[00:00] <AlanBell> more than 6 lines in 12 seconds should trigger it
[00:00] <OerHeks> BitTorrent download info
[00:00] <OerHeks> tracker version: T-0.3.18 (BitTornado)
[00:00] <OerHeks> server time: 2014-04-16 23:58 UTC
[00:00] <OerHeks> info hash	torrent name	size	complete	downloading	downloaded	transferred
[00:00] <OerHeks> 0221caf96aa3cb94f0f58d458e78b0fc344ad8bf	dapper-dvd-amd64.iso	3.12GiB	4	0	0	0B
[00:00] <OerHeks> 9bdbbb49f085a2d15d96acfabff8310600314fe0	dapper-dvd-i386.iso	3.04GiB	1	0	0	0B
[00:00] <unopaste> OerHeks you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[00:00] <AlanBell> huh, I thought it was 30 seconds
[00:01] <alket> The picture above shows an example of product summaries. In the summary, you can see how many "mandatory", "run-once" and "optional" tests a product has, along with information how many of them have been run and how many of them have been failed (a red number in parenthesis).
[00:01] <alket> In addition, you can see how many non-critical (green bug icon) and critical bugs (red bug icon) have been found. Mousing over a bug loads a bug summary. Clicking the bug icon will load the corresponding bug on Launchpad.
[00:01] <alket> Finally, the first column provides you a link to the downloads and the last column shows the version/build in question.
[00:01] <alket> hah i had only three lines
[00:01] <alket> .
[00:01] <alket> ,
[00:01] <alket> ,
[00:01] <alket> ,
[00:01] <Riddell> alket: too slow!
[00:01] <OerHeks> :-)
[00:01] <alket> yeah, and too late to figure it out
[00:01] <valorie> poor unopaste, being trolled
[00:02] <alket> i thought i was 6 lines in 12 seconds
[00:02]  * valorie goes off to dinner
[00:02] <Riddell> valorie: plenty of image testing when you're done :)
[00:02] <AlanBell> unopaste: config channel #kubuntu supybot.plugins.AttackProtector.message.detection
[00:02] <unopaste> AlanBell: 6p12
[00:03] <AlanBell> code is here, I did a tiny little fork of it to support umode+q instead of kicks https://github.com/AlanBell/Supybot-plugins
[00:04] <AlanBell> patches are welcome, feel free to ban it if it gets annoying, or pester me about config changes etc
[00:04] <AlanBell> I am happy to give owner access to appropriate people if that would be useful
[00:05] <AlanBell> night all o/
[00:05] <OerHeks> Thanks AlanBell and goodnight
[01:22] <bkovacs> Can't wait till tommorow and the release of Kubuntu 14.04!. :)
[01:32] <Etriaph> Hey guys, trying to install Kubuntu 3.10 on a system that has only an HDMI port to connect to a monitor; when I boot from the CD, I get what looks like artifacting
[01:32] <Etriaph> Does anyone know how to get around this?
[01:34] <bkovacs> I wonder what time Kubuntu 14.04 will be released
[01:37] <valorie> bkovacs: when it's all done
[01:37] <valorie> everyone is scrambling to get every last kink ironed out before release
[01:37] <valorie> it is an LTS after all
[01:38] <Etriaph> Does anyone have any experience trying to install Kubuntu with HDMI video at all?
[01:38] <bkovacs> Can't wait til tommorrow :).
[01:42] <valorie> bkovacs: #ubuntu-release-party :-)
[01:44] <Etriaph> I can't find any information online about this at all, getting frustrated
[01:45] <valorie> !hdmi
[01:45] <valorie> hmmm
[01:46] <valorie> ubottu doesn't know either
[01:47] <Etriaph> I've found lots of information on how to configure it post-install, but the installer craps out
[01:47] <Etriaph> I get what looks like video artifacts at the bottom of the screen
[01:51] <valorie> Etriaph: can you run it as a live system?
[01:52] <valorie> from USB or DVD?
[01:52] <Etriaph> valorie: I burned the 13.10 ISO to a DVD, when I boot with it it says "Start Kubuntu", "Express Install (OEM)" and a disk check.. I tried "Start Kubuntu" and it loads from the disk, I get artifacts and it hangs
[01:53] <Etriaph> The display is mangled at the bottom of the screen
[01:54] <valorie> ok, that means that either the wrong driver or wrong kernel for you
[01:54] <Etriaph> Well it's a Gigabyte GeForce GTX 750
[01:54] <valorie> I guess I would wait a couple of days and try 14.04?
[01:54] <valorie> or even the beta2
[01:55] <Etriaph> Is there a beta ISO for 14.04 that will rollover to release?
[01:55] <Etriaph> ie., if I run the beta for 2 days and 14.04 is released, will I just continue to get updates for 14.04?
[01:57] <Etriaph> I'm grabbing the daily right now, we'll see what happens
[01:58] <valorie> cool
[01:59] <Etriaph> But do you know if, when 14.04 is live, the beta installation will become a 14.04 full installation?
[01:59] <Etriaph> I'm assuming yes, but I just don't want to have to install the OS all over again :)
[02:00] <valorie> right, after you update and upgrade
[02:00] <valorie> same same
[02:01] <valorie> I got the beta1, and am now on release
[02:02] <Etriaph> I bought a new PC and this is the first time I'm running video on HDMI
[02:02] <Etriaph> I don't want to have to switch back to DVI just to run Linux
[02:28] <dutchuss2016_> what dependencies does eamviewer have
[02:30] <dutchuss2016_> what dependenciesss does teamviewer have
[02:31] <saiarcot895> dutchuss2016_: what repo is it in?
[02:31] <dutchuss2016_> none i had to  get it off there wbsight
[02:31] <saiarcot895> dutchuss2016_: Did you install it?
[02:32] <saiarcot895> Any needed dependencies will be listed upon installation
[02:32] <dutchuss2016_> when i try to install it it says its missing dependencies and wont let me install it
[02:35] <saiarcot895> dutchuss2016: Through the software center or in terminal?
[02:42] <dutchuss2016> neeither i downloaded the .deb file and ran it with oapt packagee installer
[02:45] <dutchuss2016> whats he image pastebin  link
[02:49] <dutchuss2016> http://postimg.org/image/9e6erg70n/
[02:52] <saiarcot895> dutchuss2016: Open a Konsole, cd to the directory that contains the deb file, and run "dpkg -i teamviewer_linux_x64.deb"
[02:53] <saiarcot895> dutchuss2016: Also, because of changes in the structure of packages and architectures, I don't think you can use the x64 package.
[02:53] <saiarcot895> Based on the release notes, you have to use the 32-bit multiarch package
[03:06] <valorie> !info teamviewer
[03:51] <thefakeazned525> Omg
[03:51] <thefakeazned525> Is kubu 14.04 being released soon?
[03:51] <valorie> !release
[03:51] <valorie> basically, tomorrow
[03:51] <valorie> also: #ubuntu-release-party
[03:57] <thefakeazned525> Wait
[03:58] <thefakeazned525> Why in 14.04 is Firefox default?
[03:58] <thefakeazned525> I was expecting rekonq...
[04:02] <valorie> thefakeazned525: rekonq is now non-maintained
[04:02] <valorie> :(
[04:02] <valorie> there were really no good choices
[04:03] <thefakeazned525> Wait wat?? Rekonq isn't being developed anymore?
[04:03] <thefakeazned525> But that was the fastest WebKit browser I've used!
[04:04] <valorie> thefakeazned525: wanna step up?
[04:04] <valorie> I would love to put rekonq back on the ISO
[04:05] <thefakeazned525> Actually, I am planning to add PPAPI to rekonq, so it could be used with pepperflash...
[04:05] <thefakeazned525> However at the moment I can't work on it
[05:21] <Daskreech> Hi valorie
[05:26] <valorie> hi Daskreech, how are you?
[05:26] <Daskreech> valorie: Chill :)
[05:26] <valorie> cool
[05:27] <valorie> just reporting upgrade results on the tracker
[05:28] <Daskreech> I can't run 1404 :(
[05:28] <Daskreech> well I can :) I just have to use a 13.x kernel
[05:33] <valorie> I had to roll back to an earlier kernel for a day or two
[05:33] <valorie> but it was fixed quickly
[05:36] <Daskreech> valorie: none of the ones from the pre alpha till now have worked for me
[05:36] <Daskreech> Ah well I'll mix and match
[05:36] <valorie> odd, what happens?
[05:37] <Daskreech> ... Hmm?
[05:37] <Daskreech>  what do you mean?
[05:38] <valorie> why can't you use the kernel as provided?
