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nlsthznHappy release day everyone :p05:39
Kilosmorning all05:41
Kilosis it happy release day today not_found ?05:42
nlsthznyup05:43
nlsthzn14.04 landing today05:43
Kiloshi jabberwocky9305:44
Kiloshi Spekko 05:44
Spekkomore Kilos05:44
jabberwocky93more Kilos05:44
* jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout05:45
Kilosmo05:45
Kilosmôre julle05:45
jabberwocky93Maaz: coffee on05:45
* Maaz flips the salt-timer05:45
KilosMaaz, coffee please05:45
MaazKilos: Sure05:45
KilosMaaz, with cremora05:46
MaazAh! At last someone with taste05:46
KilosMaaz, and milk05:46
MaazNow you're talking05:46
* Spekko takes it like a little b@#%05:48
SpekkoMaaz: Coffee on05:48
MaazSpekko: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup05:48
SpekkoMaaz Coffee please05:48
MaazSpekko: Sure05:48
MaazCoffee's ready for jabberwocky93, Kilos and Spekko!05:49
KilosMaaz, gracias amigo05:50
Maaz¡de nada compadre05:50
nlsthznhttp://www.pointerpointer.com/05:50
jabberwocky93Maaz, спасибо05:51
Maazjabberwocky93: Huh?05:51
Kiloswho is that nlsthzn 05:52
nlsthzndunno05:53
nlsthznthey are random pictures pointing to the pointer :p05:53
jabberwocky93ah yes cool site, I couldn't stop and looked at all of them05:56
nlsthznlol05:59
jabberwocky93in my private time at least :)06:00
Kiloslol06:06
theblazehenmorning06:19
Kiloshi theblazehen 06:19
theblazehenyo Golynx 06:29
Golynxhi theblazehen06:30
Kiloshi smile Golynx 06:32
smilehi :D06:32
smileyou missed my party, Kilos :p06:33
Golynxhi Kilos06:33
Golynxhey smile06:33
Kilossorry smile hope you enjoyed it06:33
Kilosthats what counts06:33
smileKilos: no worries, my birthday was great :)06:33
smilegf came to me ;)06:33
Kiloscool06:34
Kiloshaha06:34
smile:D we took photographs06:34
Kilosof what06:34
smileI have to select the best ones, though06:34
smileme & my gf :)06:34
Kiloslol06:34
smileIf I only had 2, life would be easy :p06:34
smileI have 68 :p06:34
Kiloswow06:35
smileyeah :p06:35
smilequite a few :p06:35
Kilosis that all you did all day06:35
smilethat was just an hour :D06:36
Kilosyou supposed to eat sweets and cake and stuff too06:36
smileI ate pie :D06:36
Kiloswhat pie06:36
smilefruit pie :p06:37
Kiloslekker06:37
smileja :p06:37
smilethere were strawberries on it ;)06:37
smilemelon too :p06:37
Kilosi grow my own strawberries06:37
smileand of course, whipped cream :)06:37
Kiloshehe06:38
smilewe used to have a lot of strawberries :( the gardener thought it was weed, so he removed everything06:38
smileit will take years again to grow like it was before06:38
Kiloslol06:38
smileI like them, they're gone now :(06:39
smileanyway, we buy them now. but we used to have kilo-s of them, now only a few gram :D06:39
Kiloslol06:39
Kiloskill the gardener06:40
smileno, he has done good work too ;)06:40
smileI don't blame him, but I was a bit disappointed at first06:40
Kilosthen just hit him about the head a bit06:40
smileHe was too06:40
Kilosand pat him on the back for the good work06:40
smileImagine, you clean up the garden and they're not happy06:41
smileI'm afraid he's stronger than me :D06:41
Kiloswalk softly and carry a big stick06:41
Golynxput some ants in his pants lol06:41
Kiloslol06:41
smileGolynx: lol :D06:42
smileI guess I can live with it ;)06:42
Kilosjust buy one plant man it will spread06:44
Kilosafter baring they send out runners to make new plants06:45
smileI have a few left :p06:46
smileI think they will grow again06:46
smile:)06:46
smileand spread ;)06:46
smilenew ones aren't better necessarily06:46
smile(they can be quite small)06:47
smileit only looks awful now :D06:47
Kilosyou have a big garden?06:48
Kilosmy strawberries used to be small then i got red wrigglers and the strawberries were 3 times the size06:49
