[00:00] <altaryBeastiful_> or should I go on #ubuntu already ;)
[00:01] <altaryBeastiful_> because I got unity rashing at startup
[00:01] <altaryBeastiful_> looking from logs it's unity-panel-service segfaulting away
[00:01] <altaryBeastiful_> Where should I look for more info on this ?
[00:01] <altaryBeastiful_> (bug report with full dumps : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1308791)
[00:07] <JackW> When the new release is going to come out ?
[00:07] <JackW> I can't wait
[00:13] <rww> JackW: probably sometime on the 17th
[00:48] <jesper__> hello
[00:49] <jesper__> I am wondering if there is some way to force the kde taskmanger panel plugin to keep applications in a fixed position
[00:49] <jesper__> I am using the "Show a launcher when not running" option on some apps
[00:50] <jesper__> works great except that when it launches an application it moves the icon to the bottom of the list
[00:54] <holstein> jesper__: probably have to ask in the #kubuntu channel, or a kde specfic one
[00:56] <gshmu> I'm waiting for you 14.04
[00:56] <holstein> yeah? im not
[01:55] <guesting> I just wanted to see if anyone else is having this problem with 14.04: I have the numix icon theme, gtk theme, and a wallpaper. Sometimes when I boot up the computer, the theme for some reason goes back to the default theme, the icons go back to the default icons, and the wallpaper gets tiny (I am using hidpi and it should fill the screen). Does this happen to anyone else? Is it a dconf issue?
[01:56] <guesting> I should mention that I am using unity tweak, but the wallpaper is set by unity.
[03:02] <patdk-lap> anyone have >1 video card working?
[03:02] <patdk-lap> or xinerana seems to cause ubuntu to crash
[03:10] <quem> anyone using ubuntu gnome?
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> quem: better to ask your issue mate
[03:12] <quem> yeah, i know, sorry. just curious whether users have had any hiccups with it yet.
[03:12] <quem> considering putting it on my wife's laptop.
[03:37] <kupo_> anyone else still having issue with synaptic?
[03:37] <kupo_> like after doing remove or whatever. all the fonts are old till you scroll over them?
[03:38] <kupo_> like. click something for complete removal and the list goes to the top till you scroll over. weird display issue
[03:40] <andygraybeal> i'm sure it' sbeen asked a million times, but is this one gonna have btrfs?
[03:41] <rww> as default? no
[03:48] <patdk-lap> btrfs has been in it, forever
[03:48] <patdk-lap> since, what, 11.04?
[03:49] <kupo_> no one else having that synaptic issue? doing it on 2 of my pc's
[03:49] <kupo_> well. you must be having the issue. nvm heh
[03:52] <phuh> 14.04 sucks or rocks
[03:59] <holstein> phuh: its free to download and see for one's self
[04:00] <phuh> holstein: but it's not downloadable anywhere :'(
[04:00] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[04:00] <rww> which is in /topic :P
[04:02] <TriJetScud> I wonder if the 17th is the set-in-stone release date for 14.04
[04:02] <rww> TriJetScud: It's released when it's ready. It tends to be ready on release day.
[04:03] <TriJetScud> well, it's release day anyways in a couple of hours :P
[04:05] <kieppie> !release
[04:05] <kieppie> !ETA
[04:06] <rww> kieppie: Ubuntu 14.04 will be released when it's ready, which will probably be some time on the 17th. There is no set time. You can party in #ubuntu-release-party if you'd like to hang out with us in the meantime :)
[04:06] <andygraybeal> cool thanks
[04:06] <kieppie> cheers. already late-afternnon of 17th here in NZ - eager to get LTS loded
[05:50] <carlnunes> :-)
[05:56] <dotDeb> What are 14.04's new features gonna be?
[05:58] <MooDoo> dotDeb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/7-ubuntu-14-04-lts-improvements-youll-love
[05:58] <MooDoo> have a look at this from omgubuntu
[05:59] <dotDeb> thx moodoo
[05:59] <MooDoo> :)
[06:01] <dotDeb> hmm, those are all cool
[06:06] <jubiii> what's up with all the oversized images?
[06:08] <dotDeb> jubiii they seem ok to me?
[06:50] <stxaBe> in kubuntu 14.04, it uses Qt 4.8.6. what is means?
[07:06] <hyde> stxaBe: note that Qt 5.2 is also available (and quite likely Qt3 as well). Qt major versions can be considered different libs, independent of each others.
[07:07] <hyde> stxaBe: so it means, Qt 4 version of 14.04 is that
[07:07] <stxaBe> so, it's special only for Trusty, isn't it?
[07:09] <Blue1> has trusty been officially released or is that still pending for later in the day?
[07:09] <ikonia> still pending
[07:10] <Blue1> thanks
[07:11] <Blue1> ahh okay doing the daily updates now...
[07:23] <Blue1> wow I've never seen this before:  Unpacking linux-image-extra-3.13.0-24-generic (3.13.0-24.46) ...  what is linux-image-extra?
[07:30] <n4uah> anyone here?
