaTech> hello all
[08:55] <GalliaTech> I have  got a crowdfunding campaign  for a special smartphone running any OS and i need to be supported , can I post the link please ?
[08:56] <aeon-ltd> no
[08:56] <DJones> GalliaTech: No, this is just Ubuntu support
[08:56] <aeon-ltd> GalliaTech: a channel that's okay with advertising would be ok though
[08:59] <somsip> !info sendEmail trusty
[09:04] <freespirit-girl> i am so tired. hi all!
[09:06] <Elfuego> Hmm anyone got any idea why the virtual net adapter in ubuntu only connects at 100MPs on a 10GBit switch?
[09:07] <aeon-ltd> Elfuego: the cable?
[09:07] <cojack> Elfuego: your ethernet card?
[09:07] <Elfuego> Nah its a Virtual switch and the physical NIC connects just fine at 1GPs
[09:08] <Touhou11> The NSA have a tracking device on your system
[09:08] <Elfuego> Already checked both - the same switch connects at 10GBps in other VMs
[09:08] <freespirit-girl> __smoothie are you a eunuch? can someone tell me how i can track a possible hacker. please
[09:09] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: well how do you know you have something to trace?
[09:09] <k1l> freespirit-girl: please keep it to technical ubuntu support in here
[09:09] <Touhou11> k1l: Please do not boss others about
[09:09] <antonio__> hey folks..
[09:10] <antonio__> Just got a Vizio 60" Smart tv...I'm wondering how I can stream video wireless from my computer to this tv
[09:10] <aeon-ltd> antonio__: depends what it supports
[09:10] <freespirit-girl> because i got an email from a friend telling me. also, after a spammed the hell out of my friends without me even knowing it
[09:11] <Touhou11> antonio__: DNLA streaming if the TV supports it
[09:11] <aeon-ltd> ...
[09:11] <k1l> Touhou11: please act accoring to the !guidelines in here. thanks
[09:11] <plaisthos> just a quick question, I cannot find the right keyword for google. Does trusty boot with a precise kernel?
[09:11] <Touhou11> k1l: Likewise
[09:11] <Elfuego> @Antonio : you can look at Plex / XMBC
[09:12] <Elfuego> If you wanna make your life easier
[09:12] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: ok slow down, emails are being sent from your account? (online email) to your friends emails?
[09:12] <k1l> plaisthos: if you want the older precise kernel you can go with precise because its LTS it got support untill 2017
[09:12] <antonio__> touhoull: how can I find out if this tv has that?
[09:13] <Touhou11> antonio__: Read the manual, look at the settings? Depends on the TV, some smart TVs are nothing more than a few crummy built-in apps. But DLNA is a common standard now
[09:13] <k1l> antonio__: if that tv got wifi see the manual if it can work with dlna streaming. then install minidlna and stream from your ubuntu machine over wifi
[09:13] <plaisthos> k1l: that does not really help. I upgraded a precise box to trusty
[09:13] <freespirit-girl> I really would like to catch the little prick, if it is a hacker
[09:14] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: so is my summary correct?
[09:14] <plaisthos> k1l: and now the network stack went nuts. I am getting 1,5% packet to kvm virtual machines and wanted to see if it is a kernel problem
[09:14] <freespirit-girl> yes
[09:14] <freespirit-girl> exactly
[09:14] <k1l> plaisthos: you could try so. but that is not suported in here
[09:14] <k1l> !mainline | plaisthos
[09:15] <freespirit-girl> an email with a website
[09:15] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: a lot more likely; you got phished or your password was stolen now emails are being sent with your account, change your password
[09:15] <freespirit-girl> i did
[09:15] <k1l> freespirit-girl: you thought about its just spam?
[09:16] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: it's a bit more difficult to get someone to download a keylogger than to phish someone
[09:16] <freespirit-girl> its probably some little shit thousands of miles from me to be honest
[09:17] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: if it's a keylogger why would someone comb through data to send spam, it's too much work unless it's personal
[09:17] <k1l> freespirit-girl: please watch your language in here, thanks
[09:17] <freespirit-girl> sorry.. but it makes me mad
[09:18] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: though if it is you're gonna have to go through everything you've installed before it occurred to find what it is
[09:19] <freespirit-girl> will a website help?
[09:19] <antonio__> k1l: I just installed minidlna how do I use it?
[09:19] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: help what?
[09:20] <freespirit-girl> track the idiot
[09:20] <freespirit-girl> or idiots
[09:20] <k1l> antonio__: see the documentation: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MiniDLNA  you need to give it the media folders etc
[09:20] <k1l> !language | freespirit-girl
[09:20] <antonio__> k1l: I probably shouldn't do this after drinking ;)
[09:20] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: so far you have no evidence this is one or a group of hackers, test for more likely stuff first
[09:21] <Touhou11> Since when is idiots "bad language"? ffs
[09:21] <aeon-ltd> heheh
[09:22] <freespirit-girl> sorry... but you gotta admit anyone who does anything like  that are basically id*TT
[09:22] <Touhou11> Get a life k1l
[09:22] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: no, security testing is a real thing
[09:23] <Daghdha> Can i make Ubuntu tell me what MOtherboard it is running on?
[09:23] <k1l> Daghdha: sudo lshw
[09:24] <k1l> freespirit-girl: so you got an email from your friend telling you got hacked?
[09:24] <aeon-ltd> Daghdha: for more http://askubuntu.com/questions/179958/how-do-i-find-out-my-motherboard-model
[09:24] <Daghdha> cool, lshw :)
[09:25] <freespirit-girl> and i would love to test test test away... if i knew how.. For a minute I thought K11 was banned.. then i would leave, because he/she is taking up for moi
[09:25] <setra> hello ?!
[09:26] <aeon-ltd> setra: pls respond
[09:26] <Daghdha> ok, that's very extensive info. i love it. It even tells me i am using 2 banks of meme wich i also wanted to know. wow.
[09:29] <Daghdha> Motherboard only has two banks :( heart breaking.
[09:30] <aeon-ltd> Daghdha: not really... most people won't ever use more than 8gb for now or for the next few years, even 4gb is enough
[09:30] <freespirit-girl> yes
[09:30] <salsero_>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:30] <salsero_> Mem:       8080648    5053720    3026928          0     238932    2096248
[09:30] <Daghdha> yes but it has 2x4 and i wanted to double it. I run a VM on it.
[09:31] <freespirit-girl> he sent the email to both my AOL and gmail account
[09:31] <salsero_> i got only 2 banks as well
[09:31] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: ok just cause your friend sent a email to you is not evidence
[09:32] <k1l> Daghdha: the maximum ammount of possible ram is documented in the manual. please see that how much ram you can put into each bank
[09:32] <Daghdha> thanks k1l
[09:32] <Daghdha> Dimm slots 2, max mem.. hold on... EIGHT
[09:33] <Daghdha> so it's all futile :(
[09:33] <freespirit-girl> yes i know.. Is it possible for my phone to get hacked and then my computer?
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> Daghdha: ssd, swap space. it's gonna wear away fast but it's a substitute
[09:33] <salsero_> Daghdha: my mac has 16 even though Apple says 8 is the maximum supported, so you can have a shot
[09:33] <Daghdha> Supports two unbuffered DIMM of 1.5 Volt DDR3 800/1066/1333/1600*(OC) DRAM, 8GB Max
[09:33] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: i guess
[09:34] <Daghdha> It's ok now aeon-ltd but i was thinking of adding a 2nd VM too it but that will not be able to run.
[09:34] <aeon-ltd> new machine time !
[09:35] <Daghdha> nah :) Already ordered laptop.
[09:35] <aeon-ltd> new cluster time
[09:35] <Daghdha> Keep wallet closed a while :)
[09:35] <Daghdha> o_O pi cluster
[09:36] <freespirit-girl> I don't mean to sound awkward or real paranoid,  but I could see my friends son doing it to me
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: are you hot?
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> j/k
[09:37] <k1l> freespirit-girl: that could be a joke, too. best is to talk to that friend about that incident.
[09:37] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: yeah that's entirely possible, did you leave your ubuntu install open while he was there?
[09:37] <freespirit-girl> ohhhh, forget that
[09:38] <Daghdha> Mem:   8049168k total,  7593296k used,   455872k free,   371212k buffers
[09:39] <vorsprung> hi
[09:39] <Daghdha> That's 500Mb free, could run a 250mb VM i guess o_O :)
[09:39] <vorsprung> what day is 14.04, the new LTS being released?
[09:39] <DJones> vorsprung: 17th
[09:39] <aeon-ltd> tomorrow
[09:39] <k1l> vorsprung: 17th april. but dont expect it at 00:01 :)
[09:39] <vorsprung> DJones, aeon-ltd: thanks!
[09:40] <vorsprung> k1l, prolly not going to install for a few days after
[09:40] <k1l> Daghdha: please put "free -m" in a pastebin
[09:40] <vorsprung> k1l, despite it being LTS, there is bound to be some minor problem
[09:41] <vorsprung> k1l, could put it in a VM tho
[09:41] <Daghdha> k1l http://pastebin.com/qcgdtfR5
[09:41] <k1l> Daghdha: see the 2. line. its 1,4GB free ram
[09:42] <HackerII> huh, Testy-Bot , not nice
[09:42] <Daghdha> huh, i read: 380 free
[09:42] <Daghdha> or sum of last 3 columns?
[09:42] <k1l> Daghdha: see the 2. line, that is without buffers and cache
[09:42] <k1l> Daghdha: for explanaition see linuxatemyram.com
[09:43] <Daghdha> oh yes that is lin 3 though i was looking at line numbers :)
[09:43] <spiderlinux> hello
[09:43] <freespirit-girl> i bet my friends son did something like this to me.. i want to strangle him.. Darn it, why didn't i side swipe a wall on my way to the airport to drop him off ? i could kick myself!!    Hacking/Cracking a WPA/WEP encrypted WIFI network - Find WIFI Password Using Fern WIFI Cracker
[09:44] <aeon-ltd> wut
[09:44] <DJones> !ot | freespirit-girl
[09:45] <Elfuego> She seems kinda mad
[09:45] <freespirit-girl> i have been asking an Ubuntu question ... lol, no i am not
[09:46] <spiderlinux> El fuego = the fire?
[09:48] <aeon-ltd> no 'elf u ego'
[09:48] <freespirit-girl> why does How to Install Backtrack-Tools in Ubuntu and hack like a pro.... seem a little gimmicky to me
[09:48] <spiderlinux> Oh I see
[09:48] <ikonia> freespirit-girl: you don't install backtrack applications in ubuntu
[09:48] <spiderlinux> o.O
[09:49] <Pricey> freespirit-girl: Are you real?
[09:49] <Daghdha> k1l i opened system monitor and it also reflects what you told me. I have it at low interval and will see how high mem usage will go when it's actually doing a lot of work. Thanks for the help.
[09:49] <freespirit-girl> yes.. are you?
[09:49] <bigred15> there is nothing better in this world than mpd and ncmpcpp.
[09:49] <spiderlinux> O.o
[09:50] <spiderlinux> or try debian
[09:50] <freespirit-girl> are you trying to push a Ubuntu customer out the door spiderlinux ??
[09:51] <ikonia> freespirit-girl: what do you want - clearly
[09:51] <ikonia> freespirit-girl: please spell out the help you need from this channel
[09:51] <spiderlinux> xD no hard feelings
[09:52] <freespirit-girl> COMMANDS PROMPTS that identify if someone else is on my network besides me??
[09:52] <ikonia> freespirit-girl: it doesn't work like that
[09:52] <ikonia> freespirit-girl: what is the problem you want to resolve/fix
[09:53] <spiderlinux> ok google this
[09:53] <PircBot> ECHO ok google this
[09:53] <spiderlinux> Download All Commands You Need :
[09:53] <spiderlinux> 1) http://sh.st/qxB0O
[09:53] <spiderlinux> 2) http://sh.st/qxBul
[09:53] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: most routers have a page that can tell you connected devices
[09:54] <freespirit-girl> no way.. i think all this began because i went to a bad link
[09:54] <k1l> spiderlinux: stop that ads spamlinks
[09:54] <spiderlinux> Love you too bro!
[09:54] <ikonia> spiderlinux: can you please join the channel #ubuntu-ops for a moment please
[09:54] <spiderlinux> and sorry too
[09:55] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: so you got phished
[09:55] <freespirit-girl> aeon-ltd: I have looked.. there seems to be allot of unknown devices  .. if that makes since
[09:56] <aeon-ltd> freespirit-girl: now you have to find out how many of them are yours
[09:56] <Daghdha> What is  unity-scope-video-remote and why is it taking up 145Mb. Only search that helps me is that it's some video searching tool?
[09:58] <freespirit-girl> i guess i was .. I am guessing they caught A FEW SWORDFISH, Mahi Mahi AND YELLOW FIN
[09:59] <DJones> freespirit-girl: Please stay on topic
[10:00] <freespirit-girl> wouldn't it be easier to call my Internet provider for that? Sorry, some times i cease the moment
[10:01] <noodle> nobody in #ubuntu-id T_T
[10:01] <Daghdha> I guess i gotta do a sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-video-remote
[10:01] <Daghdha> From the posts i find it's a bit odd that i find this on a default ubuntu install, it searches youtube for every search i do locally??
[10:03] <freespirit-girl> i've got to get some sleep.. i am so tired .. I've changed my passwords like some suggested .. i will deal with this later
[10:04] <Daghdha> Apparently it does : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-video-remote/+bug/944251/comments/5
[10:04] <freespirit-girl> thank you
[10:04] <Daghdha> I think (Since i am only on VNC and don't mind fo reyecandy anyway) i can remove this package and system will still function? sudo apt-get remove unity-scope-video-remote
[10:05] <bekks> Daghdha: Then uninstall that package. The part "remote" implies that an outbound connection is actually wanted. :)
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: is this in Trusty ?
[10:06] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: I don't know what that means
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: if you run:  cat /etc/issue     what is output?
[10:07] <Daghdha> 12.04.04
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: that's fine, I suggest you subscribe to the bug and also report that it affects you too
[10:11] <Daghdha> Thanks ActionParsnip. i just uninstalled it , i have no clue what 'video lens' even is. So i am pretty sure i can live without that package. It's just a headless NAS i VNC into occasionally so video stuff is not needed. 150Mb of extra free mem is welcomed though.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: why do you need VNC on a NAS at all?
[10:13] <Elfuego> Command line too hard yo
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> Elfuego: its a NAS, once its doing NAS stuff you access your data and it does it's thing
[10:14] <Elfuego> ikr
[10:14] <Elfuego> I run a proper pc as a NAS :P
[10:14] <k1l> Daghdha: not even starting a desktop and running the system over ssh would save a lot of more ram
[10:16] <brontosaurusrex> Received a CTCP VERSION from Testy-Bot < yes, I'am complaining
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: what do you do on the system once you connect via VNC? There may be a sleeker solution
[10:17] <Johnny_Linux> i was wondering if that was protocol for that bot for all entries
[10:18] <Elfuego> I really wanna know how my dad manages to perma fill up his bloody ipad
[10:18] <Elfuego> I have ~15k songs on my iPhone and still have a ton of space
[10:18] <k1l> !ot | Elfuego
[10:19] <Elfuego> Ye i know i know
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Elfuego: then why type it all out if you know?
[10:22] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: I just run updates, VBox. I but i like a GUI. And it all works, i rather not tinker too much.
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: you can run updates with SSH:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: you run virtualbox on a NAS?
[10:22] <Daghdha> I know, i just like the comforts of GUI
[10:23] <Daghdha> yes, it's just a home NAS.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: but its using a tonne of resources, its also massively slow compared to the CLI way
[10:24] <Daghdha> ActionParsnip: I realize this, it's a trade off i will ing to do for the comfort of gui
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: strange rationale, but ok.
[10:25] <noodle> I get a problem when I trying to install lamp by tasksel, now if I want to install software by Ubuntu Software Center I get a message to repair : "New software can't be installed, because there is a problem with the software currently installed. Do you want to repair this problem now?"
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> noodle: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:26] <noodle> but when I press "Repair" The installation or removal of a software package failed
[10:26] <noodle> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> noodle: what does the topic of the channel say?
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> noodle: "Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS, 12.10 and 13.10 | Trusty/14.04 support/discussion: #ubuntu+1 | Trusty/14.04 preparty: #ubuntu-release-party :)]"
[10:28] <Kartagis> I connect a laptop disk with usb dongle, it says connected but not visible under /media/. any ideas?
[10:28] <noodle> this repair window always popup on my screen
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: can you see it with:   sudo fdisk -l
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> noodle: your release is not supported here yet
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> noodle: it is only supported in #ubuntu+1
[10:28] <noodle> may I downgrade my version?
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> noodle: you will need to reinstall from scratch
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> noodle: when the release is officially released, Trusty willbe supported here
[10:29] <noodle> ActionParsnip: ok, but I never use ubuntu before but I like this version. esspecialy for Ubuntu Software Center
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> noodle: this is all in the Topic which you either didnt read or ignored, so that people don't have to explain this to everyone
[10:30] <noodle> ActionParsnip: ok, I will reinstall now. thanks for the information
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> noodle: if you have never used Ubuntu I dont suggest you use any prerelease for a few releases
[10:30] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: yes, as /dev/sdk1
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> noodle: I suggest you reinstall with Precise which is LTS and supported til April 2017
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: can you mount it manually?
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: is it NTFS based
[10:31] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: yes, NTFS
[10:31] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: sorry, FAT32
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: when you last unplugged it, did you use the safe removal feature in your OS before unplugging it physically
[10:33] <redus> ciao
[10:33] <redus> !list
[10:34] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: I don't remember
[10:34] <ChefRayB> OerHeks,  Good Afternoon
[10:35] <redus> quit
[10:36] <RayXbmc> Can someone tell me how to enabled edit connections in nm-applet on a VNCSession ?  org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.conf  ?  I tried many configuration but it doesn't work.
[10:37] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: http://paste.debian.net/94029/
[10:38] <rullings> is there an easy way to configure the default items on the launcher on the guest account?
[10:39] <rullings> I've made a prefs.sh that managed to remove everything, I'm thinking I'm making a really silly mistake
[10:40] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: gparted said unknown file system tho
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: sounds like you didn't
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: you may want to fsck the partition if it is fat32
[10:49] <Guest18261> Booo
[10:49] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: I formatted it anyway
[10:49] <Kartagis> thanks tho
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: remember to _always_ use the sae remove feature. It's there for a reason
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> *safe
[10:50] <Guest18261> Boo
[10:53] <cfhowlett> Guest18261 ask your ubuntu support questions
[10:53] <Guest18261> I don't have one.
[10:54] <Guest18261> I just come here to see a chat room bubbling with activity.
[11:08] <pasol> In which dir do applications go in? Just unzipped thunderbird, where do I mv it to?
[11:09] <pasol> the thunderbird dir that is, not the application itself
[11:09] <k1l> pasol: why dont you just install it from the ubuntu repos?
[11:10] <pasol> didn't know if it was up to date
[11:10] <k1l> sudo apt-get install thunderbird
[11:10] <pasol> for future reference, where would I put the dir and the application?
[11:10] <k1l> pasol: to load stuff from websites instead of using the supported ubuntu packages is a bad windows habbit
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> pasol: it goes all over the OS, its not like in Windows where the majority of an instal goes to one folder
[11:12]  * ichat agrees with  k1l  if its not in the repo's  look for a  PPA if there is no ppa, than ask the dev for a debian/ubuntu package,  if its not than read the documentation on how to build your own packages
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> pasol: the version of thunderbird is tried and tested in Ubuntu
[11:15] <linuxlite1983> kll you use linux lite?
[11:16] <k1l> linuxlite1983: nope. that linux lite is not supported in here anyways
[11:16] <linuxlite1983> kll oh, theres someone in #linux lite with your same screen name. Thought it was you
[11:21] <phr34k> hey guys, i'm having trouble setting up DELL monitor u2412m on Ubuntu 12.04, it seems that "xrandr --newmode "1920x1200" 153.00 1920 1968 2000 2080 1200 1203 1209 1235 -HSync +VSync" gets me the closest to a working resolution, but the letters are still slightly blurred, can anyone point me in the right direction?
[11:21] <phr34k> the cvt and gtf autogenerated parameters cause red lines and flickering
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> phr34k: what video chip are you using?
[11:23] <phr34k> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics Controller (rev 09) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
[11:23] <phr34k> intelhd4000
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> phr34k: have yhou tried the Intel Driver Inataller app
[11:24] <phr34k> i wasnt aware there was one
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> phr34k: yeah, omgubuntu go on about it lots, search the web and you'll find it eeasily
[11:24] <phr34k> thx
[11:27] <clamiax> hi
[11:28] <phr34k> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 12.04 intel graphic installer release is deprecated, could using a 13.10 have sideffects? or is that something i have to take a chance on
[11:28] <clamiax> I'm googling around from about 2 days but without results. The problem is that upgrading to 13.10 with chromium-browser 33.0.1750.152 I  have weird behaviour
[11:29] <clamiax> E.g.: the hover doesn't update the cursor or the page layout are weird since I don't zoom out, then zoom in
[11:29] <phr34k> clamiax, ubuntu 14 is comming out tomorrow i think
[11:29] <johndropper> No
[11:29] <clamiax> and lots of other little problems like this. I tried to open the same problematic page in incognito and rm's the ~/.config/chormium-browser directory but without results
[11:29] <clamiax> phr34k: that sounds good, but don't looks like a solution.
