[05:39] <nlsthzn> Happy release day everyone :p
[05:41] <Kilos> morning all
[05:42] <Kilos> is it happy release day today not_found ?
[05:43] <nlsthzn> yup
[05:43] <nlsthzn> 14.04 landing today
[05:44] <Kilos> hi jabberwocky93
[05:44] <Kilos> hi Spekko 
[05:44] <Spekko> more Kilos
[05:44] <jabberwocky93> more Kilos
[05:45]  * jabberwocky93 slaps Spekko with a large trout
[05:45] <Kilos> mo
[05:45] <Kilos> môre julle
[05:45] <jabberwocky93> Maaz: coffee on
[05:45]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[05:45] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee please
[05:45] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[05:46] <Kilos> Maaz, with cremora
[05:46] <Maaz> Ah! At last someone with taste
[05:46] <Kilos> Maaz, and milk
[05:46] <Maaz> Now you're talking
[05:48]  * Spekko takes it like a little b@#%
[05:48] <Spekko> Maaz: Coffee on
[05:48] <Maaz> Spekko: There's already a pot on. If you ask nicely, maybe you can have a cup
[05:48] <Spekko> Maaz Coffee please
[05:48] <Maaz> Spekko: Sure
[05:49] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for jabberwocky93, Kilos and Spekko!
[05:50] <Kilos> Maaz, gracias amigo
[05:50] <Maaz> ¡de nada compadre
[05:50] <nlsthzn> http://www.pointerpointer.com/
[05:51] <jabberwocky93> Maaz, спасибо
[05:51] <Maaz> jabberwocky93: Huh?
[05:52] <Kilos> who is that nlsthzn 
[05:53] <nlsthzn> dunno
[05:53] <nlsthzn> they are random pictures pointing to the pointer :p
[05:56] <jabberwocky93> ah yes cool site, I couldn't stop and looked at all of them
[05:59] <nlsthzn> lol
[06:00] <jabberwocky93> in my private time at least :)
[06:06] <Kilos> lol
[06:19] <theblazehen> morning
[06:19] <Kilos> hi theblazehen 
[06:29] <theblazehen> yo Golynx 
[06:30] <Golynx> hi theblazehen
[06:32] <Kilos> hi smile Golynx 
[06:32] <smile> hi :D
[06:33] <smile> you missed my party, Kilos :p
[06:33] <Golynx> hi Kilos
[06:33] <Golynx> hey smile
[06:33] <Kilos> sorry smile hope you enjoyed it
[06:33] <Kilos> thats what counts
[06:33] <smile> Kilos: no worries, my birthday was great :)
[06:33] <smile> gf came to me ;)
[06:34] <Kilos> cool
[06:34] <Kilos> haha
[06:34] <smile> :D we took photographs
[06:34] <Kilos> of what
[06:34] <smile> I have to select the best ones, though
[06:34] <smile> me & my gf :)
[06:34] <Kilos> lol
[06:34] <smile> If I only had 2, life would be easy :p
[06:34] <smile> I have 68 :p
[06:35] <Kilos> wow
[06:35] <smile> yeah :p
[06:35] <smile> quite a few :p
[06:35] <Kilos> is that all you did all day
[06:36] <smile> that was just an hour :D
[06:36] <Kilos> you supposed to eat sweets and cake and stuff too
[06:36] <smile> I ate pie :D
[06:36] <Kilos> what pie
[06:37] <smile> fruit pie :p
[06:37] <Kilos> lekker
[06:37] <smile> ja :p
[06:37] <smile> there were strawberries on it ;)
[06:37] <smile> melon too :p
[06:37] <Kilos> i grow my own strawberries
[06:37] <smile> and of course, whipped cream :)
[06:38] <Kilos> hehe
[06:38] <smile> we used to have a lot of strawberries :( the gardener thought it was weed, so he removed everything
[06:38] <smile> it will take years again to grow like it was before
[06:38] <Kilos> lol
[06:39] <smile> I like them, they're gone now :(
[06:39] <smile> anyway, we buy them now. but we used to have kilo-s of them, now only a few gram :D
[06:39] <Kilos> lol
[06:40] <Kilos> kill the gardener
[06:40] <smile> no, he has done good work too ;)
[06:40] <smile> I don't blame him, but I was a bit disappointed at first
[06:40] <Kilos> then just hit him about the head a bit
[06:40] <smile> He was too
[06:40] <Kilos> and pat him on the back for the good work
[06:41] <smile> Imagine, you clean up the garden and they're not happy
[06:41] <smile> I'm afraid he's stronger than me :D
[06:41] <Kilos> walk softly and carry a big stick
[06:41] <Golynx> put some ants in his pants lol
[06:41] <Kilos> lol
[06:42] <smile> Golynx: lol :D
[06:42] <smile> I guess I can live with it ;)
[06:44] <Kilos> just buy one plant man it will spread
[06:45] <Kilos> after baring they send out runners to make new plants
[06:46] <smile> I have a few left :p
[06:46] <smile> I think they will grow again
[06:46] <smile> :)
[06:46] <smile> and spread ;)
[06:46] <smile> new ones aren't better necessarily
[06:47] <smile> (they can be quite small)
[06:47] <smile> it only looks awful now :D
[06:48] <Kilos> you have a big garden?
