| james0r2 | how long after the Ubuntu release is xubuntu usually released? | 00:14 |
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| knome | james0r2, at the same time. | 00:20 |
| james0r2 | knome, cool. Is it at some arbitrary time on the 17th? | 00:23 |
| knome | yes, depends on multiple factors | 00:23 |
| knome | we will change the topic of this channel and publish a blog post, update social media etc when it's out | 00:24 |
| james0r2 | okay cool. that was my next question. is there an easy url i can check from my phone? like xubuntu.org/releases/ or something? | 00:25 |
| knome | http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/ will be the release announcement url | 00:26 |
| knome | so once that page has content... it's out. | 00:26 |
| james0r2 | knome, great thx. | 00:26 |
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| xubuntu674 | Hey guys, I'm sure this has been asked a million times today, but is xubuntu 14.04 launching tonight/tomorrow? | 02:14 |
| holstein | !14.04 | xubuntu674 | 02:15 |
| ubottu | xubuntu674: Ubuntu 14.04 (Trusty Tahr) will be the 20th release of Ubuntu. See the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1295 for more info. Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 02:15 |
| Unit193 | !isitout | 02:17 |
| ubottu | Not yet! It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 02:17 |
| xubuntu674 | Rog thanks guys, just excited, got a box begging for a clean install | 02:18 |
| holstein | xubuntu674: download and install it | 02:20 |
| holstein | its just not officially supported yet | 02:21 |
| Travis | Hello | 02:23 |
| Travis | Is there anyone who can assist me with figuring out why my Plantronics Voyager Legend headset won't play sound, yet it's paired? | 02:24 |
| holstein | !audio | 02:24 |
| ubottu | If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings. If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !players and !mp3. | 02:24 |
| holstein | !bluetooth | 02:24 |
| ubottu | For instructions on how to set up bluetooth, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup | 02:24 |
| holstein | Travis: i would just isolate and test.. use a different audio device to make sure audio works.. use a different bluetooth device to test bluetooth.. test on other machines.. test on vedor supported operating systems | 02:25 |
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| jimmy_birer | Hello everybody! | 09:11 |
| junka | hi | 09:11 |
| jimmy_birer | I am facing a problem with my resolution after a kernel update. | 09:11 |
| jimmy_birer | I moved from linux-image-3.11.0-19-generic to 3.11.0.19-lowlatency because my fan wasn't working on the former ( Acer Aspire 5135) | 09:12 |
| jimmy_birer | But now, whatever I do, (add new mode via xrandr, restart X, boot with modeset on or off, acpi on off) nothing helped | 09:12 |
| jimmy_birer | My screen should be 1280x800 (it was at installation) and now it's 1024x768, which is not the optimal. | 09:13 |
| jimmy_birer | Question is, what can I do to get this fixed? | 09:13 |
| jimmy_birer | Anybody able to help? | 09:16 |
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| XnOnymOusiX | hi!!! i'm new ubuntu user....tell me how to add widgets on destop....??? | 10:59 |
| paul___ | Hello, I've a problem after resuming my Laptop (Thinkpad X230) from sleep in xubuntu trusty beta. I can see the lockscreen, but after entering my password the screen is black. Switching VTY works, but the display brightness is tuned all the way down. Going back to VTY 7 it still shows a black screen, and using brightness controls does nothing. This is intel (i915) hardware. Anyone has an idea :-) Thanks | 11:33 |
| cfhowlett | paul___ best to ask in #ubuntu+1 for trusty support | 11:34 |
| paul___ | Alright, thanks | 11:36 |
| cub | cfhowlett, at least for another hour or so? ;) | 11:40 |
| cfhowlett | cub "when it's done" ... | 11:40 |
| Silvey | Why so harsh? He seemed like he'd just wanted to raise some excitement, that's all | 11:43 |
| xubuntu647 | what time today is xubuntu 14.04 out, please? | 13:10 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu647 before April 18th ... | 13:11 |
| xubuntu647 | ok, thanks. i'll just keep hitting refresh on the downloads page .. :) | 13:12 |
| Pici | cfhowlett: thats the best answer | 13:15 |
| cfhowlett | Pici trying to program a factoid now ... | 13:15 |
| * James0r4 has a new system ready for xubuntu 14.04 | 13:23 | |
| James0r4 | eagerly waiting | 13:23 |
| amigamagic | do you know if it's possibile in thunar to select a view mode separate for each folder? | 13:27 |
| knome | xubuntu647, James0r4: you can join #ubuntu-release-party if you want to :) | 13:28 |
| amigamagic | I miss very much that feature from nautilus, windows resource explorer and other os desktop managers | 13:32 |
| amigamagic | I will try to ask in the xfce channel | 13:32 |
| starrats | good luck on getting an answer from anyone at that channel amigamagic, lol! | 13:38 |