[11:30] <clamiax> phr34k: also I'm not sure chromium-browser is updated on 14.04.
[11:30] <clamiax> Does anyone have the same problems I have?
[11:30] <rullings> hey, aren't guest sessions supposed to be able to use external HDDs/pen drives, stuff like that?
[11:31] <rullings> I have an external HDD that the guest session can't access
[11:31] <cfhowlett> rullings guest = very limited access
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> phr34k: how do you mean 'using a 13.10' ?
[11:32] <phr34k> ActionParsnip: Graphics Installer for Ubuntu* 13.10, 64-bit
[11:32] <rullings> cfhowlett: sure, but they're supposed to be able to read/write on external drives, surely?
[11:33] <phr34k> ActionParsnip: the Ubuntu 12.04 installer reached its EOF in may 2013 :/
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> phr34k: likely be bad as the XOrg version is different
[11:33] <cfhowlett> rullings by default - no.  NO system privileges for guest access
[11:34] <rullings> is there an easy way to remedy this?
[11:34] <cfhowlett> rullings sure.  make a very low level account for your guest users
[11:35] <angch> clamiax, randomly, yes. 14.04 (12.04 a week ago). similar issues with chrome. i think it's chrome/chromium related as the problem is only to do with one or two tabs. e.g. hover doesn't highlight links on on tab, but does on another.
[11:35] <rullings> cfhowlett: the only problem with the guest account right now is this, everything else works as intended, wouldn't that be counter-intuitve?
[11:35] <rullings> I don't want a standard user, I want the sessions to be wiped after use
[11:35] <angch> to be precise (hah), i had random issues in 12.04 and also 14.04.
[11:36] <clamiax> angch: yes, I was suspect that 14.04 doesn't solve the problem since chromium should be exactly the same version (the latest).
[11:36] <cfhowlett> rullings I imagine it's possible to edit the default guest properties but that's beyond my knowledge. sorry.
[11:36] <rullings> I've already edited quite a bit, but permissions are beyond me
[11:36] <clamiax> angch: though with Google Chrome I can't reproduce the problem.
[11:37] <angch> clamiax, opening a new tab, then copy/paste the same location seems to make some problems go away. and i'm on chrome rather than chromium.
[11:37] <clamiax> angch: you are right, but the problem will come again after a while :(
[11:37] <clamiax> angch: I'm considering downgrade chromium, if easily feasible
[11:38] <cappe> I'm having issues with openarena, it is dark-screened (possibly due to a bug) and I don't know who I should contact. Has anyone of you guys had the same problem and possibly fixed it as well?
[11:38] <angch> clamiax, I can't consistently reproduce either. Very annoying. Worse is when a tab somehow grabbed a key or mouse, and I have to use something to switch to another tab then back to unstick it.
[11:39] <angch> i'm on chrome 34. so upgrading chromium might not help.
[11:40] <clamiax> angch: ah
[11:40] <clamiax> angch: It would be great to understand if it's strictly a chrome/chromium bug or a bug in some library they uses
[11:40] <clamiax> angch: since then, I think I'll switch version or worse browser.
[11:40] <angch> clamiax, there *could* be conflicts with chrome/ium and the wm (i'm on unity), so but i don't think so as sometimes the problem is isolated in a single tab.
[11:41] <angch> fastest workaround (i really like chrome's js debugging) is to reopen the tab's location in another tab.
[11:41] <clamiax> angch: well, I guess the WM is not a problem since I'm using dwm right now which is very unobtrusive
[11:41] <phr34k> ActionParsnip: would it be a bad idea to use this: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads/2013/intelr-graphics-installer-1.0-linux
[11:42] <angch> clamiax, you mentioned page layout being weird. I don't seem to get that. can you elaborate?
[11:43] <angch> my problems are generally related to mouse/keyboard not triggering anything/feedback from the tab's contents.
[11:43] <clamiax> angch: image not loaded, text not visible, elements are not where they should be. It looks like a rendering issue.
[11:43] <clamiax> angch: sometimes the invisible text gets visible when I hover it with the mouse
[11:44] <angch> clamiax, weird. I don't recall having that problem.
[11:44] <angch> Might also be that I'm too fast to knee jerk a page refresh if I don't see contents on a page properly.
[11:46] <clamiax> angch: brb
[11:48] <bartzy> Hello
[11:49] <bartzy> Using Ubuntu 14.04, I cannot login via SSH (public key) to a set of servers (to others I can). However, with the same computer, same network, and Ubuntu 13.10 (live CD), I can login successfully to these servers.
[11:49] <bartzy> Anything changed with 14.04? The SSH client, firewalls, anything ? :|
[11:49] <bartzy> Any configuration perhaps that the default has changed for it and may cause these issues ?
[11:50] <DJones> bartzy: Probably best asking in #ubuntu+1, thats still the support channel for 14.04 until its released
[11:50] <bartzy> DJones: OK, thanks, will do. If anyone here can think of anything that would be great.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> bartzy: #ubuntu+1 for Trusty support til release day
[11:52] <chronic52> how can I look at time consumed by past processes ?
[11:53] <navalastro> unopaste
[11:54] <navalastro> hey
[11:54] <_2_Fabie> hii
[11:55] <navalastro> q tal
[11:55] <navalastro> spanish or inglish
[11:55] <MonkeyDust> chronic52  try    dmesg -T
[11:55] <_2_Fabie> english
[11:55] <DJones> !es | navalastro This channel is English only, however,
[11:55] <navalastro> yes ok
[11:57] <OerHeks> chronic52, open terminal, find the PID, and enter:  ps -p <PID> -o etime=
[11:57] <OerHeks> etime = elapsed time
[11:57] <navalastro> why
[11:58] <chronic52> OerHeks, but how will I get the PID of any terminated process ?
[11:58] <navalastro> do you know speak french?
[11:58] <OerHeks> chronic52, any terminated process have no elapsed time, it is finished\
[11:58] <OerHeks> process gone, time gone
[11:59] <chronic52> OerHeks, but linux must be keeping log of past process
[11:59] <cfhowlett> chronic52 might ask the experts in #linux
[12:00] <navalastro> Linux is not good
[12:00] <cfhowlett> navalastro you don't have to use it.
[12:01] <OerHeks> navalastro, do you have a support question or just ranting around?
[12:02] <navalastro> why do you say that
[12:02] <cfhowlett> navalastro ask your ubuntu questions
[12:02] <navalastro> nothing thank
[12:05] <jeopad1> anonymous cambodia threatening by Cambodia cyber police please help
[12:06] <cfhowlett> !details|jeopad1
[12:06] <navalastro> can i speak spanish?
[12:06] <OerHeks> navalastro, no, english only please
[12:07] <DJones> navalastro: As the bot told you earlier, #ubuntu-es for chat in spanish
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> navalastro  type /join #ubuntu-es
[12:07] <cfhowlett> navalastro as you've been told repeatedly, no.  this is the english channel.  go to #ubuntu-es
[12:08] <navalastro> ok
[12:08] <navalastro> there is a french chat?
[12:08] <cfhowlett> !fr
[12:08] <DJones> !fr | navalastro
[12:10] <MohammadAG> so, day 2 of my questions on my hangin
[12:10] <MohammadAG> ...g server
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !server|MohammadAG
[12:10] <MohammadAG> I left it on a memtest overnight, 22 passes
[12:10] <MohammadAG> cfhowlett that's irrelevant to the issue
[12:10] <MohammadAG> it's running ubuntu desktop edition to be more precise
[12:11] <cfhowlett> MohammadAG then why did you say it was  a server issue?
[12:11] <MohammadAG> cause I use the thing as a personal server
[12:12] <MohammadAG> anyway, it seems like apache2 and mysqld are always the first processes to take the thing down
[12:12] <MohammadAG> which either means for some reason, RAM usage spiked beyond the 2GBs of RAM, or something's wrong with those processes
[12:12] <MohammadAG> this started after I upgraded everything after the heartbleed exploit
[12:14] <aryan_> how can i check that my cmos battery is down
[12:14] <MohammadAG> pull power for a while and check if the time persists I guess
[12:26] <cisconinja> good morning folks
[12:26] <OerHeks> hi cisconinja
[12:29] <cisconinja_> i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1M how long should it take to finish on 1 TB HDD
[12:30] <OerHeks> cisconinja_, long time, increase bs=4M or 64M ?
[12:30] <Guest80605> ./newroot /dev/sr/0 /sys /proc
[12:30] <cisconinja_> OerHeks: my understanding was my command will only clear the 1st 1 mb :S
[12:32] <OerHeks> bs is block size  to copy, not just the first 1 Mb of your drive
[12:34] <geirha> cisconinja_: If you find the pid of that dd command, you can do  kill -USR1 $pid  to have dd output some progress
[12:34] <OerHeks> geirha, nice one +1
[12:35] <cisconinja_> geirha: how would i find thatpid
[12:35] <ihre> pgrep dd
[12:35] <cisconinja_> ps -ef
[12:36] <ihre> then watch -n3 kill -USR1 $pid
[12:36] <yvette> hello just doing a test ;-)
[12:36] <cisconinja_> pgrep dd returned 5 pid
[12:36] <yvette> showing an elderly women what irc ics
[12:37] <geirha> ps -efH | less +/dd
[12:37] <geirha> hit 'n' until you find the right one
[12:37] <ihre> why not grep dd then ?
[12:38] <geirha> ihre: using less like that gives more context; e.g. you can see the parents, which makes it easier to identify the right one
[12:38] <Lartza> update-locale is not editing /etc/default/locale?
[12:38] <Lartza> just empty file
[12:39] <lugal> what to do when I get this warning from rkhunter? [19:27:14] Warning: Network TCP port 1524 is being used by /usr/sbin/portsentry. Possible rootkit: Possible FreeBSD (FBRK) Rootkit backdoor
[12:39] <lugal>            Use the 'lsof -i' or 'netstat -an' command to check this.
[12:41] <llutz> geirha: what about just      pgrep -f "dd.*/dev/zero"
[12:41] <Ntemis> hello
[12:41] <cisconinja_> geirha: now please explain kill -USR1 $pid
[12:41] <cisconinja_> pfff never mind
[12:41] <Ntemis> need help with mdadm raid 5 and grub
[12:42] <Ntemis> raid knows the disk but the partition on it is not added to the raid
[12:42] <llutz> cisconinja_: "man dd | less -p USR1"    and "man signal"
[12:42] <Ntemis> i need to grow the raid somehow?
[12:43] <Ntemis> Partitions in RAID 	SATA device B partition 1 SATA device C SATA device D partition 1 SATA device E partition 1
[12:44] <Ntemis> you can see device c problem :)
[12:44] <whoalin> hey :-)
[12:44] <geirha> llutz: Sure. It's mostly a matter of taste
[12:45] <GODLUDO> Coucou
[12:47] <llutz> lugal: if you intentionally run portsentry and you're sure it is a "clean" version, just ignore rkhunters false positive
[12:48] <llutz> lugal: iirc you can whitelist portsentry in rkhunter.conf "APP_WHITELIST=..."
[12:48] <spidernet> lugal: just check the outgoing and incoming ports on your firewall to not that the portsentry is not sending any weird info across..
[12:49] <lugal> spidernet how do I check?
[12:50] <whoalin> yay lag
[12:51] <fabrizio> hi, italy?
[12:51] <spidernet> lugal: wat firewall are u using? if u have firestarter which is a gui-front end to the ufw then u can check..  but if u are not really using the portsentry then disable it.. either with update-rc.d -f portsentry remove  OR service portsentry stop
[12:51] <DJones> fabrizio: #ubuntu-it for Italian language support
[12:51] <fabrizio> tnx
[12:52] <lugal> spiedernet, I installed iptables, but dont know how to use it, I can tinstall firestarter on my mint system
[12:52] <s9iper1> how to increase  ubuntu system partition after install,, actually my space is getting low is there any way that i can give it more space from other partition  like in windows ??
[12:52] <lugal> spidernet, is there any good alternative to firestarter for mint?
[12:53] <cfhowlett> !mint|lugal you'll need to ask in the mint channel as it's not supported here.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> s9iper1: uninstall old kernels, you wiull get lots of space back
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> lugmint isnt supported here
[12:58] <salsero_> s9iper1: localepurge
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> s9iper1: sudo apt-get clean    can help too
[12:59] <s9iper1> Actionparsnip: if i delete kernel than system is going to crash
[12:59] <meet_praveen> how can i access a directory of admin user from login from another user of same system
[12:59] <meet_praveen> ?
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> s9iper1: not if you remove old kernels. do not remove the kernel you are on
[13:00] <compdoc> meet_praveen, tried: sudo su
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> s9iper1: dpkg -l | grep linux-image    willl show all the installed kernels. If you run:   uname -a    it will show the current kernel. You can remove all the old kernels you no longer use and get 120Mb / kernel in space back
[13:02] <OerHeks> all the old kernels, except the current and the one before that ( you would get an arror anyway)
[13:02] <t4ng0> oi I cant wait for the 14.0 LTS
[13:02] <compdoc> one more day, oi
[13:02] <Ntemis> should wait for 14.01 imo
[13:02] <t4ng0> compdoc: lol
[13:03] <s9iper1> ActionParsnip 120 MB is not enough i need more space. is there not any way to get more space from other partition like in window 7 ?
[13:03] <t4ng0> but yet i dont like the new desktop environment lol
[13:03] <t4ng0> umm one question when i install steam?,   the ubuntu will play on steam games?
[13:03] <meet_praveen> compdoc: can't i set from properteis->permissions of directory?
[13:04] <Ntemis> any raid experts here?
[13:04] <Ntemis> mdadm actually
[13:04] <compdoc> meet_praveen, changing permissions of all the files and folders could get messy
[13:04] <cfhowlett> !steam|t4ng0
[13:04] <compdoc> meet_praveen, you dont intend for them to use it again?
[13:06] <meet_praveen> compdoc: actually i want common access of that(one) folder for all user
[13:06] <compdoc> meet_praveen, oh. I didnt understand
[13:08] <frankS2> Hi, it seems like this package have disappeared from the arvhices http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/amd64/libaugeas-ruby1.9.1/download
[13:08] <meet_praveen> compdoc: my requirement is that  there should be a common directory in the system in which every user can edit/create files
[13:10] <meet_praveen> compdoc: u can say a public directory like in windows
[13:10] <compdoc> meet_praveen, thats just permissions. You might create a group, and add that group's permissions to the directory
[13:11] <Pici> frankS2: you mean in newer releases of Ubuntu?
[13:11] <frankS2> Pici: no, i mean in 12.04
[13:11] <frankS2> Pici: its like it has been removed from the package list in the repo or something
[13:12] <meet_praveen> compdoc: ubuntu dosen't have public directory?
[13:12] <smartracer> hi put ubuntu inside my pendrive but its not booting.my pendrive is not booting.what can i do?
[13:13] <compdoc> meet_praveen, Ive never heard of one, but Ive never researched that
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> s9if you have 10 excess kernels that is 1200Mb or 1.2Gb
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> oh well
[13:14] <m0e42> is the stick recognized by your bios? how you wrote the sys in the stick
[13:14] <Pici> frankS2: those links work for me.
[13:14] <smartracer> i wrote using unetboootin
[13:14] <frankS2> Pici: the links work, but is it in your repo? :)
[13:14] <smartracer> stick is recognised by bios but after selecting that os is not booting.empty black screen appears
[13:15] <smartracer> even with anyother os its also doing same
[13:15] <m0e42> secure boot on?
[13:15] <Pici> frankS2: yes. I just was able to  apt-get download libaugeas-ruby on one of my 12.04 installs
[13:15] <smartracer> what?
[13:15] <OerHeks> smartracer, uefi bios by any chance?
[13:15] <smartracer> no
[13:15] <m0e42> or uefi? maybe thats stoping the stick from boot
[13:16] <smartracer> before some months it worked good.booted ubuntu and many.but now only it making problems
[13:18] <m0e42> tried booting an win8 image? if this works then it's mainly a secure boot problem
[13:21] <smartracer> no ubuntu image.i already did win 8 before 2 months.it worked good
[13:25] <m0e42> so if the win8 image works it really seems like a secure boot prob
[13:27] <OerHeks> smartracer, did you ever used nomodeset?
[13:33] <viccuad> Hi, I have tried the ubuntu gnome 13.10 and 14.04 installers, both normal and Live cd, and they get stuck in the 2nd GUI       npm
[13:33] <viccuad>                                           step. the ISO's checksum are fine, I also run the installer on the terminal, and also looked the installer debug info (at      ph1
[13:33] <viccuad>                                           /var/log/installer/debug) and nothing. Has anyone have this problem? thanks
[13:33] <viccuad> oh fuck.. sorry
[13:35] <viccuad> here is more clearly: Hi,I have tried the ubuntu gnome 13.10 and 14.10 installers, both normal and Live cd, and they get stuck in the 2nd GUI step. The checksums are fine. I also tried the installer on the terminal, and also looked at /var/log/installer/debug and nothing. does anyone have this problem? thanks in advance
[13:36] <angs> I run "sudo dpkg --add-architecture armel" but it outputs "W: Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/dists/saucy/Release  Unable to find expected entry 'partner/binary-armel/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file)" on apt-get update on 13.10. how do I add armel architecture packages on the source list
[13:36] <angs> I run it on x64 pc
[13:40] <carmensita> hello
[13:41] <OerHeks> angs isn't it armhf  ?
[13:43] <snufft> stupid question, but \n is the only thing you need for a new line in linux isn't it?
[13:43] <angs> OerHeks, the architecture is armel, do I need to type armhf anyway?
[13:43] <OerHeks> angs, not sure if you need armel or armhf for 64 bit, you might want to reask in #ubuntu-arm
[13:44] <angs> thanks
[13:46] <viccuad> snufft: I would say yes. theres also carriage return, instead of newline \n IIRC
[13:51] <geirha> snufft: Yes, \n in unix and unix-like systems, including linux and mac osx,  \r\n in dos/windows,  \r in old mac os
[13:54] <JaySlaven> i am having problems with my pci-e adapter for ubuntu. i get kicked off but none of the windows ones do
[14:04] <giorgia9> Is ubuntu (or lubuntu) installable on the notebook Devo Evodroid N13  ?
[14:06] <snufft> viccuad, geirha thanks heaps :)
[14:06] <Neptu> Hej im trying for a while to have my android phone accessible for my computer and is beeing a mess
[14:07] <cfhowlett> Neptu MTP
[14:07] <Neptu> I followed the tuto and I do the lines on the udev but still is not working
[14:07] <Neptu> cfhowlett, Im not interested on connecting to the device im interested on flashing and operating it throw the sdk
[14:07] <giorgia9> Devo Evodroid N13 comes with android (is this sufficient to conclude that ubuntu can be installed on it? if not, how to know?)
[14:07] <OerHeks> giorgia9, you will need an arm version for that, ARM Cortex A9
[14:08] <Neptu> cfhowlett, I do not find any reference to MTP anywere in the tutorials
[14:08] <OerHeks> giorgia9, join #ubuntu-arm
[14:08] <giorgia9> OerHeks: thankyou but sorry i am a beginner, what do you mean?
[14:08] <OerHeks> !arm
[14:08] <cfhowlett> Neptu search online: mtp android ubuntu
[14:09] <Neptu> cfhowlett, already had mtp and mtp-tools and so on
[14:09] <OerHeks> giorgia9, ARM is possible, but not with the standard ubuntu for intel/amd
[14:10] <giorgia9> ok thank you. But do you think it's something possible to do for a beginner?
[14:10] <Neptu> cfhowlett, have all i need already that not seems to be the problem
[14:10] <giorgia9> I mean is it a difficult install to do?
[14:11] <OerHeks> giorgia9, sure, it is doable for you, the guys in #ubuntu-arm can help you better with this than me
[14:11] <giorgia9> ok thank you bye bye :)
[14:11] <OerHeks> giorgia9, have fun
[14:12] <viccuad> I'm sorry to ask again
[14:12] <viccuad> here is more clearly: Hi,I have tried the ubuntu gnome 13.10 and 14.10 installers, both normal and Live cd, and they get stuck in the 2nd GUI step. The checksums are fine. I also tried the installer on the terminal, and also looked at /var/log/installer/debug and nothing. does anyone have this problem? thanks in advance
[14:15] <altaryBeastiful_> hey
[14:15] <altaryBeastiful_> got an apt-get crashes since this morning
[14:15] <bekks> viccuad: you can try the server iso as well, and just install a desktop afterwards
[14:15] <viccuad> bekks: Thatnks, I will try
[14:15] <altaryBeastiful_> any apt-get get this message : http://askubuntu.com/questions/448575/apt-get-crashes-with-relocation-error-libapt-pkg-so-4-12
[14:16] <altaryBeastiful_> anybody else has trouble ?
[14:16] <bekks> altaryBeastiful_: can you pastebin "apt-cache policy libc6" please?
[14:16] <Faux> altaryBeastiful_: Nope, x86_64 14.04 updated at lunchtime and it's fine.  Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[14:17] <altaryBeastiful_> yes rebooted twice
[14:17] <altaryBeastiful_> Faux: is there any other way to get more info on this ?
[14:17] <altaryBeastiful_> seeing that any apt-get command crashes
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> altaryBeastiful_  try   sudo apt-get update     same error?
[14:18] <bekks> altaryBeastiful_: can you pastebin "apt-cache policy libc6" please?
[14:18] <altaryBeastiful_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MHMxilXT
[14:19] <altaryBeastiful_> MonkeyDust: yup even `sudo apt-get` gets it
[14:19] <bekks> altaryBeastiful_: Can you try to pastebin "dpkg -l grep libc6" instead?