[06:49] <Kilos> my strawberries used to be small then i got red wrigglers and the strawberries were 3 times the size
[06:50] <smile> big enough, Kilos :p
[06:50] <Kilos> google red wrigglers
[06:51] <Kilos> wonderful magic worms 
[06:51] <smile> cheater :D
[06:51] <Kilos> all kitchen scraps and garden cuttings then make magic compost
[06:52] <Kilos> better than any bought fertilizer
[06:53] <Kilos> you can also market the vermicast and the worms
[06:53] <ThatGraemeGuy> mornings
[06:54] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:54] <smile> Kilos: yeah :)
[06:54] <smile> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:58] <Kilos> nlsthzn, #ubuntu-release is very quiet. is that the wrong channel
[06:58] <nlsthzn> might be... still early in the day, I don't expect the release until tomorrow our time
[06:59] <Kilos> whew
[06:59] <Golynx> Kilos #ubuntu-release-party looks very chatty
[07:00] <Kilos> ah ty
[07:00] <nlsthzn> they will anounce the release about a 100 times in that channel before it is really released :p
[07:02] <smile> :o
[07:07] <Kilos> they talk too much in that channel
[07:07] <Golynx> lol
[07:08] <Kilos> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/03/7-ubuntu-14-04-lts-improvements-youll-love
[07:12] <Golynx> yeah i read that last week on OMG! UBUNTU! facebook page
[07:12] <Golynx> hi charl_
[07:12] <charl_> good morning
[07:12] <charl_> Maaz: coffee on
[07:12]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[07:12] <charl_> hi Golynx 
[07:15] <Kilos> watched my first video on fabebook just now
[07:16] <Kilos> leopard attack a crocodile nd dragging it off for supper
[07:16] <Kilos> awesome
[07:16] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl_!
[07:16] <Kilos> hi charl_ 
[07:16] <charl_> hi Kilos 
[07:16] <charl_> Maaz: thanks
[07:16] <Maaz> charl_: Sure
[07:19] <Golynx> its strange leopards dont back off like lions do. They go straight for the jugular
[07:21] <Kilos> wonderful animals. thats where we learned to make biltong
[07:21] <Kilos> hehe
[07:21] <Golynx> lol
[07:23] <smile> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html <- worth a read
[07:23] <charl_> hi smile 
[07:23] <charl_> long time no speak to
[07:24] <smile> charl_: I have been ill for weeks
[07:24] <charl_> oh no, what's wrong?
[07:26] <smile> I have had kissing disease ;;)
[07:26] <smile> it's better now :)
[07:27] <charl_> kissing disease ?! :D
[07:27] <charl_> ooh :)
[07:30] <Kilos> hi Vince-0 
[07:33] <Vince-0> o/
[07:34] <psyatw> hi Vince-0 
[07:34] <psyatw> or haai
[07:34] <psyatw> in de baai
[07:34] <psyatw> :)
[07:36] <charl_> hi psyatw 
[07:36] <charl_> hi Vince-0 
[07:36] <charl_> how's it going
[07:36] <psyatw> hi charl_ 
[07:36] <psyatw> it's going well, most trainings are over now
[07:36] <psyatw> and hopefully no more stupid tests
[07:37] <psyatw> and how are you doing?
