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[06:14] <eagles0513875_> hey Mirv  Israel asked if you are going to take care of getting his work merged
[06:19] <Mirv> eagles0513875_: so the "merging" would be "uploading", and I can't do that. I can only continue reviewing his changes (but he hasn't done any new to the branch)
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[06:49] <zequence> OvenWerk1: Yeah, I posted that bug to you before, asking if you have had any usb poblems, but I suppose you haven't (usb1.1)
[06:51] <zequence> For no reason, waking up on release day, I hear this in my head - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K98
[06:52] <zequence> (Also sprach Zarathustra)
[06:53] <elfy> lucky you - I always wake with this in my head :p https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqUIDlQUj9Y
[06:54] <elfy> zequence: you'll be pleased to know that I don't see the ibus indicator in 32bit this morning :)
[06:54] <zequence> elfy: That's a relief :)
[06:55] <elfy> just doing an install with it for you 
[06:56] <zequence> OvenWerk1: I'll ask the kernel devs. We can't have diffs between -generic and -lowlatency, or we have to start maintaining it again. It's one and the same kernel, so all changes go into master
[06:56] <elfy> zequence: once this is all done and dusted you are going to need a specific install testcase - no-one else has a pick audio/video etc option 
[06:57] <zequence> elfy: Yes, there are a lot of things we could do to improve testing :P
[06:59] <elfy> bug 1308877 and I've even assigned myself to it ;)
[06:59] <ubottu> bug 1308877 in Ubuntu Manual Tests "Testcase is too basic for UbuntuStudio" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308877
[07:00] <elfy> zequence: well I will be about more this coming cycle if you want help :)
[07:16] <elfy> zequence: and it didn't sneak in ibus so I passed it 
[08:11] <zequence> elfy: I almost don't dare to listen too much on that music you linked to, so I don't end up having it in my head all the time
[08:11] <zequence> Cool stuff though
[08:12] <elfy> ha ha ha 
[08:13]  * elfy has been listening to it for years and years
[08:15] <zequence> breakfest, coffee, and then, zsync
[08:17] <elfy> I'd zsync, breakfast, coffee - it was REALLY slow earlier 
[08:19] <zequence> I'm at zsync already, and no worries, I already got one ISO down
[08:38] <zequence> elfy: I still have the wrong keyboard layout in the login screen, but able to change it
[08:40] <zequence> After doing it once, it stays
[08:51] <zequence> I also get the wrong language. I chose English, but with Swedish kb layout. I got Swedish language setting and US kb layout
[08:51] <zequence> The wrong way around
[09:01] <elfy> zequence: I did see talk in -quality of a few language issues - not sure if those are what you're seeing
[09:01] <elfy> I never got affected at login screen - that was always correct here 
[09:01] <zequence> ok
[09:02] <elfy> can't see anything on the image tracker list that looks similar though
[09:02] <elfy> s/bug list
[09:02] <zequence> since you probably have the same kb and language setting, you should have both right in the session too
[09:02] <elfy> yea
[09:12] <zequence> elfy: After installation, are you able to shut down normally? I haven't tried with a real machine yet.
[09:13] <zequence> From the live seesion, that is
[09:14] <elfy> yea - all that worked fine here
[11:28] <cub> hi all
[11:29] <zequence> cub: hi
[11:29] <zequence> Just about mark us as ready, but that doesn't mean one can't stop testing :)
[11:30] <cub> hehe
[11:30] <cub> I haven't had a chance to run tests since beta2
[11:30] <cub> though I'm running a 14.04 32 bit on my usb stick here
[11:31] <cub> but I reckon I won't get rid of the old bugs until I reinstall?
[11:32] <zequence> cub: Which one, the ibus thing?
[11:32] <zequence> It's enough to purge the ibus package
[11:32] <cub> I did that, but still have the keyboard issue on the login. Also two clocks in my bar
[11:33] <cub> as well as bluetooth which I removed weeks ago but was pulled in yesterday again..weird
[11:33] <zequence> cub: You have unity-control-center installed from before
[11:33] <zequence> also, gnome-control-center
[11:34] <zequence> bluetooth was added since we added blueman
[11:34] <cub> unity-control-center said it would be removed when I uninstalled stuff just now
[11:34] <cub> aha, i removed blueman again, but should probably done a purge
[11:35] <zequence> Well, then. I feel all done. Release notes - partly copied from Ubuntu and Xubuntu, with our own additions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[11:36] <zequence> Just the wait to publish remains
[11:39] <cub> I don't know if you want to mention that the installation now supports both braille and speech?