[14:19] <Faux> I think you dropped a pipe there, bekks.
[14:19] <altaryBeastiful_> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/tFtwUHfQ
[14:20] <angch> altaryBeastiful_, if it complains about symbol "DDDDD....." sounds like something is corrupted.
[14:20] <Faux> Oh, it works anyway!
[14:20] <bekks> altaryBeastiful_: and pastebin "cat /etc/release" please, too
[14:21] <angch> altaryBeastiful_, if you had "debsums" installed (doubtful :( ) you might wanna run it to check the files that's already installed if they matched the checksums.
[14:21] <altaryBeastiful_> $ sudo cat /etc/release
[14:21] <altaryBeastiful_> cat: /etc/release: No such file or directory
[14:21] <altaryBeastiful_> bekks: normal ? im on 14.04 64bits
[14:21] <MonkeyDust> altaryBeastiful_  cat /etc/issue
[14:21] <bekks> !trusty | altaryBeastiful_
[14:22] <angch> altaryBeastiful_, grab another apt-get .deb and libapt-pkg .deb from an archive and force dpkg -i it?
[14:22] <altaryBeastiful_> MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[14:22] <altaryBeastiful_> ubottu: haaa ok
[14:22] <MonkeyDust> altaryBeastiful_  see above, type /join #ubuntu+1
[14:23]  * altaryBeastiful_ should always read the topic
[14:24] <utusan> but after tomorrow, it should be here already.  it's about time it should transition to 14.04 by now?
[14:24] <ansel> hi
[14:25] <utusan> looks like it's set as I don't see anymore updates since yesterday
[14:27] <utusan> altaryBeastiful_: your libc6 is 1 version old. should be  2.19-0ubuntu6
[14:27] <altaryBeastiful_> utusan: okay so manually install the .deb and it should feel better?
[14:28] <utusan> altaryBeastiful_: do apt-cache policy libc6
[14:28] <phao> HEy. WHat is the name of a program runner, like what you get when you hit alt-f2 in gnome or xfce?
[14:29] <lawnewbie> test
[14:29] <lawnewbie> good night everyone :D
[14:29] <linuxlite1983> night
[14:29] <utusan> good morning linuxlite1983
[14:30] <utusan> good morning lawnewbie
[14:30] <linuxlite1983> morning to u on your timezone
[14:31] <Joel> is there a way to get apt-key to show the 16 digit key id?
[14:32] <utusan> Joel: apt-ket list
[14:32] <Joel> utusan ....
[14:32] <utusan> apt-key*
[14:32] <Joel> that only shows me 8.
[14:34] <utusan> this is for ubuntu archive - pub   1024D/437D05B5 2004-09-12
[14:34] <ljsoftnet> is glx and fglrx the same?
[14:34] <Dreadlish> nope.
[14:36] <linuxlite1983> when you ubuntu update your going to be slower then a snail! any way to get a faster update server?
[14:36] <Joel> utusan, right, so apt-key still isn't the answer, apparently.
[14:37] <salsero_> linuxlite1983: under synaptic you can find your best/fastest server
[14:37] <linuxlite1983> ?
[14:37] <utusan> Joel: try export
[14:38] <utusan> exportall
[14:38] <utusan> sorry output is gibberish
[14:39] <lawnewbie> hei, i need some recomendation from you
[14:39] <kupo_> alrighty
[14:39] <lawnewbie> razer kraken or razer kraken pro ? better?
[14:41] <linuxlite1983> how do i find that salsero_ ?
[14:42] <utusan> linuxlite1983: I'm sure it would even be much slower tomorrow and few days after release
[14:42] <salsero_> settings, repository, Download from, other, select best server
[14:46] <phao> Hey. I've just set a new keyboard shortcut... but it doesn't seem to work. Simply going to the keyboard item in the system configuration panel, and then shortcuts tab, and then adding a new shortcut with the '+' button enough?
[14:46] <phao> I mean, is it enough to just do that?
[14:49] <xevwork> With ufw, can I limit ssh from all IPs *except* a specific CIDR mask?
[14:50] <linuxlite1983> night
[14:51] <phao> Hey. I've just set a new keyboard shortcut... but it doesn't seem to work. Is simply going to the keyboard item in the system configuration panel, and then shortcuts tab, and then adding a new shortcut with the '+' button enough?
[14:52] <linuxlite1983> salsero_,  how do i fin a update server minorr list?
[14:53] <kupo_> open synaptic and go to respistories section
[14:54] <kupo_> you'll see a list. i usually just stick with american server myself
[14:54] <linuxlite1983> updates take forever. how do i speed them up?
[14:54] <kupo_> well. updates working fine for me. just got 2 MB speed
[14:54] <salsero_> if you're not in the USA, you might find useful to choose one close to you
[14:55] <linuxlite1983> utusan,  well thats why im tryin to include a differnct server.
[14:56] <utusan> or find one that is low user like say mongolia?  he he he
[14:56] <linuxlite1983> kupo_,  that american server is giving me 55kbs slower then dialup!
[14:57] <angch> Dunno how official, but: http://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt
[14:57] <linuxlite1983> utusan,  then how do i find a server list so i can change it?
[14:57] <utack> would rather install ubuntu in uefi mode or in legacy mode? i have to make a decision and i don't know what is better
[14:57] <angch> should show you the mirrors geo closest (?) to you.
[14:58] <lawnewbie> do you know how to change the theme of taskbar?
[14:58] <linuxlite1983> utack,  google it before you do, then try them both with a differnct instal for each option
[14:58] <utack> linuxlite1969, google results were "both work". but nothing specific about upsides and downsides
[14:59] <angch> linuxlite1969, then from that list of mirrors, update your /etc/apt/sources.list accordingly.
[14:59] <utack> last i had uefi and it worked. so i guess i will choose it again
[15:01] <linuxlite1983> angch, well us server and the main server are listed ,but im trying to add more to option,manually.
[15:02] <utusan> linuxlite1983: ususally servers are http://<country_code>.archive.ubuntu.com
[15:02] <angch> linuxlite1983, (wait, why so many linuxlites?) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors pick one
[15:03] <linuxlite1983> angch,  lol that just one person , me
[15:04] <linuxlite3> hi
[15:04] <angch> x-chat is horrible at autocompleting similar names....
[15:04] <DanC> if I do `ssh host1`, shouldn't it check in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts? er... oh... maybe I set the permissions wrong...
[15:05] <salsero_> it should
[15:05] <mheinke> morning!
[15:05] <DanC> I did `sudo cp ssh_known_hosts /etc/ssh` ... so it was only readable by root. silly me.
[15:05] <linuxlite3> DanC,  alot of the goodly skill person are away.. come back in 4-16 hours to find more ppl that can answer you.
[15:05] <salsero_> you should utack
[15:06] <DanC> I'm all set. thanks.
[15:06] <utack> salsero_, you think uefi is the right choice if it worked before?
[15:06] <linuxlite3> i am a noob
[15:06] <salsero_> ye
[15:06] <utack> ok thx
[15:06] <salsero_> i migrated to uefi recently from msdos mode
[15:06] <linuxlite3> try it if you dont have nothing much to lose
[15:07] <angch> interesting. http://mvogt.wordpress.com/2011/03/21/the-apt-mirror-method/ didn't know this.
[15:08] <Mikerhinos> hi
[15:10] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i downloaded the ubuntu iso, and the SHA256SUM file and the .GPG whne typing it gpg --verify SHA256SUMS.gpg SHA256SUMS i keep getting gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found
[15:12] <viccuad> is there a package to select to install an ubuntu gnome in an ubuntu server?
[15:12] <lawnewbie> hei i have a question :D anybody can help me ?
[15:12] <MonkeyDust> lawnewbie  let's hear it
[15:13] <bigred15> Depends on the question :)
[15:13] <salsero_> viccuad: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[15:13] <dutchuss2016> does any one know how i can get unity web player working on kubuntu
[15:13] <viccuad> salsero_: it seems is ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[15:13] <lawnewbie> before i used Ubuntu, i used Windows 7. my laptop if i use to long time, dont heat anymore.
[15:13] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:13] <lawnewbie> but, when i used ubuntu, the heat to fast to increase
[15:14] <viccuad> is that enough to replicate an ubuntu gnome desktop, or do I need to do something more?
[15:14] <RayXbmc> I don't want to reboot my machine each time I want to test a new setting change inside the file  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:14] <salsero_> that should be it
[15:14] <francy> ciao
[15:14] <kern> I can't figure out how to autostart redis on the ubuntu vagrant cloud image for 14.04
[15:14] <viccuad> salsero_: thanks
[15:14] <kern> everything seems fine but redis just does not start
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> kern  #ubuntu+1 for 14.04
[15:14] <kern> kk
[15:15] <francy> ciao
[15:15] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie: Windows 7 doesn't heat laptops....(most of the time), it heated because of the @#$ flash plugin inside any browser.....
[15:15] <francy> ciao
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> francy  it works, we see you
[15:15] <RayXbmc> Anybody here can tell which process to restart to refresh policy ? (e. /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy)
[15:15] <lawnewbie> but i used flash plugin when i with Windows
[15:16] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie, that's why it heated..... it's not windows 7....
[15:16] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys I downloaded the Ubuntu iso and am trying to follow (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToSHA256SUM) these instructions in order to check the SHA256SUMS and instead of getting Good Signature it keeps suggesting that the public key cannot be found how can I go about getting Ubuntus Public Key
[15:16] <floq> hello
[15:16] <lawnewbie> RayXbmc: so thats not my laptop problem right?
[15:16] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,   Trust me, I have been using windows since windows 3.0 ( ms dos), windows 7 is actually one of the good operating system in all windows releases..... after sp3 it's stable for windows world....
[15:17] <francy> hello
[15:17] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie: it's easy to know when a laptop heat...look in your task manager, see the process going 100 % cpu and if it's IE or mozilla , then mostly it's flash...disable the flash plugin... if the cpu goes down...you found the problem.
[15:18] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,   Anyody here familiar with policy process in ubuntu...(e.g.  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy)
[15:18] <lawnewbie> ohh, thanks Ray, i think the problem is on my Ice Cool. thanks for information :D
[15:19] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,  ice cool ?
[15:19] <francy> 안녕하세요
[15:19] <RayXbmc> lawnewbie,  uh ?
[15:19] <francy> cześć
[15:20] <lawnewbie> my laptop have Ice Cool, so it not easy to heat
[15:22] <Quitifolen> hi
[15:23] <lawnewbie> hi Quiti
[15:23] <Quitifolen> hi lawney
[15:23] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys I am using Ubuntu 12.04.4 when is it going to be time to upgrade for me to 14.04?
[15:24] <lawnewbie> same like me psil0 :D
[15:24] <Psil0Cybin> xD
[15:24] <Psil0Cybin> times a waiting :D
[15:26] <lawnewbie> yeah, why u want to upgrade ur OS ?
[15:26] <Quitifolen> tomorrow  14.04 is released:
[15:26] <Quitifolen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseSchedule
[15:27] <k1l> Psil0Cybin: i am not sure if the LTS to LTS upgrade path will only be opened after 14.04.1 is released
[15:28] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:30] <didier_> hello
[15:36] <jhutchins> k1l: One would think they would have wanted to test that before the release.
[15:36] <jhutchins> k1l: I know the EFI installer isn't 100% yet.
[15:37] <k1l> jhutchins: the upgrade get automated testing (besides the bug reports from users). but officially 14.04 will be LTS when comming to 14.04.1. the 10.04 to 12.04 upgrade path was opened when 12.04 became 12.04.1, too
[15:38] <RayXbmc> Greetings, can someone tell me what process I need to bounce to refresh  /usr/share/polkit-1/actions/org.freedesktop.network-manager-settings.system.policy
[15:40] <sakang> dpkg-reconfigure policykit?
[15:47] <linuxlite3> HOW TO SET UP FTP SERVER AND CLIENT OVER LAN?
[15:47] <Membear> keep yelling and it will just happen
[15:48] <k1l> linuxlite1969: no need for caps
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: why ftp? Its garbage
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: what OS is the server, what OS is the client?
[15:52] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04
[15:52] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04 32 bit  i5
[15:54] <User895> stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys & queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrew jenkins aka andrea hylton/tranny
[15:54] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  i have 18 gb+ to move
[15:54] <bigred15> I wouldn't be trying to move 18GB over FTP :\
[15:54] <linuxlite3> y?
[15:55] <linuxlite3> atm i have to wait a week or so to make my rounds with dropbox.
[15:55] <linuxlite3> bigred15,  this is over lan
[15:55] <k1l> just use a usb-stick or a ext hdd
[15:55] <k1l> or use samba, or nfs
[15:56] <llutz> or rsync/ssh
[15:56] <linuxlite3> well this is my 2-4 time trying to set it up.. :C im a nooob mess
[15:57] <k1l> llutz: well yes. that is what i would use, but most user dont like cli
[15:57] <linuxlite3> im trying to move this to a win7  im on ubuntu
[15:57] <linuxlite3> well if it does the job then show me
[15:57] <llutz> k1l: grsync exists
[15:57] <k1l> !samba | linuxlite3
[15:58] <linuxlite3> yeah thats not going to work. i have read a small book on these  and i still fail
[15:58] <linuxlite3> :C
[15:59] <Guest6010> Hello, I've got a quick question! wondered if someone may be able to help
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: what OS is the server, what OS is the client?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: on the ubuntu system what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: ask away
[16:01] <Guest6010> I'm running Ubuntu Server 12.04, I've setup vsftpd many times before however since this fresh install, chroot_local_user=YES isn't locking users to their home directory?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: is there no scope for sftp?
[16:01] <Guest6010> hello
[16:01] <Guest6010> scope?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: do you have to use ftp?
[16:02] <Guest6010> Yep
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sigh :(
[16:02] <Guest6010> what else would you suggest?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: ftp is garbage, wasteful and unsecure.
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sftp by default will start at $HOME for the user and connections are secure
[16:03] <k1l> !sftp | Guest6010
[16:04] <salsero__> ftp in the lan is quite ok
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> salsero__: oh yeah but openssh-server and done is nice :)
[16:05] <Guest6010> haha i do have openssh setup
[16:06] <Guest6010> however one of our internall systems (extremely old) can only output to external systems via sftp
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: how are you managing your server then, you got a screen on it staring at a black and white screen?
[16:06] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  im trying to move my files and this is just a temp os linux lite base on ubuntu 12.04 32 bit  i5
[16:06] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  i have 18 gb+ to move
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite is not supported here
[16:07] <viccuad> Hi, my ubuntu server install just hangs looking for other operative systems...
[16:07] <Guest6010> Like i say, i'm sorta stuck with sftp due to an internal system
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: there are countless ubuntu based distributions and they are equally not supported here
[16:07] <linuxlite3> huh? that like saying  gnome is no longer supported either. its just a DE on top of ubuntu 12.04
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Guest6010: sftp is great
[16:08] <serin38> is it possible to chown -R 770 user:group directory?
[16:08] <Guest6010> just wondered why chroot_local_user=YES isn't behaving correctly
[16:08] <serin38> I know that doesn't work, but is there a variation that does?
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: gnome is in the official repos and is the default desktop in Ubuntu, so is supported here
[16:08] <Pici> serin38: you need to split that into separate commands. chmod and chown
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: this channel is for packages from the ubuntu repos running on Canonical released distributions
[16:09] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  will its just ubuntu with a differnt desktop eviroment
[16:09] <serin38> Pici: I'll try that, thanks
[16:09] <Pici> serin38: also, Are you sure that you want the execute bit set on every file inside of that directory?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: equally, Ubuntu is based on Debian. Debian is also not suported here and ubuntu is not supported in #debian
[16:09] <streulma> hello, someone know why Virtualbox always crash when stopping a VM? It's on 12.04.4LTS and 13.10. It is version 3.10.
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its a different distribution and is not released by Canonical so is not supported here
[16:09] <serin38> Pici: 770 is read write execute by owner group only, right?
[16:09] <OerHeks> linuxlite3, you might want to join  #linuxlite for support
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its that clean cut
[16:09] <Pici> serin38: Yes
[16:10] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  have  i been away that long ?
[16:10] <serin38> Pici: is it bad to execute the bit set on every file?
[16:10] <serin38> Pici: with 770
[16:10] <Chewy64> backup?
[16:10] <Pici> serin38: It is poor practice to have it set on any file that doesn't need it.
[16:10] <linuxlite3> :C i have been waits for hrs now. not much but tumble weeds
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite has an entirely seperate support community, forums and irc channels from Ubuntu. It may use the packages and there is nothing to stop that happening but the distros like Mint, Backtrack, Pinguy and so on are not supported herere
[16:11] <OerHeks> Chewy64, backup what?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: its always been this way
[16:11] <serin38> Pici: what's a good default for others that don't need it?
[16:12] <Pici> serin38: depending on what you're doing, just read and write will do just fine.
[16:12] <Xanather> hi, should i worry if i mistakenly filled up a ubuntu OS while it was running (0 bytes left on hard drive)
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Xanather: sudo apt-get clean   is a good start
[16:12] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  so that it? im after the ubuntu package, if i get them somewere else i would but no ones home in the irc
[16:12] <Xanather> well thats what it said atleast heh
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: linuxlite is offtopic and not supported here
[16:12] <salsero__> Xanather: ye
[16:13] <Chewy64> OerHeks, Maybe it was a different channel, but there was a bot that had links to some good backup info for an entire disk.
[16:13] <OerHeks> linux lite turns out to be heavy
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: redhat also uses Firefox web browser but RedHat support is separate from Ubuntu's
[16:13] <salsero__> which file system was it?
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: many applications are common
[16:13] <OerHeks> !backup
[16:13] <OerHeks> !clone
[16:13] <serin38> Pici: what's the bit set for read / write? 66(0???)
[16:14] <linuxlite3> !rules
[16:14] <Chewy64> OerHeks, Thanks!
[16:16] <Pici> serin38: yes. but remember you need directories themselves to have +x
[16:17] <winegoddess> I set up a virtual machine on VMWare. i have allocated 100G. but i am running out of space to install Android source. when i do a df - h it seems only has 40G - my Mac has 200G available... any ideas?
[16:17] <winegoddess> http://bit.ly/1hLOm6S
[16:17] <AlphonseElric> I'm having issues with my Broadcom 4311 wireless controller on Lubuntu 13.10 :-/
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> !derivatives  | linuxlite3
[16:19] <linuxlite3> ActionParsnip,  thanks
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> linuxlite3: np
[16:19] <zedzdead> Sup
[16:20] <serin38> Pici: Thanks for the help
[16:20] <AlphonseElric> hey zedzdead I don't know if you remember me from last night I had the screenname Dante at the time
[16:21] <zedzdead> I yeah I remember. Did you fix your problem
[16:21] <AlphonseElric> I did a clean install of Lubuntu 13.10 but my Broadcom 4311 Wireless Controller isn't working
[16:22] <AlphonseElric> Lubuntu is a lot lighter and works well with this processor but unfortunately I have to get to the internet through thethering
[16:22] <zedzdead> Darn. Did you install drivers
[16:22] <AlphonseElric> last night I tried instaling b43 cutter and the b43 installer but it still didn't work zedzdead. Also, it only seems to come up in PCI cards when I click on the bluetooth manager
[16:23] <winegoddess> Im using Ubunto 13.10 - i don't know why i am not getting the space i allocated form vmware, any ideas?
[16:23] <OerHeks> !bcm
[16:23] <winegoddess> ubuntu
[16:23] <Macintrasher> Lurking, don't mind me.
[16:24] <zedzdead> I am minding you
[16:24] <zedzdead> :p
[16:25] <AlphonseElric> ubottu: I'll try it one more time in case I messed up last night
[16:25] <AlphonseElric> oh well there's that lol
[16:25] <Macintrasher> well, if you want to, that's fine.  waiting for 12.04 to d/l.
[16:25] <OerHeks> AlphonseElric, you need the STA driver > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx#A12.04_.28Precise_Pangolin.29_-_12.10_.28Quantal_Quetzal.29
[16:27] <AlphonseElric> Well it work even if at the moment Lubuntu doesn't know it's there OerHeks? I'm afraid that if I click on Bluetooth manager and it's recognized that it will use a driver that I'm unaware of and I'll have the same problems as last night
[16:27] <Runciter> Does anybody know an italian channel where can i have help about nmap, ettercap etc etc?
[16:27] <Macintrasher> using ubuntu right after installing it isn't too bad, it's installing proprietary drivers. I'm reading up on it elsewhere before asking anything specific.
[16:28] <Pici> Runciter: you could start in #ubuntu-it
[16:28] <Runciter> Pici, yes, i know, but they speaks only about OS and nothing else
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> Macintrasher: why GPU do you use?
[16:29] <posthuman> exim4 sends messages in a ways that recipients see my local username instead of my mailaddress ... what do i need to change !?
[16:29] <Pici> Runciter: maybe the folks in ##networking have a better idea?
[16:29] <Macintrasher> with this test build, Radeon HD 5670.  gonna d/l the drivers now.
[16:29] <Runciter> Pici, thanks, i'll try here
[16:30] <llutz> posthuman: http://www.exim.org/exim-html-current/doc/html/spec_html/ch-address_rewriting.html
[16:30] <Macintrasher> actually, I'll wait till I get ubuntu on the other machine first.
[16:31] <zedzdead> Should I install Gentoo?