[05:39] <dougiel> or compile with 13.10 config? guessing?
[06:49] <popi> Hi, got an unexpected problem more than once: kde didn't displayed anything on the locked screen except the background and no input appers to be taken.
[06:49] <popi> evry-time I restert ligtdm so kill evrything
[08:14] <Wick> Is the official release date today?
[08:17] <jacky> of what?
[08:17] <jacky> ;)
[08:17] <Wick> kubuntu 14.04
[08:17] <jacky> Yup
[08:17] <Wick> hooray
[08:18] <jacky> just stay connected to the internet and hang tight :)
[08:18] <Wick> i'm guessing it'll be another 12+ hours until the final images are spun though
[08:19] <jacky> yup
[08:20] <jacky> gotta test everything one last time
[08:58] <airsynth> HI! I heard Trusty will be available today. Am I right?
[09:00] <ikonia> airsynth: cirrect
[09:00] <ikonia> correct too
[09:35] <yossarianuk> any mirrors have it yet ....
[09:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:47] <yossarianuk> happy launch day !
[09:49] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk,  #ubuntu-release-party
[10:01] <rvraghav93> Hey I am not able to successfuly use my Huawei EC355 3g+ modem with Kubuntu. The problem I feel is that it is being wrongly detected as a wwan0 device rather than an usb0 device.
[10:01] <rvraghav93> It gets detected as a wireless modem. But Connection fails, despite correct API settings.
[10:03] <rvraghav93> *Access point I meant ( not API )
[10:07] <rvraghav93> Any help please ?
[10:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:23] <yossarianuk> still not out.......
[10:23] <yossarianuk> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/
[10:24] <Tm_T> yossarianuk: it's out when official announcement is out, no sooner
[10:25] <lordievader> yossarianuk: You can simply subscribe to the announce mailing list, then you'll get an email when it is released.
[10:27] <yossarianuk> lordievader: thanks in past releases I have found it on the mirrors sometimes hrs before the announcement.
[10:37] <yossarianuk> Today is Boomtime, the 34th day of Discord in the YOLD 3180 = release date !
[10:43] <yossarianuk> http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140417T1404&p0=136&msg=Ubuntu+14.04+LTS
[11:06] <Kaisen> Is the a good documentation how to cutomize kmail?
[11:43] <tubatuba> I need help please to install Ubuntu/Kubuntu/Lubuntu on Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102
[11:43] <tubatuba> link to instructions I can follow?
[11:45] <tubatuba> or is it not possible to install on Toshiba Chromebook CB30-102 ?
[12:00] <ezra-s> are we getting kubuntu 14.04 today too?
[12:02] <lordievader> ezra-s: Jup :)
[12:03] <ezra-s> great :o)
[12:06] <Exagone313> what are modifications in this kubuntu version ? (about kde and not ubuntu himself)
[12:08] <tsimpson> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/TrustyTahr/Beta2/Kubuntu shows what was new the Beta 2
[12:08] <Exagone313> why it's "beta 2" ?
[12:09] <tsimpson> because 14.04 isn't yet released
[12:09] <tsimpson> it will be some time today
[12:10] <Exagone313> ok
[12:43] <ThiagoAderaldo> Hey guys, Trusty Tahr was released?!
[12:45] <tsimpson> ThiagoAderaldo: not yet
[12:46] <ThiagoAderaldo> Ok! Please, remember to update the web site when it was released!
[12:47] <tsimpson> there are people hovering over the "big red button" as we speak
[12:51] <Kalidarn> i installed beta 2 weeks ago when it came out :D so now i don't have to do anything
[12:51] <Kalidarn> yay
[13:00] <mokush> Kalidarn: same here. but it took out all the fun from the 'upgrade day'
[13:00] <rvraghav93> Hey I am not able to successfuly use my Huawei EC355 3g+ modem with Kubuntu. The problem I feel is that it is being wrongly detected as a wwan0 device rather than an usb0 device.
[13:01] <rvraghav93> It gets detected as a wireless modem. But Connection fails, despite correct Access point and Phone number settings.
[13:01] <rvraghav93> BluesKaj: could you pl advice me over this ?
[13:02] <mokush> rvraghav93: i'm using something similar from orange, and sometimes have to unplug and plug-it again, util it shows the pin dialog
[13:04] <rvraghav93> mokush: pin dialog ? I tried unplugging and replugging for a lot of times ... even restarted it ;( I saw in some forum that It was an issue for ubuntu too. They said a kernel update made all the Huawei devices as wwan0 device ... And commenting out that section of the file and patching the kernel works .... I have that file ... but am not sure how to proceed further ! :(
[13:04] <rvraghav93> The make fails with some warning :/
[13:04] <patrick> when is 14.04 final released?
[13:05] <Guest28980> when is 14.04 final released?
[13:05] <Kalidarn> past__: later
[13:05] <Kalidarn> Guest28980: later
[13:05] <Kalidarn> i should put a channel bot in here that flags on 14.04
[13:05] <yossarianuk> its just gone 14:04 UK time...
[13:05] <Kalidarn> and says
[13:05] <Kalidarn> later
[13:06] <Kalidarn> yossarianuk: well then later
[13:06] <Kalidarn> maybe it's not UK time
[13:06] <Kalidarn> not everyone lives in the UK either
[13:06] <yossarianuk> i know........
[13:06] <Kalidarn> and then it could be delayed
[13:06] <yossarianuk> be cool if you all did though.
[13:06] <Kalidarn> by a few hours if something comes up
[13:06] <yossarianuk> bit cramped...
[13:07] <Kalidarn> good news is though the tests seem successful http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/314/builds/66909/testcases
[13:07] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93,  do you have the network manager widget installed in the panel ? it's a good place to start.
[13:07] <Kalidarn> so media will probably be available some time
[13:08] <BluesKaj> yossarianuk, 2PM UK time ?
[13:08] <rvraghav93> BluesKaj: Ya ! its there ... its even detecting the signal and the network ! :( I tried using some zte data cards and it works fine ! just these huawei devices are bing detected as wwan0 devices.
[13:09] <yossarianuk> yes.... I was obviously expecting it to be released at 14:04... BluesKaj:
[13:10] <Kalidarn> lol yossarianuk
[13:10] <Kalidarn> 14:04:00?
[13:10] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, set your encyption options and password in network manager ?
[13:10] <aaaaaaa> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DxjvaoHUnCc
[13:11] <guedressel_> *<( :-)       RELEASE PARTY
[13:12] <rvraghav93> BluesKaj: Tried that :( My guess is the issue is very much similar or just the same as here : http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=148990
[13:13] <BluesKaj> guedressel_, #ubuntu-release-party
[13:16] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, pastebin the result, sudo lshw -C network
[13:29] <fg4y6g3> Is there any ETA when 14.04 will be available for download?
[13:31] <Rk2> Maybe the daily-live is the release ?
[13:35] <yossarianuk> fg4y6g3: today
[14:17] <ezra-s> are we there yet? hehehe
[14:18] <alket> ezra-s: almost
[14:18] <ezra-s> alket, thanks, also is there a release notes page for 14.04 we can check in advance?
[14:20] <alket> ezra-s: i dont know
[14:20] <ezra-s> alket, it's ok, thank you :)
[14:53] <rvraghav93> BluesKaj: Hey sorry for the delayed response :) http://pastebin.com/cXPJy5g6
[14:53] <rvraghav93> Btw are we getting a Kubuntu 14 ?
[14:55] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, yes, today is the official release date, but no time of day has been quoted.
[14:57] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, iwlist scan , to see what's available
[15:07] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, iwlist scan , to see what's available
[15:08] <BluesKaj> ok that's enough, not waiting any longer
[15:32] <lolTahr> KUBUNTU SUCKS GO MINT
[15:33] <lolTahr> !ISITOUTYET
[15:33] <lolTahr> !ISITOUTYETNIGGAH
[15:33] <lolTahr> !ISITOUTYET
[15:33] <ezra-s> someone demanding attention
[15:34] <ezra-s> lolTahr, hush hush, baby, come, let me hug you
[15:34] <Rk2> Out :) http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[15:36] <ezra-s> shhhh
[15:37] <ezra-s> websites do not seem updated yet
[15:37] <questioner> quick question. when is kubuntu slated to release 14.04
[15:37] <ezra-s> questioner, today!
[15:37] <lordievader> questioner: Around the same time Ubuntu releases Trusty.
[15:37] <facorread> When it's good and ready, questioner.
