| amigamagic | how can I download the sources for xfdesktop package? | 00:25 |
|---|---|---|
| amigamagic | I would like to try to see if I'm able to understand something in the code (related to the bug I posted on launchpad) | 00:25 |
| knome | sudo apt-get source xfdesktop4 | 00:26 |
| amigamagic | ok thanks :) | 00:27 |
| bluesabre | except, don't use sudo | 00:41 |
| bluesabre | otherwise you'll have root permissioned source files | 00:41 |
| amigamagic | ok, it makes sense... thanks! | 00:42 |
| jhenke | good morning | 06:45 |
| elfy | good day jhenke | 06:46 |
| knome | i've prepared the release announcement and notes; both are at their final places. please do not edit the announcement without a permission from the team on this channel, even with typo fixes. feel free to do typo fixes to the notes, for all other changes, ask the team. | 10:31 |
| amigamagic | knome, with xubuntu 14.04 I noticed that in a vmware player machine, light-locker often completely freezes the machine when it should lock the screen and I can't do anything else apart reset the vm. Being that on a real machine I didn't experienced such an issue so it's not critical, but do you know something about this? | 10:41 |
| knome | no | 10:42 |
| amigamagic | can I install an alternative login manager to compensate in the virtual machine? | 10:46 |
| knome | yes | 10:49 |
| amigamagic | can you suggest me a good one that doesn't require many many dependencies like gdm? | 10:51 |
| knome | no | 10:52 |
| amigamagic | ok | 10:52 |
| elfy | knome: thanks - seen them both, replaced replacing with replaces to match the other one | 13:37 |
| knome | elfy, thanks | 13:39 |
| elfy | hi GridCube - if you want to know what needs it - then I'd like to see more love for upgrade testing | 13:40 |
| elfy | but if not almost anything will help | 13:40 |
| GridCube | elfy, if i get home early today i can try to do a 13.10 to 14.04 test, if you wan t i can try to upgrade this vm im using now too | 13:41 |
| elfy | and anyone else who answers can be given that info :) | 13:41 |
| * GridCube though i have a meeting a few decaminutes | 13:41 | |
| elfy | GridCube: upgrades I'm more wanting hardware if possible | 13:42 |
| elfy | GridCube: we have till tomorrow morning :) | 13:42 |
| GridCube | ok, elfy ill try and see if i can do it later tonight, | 13:42 |
| elfy | thanks :) | 13:42 |
| elfy | bbl | 13:46 |
| amigamagic | for my bug searching I just checked in here: xfdesktop-file-icon-manager.c:#define SAVE_DELAY 7000 | 14:55 |
| amigamagic | why you should wait 7 seconds before updating the icons?? | 14:55 |
| amigamagic | I will try to change that delay value to 1000 and recompile the package | 14:56 |
| amigamagic | It's strange, I changed that, recompiled the package, changed the /usr/bin/xfdesktop with my new compiled one and... After changing an icon position they will pass always 7 seconds to update the relative file in .config/xfce4/desktop | 15:18 |
| ochosi | ahoj everyone | 15:32 |
| ochosi | did i miss anything? :) | 15:32 |
| amigamagic | oooh, now it works! | 15:35 |
| amigamagic | the compiled version was placed not in /usr/bin but in /usr/local/bin... Why those two dirs for binary files? | 15:36 |
| amigamagic | now when I move an icon its position is saved after 1 second, not anymore after 7 seconds... :) | 15:37 |
| ochosi | depends on what prefix you set when compiling | 15:37 |
| ochosi | by default stuff you compile by hand ends up in /usr/local | 15:37 |
| ochosi | so that it doesn't mess with your system | 15:38 |
| amigamagic | ochosi, ok, but before I replaced the binary file in /usr/bin and it didn't work | 15:38 |
| amigamagic | now I deleted the default one from /usr/bin | 15:38 |
| amigamagic | and when you run xfdesktop it will be taken from /usr/local/bin | 15:39 |
| amigamagic | that is when the "make install" have placed it | 15:39 |
| ochosi | you can use "./autogen.sh --prefix=/usr" to get it installed in the right place | 15:39 |