[16:32] <DJones> zedzdead: You're asking in #ubuntu, thats something you need to ask in the gentoo support channels
[16:33] <oscalation> the ubuntu startup sound contest from 2012 for ubuntu 12.04, those were never included with ubuntu right?
[16:33] <zedzdead> DJones no
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> Macintrasher: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> oscalation: i always disable that, nothing more annoying than redundant system sounds
[16:35] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: do you remember the contest canonical had for startup sounds?
[16:35] <AlphonseElric> Now my bluetooth portion isn't working at all after the STA
[16:36] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: i ask because I was reading this http://nathanheafner.com/home/2014/04/16/new-ubuntu-startup-sounds-from-sam-hulick-mass-effect-now-available/
[16:36] <oscalation> ActionParsnip: i had forgot all about that content referenced in the article
[16:37] <viccuad> does ubuntu save the network config after the install??
[16:37] <Macintrasher> @ActionParsnip One sec, about to burn the ISO.
[16:38] <twirm__> viccuad, did you change some network configs on the live cd?
[16:39] <MASBRO> im having trouble using ftp on ubuntu to share with windows
[16:39] <Macintrasher> I was using 13.10, but I'm gonna switch to 12.04 for the long-term support.
[16:40] <viccuad> twirm__: well, I tried an ubuntu-gnome live cd, it hanged on the 2nd step(unrelated), debugged it looking at /var/log/installer/debug, checked the checksum(it was fine), ditched it, went on an ubuntu server install, installed it with network set up by DHCP, and now here I am
[16:41] <viccuad> and if you try a debian or fedora image, it installs
[16:41] <code_> shall ubuntu 14.4 be available tomorrow on ubuntu website?   yes or no
[16:41] <Pici> code_: 14.04 will be
[16:41] <kupo_> it's on website now
[16:41] <kupo_> all of the releases
[16:41] <Pici> kupo_: no, the ISOs are still being tested
[16:41] <code_> Pici: ty
[16:42] <MASBRO> whats different about 14.04?
[16:42] <k1l> kupo_: please wait until the official announce
[16:42] <kupo_> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/314/builds
[16:42] <kupo_> there's like for testers. pretty much same. if you need
[16:43] <kupo_> sorries
[16:43] <k1l> kupo_: please stop. dont advice to use non-final releases in here
[16:44] <viccuad> can anyone bare with me why I have spent 2 days trying to install ubuntu in any flavour possible, but it justs refuses? oh, and the system gets to install debian or fedora fine
[16:45] <code_> is it true that for 23 bit more software available than 64?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> code_: there are some apps that are 32bit only, like skype
[16:45] <k1l> code_: no. ubuntu uses multiarch
[16:46] <Macintrasher> installing 12.04 now.
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> code_: multiarch deal swith that too, just like windows can run 32bit apps in 64bit
[16:46] <code_> ActionParsnip, that means i'm advised to download 32 version to gain such features?
[16:47] <k1l> code_: if your hardware can run 64bit there is no reason not to use it
[16:47] <code_> kil:my machine is 64 bit
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> code_: gain such features as what?
[16:48] <code_> as skype for example
[16:48] <k1l> code_: then go for 64bt
[16:48] <k1l> *bit
[16:48] <k1l> code_: skype runs on 64bit ubuntu
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> code_: skype installed on 64bit will use maore drive space as it has to pull in more deps to make it work
[16:49] <code_> so you advice me to use ubuntu 64 tomorrow?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> code_: install it and use it, its the same as 32bit ubuntu
[16:50] <code_> ok ty guys .. i will download 64 bit
[16:50] <Xanather> guys what does the ./autogen.sh command do?
[16:50] <Xanather> and ./configure
[16:50] <Xanather> for building
[16:53] <MASBRO> is there a way to manually set my ip and subnet?
[16:53] <balleyne> I'm having trouble in Ubuntu 13.10, can't recognize my dvd device. There's no /dev/dvd. I've also tried /dev/sr0. Disk doesn't appear in Nautilus. Things were working just two weeks ago when running 13.04. Any thoughts on how I can debug?
[16:54] <viccuad> fuck you ubuntu, 2 days trying to install and fedora and debian work at the first try
[16:54] <viccuad> don't worry, I will show myself the exit
[16:56] <bekks> MASBRO: Sure.
[16:56] <MASBRO> how do i go by doin that?
[16:57] <bekks> MASBRO: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/networking.html
[16:57] <Ivis> Hi, i have hybrid graphics and i have installed bumblebee but when i run "lspci | grep VGA" i see only integrated card, please help.
[16:58] <MASBRO> no gui way?
[16:58] <nispr0> how do I match files  with filename that I am going to move?
[16:58] <breakfast_> Mornin' y'all.
[16:58] <k1l> MASBRO: doesnt networkmanager got an option for that? did you look into it?
[16:59] <MASBRO> not that i can see
[16:59] <Macintrasher> 'allo breakfast
[16:59] <breakfast_> Also, I hacked US Airways.
[16:59] <MASBRO> its on auto dhcp
[16:59] <breakfast_> Just so you know.
[16:59] <ikonia> breakfast_: please stop
[17:00] <ikonia> breakfast_: we are not interested.
[17:00] <ikonia> breakfast_: please check the topic of this channel before speaking again
[17:00] <therealfakemoot> So I haven't used ubuntu in about seven or eight years and I've just installed 13.something on my workstation here at the office. I'm running pidgin and I can't really figure out why it won't let me close-to-system-tray
[17:00] <therealfakemoot> Pidgin is configured to always show in the system tray, but there's this little email icon hiding a dropdown menu that contains my pidgin icon, which is definitely not what I want
[17:00] <MASBRO> is there another distro thats more windows friendly as far as networking?
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: what are you actually trying to do
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: as "windows friendly netwoking" makes no sense
[17:01] <MASBRO> windows on windows is friendlier that linux to linux
[17:01] <ikonia> MASBRO: no, it's not
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: why don't you explain the problem you are having
[17:02] <MASBRO> i just want to take a big file and share it.
[17:02] <MASBRO> ive tried to use ssh no go
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: ok, so what's the problem
[17:02] <ikonia> MASBRO: ssh is not a sharing method
[17:02] <MASBRO> well my ubuntu can see windows folders but not the content and windows can't see ubuntu at all.
[17:03] <ikonia> MASBRO: how are you trying to connect ?
[17:03] <MASBRO> through samba
[17:03] <ikonia> MASBRO: exactly how
[17:03] <Macintrasher> @MASBRO  I'll have to make note of that, since all my mp3s are on an external drive.
[17:04] <MASBRO> ive enabled share on both systems and only ubuntu sees the windows
[17:06] <MASBRO> i would like to transfer files like bluetooth except using wireless cards
[17:06] <ikonia> MASBRO: it's pretty mich impossible to help you while you ignore the questions I'm asking and keep giving generic answers back
[17:06] <therealfakemoot> Any ideas about how to get Pidgin to persist in my system tray after hitting the X button? The pidgin configuration is correct. Something about my unity/whatever setup is blocking.
[17:06] <MASBRO> im giving you the ansers the best way i can
[17:06] <ikonia> MASBRO: exactly how are you trying to connect
[17:07] <trism> therealfakemoot: system tray icons were removed from the unity panel so you can't see it that way, there is a pidgin indicator: http://www.webupd8.org/2014/01/pidgin-indicator-ubuntu-appindicator.html
[17:07] <trism> therealfakemoot: haven't tried it myself though
[17:08] <therealfakemoot> trism: Ahh, interesting. That's a bummer.
[17:08] <therealfakemoot> Maybe I'll have to look into tearing unity out.
[17:08] <MASBRO> im trying to connect through network tree
[17:08] <ikonia> MASBRO: walk me through your process
[17:09] <winegoddess> I called vmware about my issue. they said i cannot extend the partition in ubuntu
[17:09] <winegoddess> is this valid for ubuntu? here is a screenshot...
[17:09] <winegoddess> https://docs.google.com/a/karmoxie.com/document/d/1PdGywvXL67Lw7ql6-j5QdrYg2VSH0AdCrG1TUBuitlM/edit
[17:09] <MASBRO> i follwed this guide
[17:09] <MASBRO> http://tinyhacker.com/hacks/share-files-between-ubuntu-windows-7-computers/
[17:10] <ikonia> MASBRO: what versio of ubuntu are you using ?
[17:10] <MASBRO> 12.04 lts
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you can connect to sshfs ;)
[17:10] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: not with windows you can't
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: with filezilla though
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you connect to the server using Filezilla in Windows you can send and recieve files
[17:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: how are you following that guide ? that guide is using gnome 2 and links/menu items from gnome2, and 12.04 doesn't use gnome 2
[17:11] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: oops sorry
[17:11] <ikonia> using gnome 2 and links/menu items from gnome2, and 12.04 doesn't use gnome 2
[17:12] <ikonia> MASBRO:  how are you following that guide ? that guide is
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: np buddy
[17:12] <MASBRO> ActionParsnip. ive tried to use ftp
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: its sftp, use file -> site manager in Filezilla and you can connect to SFTP
[17:12] <Tzunamii> Just use btsync
[17:13] <MASBRO> i always get cannot connect error
[17:13] <MASBRO> i follow the guide step by step
[17:13] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: did you select SFTP from the options and set port 22
[17:13] <MASBRO> yep definately
[17:13] <Macintrasher> well, crap, the install got goofed up somehow. reinstalling...
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you cant just type the details in the default filezilla UI, you need to use the sites manager
[17:14] <MASBRO> i cant even ping ununtu laptop from windows
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you can't just tell it to use port 22 and hope, it will still use FTP
[17:14] <valleydaddy78> xubuntu 13.10 wifi disconnection problem?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: can you ping by IP?
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: what wifi chip?
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> dont know
[17:15] <MASBRO> yes i know i use the site manager.  i use filezilla all the time to transfer between my ps3
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: sudo lshw -C network    will tell you
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> just install last night
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> kk
[17:15] <MASBRO> i tried to ping the ip no response.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: is the system a laptop?
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> yes
[17:15] <valleydaddy78> laptop yes
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: can you ping the router's internal IP?
[17:15] <MASBRO> the subnet are different. i tried to set the router to be the same as the laptop then the laptop changes subnet
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: have you use a wired connection to get fully updated first?
[17:15] <MASBRO> yes i can ping the router but not the laptop
[17:16] <valleydaddy78> it fully updated on the wifi last night with no problem
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: have you set a route for the alien IP to go down the interface to then get routed?
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: ok, what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <MASBRO> sorry Im lost now
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you have 2 subnets, you need to either make one, or tell your system how to get to the other network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: is this a home network setup?
[17:17] <MASBRO> how do i do that?
[17:17] <MASBRO> yes home network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: is this a home network setup?
[17:17] <MASBRO> yes home network
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then why do you have 2 subnets?
[17:18] <valleydaddy78> RTL8101E/RTL8102E PCI Express Fast Ethernet controller
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: guess what connection that is......
[17:18] <MASBRO> i don't know. my pc is at 192.168.1.2 and laptop at 192.168.1.4
[17:19] <valleydaddy78> ?
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: hint...the word "ethernet" is a massive clue
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then they are on the same subnet, 192.168.1.0/24
[17:19] <valleydaddy78> i was never connected to ethernet
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: yes but that isnt your wifi chip
[17:19] <MASBRO> but i cant ping from the pc to the laptop
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: can you also give the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[17:20] <valleydaddy78> how
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: its a terminal command, press CTRL + ALT + T and run the command, the output is one line so you can type it here
[17:21] <Dante1> well now I'm in a real pickel
[17:21] <valleydaddy78> whats the command sorry
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: cat /etc/issue
[17:21] <MASBRO> but i cant ping from the pc to the laptop
[17:22] <Dante1> Lubuntu 13.10 doesn't even know my wireless card exists and my Bluetooth device isn't working either even though I did another clean install of Lubuntu 13.10 :(
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: then your router is having an issue. I suggest you reboot it when it is next convenient
[17:22] <valleydaddy78> no such file or directory
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: what wifi chip are you using?
[17:22] <spayno> I have a trusty question.  Anyone know why apt-get -s --print-uris update doesn't work on trusty?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: there is a SPACE between the word 'cat' and '/etc/issue'
[17:22] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: Broadcom 4311
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: so if you run:  sudo lshw -C network     you dont see the broadcom?
[17:23] <MASBRO> whats bitsync?
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if the 2 systems cannot see each other then you will not be able to copy data between them with any software you can name or be suggested of
[17:24] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: nope it only shows the BCM5787M Ethernet port not the wireless card
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: do you dual boot the system?
[17:24] <MASBRO> cant the two wireless cards connect by passing the router/
[17:25] <MASBRO> cant the two wireless cards connect by passing the router?
[17:25] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I don't think so, I've never done a dual boot
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: no as the router is what you are connected to to get the wireless connection...
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: does the system have a make and model?
[17:25] <valleydaddy78> same responce
[17:25] <MASBRO> how about lan line from pc direct to the laptop nic?
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: you'll probably find a router reboot follwed by a system reboot makes it ok
[17:26] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: HP Compaq 6715b with Mobile Sempron 3500+ processor
[17:26] <ActionParsnip> valleydaddy78: or:  lsb_release -sc
[17:26] <MASBRO> ive done that last night still a no go. if i use the cable from pc to laptop will that work?
[17:27] <MASBRO> only reason im trying to get the home network is because when copying files to a flash disk through ubuntu i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: is there a switch to enable / disable wifi?
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> MASBRO: if you get a crossover cable then you can connect peer to peer, you will need to set the IPs as there is no DHCP server to give out IPs
[17:30] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: well you just touch the wireless touch pad on the laptop but when I do that it doesn't light up. It used to light up when the Bluetooth Manager used to work and the wireless card would show up in PCI Devices
[17:30] <MASBRO> i use the crossover cable to transfer from ps3 to laptop. it should work the same way?
[17:31] <chulis> a laptop with 4 gb ram with intel pentium ¿how many swap do you recomend?
[17:32] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: basically there's a touch switch on the laptop that turns the wireless band on and off but it's not doing anything.
[17:32] <MASBRO> one
[17:32] <k1l> chulis: swap=ram if you want hibernation
[17:33] <MASBRO> why i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted when using a flash disk
[17:33] <chulis> if i dont want hibernation?
[17:33] <chulis> if i dont want hibernation?  k1l?
[17:34] <k1l> chulis: think about if you want swap at all
[17:34] <MASBRO> just install the swap. it wont hurt
[17:34] <chulis> yes but how many mb of swap?
[17:35] <k1l> chulis: that depends.
[17:35] <chulis> it doesnt matter?
[17:35] <MASBRO> one gig is fine
[17:35] <k1l> chulis: i dont have swap at all.
[17:35] <chulis> lubuntu use more swap o ram?
[17:36] <chulis> wich use first?
[17:36] <k1l> chulis: remember that swap is very very slow. so if you dont have a reason to use swap to simulate more than 4 gb ram (because you run programs that will use much ram) you dont want  stuff in swap
[17:37] <MASBRO> why i get false readings and its slow and files are always corrupted when using a flash disk
[17:37] <k1l> first way is to use ram, but as there is a lot of cache and buffers in ram you will get stuff in swap
[17:37] <k1l> MASBRO: the flash devce is dead
[17:37] <chulis> so is it possible to instsall lubuntu with no swap?
[17:38] <MASBRO> no its not. its with every flash disk. old and new.out the package
[17:38] <kayallday> chulis: Yes.
[17:38] <chulis> ok
[17:38] <k1l> chulis: yes
[17:39] <delinquentme> so its a good idea to install packages without always using sudo ( installing node.js ) ... right now I thought I would have enabled non-sudo installation by giving my current user ownership of /usr/local/  ... but I still cant install packages w/o sudo .... Did I chown the wrong directory?
[17:39] <donofrio> What is the best distro for older hardware like the Dellgx620 w/1gb ram free and shared video card.....needs to be able to run opengl for java feedthebeast application.. (don't kill/kick me for asking here just wondered)
[17:40] <k1l> donofrio: since you ask here: use Lubuntu
[17:40] <kayallday> donofrio: Ubuntu will work, you can use a different GUI though. Maybe look at Lubuntu.
[17:40] <k1l> donofrio: for other distros ask in ##linux
[17:41] <Meerkat> I second or third lubuntu.
[17:41] <kayallday> donofrio: Minecraft can burn up a lot of memory, if you have a lots of players etc. One thing to be aware of.
[17:42] <MASBRO> puppy linux
[17:42] <nf7> Does anyone know how to disable the zoom in animation when you mouseover an item on the Cairo Dock? I can't seem to find it in the configuration files.
[17:42] <FireBeard> hello
[17:42] <delinquentme> $ sudo chown -R $USER /usr/bin  << also is this a bad idea?
[17:42] <mishravikas> hi everyone am facing problem in connecting to wifi network in ubuntu 13.04 can anyone please help me?
[17:43] <k1l> delinquentme: yes, dont do that
[17:43] <FireBeard> a stupid suggestion: why not keep that LibreOffice shit off the installer, and just have a quick install link on the desktop instead?
[17:43] <kayallday> mishravikas: Maybe if you told us where and how it was failing?
[17:43] <delinquentme> k1l, already did is ... sudo: must be setuid root
[17:43] <donofrio> so far I've just been getting RandD exceptions from 14.04 and 12.04 all they say is its ubuntu not working with the built in intel 845 graphics card but it was working till I upgrade-manager -d upgraded it from 12.04 to 14.04
[17:43] <donofrio> )-:
[17:43] <delinquentme> who should I be giving those permissions back to?
[17:43] <donofrio> no my 12 yr is all bummed
[17:43] <mishravikas> kayallday: its not connecting at all and tries again and again
[17:43] <donofrio> he's like can we just put windows on it....I'm like no way we have to fix this...
[17:44] <kayallday> Oh that was sad, the I see this channel is censoring opinions and words again? I'm out ofthere.
[17:44] <Dante1> so if rfkill says something is blocked does that mean that it's not in use
[17:45] <donofrio> the FTB irc channel said its ubuntu problem and install mint (I just started to roll my eyes - cause I used ubunut ad daily driver all the time)
[17:45] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I don't know if you're still here but my wireless card just showed up now that my Bluetooth Manager is working, however the wireless card is still non functional
[17:46] <CrazySurfer> Is there any way to tell the console to show messages in english and not changing the OS language?
[17:46] <Pici> CrazySurfer: iirc, prefix your command with LANG=C
[17:47] <CrazySurfer> iirc?
[17:47] <delinquentme> k1l, advice on how to undo this >> sudo chown -R $USER /usr/bin  ?
[17:47] <donofrio> http://www.tinyurl.com/lewisstandingsatwork2014
[17:47] <delinquentme> ( because at current I can't install anything )
[17:47] <Macintrasher> well, 12.04 said it installed, but when it tried to boot, I just got a black screen with a blinking cursor.  I'll burn a 13.10 disc and use that instead.
[17:47] <Pici> CrazySurfer: if I recall correctly
[17:47] <CrazySurfer> Pici: You recall right :) thanks!
[17:48] <k1l> delinquentme: root:root
[17:50] <delinquentme> sudo chown -R root:root /usr/bin  k1l  ?
[17:50] <k1l> delinquentme: and for unexperienced users like you: if you need to use sudo, you really should think about what you are doing, or ask someone who knows
[17:50] <k1l> delinquentme: yes
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: has it ever worked in this install?
[17:51] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: The wireless no, the bluetooth yes. The bluetooth is working right now
[17:51] <delinquentme> $ sudo chown -R root:root /usr/bin  >>> sudo: must be setuid root
[17:52] <fragske> anyone experienced with netboot installs?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: reboot and drop to root recovery mode
[17:52] <k1l> delinquentme: you will need a live system  or the recovery to do that
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: then run the command there
[17:53] <Macintrasher> ok, let's see if 13.10 installs without a hitch.
[17:53] <fragske> well actually, pxe installs
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and run:  mount -o rw,remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: why did you even chown the files in the first place? its madness
[17:53] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip, attempting to install local packages w/o the use of sudo
[17:53] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: I see that in the rfkill list the wireless LAN is unblocked but there's no wireless connection setup in the Network Connections
[17:54] <delinquentme> I ran a $which curl ... and it said it was installed in /usr/bin ... so I chownd that one
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: hold SHIFT at boot, select recovery mode, select root and run:  mount -o rw,remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network m   do you see the device?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> Dante1: sudo lshw -C network
[17:56] <Dante1> ActionParsnip: yes it's there I'm going to type everything it says just give me a moment
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | Dante1
[17:56] <Dante1> manny@oldfart:~$ sudo lshw -C Network
[17:56] <Dante1> [sudo] password for manny:
[17:56] <Dante1>   *-network
[17:56] <Dante1>        description: Ethernet interface
[17:56] <Dante1>        product: NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express
[17:56] <fragske> !pxe
[17:56] <fragske> !netboot
[17:58] <Dante1> I accidentally flooded the channel
[17:59] <fragske> grmbl, that's no help either... if only my computer would boot from the usb-cdrom :(
[17:59] <fragske> or usb-fdd for that matter
[18:00] <Pupuser> hello 14_04 !
[18:01] <Pupuser> installed on my lappy, but the lid wake-up doesn't quite work
[18:03] <balleyne> I'm having trouble in Ubuntu 13.10, can't recognize my dvd device. There's no /dev/dvd. I've also tried /dev/sr0. Disk doesn't appear in Nautilus. Things were working just two weeks ago when running 13.04. Any thoughts on how I can debug?
[18:03] <Joel> If I wanted to submit a pull request for apt-key, wtf would the source for it be hiding?