[15:38] <barmaley> it's only _U_buntu links.. :-\
[15:38] <ezra-s> barmaley, it also has kubuntu-* packages if you are in a hurry
[15:38] <questioner> ok, wasnt sure, ubuntu put out their press releases but hasn't let the binary drop yet
[15:52] <rvraghav93> BluesKaj: Please excuse my sudden dissapearance ! my dsl is v. poor ! Thats y wanted this modem ... Do you need any more info ?
[15:53] <BluesKaj> rvraghav93, iwlist scan , to see what's available
[16:04] <Duke_> hi guys, is kubuntu 14.04 released yet?
[16:04] <lordievader> Duke_: Almost :)
[16:04] <Duke_> ok :)
[16:06] <necrordian_> Hi
[16:07] <Duke_> hi
[16:07] <necrordian_> Ubuntu seems to be slowly releasing, what about Kubuntu?
[16:08] <salsero|2> find out using apt-get update
[16:38] <rvraghav93> Blueskai: are you Blueskaj ?
[16:39] <Blueskai> rvraghav93, yes i was
[16:39] <rvraghav93> cool my dsl stabilized ... please help me out wih the issue :)
[16:39] <rvraghav93> if you are free :)
[16:40] <Blueskai> did you run the iwlist scan ?
[16:41] <rvraghav93> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7269221/
[16:41] <rvraghav93> this is the result :)
[16:41] <rvraghav93> when I do it with the ZTE modem ( which works and connects for the same network and settings ) the wwan0 is replaced by usb0 !
[16:43] <Blueskai> is the router/modem a usb device?
[16:49] <slvr1> when can i expect kubuntu 14.04 final release?
[16:49] <chachan> slvr1, before today ends
[16:55] <paagrio> hi all
[16:55] <paagrio> can anyone tell when 14.04 will be out?
[16:56] <ezra-s> today :o)
[16:56] <paagrio> wiull be looking into it
[16:56] <paagrio> i want to install my new SSD
[16:58] <barmaley> they have already created directory for images: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[17:03] <rvraghav93> BluesKai: ya its a usb modem ! This is the one  http://www.amazon.com/Huawei-E355-Unlocked-Mobile-21Mbps/dp/B008TH3VH0
[17:10] <BluesKai> rvraghav93, can't find any linux drivers available for that device ...sorry :/
[17:10] <rvraghav93> BluesKai: lol Okay :)
[17:12] <rvraghav93> BluesKai: There is some solution for ubuntu at this forum. Will that be even relavant to Kubuntu and is it possible to patch Kernel like they have described ?
[17:15] <rvraghav93> BluesKai: some reloaded cdc_ncm after commenting out the lines ! how to do that in kubuntu ? The make fails with this warning !
[17:15] <rvraghav93> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7269399/
[17:17] <doctorpepper> hi guys
[17:18] <klew> I so wanna upgrade, almost considering setting a script that tries dist-upgrade every five minutes xD
[17:20] <doctorpepper> does  anyone  know  if  kde 4.13  will be backported to 12.04  ?
[17:24] <locktite> http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/kubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent
[17:27] <searchfgold> Hey folks, anyone know if we're going to have .isos soon?
[17:28] <locktite> all iso-torrents are available, see http://www.muylinux.com/2014/04/17/ubuntu-14-04-lts-trusty-tahr-2
[17:29] <searchfgold> sweet, thanks!
[17:30] <Meerkat> searchfgold, it is not out yet. Anything you download may not be the final release and you're slowing down mirror distribution.
[17:31] <rvraghav93> any one who knows about the cdc_ncm.c file ?
[17:33] <searchfgold> Meerkat, oh ok. will wait
[17:40] <searchfgold> @meerkat including the torrent?
[17:49] <princip0l> !isitoutyet
[17:49] <chachan> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ says no beta anymore :)
[17:50] <chachan> haha, nice bot
[17:59] <klew> nice... I keep testing "apt-get dist-upgrade" every few minutes ^^
[17:59] <shadeslayer> klew: won't work
[17:59] <shadeslayer> klew: you'll get a notification from muon when it's out
[18:00] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: done
[18:00] <klew> ah how handy :)
[18:03] <RealityCheck> ?
[18:04] <necrordian> Why kubuntu images are still not available?
[18:04] <kaisen> does anyone have a 14.04 kubuntu torrent
[18:04] <necrordian> No
[18:04] <Exagone313> how many ip are banned here ? lol
[18:04] <pmd`> The hamburglar stole them.
[18:04] <kaisen> :(
[18:06] <klew> oh calm down, ubuntu 14.04 has been out for about five minutes, guessing kubuntu will be in the next few
[18:07] <Exagone313> few minuites or days ?
[18:08] <necrordian> Ubuntu now released. Waiting for kubuntu :(
[18:08] <necrordian> images available!!
[18:08] <klew> minutes or hours, you can always install regular ubuntu and manually install kde 4.13 :P
[18:08] <necrordian> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ now available
[18:09] <Exagone313> yeah
[18:10] <Exagone313> klew: the last time i did it, i had some problems (i had ubuntu login screen and not kvm)
[18:11] <chachan> "is it out yet?" over and over sounds like Bart and Lisa asking for something to Homer
[18:12]  * apachelogger is still moving bytes around ;)
[18:12] <klew> chachan: "is it out yet?" "no" "is it out yet?" "no" "is it out yet?" "yes" "really?" "no!"
[18:14] <asega> Start page updated! http://www.kubuntu.org/
[18:15] <klew> w00pw00p!
[18:16] <searchfgold> hoo ray
[18:18] <delight> weired thing about the iso …it is not in the dir listing but the links on top of the page work http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[18:20] <yofel> images being a bit unstable is being worked on
[18:21] <yoyo> thought it was just me. Couldnt see a .torrent file
[18:23] <ScottyK> also looking for the torrent file. Glad I'm not the only one
[18:23] <yoyo> wget working for now.
[18:24] <chachan> klew, haha
[18:24]  * chachan loves that answer!
[18:25] <EvilRoey> Riddell, yofel, youyo, delight & all, Congratulations on the release!!!!
[18:25] <EvilRoey> *yoyo
[18:25] <necrordian> Links on website not working. What happened?
[18:29] <EvilRoey> necrordian:  which links do not work?  I just tried running apt-get update && do-release-upgrade, and I get "No new release found"
[18:29] <EvilRoey> tldr apparently we have different issues
[18:29] <delight> impressive kde 4.13 was released yesterday and its already on the release iso … hope it didn’t break to many things
[18:30] <yofel> EvilRoey: release upgrader changes are waiting for the servers to get fixed
[18:30] <EvilRoey> aye gotcha
[18:30] <delight> EvilRoey: I guess necrordian ment the links on http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[18:30] <EvilRoey> oh okay
[18:30] <EvilRoey> yofel, are the servers being upgraded?
[18:31] <yofel> not really, killed by traffic I think ^^
[18:31] <EvilRoey> aha :)
[18:32] <necrordian> Links work back
[18:32] <klew> EvilRoey: seems it's not released for upgrading from previous versions yet
[18:32] <searchfgold> We're up again
[18:32] <klew> EvilRoey: because Im' getting the same messages
[18:33] <EvilRoey> got it
[18:33] <EvilRoey> klew:  I'd surelylike to upgrade my laptop before I head out on this business trip
[18:33] <EvilRoey> As it turns out, I have alrady upgraded my desktop
[18:33] <EvilRoey> so I am reassured by that.
[18:33] <EvilRoey> btw, make sure that if you use OpenVPN, that you replace your key.
[18:34] <Inops> Torrent's out! http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[18:34] <EvilRoey> assume that the someone has already exploited libssl heartbleed and gotten your keys.
[18:36] <bennypr0fane> hello, I tried to install 14.04 beta2 and had pretty bad issues after updating. I wonder if the problem could still be present in the release
[18:36] <kaisen> can not get torrent
[18:36] <klew> we were lucky, were using Squeeze on our web servers and stuff
[18:36] <kaisen> s
[18:37] <Kalidarn> kaisen: how bout you wait bit longer lol.
[18:37] <Lonise> Hello, I cannot find on the internet the planned release date for Kubuntu 14.04, do you have an idea of it ?
[18:37] <klew> EvilRoey: btw, if you're in a hurry I suppose you could download the iso and use it as source?
[18:37] <Kalidarn> instead of being so demanding
[18:38] <kaisen> loading the iso now over http/ftp
[18:38] <bennypr0fane> I updated and changed the graphics driver from Xorg to Nvidia proprietary. afer reboot, I get 2 problems. 1 usb ports aren't working and I can't input anyhting, or 2. Xsession goes blank after 2 minutes or less
[18:39] <EvilRoey> klew:  oh, true
[18:39] <klew> Kalidarn: "We demand this free thing that people pour their hearts into should be 100% perfect and available minutes after release!!" :P
[18:39] <EvilRoey> klew:  thanks for the suggestion
[18:39] <EvilRoey> I suppose it'd be easy, right? just add the iso to a deb line?