[07:37] <Vince-0> kurf
[07:37] <Vince-0> except for work I guess, 
[07:41] <Kilos> hi psyatw 
[07:41] <psyatw> hi Kilos 
[07:43] <Kilos> hi Guest53905 
[07:44] <Kilos> you new here?
[07:44] <smile> hi psyatw :p
[07:44] <psyatw> hi smile :D
[07:44] <psyatw> smile, nog gefeliciteerd met je verjaardag gisteren :D
[07:46] <smile> baie dankie, psyatw ;)
[07:46] <psyatw> :D
[07:52] <Golynx> hey psyatw
[07:52] <psyatw> hi Golynx 
[07:53] <Golynx> \o_ Vince-0
[07:54] <Vince-0> sup!
[08:06] <theblazehen> yo Vince-0 
[08:20] <Kilos> Golynx, try remember to give this link to the beta guy please
[08:20] <Kilos> http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu.html
[08:21] <Kilos> option 7 is what he needs for the dual graphics drivers
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy>  step 1. install Kubuntu
[08:21] <ThatGraemeGuy> step 2. enjoy
[08:22] <Kilos> haha
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> that is all the steps
[08:22] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-p
[08:23] <psyatw> hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[08:23] <psyatw> hi theblazehen 
[08:23] <psyatw> yeah
[08:23] <psyatw> I have been running the same kubuntu for a year now
[08:23] <theblazehen> hy psyatw 
[08:24] <psyatw> and soon I will install the new version and run it for at least a year
[08:24] <Golynx> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[08:25] <Golynx> Kilos i will try if that happens
[08:25] <Kilos> ok ty
[08:25] <Kilos> he installed bumblebee but it didnt work and now they say purge it and use another tool
[08:32] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[08:36] <charl_> bitlbee ?
[08:36] <psyatw> optimus prime
[08:37] <psyatw> and soundlab
[08:37] <Kilos> ya that
[08:37] <charl_> oh no i see bumblebee is something entirely diffferent
[08:37] <charl_> psyatw: i'm doing well !
[08:37] <Kilos> he is very new to buntu so still working his way through things
[08:38] <psyatw> charl_, and work? I am doing Windows OS/application support now, but it's just another step towards something I would really want to do
[08:39] <Kilos> lol
[08:39] <Kilos> any job is better than no job
[08:41] <charl_> psyatw: i'm doing some cool stuff right now - mostly spring combined with maven and a mixed jetty/tomcat/weblogic environment
[08:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> #$^# you tomcat!
[08:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> sorry. habit
[08:42] <charl_> psyatw: i had a cool project where i used spring ws (soap) with automated wsdl generation, xsd validation, xslt transformations etc all using a few simple settings and interceptors
[08:44] <Kilos> ThatGraemeGuy, did you buy your houseboat?
[08:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> hahaha i wish
[08:44] <Kilos> ah i thought you were going for it
[08:45] <charl_> ThatGraemeGuy: i feel your pain, do you have any experience with wildfly/undertow?
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> never heard of them
[08:45] <charl_> ThatGraemeGuy: i am quite keen to look at migrating over to that but i don't know if it will be any better
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: they're about R700,000+ second hand
[08:45] <charl_> what other containers have you used?
[08:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> so no :-(
[08:45] <Kilos> ouch
[08:45] <charl_> i'm not exactly very impressed with weblogic either
[08:46] <Kilos> start collecting materials and then build your own
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> i don't really have much opinion on containers, i just use whatever the app recommends
[08:46] <charl_> ah ok
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> which for most is typically tomcat
[08:46] <ThatGraemeGuy> solr comes with a jetty config that seems to work well enough
[08:46] <charl_> i mostly do that as well and in the case of spring, tomcat is pretty-much the accepted default
[08:47] <charl_> i just don't like the poor performance of jetty, if it was faster i would have been more happy to use it
[08:47] <ThatGraemeGuy> Kilos: not really viable there are all sorts of safety standards and inspections you need to pass
[08:49] <Kilos> and each one is a big backhand needed i suppose
[08:56] <inetpro> good morning, and hi Kilos
[08:57] <Kilos> lol hi inetpro 
[08:58] <theblazehen> hey inetpro 
[09:00] <Kilos> whew they still fixing lots on #ubuntu-release
[09:00] <Kilos> morning superfly 
[09:01] <inetpro> Kilos: fixing what?