[11:40] <zequence> cub: Ah, yes
[11:40] <zequence> cub: Feel free to add to it. I'm heading home, will take a look later
[11:40] <cub> right, it's on the wiki
[11:53] <cub> bah I give up. I've logged in on the wiki 5 times, and the last time after editing and pressing save it went back to no being logged in and changes scrapped.
[13:39] <eagles0513875_> hey Mirv 
[13:40] <eagles0513875_> Mirv: included you in an email maybe you can explain the issues with the current fixed package of lmms please on the mailing list
[13:47] <Mirv> eagles0513875_: not seeing e-mail, but I've responded to two Israel's e-mails. I really think the best place to discuss the packaging is the bug report and the merge request.
[13:51] <eagles0513875_> mirv i have the whole mailing list eating me alive as they dont seem to understand what the current issue is with the current package
[13:59] <zequence> eagles0513875_: There's no hurry to fix it now, since release is just hours away now, and nothing more is to be changed before release
[13:59] <zequence> eagles0513875_: As soon as the package is ready, someone can just file an SRU bug for it, and get it uploaded withing the next coming weeks
[14:00] <eagles0513875_> any chance you could mention that on the bug zequence 
[14:01] <eagles0513875_> as everyone is panicked about getting it sorted asap
[14:01] <eagles0513875_> i thought we had until the end of the month for release
[14:02] <Mirv> there seems to be quite a lot of fear and uncertainty, but that must be because people are not familiar with how distributions work etc
[14:03] <Mirv> as said, there's no hurry really, since SRU it is anyway
[14:04] <Mirv> people may fear also because they think SRU:s don't happen (users get the feeling when their favorite software don't get upraded), but it's really only a question of doing the update and following the process steps, there's nothing particularly scary or problematic about those
[14:04] <Mirv> there just needs to be checks in place, since it's available to millions of users
[14:12] <zequence> I commented on the bug. Proposed to patch the current package in the repo so that the experimental features disappear, and just increment the version to 0ubuntu2
[14:19] <eagles0513875_> zequence: thing is we already have a new package built from the right tarball but its become 1.0.1
[14:19] <eagles0513875_> which Mirv  mentioned would be incorrect
[14:20] <zequence> eagles0513875_: The package is not doable, which is why it needs to be fixed
[14:20] <zequence> It's not ready
[14:20] <eagles0513875_> zequence: i understand
[14:20] <zequence> If it were, it would be in the repos now
[14:21] <eagles0513875_> i dont know if its worth doign as you said and patch out the stuff that shouldnt be there but doing that there is still an issue of it being from the wrong branch and hence still unstable
[14:22] <zequence> The diff in the new package is mostly text, not code. Patching the existing package in the repo would not be a lot of work, if someone is used to do that
[14:22] <zequence> And, no need to change something that is not causing errors. Just the parts that are
[14:22] <zequence> My estimate, from reading the diff was that not much needed to be changed
[14:27] <zequence> The positive side of this is, lmms 1.0 is in. It won't go away, and it can be fixed at any time
[14:37] <holstein> zequence: i didnt imly it did
[14:37] <holstein> imple*
[14:37] <holstein> imply*
[14:38] <zequence> holstein: I think we might have cross written a bit there :)
[14:38] <holstein> maybe
[15:34] <zequence> ttoine: Hi
[15:38] <ttoine> hello
[15:38] <ttoine> i am downloading 14.04 on oxford university mirror
[15:41] <ttoine> zequence, ready to officially download ?
[17:25] <holstein> info lmms saucy
[17:25] <holstein> !info lmms saucy
[17:26] <holstein> !info lmms
[17:26] <ubottu> lmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4.15-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 4455 kB, installed size 10100 kB
[17:26] <ubottu> lmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0+bzr2569-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 4599 kB, installed size 12270 kB
[17:27] <holstein> !info lmms trusty
[17:27] <ubottu> lmms (source: lmms): Linux Multimedia Studio. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.0+bzr2569-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 4599 kB, installed size 12270 kB
[18:15] <holstein> zequence: question.. do you have access to the website?
[18:18] <zequence> holstein: Yep. And so do you :)
[18:19] <holstein> zequence: i'll edit if you remind me how.. 
[18:19] <zequence> holstein: Is there a mistake somewhere?
[18:19] <holstein> http://ubuntustudio.org/download/
[18:19] <zequence> holstein: You can login from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K98
[18:19] <holstein> has it been updated for 14.04? and im just not refreshed?