[18:39] <klew> I think it should work
[18:39] <Kalidarn> EvilRoey: yeah but that doesn't check your ppas
[18:39] <Kalidarn> you can just upgrade to the latest "development" release with it too
[18:39] <Kalidarn> and that will do the same thing
[18:40] <Kalidarn> as there is no development release
[18:40] <Kalidarn> just be sure to uncheck it when you're done
[18:40] <klew> I've got 4 days off due to easter so I'm not in a huge hurry :)
[18:40] <Kalidarn> or it might try to upgrade to 14.10 when that is available
[18:40] <kaisen> k torrent is running
[18:40] <kaisen> happy shareing
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> has anyone heard of this kind of thing with the beta2? or the stable release (if anyone has that installed already)?
[18:41] <Kalidarn> beta2 is the same as stable
[18:41] <Kalidarn> if updated
[18:41] <Kalidarn> but no bennypr0fane
[18:41] <ScottyK> wahoo, torrents! Thanks!
[18:41] <kaisen> i used beta2 2weeks and it works great
[18:41] <bennypr0fane> Kalidarn, then that means my crash occured on stable
[18:42] <bennypr0fane> my torrent is coming down fine, decent speed too
[18:42] <Kalidarn> bennypr0fane: that said when i did use jockey on beta 2 i think i recall it removing removing nouveau packages
[18:42] <Kalidarn> but the case could be different now
[18:43] <Kalidarn> going from nouveau to binary nvidia left me with an un-runable X because it removed something
[18:43] <Kalidarn> but i installed the missing package and it was back
[18:43] <bennypr0fane> Kalidarn, doesn't it always do that when installing proprietary dirvers (i.e. remove the corresponding open one)?
[18:44] <bennypr0fane> Kalidarn, how might I check if something's missing from another OS on the same machine?
[18:44] <Kalidarn> as far as i know no
[18:44] <Kalidarn> ii  libdrm-nouveau2:amd64                       2.4.52-1                              amd64        Userspace interface to nouveau-specific kernel DRM services -- runtime'
[18:44] <Kalidarn> ii  xserver-xorg-video-nouveau                  1:1.0.10-1ubuntu2                     amd64        X.Org X server -- Nouveau display driver
[18:44] <Kalidarn> will still show
[18:45] <Kalidarn> but you'll also see nvidia-*****
[18:45] <Kalidarn> for the binary packages
[18:47] <bennypr0fane> Because of the usb issue, I can't solve the problem from the command line *in* kubuntu, I can only start anohter OS an look into kubuntu's file system
[18:50] <jdoles> Hi
[18:51] <jdoles> Can you tell me why you would want to develop some clone of the Ubuntu App Store (or whatever that thing is called)?
[18:51] <jdoles> Your product is still full with bugs and what do you do? You add some feature. Are you stupid or just malicious?
[18:53] <jdoles> I don't know who is in charge of this project (probably nobody!), but if someone is, he/she is a fucking failure.
[18:54] <Shackleford_> Hello?
[18:57] <Lonise> JDoles is a unity troll
[18:58] <jdoles> Lonise: you are a retard, because I did not even talk about Unity.
[18:58] <Lonise> I am kidding
[18:58] <jdoles> Lonise: that's what they all say.
[18:58] <Lonise> I don't mind anyways
[18:58] <Lonise> what are you upset about ?
[18:58] <jdoles> Lonise: great; we need more people like you.
[18:59] <jdoles> Lonise: I can't comprehend why that Kubuntu App Store thing was developed.
[19:00] <jdoles> Lonise: that would have *never* happened if Kubuntu was developed by anyone sane.
[19:00] <claydoh> jdoles: it is just one of a number of tools available
[19:00] <Lonise> are you talking about muon or something new in 14.04 ? (I haven't upgraded so far)
[19:00] <jdoles> claydoh: and why would you add *new* feature when the old ones don't work yet?
[19:00] <jdoles> features*
[19:00] <claydoh> Muon discover is the default software center
[19:00] <jdoles> Right, why would you ever do that?
[19:00] <rberg_> you may get a better response if you mention some actual bugs
[19:01] <jdoles> Is your bug tracking system empty then?
[19:01] <claydoh> ?? Ive used muon for years and years now
[19:01] <claydoh> what is wrong with discover?
[19:01] <jdoles> Do you really not get it?
[19:01] <Lonise> I think muon is an important piece of software for new linux users who are used to be assisted in any possible manner (as in OSX or Win)
[19:01] <ScottyK> already 90 seeders for the 64-bit torrent. impressive!
[19:02] <claydoh> jdoles: no I do not
[19:02] <jdoles> Ok, let's say you are running some project, and the project has not been completed yet. Then someone comes along and suggests that you should even do more work. What do you do?
[19:03] <jdoles> You apparently think it's a good idea to add this extra work (Discover).
[19:03] <Lonise> I only think it should be user friendly to widen the community
[19:03] <jdoles> You "widen" the community by making sure that the basics work.
[19:03] <jdoles> Like those _memory_leaks_.
[19:03] <rberg_> why pick on the app store when there are other more significant targets
[19:04] <jdoles> You are just developing features and never fix the bugs.
[19:04] <jdoles> I.e., you are introducing bugs and don't solve them.
[19:04] <Lonise> sure
[19:04] <Lonise> Linux Mint as a huge community because it has all kind of utilities
[19:04] <jdoles> I call that a hugely incompetent way of running a project.
[19:04] <jdoles> Lonise: no, Linux Mint uses old software which doesn't have such terrible memory leaks.
[19:05] <jdoles> Lonise: and it looks familiar.
[19:05] <jdoles> Lonise: nobody cares for those bells and whistles.
[19:05] <jdoles> Lonise: if you think otherwise, you have no idea at all.
[19:05] <bennypr0fane> ScottyK, I'll be joining them in about half an hour. unless I can start seeding before having downloaded the entire file?
[19:06] <jdoles> bennypr0fane: just raise your upload...
[19:07] <jdoles> I also don't quite get why you are arguing for a course of action which is clearly insane.
[19:07] <bennypr0fane> jdoles, wow, you must have had some *VERY* bad experiences with Muon.
[19:07] <jdoles> bennypr0fane: it has nothing to do with Muon.
[19:07] <jdoles> It has to do with Kubuntu as a whole product.
[19:07] <dmatt> jdoles: i do not know, if any community made *ubuntu even legally can use ubuntu software store, they have more stuff than software there
[19:07] <Lonise> so for example, what distribution do you prefer according to you criteria ?
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> But still a buckload of those have never sent me on a huge rant like yours
[19:08] <jdoles> Lonise: why do you ask irrelevant questions?
[19:08] <bennypr0fane> jdoles did you contribute to the project and were kicked out, or mobbed or sth.?
[19:09] <dmatt> jdoles: do not know how much effort you put into any kubuntu stuff but critising this way is usually not helping anyone
[19:09] <bennypr0fane> jdoles, I wonder how yr complaints are relevant to the topic. Is this not a support channel?
[19:09] <jdoles> bennypr0fane: I explained a few times how fundamentally flawed some parts of KDE/Kubuntu are, the devs basically said I was right, and then did nothing about it.
[19:09] <Lonise> jdoles: it is not irrelevant, I would like an example of project managed the way you prefer to get a better idea of what you would prefer
[19:09] <jdoles> bennypr0fane: I can do that, because I am fucking God compared to pretty much everyone in this "community".
[19:10] <bennypr0fane> jdoles when then you should probably be complaining to the people who wronged poor you
[19:10] <bennypr0fane> go to the development chanlle for Kubuntu
[19:11] <Lonise> Okay, I have a question, is it normal that the kubuntu upgrade to 14.04 is not yet available through muon updater ?
[19:11] <bennypr0fane> jdoles but probably you already did that, were kicked out and now you go chewing on innocent bystanders' ears ;-)
[19:12] <bennypr0fane> Lonise, maybe you have it installed already?
[19:12] <Lonise> no I am on Saucy
[19:12] <bennypr0fane> oh
[19:13] <bennypr0fane> then maybe give it a few more hours...
[19:13] <Lonise> yeah okay
[19:15] <ScottyK> If we are already running 13.10, can we use the downloaded DVD to upgrade from, or is it better to wait for it to become available from the do-release-upgrade?
[19:15] <Programmer_> if i uninstalled muon, can i still get 14.04 through dist-upgrade?
