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eagles0513875_hey Mirv  Israel asked if you are going to take care of getting his work merged06:14
Mirveagles0513875_: so the "merging" would be "uploading", and I can't do that. I can only continue reviewing his changes (but he hasn't done any new to the branch)06:19
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zequenceOvenWerk1: Yeah, I posted that bug to you before, asking if you have had any usb poblems, but I suppose you haven't (usb1.1)06:49
zequenceFor no reason, waking up on release day, I hear this in my head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K9806:51
zequence(Also sprach Zarathustra)06:52
elfylucky you - I always wake with this in my head :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUIDlQUj9Y06:53
elfyzequence: you'll be pleased to know that I don't see the ibus indicator in 32bit this morning :)06:54
zequenceelfy: That's a relief :)06:54
elfyjust doing an install with it for you 06:55
zequenceOvenWerk1: I'll ask the kernel devs. We can't have diffs between -generic and -lowlatency, or we have to start maintaining it again. It's one and the same kernel, so all changes go into master06:56
elfyzequence: once this is all done and dusted you are going to need a specific install testcase - no-one else has a pick audio/video etc option 06:56
zequenceelfy: Yes, there are a lot of things we could do to improve testing :P06:57
elfybug 1308877 and I've even assigned myself to it ;)06:59
ubottubug 1308877 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Testcase is too basic for UbuntuStudio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130887706:59
elfyzequence: well I will be about more this coming cycle if you want help :)07:00
elfyzequence: and it didn't sneak in ibus so I passed it 07:16
zequenceelfy: I almost don't dare to listen too much on that music you linked to, so I don't end up having it in my head all the time08:11
zequenceCool stuff though08:11
elfyha ha ha 08:12
* elfy has been listening to it for years and years08:13
zequencebreakfest, coffee, and then, zsync08:15
elfyI'd zsync, breakfast, coffee - it was REALLY slow earlier 08:17
zequenceI'm at zsync already, and no worries, I already got one ISO down08:19
zequenceelfy: I still have the wrong keyboard layout in the login screen, but able to change it08:38
zequenceAfter doing it once, it stays08:40
zequenceI also get the wrong language. I chose English, but with Swedish kb layout. I got Swedish language setting and US kb layout08:51
zequenceThe wrong way around08:51
elfyzequence: I did see talk in -quality of a few language issues - not sure if those are what you're seeing09:01
elfyI never got affected at login screen - that was always correct here 09:01
zequenceok09:01
elfycan't see anything on the image tracker list that looks similar though09:02
elfys/bug list09:02
zequencesince you probably have the same kb and language setting, you should have both right in the session too09:02
elfyyea09:02
zequenceelfy: After installation, are you able to shut down normally? I haven't tried with a real machine yet.09:12
zequenceFrom the live seesion, that is09:13
elfyyea - all that worked fine here09:14
cubhi all11:28
zequencecub: hi11:29
zequenceJust about mark us as ready, but that doesn't mean one can't stop testing :)11:29
cubhehe11:30
cubI haven't had a chance to run tests since beta211:30
cubthough I'm running a 14.04 32 bit on my usb stick here11:30
cubbut I reckon I won't get rid of the old bugs until I reinstall?11:31
zequencecub: Which one, the ibus thing?11:32
zequenceIt's enough to purge the ibus package11:32
cubI did that, but still have the keyboard issue on the login. Also two clocks in my bar11:32
cubas well as bluetooth which I removed weeks ago but was pulled in yesterday again..weird11:33
zequencecub: You have unity-control-center installed from before11:33
zequencealso, gnome-control-center11:33
zequencebluetooth was added since we added blueman11:34
cubunity-control-center said it would be removed when I uninstalled stuff just now11:34
cubaha, i removed blueman again, but should probably done a purge11:34
zequenceWell, then. I feel all done. Release notes - partly copied from Ubuntu and Xubuntu, with our own additions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio11:35
zequenceJust the wait to publish remains11:36
cubI don't know if you want to mention that the installation now supports both braille and speech?11:39
zequencecub: Ah, yes11:40