[18:04] <mkander_> Hi! I have connected a barcode scanner to a server. Is there some way to route the input from this to a script or something? I dont want it to just input directly like the keyboard. Thanks :)
[18:04] <Arceye> how do I connect via ssh on a different port than 22 ?
[18:04] <Joel> mkander_, that's a limitation of the scanner if it has keyboard wedge.
[18:04] <daftykins> Arceye: via CLI? "ssh hostname:port" or "ssh hostname -p port"
[18:05] <mkander_> Joel: USB ?
[18:05] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:05] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:05] <Arceye> daftykins, thanks
[18:06] <mkander_> Joel: Not sure if I know what a "keyboard wedge" is, but it is at least connected by USB
[18:06] <Joel> mkander_, not much you can do then. why does it functioning as a keyboard not work for you?
[18:06] <Arceye> humblepie
[18:06] <Arceye> wtf ?
[18:06] <Joel> Arceye, that's in the man page, and the help output, btw.
[18:06] <ikonia> Arceye: tone down the langauge please
[18:06] <dutchuss2016> o need help with clementine
[18:06] <catphish> is ubuntu 13.10 / 14.0 supported on nexus tablets, or is it necessary to use touch?
[18:07] <Arceye> heheh   sorry the f meant flip :)
[18:07] <mkander_> Joel: I will use this as a login thing connected to a raspberry pi
[18:07] <mkander_> Joel: No screen
[18:07] <JaySlaven> hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine?????
[18:07] <balleyne> Arceye, lol...
[18:07] <Beldar> catphish, You want to ask at #ubuntu-touch
[18:07] <Stmeter> Hey guys. Does anyone here have experience using DRBL with CloneZilla SE on 12.04?
[18:08] <dutchuss2016> ii have 1644 songs that havve improper tags on them  im trying to have clementine fix there tags for me  (i  dont feel like taking the time to go thru each one and type  out the tags riight )
[18:08] <catphish> Beldar: lol that sounds like it answers my question ;)
[18:08] <Joel> mkander_, ok?
[18:08] <catphish> thanks
[18:08] <Arceye> Joel,  I was typing hostname:port   but it didn't work ,   hostname -p port worked
[18:08] <Joel> mkander_, it can still act like a keyboard just fine for that.
[18:08] <Beldar> catphish, Cool, the early nexus (2012) is limited to up to 13.04, the 2013 has a install of touch or trusty.
[18:09] <catphish> i have a 1st gen nexus 7 at the moment
[18:09] <Beldar> catphish, Me to.
[18:09] <mkander_> Joel: Hmm you mean by auto login and then start some script that routes stdin?
[18:09] <Joel> mkander_, So someone is going to scan a barcode to login?
[18:09] <catphish> Beldar: any opinion on what would be a better choice? touch vs 13.04?
[18:09] <mkander_> Joel: Yes
[18:09] <JaySlaven> oh cmon hello. why does my minecraft crash when i use optifine
[18:09] <Joel> mkander_, so the barcode should be nameENTERpassword. which can be done.
[18:09] <catphish> or just forget it and use android?
[18:10] <balleyne> Arceye, FYI you can also set the port in your .ssh/config file, so that you don't have to type it every time: http://askubuntu.com/questions/80276/can-i-specify-a-port-for-certain-ip-address-in-sshs-config
[18:10] <mkander_> Joel: Hmm that sounds complex if you mean by using the default login screen that way
[18:11] <Joel> mkander_, it's not.
[18:11] <Arceye> balleyne,  thanks, when I eventually get the darn thing working, for now I will have to move my seat 2 feet to the left and log in to the box physically
[18:11] <Beldar> catphish, I put the touch in lately, using the multirom app, I have 3 other androids on it. Touch is still in development still, I use custom android's primarily
[18:12] <catphish> i've found stock jelybean to be excellent, used to use cyanogen, but havent seen the need lately
[18:12] <mkander_> Joel: What do you think about auto login and then just start a script that grabs the stdin and routes it to a script for example?
[18:12] <SentryAB> can someone tell me what using a "^" with "apt-get install/remove" does? e.g. "apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop^" I can't seem to find a good description of its function
[18:13] <Joel> mkander_, seems like a lot of work when a barcode can contain a carriage return.
[18:13] <catphish> Beldar: i get bored of OSs though, like to try new stuff
[18:13] <Beldar> ;)
[18:13] <catphish> tbh, i'm having a hard time finding a desktop enviroment i don't hate
[18:13] <daftykins> guys you're off topic, this is not a channel for smartphones!
[18:13] <mkander_> Joel: Its just that I cant use the server users as login
[18:14] <daftykins> catphish: take general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic please, this channel is for support questions only
[18:14] <catphish> daftykins: please stop being disruptive
[18:15] <Beldar> catphish, Actually daftykins is correct here.
[18:15] <mkander_> Joel: The users are on another server and I cant setup ldap or anything there
[18:15] <mkander_> Joel: Only have an api access (http) to check if barcode is valid
[18:17] <Arceye> Yay!!!   with the help of #ubuntu I can rock at this linux stuff :)
[18:17] <Pupuser> people, please, this is for current versions discussion, right?
[18:18] <MooDoo> Pupuser: yes :)
[18:18] <catphish> SentryAB: it's a regular expression, ^ means start of string, not sure why it would be at the end
[18:18] <dutchuss2016> i neeed some help with clementine  and no ones in clementine chat
[18:19] <Macintrasher> Actually, I have a Clementine question, too.  Does the Ubuntu version properly recognize Unicode in file names?
[18:19] <catphish> SentryAB: the manual says: http://paste.codebasehq.com/pastes/u82lqakkacuw957gp3
[18:19] <SentryAB> catphish, well I got a tip about using it for removing ubuntu-desktop and all its dependencies again, it seemed to work :)
[18:20] <MooDoo> Pupuser: if you need +1 chat then use #ubuntu+1 :D
[18:20] <delinquentme> $ ls -l /usr/bin/sudo >> -rwxr-xr-x 2 lilith root 71288 Mar 11 05:24 /usr/bin/sudo
[18:20] <catphish> maybe it has some meaning not noted in the manual then :(
[18:20] <delinquentme> so still no sudo ownership
[18:21] <delinquentme> still no sudo after running $ rw, remount /; chown -R root:root /usr/bin
[18:21] <delinquentme> ActionParsnip isn't here =[[
[18:21] <Pupuser> general discussion of 14.04, then - likes, dislikes, etc?
[18:21] <dutchuss2016> i dont think it  does
[18:21] <daftykins> delinquentme: what on earth are you running that for?
[18:22] <delinquentme> daftykins, I gave ownership of /usr/bin to my current user ( non-sudo )
[18:22] <delinquentme> so trying to fix this
[18:22] <MooDoo> Pupuser: do /topic and it gives you a little info
[18:22] <SentryAB> catphish, I did find that in the manual, but it makes a lot less sense to me, than I would like it to
[18:23] <daftykins> delinquentme: how'd you manage that? :)
[18:23] <Fawzib> I installed ubuntu 13.10 (server), after reboot always get error message '*ERROR* failed to set mode on CRT:10'
[18:23] <daftykins> Fawzib: using non-LTS versions of server is a pretty bad idea if you're going to set something serious up with it
[18:24] <Fawzib> home server, nothing *really* important, until next lts gets here
[18:24] <delinquentme> daftykins, I was trying ot install node.js *properly* by not using sudo for all the packages ... and so I thought ... if I want to run w/o sudo ... $ which curl ... and then give $USER ownership of that dir
[18:24] <delinquentme> 0=]
[18:24] <Pupuser> thanks
[18:24] <MooDoo> Pupuser: yw :)
[18:28] <Fawzib> hmm, just noticed 14.04 is released tomorrow (thought it was much later), i guess i can wait one day :)
[18:31] <posthuman> hello, i installed courier-imap-ssl on exim4  and allowed port 993  but i cant use imap+ssl on thunderbird anyway
[18:32] <Macintrasher> alright, looks like 13.10 installed perfectly.  now to get those video drivers...
[18:32] <posthuman> it says no configuration found with 993
[18:33] <desouza> olá
[18:33] <desouza> teste
[18:34] <Logan_> !pt | desouza
[18:34] <jhutchins> posthuman: Sounds like you may need to specify additional details, although 993 is the standard port.
[18:35] <jhutchins> posthuman: I presume this message is from thunderbird?
[18:35] <posthuman> yes
[18:35] <jhutchins> posthuman: Have you tested the port with telnet?
[18:35] <posthuman> and thank u for your reply
[18:35] <posthuman> 993 works on telnet
[18:35] <quasimodal> anyone here use ufw?
[18:36] <quasimodal> and if not, why?
[18:36] <jhutchins> So it's definitely a thunderbird configuration issue.  Wish I knew more.
[18:36] <jhutchins> quasimodal: A firewall can not protect the device it's running on.  All of the packets have to reach the kernel to be inspected.
[18:36] <novasonic> hi
[18:36] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Windows uses on-system firewalls to cover a miriad of security flaws that are not present in Linux by design.
[18:37] <quasimodal> anyone here jhutchins what are you saying exactly, don't use ufw?
[18:37] <novasonic> what is with windows?
[18:38] <jhutchins> quasimodal: If you need a firewall, it needs to be at the router where your network connects to other systems.
[18:38] <quasimodal> well this is just for my VPS :)
[18:38] <novasonic> i disabled the firewall of my modem
[18:38] <novasonic> ping me
[18:38] <quasimodal> sorry should have specified that
[18:38] <Macintrasher> ok, now we can get started.
[18:38] <novasonic> lol
[18:38] <Pupuser> is ubutyu really actually just a bot?
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> Pupuser: yes
[18:39] <novasonic> schrodinger
[18:39] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Your profider should have an upstream firewall that offers proper protection.
[18:39] <Macintrasher> I extracted the drivers for my vid card to the desktop as a .run file.  how do I install them?
[18:39] <novasonic> just one question
[18:39] <novasonic> are u alive?
[18:39] <desouza> Ok I need go out now
[18:39] <desouza> bye bye friends
[18:39] <SchrodingersScat> novasonic: I don't know until someone tests it and collapses the wave
[18:40] <jhutchins> !nvidia | Macintrasher
[18:40] <quasimodal> hmm judging by my access logs doesn't look like it :)
[18:40] <jhutchins> Macintrasher: There should also be instructions wherever you got the file.
[18:40] <Macintrasher> reading now...
[18:41] <jhutchins> quasimodal: What specific problems are you seeing?
[18:41] <jhutchins> quasimodal: brute force ssh attacks?
[18:41] <quasimodal> ya the usual
[18:41] <quasimodal> i've got key only access to non-root
[18:41] <quasimodal> thats the first thing i setup
[18:42] <jhutchins> quasimodal: 1) Notify your provider and suggest that they throttle ssh connections to protect their clients, 2) run on an obfuscated port (which you should have to ask them to open).
[18:42] <quasimodal> so just looking to take the next steps in securing it
[18:42] <quasimodal> ya im off 22 now
[18:42] <quasimodal> as in i changed ssh from 22 to something else
[18:42] <jhutchins> quasimodal: A firewall doesn't protect you from DOS because all of the packets have to reach the kernel before the firewall rejects or drops them.
[18:43] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Before you disable 22 make sure the new port is open on the provider's firewall.
[18:43] <novasonic> tar -cp on your rsa_keys
[18:43] <novasonic> and distribute it everywhere
[18:43] <quasimodal> yeah so DOS stuff is something i'd have to ask the provider for protection from?
[18:43] <aysorth> quasimodal: yes.
[18:44] <quasimodal> ok, but save the DDOS stuff
[18:44] <aysorth> quasimodal: most want you to pay for that though
[18:44] <quasimodal> the usual steps to secure the server is
[18:44] <quasimodal> keybased access to non root of obfuscated port
[18:44] <Pupuser> SchrodingersScat, are you really there?
[18:44] <novasonic> prevent sql_injection?
[18:44] <quasimodal> and after that?
[18:44] <SchrodingersScat> Pupuser: unclear
[18:44] <quasimodal> ive installed fail2ban
[18:44] <desouza> what is channel ubuntu for Brasil?
[18:45] <quasimodal> i activated ufw but it makes everything so slow
[18:45] <posthuman> it is a thunderbird issue guys -.-
[18:45] <posthuman> evolution works just fine
[18:45] <jhutchins> !br | desouza
[18:45] <aysorth> quasimodal: ssh_config, ufw, fail2ban is my lite checklist
[18:45] <novasonic> ~/join bsd
[18:45] <aysorth> quasimodal: ufw shouldn't make anything slow, though
[18:45] <novasonic> l
[18:46] <desouza> ok thanks!
[18:46] <quasimodal> it literally causes my ssh login to take about 30 seconds longer
[18:46] <quasimodal> :/
[18:46] <quasimodal> with only two rules added
[18:46] <aysorth> quasimodal: something's wrong then
[18:46] <reisio> irc.mozilla.org
[18:46] <novasonic> where is your serv?
[18:46] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Perhaps you are blocking the reverse DNS?
[18:46] <aysorth> I have a 64M vps with ufw, on debian, but it should make any difference
[18:46] <aysorth> And it works fine
[18:46] <Macintrasher> "In Ubuntu 10.04 and 9:10 this is found under System->Administration->Hardware Drivers."  I'm using 13.10, so what do I do?
[18:46] <aysorth> shouldn
[18:46] <aysorth> t
[18:46] <novasonic> i would use slackware or freebsd
[18:46] <novasonic> for servers
[18:47] <quasimodal> all i've done tho is install, add rules to allow ssh and http and then activate
[18:47] <quasimodal> and instantly my ssh logins lag when connecting to the port
[18:47] <quasimodal> novasonic im using vpsfx right now
[18:47] <novasonic> aptitude breaks constantly
[18:47] <quasimodal> i like them because they are cheap :)
[18:48] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Check to see if reverse dns is working; if not either fix it or disable it in sshd_conf.  That should speed up the logins.
[18:48] <jhutchins> quasimodal: Don't feed the troll, just ignore it.
[18:48] <Macintrasher> wait, I might have found something...
[18:49] <quasimodal> jhutchins thanks ill try that now
[18:51] <novasonic> exit
[18:51] <C6R> I have 10 files in a directory. Using the file command how do I determine human readable of all files at once and not serperately?
[18:52] <Pici> C6R: what does "how do I determine human readable of all files" mean?
[18:53] <novasonic> go to the directory
[18:53] <novasonic> and type ls -ln
[18:53] <human_> Hey, anybody know ehere I can find older snort snapshots ?
[18:53] <novasonic> it will list permissions
[18:53] <C6R> file -- -file00 resonds as "data"
[18:53] <C6R> I would like it to print if its ascii text
[18:54] <novasonic> you need to create your own format and make a header structure
[18:54] <Macintrasher> I found the Software & Updates window and chose the Additional Drivers tab...
[18:55] <novasonic> for example if the first 5 bytes translate to ascii
[18:55] <Pici> !who
[18:55] <novasonic> then it means it is an ascii file
[18:55] <Macintrasher> it showed me the drivers it was using and showed 3 others I could choose from.  I chose the third and it's updating now (tho quite slowly).
[18:56] <novasonic> ubotto, how can I do that?
[18:56] <novasonic> !tab
[18:57] <Macintrasher> is there any way to know if it's updating the drivers from the file I downloaded from AMD?
[18:57] <novasonic> so if I send a message to any particular person, it can only be seen by him?
[18:58] <Pici> novasonic: just prefix your message with their nick. That way no one else things that you might be talking to them, and your messages will be hilighted by that person's IRC client.
[18:58] <novasonic> Pici: ok
[18:59] <Bashing-om> Pici: ^^ otherwise too, we may not see any of your responses among all the other traffic ! .
[19:00] <novasonic> Pici: btw, thanks for stating that
[19:00] <Macintrasher> Mental note: driver updates take forever.
[19:02] <daftykins> Macintrasher: using the drivers tab there is the *correct* way to go about graphics drivers, manual downloads are the windows mentality mistake :)
[19:02] <quasimodal> jhutchins disabling reverse DNS in the sshd_config worked perfectly thanks alot
[19:02] <daftykins> Macintrasher: however using AMD is a level of hell, so often proper support can only be had through manual downloads. it depends on the age of your hardware
[19:04] <novasonic> daftykins: why do you hate windows that much?
[19:05] <daftykins> novasonic: no, i'm saying someone that comes from windows thinks graphics drivers are to be downloaded in Linux when they're new to it. don't assume to know what i think
[19:05] <Macintrasher> @daftykins  well, up until now, I didn't even know the drivers tab existed.  I'm used to windows and .exes.  Also, vendor-made Linux drivers should be reliable, right?
[19:06] <novasonic> daftykins: as long as the driver you are looking for is open-source you can compile it, otherwise you need to download it
[19:07] <Macintrasher> ok, driver's been updated.  now, how to properly test them out...?
[19:07] <daftykins> novasonic: can you please stop talking to me now? you have completely misunderstood the situation
[19:07] <delinquentme_> OK so I'm in the middle of repairing  a few things
[19:07] <delinquentme_> -rwsr-sr-x 1 daemon daemon    51464 Oct 21 04:00 at
[19:07] <delinquentme_> I've got a system showing daemon root instead of the above daemon daemon
[19:08] <delinquentme_> also ... I know these are both users ... bu what does the placement in that line designate?
[19:08] <daftykins> user - group
[19:09] <code_> any documentation resources online to learn linux as TLDP.org?
[19:09] <reisio> code_: tldp.org
[19:09] <code_> reisio, any other online enormous tutorials i can depend on?
[19:10] <reisio> sure
[19:10] <reisio> but nothing as good as the man pages you already have installed
[19:11] <novasonic> delinquentme: the first root is the name of the user, and the second is the primary group that root belongs to
[19:13] <Dante1> yea this whole thing just is out of hand
[19:14] <Dante1> this would be my 5th clean install and I'm not even sure I'm going to stick with Lubuntu 13.10 because everything i have done so far has not worked to get my wireless card to work
[19:14] <novasonic> Dante1: you need to check if your wireless card is supported
[19:14] <betabertus8899> i'm also running 13.10 pretty good for me so far
[19:15] <Dante1>  I really like the LXDE environment and the fact that it runs smoother than Ubuntu 12.04 LTS but when I tried installing the b43 driver the computer froze up on the reboot trying to fix recursive errors
[19:15] <betabertus8899> install on lenovo z500 with pre-installed w8.1 was a real nightmare, got it to work eventually
[19:15] <novasonic> Dante1: if it does, then you may need to configure it by hand
[19:15] <betabertus8899> can't wait for the 14.04 lts tomorrow
[19:15] <Dante1> novasonic: supposedly it does but everything I tried has failed
[19:16] <Dante1> I've gone to the forums I've asked here and it's just getting frustrating
[19:16] <reisio> what'd you install, exactly?
[19:16] <daftykins> betabertus8899: you're welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic but this channel is for support queries only
[19:16] <betabertus8899> unity is good but could be so much better, unity could take a note from rocketdock and osx
[19:16] <Dante1> b43 cutter - b43 installer
[19:16] <Dante1> it's for the Broadcom 4311 wireless card
[19:17] <kupo_> you try xubuntu dantel ?
[19:17] <betabertus8899> yes, how do i install duel gpu on lenovo z500 - has intel hd 4000 and nvidia gt740 2gb card
[19:17] <betabertus8899> just cannot get it to work
[19:18] <novasonic> Dante1: I am pretty sure that it is supported with new vanilla kernel
[19:18] <Dante1> I haven't tried xubuntu kup_
[19:18] <riceNbeans> what do you think is the difference between 14.0 and the upcoming mint 17?
[19:18] <betabertus8899> daftykins can you help please
[19:19] <reisio> riceNbeans: color green, delayed packages, more bugs
[19:19] <reisio> as ever
[19:19] <Dante1> novasnoic: like I said it's supposedly supported but on regular install it doesn't work. When I tried the STA that didn't work. I tried installing the b43 driver twice, the first time it froze on reboot during the text interface screen. The second time I turned my wireless card off and on again and it froze and did the same thing as previous where it froze up on text interface
[19:20] <Macintrasher> seems I had more updates to install.  so far, tho, everything's working as it should.
[19:20] <daftykins> !optimus
[19:20] <novasonic> Dante1: have you tried modprobing it?
[19:20] <daftykins> betabertus8899: see above ^
[19:20] <Dante1> novasonic: when I tried modprobing it it said that it was fatal command and it didn't want to execute
[19:20] <daftykins> betabertus8899: however for optimus setups i suggest you give up and wait for 14.04 final
[19:20] <Mrokii> Hello. This is (probably) not directly related to Ubuntu, but sometimes XSane doesn't work properly. Specifically, sometimes "LineArt" or "Colour"-mode produces either a completel black scan or (some kind of repetition of a scanned document, but in smaller forms with the background all black as well). Sometimes it works though and I have no clue what causes this. Strangely "Grey"-mode seems to work everytime.
[19:21] <betabertus8899> yes have tried it, how do i know if this is working? still shows only hd4000 intel
[19:21] <novasonic> Dante1: did you check /var/log/dmesg?