[19:23] <bennypr0fane> ScottyK you can do both I think, but I would recommend the latter
[19:23] <bennypr0fane> because there may be still a couple extra bugfixes in the repo before they push it
[19:24] <bennypr0fane> compared to the iso downlaods
[19:24] <ScottyK> roger that, I'll wait!
[19:25] <claydoh> Programmer_: you would need to run do-release-upgrade, a dist-upgrade won't get you to Trusty
[19:26] <Programmer_> yeah, says there is no upgrade available
[19:30] <DarthFrog> Programmer_:  Then run "sudo do-release-upgrade -d"
[19:31] <Programmer_> i heard doing -d can be a bad thing...
[19:31] <DarthFrog> How so?
[19:31] <Programmer_> idk, just heard it in #ubuntu
[19:31] <Programmer_> why should i do -d if it isnt developemtal
[19:32] <DarthFrog> Because it's not working with out it?   If you do that, then do a dist-upgrade, you will be running Trusty.
[19:32] <Programmer_> oh okay
[19:33] <DarthFrog> Or just wait a while until the -d switch isn't needed.
[19:33] <claydoh> Programmer_: I agree with DarthFrog. Though I do wonder if they still hold off on gyhe upgrade notifications for a bit like they had in the past?
[19:33] <Programmer_> gyhe?
[19:34] <claydoh> lol 'the', rather
[19:35] <claydoh> sorry
[19:35] <bennypr0fane> DarthFrog, +1
[19:36] <Programmer_> Remove: foomatic-filters jockey-common jockey-kde kde-config-touchpad
[19:36] <Programmer_>   libperl5.14
[19:36] <Programmer_>  
[19:36] <Programmer_> that right?
[19:39] <Programmer_> Why does ubuntu not release updates for things like wireshark, until a OS upgrade?
[19:40] <DarthFrog> Do you have the backports repo enabled?
[20:29] <hojjat> I'm trying to ugrade to kubuntu 14.04, but update manager doesn't find new release. what should I do?
[20:30] <Pici> hojjat: wait
[20:31] <hojjat> ok...
[20:38] <SorenHolm> Happy Kubuntu 14.04 release day :D
[20:38] <SorenHolm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1307717
[20:39] <SorenHolm> How can I help fixing the broken chromium in 14.04. It broke 3 day before the release an I wrote a number of posts to get chromium reolled back to a version that actually works.
[20:40] <sophie__> Heya, is there a way that I can modify the behaviour of the application launcher so that things are navigated via clicks and not by just mousing over?
[20:41] <eiapopeia_> Hi. Neither Muon nor do-release-upgrade is able to find the new release …
[20:41] <bprompt> sophie__:     usually "via clicks" is the default behaviour
[20:42] <bprompt> eiapopeia_:   the new release of?    trusty tahr?
[20:42] <eiapopeia_> Yepp 14.04
[20:43] <ezra-s> "No new release found" :P
[20:43] <ezra-s> muon or do-release-upgrade do not find it, mirros still updating?
[20:44] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Some of the bugs seem to be bugs that are related to Aura (Pepper-only API and the redrawing). Are you sure you have Chromium 34 and not 35 or 36?
[20:44] <bprompt> ezra-s:     right.. lemme see if I can find a link, IIRC kubuntu 14.04 release date is 20th
[20:45] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Also, I'm on Chromium 36, and I can only confirm the icedtea-plugin problem and the switch to Pepper API (It was planned)
[20:46] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: Well it make a lot of things unusable and making such a change 3 day before a release is not good.
[20:46] <shadeslayer> IIRC the meta info for upgrade notifications was being held back
[20:46] <shadeslayer> But my information is about 3 hours old
[20:47] <shadeslayer> ezra-s: ^^
[20:47] <ezra-s> ok, no worries
[20:47] <ezra-s> was just wondering
[20:47] <saiarcot895> shadeslayer: yes, the m-r link still has Saucy as the latest
[20:47] <shadeslayer> eiapopeia_: too ^^
[20:47] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: "unusable" as in rendering errors and PPAPI-only available?
[20:48] <shadeslayer> You could just edit /etc/update-manager/meta-releasd
[20:48] <shadeslayer> *release
[20:48] <saiarcot895> unless my mind is missing something...
[20:48] <shadeslayer> And append -development to the URI's
[20:48] <shadeslayer> Or just ... Wait a day or two
[20:49] <saiarcot895> shadeslayer: Using "do-upgrade-release -d" also works
[20:49] <shadeslayer> Usually its better to wait a day or so since servers calm down a bit too
[20:49] <eiapopeia_> shadeslayer: or do do-release-upgrade --devel-release
[20:49] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: yes - I mean - from a release perspective, things should now break anything 3 days before release.
[20:49] <shadeslayer> saiarcot895: or that , yeah
[20:49] <shadeslayer> Whatever works
[20:49] <larsivi> kubuntu.org says 14.04 is available (since 3 hours ago), so seems a bit counterproductive that it isn't
[20:50] <shadeslayer> larsivi: how is it not available ?
[20:50] <eiapopeia_> larsivi: It is, but just for download, not for update
[20:50] <BluesKaj> the main Canadian servers aren't synced yet
[20:50] <larsivi> shadeslayer: in that do-release-upgrade says it isn't
[20:50] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Just to check, when you resize any window (Chromium or otherwise), do the contents get redrawn as you are resizing or are thay static?
[20:50] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: FinalFreeze where April 10th. How can it then be "allowed" to upgrade chromium?
[20:51] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: CVEs and security fixes
[20:51] <shadeslayer> larsivi: thats because meta info regarding update was being held back due to something ... I think
[20:51] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: it only happenens during normlize/maximize as I remember.
[20:51] <shadeslayer> Let me check
[20:51] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: as far as I can see the new chromium is not a security-fix.
[20:51] <larsivi> shadeslayer: not a big deal, the mention about do-release-upgrade is a couple of clicks away from the front page
[20:53] <larsivi> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 <-- this suggests that an update should be available though
[20:54] <larsivi> I know the --devel-release way to do it, was just pointing out that it was my impression after readng the release info that that shouldn't be necessary
[20:54] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: ok, it seems that (contrary to my belief) Chromium 34 has actually removed NPAPI support
[20:54] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: There is a patch in this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/+bug/1307989
[20:55] <eiapopeia_> larsivi: I think you are absolutely right.
[20:55] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: How do chromium integrate java without NPAPI?
[20:56] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: It doesn't. IcedTea needs to work on a PPAPI plugin.
[20:56] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Also, there were CVE fixes https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/chromium-browser/34.0.1847.116-0ubuntu1~pkg1006
[20:58] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: That's all nice, but it does not change the fact that NPAPI did break with the new version which is not semthing that is desireable to happen after FinalFreeze.
[20:58] <Rocco-_> hello
[20:58] <Rocco-_> what kernel ship 14.04??
[20:59] <saiarcot895> Rocco-_: 3.13.0-24
[20:59] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: I think I found the cause of the breakages, and I'm surprised if it is so. Let me check
[20:59] <Rocco-_> thanks,,i have a ralink RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter...
[20:59] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: ok.
[20:59] <Rocco-_> i hope the wireless work with the kernel
[21:00] <Rocco-_> now im on 12.04..
[21:01] <Etriaph> Hey folks.
[21:01] <Etriaph> Managed to get 14.04 installed, but can't seem to get nvidia drivers to take
[21:02] <Rocco-_> what!!!
[21:02] <Rocco-_> i have nvidia
[21:02] <Etriaph> Installed nvidia-current-updates, still no luck
[21:02] <Rocco-_> damn
[21:02] <Rocco-_> imma cancel the download
[21:02] <Etriaph> I have a GeForce GTX 750 connected via HDMI
[21:02] <Etriaph> Rocco-_: Well, I do have an X display
[21:02] <Rocco-_> i have a gforce 780 ti
[21:02] <Etriaph> So we're in the same boat.
[21:03] <Rocco-_> crap
[21:03] <Etriaph> But this is still the beta, Kubuntu 14.04 isn't released yet
[21:03] <Rocco-_> got it
[21:04] <larsivi> Etriaph: actually Kubuntu 14.04 has been announced as released
[21:04] <Rocco-_> :(
[21:04] <Etriaph> Oh?  It wasn't announced an hour ago :)
[21:05] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Apparently, to get high DPI and touch support, Aura was enabled on M34 (what's currently in stable), even though Aura is shipped by default on M35. Hence, you get the PPAPI-only support (which is planned) and the rendering bugs (probably because it wasn't fixed back then)
[21:05] <Etriaph> How can I update from the beta to the full release?