| ochosi | anyway, no need to install the desktop to run it | 15:39 |
| amigamagic | maybe /usr/bin/local has priority in the path over /usr/bin ? | 15:39 |
| ochosi | just kill it with 5 times "killall xfdesktop" | 15:40 |
| ochosi | and then run it from the build-dir with "./src/xfdesktop" | 15:40 |
| amigamagic | why 5 times? | 15:40 |
| ochosi | because it gets respawned 5 times by the session | 15:40 |
| amigamagic | ah ok, thanks for the info :) | 15:41 |
| ochosi | np | 15:43 |
| brainwash | no one complained about the 7 seconds delay so far | 15:56 |
| brainwash | so it has not been changed since 2006 | 15:57 |
| brainwash | ochosi: hey there | 15:59 |
| ochosi | brainwash: hey | 16:10 |
| ochosi | what up? | 16:10 |
| brainwash | fixing some bugs... nah, joking :) | 16:11 |
| ochosi | hehe | 16:12 |
| ochosi | preparing popcorn and comfy chair to enjoy release day instead maybe? :) | 16:12 |
| amigamagic | hey guys I have to do a dist-upgrade tomorrow even if I have the daily 14.04 ? | 16:14 |
| brainwash | dist-upgrade? or do you mean a release upgrade? | 16:15 |
| brainwash | you are already running 14.04, so not further steps needed | 16:16 |
| brainwash | no | 16:16 |
| amigamagic | don't know, I mean I should do something after the official release is released? | 16:16 |
| amigamagic | or I should not do nothing? | 16:16 |
| brainwash | nothing | 16:16 |
| amigamagic | ok, perfect, thanks :) | 16:17 |
| ochosi | brainwash: what's the latest news on the lid-suspend problem? | 16:19 |
| brainwash | ochosi: we need to make sure that the vt switch triggered by light-locker happens on resume I think | 16:24 |
| brainwash | like it usually does when activated via systemd/dbus | 16:25 |
| brainwash | or we need to tell xfpm or light-locker or someone to restore the display status | 16:26 |
| ochosi | right | 16:26 |
| ochosi | yeah, it's a bit tricky to decide where to actually fix that... | 16:27 |
| ochosi | i guess doing the display switch later would be one option | 16:27 |
| amigamagic | on a vmware machine light-locker sometimes will completely freeze the guest system (when it wanted to lock the screen). I don't have experienced this bug on a real machine. Maybe it's related to that suspend problem? | 16:27 |
| ochosi | bbl | 16:27 |
| brainwash | amigamagic: don't think it's related | 16:28 |
| amigamagic | ok, for now I disabled it on the vmware machine... I use that virtual environment to test new distro and try to check bugs in some packages. | 16:30 |
| brainwash | does it freeze if you switch to the greeter with "dm-tool switch-to-greeter"? | 16:32 |
| amigamagic | I cannot check now because I'm at work... When I come back at home (I have the vmx in my personal notebook) I will check, thanks! | 16:35 |
| brainwash | alright | 16:35 |
| amigamagic | ah, I switched on xubuntu 14.04 on my work machine... It's very nice :) | 16:35 |
| forestpiskie | wb ochosi | 16:51 |
| knome | bug 1302462 | 17:49 |
| ubottu | bug 1302462 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "network icon disappeared in xubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302462 | 17:49 |
| knome | shouldn't that be fixed for new installations? | 17:49 |
| elfy | it is on everything I have seen - both vm and hardware | 17:50 |
| knome | the bug or the indicator? :P | 17:50 |
| elfy | I have seen the future as well as the indicator | 17:50 |
| knome | lol | 17:51 |
| knome | is elfy slowly cracking up and becoming insane? | 17:51 |
| elfy | is? | 17:51 |
| elfy | :p | 17:51 |
| knome | heh | 17:51 |
| knome | we should close that bug | 17:51 |
| knome | but what's the right way to fix the situation | 17:51 |
| brainwash | maybe some update fixed it already | 17:52 |
| elfy | well ... I we could always check it after release as "Doesn't anyone use Xubuntu with password-protected wifi passwords?" | 17:52 |
| elfy | is what they are saying on -users | 17:53 |