[07:31] <ikonia> yes
[07:32] <n4uah> where u from?
[07:32] <n4uah> anyone from canonical?
[07:32] <ikonia> just ask the question
[07:34] <Koma> what is the answer to life the universe and everything
[07:34] <n4uah> nah
[07:34] <ikonia> n4uah: if you have a question regarding 14.10, just ask it,
[07:35] <n4uah> when it releases.?
[07:35] <gshmu> nearly Just 14.04
[07:35] <Faux> You can already upgrade to it, and have been able to for about five months!  Jeez, these people.
[07:35] <ikonia> n4uah: it will be released in october 2014
[07:35] <rww> n4uah: when it's ready, as we've told you
[07:36] <gshmu> do not set time
[07:36] <ikonia> oh, I thought he was asking about 14.10 based on the comments in #ubuntu
[07:36] <ikonia> sorry
[07:36] <gshmu> yeah wait 6 month
[07:36] <TriJetScud> rww: :P it is scheduled today ya know for 14.04
[07:36] <n4uah> some one says that it releases today?
[07:36] <ikonia> it is today
[07:37] <rww> TriJetScud: Sure, and it will probably be sometime today.
[07:37] <mpmc> Hey all, running 1404 here, works great but I've noticed that audio playback is distorted when at 100% any tips as to what I can do to improve it?
 u came here? :P :P
[07:37] <gshmu> n4uah: 14.04 today not  14.10
[07:37] <ikonia> n4uah: I came here ?
[07:37] <TriJetScud> talking about 14.04, the real pita I find about it is the way how it sets the network and hostname info
[07:37] <TriJetScud> ot
[07:37] <TriJetScud> it
[07:37] <ikonia> TriJetScud: how does it set it ?
[07:37] <TriJetScud> it's not using the traditional /etc/network/interfaces flat format to set all the NIC's
[07:37] <TriJetScud> and /etc/resolv.conf is handled by systemd
[07:37] <ikonia> I thought it just used either static files or network manager the same as every other release
[07:38] <ikonia> errr no
[07:38] <ikonia> 14.04 is still upstart
[07:38] <TriJetScud> in 14.04 that's what I see
[07:38] <n4uah> its a suggestion to the cloud based ubuntu
[07:38] <TriJetScud> etc/resolv.conf is handled by something on /run/etc/resolv.conf
[07:38] <n4uah> why it choses the birds name?
[07:38] <n4uah> why dont *
[07:38] <ikonia> TriJetScud: resolv.conf is handled by dnsmasq
[07:39] <TriJetScud> and those changes can cause issues if I want to deploy Ubuntu 14.04 on a VMM based cloud as it still provisions stuff in the Ubuntu 12.04 style
[07:39] <TriJetScud> but meh, changing that stuff is easy abyhow
[07:39] <TriJetScud> :P
[07:39] <ikonia> TriJetScud: I'm not really sure what you are talking about, as far as I can see 14.04 handles networking the same as other ubuntu releases
[07:40] <ikonia> network manager / static files
[07:40] <ikonia> I don't see a difference
[07:40] <TriJetScud> ikonia: go tell that to scvmmguestagent
[07:40] <ikonia> TriJetScud: what ?
[07:40] <gshmu> i don't got mail``` t_t
[07:40] <ikonia> it's easier if you don't talk in riddles
[07:40] <TriJetScud> it can't handle the new /etc/network/interfaces.d/*.cfg format ikonia
[07:41] <TriJetScud> ikonia: scvmmguestagent is a piece of binary written by microsoft and it's sole purpose is to parse an XML file that contains the virtual machine's root password, ssh pub key for root, IP addresses, hostnames and any firstrun commands it needs to do
[07:42] <ikonia> TriJetScud: ok ?
[07:42] <TriJetScud> and usually where you would see scvmmguestagent is having VMM manage VMware ESXi, Hyper-V servers and XenServers
[07:43] <TriJetScud> although on the surface you could possibly use WALinuxAgent (which btw, is the cloud guest agent for Microsoft Azure), but really what it does is call scvmmguestagent and runs away
[07:43] <ikonia> I've never used scvmmguestagent as I don't use the microsoft virtual platforms very much
[07:43] <ikonia> but again, I'm not seeing what's changed that's a problem
[07:47] <angch> shoot. adb devices can't see my android devices after upgrading to 14.04
[07:58] <angch> ok, that was an android issue, not ubuntu
[07:58] <angch> fixed: turn off and on developer options.
[08:04] <n4uah> what about the ubuntu mobile os?
[09:00] <Quitifolen> hi
[09:37] <soheilsh> hi guys! :) when is trusty gonna be released?!
[09:44] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[09:45] <BluesKaj> are we there yet? :)
[09:45] <sydneyJDykstra> What time is it being released?
[09:45] <BluesKaj> no idea
[09:47] <BluesKaj> sydneyJDykstra, ask in  #ubuntu-release-party
[09:49] <albus_dumbledore> is it released yet?
[09:50] <sydneyJDykstra> No
[10:04] <dawnk_> when is 14.04 is available for download?