smilebig enough, Kilos :p06:50
Kilosgoogle red wrigglers06:50
Kiloswonderful magic worms 06:51
smilecheater :D06:51
Kilosall kitchen scraps and garden cuttings then make magic compost06:51
Kilosbetter than any bought fertilizer06:52
Kilosyou can also market the vermicast and the worms06:53
ThatGraemeGuymornings06:53
Kiloshi ThatGraemeGuy 06:54
smileKilos: yeah :)06:54
smilehi ThatGraemeGuy 06:54
Kilosnlsthzn, #ubuntu-release is very quiet. is that the wrong channel06:58
nlsthznmight be... still early in the day, I don't expect the release until tomorrow our time06:58
Kiloswhew06:59
GolynxKilos #ubuntu-release-party looks very chatty06:59
Kilosah ty07:00
nlsthznthey will anounce the release about a 100 times in that channel before it is really released :p07:00
smile:o07:02
Kilosthey talk too much in that channel07:07
Golynxlol07:07
Kiloshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/7-ubuntu-14-04-lts-improvements-youll-love07:08
Golynxyeah i read that last week on OMG! UBUNTU! facebook page07:12
Golynxhi charl_07:12
charl_good morning07:12
charl_Maaz: coffee on07:12
* Maaz flips the salt-timer07:12
charl_hi Golynx 07:12
Kiloswatched my first video on fabebook just now07:15
Kilosleopard attack a crocodile nd dragging it off for supper07:16
Kilosawesome07:16
MaazCoffee's ready for charl_!07:16
Kiloshi charl_ 07:16
charl_hi Kilos 07:16
charl_Maaz: thanks07:16
Maazcharl_: Sure07:16
Golynxits strange leopards dont back off like lions do. They go straight for the jugular07:19
Kiloswonderful animals. thats where we learned to make biltong07:21
Kiloshehe07:21
Golynxlol07:21
smilehttp://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html <- worth a read07:23
charl_hi smile 07:23
charl_long time no speak to07:23
smilecharl_: I have been ill for weeks07:24
charl_oh no, what's wrong?07:24
smileI have had kissing disease ;;)07:26
smileit's better now :)07:26
charl_kissing disease ?! :D07:27
charl_ooh :)07:27
Kiloshi Vince-0 07:30
Vince-0o/07:33
psyatwhi Vince-0 07:34
psyatwor haai07:34
psyatwin de baai07:34
psyatw:)07:34
charl_hi psyatw 07:36
charl_hi Vince-0 07:36
charl_how's it going07:36
psyatwhi charl_ 07:36
psyatwit's going well, most trainings are over now07:36
psyatwand hopefully no more stupid tests07:36
psyatwand how are you doing?07:37
Vince-0kurf07:37
Vince-0except for work I guess, 07:37
Kiloshi psyatw 07:41
psyatwhi Kilos 07:41
Kiloshi Guest53905 07:43
Kilosyou new here?07:44
smilehi psyatw :p07:44
psyatwhi smile :D07:44
psyatwsmile, nog gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag gisteren :D07:44
smilebaie dankie, psyatw ;)07:46
psyatw:D07:46
Golynxhey psyatw07:52
psyatwhi Golynx 07:52
Golynx\o_ Vince-007:53
Vince-0sup!07:54
theblazehenyo Vince-0 08:06
KilosGolynx, try remember to give this link to the beta guy please08:20
Kiloshttp://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html08:20
Kilosoption 7 is what he needs for the dual graphics drivers08:21
ThatGraemeGuy step 1. install Kubuntu08:21
ThatGraemeGuystep 2. enjoy08:21
Kiloshaha08:22
ThatGraemeGuythat is all the steps08:22
ThatGraemeGuy:-p08:22
psyatwhi ThatGraemeGuy 08:23
psyatwhi theblazehen 08:23
psyatwyeah08:23
psyatwI have been running the same kubuntu for a year now08:23
theblazehenhy psyatw 08:23
psyatwand soon I will install the new version and run it for at least a year08:24
Golynxhi ThatGraemeGuy08:24
GolynxKilos i will try if that happens08:25
Kilosok ty08:25
Kiloshe installed bumblebee but it didnt work and now they say purge it and use another tool08:25
Kiloshi inetpro 08:32
charl_bitlbee ?08:36
psyatwoptimus prime08:36
psyatwand soundlab08:37
Kilosya that08:37
charl_oh no i see bumblebee is something entirely diffferent08:37
charl_psyatw: i'm doing well !08:37