[19:21] <django> once i have my USB boot setup to install ubuntu what do I do
[19:21] <Dante1> novasnoic: well I'm running on the trial Lubuntu 13.10 because I'm afraid it's going to freeze on startup
[19:22] <betabertus8899> yes daftykins i also think i will just install the 14.04 rather than spend time fixing this today
[19:22] <daftykins> betabertus8899: no guarantee it'll work even then
[19:23] <betabertus8899> yea, even in windows 8.1 the duel gpu is not great
[19:23] <Dante1> novasnoic: for whatever strange reason Ubuntu 11.10 and Ubuntu 12.04 LTS didn't have this problem at all, but on those versions there's some lag unlike in Lubuntu where the lag is reduced significantly
[19:24] <django> anyone?/
[19:24] <novasonic> Dante1: does your wireless card work under ubuntu 12.04 lts?
[19:24] <Dante1> novasnoic: yes
[19:25] <novasonic> Dante1: I have no idea
[19:25] <Bashing-om> django: The easy way -> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/help/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu <- .
[19:26] <Dante1> novasonic: yeah, it's quite a mystery.
[19:26] <Dante1> Bashing-om: hey how's it going.
[19:26] <novasonic> Dante1: you can check changelogs anytime
[19:26] <Bashing-om> django: 'nothe beautiful day in the neighbor hood.
[19:26] <riceNbeans> reisio, as in mint is worse? delayed packages, though it used same packages? which bugs in your opinion?
[19:27] <reisio> mint is sourced from ubuntu, it can only lag behind
[19:27] <Dante1> novasnoic: How do I do that if it freezes up during boot
[19:27] <kupo_> mint is quite stable though
[19:27] <kupo_> i like both
[19:27] <reisio> compared to ubuntu, it's just about as stable, yup
[19:27] <reisio> but it can essentially only be less stable :p
[19:28] <Dante1> Bashing-om: I tried out Lubuntu 13.10 like you said last night. It works well on this computer not much lag but I'm having a huge issue with the wireless card that's been quite frustrating.
[19:28] <C6R> !tab novasonic Am i missing something? Say I have file1-file10, individually I can use the command file to determing type. Is there a way to do this all at once?
[19:28] <novasoni1> sorry
[19:28] <novasoni1> my modem resetted itself
[19:28] <novasoni1> did i miss something?
[19:29] <C6R> !tab novasonic Am i missing something? Say I have file1-file10, individually I can use the command file to determing type. Is there a way to do this all at once?
[19:29] <C6R> for all files
[19:29] <novasoni1> C6R: file[1-10]
[19:29] <elenis> hola
[19:29] <reisio> shalom
[19:29] <C6R> So I would have to type out each file? ...
[19:30] <novasoni1> C6R: no, file[1-10] means file1, file2, ... file10
[19:30] <reisio> file file*
[19:30] <Bashing-om> django: What have you decided you want to do ? - a wubi install, or dual boot to that 9 Gigs partition ?
[19:30] <django> dual boot
[19:30] <django> i used the universal USB thing to setup my USB
[19:30] <elenis> hola caracola
[19:30] <C6R> Yea that doesnt work. The file names are different.
[19:31] <elenis> holaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[19:31] <novasoni1> C6R: you can move them to a directory and execute your command for each file in directory like this: dir/*
[19:32] <Bashing-om> Dante1: Sorry 'bout that, wireless is not in my sphere of interest (yet) .. if no satisfaction here on IRC, research in ubuntuforums.org ,
[19:32] <Dante1> Bashing-om: I have and tried all sorts of things to no avail
[19:32] <novasoni1> quit
[19:32] <C6R> Why would I move them? I must not be understanding you. I am currently in the directory containing all the files I want to determine type of. Only 1 file is ascii the rest is data.
[19:33] <C6R> I want to execute 1 single command thats lists all file types
[19:33] <reisio> file *
[19:33] <novasonic> i
[19:33] <reisio> novasonic: agreed
[19:33] <novasonic> reisio: agree what?
[19:34] <django> so?
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: does your ascii file have .ascii extension?
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: how do you determine if it is an ascii file?
[19:35] <C6R> I do not know.
[19:35] <reisio> django: so
[19:35] <Dante1> Bashing-om: is Lubuntu 12.04 still supported?
[19:35] <C6R> ok..
[19:35] <Bashing-om> Dante1: I am aware that wireless can be a pain to get to working in linux. Might I suggest ya search the forum - wireless card and chili555 (resident guru).
[19:35] <hikenboot> anyone able to tell me how i remove the sticky bit for all files in a directory and subdirectories and files I would like to reset permissions to 700 recursively but accidently set stickybit and put ownership to a apache user
[19:35] <django> i used the universal USB installer to setup the ubuntu in my USB----now what
[19:35] <novasonic> C6R: sorry, but I didn't understand your problem
[19:36] <reisio> Dante1: yup
[19:36] <Paramezius> hello
[19:36] <Bashing-om> Da, negayive 12.-4 Lubuntu has become EOL .
[19:36] <reisio> hikenboot: :/
[19:36] <Paramezius> i'm trying to install ubuntu 12.04 in an old mac ppc g5
[19:36] <Paramezius> i downloaded the right ppc img
[19:37] <reisio> to be precise, 12.04.x is still supported
[19:37] <novasonic> C6R: can you talk more specific what do you mean by "ascii file"?
[19:37] <Paramezius> the problem is that the cd start right n a live session
[19:37] <C6R> THe file names are -file00  through  -file10 . If i execute the command file -- -file00 it prints the type as data. I know -file07 prints the type as ascii. The rest prints as data. I simply want to execute a cammand that prints all files (-file00 through -file10) and their types
[19:37] <Bashing-om> django: When you boot the liveUSB, and choose to install, do you see the option "something else " ?
[19:38] <Paramezius> and this session seems to have some kind of problem showing the menus, icons and part of the desktop
[19:38] <reisio> C6R: file -- -file*
[19:38] <Paramezius> I want to install but i see no way
[19:38] <Paramezius> could anybody help me?
[19:38] <reisio> Paramezius: nvidia?
[19:38] <C6R> THANK YOU REISIO
[19:38] <Dante1> reisio and Bashing-om: Well I guess I'm going to dl 12.04 and burn that but first I'm going to try and re-install 13.10 and try one more time to see if I can get it to work and if not then it's off to Lubuntu 12.04 and try my luck there
[19:38] <Paramezius> yes
[19:39] <novasonic> exec chmod 700 for each file in the dir
[19:39] <C6R> thank you novasonic
[19:39] <reisio> Dante1: what for?
[19:39] <C6R> file -- -file* works perfectly
[19:39] <Paramezius> it is an nvidia reisio
[19:39] <reisio> Paramezius: as long as you can see well enough to change the graphics driver out, it's probably fine
[19:39] <Bashing-om> Dante1: Good luck, wull help in any way I can, but wireless is not in my range.
[19:40] <Dante1> reisio: Broadcom 4311 wireless card doesn't seem to work on 13.10. Bashing-om: thanks again. I'll comeback and let you know of my findings
[19:40] <Grepsd> Hi. I have an unknown display, i tried to change resolution using xrandr+cvt, and it worked, after the reboot, the display name changed (DVI-I-1 to DVI-I-0) and now, i cant change anything, i always get an error when trying to run the same procedure (the error is X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes))
[19:40] <Macintrasher> well, now that I know how to manually install drivers, I'm gonna mess with everything else for a while.  I'll be back if I have anymore issues. Thanks to the few that responded!
[19:40] <Dante1> Thanks guys bbl
[19:41] <novasonic> Grepsd: is hotplug enabled by default?
[19:41] <Bashing-om> Dante1: there is a lot of info onthe forum in respect to getting the broadcom wireless working.
[19:41] <Paramezius> reisio: do you know how to change the driver?
[19:41] <Grepsd> novasonic : dont know. Where is this information ?
[19:41] <novasonic> Grepsd: if so can you try to disconnect/reconnect your dvi device?
[19:41] <reisio> Paramezius: usually there's a circuit board icon at top right, otherwise you can find it in the admin menu somewhere
[19:41] <Grepsd> ho, i already tried that, it didnt change name
[19:41] <Grepsd> And i still get the same error.
[19:42] <novasonic> Grepsd: what is the error you get?
[19:42] <Grepsd> this one : http://pastebin.com/KFT5uh63
[19:43] <novasonic> Grepsd: did you try X -configure ?
[19:43] <Grepsd> novasonic: i'm gonna try right now.
[19:43] <django> Bashing-om i havent booted
[19:44] <hikenboot> never mind figured a way around it
[19:45] <kxD7> I was running shred on a hard drive while I was at work, and the power went out, is there a way to know if it completed successfully ?
[19:45] <reisio> kxD7: since shred is a total waste of time
[19:45] <reisio> if it ran for even a second, it should be done
[19:45] <Paramezius> ok reisio i will look fr it ;)
[19:45] <Paramezius> thanks a lot!
[19:46] <reisio> unless the file was truly enormous
[19:46] <kxD7> reisio, I was not running it on a journalled file system
[19:46] <reisio> one overwrite is enough
[19:46] <reisio> shred is a daft util
[19:46] <reisio> shred -n 1, I guess
[19:47] <reisio> but that makes it look even dafter
[19:47] <Bashing-om> django:  1st step, make sure the USB burn is good, boot that USB, soon as bios screen clears press the right shift key -> language screen, escape key to accept default; -> boot option screen -> "check disk for defects".
[19:47] <delinquentme> Ok so Im trying to install node.js ... and I've been told to NOT install as sudo ... however suggestions have been made to compile the package and move it ... which I guess make sense ... however where should I move it to for ubuntu and my current user?
[19:47] <Grepsd> novasonic : cant run this since the Xserver is already started
[19:47] <reisio> delinquentme: I'd use the package manager
[19:47] <reisio> but... I'd also not use node.js :p
[19:48] <nubnub> hi, i am running ubuntu 12.04 and have done apt-get update and upgrade.  my openssl version is 1.0.1. do i need to upgrade openssl?
[19:48] <ikonia> nubnub: no
[19:48] <nubnub> ikonia: thanks
[19:48] <delinquentme> how can I get the package manager to install via $ apt-get install nodejs ... WITHOUT using sudo ?
[19:48] <reisio> nubnub: you want 1.0.1g or higher
[19:48] <ikonia> delinquentme: you don't
[19:48] <delinquentme> because that seems to be the current issue
[19:48] <ikonia> delinquentme: use use sudo
[19:49] <reisio> 'openssl version'
[19:49] <nubnub> reisio: its 1.0.1 alone with no letters
[19:49] <delinquentme> ikonia, packages that I need to install require that it be run as non-sudo
[19:49] <reisio> nubnub: 'openssl version'
[19:49] <ikonia> delinquentme: run it as non-sudo - but install it as sudo
[19:49] <nubnub> OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[19:49] <reisio> nubnub: 2012 is quite old :p
[19:49] <nubnub> reisio:  OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012
[19:49] <Grepsd> Would anyone have an idea on how to fix an unknown display and the fact i cant change its resolution ?
[19:50] <Bashing-om> nubnub: For complete info -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2215886 <- .
[19:50] <nubnub> reisio: its whatever was installed with ubuntu 12.04 and i run apt-get update and upgrade all the time
[19:50] <reisio> nubnub: I don't know, maybe they backported some patches, though
[19:50] <ikonia> reisio: it is a back port
[19:50] <ikonia> !fixssl
[19:50] <reisio> ikonia: good for it
[19:50] <ikonia> !sslfix
[19:50] <ikonia> ughhh
[19:50] <Beldar> !sslbug
[19:50] <_smoothie> #bash
[19:50] <reisio> !yayspam
[19:51] <ikonia> thank you Beldar
[19:51] <Beldar> no prob
[19:51] <k1l> nubnub: to make it short: if you ran the updates its all fine. ubuntu fixed that for all suported versions on april 7th
[19:52] <nubnub> k1l: thanks.
[19:52] <nubnub> ikonia: i did read that link you provided several days ago but was confused again by all the misinformation floating around
[19:53] <ikonia> nubnub: that link is an official link - the info in it is fact, always relay on official docs rather than external sources
[19:53] <reisio> silent patching you don't know about ftw (s/w/l/)
[19:53] <k1l> nubnub: yes, the news site are fast on the panic but very low when it comes to the updated versions
[19:56] <Grepsd> No one with an understanding of xrandr/X/unknown displays ? :x
[19:56] <nubnub> the thing that confused me was that i *think* i created my csr's for 3 websites using a compromised version of openssl, but when i ssl test (https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/) it passed without a problem. that was my point of confusion
[19:58] <jonathan__> Hi
[20:04] <django> ok guys im on ubuntu right now
[20:04] <django> i have the partition but idk if its setup correctly
[20:04] <django> i got some error that the root file isnt ready
[20:06] <fragske> I've tried about everything, I upgraded to 13.10 and my nvidia drivers stopped working
[20:06] <Bashing-om> django: (??) Ya mean that you have booted ubuntu from that liveUSB, and getting that error ar boot up ? .
[20:06] <fragske> i added the ppa, but no succes :(
[20:07] <fragske> every time I upgrade, I'm in a world of pain
[20:07] <k1l> fragske: which card? dual video cards?
[20:08] <fragske> GTX 650 ti
[20:08] <fragske> what i would love to do is to reinstall the machine, but it doesn't boot from cdrom or usbstick either
[20:09] <karab44> when ubuntu 1404 quick
[20:09] <k1l> is that a intel+nvidia thing=
[20:09] <Linda73> Hello! What is the CORRECT way of updating/upgrading Ubuntu tomorrow? I have heard all sorts of different command line combinations and it is making my head spin. Please?
[20:10] <xangua> Linda73: update manager will notify you
[20:10] <Pici> Linda73: What release are you on now?
[20:10] <fragske> what do yoiu mean with intel+nvidia
[20:10] <Linda73> Pici: 13.10
[20:10] <k1l> Linda73: run update-manager and it will show you to upgrade to 14.04. but wait untill the servers are synced
[20:10] <Linda73> xangua: First time I hear that.
[20:10] <Linda73> k1l: How do I know when that is?
[20:11] <Pici> Linda73: Update manager will notify you, or you could just run update-manager manually or run sudo do-release-upgrade  from a terminal.
[20:11] <k1l> Linda73: update-manager is the "you got updates" window
[20:11] <Linda73> Now I am even more confused. Why did those other guys tell me to type stuff in the terminal?
[20:12] <k1l> Linda73: dont know that other guys
[20:12] <fragske> Linda73: because you have multipal options to upgrade you're system
[20:12] <fragske> multiple
[20:12] <Pici> your
[20:12] <Linda73> fragske: But I want THE way. ;)
[20:12] <Linda73> k1l: :D
[20:12] <k1l> fragske: that seems to solve your issue: http://askubuntu.com/questions/61396/installing-nvidia-drivers/61433#61433
[20:12] <fragske> THE way, is just to wait for it :)
[20:12] <k1l> Linda73: we told you the official way :)
[20:12] <kijn> fucking :°) TA GOULLE
[20:13] <Pici> fragske: I prefer to use do-release-upgrade because I like the terminal.  Other people might prefer the gui method, so update-manager is better for them.
[20:13] <Pici> oops, mistab.. whatever.
[20:13] <karab44> why I can't download official 14.04 ?
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: it is not ready yet
[20:14] <Pici> karab44: because it hasn't been released yet.
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: wait untill the release tomorrow
[20:14] <karab44> why I am from japan and here is 17.04 date of release
[20:14] <rypervenche> hahahaha
[20:14] <k1l> karab44: the wait until 23:59
[20:14] <karab44> I have 17.04 already japan
[20:14] <karab44> tora tora tora
[20:14] <Pici> !party
[20:15] <Dante1> I have returned with a story of success! :D
[20:15] <karab44> yes already on party channel
[20:16] <karab44> they told me hit f5 every second there http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/
[20:16] <k1l> karab44: please stop. just wait in party channel for the official announcment
[20:16] <karab44> I must be first
[20:16] <k1l> karab44: then install the beta
[20:17] <Dante1> Bashing-om: What I did this time was sudo apt-get updates. After I then did sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree. I went into additional devices and made sure that the linux firmware nonfree was selected then rebooted the system and now the wireless card works
[20:17] <karab44> beta=upgrade=issues
[20:17] <Dante1> Bashing-om: so that last thread you sent me did the trick
[20:18] <Dante1> Bashing-om: thanks again buddy I owe you one :D
[20:18] <Bashing-om> Dante1; You do good work ! Pleased things are working out.
[20:19] <Dante1> well be back in a little bit it's time to eat!
[20:20] <coolman_bg84> hello guys :)
[20:20] <fragske> so 14.04 coming out tonight?
[20:21] <coolman_bg84> what you thing about  zebra - a routing manager
[20:30] <C6R> Is there a way to search for a file by its byte size? Say the file is 1000 bytes. I have 100 files in a directory. Is there a way to pin point the file by searching specifically for a ser byte size?
[20:30] <C6R> I can du -a but who wants to go through 100 files.
[20:30] <alt2quicktables> can anyone recommend me a newbie friendly and *currently supported* alternative to quicktables?  http://freecode.com/projects/quicktables
[20:35] <alt2quicktables> i am after a console based alternative. not a gui app
[20:36] <qin> C6R: find . -size 1k; man find;
[20:36] <mwic> I can't get proftpd to start, can someone troubleshoot with me ?
[20:36] <mwic>  /etc/init.d/proftpd restart
[20:36] <mwic> ProFTPd is started from inetd/xinetd.
[20:37] <mwic> i can't tell if that's an error, or just a message, but there's no proftpd process after doing it
[20:44] <macson333> gooday govna
[20:44] <macson333> sup
[20:46] <lanyons> Hello
[20:46] <john_rambo> The 12.04 repos are having trouble ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7263690/
[20:47] <k1l> john_rambo: maybe its your provider?
[20:47] <ikonia> repos are fine
[20:48] <john_rambo> I change the DNS and try again
[20:48] <john_rambo> will
[20:48] <k1l> john_rambo: just tried it on my 12.04 box and it works fine
[20:50] <Dante1> so what's the deal with flash support on Lubuntu 13.10
[20:50] <ikonia> there is noe
[20:50] <ikonia> flash is dead on linux
[20:50] <Dante1> I thought there was a plugin for firefox in the Ubuntu Software center
[20:50] <novasonic> Dante1: there are open-source alternatives to flash
[20:50] <ikonia> it's the old one as adobe has stopped developing it
[20:51] <ikonia> novasonic: there is no realistic open source version
[20:51] <C6R> I just wanted to say thanks to all of you in Ubuntu, and the computer secerity world itself. Thanks to the people who don't mind helping. Your appreciated.
[20:51] <theadmin> Chrome has Flash, that's about it
[20:51] <novasonic> Dante1: google chrome has a built-in flash support
[20:51] <Dante1> ohhhh cool I wasn't aware of that
[20:51] <novasonic> Dante1: regardless of operating system
[20:52] <macson333> sup guys
[20:52] <Dante1> hello
[20:52] <john_rambo> Dunno why the SAVE button is grayed out in network manager after changing DNS http://imagebin.org/305990
[20:53] <C6R> I just wanted to say thanks to all of you in Ubuntu, and the computer secerity world itself. Thanks to the people who don't mind helping. Your appreciated.
[20:53] <ikonia> C6R: you've said that
[20:53] <C6R> Sorry when I hit enter it updated a lot of chat at once. Didn't know if it got out
[20:54] <Dante1> novasonic: by the way if you're curious about how I got my wireless card running I did a fresh install of Lubuntu 13.10 then I went into terminal and prompted sudo apt-get updates (connected via USB tethering). Then after the update I did sudo apt-get install linux-firmware-nonfree. After that I went into additional devices made sure the linux firmware non free was selected, rebooted the system and it worked
[20:54] <macson333>  what did i miss
[20:54] <macson333> sup
[20:55] <xX99oddXx> can anyone help me with this? E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[20:55] <Dante1> novasonic: Bashing-om pointed me to the right thread to where I found out about the linux firmware nonfree
[20:55] <geirha> xX99oddXx: That error message is useless without the preceding lines
[20:55] <k1l> xX99oddXx: please show the whole output in a pastebin
[20:56] <jhutchins> !paste | xX99oddXx
[20:56] <novasonic> ~
[20:56] <novasonic> w
[20:57] <jhutchins> !flash
[20:57] <jhutchins> Dante1: ^
[20:57] <Enemtee> anyone with experience of compiling programs from source-code? i would need some guiding from a helpful soul :)
[20:58] <jhutchins> Dante1: Sorry for the earlier misinformation.
[20:58] <george2> after a do-release-upgrade on a 13.04 Ubuntu Server, my boot hangs here. http://i.imgur.com/EDa1AzM.png I'm in a recovery mode root shell now. any ideas?
[20:58] <george2> I'm seeing people saying to remove graphics drivers, but I'm not sure what driver the server is using.
[20:58] <Dante1> jutchins: that's okay, thanks for the link :)
[20:58] <jhutchins> george2: Describe the screen where it hangs for those of use who are text-only please.
[20:58] <george2> lshc says the vendor is Matrox
[20:59] <george2> jhutchins: partway through init, on "Stopping Read required files in advance"
[20:59] <george2> no errors shown
[20:59] <jhutchins> george2: Can you get to a console with Ctrl-Alt-F1?
[20:59] <xX99oddXx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7263755/ is the whole output
[20:59] <OerHeks> !build | Enemtee
[21:00] <george2> jhutchins: nope
[21:01] <george2> jhutchins: oh, you mean during init, not in recovery mode?
[21:01] <k1l> xX99oddXx: what ubuntu is that exactly? why are you root? do you have PPAs enabled?
[21:01] <jhutchins> xX99oddXx: See lines 5 and 20?