[10:05] <sydneyJDykstra> sometime later today. they havent officially allowed it yet.
[10:06] <snadge> very exciting!
[10:08] <albus_dumbledore> I can't wait!! Really.... I am excited
[10:11] <sydneyJDykstra> Well settle down,you have FIVE years to install and use it. ;)
[10:11] <snadge> i just updated my three 14.04 machines in anticipation :p
[10:11] <snadge> im using it already.. because im impatient
[10:12] <front243> Lubuntu 14.04 seems to be up on their homepage in case somebody use it
[10:12] <dawnk_> I'm using 14.04, but I'm plannign to change to xubuntu as soon as the official release is announced
[10:13] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:13] <sydneyJDykstra> I need them to upgrade their graphic driver before I can upgrade.
[10:14] <dawnk_> Is anyone able to open xubuntu homepage?
[10:14] <dawnk_> xubuntu.org/
[10:15] <dawnk_> I think we are DDoS-ing it.
[10:16] <sydneyJDykstra> I cannot.
[10:17] <snadge> i like unity.. i personally think its what gnome 3 should have been
[10:17] <snadge> pedantic correction.. what gnome shell should have been like
[10:18] <sydneyJDykstra> unity preforms awful on my system,so I switched to gnome and I love it!!
[10:18] <snadge> i honestly think, all things considered, unity is a less jarring change from gnome 2 shell.. all the shortcuts are preserved, plus the new ones which make sense for that kind of interface
[10:18] <n4uah> but i like gnome 2
[10:18] <n4uah> :D
[10:18] <dawnk_> unity looks better than gnome 3, but I prefer xfce
[10:19] <snadge> gnome flashback, is also excellent.. and as far as im aware, ubuntu is one of the few distros to include it
[10:19] <snadge> you should try gnome flashback if you liked gnome 2
[10:19] <n4uah> the gome shell have some problem with the amd gpu
[10:20] <sydneyJDykstra> its everyones opinion ;) It has way more options than windows.
[10:20] <snadge> fair enough.. if you have an amd gpu, you might get some like from fglrx-updates
[10:20] <n4uah> finally using xfce
[10:20] <n4uah> already done it.
[10:22] <sydneyJDykstra> I have a Nvida card,that the noveau drivers of trusty beta are not compatable with at the seccond. I am waiting for them to fix that. I can use every other version though.
[10:25] <sydneyJDykstra> I have used unity,unity 2d,openbox,gnome,gnome classic,and lxde. All on one install,I can swithc any time. Like to see Windows do that. Windows you are stuck with one enviroment.
[10:26] <n4uah> in windows even we can change the theme.what about the mac users?
[10:27] <sydneyJDykstra> Mac you cannot really do anything,as far as I know.
[10:33] <captine> hi all.  14.04 running and installed the google + icon (webapp) in unity.  using it and logging in gives me an error stating my browser is no longer supported????  http://imgur.com/shney4s
[10:33] <tarzeau_> hahaha
[10:34] <tarzeau_> how lame is that
[10:37] <tarzeau_> i got this one: Error while merging /usr/share/doc-base/kino-en with /usr/share/doc-base/kino-fr: format html already defined.
[10:57] <Ergo> is it out yet? ;-)
[10:57] <ikonia> no
[10:58] <Ergo> lol no bot auto-reply?
[10:58] <Ergo> im disappointed :( it was a tradition
[11:06] <dw1> !isitoutyet
[11:07] <dw1> !isitoutyet Ergo
[11:07] <dw1> !isitoutyet
[11:07] <Ergo> lol, its still missing warning that every question delays release a bit
[11:08] <dw1> captine: what browser is that?  get https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[11:08] <dw1> Ergo: lol
[11:10] <dw1> Ergo: it was giving a different message before.....
[11:11] <dw1> Ergo: ahh I was on #ubuntu-release-party before :)
[11:13] <BluesKaj> some party, full of users/trolls, hating MS ...typical
[11:14] <Ergo> BluesKaj: thats the beauty of it
[11:15] <Ergo> i could start trolling how ubuntu sucks shipping xubuntu with broken sound indicator :P not fixed for 3 months
[11:15] <Ergo> but it got boring fast
[11:15] <Ergo> :-)
[11:15] <BluesKaj> really Ergo ? well you're welcome to it....entirely predictable and boring :)
[11:17] <dw1> so.. i had disabled two finger right click on 13.xx by setting up a script containing "synclient TapButton2=0" and adding the path to the script to the system with: gsettings set org.gnome.settings-daemon.peripherals.input-devices hotplug-command  "/path/to/file.sh" - but now it doesnt seem to be applied automatically.  synclient -l | grep Tap shows me the setting is not set. Does this method not work anymore?
[11:19] <dw1> the command is still in hotplug-command.. but doesnt run.  guess ill add it to a startup script......
[11:30] <ernetas> Hey guys.
[11:30] <ernetas> Is there an estimate at which hour will 14.04 will be released?