Kiloshe is very new to buntu so still working his way through things08:37
psyatwcharl_, and work? I am doing Windows OS/application support now, but it's just another step towards something I would really want to do08:38
Kiloslol08:39
Kilosany job is better than no job08:39
charl_psyatw: i'm doing some cool stuff right now - mostly spring combined with maven and a mixed jetty/tomcat/weblogic environment08:41
ThatGraemeGuy#$^# you tomcat!08:41
ThatGraemeGuysorry. habit08:42
charl_psyatw: i had a cool project where i used spring ws (soap) with automated wsdl generation, xsd validation, xslt transformations etc all using a few simple settings and interceptors08:42
KilosThatGraemeGuy, did you buy your houseboat?08:44
ThatGraemeGuyhahaha i wish08:44
Kilosah i thought you were going for it08:44
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: i feel your pain, do you have any experience with wildfly/undertow?08:45
ThatGraemeGuynever heard of them08:45
charl_ThatGraemeGuy: i am quite keen to look at migrating over to that but i don't know if it will be any better08:45
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: they're about R700,000+ second hand08:45
charl_what other containers have you used?08:45
ThatGraemeGuyso no :-(08:45
Kilosouch08:45
charl_i'm not exactly very impressed with weblogic either08:45
Kilosstart collecting materials and then build your own08:46
ThatGraemeGuyi don't really have much opinion on containers, i just use whatever the app recommends08:46
charl_ah ok08:46
ThatGraemeGuywhich for most is typically tomcat08:46
ThatGraemeGuysolr comes with a jetty config that seems to work well enough08:46
charl_i mostly do that as well and in the case of spring, tomcat is pretty-much the accepted default08:46
charl_i just don't like the poor performance of jetty, if it was faster i would have been more happy to use it08:47
ThatGraemeGuyKilos: not really viable there are all sorts of safety standards and inspections you need to pass08:47
Kilosand each one is a big backhand needed i suppose08:49
inetprogood morning, and hi Kilos08:56
Kiloslol hi inetpro 08:57
theblazehenhey inetpro 08:58
Kiloswhew they still fixing lots on #ubuntu-release09:00
Kilosmorning superfly 09:00
inetproKilos: fixing what?09:01
Kilos14.0409:01
* inetpro wonders09:02
Kilosabout?09:04
inetproKilos: what are they fixing?09:05
Kilosdbarth> nhaines: i'm on #ubuntu-webapps09:06
Kilosetc etc09:07
inetprouh09:07
inetproand that means what?09:07
Kilos  /#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swift (trusty-proposed/main) [1.13.1~rc2-0ubuntu1 => 1.13.1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)09:07
Kilosmeans it can only get better09:07
inetproai!09:08
Kilosand mine works lekker already09:08
Kiloswill use next night surfer data for 14.04 kde09:08
* inetpro goes back to work09:09
Golynxhmm, betabertus8899 just came yesterday to give his 2 cents here. Been at #ubuntu all morning09:12
Kiloshehe09:12
Kilosqueuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready09:17
Kilosqueuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntukylin-default-settings (trusty-proposed/universe) [1.1.8 => 1.1.10] (ubuntukylin)09:18
Kilossigh09:18
Kiloskde ready first09:19
Kilosqueuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready09:47
Kiloshahaha11:47
Kilos<infinity> Daviey: Even just a boot/install/reboot smoketest would be fine.  Don't care if it's thoroughly tested, just need to be sure it won't set computers on fire if we release it.11:48
KilosGolynx, http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/neck-pain/neck-strengthening-exercises11:54
GolynxKilos  ty , but i'm all cured now :)11:57
Golynxbut will give that a try sometime11:57
Kilosget stronger so it dont happen again man11:57