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> i am not an idiot >.> ive tried that already
[21:02] <jhutchins> george2: Yeah, just trying to guess if it's starting X and failing or not getting that far.  That you can do recovery mode is a good sign.
[21:02] <jakemp> Is there a way to move the menu at the top of the default pdf reader to the side, so I can fit a full sized page on my screen?
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> and i am root because we just got the server and our host is eurpoean so hes not responding
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> so we cant setup new
[21:02] <xX99oddXx> users
[21:02] <george2> jhutchins: ok, trying now. This is a server, so I'm not using a graphical environment, if that matters.
[21:03] <k1l> xX99oddXx: firefox on a server?
[21:03] <k1l> xX99oddXx: again: what ubuntu is that exactly? what PPAs are enabled?
[21:03] <jhutchins> !sources.list | xX99oddXx
[21:03] <jhutchins> Make sure you have that set up correctly.
[21:04] <jhutchins> xX99oddXx: I presume that apt-get -f install had problems as well?
[21:04] <sean_s> Hello. Looking for the best channel to ask a question about the Cloud Images - the Vagrant one, specifically.
[21:04] <xX99oddXx> yes
[21:05] <Jordan_U> sean_s: #ubuntu-server is probably your best bet.
[21:07] <george2> jhutchins: ok, logged in to the tty in normal mode
[21:17] <jhutchins> george2: Um, no GUI pretty much negates my course of inquiry.
[21:17] <george2> jhutchins: ha, ok :)
[21:18] <george2> The motd is telling me to run do-release-upgrade, so I'm going to try doing that again and see if it gets me anywhere
[21:19] <xX99oddXx> ugh
[21:19] <like> hey
[21:19] <george2> where would I look for what might be stopping init? dmesg doesn't seem to show anything obvious. boot.log maybe?
[21:19] <Kartagis> what java package do I need for webex webinars?
[21:19] <like> no one ? :O
[21:20] <bekks> Kartagis: you need the webex software.
[21:20] <bekks> Kartagis: And you will need the sun java jdk.
[21:20] <Kartagis> sun
[21:20] <bekks> "Oracle" :)
[21:20] <Kartagis> I got open and wondered why I didn't get through
[21:20] <Dante1> I can watch vine compilations on YouTube :)
[21:20] <Dante1> lol
[21:21] <jhutchins> george2: Yeah, enable bootlog, make sure you're getting verbose startup messages (no "quiet" on boot command line, no splashscreen).
[21:21] <Kartagis> bekks: what is the package name?
[21:22] <jhutchins> !java
[21:22] <Kartagis> I am getting sun-javadb-core
[21:22] <Kartagis> no oracle
[21:22] <bekks> !java | Kartagis
[21:22] <george2> jhutchins: enable bootlog? there is no logging by default?
[21:23] <Dante1> well I'm off, thanks all of you for your help I'll probably be back on here for kicks and giggles
[21:23] <Bashing-om> Dante1: enjoy !
[21:25] <AnthonyUK> Last week I messed up mythtv by upgrading it, couldn't fix it as I'm not a linux pro. My method to fix this after hours/days of trying other stuff is to simply reformat 12.04, then I thought isnt there a new one out soon and there is. my question is what time!
[21:26] <calzifer_> hi, how can i change the unity super 1-9 keyboard shortcuts in 14.04?
[21:30] <jhutchins> !boootlog
[21:30] <jhutchins> !bootlog
[21:30] <jhutchins> Sigh.
[21:30] <OerHeks> calzifer_, wait for a few hours for release 14.04
[21:30] <AnthonyUK> ?
[21:30] <OerHeks> bootchart jhutchins ?
[21:31] <AnthonyUK> does the new version get released at 00:01 UTC ?
[21:31] <bekks> No.
[21:31] <k1l> AnthonyUK: no. mostly on afternoon
[21:31] <bekks> Until 23:59 it should be released.
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> so I could be in for a wait of a bit longer than 24 hours?
[21:32] <bekks> AnthonyUK: yes.
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> thanks bekks
[21:32] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, maybe, join #ubuntu-release-party and you will notice when
[21:32] <AnthonyUK> lol OerHeks I will check out that channel
[21:33] <calzifer_> so no usefull answer for me? :|
[21:33] <tytan> In how many hours will trusty thar be released?
[21:33] <bekks> tytan: Within the next 24,5 hours.
[21:33] <AnthonyUK> I've installed and ran a few different distros but this is the first time I have waited for a new release, so I was wondering will the download servers be able to cope? or is it best to make sure you download via torrent?
[21:34] <tytan> AnthonyUK: Î recommend torrent
[21:34] <Faux> Sometimes someone bothers to pay for Akamai, but the torrents are always excellently seeded.
[21:34] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, as usual: avoid ftp mirrors, use torrent ( and updates will be slow for today)
[21:34] <calzifer_> AnthonyUK: 14.04 is running fine so far - i programmed ~15 hours c++ and java, wrote several latex papers ...
[21:34] <AnthonyUK> Cheers guys and gals
[21:34] <tytan> AnthonyUK: In fact I want to seed from the beginning because I have a very good internet con nection. That's why I asked when it's released exactly :)
[21:35] <KingB> YO dawgs
[21:35] <tytan> yo
[21:35] <AnthonyUK> I have 1 meg upload, its not much but I'd be willing to stop all my regular torrents to help seed this
[21:35] <KingB> what's cracking internet fiends?
[21:35] <bekks> tytan: join #ubuntu-release-party then
[21:35] <KingB> what's the latest on this heartbleed thing?
[21:35] <larrypg> on the other hand...bandwidth is increased quite a bit on realease
[21:36] <tytan> bekks: Didn't know about it, sorry ^^;
[21:36] <bekks> !sslbug | kingb
[21:36] <KingB> cheers for that
[21:36] <KingB> I can sleep easy tonight
[21:36] <KingB> I think
[21:37] <OerHeks> watch -n 60 'curl -s http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/   | grep '14.04-desktop' && notify-send "Ubuntu 14.04 Torrent Available :)"'
[21:37] <KingB> thank God for that
[21:37] <AnthonyUK> what is that OerHeks?
[21:38] <bekks> AnthonyUK: The torrent list.
[21:38] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, small script to watch official torrents for 14.04-desktop
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> OerHeks: it's clever; I like it
[21:38] <zerowaitstate> never thought of using watch that way
[21:39] <OerHeks> * every 60 seconds
[21:39] <AnthonyUK> I'm on windows right now but if I type it into my homesrver on vnc I will message me the moment 14.04 is released?
[21:39] <OerHeks> AnthonyUK, yes, the moment the torrents are announced
[21:39] <AnthonyUK> cool, thanks
[21:40] <penth> nice. I appreciated they put out the press release yesterday confirming tomorrow's release date.
[21:40] <zerenei> g.
[21:41] <KingB> This may or not be the right place
[21:41] <KingB> however
[21:41] <KingB> I am planning on purchasing a Lenovo T430
[21:41] <KingB> what have been people's experience of using Ubuntu/Xubuntu on Lenovo Thinkpads vintage 2012/2013
[21:41] <KingB> *peoples'
[21:42] <ikonia> the 430 is supported fine, however if you get options such as the nvidia card make sure you get the versions that work
[21:42] <penth> I have a 2011 Lenovo Ideapad and it's been rock solid with 12.04 and 13.10
[21:42] <penth> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201112-10223/
[21:42] <zerenei> no fuc u.
[21:42] <SirCheezaLot> fghgnfgn
[21:43] <SirCheezaLot> who is diz?.?.?.
[21:43] <delinquentme> OK I've installed an application as sudo which I'd like to be able to run as my $USER
[21:43] <delinquentme> how do I make this edit  ? $ which appname
[21:43] <SirCheezaLot> i hate all of you!!
[21:43] <delinquentme> then add my $USER to that group?
[21:43] <SirCheezaLot> no you stupid
[21:43] <KingB> you noobs
[21:43] <ikonia> SirCheezaLot: final warning
[21:43] <ikonia> KingB: you too
[21:44] <ikonia> delinquentme: what happens if you run it as your user
[21:44] <ikonia> SirCheezaLot: drop the silly comments please
[21:44] <Golynx> SirCheezaLot: you can only hate yourself. So please take your personal issues out infront of a qualified psychiatrist
[21:44] <KingB> I ain't no noob
[21:45] <KingB> lol Golynx, that was hardcore
[21:45] <r1h> is it out yet?
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: no
[21:45] <bekks> r1h: Nope.
[21:45] <k1l> guys, he is gone, lets focus on support again :)
[21:45] <delinquentme> error: Appium will not work if used or installed with sudo. Please rerun/install as a non-root user. If you had to install Appium using `sudo npm install -g appium`, the solution is to reinstall Node using a method (Homebrew, for example) that doesn't require sudo to install global npm packages.  <<< ikonia
[21:45] <r1h> but its the 17th?
[21:45] <ikonia> delinquentme what command are you using exactly
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: so ?
[21:45] <zerenei> f
[21:45] <bekks> r1h: It will be out until 23:59
[21:45] <delinquentme> $ appium
[21:45] <ikonia> r1h: it will be announced when it's out
[21:46] <r1h> 23:39 NZDT?
[21:46] <k1l> !party | r1h
[21:46] <r1h> k1l, thx
[21:46] <k1l> r1h: but its for sure at least 12 hours away.
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: please show me EXACTLY what you are running
[21:47] <delinquentme> theres this fantastic conflict ikonia where node.js is supposed to be installed as non-sudo  ... but none of the ubuntu packages will install without sudo
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: there is no conflict
[21:47] <ikonia> delinquentme: show me EXACTLY what you are running
[21:47] <r1h> k1l, maybe they are doing last minute checks to get gnome 3.12 stable
[21:47] <delinquentme> https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/10936495
[21:48] <delinquentme> lemmet update it
[21:48] <k1l> r1h: i dont think so. the freeze was some time ago
[21:49] <ikonia> delinquentme: how did you install appium ?
[21:50] <delinquentme> ok updated ikonia https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/10936495  ...   The claim is that I need to install node.js without sudo ... so MAYBE the question is how to compile it ... so that I can run it as non-sudo
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: appium is not node.js
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: how did you install appium
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: npm is nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:51] <ikonia> delinquentme: so basically it's user error
[21:51] <ikonia> and nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> $ sudo npm install -g appium
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: so that's your problem/fault
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: npm is NOT the ubuntu package manager, nor is it ubuntu packages
[21:52] <ikonia> delinquentme: infact, those installs are nothing to do with ubuntu
[21:52] <delinquentme> ikonia, gotya
[21:53] <delinquentme> so then it goes down to node.js being installed as non-sudo
[21:53] <delinquentme> SO! how do I do that?
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: no it doesn't
[21:53] <delinquentme> npm runs within node.js no?
[21:53] <ikonia> d	why do you keep saying node.js is hte problem - where in the error message does it say node.js
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: no, not at all
[21:53] <ikonia> delinquentme: https://www.npmjs.org/
[21:54] <delinquentme> npm should be able to install globally sans sudo via node.js
[21:54] <ikonia> delinquentme: what are you talking about ???
[21:54] <ikonia> install globally sans sudo ???
[21:56] <delinquentme> ikonia, reinstall Node using a method (Homebrew, for example) that doesn't require sudo to install global npm packages.
[21:56] <ikonia> no it doesn't say that
[21:56] <ikonia> delinquentme: install the node
[21:56] <ikonia> not node.js
[21:56] <ikonia> the node is appium
[21:57] <ikonia> hence npm being "node package manager"
[21:57]  * delinquentme blinks
[21:58] <delinquentme> if node == appium ... then npm == "node package manager"  >> "appium package manger"
[21:58] <ikonia> delinquentme: I'm sorry, you appear to have no idea what you are doing
[21:58] <cloneG> hey people I have a technical question...
[21:58] <cloneG> I am running ubuntu dual boot with windows 7  and I found this thread: http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com.es/2009/11/dual-boot-windows-7-and-os-x-snow.html
[21:58] <ikonia> I suggest you look at learning the basics of the node.js stuff and the node package manager - which is not something I'd suggest you use
[21:59] <cloneG> one hd for each system
[21:59] <k1l> cloneG: that is macOS, not ubuntu
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l I know but I do use ubuntu
[22:00] <ikonia> that doesn't mean we are your technical support for everything non-ubuntu
[22:00] <k1l> cloneG: so what is the ubuntu support question? :)
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l would grub still work ?
[22:00] <ikonia> cloneG: is this on a mac device ?
[22:00] <ikonia> as in an apple computer ?
[22:00] <cloneG> k1l installing the three os
[22:01] <cloneG> one disk for ubuntu and another hd for mac and windows
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> intel
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> the same page tells the way to install mac on intel
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:01] <cloneG> even pentium 4 succeed!!!!
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: if you don't answer the quesiton you will be rmeoved
[22:01] <ikonia> cloneG: is this an apple computer ?
[22:02] <cloneG> ?
[22:02] <cloneG> which?
[22:02] <ikonia> cloneG: is the device an apple computer
[22:02] <cloneG> no
[22:02] <cloneG> its intel
[22:02] <cloneG> no apple
[22:02] <ikonia> cloneG: ok - so the short answer is "yes" grub will work, however we do not support hackintosh so please don't ask for help
[22:02] <cloneG> oops
[22:02] <betabertus8899> hey guys when will the 14.04 be on the ubuntu site for download?
[22:02] <k1l> !party | betabertus8899
[22:02] <ikonia> betabertus8899: there will be an announcment
[22:03] <betabertus8899> very cool
[22:10] <delinquentme> /usr/local is a typical install dir for programs being used by the current $USER right?
[22:10] <ikonia> no
[22:10] <ikonia> it's up to you %101
[22:10] <ikonia> there is no typical
[22:10] <ikonia>  /usr/local does work though
[22:12] <k1l_> or /home/... or /opt/....   or or or
[22:14] <karab44> hello
[22:15] <humanuser_> When will Ubuntu 14.04 be released finally???
[22:15] <ikonia> humanuser_: some point in the next 24 hours
[22:15] <karab44> I have nvidia and intel HD graphics and wondering is Ubuntu supporting power saving mode for this hybrid?
[22:15] <humanuser_> :P
[22:16] <humanuser_> just wanted to be the first asking this question today :D
[22:16] <ikonia> humanuser_: you failed
[22:16] <karab44> D:
[22:16] <ikonia> it's been asked 50+ times already
[22:16] <karab44> humanuser_: join #ubuntu-release-party
[22:17] <humanuser_> ikonia, NO! you smashed my dreams
[22:17] <karab44> anybody oriented in my case? What do I need to get hybrid working as it should?
[22:17] <ikonia> karab44: it's an argumentative topic - my opinion is "don't depend on it working"
[22:17] <karab44> I pay quite high energy bills last days
[22:17] <humanuser_> karab44, cool, thx
[22:18] <karab44> ikonia: what do you mean? How to measure is it working or not?
[22:18] <ikonia> karab44: it depends on a lot of things and it may work today - fail tomorrow
[22:18] <Bashing-om> karab44: What re;ease are you running -> 13.10 has the better support from ubuntu.
[22:18] <ikonia> "better support" ???
[22:18] <sakang> humanuser_: at least you might be the first fail  .. heheh
[22:18] <karab44> Is it enabled by default?
[22:18] <ikonia> it's a driver from nvidia that deals with it
[22:19] <ikonia> it's nothing to do with ubuntu
[22:19] <karab44> ikonia: generally what you say is not true
[22:19] <karab44> there is nvidia prime and bumblebee
[22:19] <ikonia> karab44: well.....it is true, but if you disagree, why are you asking "does it work"
[22:19] <karab44> ikonia: no it's not
[22:19] <ikonia> then why are you asking if it works ?
[22:20] <ikonia> I've just said it doesn't work - you say "that's not true" - so it does work, why are you asking if it works or not if you already know it does
[22:20] <karab44> I know there's solution, Where did I say it works?
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: you have your answer "it works"
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: a solution ?
[22:20] <ikonia> karab44: I said it doesn't work - it's a set of components in flux, you say "that's not true" the opposite of "it doesn't work" is "it works"
[22:21] <Bashing-om> karab44: ikonia : ->https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics <- "we have worked to officially support Hybrid graphics in Ubuntu 13.10 and in 12.04.3 LTS."
[22:21] <ikonia> Bashing-om: yeah, it still fails
[22:21] <ikonia> depending on your card, the nvidia modules and bumblebee
[22:21] <ikonia> it's not something I would suggest you depend on
[22:21] <ikonia> however that's up to you if you want to
[22:22] <zengr> Hello, this code works from command line but doesn't work when I place it in crontab @reboot: httptime=$(curl http://www.timeapi.org/utc/now) && date -s "$httptime" Any suggestions?
[22:22] <karab44> ikonia: this is normal if you use something you paid for
[22:22] <ikonia> karab44: errr not if it's not supported/doesn't work dependable
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: hence "don't depend on it"
[22:23] <karab44> in my case it's hybrid technology and I want to use it and get profit of more efficient power management
[22:23] <ikonia> zengr: check your paths
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: ok, so try to use it then
[22:23] <ikonia> karab44: see how you get on
[22:23] <zengr> ikonia: Not sure what you mean, check for what in PATH?
[22:23] <BarnabasDK> karab44, to my exp, you do  not save that much by going by the non discrete chipset
[22:23] <ikonia> zengr: the commands, crontab doesn't have a fully set up shell env
[22:24] <ikonia> zengr: or try puttin the commands in a shell script and calling the shell script from cron
[22:24] <BarnabasDK> karab44, depends mostly on what you do with it
[22:24] <zengr> ikonia: I see, okay. Let me try it out
[22:24] <karab44> BarnabasDK: most of time desktop
[22:24] <BarnabasDK> karab44, for me too, I just stick with the discrete setting
[22:25] <karab44> so I don't need 580gtx to work on full throttle
[22:25] <jtran> anyone know if ther's anything i can do to stop ubuntu from trying to modify my /etc/network/interfaces?
[22:25] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the nvidia driver supports adaptive clocking
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran:  it shouldn't modify it
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: what's modifying it ?
[22:25] <jtran> i hvae a static /etc/network/interface and it keeps trying to add eth4 dhcp  when i've left it out on purpose
[22:25] <karab44> BarnabasDK: you mean nvidia settings discrete config?
[22:25] <karab44> how to set that?
[22:25] <BarnabasDK> karab44, yes
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: is it disabled in network manager ?
[22:25] <jtran> and also i've created an interface bond1.2002 with a gateway setting that keeps removng the gateway line
[22:25] <ikonia> jtran: do you have anything configure in network manager ?
[22:25] <jtran> ikonia:  i don't think so it's ubntu server i'm trying to configure everything thru cli only since ono gui
[22:26] <karab44> BarnabasDK: and what will happen when I set to discrete and launch CAD/Blender/A game ?
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> karab44, never really have seen the use for the intel gpu chipset, I think its a bit of a waste
[22:26] <ikonia> jtran: network manager is also available without a gui
[22:26] <jtran> ikonia: kk i'll look into that.
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the "discrete" setting is using the full on nvidia card afaik?
[22:26] <BarnabasDK> is on my lappie
[22:27] <karab44> BarnabasDK: I don't care are intel will work together with nvidia. It's not big profit. I want that intel work instead nvidia in desktop
[22:27] <jtran> ikonia:  isn't that unusual tho that network manager tries to modify my custom network/interfaces file?  i haven't seen that before or not noticed it
[22:27] <ikonia> jtran:  it shouldn't be doing that - but it's the most logical starting point, also check the init scripts, and those triggered by udev
[22:27] <jtran> kk
[22:27] <ikonia> jtran: nothing should be modifying it on the fly from my perspective
[22:28] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the intel gpu will  *only* work on your lappies screen
[22:28] <zengr> ikonia: That ddn't work, I created a file, chmod a+x it and placed it in @reboot. It still didn't update the time
[22:28] <BarnabasDK> karab44, with the right setting for the nvidia gpu, you do not really save any juice
[22:28] <karab44> BarnabasDK: Did you mean adaptive mode? It's set to adaptive already
[22:28] <ikonia> zengr: can you run the script manually
[22:28] <zengr> yes
[22:28] <zengr> it works manually
[22:28] <ikonia> zengr: can you pastebin the script please.
[22:28] <zengr> sure
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, I am talking about your setting in the bios
[22:29] <hikenboot> how do i compair files and folders and folders and files in that folder with another directory...looking for differences in permissions only
[22:29] <dioioib> did you run the script with ./<scriptname>
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, I just run with the "discrete" setting there
[22:29] <karab44> BarnabasDK: No, I am asking about nvidia-settings card mode
[22:29] <karab44> so discrete is BIOS settings somewhere?
[22:29] <BarnabasDK> karab44, that does not affect the intel gpu in any way
[22:30] <natedawg> Hey guys im new to linux though have been using it for years and i love it but i want to understand it more fundementedly
[22:30] <BarnabasDK> karab44, in windows the driver can switch between two gpus depending on your need - not so in linux afaik
[22:30] <natedawg> Will my linux + help?
[22:30] <zengr> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/RS2DTFBN
[22:30] <ikonia> natedawg: you're what ?
[22:31] <BarnabasDK> karab44, you need to choose
[22:31] <BarnabasDK> karab44, the intel gpu or the nvidia
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: ok, so pretty much ignored everything I said
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: I told you crontab has no VALID SHELL SETUP
[22:31] <ikonia> zengr: so it doesn't know where "curl" is
[22:31] <ikonia> it doesn't know where "date" is
[22:31] <karab44> I just take a look at nvidia-settings and PowerMizer shows nice G-Cl 50MHz MemCl 135MHz PrcCl 101MHz so it's very nice. Wondering how rated is Intel HD
[22:32] <karab44> BarnabasDK: bumblebee and nvidia-prime allows hybrid tech to work
[22:32] <karab44> generally...