[11:34] <sydneyJDykstra> No
[11:36] <paul___> Hello, I've a problem after resuming my Laptop (Thinkpad X230) from sleep in xubuntu trusty beta. I can see the lockscreen, but after entering my password the screen is black. Switching VTY works, but the display brightness is tuned all the way down. Going back to VTY 7 it still shows a black screen, and using brightness controls does nothing. This is intel (i915) hardware. Anyone has an idea :-) Thanks
[11:37] <albus_dumbledore> bye Naxiz
[11:38] <BluesKaj> paul___, did you try Fn with the brightness key ?
[11:40] <paul___> BluesKaj, yes, but it did not work. I also tried chvt 7 && sleep 1 && cat nnnn > /sys/class/backlight/.../brightness, but it didn't work
[11:40] <paul___> (from VTY1)
[11:41] <paul___> I'm not sure this is a brightness problem, maybe it's just a coincidence
[11:41] <ernetas> sydneyJDykstra: then... 17th of April - which timezone does it have in mind?
[11:42] <sydneyJDykstra> I don't know. It is a suprise.
[11:42] <BluesKaj> paul___, unfortunately I just discovered that the brightness key no longer woks here either...Lenovo G500 with Kubuntu 14.04
[11:43] <paul___> BluesKaj, my brightness keys do work normally
[11:45] <paul___> BluesKaj,  I think it's a problem with the new locking/suspend mechanism in XFCE. In 14.04 it's something with locking replaced with a lightdm based lockscreen
[11:45] <BluesKaj> paul___, there's a working brightmess ctrl with the battery widget in the system tray on kde
[11:46] <BluesKaj> or power management for deskyop pcs
[11:46] <BluesKaj> err desktop
[11:49] <paul___> Well, this sounds KDE-specific ;)
[11:49] <paul___> As I said, my brightness controls do work, and cat'ing a value into /sys also works
[11:50] <paul___> I can control screen brightness on VTY with it, and this should also change brightness on the X VTY
[11:56] <paul____> Sorry, I disconnected
[11:58] <BluesKaj> paul____, yeah software rather than HW control, but it works
[11:58] <BluesKaj> oops
[12:02] <BiorB> hi
[12:06] <paul____> BluesKaj, I'm pretty sure now it's not a brightness issue.
[12:06] <paul____> Anyone using XFCE with intel hardware?
[12:06] <captine> dw1 i have firefox as my default
[12:07] <captine> chromium is also installed.
[12:09] <joumetal> paul____ possibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[12:11] <dw1> captine: weirdness
[12:15] <captine> dw1, yip
[12:16] <Ergo> lol, a nice bug a good starting experience for fresh install
[12:18] <lind> Anyword on when release will be?
[12:20] <dw1> Ergo: what bug
[12:20] <Ergo> ttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[12:20] <Ergo> this one
[12:21] <Ergo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736
[13:18] <xenny> When will the official url be released?
[13:20] <ar> when it's done, i guess
[13:38] <spaes>  i've been on 12.04 with gnome 2/classic, but I want to try both Unity and Gnome Shell with this next release. is it reasonable to think I will be able to install the default flavor to try unity, and then add gnome shell via the repositories later? they say ubuntu gnome is "pure". I'm just wondering if one flavor would be more optimal for starting with, given that I'd like to test both unity and gnome
[13:40] <patdk-wk> you have the option of both
[13:41] <patdk-wk> but gnome2 doesn't exist in 12.04
[13:41] <euryale> how do i add user permission to my account?
[13:42] <euryale> i need to run vbox but it needs permission.
[13:42] <spaes> patdk-wk: maybe it isn't strictly gnome 2, but it has the feel of it anyway. i'm using gnome-session-fallback or whatever that package is called
[13:43] <MannerMan> #ubuntu-release-party
[13:43] <MannerMan> wops
[13:43] <spaes> patdk-wk: thanks though, that is helpful to know i can choose either flavor
[13:43] <patdk-wk> spaes, yep, and in 14.04 it's called gnome-session-flashback
[13:43] <patdk-wk> I can pick from all 3 on my 14.04 system
[13:43] <spaes> patdk-wk: awesome, that is great to know
[13:44] <patdk-wk> flashback is different though
[13:44] <patdk-wk> it's actually is being developed, unlike gnome-panel that died
[13:45] <rberg_> rohan: I was running 'svn co' and 'svn log --diff' when I got the segfaults.. nothing to odd
[14:01] <euryale> is there a channel for linux kernel?
[14:04] <MooDoo> euryale: #ubuntu-kernel?
[14:04] <MooDoo> euryale: have you seen this? - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:07] <euryale> @MooDoo thanks.
[14:08] <euryale> im currently in the kernel channel, i hope someone can help me there.
[14:10] <euryale> can i downgrade a kernel version from 3.14 to 3.13?
[14:14] <patdk-wk> euryale, sure, probably won't be too much fun
[14:14] <euryale> what do u mean?