[09:01] <Kilos> 14.04
[09:02]  * inetpro wonders
[09:04] <Kilos> about?
[09:05] <inetpro> Kilos: what are they fixing?
[09:06] <Kilos> dbarth> nhaines: i'm on #ubuntu-webapps
[09:07] <Kilos> etc etc
[09:07] <inetpro> uh
[09:07] <inetpro> and that means what?
[09:07] <Kilos>   /#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: swift (trusty-proposed/main) [1.13.1~rc2-0ubuntu1 => 1.13.1-0ubuntu1] (ubuntu-server)
[09:07] <Kilos> means it can only get better
[09:08] <inetpro> ai!
[09:08] <Kilos> and mine works lekker already
[09:08] <Kilos> will use next night surfer data for 14.04 kde
[09:09]  * inetpro goes back to work
[09:12] <Golynx> hmm, betabertus8899 just came yesterday to give his 2 cents here. Been at #ubuntu all morning
[09:12] <Kilos> hehe
[09:17] <Kilos> queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Kubuntu Desktop amd64 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready
[09:18] <Kilos> queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Unapproved: ubuntukylin-default-settings (trusty-proposed/universe) [1.1.8 => 1.1.10] (ubuntukylin)
[09:18] <Kilos> sigh
[09:19] <Kilos> kde ready first
[09:47] <Kilos> queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Lubuntu Desktop i386 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready
[11:47] <Kilos> hahaha
 Daviey: Even just a boot/install/reboot smoketest would be fine.  Don't care if it's thoroughly tested, just need to be sure it won't set computers on fire if we release it.
[11:54] <Kilos> Golynx, http://www.spine-health.com/conditions/neck-pain/neck-strengthening-exercises
[11:57] <Golynx> Kilos  ty , but i'm all cured now :)
[11:57] <Golynx> but will give that a try sometime
[11:57] <Kilos> get stronger so it dont happen again man
[11:57] <Kilos> peeps that say they will try something sometime never do
[11:59] <Golynx> i should focus more on not to sleep in a life threatening position though lol
[12:00] <Golynx> i always had a strong thick neck
[12:00] <Golynx> but have been less active in the excersizing of it in the past years
[12:01] <ThatGraemeGuy> dist-upgrades are so much nicer when you aren't on ADSL
[12:02] <ThatGraemeGuy> You have to download a total of 1 290 M. This download will take about 23 minutes with your connection.
[12:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> go ahead, don't let me stop you
[12:04] <Golynx> or +- 30 hours with my connection lol
[12:06] <nlsthzn> biggest issue is when the download is 1290mb but the cap is only 1gb :/
[12:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> what's a cap? ;-p
[12:07] <nlsthzn> lol
[12:07]  * nlsthzn hasn't had one in 5 years but can still remember them :p
[12:08] <ThatGraemeGuy> i have one on mobile, but i don't manage to finish it
[12:08] <nlsthzn> I make sure not to finish the one on mobile due to the cost!
[12:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> thankfully if my allocation runs out it just stops working
[12:10] <ThatGraemeGuy> no OOBShark for me
[12:15] <nlsthzn> oh I will just get a nasty bill
[12:48] <theblazehen> nlsthzn: I once got a NASTY bill:/
[12:48] <nlsthzn> :(
[12:48] <theblazehen> Thought I had another 500 MB data
[12:50] <nlsthzn> ouch
[12:59] <Kilos> hmm...
[13:00] <Kilos> hi smile 
[13:01] <smile> hi ;) I had to restart Firefox
[13:01] <smile> wanted to try out an addon :D
[13:08] <Kilos> haha
[13:23] <Kilos>  ETA 25 minutes or so based on the last build
[13:23] <Kilos> coming closer
[13:24] <Kilos> Guest53905, are you the shy type?