Kilospeeps that say they will try something sometime never do11:57
Golynxi should focus more on not to sleep in a life threatening position though lol11:59
Golynxi always had a strong thick neck12:00
Golynxbut have been less active in the excersizing of it in the past years12:00
ThatGraemeGuydist-upgrades are so much nicer when you aren't on ADSL12:01
ThatGraemeGuyYou have to download a total of 1 290 M. This download will take about 23 minutes with your connection.12:02
ThatGraemeGuygo ahead, don't let me stop you12:03
Golynxor +- 30 hours with my connection lol12:04
nlsthznbiggest issue is when the download is 1290mb but the cap is only 1gb :/12:06
ThatGraemeGuywhat's a cap? ;-p12:06
nlsthznlol12:07
* nlsthzn hasn't had one in 5 years but can still remember them :p12:07
ThatGraemeGuyi have one on mobile, but i don't manage to finish it12:08
nlsthznI make sure not to finish the one on mobile due to the cost!12:08
ThatGraemeGuythankfully if my allocation runs out it just stops working12:10
ThatGraemeGuyno OOBShark for me12:10
nlsthznoh I will just get a nasty bill12:15
theblazehennlsthzn: I once got a NASTY bill:/12:48
nlsthzn:(12:48
theblazehenThought I had another 500 MB data12:48
nlsthznouch12:50
Kiloshmm...12:59
Kiloshi smile 13:00
smilehi ;) I had to restart Firefox13:01
smilewanted to try out an addon :D13:01
Kiloshaha13:08
Kilos ETA 25 minutes or so based on the last build13:23
Kiloscoming closer13:23
KilosGuest53905, are you the shy type?13:24
nlsthznKilos: 25 min until?13:24
Kilosi think they mean till release nlsthzn 13:24
Golynxend of the world ?13:24
Kilosim watching #ubuntu-release13:25
GolynxJesus coming ?13:25
Kilosdont mock Golynx 13:25
Golynxoh lol13:25
Kilosthat will happen too in your lifetime13:26
Golynxsorry uncle Kilos13:26
Kilosok13:26
Kilosfunny how they work on it till the last minute13:27
theblazehenKilos: WHATS HAPPENING?13:33
theblazehenI accidentally the caps lock.. sorry13:33
Kilosthey doing finishing touches looks like13:34
Kilosnp13:34
Kiloshaha13:36
KilosAurvandill> windows is like a undersee boat if you open a window you have a big problem13:36
nlsthznthis is always the case... there used to be a site you could actually see the build tests pass or fail etc... kept me awake many nights for no good reason :p13:38
Kiloslol13:38
Private_Userafternoon ZA people, Long Weekend ahead :)14:22
Kiloshmm...14:23
Private_Userhas everybody already started their long weekend?14:24
theblazehenhey Private_User 14:24
Golynxhey Private_User14:25
Golynxwhat is a long weekend lol14:25
Private_User'sup theblazehen and Golynx14:25
Golynxthe working peeps can get a good rest and curry fish on there buns atleast14:27
Private_UserI wonder if people still go on holidays during long weekends...14:29
Private_Userbut I am sure of one thing that never goes out of style, braai, dops and shisa nyama... hehe14:30
Kiloshehe14:30
Vince-0beeer 14:31
Vince-0whoot im out14:31
Kiloslol14:32
Private_Userwow he must have had a "loooong" week14:32
Private_UserLOL14:32
ThatGraemeGuyeh14:32
ThatGraemeGuyquassel doesn't have colourful nicks in the chat window anymore :-/14:33
nlsthznthere is a setting for that :p14:33
Kiloslol14:33
Kilosmust just be disabled14:34
Private_Userhey Kilos, just read above you watching #ubuntu-release is that an IRC channel I can join? 14:35
Kilosis this true?14:35
Kilosdrodriguezpadill> brotherBox, have you tried apt-fast? It does the same thing as apt-get, but pulls from multiple servers at the same time.14:35
ThatGraemeGuyoh there its fixed14:35
Kilos /j ##ubuntu-release14:35
ThatGraemeGuywhy wait for release? just sudo do-release-upgrade -d14:35
Kilosand the hooligans are in #ubuntu-release=party14:36
Kilosthey are fixing lots today ThatGraemeGuy 14:37
* nlsthzn goes home \o/ bai14:37