[14:15] <patdk-wk> well, you going need to locate that kernel
[14:15] <patdk-wk> install it
[14:15] <patdk-wk> and then force grub to use it
[14:15] <patdk-wk> and you won't be getting security patches for it
[14:15] <euryale> oh, it's gonna be complicated and im a simple person lol
[14:16] <euryale> im having problem running vbox with the kernel 3.14 installed.
[14:24] <rberg_> euryale: often you need to patch the vbox drivers when using very new kernels
[14:26] <euryale> @rberg. where can i download the patch?
[14:27] <robotti^> What time Ubuntu will be released today?
[14:27] <sydneyJDykstra> We don't know
[14:29] <sydneyJDykstra> Everyone. We do not know when ubuntu Trusty will officially  be out. We know it will be sometime today.
[14:29] <aclffrd> robotti^: if you join the mailing list you'll get notified
[15:10] <SuperLag> My guess: UTC 23:59:59, so they can say it was released on the scheduled date... but still do it at the last possible minute. ;)
[15:12] <mathuin> My beta machine no longer says beta or development branch, so I'm good.  Thanks for another mostly-successful-for-me-at-least release. :-)
[15:29] <sydneyJDykstra> Ubuntu 14.04 is Not officially out yet.
[15:30] <dennis97519> Dijkstra
[15:31] <sydneyJDykstra> ;)
[15:46] <quem> hmm, trying to figure out how i'd go about making ssh/bash spawn with higher niceness by default.
[15:48] <kvess> I've never done a distro upgrade before, but am running 12.04 right now. Will I have to upgrade to 13.x before going to 14.04, or is it likely to be a one step process?
[15:48] <bekks> you can update directly from 12.04 to 14.04
[15:49] <kvess> Thanks. I was hoping that.
[15:50] <michagogo|cloud> (that's normally not the case except when going from one LTS to the next)
[15:51] <frew> I thought 14.04 was supposed to be out today; is it coming out later today or something?
[15:51] <holstein> frew: its not out yet.. but, there is still time in the day, so please relax
[15:51] <holstein> !isitout
[15:52] <frew> holstein: sure; I just figured I'd start getting packages downloaded during lunch and do-release-upgrade didn't offer it
[15:52] <frew> I just wanted to make sure I wasn't doing something wrong.
[16:01] <michagogo|cloud> frew: I think you can do-release-upgrade -d
[16:02] <michagogo|cloud> or something like that
[16:19] <mikel6322> if i install 14.04 over 13.10 will it replace the efi i have for 13.10 or just add another one
[16:20] <mikel6322> *bootloader
[16:22] <imghost> hi any one upgraded? and using dual boot with 8.1?
[16:25] <Blueskai> mikel6322, just do, sudo do-release-upgrade after the official release
[16:26] <michagogo|cloud> Or, sudo do-release-upgrade -d now
[16:27] <michagogo|cloud> (if I'm not mistaken)
[16:30] <Blueskai> michagogo|cloud, yes that works too
[16:39] <riverloop> Hi, anyone has this weird problem? http://s3.postimg.org/5gv9i1f0z/Screenshot_from_2014_04_17_21_58_20.png
[16:43] <riverloop> I don't have window borders in LibreOffice Writer.
[16:43] <riverloop> What may be the problem? Anyone experiencing the same issue?
[16:43] <riverloop> Everything works fine with Impress and Calc.
[16:44] <WiredSlash> Ubuntu 14.04 released or not ??
[16:44] <ikonia> nope
[16:44] <riverloop> Not yet.
[16:44] <sakang> it is, look at distrowatch
[16:44] <ikonia> as I've just told you in #ubuntu
[16:44] <ikonia> distro watch is not ubuntu
[16:47] <sakang> http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[16:58] <frew> michagogo|cloud: well, I was hoping to wait till it was considered released officially :)
[17:07] <rewbycraft> How long until this channel officially stops being about 14.04?
[17:10] <lordievader> rewbycraft: Until Trusty is released.
[17:10] <rewbycraft> Ah.
[17:10] <rewbycraft> I was thinking either that or whenever the new builds started coming out for 14.10.
[17:17] <Seven_Six_Two> Are loco teams receiving install media? Have they already gone out?
[17:19] <rewbycraft> Pretty sure the isos aren't out yet. The #ubuntu-release-party is going nuts about that right now.
[17:20] <minas> is 14.04 officially released? seems my 13.10 can't find the upgrade
[17:21] <holstein> minas: no
[17:21] <holstein> !itisout
[17:21] <holstein> !isitout
[17:21] <minas> tomorrow then :)
[17:25] <harsesus> For playing  wmv, mplayer works, vlc and totem core dump, each show a respective .so segfault (for vlc libvlccore.so.7.0.0, for totem, libgstlibav.so), ubuntu 14.04, vlc 2.1.3 (and 2.2), gstreamer1.0-libav 1.2.3-1... what next step should I take to figure out what is causing this??
[17:25] <rewbycraft> I would say have you installed libavcodec-extra-54 ?
[17:25] <harsesus> I have indeed.
[17:26] <rewbycraft> Personally I'd say run it through gdb and see what's crashing.