| elfy | no idea what a password protected wifi password is tbh | 17:53 |
| knome | ;) | 17:56 |
| lderan | ah users :) | 17:59 |
| * knome senses an ironic tone on lderan's comment, or maybe it's just me... | 17:59 | |
| lderan | nah no irony | 18:00 |
| elfy | I thought that was because lderan came from somewhere near the Black Country where ironyworks were common | 18:00 |
| knome | hrh, installing last windows xp updates, then turning that virtual machine to wan-networkless state | 18:01 |
| lderan | elfy, the irony is strong in these parts, it runs deep :P | 18:01 |
| elfy | lol - twice :p | 18:03 |
| elfy | that's the latest spin covered and I think it's being respun | 18:03 |
| knome | yep | 18:04 |
| knome | of course | 18:04 |
| knome | ;) | 18:04 |
| elfy | knome: when are you about tomorrow? | 18:04 |
| knome | should be most of the day | 18:04 |
| knome | until i have had enough beer and not able to type | 18:04 |
| elfy | I should be about more or less all day till 15:00 UTC ish then dribs and drabs for a couple of hours | 18:05 |
| knome | mhm | 18:05 |
| knome | good | 18:05 |
| knome | not much to *do* really, but nice to have people around | 18:05 |
| elfy | yea | 18:06 |
| knome | heh | 18:06 |
| knome | "Installing Windows XP End of Support Notification)" | 18:06 |
| knome | -) | 18:06 |
| elfy | ha ha ha | 18:06 |
| knome | great... is it going to bugger me on every boot now | 18:07 |
| elfy | and every 2 hours once logged in | 18:07 |
| knome | yep... | 18:07 |
| knome | i'll make sure i remove that "update" if it does that | 18:08 |
| elfy | so would I :) | 18:08 |
| brainwash | it's an ancient OS :/ | 18:09 |
| brainwash | 2001 | 18:09 |
| knome | works for my purposes | 18:10 |
| brainwash | hard to believe that my xp installation from 2002 still runs | 18:12 |
| brainwash | but we need to fix the black screen problem in xubuntu now | 18:13 |
| brainwash | don't feel like telling people to not use light-locker | 18:14 |
| knome | so... is there an idea who are affected by it? | 18:15 |
| elfy | which black screen problem? | 18:15 |
| brainwash | I'm not affected :) | 18:16 |
| elfy | the power one or a different one? | 18:17 |
| brainwash | power one | 18:17 |
| knome | elfy, that | 18:17 |
| elfy | don't tell then to not use light-locker - tell them not to suspend with lid close | 18:17 |
| knome | tell them to backup data and give us debug info if they are affected :P | 18:18 |
| brainwash | elfy: can you bind "xset dpms force on" to some kb shortcut and trigger it once the screen turns black? | 18:18 |
| elfy | knome: no idea how many are affected - not as many now as on Friday ;) | 18:18 |
| knome | heh | 18:18 |
| knome | yeah, and also were thinking about a common nominator | 18:18 |
| elfy | brainwash: later I will look | 18:18 |
| elfy | knome: a lid to close? :p | 18:19 |
| brainwash | also do a test run after executing "sudo stop acpid" | 18:19 |
| knome | elfy, probably not all laptops... | 18:19 |
| elfy | brainwash: I doubt if I'll get time to do much fiddling about - not many people are testing what actually needs testing now | 18:20 |
| * elfy sends sharp pointed comment into the channel :p | 18:20 | |
| brainwash | there is a work around, running xrandr seems to restore the display status | 18:21 |
| brainwash | stated by one reporter | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: tumblerd hanging again :/ | 18:21 |
| ali1234 | i think we need a watchdog for it | 18:22 |
| ochosi | ali1234: meh :/ | 18:22 |
| ochosi | brainwash: i tried that once, didn't work for me. also the dpms state of the session seemed ok when i queried it | 18:22 |
| ochosi | ali1234: any idea why it's hanging? | 18:23 |
| ochosi | i really wonder, it used to be quite stable a while back | 18:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: so the backlight was completely off, right? | 18:23 |