[13:24] <nlsthzn> Kilos: 25 min until?
[13:24] <Kilos> i think they mean till release nlsthzn 
[13:24] <Golynx> end of the world ?
[13:25] <Kilos> im watching #ubuntu-release
[13:25] <Golynx> Jesus coming ?
[13:25] <Kilos> dont mock Golynx 
[13:25] <Golynx> oh lol
[13:26] <Kilos> that will happen too in your lifetime
[13:26] <Golynx> sorry uncle Kilos
[13:26] <Kilos> ok
[13:27] <Kilos> funny how they work on it till the last minute
[13:33] <theblazehen> Kilos: WHATS HAPPENING?
[13:33] <theblazehen> I accidentally the caps lock.. sorry
[13:34] <Kilos> they doing finishing touches looks like
[13:34] <Kilos> np
[13:36] <Kilos> haha
[13:36] <Kilos> Aurvandill> windows is like a undersee boat if you open a window you have a big problem
[13:38] <nlsthzn> this is always the case... there used to be a site you could actually see the build tests pass or fail etc... kept me awake many nights for no good reason :p
[13:38] <Kilos> lol
[14:22] <Private_User> afternoon ZA people, Long Weekend ahead :)
[14:23] <Kilos> hmm...
[14:24] <Private_User> has everybody already started their long weekend?
[14:24] <theblazehen> hey Private_User 
[14:25] <Golynx> hey Private_User
[14:25] <Golynx> what is a long weekend lol
[14:25] <Private_User> 'sup theblazehen and Golynx
[14:27] <Golynx> the working peeps can get a good rest and curry fish on there buns atleast
[14:29] <Private_User> I wonder if people still go on holidays during long weekends...
[14:30] <Private_User> but I am sure of one thing that never goes out of style, braai, dops and shisa nyama... hehe
[14:30] <Kilos> hehe
[14:31] <Vince-0> beeer 
[14:31] <Vince-0> whoot im out
[14:32] <Kilos> lol
[14:32] <Private_User> wow he must have had a "loooong" week
[14:32] <Private_User> LOL
[14:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> eh
[14:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> quassel doesn't have colourful nicks in the chat window anymore :-/
[14:33] <nlsthzn> there is a setting for that :p
[14:33] <Kilos> lol
[14:34] <Kilos> must just be disabled
[14:35] <Private_User> hey Kilos, just read above you watching #ubuntu-release is that an IRC channel I can join? 
[14:35] <Kilos> is this true?
[14:35] <Kilos> drodriguezpadill> brotherBox, have you tried apt-fast? It does the same thing as apt-get, but pulls from multiple servers at the same time.
[14:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> oh there its fixed
[14:35] <Kilos>  /j ##ubuntu-release
[14:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> why wait for release? just sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[14:36] <Kilos> and the hooligans are in #ubuntu-release=party
[14:37] <Kilos> they are fixing lots today ThatGraemeGuy 
[14:37]  * nlsthzn goes home \o/ bai
[14:37] <Kilos> upgraded bits and pieces 4 times already
[14:37] <Kilos> toods nlsthzn 
[14:37] <Private_User> cya nlsthzn
[14:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> yeah, but if you want to upgrade there's no need to wait for release
[14:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> the fixed you'll get as per normal anyway
[14:38] <ThatGraemeGuy> *fixes
[14:38] <Kilos> ya
[14:39] <Kilos> dunno how many peeps here are going to move to 14.04 yet
[14:39] <Kilos> but i like it
[14:39] <Private_User> did you get a copy already Kilos?