[21:05] <Rocco-_> KERNEL 3.0.13-24 ralink RT2870/RT3070???
[21:05] <larsivi> Etriaph: if you have the beta, you won't actually notice the difference beyond the number of updates slowing down significantly
[21:06] <Etriaph> larsivi: Damn, having issues with my display driver
[21:06] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: I did not expect that
[21:06] <Rocco-_> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04
[21:06] <Etriaph> nvidia-settings doesn't think the nvidia driver is present, and I haven't been prompted to install the proprietary driver at all
[21:07] <shadeslayer> Looking at irc log suggests Canonical is dealing with some infra issues before flipping the upgrade switch
[21:07] <larsivi> Etriaph: there should be a new gui for hardware drivers - have you looked at it?
[21:07] <Etriaph> Driver Manager under System Administration you mean?
[21:07] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: That's no problem as long as NPAPI can be enabled again in some way.
[21:08] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: How do java-integration work wiht PPAPI?
[21:08] <shadeslayer> larsivi: hope that answers your upgrade question
[21:08] <larsivi> shadeslayer: yes, thanks :)
[21:08] <shadeslayer> Awesome :)
[21:08] <larsivi> Etriaph: don't really know, have 13.10 still
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Also, -d will work this week
[21:09] <shadeslayer> But probably not after a but
[21:09] <shadeslayer> *bit
[21:09] <shadeslayer> Once 14.10 opens up
[21:09] <Rocco-_> im stick with 12.04..no problems
[21:09] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: it can't. NPAPI plugins (Java, Flash Player 11 (which you should have noticed by now it doesn't work), etc.) can't run as PPAPI. They are two completely different types/architectures. The plugin/library itself will probably have to be rewritten.
[21:10] <shadeslayer> So please use with care
[21:10] <alket> theres a number "2" out of page, in this link http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04, line 385
[21:10] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: so no java with PPAPI ?
[21:10] <shadeslayer> alket: yeah known issue.
[21:10] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: no, not until IcedTea can shift to PPAPI (no idea if they are planning to do so)
[21:10] <shadeslayer> Not sure where it comes from
[21:10] <shadeslayer> I mentioned it earlier today
[21:12] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: ok - what will happen with M34 currently in the repos?
[21:13] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Well, it will remain until Chad Miller (the maintainer) gets around to working on it.
[21:18] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: That's too bad. Now the whole world installs 14.04 + chromiuim during the easter and gets bad first impression. But I sure do hope that he will roll bad to M33 or something :)
[21:19] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: Btw. this might be off-topic but how is PPAPI on windows. No java there as well I guess?
[21:21] <bprompt> ahemm... well, I use chrome :P
[21:21] <saiarcot895> bprompt: Chrome 34 is on GTK, Chromium 34 in the repos is on Aura
[21:22] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: I haven't tried it recently, but WIndows is more likely to have Sun/Oracle's version of Java (not IcedTea), and I think it works there.
[21:22] <saiarcot895> SorenHolm: Windows has been on Aura for a while now; it's new only for Linux
[21:22] <bennypr0fane> hello, I'd like to check the integrity of my live usb, but it seems the installer doesn't have that option anymore. Any idea how i can make sure it's fine?
[21:23] <wxl> !md5 | bennypr0fane
[21:23] <bennypr0fane> wxl thanks, but I don't mean the iso file - I already checked that. I meant the ready thumb drive, after mounting the iso on it
[21:24] <wxl> bennypr0fane: md5 the drive. read the thing.
[21:25] <rberg_> Hi all, I am having a rather annoying problem.. something is causing a 'report problem' window on starting kde if I click continue it asks for my password. I dont know what is causing this and I am not about to put my password into a unidentified window! what to do?
[21:25] <SorenHolm> saiarcot895: ok - thanks for the answers. Looking forward to Chads return :)
[21:25] <wxl> rberg_: if something crashes, apport will automatically collect system files which could contain information you don't want shared. it's asking your permission for this. typically if you continue it will file a bug and set it to private.
[21:27] <rberg_> I understand that. I feel that this window should say that its apport and tell me what crashed before asking for my password, as I will never put my password into a unlabeled window
[21:27] <wxl> rberg_: feel free to file a bug
[21:27] <rberg_> and we should not be training users to do that :)
[21:27] <rberg_> ok thanks!
[21:28] <wxl> rberg_: i mean file a bug for the thing that crashed AND for your suggestion
[21:28] <rberg_> how can I find out what crashed with out entering my password?
[21:28] <wxl> rberg_: let me dig
[21:28] <rberg_> thanks!
[21:29] <rberg_> now that I know whats its called, I see /var/log/apport
[21:29] <wxl> yeah
[21:29] <wxl> and the crash files are in /var/crash
[21:31] <bennypr0fane> wxl, these instructions are for a cd. do you think this works the same way for a usb stick, meaning the files are on the drive starting from its beginning, empty space only at the end -like on a CD?
[21:31] <wxl> bennypr0fane: you can use it on a usb just like you do on a cd, yes
[21:32] <bennypr0fane> wxl thanks
[21:32] <Etriaph> Argh, still no luck getting Kubuntu to see this card.
[21:32] <wxl> Etriaph: i doubt i can offer much help if you've been fighting it for a while but which?
[21:33] <Etriaph> It's my video card, nvidia-settings won't let me configure it
[21:33] <Etriaph> Just trying to figure out how to get X to use it
[21:33] <Etriaph> Kubuntu 14.04
[21:33] <wxl> which video card?
[21:33] <Etriaph> GeForce GTX 750
[21:34] <wxl> like what's lspci say about it?
[21:34] <Etriaph> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GM107 [GeForce GTX 750] (rev a2)
[21:34] <Etriaph> I've installed nvidia-current
[21:35] <Etriaph> Just trying to get a path as to what to do next
[21:35] <Etriaph> I'll be rockin' along once my video is configured :)
[21:36] <wxl> well i tap out, i have no clue :)
[21:36] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, have you checked additional drivers especially the 331 driver
[21:37] <Etriaph> BluesKaj: In the System Settings -> Driver Management?
[21:37] <Etriaph> In reports 0 drivers after collecting information about the system
[21:38] <Etriaph> *It
[21:44] <Rocco-_> i need kde 4.13 update!! xD
[21:45] <BluesKaj> Etriaph, guess additional drivers in kmenu>apps>system no longer exists
[21:45] <bennypr0fane> I think I did something wrong there, but I can't find what. http://pastie.org/9088404  It should have dd'd only the count I specified, but instead it did the whole drive again
[21:47] <bennypr0fane> on the other hand, is says only 7570752 Bytes in/out. then how can it have copied 15GB?
[21:47] <bennypr0fane> *16GB
[21:48] <bennypr0fane> I don't get it
[21:49] <bennypr0fane> wxl I was following the instructions on that page you gave me
[21:49] <wxl> um, bennypr0fane, you need to adapt the instructions. you can't point at the cdrom device and expect it to "find" your usb
[21:50] <bennypr0fane> I pointed it to the device name of the usb drive
[21:50] <wxl>  /dev/cdrom is not the usb drive
[21:50] <wxl> it sure shouldn't be
[21:50] <Programmer-N7> Why does cups take so long to restart with the 14.04 upgrade
[21:50] <bennypr0fane> you can see I adapted them on that paste
[21:51] <wxl> bennypr0fane: what's this line about dd if=/dev/cdrom bs=1 count=732766208 | md5sum
[21:51] <bennypr0fane> this and everything below it is the example from the wiki page
[21:51] <bennypr0fane> to compare what it's supposed to look like
[21:52] <wxl> bennypr0fane: ok so if you've done the math right on your count then it should be correct
[21:52] <wxl> bennypr0fane: which is to say you should dd to the drive again
[21:52] <bennypr0fane> i.e. the in/out figure being the same as the one I specified for count
[21:52] <bennypr0fane> but in my output, it's a much lower figure
[21:53] <bennypr0fane> I specified as count the file size that was given out by ls -l
[21:54] <bennypr0fane> the hash doesn't match
[21:54] <wxl> then they're not the same, bennypr0fane
[21:54] <bennypr0fane> dang
[21:55] <bennypr0fane> are you sure imade no mistake in the checksum command?
[21:55] <wxl> no i'm not. i'm haven'
[21:55] <wxl> t double checked your work
[21:55] <wxl> cuz my work is distracting me :)
[21:56] <wxl> but i gave you the info you need to do what you want
[21:56] <bennypr0fane> wxl sorry, just asking. is it normal for the image to consist of 2 partitions when mounted on the drive?
[21:57] <wxl> bennypr0fane: not sure. i've never looked.