| amigamagic | they are answering to me in this moment | 13:38 |
| amigamagic | :P | 13:38 |
| kibibyte__ | hi | 13:42 |
| kibibyte__ | when xubuntu 14.04 will be avaible ? | 13:42 |
| amigamagic | !isitout | 13:43 |
| ubottu | No amigamagic, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 13:43 |
| kibibyte__ | but it will relased with normal ubuntu ? same time ? | 13:44 |
| starrats | ah okay amigamagic, I'm surprised, you must know someone over there in that channel. | 13:44 |
| kibibyte__ | ? | 13:45 |
| amigamagic | starrats, I don't know if it helped me in getting faster answers, but yesterday I proposed a patchfix for a bug of xfdesktop | 13:45 |
| amigamagic | kibibyte__, I think they will be out nearly at the same time | 13:47 |
| starrats | ah ok and cool amigamagic, :) | 13:47 |
| * starrats is still trying to fathom 'normal ubuntu' is there an 'abnormal ubuntu'? LOL! | 13:48 | |
| cfhowlett | starrats certainly abnormal users ... | 13:49 |
| kibibyte__ | i mean ubuntu with that crappy unity | 13:49 |
| cfhowlett | :) | 13:49 |
| cfhowlett | kibibyte__ many people like/love unity ... | 13:50 |
| starrats | lol cfhowlett | 13:50 |
| RFleming | Morning! | 13:52 |
| RFleming | today's the big day | 13:52 |
| amigamagic | do you know if is there a poll somewhere on unity vs gnome3 vs kde vs xfce, etc.? | 13:52 |
| cfhowlett | amigamagic poll? who cares? use what you like and what works for you! | 13:53 |
| starrats | Every time I see the word 'abnormal' I start to think of 'Young Frankenstein' movie with Igor looking for a new brain for the 'Monster' and the jar says abnormal and Igor tells the Doctor its from A.B. Normal, lol! | 13:54 |
| amigamagic | cfhowlett, of course... I'm just curious about what people think | 13:54 |
| * starrats will say this for his vote 'light not bloated' amigamagic | 13:56 | |
| amigamagic | starrats, I see you like recent movies... | 13:59 |
| starrats | Love the old ones too, B&W ones are great. | 14:02 |
| kupo_ | where the party channel at again | 14:21 |
| cfhowlett | !party|kupo_ | 14:21 |
| ubottu | kupo_: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Trusty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2702/ | 14:21 |
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| Meerkat | come join, #ubuntu-release-party | 14:22 |
| junka | lol | 14:22 |
| xubuntu211 | novità per l'uscita di xubuntu 14.10? | 14:38 |
| cfhowlett | !it|xubuntu211 | 14:38 |
| ubottu | xubuntu211: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) | 14:38 |
| xubuntu211 | sorry | 14:39 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu211 not to worry. | 14:39 |
| xubuntu211 | xubuntu will be release at the same time of ubuntu? | 14:40 |
| cfhowlett | xubuntu211 yes | 14:40 |
| xubuntu211 | anyone knows when? | 14:41 |
| cfhowlett | !party|xubuntu211 | 14:42 |
| ubottu | xubuntu211: Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Trusty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2702/ | 14:42 |
| kupo_ | being i been using 14.04 beta. i wont se emuch change heh | 14:45 |
| amigamagic | wow, finally the updates window notifier has popped up on my xubuntu 14.04 system... It's the first time I see that... So it works! | 14:45 |
| kupo_ | never had that issue | 14:45 |
| kupo_ | i get a weird synaptic issue though. where it changes all the words till you scroll back over | 14:46 |
| amigamagic | it was not an issue... It's just that I've never seen that. | 14:46 |
| amigamagic | kupo_, I saw that too | 14:46 |
| kupo_ | updating kernel now. wish me luck | 14:50 |
| amigamagic | hey guys, do you know it's quite easy to add a deja-dup contextual menu "restore previous file version" in thunar too like you have in nautilus? I'm testing it now... | 14:50 |
| Meerkat | i wish I could install ubuntu with a no-pop-ups flag. I hate when software assumes I want something done. | 14:51 |
| amigamagic | what popups? | 14:52 |
| Meerkat | "notifications" as they're so neatly called. | 14:52 |
| amigamagic | I think you can disable them, but I think is nice to have some feedback when you insert a lan cable, when you connect to a wi-fi, etc. | 14:54 |
| Meerkat | there doesn't seem to be a way to disable all of them in one go. Every program that uses them has to have that option disabled. | 14:55 |
| holstein | Meerkat: remove notifications | 14:55 |
| Meerkat | that's how it was around 2012 anyway. I haven't bothered looking recently. | 14:55 |
| Meerkat | holstein, do you know the package name? | 14:55 |
| holstein | http://askubuntu.com/questions/104273/how-do-i-disable-pop-up-notifications-in-xubuntu is what i would try | 14:56 |
| holstein | info xfce4-notifyd | 14:56 |
| RFleming | Can you not just change the opacity of Notifications to 0 and disappear to 1? | 14:56 |
| holstein | maybe that has changed, but, when i looked into it, i just opened a package manager, sorted by installed applications and searched "notification" | 14:57 |