[14:39] <Kilos> yes 2 weeks ago
[14:40] <Kilos> i downloaded the daily build
[14:40] <Kilos> 1g
[14:40] <Private_User> ok cool stuff
[14:40] <ThatGraemeGuy> i did do-release-upgrade this morning
[14:40] <Kilos> now they say its 1.2g so they been adding
[14:40] <Private_User> I will download the official release version
[14:41] <Kilos> what you see different on kde ThatGraemeGuy 
[14:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> not a lot
[14:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> network connection icon looks different
[14:41] <Kilos> samje with unity . small things but imo its lots better
[14:41] <ThatGraemeGuy> my battery still only reports % remaining, not estimated time
[14:42] <ThatGraemeGuy> but it lasts 6+ hours so i don't really care
[14:42] <Kilos> ai! someone gave a link here on what to install to extend battery life
[14:42] <Kilos> oh thats good
[14:42] <Kilos> might be in all the coming upgrades
[14:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh, doesn't really matter
[14:43] <Kilos> -queuebot/#ubuntu-release- Builds: Ubuntu GNOME Desktop amd64 [Trusty Final] has been marked as ready
[14:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> if i run xfce i can get time estimated, for some reason not in kde
[14:43] <ThatGraemeGuy> kde bug of some sort
[14:44] <Kilos> report it and theyll sort it
[14:44] <Private_User> brb
[14:44] <Kilos> i reported a nm bug and kept getting emails for 2 years
[14:44] <Kilos> hehe
[14:44] <ThatGraemeGuy> Upstart has been upgraded to version 1.12.1.
[14:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> shame, poor thing
[14:45] <Kilos> and they dropping upstart next release isnt it
[14:45] <ThatGraemeGuy> exactly
[14:45] <Kilos> worked well for me
[14:51] <theblazehen> Moving to systemd?
[14:51] <theblazehen> Can't remember what debian devs decided
[14:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> yes
[14:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> and caninical decided to do the same
[14:52] <theblazehen> :D
[14:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> which makes sense, there is little to be gained by continuing with upstart
[14:53] <theblazehen> oh nice: get-popcorn.com
[14:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh
[14:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> torrents are hopeless on most uncapped accounts
[14:56] <theblazehen> ThatGraemeGuy: all good here :)
[14:56] <theblazehen> Streaming Europa report at 720p
[14:59] <Kilos> one of the testing machines seems to be going a bit slow
[15:02] <inetpro> everything on schedule still if you ask me
[15:03] <inetpro> the release schedule is not based on our SAST timezone
[15:11] <Kilos> i wont download it for a while but its still exciting
[15:11] <Kilos> i remember the 10.10 release
[15:11] <Kilos> everyone was more excited
[15:11] <Kilos> but this looks like a good one
[15:14] <inetpro> but looking on #ubuntu-release it does look like they are running a bit late today
[15:14] <Kilos> yeah
[15:16] <inetpro> Kilos: btw, it is #ubuntu-release-party not ubuntu-release=party
[15:17] <Kilos> oh did i miss a hash
[15:17] <Kilos> sorry
[15:17] <inetpro> no
[15:17] <inetpro> you put a =
[15:17] <Kilos> oh and an = thing too
[15:17] <Kilos> sjoe
[15:18] <Kilos> normally i read before pressing enter but didnt that time
[15:48] <Kilos> now they gotta sort sflphone
[15:49] <Kilos> oh inetpro as a matter of interest iftop sees ppp0 on 12.04 and wwan0 on 14.04
[15:49] <Kilos> i dunno why that might be
[15:49] <Kilos> iftop works without the -i ppp0
[15:51] <Kilos> at least it works
[15:56] <Kilos> eish 10°c tonight
[15:56]  * Kilos shivvering already
[16:26] <Kilos> oh my they are struggling
[17:08] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:10] <theblazehen> Kilos: hmm?
[17:10] <Kilos> they struggling
[17:11] <Kilos> looks like mythubuntu has bad bugs
[17:12] <Golynx> bad news for those drooling for the 14.04 Lts ? 
[17:12] <Kilos> ya
[17:13] <Kilos> mine works lekker
[17:13] <Kilos> i think they gonna just keep mythubuntu back
[17:14] <Golynx> why peeps going bananas over it, they can get it tomorow or even next week . Like the baby wants his bottle now lol
[17:17] <Golynx> or is there a pot of gold in the first 100k downloads :D
[17:18] <Kilos> lol
[17:20] <Kilos> how do these things work?