[22:32] <BarnabasDK> karab44, on a per application level yes
[22:32] <zengr> ikonia: Ah. So how can I get passed this? I cannot use ntp because the port 123 is blocked
[22:32] <zengr> ikonia: I need to update the time on everyreboot
[22:32] <ikonia> zengr: set the path in the script AS I TOLD YOU
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: really - try paying attention to what is being given to you when you ask for help
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: if you don't understand, just say
[22:33] <karab44> BarnabasDK: so once again, I have to look for discrete somewhere in my PC BIOS ? And this discrete is related to intel HD card?
[22:33] <kupo_> does autoremove and autoclean not work the same on mint?
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: but it's really frustrating to ask for help - get help, you ignore it and just get no-where
[22:33] <kupo_> never shows a list or anything when i do so
[22:33] <zengr> ikonia: I dont understand what you say "set the path in the script".
[22:33] <zengr> ikonia: sorry about that
[22:33] <BarnabasDK> karab44, yes it will turn it off effectively, and just use the nvidia gpu with the powermizer mode
[22:33] <ikonia> zengr: do you understand how a shell works with it's environment variables ?
[22:34] <k1l_> kupo_: mint works different, please ask them
[22:34] <k1l_> !mint | kupo_
[22:34] <zengr> ikonia: yes
[22:34] <BarnabasDK> "autoclocking"
[22:34] <karab44> brb
[22:34] <ikonia> zengr: ok, so look at the $PATH variable - cron doesn't have that setup
[22:34] <kupo_> alrighty. no a big deal. thanks it's not my primary OS> just have it on a laptop
[22:34] <ikonia> zengr: so either set it, or use absoluate paths to the binaries
[22:34] <qin> kupo_: maybe they are aliased with -y; who knows?
[22:35] <zengr> ikonia: Ok, so what should be the value of $PATH in my script? "export $PATH=/bin/"
[22:35] <ikonia> zengr: set it to what you feel is right for the binaries you are using
[22:35] <zengr> ok
[22:35] <ikonia> and export $PATH won't work, PATH is the variable, not $PATH
[22:35] <zengr> ikonia: ok
[22:37] <Glycan> Dropbox messed up, I want to stop using it, but it still pops up telling me to log in every startup. How can I change this?
[22:38] <ikonia> remove the package
[22:38] <andrewvos> Erm, I deleted a whole lot of files in my home directory by mistake. Do I need to recreate it?
[22:38] <andrewvos> There's a whole lot of things gone from .config
[22:38] <ikonia> depends what you removed
[22:39] <ikonia> see what breaks and fix it
[22:39] <andrewvos> What would be a problem if I remove dit?
[22:39] <ikonia> depends what you had in there
[22:39] <andrewvos> All I care about is system stability really
[22:39] <ikonia> andrewvos: then just fix any problems as they happen
[22:39] <Glycan> $ sudo apt-get purge dropbox
[22:39] <peterrooney> andrewvos: if it's in your home directory, your system stability is fine.
[22:39] <Glycan> E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[22:40] <andrewvos> peterrooney, ikonia cool thanks
[22:40] <andrewvos> Luckily everything important was in ~/Dropbox
[22:40] <andrewvos> So i should be ok, when it finishes downloading in the year 2025
[22:40] <ikonia> what ?
[22:41] <andrewvos> Never mind I'm making a joke about dropbox being slow.
[22:41] <Glycan> ikonia: uh, what I said above
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: what?
[22:42] <Glycan> E: Unable to locate package dropbox
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: is that the name of the package you installed ?
[22:42] <Glycan> dropbox
[22:42] <Glycan> afair I installed from a script
[22:42] <ikonia> Glycan: then look at what that script did
[22:43] <ikonia> Glycan: and undo it
[22:43] <Glycan> oh yeah, that's gotta be easier than looking through all of the startup things
[22:44] <ikonia> what startup "things"
[22:45] <Mordor> Hi guys. Can I find from somewhere what new features were added at 14.04 ?
[22:45] <adam_____> I've created a samba share on my Ubuntu box. But browsing pictures takes a long time. How can I use thumbnails to quickly browse the pictures from my Android tablet?? On vacation right now, trying to sort photos.
[22:46] <ikonia> adam_____: the viewer you are using needs to support thumbnails
[22:46] <ikonia> adam_____: it' client not server functionality
[22:46] <karab44> hmm
[22:46] <karab44> I just enabled 64bit hpet
[22:46] <Glycan> ikonia: well, it starts on startup - there's like, inittab or fstab or whatever it was that had the stuff for startup, so it's got to be in somewhere there, right?
[22:46] <ikonia> Glycan: no
[22:46] <karab44> but haven't find any discrete option for intel HD... well I could disable it but I didn't
[22:46] <adam_____> ikonia: really? I thought they were supposed to be generated by the machine
[22:47] <craze> Mordor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes
[22:47] <Glycan> ikonia: how so?
[22:47] <ikonia> Glycan: there are many ways it can be started, and just removing the startup script - doesn't stop other functionality from running, hence removing it/undoing what that script did is correct
[22:47] <Glycan> how could it be started?
[22:47] <ikonia> adam_____: if the client can display them though is the problem though
[22:47] <ikonia> Glycan: many ways, hence why looking what that script does is key
[22:48] <adam_____> ikonia: where are the thumbnails stored?
[22:48] <ikonia> adam_____: normally on demand from your client
[22:49] <natedawg> Hey guys where can i go to become proficient in the bash shell and the command line
[22:49] <natedawg> ?
[22:49] <Glycan> thank you
[22:49] <ikonia> natedawg: many guides on the internet
[22:49] <ikonia> natedawg: keep in mind this channel supports ubuntu linux, not generic linux questions
[22:49] <Glycan> natedawg: the advice I was given was to read man complages completely whenever you want to figure out something
[22:49] <adam_____> ikonia: really.. what part of Ubuntu or samba provides that?
[22:50] <ikonia> adam_____: non, it's client
[22:50] <natedawg> They dont always explain everything
[22:50] <Glycan> as in, whenever you would do something, instead of finding just what you want, read the whole documentation for that tool
[22:50] <Glycan> preferably with references
[22:50] <adam_____> ikonia: that defeats the purpose, it would have to transfer the whole file to do that
[22:50] <ikonia> adam_____: no, it wouldn't
[22:51] <Bashing-om> natedawg: Look at -> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FullBashGuide .
[22:52] <karab44> The cool thing is that hybrid gpu will be detected by default on 1404 or maybe available for enabling. For now I leave it as it is, especially that my PCIE card works in 50Mhz
[22:52] <q0> I can't find resources on how to forward internet connection with ethernet from linux to unix ?
[22:52] <ikonia> q0: what are you trying to do exactly ?
[22:53] <Kingen> hello taiwan ...
[22:53] <Kingen> Skilled peoples, but why hide the original coders ?
[22:53] <q0> there's no other way to provide access to the second system
[22:53] <ikonia> Kingen: what do you want ?
[22:53] <Kingen> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsjX1xymU0
[22:53] <ikonia> Kingen: please don't post those urls
[22:53] <ikonia> q0: explain what you are trying to do, as what you are saying does not make sense
[22:54] <frankest> how do you enable wireless power saving on wlan0
[22:54] <ikonia> Kingen: this channel is for ubuntu support discussion
[22:54] <q0> ikonia, simply, provide internet access from my linux to the other one
[22:54] <Kingen> Ikonia: To meet skilled coders i suppose
[22:54] <ikonia> Kingen: ok, so this is not the channel you need
[22:54] <q0> from ubuntu*
[22:54] <k1l_> !ot > Kingen
[22:54] <ikonia> q0: ok, so how are you trying to do this
[22:55] <q0> I tried the iptables without any success
[22:55] <Kingen> ikonia: << ios << a <<  delete; or what do you want to do with your life ?
[22:55] <Kingen> :)
[22:55] <Glycan> ot!
[22:55] <Glycan> !ot
[22:56] <ikonia> Kingen: final reminder, this channel is for ubuntu support discussion only
[22:56] <q0> with masquerade
[22:56] <ikonia> q0: so you're trying to setup forward/masqurade rules with iptables
[22:56] <q0> yes
[22:56] <ikonia> q0: ok, so what's the rule you've setup
[22:56] <ikonia> (as in show me the exact iptable rule)
[22:57] <delinquentme> is the path at $ which java ... a good path to use to set JAVA_HOME ?
[22:57] <ikonia> delinquentme: no
[22:57] <ikonia> delinquentme: thats the binary path
[22:57] <ikonia> where you put JAVA_HOME is up to you
[22:58] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, aarh if you stick to a std jdk install
[22:58] <BarnabasDK> not quite true is it?
[22:58] <ikonia> what ?
[22:59] <BlueEagle> q0: If you do not want to do iptables by hand, there are a lot of alternatives. If you have not considered alternatives already, might I suggest Shorewall? It is my go-to place for both firewall and routing within my home network. There are of course also other alternatives.
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> the jdks and jres install in /usr/lib/jvm
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> so
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> java home is
[22:59] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: which java is where the binary is - the binary is not the same as the classpath
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/<jvm>
[22:59] <ikonia> no
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> yes
[22:59] <BarnabasDK> path set to
[22:59] <ikonia> JAVA_HOME is not the class path
[22:59] <ikonia> the class path is not where the binary is
[23:00] <ikonia> JAVA_HOME should be before the binary
[23:00] <ikonia> CLASS_PATH should be wherer the classes are
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> export ${JAVA_HOME}/bin
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> and you are flying
[23:00] <ikonia> so blindly putting it where "which java" is is wrong
[23:00] <BarnabasDK> agree with that
[23:00] <Glycan> flying?
[23:00] <q0> thank you BlueEagle ! Just to clarify it though ikonia , ubuntu connects to wlan0 and i try to share it with eth0 to unix system, "sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -j MASQUERADE" somehow did not work. I also set the ip.forwarding 1
[23:01] <ikonia> q0: have you got iptables forwarding enabled at the kernel level
[23:01] <ikonia> eg: in the sysctl or pro
[23:01] <q0> yes
[23:01] <ikonia> proc
[23:01] <BarnabasDK> I assume the call is for using java / javac from the command line
[23:01] <ikonia> q0: that is not a valid iptables rule
[23:01] <BarnabasDK> or "shell"
[23:02] <BarnabasDK> bash
[23:02] <ikonia> q0: you're missing source, destination, input, etc
[23:02] <Guest94242> hi, uh, my window manager has frozen, i managed to ctrl+alt+t a terminal and connect to irssi (right now), but i cant click anything with my mouse lol. is there a way to restart the window manager from terminal without rebooting? i dont want to lose all my work
[23:03] <q0> I had a feeling i was missing something lol. I'll read the manpage and figure it out, if I can't shorewall looks nice
[23:04] <Judy18>  You can find funny videos here. http://bit.ly/1gAh6Jy
[23:04] <Guest94242> anyone? :'(
[23:05] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, java home is in the folder above the bin folder
[23:05] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: not always, as I've said typing which java and setting java_home blindly is wrong
[23:05] <ikonia> if you want to do that - that's fine,
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> if you do a std openjdk install on a ubuntu server or desktop it is always like that
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> via apt
[23:06] <dioioib> Guest94242: can you drop to a terminal session?
[23:06] <ikonia> you don't know what he's done, and based on his use of extenral packages for other components earlier - it is not a safe assumption
[23:06] <ikonia> so again - blindly doing it is wrong
[23:06] <ikonia> I'm not sure what you're trying to prove / argue with this
[23:06] <BarnabasDK> nore me you?
[23:07] <ikonia> BarnabasDK: so stop then
[23:07] <BarnabasDK> ikonia, have it your way
[23:08] <adam_____> ikonia: the guys on the Android irc say it has to be pre generated on the server side as jpeg doesn't contain thumbnail data
[23:08] <ikonia> adam_____: ok, so you need an application to generate thumbnails, such as image magic
[23:09] <ikonia> imagemagik too
[23:09] <hikenboot> guys, thanks for the help that was great I changed it around just a little so now I have a text file with each line says chmod 640 director/path/to/some/file as an example I would like to actually execute each line of text as a command how do I get it to take the each line and instead of just printing text, executing it?
[23:10] <hikenboot> never mind figured it out...make it a #/bin/bash!
[23:11] <delinquentme> >_< BarnabasDK
[23:12] <kieppie> ?countdown
[23:13] <locodir-user> is trusty out of beta now ?
[23:13] <ikonia> it's not released yet
[23:14] <ikonia> any time in the next 24 hours
[23:14] <locodir-user> Ooo, Wonder how much stuff is going to break xD
[23:14] <OerHeks> kieppie, count down in #ubuntu-release-party
[23:14] <kieppie> ikonia: cheers - been looking for the countdown timer as per previous releases. already 17th here in NZ
[23:14] <Guest8112> hi
[23:14] <kieppie> cheers
[23:15] <Guest8112> Can i ask you all one question about ubuntu?
[23:16] <ikonia> thats what the channel is here for
[23:16] <AnthonyUK> you can't ask me as I dont know much about ubuntu
[23:17] <Guest8112> whats is the best way for getting flash working on youtube, gnash?
[23:17] <ikonia> use the html5 version of youtube
[23:17] <zengr> ikonia: Not sure but I tried this too, it still doesn't work. http://pastebin.com/Wb0Cqdf1
[23:17] <ikonia> depending on flash is a waste as it's a dead product
[23:17] <zengr> ikonia: I am running it under sudo
[23:17] <zengr> i mean root
[23:18] <ikonia> zengr: root ? the root account is locked
[23:18] <ikonia> zengr: what's the crontab line you are calling this from
[23:18] <k1l_> zengr: ubuntu doesnt support the raspberry arm cpu
[23:18] <ikonia> k1l_: didn't spot tht
[23:18] <ikonia> it's not ubuntu then
[23:19] <semw> Help! :(. Computer froze half-way through a distro upgrade (ubuntu 13.10->14.04).  No response, even to ctrl-alt-F1 etc. BUT - I can ssh into it from my laptop just fine. any suggestions on how to use ssh access to rescue this?
[23:20] <Guest8112> oke in lamers langues i want to see youtube on linux what to do?
[23:20] <ikonia> Guest8112: use the html5 version of youtube
[23:20] <kostkon> Guest8112: install flash
[23:20] <Guest8112> html5 explain please?
[23:21] <ikonia> Guest8112: google html5 youtube
[23:21] <ikonia> Guest8112: you enable it in the browser
[23:21] <Guest8112> oke i will thx
[23:29] <Feel> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsjX1xymU0
[23:34] <Jake0720> Anything interesting to do on Ubuntu without internet connection?
[23:35] <tiglionabbit> I’m trying to use ubuntu in virtualbox on a mac but it is extremely slow. The fade-in/out effects especially kill it.  I guess hardware graphics acceleration is not working?  How can I get it working?  Or can I disable these special effects?
[23:39] <Agamanon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZn9xG0CLN4
[23:42] <GrimaceXL> Hey guys quick question for ya, trying to mount a samba share using fstab and one of my shares works fine... the other causes a disconnected from Plymouth error on boot
[23:43] <daftykins> does it still mount?
[23:43] <GrimaceXL> both are hosted by my router in its usb ports, one its ext3 and the other is NTFS
[23:43] <GrimaceXL> yes they do
[23:44] <daftykins> ooh-err
[23:44] <GrimaceXL> when using smbmount they work fine
[23:44] <daftykins> smbclient?
[23:44] <GrimaceXL> come again?
[23:44] <cuddylier> Is it possible to put nginx on a box already with apache on it just to test?
[23:45] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: nm, well anyway plymouth is just the boot logo i thought, so surely it's not doing any harm?
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> no but it doesnt mount
[23:45] <qin> Jake0720: clear; while [ 1 ]; do echo $RANDOM; sleep 2; done
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> oic what you were asking
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> it doesnt mount unless i envoke it manually
[23:45] <daftykins> so mount -a?
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> the entry in fstab doesnt work
[23:45] <GrimaceXL> ill try that one sec
[23:46] <daftykins> ok, what you want to do is unmount it then run "mount -a" to see in "dmesg | tail" what's going wrong
[23:46] <GrimaceXL> ok willdo
[23:46] <GrimaceXL> think i found it
[23:46] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: you could pastebin the fstab entries for us too to take a look
[23:47] <GrimaceXL> i found a syntax error so im going to fix that 1st and see if it is still a problem
[23:49] <davidrsmorris> I want to count how many times each date appears in a file, thus ending with a list of dates in a range with numbers of occurrences of an event per day.  What would be the best way of doing that?
[23:49] <cuddylier> Is it possible to put nginx on a box already with apache on it just to test?
[23:50] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: sounds like a plan
[23:50] <daftykins> cuddylier: i'd bet as default it'd try and override port 80, so maybe if you stopped apache first, installed nginx, reconfigured that, then restarted apache...
[23:50] <daftykins> cuddylier: but really it's asking for trouble if it's a production box
[23:51] <cuddylier> Yeah, thing is I want to test nginx alongside apache on the production box under the load it's under
[23:51] <cuddylier> To test to see if it's really that much more efficient
[23:51] <daftykins> are you having memory consumption issues?
[23:51] <cuddylier> No
[23:51] <cuddylier> Just issues with control panel software I use being very slow
[23:52] <cuddylier> While other users of the software have no issues in the same location with lots of users using it being fast.
[23:52] <cuddylier> It could take maybe 4-5 seconds to change page whereas on other sites it's maybe 1 second max
[23:52] <daftykins> so you're in the minority?
[23:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: have you looked in the apache access and error logs to see what it's doing ?
[23:52] <cuddylier> Not in detail before no
[23:52] <cuddylier> Just in /var/logs?
[23:52] <ikonia> cuddylier: have you looked at the load on the apache process against the ammount of forked processes
[23:53] <daftykins> ikonia's idea makes more sense than throwing the whole web server out
[23:53] <ikonia> cuddylier: ok, so you have no idea the current state - yet you want to test if something else is better
[23:53] <ikonia> basically you shouldn't be running a web server
[23:53] <cuddylier> Yeah, I didn't think there was anyway to see what apache was doing.
[23:53] <cuddylier> I'm quite nooby yes.
[23:53] <GrimaceXL> @daftykins http://pastebin.com/Tip27sfe my stab
[23:53] <GrimaceXL> *fstab
[23:53] <cuddylier> Also I wasn't sure if a SSD would make all that much more difference on top of nginx
[23:53] <daftykins> stab at fstab :D
[23:54] <GrimaceXL> when mount -a i get "[mntent]: line 13 in /etc/fstab is bad mount error(16): Device or resource busy Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs)"
[23:54] <daftykins> GrimaceXL: i see a $ at the end of the file instead of a second 0
[23:55] <GrimaceXL> ill be honest i dont under stand the syntax of the fstab file and just copy pasta'd somebody elses work lol
[23:55] <GrimaceXL> thanks
[23:55] <daftykins> D:
[23:55] <daftykins> also IPs are always far better than hostnames
[23:55] <riceandbeans> your web site makes mention of v14 being out, but no download availability, what's up with thatL
[23:56] <GrimaceXL> oh yeah i meant to use the ip as well since its the router and will always be static lol
[23:56] <bigboystyx02> hello
[23:56] <GrimaceXL> thanks ive fixed it and waiting for the box to reboot
[23:56] <daftykins> riceandbeans: where do you see release?
[23:57] <riceandbeans> the main page
[23:57] <bigboystyx02> anybody have any ideas why mdadm is slow unless I put the cpu under a load???
[23:57] <riceandbeans> though fridge says you intend to release tomorrow
[23:57] <riceandbeans> I don't like conflicting information
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: the front page of ubuntu.com refers to openstack to me
[23:57] <GrimaceXL> im making a ubuntu server seedbox that has sickbeard and sabnzbd and it worked great when the hdd's were local, but where im putting it there's no room for hdds to be plugged in locally so im hosting the drives on my router
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: it doesn't say anything about being released
[23:57] <daftykins> riceandbeans: and i don't like people that don't read :)
[23:57] <C6R> davidrsmorris man sort man uniq
[23:58] <riceandbeans> daftykins: riddle me this, what raid levels will the ubuntu installer support out of the box?
[23:58] <riceandbeans> software raid
[23:58] <daftykins> no idea
[23:58] <riceandbeans> what filesystems will 14 support out of the box
[23:58] <daftykins> no idea
[23:58] <riceandbeans> and what type of support for ZFS
[23:59] <daftykins> no idea
[23:59] <riceandbeans> is there any documentation?
[23:59] <daftykins> !documentation
[23:59] <riceandbeans> right, so there's no docs
[23:59]  * TehCaptain cracks a beer because this is funny
[23:59] <GrimaceXL> lol
[23:59] <daftykins> riceandbeans: there'll be release notes if you actually look them up
[23:59] <ikonia> riceandbeans: zfs is not available
[23:59] <riceandbeans> a 6 year old wiki doesn't matter to me
[23:59] <riceandbeans> ikonia: that's a bold faced lie
[23:59] <GrimaceXL> *autism intensifies*
[23:59] <riceandbeans> ikonia: FUSE has been around for some time to support it
[23:59] <ikonia> riceandbeans: err no, it's not
[23:59]  * TehCaptain hopes the driver for his commodore 1541 drive finally made it in