| Meerkat | if I remove xfce4-notifyd it wants to remove xubuntu-desktop, update-manager, and other stuff. I think this is the reason I never got rid of it before. :( | 14:58 |
| holstein | Meerkat: there are suggestions for "disable" around.. what have you tried? | 14:59 |
| knome | it's ok to remove xubuntu-desktop | 14:59 |
| Silvey | Removing xubuntu-desktop won't do any harm | 14:59 |
| Silvey | update-manager can be reinstalled again anyway | 14:59 |
| MrMaidx | Hi, how is it with release of Xubuntu? Will it come out at the same time as Ubuntu? | 15:12 |
| knome | MrMaidx, yes. you can join #ubuntu-release-party to anticipate the release with others | 15:15 |
| MrMaidx | Yes, I'm there, thanks. :) | 15:16 |
| junka | :D | 15:16 |
| MrMaidx | I hope it will be soon. My 13.10 is... well... not anymore as stable as it was when I installed it. :D | 15:20 |
| bekks | MrMaidx: 14.04 will not magically change that. :) | 15:20 |
| Silvey | hey... psst. check release page. | 15:20 |
| * Silvey runs | 15:20 | |
| * junka runs too | 15:20 | |
| MrMaidx | bekks: I need to wipe a whole system. | 15:21 |
| knome | Silvey, you can stop that now or get booted. | 15:21 |
| Silvey | I just did that once indirectly :P Don't worry, not going to say anything else | 15:22 |
| MrMaidx | So many spam and confused people at the release channel. :D | 15:31 |
| Silvey | release-party* channel | 15:32 |
| c3l | Can one expect a release today, or how much will xubuntu lag behind standard ubuntu release? | 15:42 |
| holstein | !release | 15:42 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 9 months (regular releases) to 3 years (long-term suppport (LTS) releases). More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases | 15:42 |
| knome | c3l, it will be released at the same time. | 15:42 |
| c3l | aha, well ubuntu is alreay relesed (http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/) | 15:44 |
| holstein | !isitout | 15:44 |
| ubottu | No holstein, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 15:44 |
| knome | c3l, no, it's not. | 15:44 |
| holstein | c3l: very close | 15:44 |
| Silvey | phew for party channel +m | 15:45 |
| c3l | what are you talking about? there are new files with no beta label | 15:45 |
| knome | c3l, the release is not final until it's announced. | 15:45 |
| knome | c3l, downloading those files will only make the release get postponed. | 15:45 |
| c3l | knome: why did they upload new files and make them public? | 15:46 |
| knome | c3l, because they have to be made public at some point. | 15:46 |
| knome | c3l, updates are being pushed to the server now, so please hold off from downloading. | 15:47 |
| c3l | knome: so these are the final images, but one shouldnt touch them yet? | 15:47 |
| holstein | c3l: its not released yet.. but, *very* close | 15:47 |
| knome | c3l, there is no guarantee they are the final images... and you are correct, you shouldn't touch them until the release is announced | 15:48 |
| c3l | I dont get what makes this "not being released" the final images are right there | 15:48 |
| c3l | aha okay I see | 15:48 |
| knome | well it is not released until the announcement is out, the same as every release | 15:49 |
| knome | they could hide the images, but what difference would that make? people would hammer the server anyway | 15:49 |
| knome | one of the release team members just told he can't upload stuff that's needed for the release because people are hammering the server | 15:49 |
| knome | so it's literally postponing the release | 15:50 |
| Artemis3 | knome, they ALWAYS hide the images around 24 hours | 15:50 |
| Meerkat | next lts, they should put up 8.04 as the 16.04 LTS and everyone who downloads it prematurely gets disappointed. =) | 16:04 |
| holstein | Meerkat: use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel for chat.. thanks! | 16:05 |
| xubuntu201 | just wondering, when is Xubuntu 14.04 coming out? From what I was reading, it's supposed to be released today, I apologise if this is just running a bit late. :) just looking to change over from Windows XP | 16:14 |
| holstein | xubuntu201: it'll be out later today.. please wait | 16:14 |
| holstein | !isitout | 16:14 |
| ubottu | No holstein, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 16:14 |
| junka | xubuntu201: Somepoint today | 16:14 |
| junka | !isitoutyet | 16:14 |
| ubottu | No junka, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 16:14 |
| xubuntu201 | holstein and junka: my apologizes | 16:14 |
| xubuntu201 | thank you | 16:15 |
| holstein | xubuntu201: no worries.. it'll be here :) | 16:15 |
| xubuntu201 | can't wait :) | 16:15 |
| xubuntu201 | anyway, should go to bed... haven't slept waiting for the release haha. Tootles. | 16:16 |
| xubuntu996 | damn, it's like christmas. I can't wait for the release.. | 16:17 |
| elfy | should have joined in with testing then, you'd have it already ;) | 16:19 |