[17:20] <Kilos> http://sflphone.org/download/stable-release
[17:22] <Kilos> Maaz, seen magespawn
[17:22] <Maaz> Kilos: magespawn was last seen 1 day, 9 hours, 46 minutes and 35 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2014-04-16 00:35:59 PDT], and has been offline on freenode since 2014-04-16 00:36:03 PDT
[17:48] <Private_User> LOL @ Golynx
[17:49] <Private_User> yeah I always wonder what all the anticipation is about when something new is released
[17:49] <Private_User> you can always get it tomorrow
[17:50] <Private_User> the worse is stuff that you buy from stores where people queue from like the night before just to get something that is gonna be in store for the first time the next day
[17:54] <Private_User> but seriously now what time is this ubuntu 14.04 being officially released?
[17:54] <Golynx> Private_User: i agree hehe :D
[17:54] <superfly> Private_User: there is no official time, they release it when they release it
[17:54] <superfly> Private_User: in my exeprience, anything from 4 - 10 pm
[17:55] <Private_User> so for all we know it could be at 23:59pm
[17:55] <Private_User> hehe
[17:55] <superfly> yup
[17:55] <superfly> Private_User: whose timezone? :-P
[17:55] <Private_User> cause it will still be the 17/04/2014
[17:55] <Private_User> LOL
[17:55] <Private_User> good question superfly
[17:56]  * superfly <3 torrenting ISOs
[17:56] <superfly> 793 seeders for Debian 7
[17:57] <Private_User> on the ubuntu-release and ubuntu-release-party channels they say to stay off the servers until the official announcement
[17:57] <Private_User> well for me thats fine I would be downloading after 00:00 to use my nite surfer data
[17:58] <Private_User> :D
[17:58]  * superfly has uncapped, doesn't worry about when and how much
[17:58] <Private_User> lucky superfly
[17:58] <superfly> hey, I pay for it
[17:59] <superfly> I'm not lucky
[17:59] <Private_User> lol
[17:59] <Private_User> unfortunately for me Telkom refuse to install line where I am because of cable theft
[17:59] <Private_User> so I am on 3G
[17:59] <superfly> aaahh
[18:01] <superfly> any android devs here?
[18:04] <captine> evening all
[18:04] <Golynx> hi captine
[18:04] <theblazehen> yo all
[18:04] <superfly> hi captine
[18:04] <Golynx> hi superfly
[18:04]  * superfly takes the silence as a "no"
[18:04] <captine> hi hi
[18:05] <Golynx> superfly i only do phonegap apps in android. Java is too messy lol
[18:06] <captine> anyone know a good tool for cpu fan controlling?  my laptop is pretty warm and I would prefer the fans kicking in sooner
[18:08] <Golynx> but one can use python to make android apps too :)
[18:08] <Golynx> captine: when last did you clean the fan
[18:08] <Kilos> lol
[18:08] <Kilos> hi all
[18:09] <superfly> Golynx: I'm not a fan of Java, but I'm not scared of it either. I'd rather make a native app too
[18:09] <captine> lol.  never.  2012 macbook.  think i need to install the mactel ppa stuff... just not sure.
[18:10] <captine> only purchased last year may
[18:10] <Kilos> Golynx, knows all about cleaning lappy fans
[18:10] <Kilos> thats how we first got involved here hey Golynx 
[18:11] <Kilos> or am i mixing you with someone else
[18:12] <Golynx> superfly: native apps are great, but when you have to make for many platforms at once phonegap is awesome.
[18:12] <Golynx> lol Kilos
[18:13] <Golynx> yeah, i finally managed to break into buckingham palace to clean the queens tea cups lol
[18:13] <superfly> Golynx: well, I only want an Android app, so I'm perfectly happy with NOT making a gazillion other versions
[18:13] <superfly> :-D
[18:15] <Golynx> superfly: thats great, i would prefer to use python instead of java for android native apps aswell. 
[18:16] <Golynx> atleast anything besides a webview
[18:17] <theblazehen> Golynx: you can do that?!
[18:17] <theblazehen> (python)
[18:17] <Golynx> captine: 2012 is a good amount of time for daddy and mommy long legs to set up a new home in your lappy and having a few kids aswell. 