[18:20] <zequence> I haven't seen the release announcement yet
[18:20] <holstein> !isitout
[18:20] <ubottu> yes, it is out! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-April/000182.html
[18:20] <zequence> Ah, ok. I was just out
[18:20] <holstein> it just happened. 
[18:20] <zequence> Been doing this for a few days, so it's not like I've forgotten
[18:21] <holstein> :)
[18:21] <holstein> ours may not be hot hyet
[18:21] <holstein> yet*
[18:22] <zequence> they should all be out, once the release announcement comes
[18:22] <zequence> they wait until all is mature for download, even if the ISOs are all out
[18:22] <holstein> i may be in the wrong place.. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/trusty/release/
[18:23] <zequence> i can't see any ISOs out yet
[18:25] <zequence> Seems like they've changed their habit. Ubuntu has it's own url for releases now
[18:25] <zequence> Ah, not it's old
[18:26] <zequence> Ok, they're working on it
[18:27] <zequence> I'm going to prepare a release announcement. There's no particular hurry, really. Just that we do it soon
[18:27] <holstein> zequence: nah.. not hurry.. just wanting to get the links hot and all that before anyone notices
[18:34] <zequence> holstein: the download links themselves already work
[18:34] <zequence> holstein: However, the final release is just a copy of the latest current
[18:34] <zequence> so, which ever one you want
[18:35] <zequence> the download links work, even if you can't see them on the page
[18:35] <zequence> so, if you take an old one, an just mod it, it should work
[18:35] <holstein> i'll try them and make sure.. 
[18:35] <holstein> zequence: remind me how to edit the site?
[18:35] <holstein> that youtube link is not doing it for me ;)
[18:35] <zequence> holstein: I'll do that. I'm preparing a release announcement anyway
[18:36] <zequence> youtube link?
[18:37] <holstein> 14:19 < zequence> holstein: You can login from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFPwm0e_K98
[18:47] <zequence> holstein: Hehe
[18:47] <holstein> zequence: i got in.. i'll chip away at the update, if you like
[18:47] <zequence> holstein: http://ubuntustudio.org/wp-admin
[18:48] <zequence> holstein: Sure. I'm still working on the release announcement as we speak
[18:48] <holstein> ok.. cheers
[18:48] <holstein> i'll try not to break anything :)
[18:51] <holstein> zequence: question. we have 13.10 and 12.04 listed.. should we just list 14.04 now?
[18:55] <zequence> holstein: No, we can keep listing 12.04 as the old LTS, since it's supported for another year at least
[18:55] <holstein> OK
[18:56] <holstein> zequence: but, just 12.04 and 14.04? correct?
[18:56] <zequence> holstein: Yeah
[18:57] <holstein> i backed up the text from the site so i dont break anything.. im working on checking links nad editing
[18:59] <holstein> zequence: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Trusty/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio is where you put the notes?
[19:00] <zequence> holstein: almost .. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuStudio
[19:00] <holstein> of course..
[19:00] <holstein> thanks
[19:10] <holstein> zequence: additional question..
[19:10] <holstein> my torrent links and sums are 404'ing
[19:10] <holstein> do you have a better link?
[19:10] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/releases/12.04.4/release/SHA256SUMS for example
[19:12] <zequence> holstein: Might be we need to wait for those. If the download links work, I'm ok with that for now
[19:12] <holstein> zequence: i'll try and comment out the broken stuff temporarily
[19:13] <zequence> holstein: Or, I just wait with the announcement
[19:14] <zequence> holstein: They're starting to get populated now
[19:14] <zequence> the download pages, I mean
[19:15] <zequence> checksums are up
[19:15] <zequence> ..or were
[19:17] <zequence> well, I'm going to chill for a while. I'll check in periodically. Once the pages look good, I do the release announcement
[19:17] <holstein> zequence: if you're ok with it, i'll leave it for now
[19:17] <holstein> but, if they are 404'ing, or wrong, i'll address it if you want
[19:21] <zequence> holstein: Just leave it :)
[19:21] <holstein> zequence: ok.. i think i got them edited properly to what they should become.. the direct links and release notes works..
[19:29] <holstein> zequence: all is well :)
[20:14] <zequence> holstein: Great. Just got back from the store for the second time (forgot some stuff there). Going to publish announcements shortly
[20:37] <zequence> Ok, I'm over and out. Will just check in from time to time until after easter.
[20:46] <zequence> ..then the new cycle beings, muhahahaa
[20:50]  * OvenWerk1 got home just in time to miss it...
[21:50] <zequence> eagles0513875: I'm done with the release. If no one has done anything with the package by the end of next week, I might take some time to look at it.
[23:21] <eagles0513875> zequence: israel is working on it