| xubuntu996 | indeed :-/ | 16:20 |
| * elfy is unlikely to say more than that ... | 16:22 | |
| raccoon__ | i have 4 ssds and i am trying to do a fresh install of xubuntu and implementing lvm but i have never done lvm before any pointers? | 16:25 |
| kupo_ | ah i am out of dvds to burn new iso on. my computer seems to not like booting from usb | 16:27 |
| kupo_ | final releases are out meow | 16:28 |
| kupo_ | lil bloated server though heh | 16:28 |
| Meerkat | raccoon__, be careful with the password you select. During the encryption password setting the keyboard will be set to US. So some characters switch places if you normally use something else as a keyboard layout. | 16:30 |
| raccoon__ | oh thanks for the tip now if i could just figure out how to actually do it lol | 16:31 |
| elfy | Meerkat: pardon? | 16:31 |
| raccoon__ | i want to just make the whole thing all of the ssds just like one big ssd and throw everything on it | 16:32 |
| xubuntu786 | Since Ubuntu just went live, is there any ETA for Xubuntu? | 16:32 |
| Pici | Its not done yet. | 16:33 |
| RFleming | Sometime next week. | 16:33 |
| RFleming | :) | 16:33 |
| xubuntu786 | Awesome, thanks guys! | 16:33 |
| kupo_ | magnet:?xt=urn:btih:732039b01979d9fb5b235de91d942659c7d2418a&dn=xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso&tr=http%3A%2F%2Ftorrent.ubuntu.com%3A6969%2Fannounce | 16:34 |
| knome | kupo_, stop it. | 16:34 |
| raccoon__ | would i just select lvm then put the whole installation on the first drive and the other drives would merge ? | 16:35 |
| Meerkat | you need raid-0 | 16:39 |
| raccoon__ | oh ok | 16:40 |
| Meerkat | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 16:41 |
| raccoon__ | thank you so much so i dont use lvm ? | 16:42 |
| Meerkat | raccoon__, just so you are aware. RAID-0 will merge all the drives you select into 1. The operating system will think it is 1 big hard drive and if you remove 1 of them you cannot boot. If 1 of the drives fails you also cannot boot. | 16:42 |
| raccoon__ | that is ok | 16:42 |
| Meerkat | raccoon__, you put LVM on top of the raid-0 volumes. | 16:42 |
| raccoon__ | i see so this is something i do before the lvm process | 16:42 |
| elfy | Meerkat: "During the encryption password setting the keyboard will be set to US" is that related to the ibus bug - if that is the case then all one needs do is purge it prior to upgrading - if encryption is working differently then that needs reporting | 16:43 |
| v2 | Fyi: torrent download for 14.04 is now working | 16:51 |
| knome | FYI: it's not final, please do not download yet. | 16:53 |
| v2 | knome, are u sure? | 16:54 |
| holstein | v2: your patience is appreciated as you continue to wait and encourage others to do so | 16:54 |
| holstein | !isitout | 16:54 |
| ubottu | No holstein, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 16:54 |
| knome | v2, yes, i'm 100% positive. i'm the xubuntu project lead. | 16:54 |
| v2 | :-) I see - ok, I will stop leeching | 16:54 |
| xubub | yo dawg | 17:03 |
| xubub | where is 14.04? | 17:03 |
| knome | in the making. | 17:03 |
| junka | !isitout | 17:03 |
| ubottu | No junka, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 17:03 |
| xubub | :) | 17:03 |
| Chuyin | waitin' :D | 17:04 |
| Chuyin | Xubuntu 14.04 torrent is ready! http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 17:13 |
| junka | !isitoutyet | 17:13 |
| ubottu | No junka, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 17:13 |
| DomiX | Chuyin, cool, what about update from xubuntu 13.10 ? | 17:14 |
| Artemis3 | it is good to download the torrent, it helps others, do it. | 17:15 |
| holstein | just not yet | 17:15 |
| knome | Chuyin, it is not. | 17:15 |
| holstein | its not officially released yet.. | 17:15 |
| DomiX | ok | 17:15 |
| knome | Artemis3, no, it doesn't do good to download the torrent now | 17:15 |
| Chuyin | no? oh... | 17:16 |
| Artemis3 | it does, do you even know how torrents work? | 17:16 |
| holstein | Artemis3: no.. not yet.. its not good yet | 17:16 |
| Chuyin | Sorry | 17:16 |
| knome | Artemis3, stop arguing. | 17:16 |
| Artemis3 | in torrents, the more people the better. | 17:16 |
| knome | Artemis3, the torrent is not final yet. | 17:16 |
| holstein | Artemis3: its not released yet, friend.. you need to wait, and help us encourage others to wait | 17:16 |
| Artemis3 | its not argue, its a fact, either you get it, or you dont. Also, the policy you are defending, has nothing to do with torrents, but the old mirroring method. | 17:17 |
| rsajdok | Chuyin: 64bit? | 17:17 |
| junka | Artemis3: STOP IT ;_; | 17:17 |
| knome | the final torrents aren't out yet. | 17:17 |
| knome | rsajdok, do not download anything yet. | 17:18 |
| xubub | "I'm am the oooper. I am the oooper." | 17:18 |
| Chuyin | Have to do some backup then.. | 17:18 |
| Chuyin | i'm ashamed for share the torrent file :/ | 17:19 |