[21:57] <bennypr0fane> because apparently there are 2 partitions on the thumb drive. never had that before
[21:58] <wxl> i admit you should be doing all this dd business with the drive unmounted
[22:01] <bennypr0fane> wxl, here's one little piece of info I may have forgotten
[22:01] <bennypr0fane> in fact, I never remember that
[22:03] <alket> im trying to create a shortcut for Ctrl + Alt + Del to open xkill , but it isnt possible with global shortcuts, how to do it ?
[22:05] <chachan> how is it going so far?, I already burned it
[22:05] <chachan> about to do a clean installation
[22:05] <OerHeks> hi, just made a kubuntu 14.04 usb, booting from it, it only wants to install on sdb, whatever i do with hdd priority ..
[22:05] <OerHeks> is this a know bug?
[22:06] <chachan> OerHeks, do you check any config in the BIOS?
[22:06] <OerHeks> chachan, yes i did, as usual.
[22:07] <chachan> weird, BRB
[22:09] <alket> how to add dolphin and firefox near "show desktop" at bottom panel ?
[22:10] <SJr> Hmmm I don't seem to be getting a prompt for an udpate
[22:10] <wxl> alket: drag and drop
[22:11] <wxl> SJr: yeah the servers are kind of overloaded
[22:11] <alket> wxl: thank you
[22:12] <d2au> alket: KWin has a kill window shortcut built-in (Ctrl+Alt+Esc)
[22:12] <alket> d2au: thank you
[22:12] <alket> now my desktop is perfect :)
[22:13] <bprompt> alket:     good then don't forget to make an image, so when is not so, you can always rollback :)
[22:13] <wxl> or just save /home
[22:13] <alket> bprompt: by image do you mean screenshot or something else ?
[22:13]  * bprompt at the very least backups ~/ often
[22:13] <SJr> wxl is there a way I can force it, I'm about to leave for Easter weekend and would like it updated since Kubuntu seems to have problems with Eclipse?
[22:13] <bprompt> alket:     image, system raw image
[22:14] <alket> oh i forgot one last thing, is it possible to make the folder widget bigger ?
[22:14] <wxl> SJr: you can do-release-upgrade -d and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:14] <wxl> alket: on the desktop?
[22:14] <alket> yes
[22:14] <alket> i want to make the desktop = home direcotry
[22:14] <AjTee> hi
[22:15] <AjTee> I have a problem with upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 Kubuntu
[22:15] <AjTee> Muon didn;t see the upgrades :/
[22:15] <bennypr0fane> I'm trying to wipe my thumb drive with gparted. I get a libparted warning: "the driver descriptor says physical block size is 2048 Bytes, Linux says it's only 512." Cancel or Ignore?
[22:15] <wxl> alket: you can right click on the desktop and it should be the last item on the menu. then go to icons
[22:15] <wxl> AjTee: overloaded servers; patience
[22:15] <AjTee> how to fix it? My system is up to date
[22:15] <AjTee> ok second question
[22:16] <AjTee> After upgrade by Muon my settings and apps will be saved?
[22:16] <wxl> AjTee: yep
[22:16] <alket> wxl: i meant to resize the widget like 100%
[22:17] <wxl> bennypr0fane: you could just sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/yourdrive
[22:17] <wxl> bennypr0fane: it will take a while but that's a pretty securely wiped drive :)
[22:17] <bennypr0fane> wxl would that create a file system?
[22:17] <wxl> alket: no idea
[22:17] <wxl> bennypr0fane: nope, it zeroes out every bit
[22:18] <AjTee> how about upgrade from dvd with recorded iso of Kubuntu?
[22:18] <AjTee> are any differences between these upgrades ? :D
[22:18] <bennypr0fane> I just did "ignore". Now Gparted said the drive is like 56 GB (it's not) and hung itself! :-(
[22:18] <wxl> AjTee: should have no difference, nope
[22:19] <AjTee> How to do an upgrade from DVD? I haven't seen this option? I have read that some settings are not kept
[22:19] <wxl> AjTee: you download the iso, burn a cd, insert the cd, turn your computer on
[22:20] <AjTee> ok but I haven't seen this option during installation, so after upgrade from dvd my nvidia drivers will be also kept ? or should i install them again?
[22:21] <wxl> AjTee: they should be either upgraded or kept depending on the situation
[22:21] <BluesKaj> still no upgrade available to 14.04 here
[22:21] <wxl> probably won't come for a while
[22:21] <wxl> everyone and their mother is mewling about the new release
[22:21] <wxl> servers are overwhelmed
[22:22] <AjTee> Ok so should I wait for an upgrade through teh Muon or upgrade from the DVD?
[22:22] <AjTee> *the
[22:22] <wxl> AjTee: doesn't matter which way you do it
[22:22] <AjTee> ok so it will be the same option of upgrade?
[22:22] <bennypr0fane> probably a familiar scenario on release days of LTS versions :-)
[22:22] <wxl> AjTee: yes. and for your next 5 questions, yes.
[22:22] <wxl> bennypr0fane: indeed.
[22:22] <bennypr0fane> AjTee, I'd recommend the former
[22:23] <BluesKaj> AjTee, the package managers all use the same servers
[22:23] <alket> bprompt: so images with clonezilla ?
[22:24] <jose__> thanks for the distro. I got a problem. I have selected the spanish language as default for the system and keyboard but it keeps working in english language.  Is it a bug? How can i fix it?
[22:24] <thefakeazned525> YEEHAW!
[22:24] <bennypr0fane> we could "wait till tomorrow" in the topic :-)
[22:24] <wxl> alket: that's one way to do it (i LOVE clonezilla!)
[22:24] <thefakeazned525> 14.04 LTS
[22:24] <wxl> bennypr0fane: +1
[22:24] <wilfredo_215> hi all, install kubuntu and I can not run gparted, install gparted muon software center, and when run, will not open, I have installed Kubuntu 14.04 LTS I'm new using kubuntu
[22:24] <thefakeazned525> Try KDE partition manager
[22:25] <wxl> or parted ;)
[22:25] <thefakeazned525> :|
[22:26] <wxl> after all, they're all parted front ends
[22:26] <bennypr0fane> how is it that I can't delete stuff from my thumb drive? I must've broken it
[22:26] <wxl> bennypr0fane: dd /dev/zero i'm telling you
[22:26] <bennypr0fane> but that's also the case for the other linux live thumb drives I haven't broken yet
[22:27] <bennypr0fane> wxl, I'll do that, but it's gonna take forever on a 16GB drive
[22:28] <wxl> bennypr0fane: yeah been there done that
[22:28] <bennypr0fane> is it normal that I need sudo to do dd on that drive?
[22:29] <wxl> bennypr0fane: yes because of permissions on /dev
[22:29] <bennypr0fane> so that's not what went wrong then...
[22:29] <bprompt> wilfredo_215:     you have to run gparted as root..... so.....     run "kdesudo gparted"
[22:29] <wxl> bennypr0fane: XD
[22:30] <thefakeazned525> Or kdesudo partitionmanager
[22:30] <thefakeazned525> :p
[22:30] <wxl> or sudo parted ☺
[22:30] <thefakeazned525> :}
[22:30] <wilfredo_215>                            bprompt                          many thanks will try to run it as root
[22:31] <bennypr0fane> ah, I get it now! the more recent distros create two partitions on the live usb bcs of EFI!
[22:31] <RGee> Hey, I need help!
[22:31] <wxl> RGee: OMG NO WAY
[22:31]  * wxl calls an ambulance
[22:31] <RGee> :(
[22:32] <RGee> When can I have an update to 14.04 on my kubuntu?
[22:32] <wxl> RGee: when the servers aren't overloaded
[22:33] <RGee> But it should atleast show that an update is there. It's like my muon has no clue about it. Is it normal?
[22:33] <wxl> RGee: when the servers are overloaded, yes
[22:33] <wxl> seriously, someone needs to change the topic.
[22:33] <RGee> Oh.. Okay!
[22:33] <bennypr0fane> wxl, to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8gUQponmRk
[22:34] <bennypr0fane> X-D
[22:34] <bennypr0fane> Jimi isn't happy about the waiting either
[22:36] <wxl> hehe
[22:36] <wilfredo_215>            bprompt             según lo que tu me indicas debo escribir en terminal: run "kdesudo gparted" ------tal cual como esta
[22:37] <wxl> !es | wilfredo_215
[22:37] <naxil__> hello
[22:37] <naxil__> amarok play mp3 with ubuntu-restricted-extras and not with the kubuntu one
[22:37] <wilfredo_215> as you indicate that I should write in terminal: run "gparted kdesudo" ------ just the way this
[22:38] <wxl> naxil__: is that a statement or a question?