Kilosupgraded bits and pieces 4 times already14:37
Kilostoods nlsthzn 14:37
Private_Usercya nlsthzn14:37
ThatGraemeGuyyeah, but if you want to upgrade there's no need to wait for release14:37
ThatGraemeGuythe fixed you'll get as per normal anyway14:38
ThatGraemeGuy*fixes14:38
Kilosya14:38
Kilosdunno how many peeps here are going to move to 14.04 yet14:39
Kilosbut i like it14:39
Private_Userdid you get a copy already Kilos?14:39
Kilosyes 2 weeks ago14:39
Kilosi downloaded the daily build14:40
Kilos1g14:40
Private_Userok cool stuff14:40
ThatGraemeGuyi did do-release-upgrade this morning14:40
Kilosnow they say its 1.2g so they been adding14:40
Private_UserI will download the official release version14:40
Kiloswhat you see different on kde ThatGraemeGuy 14:41
ThatGraemeGuynot a lot14:41
ThatGraemeGuynetwork connection icon looks different14:41
Kilossamje with unity . small things but imo its lots better14:41
ThatGraemeGuymy battery still only reports % remaining, not estimated time14:41
ThatGraemeGuybut it lasts 6+ hours so i don't really care14:42
Kilosai! someone gave a link here on what to install to extend battery life14:42
Kilosoh thats good14:42
Kilosmight be in all the coming upgrades14:42
ThatGraemeGuymeh, doesn't really matter14:43
Kilos-queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu GNOME Desktop amd64 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready14:43
ThatGraemeGuyif i run xfce i can get time estimated, for some reason not in kde14:43
ThatGraemeGuykde bug of some sort14:43
Kilosreport it and theyll sort it14:44
Private_Userbrb14:44
Kilosi reported a nm bug and kept getting emails for 2 years14:44
Kiloshehe14:44
ThatGraemeGuyUpstart has been upgraded to version 1.12.1.14:44
ThatGraemeGuyshame, poor thing14:45
Kilosand they dropping upstart next release isnt it14:45
ThatGraemeGuyexactly14:45
Kilosworked well for me14:45
theblazehenMoving to systemd?14:51
theblazehenCan't remember what debian devs decided14:51
ThatGraemeGuyyes14:52
ThatGraemeGuyand caninical decided to do the same14:52
theblazehen:D14:52
ThatGraemeGuywhich makes sense, there is little to be gained by continuing with upstart14:52
theblazehenoh nice: get-popcorn.com14:53
ThatGraemeGuymeh14:55
ThatGraemeGuytorrents are hopeless on most uncapped accounts14:55
theblazehenThatGraemeGuy: all good here :)14:56
theblazehenStreaming Europa report at 720p14:56
Kilosone of the testing machines seems to be going a bit slow14:59
inetproeverything on schedule still if you ask me15:02
inetprothe release schedule is not based on our SAST timezone15:03
Kilosi wont download it for a while but its still exciting15:11
Kilosi remember the 10.10 release15:11
Kiloseveryone was more excited15:11
Kilosbut this looks like a good one15:11
inetprobut looking on #ubuntu-release it does look like they are running a bit late today15:14
Kilosyeah15:14
inetproKilos: btw, it is #ubuntu-release-party not ubuntu-release=party15:16
Kilosoh did i miss a hash15:17
Kilossorry15:17
inetprono15:17
inetproyou put a =15:17
Kilosoh and an = thing too15:17
Kilossjoe15:17
Kilosnormally i read before pressing enter but didnt that time15:18
Kilosnow they gotta sort sflphone15:48
Kilosoh inetpro as a matter of interest iftop sees ppp0 on 12.04 and wwan0 on 14.0415:49
Kilosi dunno why that might be15:49
Kilosiftop works without the -i ppp015:49
Kilosat least it works15:51
Kiloseish 10°c tonight15:56
* Kilos shivvering already15:56
Kilosoh my they are struggling16:26
Kiloshmm...17:08
theblazehenKilos: hmm?17:10
Kilosthey struggling17:10
Kiloslooks like mythubuntu has bad bugs17:11
Golynxbad news for those drooling for the 14.04 Lts ? 17:12
Kilosya17:12
Kilosmine works lekker17:13
Kilosi think they gonna just keep mythubuntu back17:13