| holstein | Chuyin: no worries.. just help us all encourage waiting | 17:20 |
| johnjason | When 14.04 goes final, will it be possible to upgrade my 13.10 with the image, or must it be done ovver the net? | 17:20 |
| Chuyin | Do some party here meanwhile? :D | 17:20 |
| holstein | johnjason: i was presented with that option | 17:20 |
| holstein | !party | 17:20 |
| ubottu | Please remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Trusty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2702/ | 17:20 |
| johnjason | Thank you holstein :) | 17:21 |
| Chuyin | Ok :P | 17:21 |
| Meerkat | elfy, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1047384 that is the issue with the keyboard layout. | 17:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1047384 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "System Encryption Password set before setting keyboard locale" [Medium,Triaged] | 17:21 |
| xubuntu224 | Hello, after installing xubuntu, my computer restarts and jumps into grub rescue, what can I do? | 17:31 |
| Breetai | What is the status of Xubuntu 14.04? Is there a blog entry about what is going on? | 17:31 |
| holstein | xubuntu224: i would try recovering grub | 17:31 |
| xubuntu224 | How can I do that? | 17:31 |
| holstein | xubuntu224: something like https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair or | 17:31 |
| holstein | !grub | 17:32 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 17:32 |
| xubuntu224 | thanks, will try | 17:32 |
| CyL | Do we have an ETA for Xubuntu? | 17:45 |
| holstein | !isitout | 17:46 |
| ubottu | No holstein, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 17:46 |
| CyL | holstein: This mean we should expect it at any hour? | 17:46 |
| CyL | *any time | 17:47 |
| holstein | CyL: correct.. *anytime*.. and it will be soon.. your patience is appreciated | 17:47 |
| knome | CyL, it's out when it's ready. just wait patiently. | 17:47 |
| CyL | holstein, knome: Heh, I'm in no hurry, just thought that it could have a specific hour, just as it had a date | 17:48 |
| CyL | Changing subjects, I really like Xubuntu, even prefer it over Ubuntu,, but one feature last Ubuntu had I wish Xubuntu had was the possibility of a windows occupying exactly half the screen if dragged to a given edge of the screen. Is there anyway to have this feature in Xubuntu? | 17:50 |
| holstein | CyL: yes | 17:50 |
| CyL | holstein: How? | 17:51 |
| holstein | CyL: you can implement it with the window manager | 17:51 |
| CyL | holstein: Unfortunately I'm no code master.. out of the box? | 17:51 |
| holstein | CyL: AFAIK, it is not configured to do that out of the box | 17:52 |
| CyL | holstein: When you say implementing it with the windows manager, you say coding the feature and having it accepted by the upstream, right? | 17:53 |
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| holstein | CyL: no. i mean configuring the window manager to do that | 17:54 |
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| holstein | CyL: i use a distro, peppermintOS, and they use the xfce window manager, and have that feature out of the box, so i know its just a configuraion option | 17:55 |
| holstein | CyL: if you can learn how to refer to that feature, you can search for it.. "feature settings xfce" for example | 17:55 |
| holstein | CyL: i am not certain what that feature is referred to as.. | 17:55 |
| elfy | sounds like tiling to me | 17:56 |
| elfy | though it works slightly differently for us | 17:56 |
| holstein | ^ that sounds right | 17:56 |
| holstein | +1 on tiling | 17:57 |
| holstein | not to be confused with " a tiling window manager" | 17:57 |
| elfy | CyL: try alt+F5 alt+F6 to start with - but it is not like ubuntu use | 17:58 |
| elfy | you can also I think drag to parts of window to tiel | 17:58 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | xubuntu 14.04 still not live? | 18:06 |
| c3l | There we go =) | 18:07 |
| CyL | elfy, holstein: Thanks for your advice, I'll give it a try oncce 14.04 has rolled out. I think I can tweak with the WM configs myself | 18:07 |
| CyL | !isitout | Mike-Linux-NL | 18:07 |
| ubottu | Mike-Linux-NL: No CyL, it's not out yet. It's due out some time on the 17th :) | 18:07 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | so still today then | 18:08 |
| mzr | If I've been on the Daily 14, can I just update/upgrade to the lts? or do I need to reinstall? | 18:10 |
| elfy | update and upgrade | 18:10 |
| mzr | thanks | 18:11 |
| elfy | dist-upgrade if it is necessary | 18:11 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | btw.. running 12.04 now.. is it safe to an "upgrade" or is it better to do a clean install? upgrading never worked for me so far... | 18:11 |
| mikeche1en | by definition upgrade should work... | 18:12 |
| slimjimflim | yay 14.04 LTS is out, except not for xubuntu yet | 18:12 |
| elfy | really? | 18:12 |
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| slimjimflim | oh nm, xubuntu is out too | 18:13 |
