[02:10] <staxxx> I've been searching the web, tutorials and all but still couldn find a way to connect my laptop to my desktop. both run linux os and i'd like to login trhu terminal and execute commands and copy files between machines. any help please?
[02:10] <holstein> staxxx: there are many ways to do that
[02:11] <holstein> !ssh | staxxx
[02:11] <holstein> ^ i use ssh on my local lan for *all* machines.. and on many remote servers
[02:11] <holstein> i can connect through the terminal and scp files, or connect to the ssh server via sftp with something like filezilla or gigolo
[02:11] <holstein> !scp
[02:11] <holstein> !gigolo
[02:11] <staxxx> Its all to complicated since there are many ways I cant seem to get it right. I dont have  a modem both machines connect to the internet via hot stop
[02:12] <holstein> !info gigolo
[02:12] <staxxx> hotpot
[02:12] <staxxx> gigolo connects via a gui right?
[02:13] <staxxx> I'd like to log in via terminal ad execute commands for example shut down my desktop trhu my laptop
[02:13] <holstein> staxxx: ssh requires network connection, though, you can test locally to see if the server is working
[02:13] <holstein> staxxx: you want ssh
[02:13] <holstein> staxxx: if your machine is not connected to a network, you wont access it from a network
[02:13] <staxxx> Any place with a good and simple tutorial?
[02:13] <holstein> you address the connectivity, and use ssh
[02:13] <staxxx> both machines connect to a hotspot
[02:13] <holstein> staxxx: sure.. the link i gave is a *great* start
[02:14] <holstein> and "setup ssh server on ubuntu" link should be fine, such as http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/ubuntu/setup-openssh-server-on-ubuntu-linux/
[02:14] <holstein> staxxx: you can either use the hotspots like this, or not
[02:14] <staxxx> ok thanks I'll check the link
[02:14] <holstein> staxxx: nothing about linux is preventing you from connecting
[02:15] <holstein> staxxx: i have configured a few hotspots that allow port forwarding, and a few that do not
[02:15] <holstein> i suggest getting a cheapo router (*any* cheap/free router from anywhere), and connect the 2 machines and test/learn about ssh that way
[02:16] <staxxx> I'll start the journey
[02:17] <staxxx> It's the linux way I guess... But I enjoy it
[02:17] <holstein> what is?
[02:17] <holstein> your hotspots have nothing to do with the OS you are using
[02:17] <staxxx> searching, reading
[02:17] <staxxx> learning
[02:18] <holstein> you would need to forward ports for samba, or ftp, or whatever else
[02:18] <staxxx> yes I guess so. I get around with computers pretty well but networking is my handicap
[02:18] <holstein> otherwise, just use dropbox, or some other tool that solves this for you
[02:18] <staxxx> dropbox won't allow me to execute commands from one machine to another
[02:19] <staxxx> I've been really into writting scripts lately and I'd like to execute my scripts from one machine to another
[02:19] <holstein> staxxx: just keep in mind, networking is independent of operating systems
[02:20] <staxxx> It's not really as much as transfering files between machines, is more about logging in remotedly via termminal and executing commands
[02:20] <staxxx> yes ok
[02:21] <staxxx> I wrote  a sricpt that shuts down the machine at a given time. for example if I leave the house and forget to turn off the desktop i'd like to use my laptop to login remotedly and turn of the desktop
[02:22] <staxxx> sorry for the typos
[13:57] <staxxx> hello everyone. I just woke up to find that my ubuntustudio desktop lost its workplaces. now i have only one and can't add anymore. what happened? yesterday was working just fine???
[13:57] <staxxx> These kind of thing I just can't understand
[13:58] <staxxx> Today I turned it on and all was fine and sudenly lost the workplaces and the desktop is acting funny
[13:58] <staxxx> what is this???
[14:00] <staxxx> any help please?? this is very unreliable for serous work. suddenly all is messed up
[14:02] <cfhowlett> staxxx acting "funny"? means ... what?
[14:02] <staxxx> only one workplace
[14:02] <cfhowlett> staxxx and screenshots
[14:02] <staxxx> can't add more
[14:02] <staxxx> windows dont show the x close button
[14:03] <staxxx> I'm about to give a class now and this happens
[14:03] <cfhowlett> staxxx guess that your xfce4 (windows environment) got fragged ...