Golynxwhy peeps going bananas over it, they can get it tomorow or even next week . Like the baby wants his bottle now lol17:14
Golynxor is there a pot of gold in the first 100k downloads :D17:17
Kiloslol17:18
Kiloshow do these things work?17:20
Kiloshttp://sflphone.org/download/stable-release17:20
KilosMaaz, seen magespawn17:22
MaazKilos: magespawn was last seen 1 day, 9 hours, 46 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-04-16 00:35:59 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-04-16 00:36:03 PDT17:22
Private_UserLOL @ Golynx17:48
Private_Useryeah I always wonder what all the anticipation is about when something new is released17:49
Private_Useryou can always get it tomorrow17:49
Private_Userthe worse is stuff that you buy from stores where people queue from like the night before just to get something that is gonna be in store for the first time the next day17:50
Private_Userbut seriously now what time is this ubuntu 14.04 being officially released?17:54
GolynxPrivate_User: i agree hehe :D17:54
superflyPrivate_User: there is no official time, they release it when they release it17:54
superflyPrivate_User: in my exeprience, anything from 4 - 10 pm17:54
Private_Userso for all we know it could be at 23:59pm17:55
Private_Userhehe17:55
superflyyup17:55
superflyPrivate_User: whose timezone? :-P17:55
Private_Usercause it will still be the 17/04/201417:55
Private_UserLOL17:55
Private_Usergood question superfly17:55
* superfly <3 torrenting ISOs17:56
superfly793 seeders for Debian 717:56
Private_Useron the ubuntu-release and ubuntu-release-party channels they say to stay off the servers until the official announcement17:57
Private_Userwell for me thats fine I would be downloading after 00:00 to use my nite surfer data17:57
Private_User:D17:58
* superfly has uncapped, doesn't worry about when and how much17:58
Private_Userlucky superfly17:58
superflyhey, I pay for it17:58
superflyI'm not lucky17:59
Private_Userlol17:59
Private_Userunfortunately for me Telkom refuse to install line where I am because of cable theft17:59
Private_Userso I am on 3G17:59
superflyaaahh17:59
superflyany android devs here?18:01
captineevening all18:04
Golynxhi captine18:04
theblazehenyo all18:04
superflyhi captine18:04
Golynxhi superfly18:04
* superfly takes the silence as a "no"18:04
captinehi hi18:04
Golynxsuperfly i only do phonegap apps in android. Java is too messy lol18:05
captineanyone know a good tool for cpu fan controlling?  my laptop is pretty warm and I would prefer the fans kicking in sooner18:06
Golynxbut one can use python to make android apps too :)18:08
Golynxcaptine: when last did you clean the fan18:08
Kiloslol18:08
Kiloshi all18:08
superflyGolynx: I'm not a fan of Java, but I'm not scared of it either. I'd rather make a native app too18:09
captinelol.  never.  2012 macbook.  think i need to install the mactel ppa stuff... just not sure.18:09
captineonly purchased last year may18:10
KilosGolynx, knows all about cleaning lappy fans18:10
Kilosthats how we first got involved here hey Golynx 18:10
Kilosor am i mixing you with someone else18:11
Golynxsuperfly: native apps are great, but when you have to make for many platforms at once phonegap is awesome.18:12
Golynxlol Kilos18:12
Golynxyeah, i finally managed to break into buckingham palace to clean the queens tea cups lol18:13
superflyGolynx: well, I only want an Android app, so I'm perfectly happy with NOT making a gazillion other versions18:13
superfly:-D18:13
Golynxsuperfly: thats great, i would prefer to use python instead of java for android native apps aswell. 18:15
Golynxatleast anything besides a webview18:16
theblazehenGolynx: you can do that?!18:17
theblazehen(python)18:17
Golynxcaptine: 2012 is a good amount of time for daddy and mommy long legs to set up a new home in your lappy and having a few kids aswell. 18:17