| lderan | \o/ | 18:13 |
| mikeche1en | yay! | 18:13 |
| slimjimflim | they literally updated the site within the last 1-2 min. | 18:13 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | ugh... just reading the news on xubuntu.org i see a list with "known issues" ? | 18:13 |
| elfy | then actually read it Mike-Linux-NL :) | 18:13 |
| mikeche1en | whoops there are no files in the dl directory yet | 18:13 |
| junka | \o. | 18:14 |
| v9 | *clap* *clap* *clap* | 18:14 |
| slimjimflim | mikeche1en: well i've got ubuntu with xfce too | 18:14 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | elfy: i just did :P | 18:14 |
| holstein | its literally just releasing... your patience is appreciated | 18:14 |
| mikeche1en | slimjimflim: xubuntu is just a metapackage | 18:14 |
| CyL | there is a typo in the download page --> "The 13.04 release, codenamed Trusty Tahr, is,,," | 18:14 |
| mikeche1en | holstein: yeah thats what i figured :) | 18:15 |
| slimjimflim | CyL: lol yea i see that | 18:15 |
| holstein | ths sites are all just being updated, friends.. | 18:16 |
| mikeche1en | f5 f5 f5 :D | 18:16 |
| mzr | patience is a virtue, right? | 18:16 |
| junka | !isitoutyet | 18:17 |
| ubottu | Yes it is out! Download at www.ubuntu.com/download | 18:17 |
| mzr | what's the "return version" command? | 18:17 |
| mikeche1en | lsb_release -a | 18:17 |
| mzr | 14.04 LTS, yay! | 18:18 |
| junka | http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ has a typo saying about 13.04 | 18:18 |
| mzr | mhmm, thanks junka | 18:19 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | hmmm the xfce4-power manager not restoring screen power kinda holds me back... i always close my laptopscreen | 18:19 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | better wait for the fix ;) | 18:19 |
| CyL | Mike-Linux-NL: This happens on every laptop? | 18:19 |
| rsajdok | is brokne http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 18:20 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | running xubuntu 12.04 now... can close the lid. laptop goes in kind of suspend mode... when i open the lid i just press a key or mouse and screen pops back up | 18:20 |
| elfy | junka: fixed it | 18:21 |
| junka | elfy: :D | 18:21 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | but the release note says, that this "action" causes this bug in 14.04? | 18:21 |
| Chuyin | I can see the new release in http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ :D | 18:22 |
| elfy | CyL: we don't know if it is EVERY laptop - we are held back from making that judgement as very few people actually help to test xubuntu | 18:23 |
| v9 | is the torrent download working or would I still download a non-final image? | 18:23 |
| AndChat220596 | Torrent link should be trusty not precise I think | 18:23 |
| CyL | As noted the torrent link is dead, it seems to point to the right torrent on the wrong directory (precise): /xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 18:24 |
| knome | CyL, fixed. | 18:24 |
| CyL | elfy: I see, but the bug is persistent among the testers who tested it on a laptop? | 18:24 |
| elfy | yes | 18:25 |
| mikeche1en | Mike-Linux-NL: i had that problem on my laptop only when using the proprietary driver | 18:25 |
| elfy | CyL: follow the links to the actual bug report | 18:25 |
| CyL | Indeed, trying to access the following file yeld a success download:: /xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 18:26 |
| CyL | Anyway, I probably don't have to bee worring too much, will be running it on a vm... | 18:27 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | mikeche1en: i use an Asus K50IJ. so its all intel | 18:27 |
| mikeche1en | Mike-Linux-NL: ah i see | 18:27 |
| Chuyin | The link http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/precise/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent seems to be broken | 18:28 |
| CyL | Chuyin: See my last couple of messages | 18:28 |
| knome | Chuyin, refresh the page, it's fixes ages ago | 18:28 |
| Chuyin | ok | 18:29 |
| Chuyin | All right! :D Downloading... | 18:30 |
| drmad | There are no seeders for xubuntu amd64 :( | 18:30 |
| mikeche1en | i see 50+ seeders | 18:31 |
| CyL | drmad: I'm seeding it | 18:31 |
| mikeche1en | its not going that fast right now but im sure it will speed up | 18:31 |
| CyL | Oh, sorry, I'm not seeding it, I'm *seeing* it | 18:31 |
| drmad | :) | 18:31 |
| mikeche1en | ill seed once it completes :) | 18:32 |
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| CyL | I have 2.5 MBit/sec | 18:32 |
| mikeche1en | lucky :D | 18:34 |
| slimjimflim | Mike-Linux-NL: i noticed that power not restoring screen power too | 18:36 |
| CyL | well folks, good bye, see you later! | 18:38 |
| rsajdok | when will be available be do-release-upgrade ? | 18:42 |
| mikeche1en | hey the download link on http://xubuntu.org/news/14-04-release/ is still broken | 18:42 |