| ochosi | brainwash: nope, just blanked | 18:23 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: attempting to thumbnail corrupt files i assume | 18:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: ah! mmh | 18:23 |
| brainwash | ochosi: did you try to kill light-locker? | 18:24 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, ofc, that didn't do anything | 18:31 |
| ochosi | i'll hopefully have a bit of time to look into things again tomorrow | 18:32 |
| ochosi | just returned a few hours ago, so still a bit out of the loop | 18:32 |
| ochosi | ali1234: what kind of watchdog did you have in mind? | 18:32 |
| ali1234 | one that monitors it and kills it when it hangs | 18:32 |
| ali1234 | how does it generate the thumbnails? | 18:32 |
| ochosi | yeah, but an extra service just for that? | 18:34 |
| ochosi | or just let xfce4-session watch it? | 18:34 |
| ali1234 | i wasn't entirely serious | 18:34 |
| ochosi | right :) | 18:35 |
| ali1234 | it should gracefully handle when whatever library it uses fails though | 18:35 |
| knome | maybe we can do something in a PPA that watches it and saves meaningful data | 18:35 |
| ochosi | any clue which library is mainly responsible? | 18:35 |
| knome | or even pops up a window saying "tumblrd hanged up, send details on what you were doing and logs XYZ to url A" | 18:36 |
| zequence | Could anyone explain to me how you fixed the ibus thing? | 18:46 |
| zequence | Seems we still have it - since none of us have been looking closely enough on this issue. I haven't seen any weirdness myself, so i've missed it completely | 18:46 |
| knome | upgrade or clean install? | 18:57 |
| elfy | knome: clean install - I found the bug on their iso today | 19:02 |
| zequence | yep, not too worried about upgrades right now | 19:03 |
| elfy | and I got completely confused on what we did in the end - and really didn't want to confuse zequence :) | 19:03 |
| zequence | You dropped ibus from seeds. But, I haven't checked all changes in -default-settings. Doesn't seem like there could be any other changes? Unless you also added something else | 19:04 |
| mzr | ibus anywhere near fixed yet? | 19:27 |
| Unit193 | Not on the ISO if that counts. | 19:27 |
| mzr | better than the alternative I guess, is the next one due summer or fall? | 19:28 |
| elfy | Unit193: it counts enough for me | 19:31 |
| knome | zequence, just dropping it should be enough. but it still affects upgrade systems, because ibus isn't purged from those automatically | 20:27 |
| zequence | knome: Yep. We have another problem. A gnome type power indicator applet. Trying to figure out what it is called | 20:28 |
| zequence | We have two power applets. one XFCE, and one Gnome (I assume) - didn't have this on the last build | 20:28 |
| knome | zequence, do you have it on new systems? | 20:29 |
| Unit193 | indicator-power perhaps? | 20:29 |
| zequence | knome: New systems? It's a fresh install of the latest ISO | 20:29 |
| zequence | Unit193: Thanks. Will check | 20:29 |
| knome | zequence, yeah, i mean fresh installs | 20:29 |
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| zequence | Ah, so xfce-power-manager has it's own applet. I don't see the point in using indicator-power in that case | 20:31 |
| zequence | let me try | 20:31 |
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| brainwash | so why do you include indicator-power? | 20:31 |
| zequence | i just copied what you have | 20:32 |
| zequence | Your's is set to not show by default | 20:32 |
| zequence | You have it in your seeds as well | 20:32 |
| brainwash | we hide xfce4-power-manager's tray icon | 20:33 |
| brainwash | why didn't you notice that earlier? :P | 20:33 |
| brainwash | final release is tomorrow =S | 20:34 |
| zequence | i didn't have both on the last build | 20:34 |
| zequence | same seed | 20:34 |
| zequence | you have both too, though | 20:34 |
| zequence | removing indicator-power fixed it. It can't do much anyway | 20:34 |