zequencecub: Feel free to add to it. I'm heading home, will take a look later11:40
cubright, it's on the wiki11:40
cubbah I give up. I've logged in on the wiki 5 times, and the last time after editing and pressing save it went back to no being logged in and changes scrapped.11:53
eagles0513875_hey Mirv 13:39
eagles0513875_Mirv: included you in an email maybe you can explain the issues with the current fixed package of lmms please on the mailing list13:40
Mirveagles0513875_: not seeing e-mail, but I've responded to two Israel's e-mails. I really think the best place to discuss the packaging is the bug report and the merge request.13:47
eagles0513875_mirv i have the whole mailing list eating me alive as they dont seem to understand what the current issue is with the current package13:51
zequenceeagles0513875_: There's no hurry to fix it now, since release is just hours away now, and nothing more is to be changed before release13:59
zequenceeagles0513875_: As soon as the package is ready, someone can just file an SRU bug for it, and get it uploaded withing the next coming weeks13:59
eagles0513875_any chance you could mention that on the bug zequence 14:00
eagles0513875_as everyone is panicked about getting it sorted asap14:01
eagles0513875_i thought we had until the end of the month for release14:01
Mirvthere seems to be quite a lot of fear and uncertainty, but that must be because people are not familiar with how distributions work etc14:02
Mirvas said, there's no hurry really, since SRU it is anyway14:03
Mirvpeople may fear also because they think SRU:s don't happen (users get the feeling when their favorite software don't get upraded), but it's really only a question of doing the update and following the process steps, there's nothing particularly scary or problematic about those14:04
Mirvthere just needs to be checks in place, since it's available to millions of users14:04
zequenceI commented on the bug. Proposed to patch the current package in the repo so that the experimental features disappear, and just increment the version to 0ubuntu214:12
eagles0513875_zequence: thing is we already have a new package built from the right tarball but its become 1.0.114:19
eagles0513875_which Mirv  mentioned would be incorrect14:19
zequenceeagles0513875_: The package is not doable, which is why it needs to be fixed14:20
zequenceIt's not ready14:20
eagles0513875_zequence: i understand14:20
zequenceIf it were, it would be in the repos now14:20
eagles0513875_i dont know if its worth doign as you said and patch out the stuff that shouldnt be there but doing that there is still an issue of it being from the wrong branch and hence still unstable14:21
zequenceThe diff in the new package is mostly text, not code. Patching the existing package in the repo would not be a lot of work, if someone is used to do that14:22
zequenceAnd, no need to change something that is not causing errors. Just the parts that are14:22
zequenceMy estimate, from reading the diff was that not much needed to be changed14:22
zequenceThe positive side of this is, lmms 1.0 is in. It won't go away, and it can be fixed at any time14:27
holsteinzequence: i didnt imly it did14:37
holsteinimple*14:37
holsteinimply*14:37
zequenceholstein: I think we might have cross written a bit there :)14:38
holsteinmaybe14:38
zequencettoine: Hi15:34
ttoinehello15:38
ttoinei am downloading 14.04 on oxford university mirror15:38
ttoinezequence, ready to officially download ?15:41
holsteininfo lmms saucy17:25
holstein!info lmms saucy17:25
holstein!info lmms17:26
ubottulmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.15-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 4455 kB, installed size 10100 kB17:26
ubottulmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0+bzr2569-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 4599 kB, installed size 12270 kB17:26
holstein!info lmms trusty17:27
ubottulmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0+bzr2569-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 4599 kB, installed size 12270 kB17:27
holsteinzequence: question.. do you have access to the website?18:15
zequenceholstein: Yep. And so do you :)18:18
holsteinzequence: i'll edit if you remind me how.. 18:19
zequenceholstein: Is there a mistake somewhere?18:19
holsteinhttp://ubuntustudio.org/download/18:19
zequenceholstein: You can login from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K9818:19
holsteinhas it been updated for 14.04? and im just not refreshed?18:19
zequenceI haven't seen the release announcement yet18:20
holstein!isitout18:20