[14:03] <staxxx> how??
[14:03] <cfhowlett> staxxx 12.04???
[14:03] <staxxx> how can this happen? how can i prevent this? I need to work
[14:03] <staxxx> yes 12.04
[14:04] <staxxx> I know when its me tweaking and messing the system but this happened without my intervention
[14:05] <staxxx> any help on how to fix this?
[14:07] <staxxx> .............
[14:08] <cfhowlett> staxxx my suggestion would be to nuke your xfce3 settings and reset to default
[14:08] <staxxx> how thats cool. how do i do that?
[14:08] <cfhowlett> staxxx go to your /home and display .hidden folders
[14:09] <staxxx> done
[14:10] <staxxx> what next?
[14:11] <cfhowlett> staxxx wait 1 looking for the xfce4   configuration files
[14:11] <staxxx> ok
[14:12] <staxxx> thank you
[14:16] <cfhowlett> staxxx go it:   /home/.confg/xfce4   and xfce4-dict    rename those, e.g. xfce4BACKUP    then logout/login and reset
[14:16] <staxxx> rename both folders?
[14:18] <cfhowlett> staxxx yea we want them both to reset
[14:27] <biombidil> salut
[14:27] <biombidil> morning
[14:28] <holstein> staxxx: unreliable? you are the only one losing workspaces, so, try and not assume its a shortcoming of the OS\
[14:28] <cfhowlett> biombidil greetings
[14:29] <holstein> staxxx: you may prefer using something you are more familiar with? such as unity from main ubuntu with the studio tools?
[14:29] <holstein> staxxx: what desktop environment are you coming from?
[14:29] <zequence> the only thing in life you can rely on is that you can't rely on anything :)
[14:30] <biombidil> ubuntu studio
[14:31] <biombidil> 12
[14:31] <cfhowlett> biombidil what is your actual question?
[14:32] <biombidil> how can i update vlc
[14:33] <cfhowlett> biombidil sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:34] <biombidil> thanks
[14:35] <zequence> vlc is not updated to new versions, it only gets bug fixes
[14:35] <zequence> if you want the most recent version, one way to do that is add a PPA that has it
[14:35] <biombidil> but i do not know how to use the command line interface
[14:35] <holstein> biombidil: you dont have to
[14:36] <zequence> Like this one https://launchpad.net/~videolan/+archive/stable-daily
[14:36] <holstein> biombidil: you can use the package manager of your choice to add/install vlc, then the update manager of your choice to update the pacakges to the most recent version in the repositories/source
[14:36] <holstein> sources*
[14:36] <zequence> They don't get updated to the most recent version holstein
[14:36] <holstein> biombidil: if you want a newer version, you can add a PPA, or ask vlc for a version
[14:36] <zequence> just security updates
[14:37] <zequence> Like I said, one way to do it is add a PPA, like the one I just linked to
[14:38] <biombidil> thanks
[14:39] <holstein> biombidil: you would want to use the terminal/commandline to add that ppa.. though, you can add the sources with a GUI if you prefer
[14:39] <holstein> i suggest using the latest from the repos, and not adding a ppa
[14:39] <zequence> biombidil: If you want to add that PPA (but, understand that it changes your system), do: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:videolan/stable-daily
[14:39] <biombidil> for each intervention
[14:39] <zequence> then, just update your system
[14:40] <zequence> The good thing about that PPA is it only contains updates to vlc packages, not other things
[14:41] <zequence> So, you will only be changing vlc. Nothing else
[14:41] <biombidil> i want to implement the file system with c language
[14:42] <biombidil> excuse for  my english i am francophone
[16:46] <marbangens> I get 404 not found when I try to download ubuntu studio beta 2
[16:46] <holstein> marbangens: ok.. i suggest not doing that
[16:46] <holstein> marbangens: i suggest a little patience, and just get main 14.04 when its released
[16:47] <holstein> marbangens: the servers are getting hammered right now
[16:47] <marbangens> okej
[18:29] <staxxx> hey holstein I'm back remember me?