| zequence | just show power in the indicator tray, but you can't go into settings with it, as settings for it doesn't exist | 20:35 |
| brainwash | only if you upgrade xubuntu and there is an existing xfpm user config | 20:35 |
| zequence | brainwash: Check your seeds | 20:35 |
| zequence | it's there | 20:35 |
| brainwash | it should | 20:35 |
| Unit193 | zequence: Yeah, may as well drop it at this point. | 20:36 |
| zequence | No reason to have both IMO | 20:36 |
| brainwash | I mean we hide the xfpm tray icon by default for new installation / new user accounts | 20:36 |
| brainwash | and indicator-power opens xfpm | 20:37 |
| zequence | it doesn't open anything for me | 20:37 |
| zequence | but, xfce power manager seems to work fine | 20:37 |
| brainwash | oh, I did not test it, because -power is not visible on desktop pcs | 20:38 |
| zequence | I did miss the ibus bug, which bugs me a lot | 20:38 |
| brainwash | it's not a bug actually | 20:39 |
| brainwash | not according to the ibus dev :) | 20:39 |
| zequence | Could be a lightdm bug then.. | 20:39 |
| zequence | or, something that only some of us who use it have | 20:39 |
| brainwash | no, ibus only supports a limit set of keyboard layouts and falls back to "us" | 20:40 |
| zequence | must be very limited then.. | 20:40 |
| brainwash | usually gnome-settings-daemon takes care of this | 20:41 |
| brainwash | which one is missing? | 20:41 |
| zequence | swedish | 20:42 |
| zequence | But, elfy had all but US missing | 20:42 |
| brainwash | simple "gb" is missing | 20:42 |
| brainwash | so yeah, dropping it seems to be the only solution right now | 20:44 |
| brainwash | no time for custom patches or some ibus integration into Xfce | 20:45 |
| ochosi | zequence: problem is that indicator-power only got patched for xubuntu | 20:45 |
| ochosi | it checks the session name and then decides what dialg to open | 20:46 |
| brainwash | what about xfce? | 20:46 |
| ochosi | support for ubuntustudio would be trviial to add though | 20:46 |
| ochosi | gah, my internet is fading | 20:46 |
| ochosi | bbiab | 20:46 |
| zequence | ochosi: Ok. well, I feel pretty happy about xfce-power-manager as is. What's the upside with indicator-power? | 20:47 |
| brainwash | it's an indicator :) | 20:48 |
| elfy | zequence: I think that in future - at least while I'm QA lead for us - I will try to keep you at least informed of things affecting us that might affect you too | 20:48 |
| zequence | elfy: The fault is my own, not checking bug reports well enough | 20:49 |
| zequence | Lesson learned | 20:49 |
| elfy | even so - I'll still do it :) | 20:49 |
| zequence | Thanks elfy. Much appreciated | 20:50 |
| knome | elfy, does that mean you are considering to continue as the QA lead further than tomorrow? ;) | 20:50 |
| elfy | knome: that is entirely in the lap of the gods | 20:50 |
| knome | heh | 20:50 |
| elfy | and the gods will be checking to see how many people in -team manage to get on the tracker ;) | 20:50 |
| knome | hr hrr | 20:50 |
| knome | we'll i've been making appearances lately! | 20:51 |
| elfy | :) | 20:51 |
| Unit193 | I have too, though knome removed all mine. :D | 20:51 |
| ochosi | zequence: main advantage is that you get only one indicator for multiple devices and that it's more consistent with the other indicators (right-click vs. left-click menus) | 20:51 |
| elfy | don't think I didn't notice knome :D | 20:51 |
| zequence | ochosi: Ok. Something to keep in mind for the next release then :) | 20:52 |
| knome | ochosi, hey :) | 20:52 |
| ochosi | zequence: this is what you'll want to modify slightly: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-power/trunk.14.04/revision/222 | 20:52 |
| ochosi | if you need help with a merge-request, let me know | 20:53 |
| ochosi | imo it'd be useful no matter whether you ship indicator-power by default or not | 20:53 |
| ochosi | cause it means it'll work as expected in studio for those who want to use it | 20:53 |
| ochosi | knome: hey there :) | 20:53 |