ubottuyes, it is out! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-April/000182.html18:20
zequenceAh, ok. I was just out18:20
holsteinit just happened. 18:20
zequenceBeen doing this for a few days, so it's not like I've forgotten18:20
holstein:)18:21
holsteinours may not be hot hyet18:21
holsteinyet*18:21
zequencethey should all be out, once the release announcement comes18:22
zequencethey wait until all is mature for download, even if the ISOs are all out18:22
holsteini may be in the wrong place.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/trusty/release/18:22
zequencei can't see any ISOs out yet18:23
zequenceSeems like they've changed their habit. Ubuntu has it's own url for releases now18:25
zequenceAh, not it's old18:25
zequenceOk, they're working on it18:26
zequenceI'm going to prepare a release announcement. There's no particular hurry, really. Just that we do it soon18:27
holsteinzequence: nah.. not hurry.. just wanting to get the links hot and all that before anyone notices18:27
zequenceholstein: the download links themselves already work18:34
zequenceholstein: However, the final release is just a copy of the latest current18:34
zequenceso, which ever one you want18:34
zequencethe download links work, even if you can't see them on the page18:35
zequenceso, if you take an old one, an just mod it, it should work18:35
holsteini'll try them and make sure.. 18:35
holsteinzequence: remind me how to edit the site?18:35
holsteinthat youtube link is not doing it for me ;)18:35
zequenceholstein: I'll do that. I'm preparing a release announcement anyway18:35
zequenceyoutube link?18:36
holstein14:19 < zequence> holstein: You can login from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K9818:37
zequenceholstein: Hehe18:47
holsteinzequence: i got in.. i'll chip away at the update, if you like18:47
zequenceholstein: http://ubuntustudio.org/wp-admin18:47
zequenceholstein: Sure. I'm still working on the release announcement as we speak18:48
holsteinok.. cheers18:48
holsteini'll try not to break anything :)18:48
holsteinzequence: question. we have 13.10 and 12.04 listed.. should we just list 14.04 now?18:51
zequenceholstein: No, we can keep listing 12.04 as the old LTS, since it's supported for another year at least18:55
holsteinOK18:55
holsteinzequence: but, just 12.04 and 14.04? correct?18:56
zequenceholstein: Yeah18:56
holsteini backed up the text from the site so i dont break anything.. im working on checking links nad editing18:57
holsteinzequence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Trusty/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio is where you put the notes?18:59
zequenceholstein: almost .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio19:00
holsteinof course..19:00
holsteinthanks19:00
holsteinzequence: additional question..19:10
holsteinmy torrent links and sums are 404'ing19:10
holsteindo you have a better link?19:10
holsteinhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04.4/release/SHA256SUMS for example19:10
zequenceholstein: Might be we need to wait for those. If the download links work, I'm ok with that for now19:12
holsteinzequence: i'll try and comment out the broken stuff temporarily19:12
zequenceholstein: Or, I just wait with the announcement19:13
zequenceholstein: They're starting to get populated now19:14
zequencethe download pages, I mean19:14
zequencechecksums are up19:15
zequence..or were19:15
zequencewell, I'm going to chill for a while. I'll check in periodically. Once the pages look good, I do the release announcement19:17
holsteinzequence: if you're ok with it, i'll leave it for now19:17
holsteinbut, if they are 404'ing, or wrong, i'll address it if you want19:17
zequenceholstein: Just leave it :)19:21
holsteinzequence: ok.. i think i got them edited properly to what they should become.. the direct links and release notes works..19:21
holsteinzequence: all is well :)19:29
zequenceholstein: Great. Just got back from the store for the second time (forgot some stuff there). Going to publish announcements shortly20:14
zequenceOk, I'm over and out. Will just check in from time to time until after easter.20:37
zequence..then the new cycle beings, muhahahaa20:46
* OvenWerk1 got home just in time to miss it...20:50
zequenceeagles0513875: I'm done with the release. If no one has done anything with the package by the end of next week, I might take some time to look at it.21:50
eagles0513875zequence: israel is working on it23:21

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