Kiloshaha18:18
Kilosthe job is in opening a lappy to clean everywhere18:19
Kilosif the fan is dirty so is the cpu heatsink18:19
Golynxtheblazehen: like http://qpython.com i forgot the others18:19
GolynxKilos: yeah took me 6 hours to figure out how to get into mine18:20
Kilosrofl18:21
Golynx:D18:21
Kilosi really battled to open ians years back and that was after he had broken lots of the clips and screw holes18:21
captinelol.  model is 2012 (late). so still pretty new.  i will check.  just know if doesnt run this hot under osx18:21
Kilosterrible things18:21
theblazehenGolynx: ah, ok18:22
Kiloscaptine, what os you have on there?18:22
theblazehenWas hoping you could compile or whatever to an apk18:22
captinejust cleared osx and running 14.04 only (installed daily build yesterday)18:23
captinevery stable18:23
Kilosand its running hotter than yesterday?18:23
captineno18:24
captinehotter than osx18:24
captinewhich i used a while back18:24
captinehad 12.04 on and it was cooler, but think i had installed the mactel ports18:24
captinei mean mactel ppa18:24
captinesoftware18:24
Kiloshas osx got serious graprhics like ubuntu?18:24
captinelol.  18:25
Kilosapart from dust and dirt inside it shouldnt run hotter18:26
Kilosimo anyway18:26
Kilosyou must bumped it and just all fell down where is makes things heat worse18:26
captineapple has some pretty crazy power saving settings etc from what I have heard.  think the hotter running issue happens on other macs.... the problem with using mac...18:26
Kiloscan you feel the heat on the keyboard or how you know its getting hot18:28
captineyip.  keyboard is pretty warm18:31
theblazehencaptine: can you run "sensors" ?18:31
captinewill try18:32
Golynxtheblazehen: i think this is the closest to what you wana do https://ep2013.europython.eu/conference/talks/developing-android-apps-completely-in-python18:33
captinecore 0 and core 1 are 70 and 71 degrees respectively18:33
captinesensors states the high is 87 and critical is 10518:34
Golynxits kinda sad, python would be a perfect language for android18:34
theblazehenGolynx: thanks18:34
captineone sensor (not sure what it is) is at 80 degrees.18:34
theblazehencaptine: and "uptime" ?18:34
captine20:34:36 up 35 min,  4 users,  load average: 0,41, 0,53, 0,6418:34
Golynxcaptine: thats kinda high18:35
captinereminds me... i must get conky working18:35
captineGolynx, yip18:35
captinehave set cpuscaling to powersave while I figure this out18:35
theblazehenI should also get a conky.. But I never see may wallpapaer :(18:35
Golynxmine runs at somewhere at 50 - 65 degrees18:36
Golynxit was 80 - 110 degrees before i cleaned it18:36
captinetheblazehen, that is one thing that i was wondering about.  prefer a indicator icon18:36
Kilosthere is a package called fancontrol18:38
theblazehenKilos: but temp is really high... I'd rather have high fan18:39
Kilosyeah maybe fancontrol can rev it up18:40
Kilosmy cpu runs cool18:40
KilosPhysical id 0:  +31.0°C  (high = +85.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)18:40
Kiloscore0=28 and core1=3118:41
captinenice and cool18:42
captinei was watching lots of youtube.. maybe it will cool now18:42
theblazehencaptine: html5 or flash?18:46
Kilosgood luck. maybe google for instructions on how to strip it to clean inside18:46
Kilossleep tight all of you18:46
Kilossee ya tomorrow18:46
captinewas playing it through VLC... so not sure what that uses.  I had set my youtube account for html5 where available18:48
theblazehencaptine: should be good then. Flash kills CPU on linux18:49
theblazehennight all19:02
smilesee ya :p19:17
Golynxtake care smile 19:18
smilethanks :)19:18
Golynxnight all19:18

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