| ochosi | came back right on time for the release ;) | 20:53 |
| knome | yep! | 20:53 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: Can't you expand the find in path to fall back to xfpm? | 20:54 |
| elfy | hi ochosi - welcome back :) | 20:56 |
| ochosi | thanks elfy | 20:57 |
| ochosi | Unit193: what where? | 20:57 |
| knome | elfy, we should probably mention the workaround for the black screen bug in the announcements/notes | 21:01 |
| elfy | on it | 21:02 |
| knome | cheers | 21:02 |
| elfy | DON'T SUSPEND BY CLOSING THE LID !!! | 21:02 |
| knome | lol | 21:02 |
| knome | and, | 21:02 |
| elfy | will that do? | 21:02 |
| knome | "if you do..." | 21:02 |
| zequence | ochosi: Thanks. I'm dropping the indicator for this release, and not sure how we will do for the next one. We're probably going to add a plugin in ubiquity letting users install which ever DE they want, and if we have our own - it might turn out to be hardcore minimalistic. | 21:03 |
| ochosi | zequence: sure, sounds like a good choice | 21:05 |
| ochosi | Unit193: in case you meant indicator-power to fall back to xfpm, i guess ubuntu-desktop folks wouldn't be too happy about that | 21:10 |
| Unit193 | ochosi: That's silly of them, it already falls back from unity-c-c to gnome-c-c, may as well add in xfpm too IMNSHO. | 21:11 |
| Unit193 | It'd be using it as a last resort, not first choice. | 21:12 |
| ochosi | yeah, i just implemented xfpm-settings though the way -sound supports pavucontrol | 21:12 |
| elfy | minds gone blank - how do I restart lightdm ? lightdm restart ? | 21:19 |
| knome | sudo service lightdm restart | 21:19 |
| elfy | thanks - long day :) | 21:19 |
| elfy | knome: bit of a long workround when written ... | 21:24 |
| knome | elfy, where is it? | 21:25 |
| elfy | on mousepad atm :p | 21:26 |
| knome | :P | 21:26 |
| knome | elfy, you could drop it to http://pad.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu1404Final for collaborative editing | 21:27 |
| knome | (even if that is mostly a placeholder now) | 21:27 |
| elfy | knome: {{{ is pointless - this one is for blog | 21:28 |
| elfy | release notes says 'see release announcement for ..." | 21:29 |
| elfy | I've done https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu | 21:29 |
| knome | i can't see that? | 21:30 |
| elfy | though I guess we *could* have it in both places ... it is a bit of a big issue | 21:30 |
| elfy | known issues - XFCE Power Manager ... | 21:30 |
| knome | oh | 21:30 |
| pleia2 | knome: ok, I answered your questions in the doc | 21:30 |
| knome | elfy, i think it should be the other way around.. | 21:30 |
| elfy | ok | 21:30 |
| knome | elfy, "see notes for details" | 21:30 |
| elfy | ack | 21:31 |
| elfy | knome: check pad please | 21:34 |
| elfy | done announcement | 21:34 |
| * knome looks | 21:35 | |
| knome | taking over | 21:35 |
| knome | saved another draft | 21:36 |
| knome | leaving edit page | 21:36 |
| elfy | better - thanks | 21:36 |
| pleia2 | we need a picture, like our tahr | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | and a screenshot! | 21:38 |
| knome | for what? | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | the blog post | 21:38 |
| knome | aha | 21:38 |
| pleia2 | I am previewing it | 21:38 |
| knome | elfy, really editing something on the wiki? | 21:39 |
| elfy | I was yes | 21:39 |
| knome | ok | 21:39 |
| elfy | but now you've cut the pad lol | 21:39 |
| knome | yep ;) | 21:39 |
| knome | i have it on my clipboard | 21:40 |
| elfy | edit cancelled | 21:40 |
| elfy | but I was about to fiddle on pad when you cut it | 21:40 |
| knome | done | 21:40 |
| knome | heh, okay | 21:40 |
| knome | edited and saved wiki now, feel free to fiddle there | 21:40 |
| knome | i note we're being very verbose :) | 21:41 |
| elfy | move xrandr to the beginning | 21:41 |
| knome | but i think that's okay | 21:41 |
| knome | yeah, i was thinking about that... | 21:41 |