| knome | mikeche1en, it's being worked on by canonical. | 18:44 |
| mikeche1en | knome: ok, the http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/ url seems to work fine | 18:45 |
| v9 | download complete - will let it seed for a while before installing. And before I forget: a special thank to everyone involved with the making of this release and with the support on this channel !! | 18:52 |
| rsajdok | 9 hours remaining... :) | 19:00 |
| JimmyNeutron | !hash | 19:00 |
| junka | rsajdok for what | 19:03 |
| DomiX | !isitout | 19:03 |
| ubottu | yes, it is out! https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-April/000182.html | 19:03 |
| xfce_user | hi | 19:05 |
| xfce_user | is ubuntu 14.04 support time 5 years and xubuntu 14.04 3 years? | 19:06 |
| martinrame | Hi, does anyone know which repository has 14.04 ready for download? I'm doing "sudo do-release-upgrade" but No new release found from the USA Server. | 19:06 |
| andy___ | is there somewhere i can check the md5 of the iso? | 19:07 |
| Mike-Linux-NL | 14.04 is out.... is there a 14.10 alpha available already? :P | 19:08 |
| rsajdok | junka: download by torrent | 19:08 |
| Pici | Mike-Linux-NL: no, the toolchain hasn't even been built yet | 19:09 |
| rsajdok | martinrame: me too | 19:09 |
| xfce_user | is ubuntu 14.04 support time 5 years and xubuntu 14.04 3 years? -_- | 19:09 |
| junka | yes xfce_user but some packages will have 5 years because it's based on ubuntu's core | 19:10 |
| xfce_user | jcfp, and why? :) | 19:10 |
| JimmyNeutron | Where can I get the hash/md5sum for xubuntu 14.04? | 19:10 |
| xfce_user | junka, and why? :) | 19:11 |
| lnostdal | is xubuntu 14.04? .. got a torrent? .. i have a 100Mbit (both ways) connection and wanna seed :) | 19:12 |
| lnostdal | is xubuntu 14.04 out* | 19:12 |
| rsajdok | lnostdal: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent | 19:12 |
| junka | lnostdal: yeah there is go check xubuntu.org | 19:13 |
| rsajdok | lnostdal: http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 19:13 |
| junka | xfce_user: what do u mean? | 19:13 |
| lnostdal | rsajdok: awesome, thanks! | 19:13 |
| Pici | !torrents | 19:14 |
| ubottu | Xubuntu Trusty (14.04) torrents can be downloaded from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent and http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent | 19:14 |
| notwist | seeding now as well :) | 19:18 |
| gruntz | Hi. What is the proper way to upgrade xubumtu from release to release? (in this case from 13.10 to 14.04) | 19:18 |
| gruntz | or clean install would be better? | 19:18 |
| holstein | i prefer clean insatll.. otherwise, the update manager should offer | 19:19 |
| drmad | Seeders! \o/ 59 mins remaining :3 | 19:41 |
| Unit193 | drmad: I'm uploading at 500KB/s on just the one torrent. :) | 19:45 |
| drmad | Unit193: \o/ | 19:51 |
| mikeche1en | holstein: is do-release-upgrade supposed to work yet? | 20:10 |
| bekks | No. | 20:10 |
| bekks | You have to wait until the mirrors are synced. | 20:10 |
| juanmontoya | I installed Xubuntu.14.03 beta. Do I have to reinstall now that the final version has been released or a simple apt-get update and upgrade will do? | 20:12 |
| mikeche1en | juanmontoya: i think that will work, also apt-get dist-upgrade | 20:13 |
| juanmontoya | (y) thanks. | 20:13 |
| Pici | !final | juanmontoya | 20:19 |
| ubottu | juanmontoya: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Trusty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 14.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal. | 20:19 |
| juanmontoya | :O | 20:20 |
| Arceye | anyone know how I can back up the settings of xchat ? so when I upgrade to latest xubuntu I can restore it to how I have it now ? | 20:23 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: the settings should not be affected by upgrade | 20:24 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: they are probably store in ~/.xchat or ~/.config/xchat if you want to backup | 20:25 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I downloaded iso, put it on disc and I got option to clean install or install dual boot. should I have had another option for upgrade ? | 20:26 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: yeah you prob want to do upgrade | 20:28 |
| mikeche1en | what version are you on now? | 20:28 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, currently 13.XX , di never got option to upgrade or is that later in the install | 20:28 |
| Arceye | di = I | 20:29 |
| Pici | which 13.x release? | 20:29 |
| Kekai | is 14.04 out for download via the updater? | 20:29 |
| Pici | Kekai: not yet | 20:30 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: check if using 13.04 or 13.10 | 20:30 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, how do i check | 20:30 |
| Pici | Kekai: some mirror issues are causing delays, but it should be fixed in a few hours | 20:30 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: lsb_release -a | 20:30 |