[22:39] <wxl> wilfredo_215: you can do alt-f2 and then type it in, but the reverse: "kdesudo gparted" not "gparted kdesudo"
[22:39] <wxl> !sudo | wilfredo_215
[22:40] <bennypr0fane> wxl does it make sense do to this to speed it up? dd bs=2048 if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdh
[22:40] <wxl> bennypr0fane: i think that would work yeah
[22:42] <AjTee> hi, I can't find upgrade option from dvd
[22:42] <AjTee> where is it?
[22:42] <wxl> AjTee: you have to download the iso first
[22:43] <AjTee> I have an iso burned on dvd
[22:43] <AjTee> I have lauched it and tried to upgrade but..
[22:43] <AjTee> there is no option to upgrade
[22:43] <wxl> there should be an option to install at the grub screen. did you select it?
[22:43] <AjTee> where is this option before choosing a partitions or after this?
[22:44] <wxl> i think it's after if i remember correctly
[22:44] <AjTee> I don't want to risk
[22:44] <wxl> then make a backup
[22:44] <wxl> it'll confirm before you actually make changes to the drive
[22:45] <AjTee> it isn't before
[22:45] <bennypr0fane> logically, the option to choose "install" should come before it asks you where you want to install to, no?
[22:45] <AjTee> after choosing a network, addon updates, it shows a screen with choosing a partition and mount point
[22:46] <AjTee> there is no option to upgrade before this, so the only one way to upgrade is to do an upgrade through the Muon ?
[22:47] <AjTee> tell me plz
[22:49] <bennypr0fane> AjTee I'm googling for it now, can't find anything conclusive
[22:49] <bennypr0fane> AjTee, I say "wait until tomorrow"
[22:49] <wxl> AjTee: or if you're really impatient, make yourself a backup and go through the installer
[22:51] <AjTee> I don't want to install my huge number of applications and settings
[22:51] <bennypr0fane> Ajtee: here's some outdated information : http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-04-from-11-10-using-ubuntu-cd-dvd/
[22:52] <AjTee> Nvidia settings after upgrade will be saved? What problems can I meet after upgrading?
[22:52] <wxl> AjTee: you should have no problems
[22:52] <AjTee> yeah there is an option to upgrade on Ubuntu, but on Kubuntu - not
[22:52] <bennypr0fane> if the installer is still the same, the option to upgrade should come *after* you choose install
[22:53] <AjTee> after choosing a partions to install and formatting them?
[22:53] <bennypr0fane> well, that's the cross we non-mainstreamers have to bear
[22:53] <wxl> oh the unbearable weight
[22:53] <bennypr0fane> AjTee I don't think so. Don't do it. Wait until tomorrow
[22:54]  * wxl rolls his eyes
[22:54] <bennypr0fane> :-D
[22:54] <AjTee> ok cool, maybe I have a problems with source.list, and update doesn't work for me?
[22:55] <bprompt> AjTee:     hmm tried at the console yet?   ->    sudo apt-get update
[22:55] <bprompt> if any errors, it'd show there
[22:56] <wxl> AjTee: i don't know how to put your mind at ease. but i'm trying to tell you, for the last time, you should have no problems. if that doesn't work for you, i'd either recommend experimenting or i'd recommend not doing anything.
[22:56] <wxl> bprompt: update will not get him a new version ;)
[22:56] <bprompt> hehe
[22:56] <bprompt> true.... just will update and if any errors would show them
[22:57] <wxl> bprompt: it's not going to tell him if he's going to have errors updating with the DVD
[22:57] <wxl> bprompt: all it does is tell him if there's errors connecting to the mirrors and downloading package information. that's it.
[22:57] <AjTee> result: http://wklej.org/id/1335897/
[22:57] <bprompt> AjTee:    though I'd say backing up is a good idea, distribution upgrades don't quite always go as smooth as intended, and if something breaks you may end up installing anyway, and if it goes ok, you can just get rid of the image/backup
[22:58] <bennypr0fane> AjTee the only way to make kinda sure of anything is to make a decent backup first. use clonezilla
[22:58] <AjTee> I don't want to install my whole amount of appsagain, will wait for upgrade through muon
[22:59] <bennypr0fane> ...and make a backup first
[22:59] <AjTee> alternative testing releases - 20140415-trusty NOT_AVAILABLE
[22:59] <AjTee> from Clonezilla web
[23:01] <AjTee> I have installed newer version of KDE, shuold this action provide a problem with upgrade?
[23:05] <AjTee> wil wait to tommorow and check again, bye bye
[23:16] <m_tadeu> hi....where's the best place to ask about kdeconnect?
[23:18] <bprompt> hmm... technically I'd say here, dunno, unless is a development question
[23:18] <bprompt> though I dunno or use kdeconnect afaik
[23:19] <m_tadeu> bprompt: it's actually how to build it in14.04
[23:23] <wilfredo> hola nuevamente, es un honor volver a poder estar con ustedes, parece que en la parte de español estan muy ocupados y ustedes a pesar de tener mucho trabajo han podido ayudarme, estoy muy agradecido, sin embargo no he podido abrir gparted todavia, lo instale con centro de software muon, ya instalado no ejecuta, si alguien puede ayudarme le agradeceria, todavia no lo he podido abrir como administrador por que no se manejar TERMIN
[23:23] <wilfredo> hello again, it is an honor again to be with you, it seems that part of Spanish are very busy and you despite having a lot of work have been able to help me, I am grateful, however I could not open gparted yet, install muon software center, already installed is not running, if anyone can help would appreciate, I have not yet been able to open as administrator will not handle TERMINAL
[23:24] <bprompt> m_tadeu:    http://xmodulo.com/2014/01/integrate-android-kde-linux-desktop.html
[23:24] <bprompt> wilfredo:   if  you go to the console and run -> sudo gparted   <--- does it run?
[23:25] <m_tadeu> bprompt: thanx, but I was already following that....just it's only to build on 13.10 or lower
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[23:27] <bprompt> m_tadeu:    seems to me it'd be the same, the only difference I'd think is that the packages for the essential/kde/qt will come from the 14.04 version
[23:28] <bprompt> m_tadeu:    and if you're missing something, usually the cmake will give the errors showing what package maybe missing
[23:28] <m_tadeu> bprompt: yeah it's finally building....seems I had qt5 packages installed, and it was getting messed up by that
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[23:37] <bprompt> wilfredo:     I'd think it'd be in the Muon software center, or just do -> sudo apt-get install skype; in the konsole
[23:39] <bennypr0fane> wxl, so I should unmount the flash drive before running dd, yes?
[23:41] <wilfredo> You can make video calls to any operating system kubuntu, I for one do not think it's impossible you just have to know how to do, in my case I do not
[23:41] <bennypr0fane> m_tadeu, why'd y<ou build it from source anway, why not just install the binary?
[23:41] <wxl> bennypr0fane: yeppers
[23:43] <bprompt> wilfredo:      well, skype does just that
[23:43] <m_tadeu> bennypr0fane: the packaged version in 14.04 is not working properly...so I was checking if the latest stuff would
[23:44] <bennypr0fane> m_tadeu, good to know... and, does it?
[23:44] <m_tadeu> bennypr0fane: nop :)
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> m_tadeu, crap
[23:45] <bennypr0fane> well it's all shiny and new and probably still full of bugs anyway
[23:45] <m_tadeu> bennypr0fane: trying to check the code for some logging....any idea where it logs to?
[23:46] <bennypr0fane> sorry, no
[23:46] <wilfredo> got no muon software center, but I'll try from terminal, again thank you very much bprompt
[23:46] <bennypr0fane> m_tadeu, haven't even tried using it yet
[23:46] <bennypr0fane> better just wait for the next release
[23:47] <bprompt> k
[23:49] <chachan> I'm back. Everything looks good so far :)
[23:50] <wilfredo> intente e n terminal y dice: no se ha podido localizar el paquete skype, que debo hacer ?
[23:51] <wilfredo> try in terminal and says it has not been able to locate the skype package, what should I do?
[23:52] <bprompt> wilfredo:      sudo apt-get install skype  <---- ?
[23:55] <chachan> wilfredo: I used to download it from the official site, but I believe the current package is the same version
[23:56] <chachan> does anyone has the arguments sent to chromium to start in background?
[23:56] <chachan> I used to add this at startup but I'm not being able to do it automatically anymore
[23:58] <Rocco-_> eey
[23:59] <wilfredo> typed out: sudo apt-get install skype <----? and displays the following message: No such file or directory