| elfy | knome: well there is that - but then sometimes people need to be led to the water | 21:41 |
| knome | i think we could point to the notes with the ibus instructions as well | 21:42 |
| knome | editing www | 21:42 |
| elfy | I am | 21:42 |
| knome | no i am :P | 21:43 |
| elfy | sorry - I was on wiki :) | 21:43 |
| knome | yep | 21:44 |
| knome | saved another revision of the announcement, and have left the edit page | 21:44 |
| elfy | I'm out of the wiki | 21:45 |
| knome | pleia2, tahr? :) | 21:45 |
| knome | ochosi, creative ideas on how to integrate the tahr into the release announcement? | 21:46 |
| pleia2 | tahr! | 21:46 |
| elfy | www pointer looks ok | 21:46 |
| ochosi | knome: you mean the one i drew for the slideshow? | 21:46 |
| knome | ochosi, that | 21:46 |
| pleia2 | yeah, ochosi's tahr | 21:46 |
| knome | ochosi, you know there is a slight problem with the right-bottom corner... | 21:46 |
| ochosi | aha? | 21:47 |
| knome | well, it's not pretty if you just land it on the page | 21:47 |
| knome | though we could land it with the blue bg | 21:47 |
| knome | that's a good idea. | 21:47 |
| * knome gets to it | 21:47 | |
| pleia2 | yeah | 21:47 |
| ochosi | cool | 21:49 |
| knome | btw, i broke image aligning in the last css update for our pleasure | 21:51 |
| * knome bows | 21:51 | |
| ochosi | congrats :) | 21:51 |
| knome | ok, the tahr is in right-aligned | 21:51 |
| pleia2 | pretty | 21:52 |
| knome | ochosi, too tall? | 21:52 |
| elfy | I'd say resize it so Highlights, changes was across the page | 21:52 |
| knome | elfy, heh, resize your browser window either way | 21:53 |
| elfy | you misunderstand me | 21:53 |
| knome | meanwhile, i'll upload a smaller version | 21:53 |
| knome | i don't | 21:53 |
| knome | i reproduced your issue | 21:53 |
| elfy | or you don't and are being knomey | 21:53 |
| elfy | :) | 21:53 |
| knome | but the workaround is to make the window narrower or wider | 21:54 |
| elfy | that makes no difference here | 21:54 |
| ochosi | knome: why not use the bg of the 14.04 wallpaper? | 21:54 |
| ochosi | knome: i mean for the tahr | 21:54 |
| knome | ochosi, meh :) | 21:54 |
| knome | ochosi, i can do that, but don't want the lines in | 21:54 |
| knome | so does it really make a difference? | 21:55 |
| ochosi | hm, the grey bar below the tahr is a bit boring btw | 21:55 |
| ochosi | could be flashier | 21:56 |
| ochosi | color-wise i mean | 21:56 |
| knome | well it's the generic image caption style | 21:56 |
| knome | not much i can do to change it for this post only | 21:56 |
| knome | except recreating the html | 21:56 |
| ochosi | ah ok | 21:56 |
| knome | but that's a bit meh | 21:56 |
| ochosi | yeah | 21:56 |
| knome | i think the size is good now | 21:56 |
| knome | but it still overlaps a bit with the heading | 21:56 |
| knome | we should make the text before that longer | 21:56 |
| ochosi | i'd just use the colors of the wall, without the lines | 21:56 |
| knome | ;) | 21:56 |
| knome | ok, i'll do that in a sec... | 21:57 |
| * elfy really doesn't like that | 21:57 | |
| knome | elfy, like what? | 21:57 |
| slickymaster | hey can someone provide me the link you're working on? | 21:57 |
| knome | slickymaster, log in at http://xubuntu.org/wp-admin/ | 21:57 |
| elfy | knome: the heading overlapping | 21:57 |
| knome | slickymaster, then go to http://xubuntu.org/?p=2394&preview=true | 21:57 |
| knome | elfy, working on it | 21:57 |
| slickymaster | I'm there | 21:58 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: do you have the svg of your tahr? | 21:59 |
| knome | pleia2, i do too | 21:59 |
| pleia2 | can someone send to me? | 22:00 |
| knome | pleia2, i'm just working on the recolor | 22:00 |
| knome | i can | 22:00 |
| pleia2 | ty | 22:00 |
| knome | should have mail | 22:01 |
| ochosi | pleia2: planning to use it somewhere? | 22:01 |
| pleia2 | ochosi: writing a blog post about where to find some trusty artwork | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | knome: yep, thanks | 22:02 |