[17:28] <harsesus> as I said, gdb reported libvlccore.so.7.0.0.so segfaulted for vlc, and for totem libgstlibav.so (a component of gstreamer1.0-libav ) also segfaulted
[17:28] <rewbycraft> I meant backtrace it. Could've been more clear, sorry.
[17:29] <harsesus> how would I do that.
[17:29] <rewbycraft> Make sure vlc-dbg is installed and issue "bt" (no quotes) in gdb after the vlc process crashes.
[17:30] <rewbycraft> The extra vlc package is so that gdb can get some meaningfull names in the backtrace.
[17:32] <harsesus> I have the dbg installed, now I know what to do with it, nice... I will report back =)
[17:33] <Deacon_> Hi, will this bug be fixed with the official release : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/1257186 ?
[17:34] <rewbycraft> Pretty sure. Unless somebody fixes, rebuilds and pushes it in the next 30 minutes.
[17:34] <ChrisSc> hi everybody
[17:35] <Deacon_> Thanks
[17:35] <ChrisSc> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 LTS on a new j1900 board
[17:35] <ChrisSc> it crashes every few days with a BUG "unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference"
[17:35] <ChrisSc> and "xhci_find_new_unqueue_state"
[17:36] <ChrisSc> I've found a patch which converts the BUG() to a WARN() but I dont know how to apply it
[17:36] <ChrisSc> any help would be appreciated :)
[17:37] <rewbycraft> Can you figure out where it's happening?
[17:37] <rewbycraft> The BUG i mean.
[17:37] <ChrisSc> not really, its a headless machine
[17:38] <ChrisSc> once it has crashed, I can see the text in the console, but I cannot tell what happend prior to the crash
[17:39] <ChrisSc> 0x00...3fc and "xhci_find_new_dequeue_state" is the onyl thing i cam memorize atm
[17:39] <rewbycraft> Nothing in the logs?
[17:40] <ChrisSc> i'no that fluent in *nix, if you can tell me where to lokk, i'll gladly help you out with more info
[17:41] <rewbycraft> /var/log/kern.log
[17:41] <rewbycraft> You'll need to sudo to read it.
[17:42] <harsesus> I'm a bit confused on a backtrace... i entered "gdb /usr/bin/vlc 2>~/Desktop/test.wmv | tee ~/gdb-vlc.txt"  is that correct?
[17:42] <ChrisSc> got it
[17:42] <Briuie> swap partition is mandatory in Ubuntu 14.04?
[17:42] <ChrisSc> is it safe to pastebinit?
[17:43] <rewbycraft> harsesus: No. You run it as "gdb /usr/bin/vlc". Then you enter "run" in the console. Then you browse to the file and open it via the gui. Once it crashes you enter "bt" on the console and you get the backtrace.
[17:43] <rewbycraft> ChrisSc: Should be.
[17:43] <harsesus> ok, got it
[17:44] <harsesus> derp
[17:44] <ChrisSc> rewbycraft: here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7269613/
[17:45] <ChrisSc> see line 21185 (Today 14:40)
[17:46] <ChrisSc> starting at Apr 17 14:39:41 to be precise
[17:46] <rewbycraft> ChrisSc: Are you using USB on the machine?
[17:46] <ChrisSc> yeb, for two sundtek tuners, a cardreader and currently a keyboard
[17:48] <rewbycraft> Gimme a min. Gotta trawl the kernel source for a bit.
[17:48] <rewbycraft> Does it actually crash the machine or just the usb stuff?
[17:49] <ChrisSc> dunno, maybe /drivers/usb/host/xhci-ring.c helps
[17:49] <ChrisSc> it crashes the whole machine, at least its stuck in terminal with no services reacting
[17:50] <rewbycraft> Hmm... A BUG shouldn't be doing that.
[17:51] <ChrisSc> xhci-ring.c offers the named method in lines 479ff
[17:51] <ChrisSc> there is already a patch converting these bugs to WARNs
[17:51] <ChrisSc> althoug its dated back to Jan 2011
[17:51] <rewbycraft> Give me a sec to DL the source. A 110MB dl takes a bit.
[17:52] <ChrisSc> okay, thanks
[17:52] <rewbycraft> I've only started using 14.04 as my main last week so I don't have all the stuff I want yet. The kernel src being one of them.
[17:53] <ChrisSc> maybe there are some relevant changes since the last devel till todays final?
[17:54] <rewbycraft> Dunno. I haven't had a kernel update in a while.
[18:05] <ChrisSc> would it be possible to unload the xhci-module? I dont need usb3-support, usb2 would be fine ;)
[18:05] <rewbycraft> Sure. sudo modprobe -r xhci-module
[18:06] <ChrisSc> this way usb would work was 2.0?
[18:06] <ChrisSc> *as
[18:06] <rewbycraft> Erm.. Let me check. I'm not even sure xhci-module is the name.
[18:06] <ChrisSc> xhci_hcd?
[18:06] <rewbycraft> Worth a shot.
[18:07] <rewbycraft> A reboot should reload it with the modprobe -r method
[18:07] <rewbycraft> Incase stuff breaks.