[18:29] <holstein> staxxx: no.. but welcome
[18:29] <staxxx> :)
[18:29] <staxxx> the guy with the desktop messed up
[18:29] <holstein> lol
[18:30] <staxxx> yes
[18:30] <holstein> like that clears it up any ;)
[18:30] <staxxx> humm lol
[18:30] <staxxx> let me recap
[18:31] <staxxx> Today I turned on my laptop and everything was fine until I opened a few windows and my workplaces dissapeared, now I have only one (and can't add anymore) and the windows are funny with no borders with the x to clese them and so on
[18:32] <holstein> sounds like a 3d issue, or a graphics or x crash
[18:32] <holstein> sounds like you are trying to use compiz with XFCE
[18:32] <staxxx> you suggested something relatet to xfce
[18:32] <staxxx> well I did use it! now you mentioned it I remember
[18:32] <staxxx> but it was a few days ago
[18:32] <holstein> staxxx: so, dont do that
[18:33] <staxxx> ok now I know what caused it
[18:33] <holstein> staxxx: undo whatevrer you did to force compiz, get your system back to default, and test
[18:33] <staxxx> finally
[18:33] <staxxx> tahnk you
[18:33] <staxxx> thank you
[18:33] <holstein> then, we can try and addresss what you need from copmiz
[18:33] <holstein> i didnt say compiz becuase we dont ship it
[18:34] <staxxx> I made  a few changes but It was a few days ago. Is it normal to only crash today?
[18:34] <holstein> staxxx: its not "normal" to use compiz with xfce
[18:34] <staxxx> ok now I know
[18:34] <holstein> if you are, then i would start there, and as i said, try and get back to default, and we go from there
[18:35] <staxxx> how do I get back to the default desktop. I know I'll lose my settings but... there's no other way right?
[18:35] <holstein> staxxx: youd need to elaboartate about what you have done
[18:36] <holstein> staxxx: you should see a guide for using copix that suggests how to switch back
[18:36] <staxxx> okok I'll go around it and get back if I need help
[18:36] <holstein> compiz*
[18:36] <holstein> staxxx: probably metacity --replace
[18:37] <holstein> buti hadnt done it first hand in quite a few releases
[18:38] <staxxx> ok so now I unchecked a few changes I had made. Now I should reboot the system right?
[18:39] <staxxx> unchecked changes made in compiz
[18:41] <staxxx> I'll reboot the sys
[18:46] <staxxx> hey I'm back just rebooted the sys
[18:47] <staxxx> no changes. could it be something related to opengl?
[18:47] <holstein> staxxx: if you added compiz, and have not switched back, do that first
[18:48] <staxxx> you mean uninstall compiz?
[18:48] <holstein> staxxx: ?
[18:48] <holstein> staxxx: you say you are using compiz.. dont use it
[18:48] <holstein> replace the window manager with the defaul
[18:48] <holstein> default*
[18:49] <staxxx> where do I replace the window manager?
[18:49] <holstein> staxxx: i gave a command, but you should look at the guide you used to implment compiz
[18:50] <holstein> metacity --replace is what it used to me
[18:50] <staxxx> gessshhhh
[18:51] <staxxx> what happened? its fixed
[18:51] <holstein> staxxx: so, stop using compiz, and test for a while
[18:51] <staxxx> now this is interesting
[18:51] <holstein> staxxx: you just went back to the default instead of using compiz
[18:52] <staxxx> thank you very much
[18:52] <holstein> staxxx: you can try and implement what youa re trying to do some other way
[18:52] <staxxx> thank you man
[18:52] <holstein> sure
[18:52] <staxxx> funny the windows now look like the windows in humm unity I guess
[18:53] <staxxx> which is great
[20:54] <sergio-br2> hey hello
[20:56] <holstein> o/
[21:06] <sergio-br2> hey holstein
[21:06] <sergio-br2> i'm having problem with Arista in trusty
[21:07] <sergio-br2> probably is not Arista, it's work here in saucy. Maybe some package that get update and does'n talk to Arista
[21:08] <sergio-br2> Bug #1306592
[23:23] <delt> hmm... some pretty bad bugs still present in the final release... "Window manager shortcut keys don’t work after reboot (1292290)"
[23:25] <Unit193> Primary vs Control issue?  I thought xfwm handled those pretty well.
[23:41] <delt> any chance of these bugs being resolved in the next few days?