| pleia2 | hmm, maybe we can put this up on static? | 22:02 |
| knome | yep.. which reminds me, i should make a nicer package of the brand stuff | 22:03 |
| knome | ochosi, is the tahr too small now? | 22:03 |
| slickymaster | it's a bit small knome | 22:04 |
| ochosi | knome: colors +1 | 22:04 |
| ochosi | knome: size, not sure, looks a bit restrained | 22:05 |
| ochosi | but i guess it's okay | 22:05 |
| elfy | colors are good - but I'll not say I don't like the position again | 22:05 |
| elfy | ochosi: personally I think if it's much bigger it takes over from what people are reading | 22:05 |
| pleia2 | knome: ok for me to just drop the png and svg here? http://static.xubuntu.org/14.04/ | 22:06 |
| pleia2 | or any other suggestions? | 22:06 |
| knome | i guess that's ok at least for now | 22:06 |
| * slickymaster thinks the former size would be preferable | 22:06 | |
| knome | we can think if we want a package with all the artwork, like the wallpaper... | 22:06 |
| elfy | pleia2: other suggestion - wait till Friday when no-one is running the show :p | 22:06 |
| pleia2 | elfy: wanted to get my post up for release tomorrow so folks can use the images | 22:07 |
| * elfy just notice the tags at the bottom of the page \o/ | 22:07 | |
| elfy | pleia2: and I was just jesting :) | 22:07 |
| pleia2 | :) | 22:08 |
| * elfy is off - night all - cya tomorrow at some point | 22:15 | |
| [1]amigamagic | I would like to check, in the command line console, if a certain function is called when I change the resolution | 22:19 |
| [1]amigamagic | maybe I should write something like: fprintf(stderr, "hello"), instead of printf("hello") ? | 22:21 |
| === [1]amigamagic is now known as amigamagic | ||
| amigamagic | YES! With fprintf(stderr, "abc function has been called"); it works!!! | 22:24 |
| amigamagic | Now I can see what function of the xfdesktop package is called when I change the resolution of the desktop | 22:24 |
| knome | can somebody close bug 1302462 with appropriate comments how to resolve the situation on systems where that happened? | 23:13 |
| ubottu | bug 1302462 in xfce4-panel (Ubuntu) "network icon disappeared in xubuntu" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1302462 | 23:13 |
| amigamagic | hey guys, I solved myself the 2 bugs I reported here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1307251 | 23:46 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1307251 in xfdesktop "xfdesktop doesn't save the arrangement of desktop icons after a resolution change" [Low,Confirmed] | 23:46 |
| amigamagic | what should I do now? I should create a patch? | 23:47 |
| slickymaster | yes amigamagic create the patch, upload it to the bug report as proposed fix | 23:48 |
| Logan_ | and if you're really quick, I might be able to sponsor it before tomorrow ;) | 23:48 |
| amigamagic | exactly how I should create this patch? It's the first time I do something like that... :) | 23:49 |
| amigamagic | I modded 3 files in the original xfdesktop package | 23:49 |
| Logan_ | http://jungels.net/articles/diff-patch-ten-minutes.html | 23:49 |
| amigamagic | ok, I will read it | 23:50 |
| knome | Logan_, not release-critical material, hold your horses | 23:52 |
| Logan_ | yeah, I guess it can wait for an SRU :P | 23:52 |
| Logan_ | knome: you know the release-critical thing only applies to seeded packages, right? | 23:53 |
| knome | Logan_, xfdesktop is seeded. | 23:53 |
| Logan_ | erm, okay, that's embarrassing | 23:54 |
| Logan_ | moving on | 23:54 |
| knome | ;) | 23:54 |
| Logan_ | I've been cramming for an exam all day | 23:57 |
| Logan_ | clearly my mind isn't in the right place | 23:58 |
| amigamagic | I should add a comment in the modded rows to make clear that those rows were modded for the patch fix? | 23:58 |
| knome | not in the code at least | 23:59 |
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