[18:07] <ChrisSc> server@Server:~$ sudo modprobe -r xhci_hcd
[18:07] <ChrisSc> modprobe: FATAL: Module xhci_hcd is builtin.
[18:07] <rewbycraft> Than no.
[18:07] <rewbycraft> You can't unload it.
[18:08] <ChrisSc> well, that would have been too easy...
[18:08] <rewbycraft> Heh.
[18:09] <rewbycraft> Well, I need to leave. IRL stuff. Sorry ChrisSc, maybe somebody in the channel more knowledgeable than me can help. See y'all later.
[18:09] <ChrisSc> 14.04 just got released
[18:10] <ChrisSc> gtg as well
[18:10] <ChrisSc> I'll check back later
[18:10] <harsesus> hey, I have the gdb output from vlc's dump, it isn't to large, shall I past it here or pastbin it?
[18:11] <trism> harsesus: pastebin
[18:13] <harsesus> here we go: http://pastebin.com/jUWFpcif
[18:16] <harsesus> I did one for totem as well, shall I past that
[18:18] <harsesus> here is the one for totem: http://pastebin.com/diL1XiZg
[18:22] <harsesus> some system info: ubuntu 14.04, vlc 2.1.3 and 2.2 both show the errors, gstreamer1.0-libav is @ 1.2.3-1
[18:23] <slimjimflim> hi, i'm on 12.10.  if i upgrade to 13.10 will i be able to then upgrade to 14.04?
[18:24] <holstein> slimjimflim: you go in order.. 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 .. i would backup and fresh install
[18:24] <slimjimflim> holstein: well i'm going straight from 12.10 to 13.10 now
[18:25] <holstein> slimjimflim: you shouldnt
[18:25] <slimjimflim> that was what the prompt told me to do
[18:25] <holstein> slimjimflim: however you are doing that will likely break your system, and after that you can fresh install to 14.04
[18:25] <slimjimflim> we'll see
[18:26] <slimjimflim> i'm just doing it through synaptic
[18:26] <michagogo|cloud> How exactly are you upgrading from a non-LTS and skipping a version?
[18:26] <holstein> slimjimflim: right.. thats going to likely brek things
[18:26] <holstein> break*
[18:26] <holstein> slimjimflim: you go in order, or from LTS to LTS, and should always have backups before starting
[18:26] <slimjimflim> michagogo|cloud: pointy clicky
[18:26] <michagogo|cloud> slimjimflim: What are you clicking? o_O
[18:27] <slimjimflim> michagogo|cloud: when i do updates it's given me the option to upgrade to 13.10 since i first installed
[18:27] <slimjimflim> to just now i said ok
[18:27] <slimjimflim> *so just now
[18:28] <michagogo|cloud> ...really?
[18:28] <michagogo|cloud> I thought it was only supposed to let you upgrade from one release to the next
[18:28] <slimjimflim> for realzies
[18:28] <michagogo|cloud> Also, not through synaptic
[18:28] <michagogo|cloud> through `update-manager`
[18:29] <slimjimflim> k that
[18:29] <slimjimflim> maybe it's going through both versions in one shot
[18:31] <harsesus> it looks like both backtrace, for totem and vlc, indicate a missing audio decoder
[18:40] <trism> harsesus: is only a single file crashing it? might try installing libav-tools and check: avconv -i on the video to see what the codecs are
[18:40] <harsesus> its any wmv
[18:40] <trism> harsesus: verbose output of vlc might tell you the same thing
[18:44] <trism> harsesus: just tried a random wmv here and it's working so probably not any wmv (unless I somehow have a lib you don't but this is a pretty clean install with vlc)
[18:45] <harsesus> I downloaded some garden variety sample wmvs, they all run just fine in mplayer, but both totem and vlc core dump
[18:54] <pmatulis> happy trusty day everybody
[18:56] <harsesus> cheers!
[19:02] <DJJeff> the file /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade is bugging out on line 4
[19:03] <DJJeff> when logging in via TTY1-6 (ctrl+alt+1)
[19:04] <harsesus> avconv reports the 2 sample files as audio: wma2 and the video: wmv3.
[19:09] <harsesus> mplayer, which can play any wmv, reports both as wma2 and wmv9
[19:10] <trism> DJJeff: have you upgraded lately? that bug was fixed a few days ago
[19:10] <DJJeff> oh not sure
[19:11] <DJJeff> I did $ sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -y
[19:11] <DJJeff> #ubuntu suggests to use the upgrade manager?????
[19:11] <DJJeff> I just get no new release found
[19:12] <trism> DJJeff: what is: apt-cache policy ubuntu-release-upgrader-core;
[19:12] <DJJeff> my /etc/apt/sources.list @ http://hastebin.com/janujotuha
[19:12] <DJJeff> nstalled: 1:0.220
[19:14] <DJJeff> gotta head out back in a couple hours :(
[19:14] <trism> DJJeff: yeah that is the old version, the mirror is probably outdated, would try one of the archive.ubuntu.com ones if you can
[19:14] <DJJeff> ok thanks
[19:15] <DJJeff> will try when I get home
[19:17] <dw1> goodbye for now +1
[19:17] <dw1> congrats on a job well done
[19:26] <Beldar> Is the official upgrade 12.04.4 to 14.04 actually meant to show at 14.04.1?