[18:18] <Kilos> haha
[18:19] <Kilos> the job is in opening a lappy to clean everywhere
[18:19] <Kilos> if the fan is dirty so is the cpu heatsink
[18:19] <Golynx> theblazehen: like http://qpython.com i forgot the others
[18:20] <Golynx> Kilos: yeah took me 6 hours to figure out how to get into mine
[18:21] <Kilos> rofl
[18:21] <Golynx> :D
[18:21] <Kilos> i really battled to open ians years back and that was after he had broken lots of the clips and screw holes
[18:21] <captine> lol.  model is 2012 (late). so still pretty new.  i will check.  just know if doesnt run this hot under osx
[18:21] <Kilos> terrible things
[18:22] <theblazehen> Golynx: ah, ok
[18:22] <Kilos> captine, what os you have on there?
[18:22] <theblazehen> Was hoping you could compile or whatever to an apk
[18:23] <captine> just cleared osx and running 14.04 only (installed daily build yesterday)
[18:23] <captine> very stable
[18:23] <Kilos> and its running hotter than yesterday?
[18:24] <captine> no
[18:24] <captine> hotter than osx
[18:24] <captine> which i used a while back
[18:24] <captine> had 12.04 on and it was cooler, but think i had installed the mactel ports
[18:24] <captine> i mean mactel ppa
[18:24] <captine> software
[18:24] <Kilos> has osx got serious graprhics like ubuntu?
[18:25] <captine> lol.  
[18:26] <Kilos> apart from dust and dirt inside it shouldnt run hotter
[18:26] <Kilos> imo anyway
[18:26] <Kilos> you must bumped it and just all fell down where is makes things heat worse
[18:26] <captine> apple has some pretty crazy power saving settings etc from what I have heard.  think the hotter running issue happens on other macs.... the problem with using mac...
[18:28] <Kilos> can you feel the heat on the keyboard or how you know its getting hot
[18:31] <captine> yip.  keyboard is pretty warm
[18:31] <theblazehen> captine: can you run "sensors" ?
[18:32] <captine> will try
[18:33] <Golynx> theblazehen: i think this is the closest to what you wana do https://ep2013.europython.eu/conference/talks/developing-android-apps-completely-in-python
[18:33] <captine> core 0 and core 1 are 70 and 71 degrees respectively
[18:34] <captine> sensors states the high is 87 and critical is 105
[18:34] <Golynx> its kinda sad, python would be a perfect language for android
[18:34] <theblazehen> Golynx: thanks
[18:34] <captine> one sensor (not sure what it is) is at 80 degrees.
[18:34] <theblazehen> captine: and "uptime" ?
[18:34] <captine> 20:34:36 up 35 min,  4 users,  load average: 0,41, 0,53, 0,64
[18:35] <Golynx> captine: thats kinda high
[18:35] <captine> reminds me... i must get conky working
[18:35] <captine> Golynx, yip
[18:35] <captine> have set cpuscaling to powersave while I figure this out
[18:35] <theblazehen> I should also get a conky.. But I never see may wallpapaer :(
[18:36] <Golynx> mine runs at somewhere at 50 - 65 degrees
[18:36] <Golynx> it was 80 - 110 degrees before i cleaned it
[18:36] <captine> theblazehen, that is one thing that i was wondering about.  prefer a indicator icon
[18:38] <Kilos> there is a package called fancontrol
[18:39] <theblazehen> Kilos: but temp is really high... I'd rather have high fan
[18:40] <Kilos> yeah maybe fancontrol can rev it up
[18:40] <Kilos> my cpu runs cool
[18:40] <Kilos> Physical id 0:  +31.0°C  (high = +85.0°C, crit = +105.0°C)
[18:41] <Kilos> core0=28 and core1=31
[18:42] <captine> nice and cool
[18:42] <captine> i was watching lots of youtube.. maybe it will cool now
[18:46] <theblazehen> captine: html5 or flash?
[18:46] <Kilos> good luck. maybe google for instructions on how to strip it to clean inside
[18:46] <Kilos> sleep tight all of you
[18:46] <Kilos> see ya tomorrow
[18:48] <captine> was playing it through VLC... so not sure what that uses.  I had set my youtube account for html5 where available
[18:49] <theblazehen> captine: should be good then. Flash kills CPU on linux
[19:02] <theblazehen> night all
[19:17] <smile> see ya :p
[19:18] <Golynx> take care smile 
[19:18] <smile> thanks :)
[19:18] <Golynx> night all