[19:26] <k1l> yes
[19:27] <k1l> that is when 14.04 will become a LTS (officially). until that its just a regular release.
[19:28] <Beldar> k1l, So how should we direct those excited to do this upgrade right now, or before, that 14.04.1 release?
[19:29] <k1l> explain that they gain the LTS standards when 14.04 got some time to settle and get a LTS with the .1 ,too
[19:29] <Beldar> you can upgrade fine now I guess is the question?
[19:29] <Beldar> k1l, I thought the explanation was crucial, thanks.
[19:29] <k1l> with -d it should work. but since there are some bugs to be sorted i would recommend to wait until its .1
[19:31] <Beldar> k1l, Sounds good, thanks again.
[19:31] <Primer61> my laptop is 2.1 GHz core 2 due with 2 GB rams .. i need a more speed performance .. shall i download ubuntu 32 bit or 64 bit?
[19:32] <k1l> use 64bit if your hardware is 64bit
[19:33] <Primer61> kil:can you give me link with main differences between 64 and 32 with data experiments?
[19:36] <k1l> Primer61: just use 64bit. its not only fr "if you got more than 4GB ram". see what 64bit is about
[19:37] <Primer61> kil: my processor is 2.1 GHz core 2 due and 2 GB rams
[19:37] <k1l> so its 64bit capable. install the 64bit iso
[19:38] <Primer61> ty kil .. i will download 64 :)
[19:40] <Briuie> bye
[19:48] <pmatulis> bye
[19:49] <slimjimflim> holstein: well the upgrade to 13.10 went off without a hitch
[19:50] <holstein> slimjimflim: congrats
[19:50] <holstein> slimjimflim: i did 3 fresh installs while you were rebooting ;)
[19:52] <slimjimflim> heh
[19:53] <slimjimflim> i'm still waiting for do-release-upgrade to be able to see 14.04 tho
[19:53] <holstein> slimjimflim: it wont
[19:53] <rww> you'll be waiting a while
[19:53] <slimjimflim> until when
[19:53] <holstein> slimjimflim: its being held til 14.04.1
[19:53] <rww> July
[19:53] <slimjimflim> balls
[19:54] <k1l> 24th july
[19:55] <slimjimflim> well at least i can close the lid on my laptop now and open it without the screen dying
[19:55] <slimjimflim> if this upgrade fixes the graphics crashing randomly too, i'll just wait i think
[19:56] <k1l> should there be a new kernel in the 12.04 enablement stack now? the 14.04 one?
[20:05] <kingyy> Hi, I am not seeing 14.04 lts when I do, do-release-upgrade (I am on 13.10). What gives?
[20:07] <k1l> kingyy: wait for servers to sync
[20:07] <kingyy> oh okay...
[20:13] <frew> huh, so I ran update-manager and it doesn't tell me that a new distribution is ready?
[20:13] <frew> is there something IN eed to turn on to fix that?
[20:14] <k1l> nope
[20:15] <frew> huh...
[20:15] <frew> wonder why it doesn't work
[20:15] <frew> I guess I could manually change the repos and use upgrade
[20:15] <k1l> see my answer some minutes ago
[20:17] <frew> k1l: I assumed do-release-upgrade and udate-manager weren't the same thing
[20:17] <frew> since https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes says to use update-manager to upgrade
[20:17] <frew> but ok
[20:17] <k1l> its 2 front ends for the same technic in background
[20:18] <frew> ok.
[20:18] <frew> so is the issue that servers are behind (What you said) or that it's not gonna work till july (what holstein said)
[20:18] <k1l> depends on your ubuntu you are on
[20:19] <frew> 13.10
[20:19] <k1l> then wait for the servers to get synced
[20:19] <frew> k1l: ok, thanks
[20:19] <frew> k1l: LTS is "wait for July?"
[20:20] <k1l> yes, from 12.04 to 14.04 is due to 24th july
[20:20] <frew> ok, thanks, sorry, don't mean to sound demanding, was mostly curious to inform coworkers
[20:49] <yunfan1> i
[20:57] <pmatulis> j
[21:05] <harsesus> Hey... I can't get vlc or totem to play wmv without crashing... coredump. I backtracked it.  Anyone know what would cause these two programs to both crash??? mplayer can play all my test wmv files fine.
[21:11] <harsesus> Here is VLC: http://pastebin.com/EYzzrF7d and totem: http://pastebin.com/diL1XiZg
[21:13] <harsesus> mplayer works and avconv shows they are wmv3 and wmav2
[21:14] <harsesus> I am on ubuntu 14.04, vlc 2.1.3 and 2.2 (same result), gstreamer1.0-libav 1.2.3-1
[21:35] <Blue1> is the trusty final out yet?
[21:36] <harsesus> it is on the website