| Kekai | So I will be contacted in a few hours saying that 14.04 is out? | 20:31 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, 13,10 | 20:31 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: huh weird idk then | 20:31 |
| Pici | Kekai: yes, you should be alerted | 20:31 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: just wait for the update through software center i guess | 20:31 |
| Kekai | hm.. | 20:31 |
| Kekai | should I update tonight as it rolls out or wait a while? | 20:32 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, at what point when booting from disc should I have the option to upgrade | 20:32 |
| Kekai | to see if there are some issues I need to be worried about | 20:32 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: you dont have to boot from the disk, just insert it while xubuntu is running | 20:33 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, ok will try that | 20:34 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: i think that should work | 20:34 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, disc inserted , wish me luck :) | 20:35 |
| mikeche1en | good luck :) | 20:36 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, disc spins up, but nothing happens, I can however browse the content | 20:40 |
| ed- | can I assume that the known issues will be fixed in upcoming dist-upgrades, or will some of them remain until the next LTS? | 20:40 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: try opening software center -> software sources | 20:40 |
| ed- | I'd really stick to LTS releases as far as possible | 20:40 |
| brainwash | ed-: they will be fixed once someone has provided a working and tested patch | 20:45 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, :( I guess I either do clean install ( which will take days to set up again ) or wait till upgrade comes via updates | 20:45 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, is there not a file I can browse to on the disc and click on it ( in the same way as windows would allow ) ? | 20:48 |
| mcvoicex | hi all, i find't german support for xubuntu. can you help me? | 20:49 |
| Pici | !de | 20:51 |
| ubottu | In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis! | 20:51 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: did you try software sources -> other software -> add volume? | 20:52 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: if thats not working i would suggest just waiting for the repos to update | 20:53 |
| mikeche1en | unless you dont mind doing a clean install which could erase your current system | 20:53 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, add volume said error scanning the CD | 20:54 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: oh well, just wait then | 20:55 |
| mikeche1en | i was trying to do the same thing | 20:56 |
| mikeche1en | but no luck | 20:56 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I guess I will have to, clean install isn't an option, it will take days to get things the way I want them with my lack of knowledge. Thanks for the assistance | 20:56 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: sure, yeah i think its better to wait a little while than lose all the settings | 20:57 |
| Alan | oh wow | 20:57 |
| * Alan looks at the known issues | 20:58 | |
| Arceye | All I am hoping for is some kind of improvement to allow web pages to work better ;) | 20:59 |
| m1chael | Package linux-headers-3.8.0-19-generic is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 21:01 |
| m1chael | sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) | 21:01 |
| bekks | m1chael: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get installl ... | 21:01 |
| m1chael | i thought i was pretty up to date | 21:02 |
| Unit193 | Why are you installing the headers directly? Why not just pull in the meta? | 21:03 |
| m1chael | i'm getting an error when starting virtualbox | 21:04 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: what problems are you having with web pages | 21:04 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, Probably easier for me to say I moved from winXP a few months ago this PC feels like it has become 5 years older than it really is. I am not putting xubuntu or any other linux distro down, they just don't run as well for what I do. However xubuntu is free so I don't have high expectations | 21:09 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: hmm i wonder, what are the system specs? | 21:10 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: web browsing should be just as fast as winxp, especially using chrome | 21:10 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, AMD athlon64 2GB ram more HDD space than I will ever use with linux | 21:10 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I can some it up in a single word, "Flash" | 21:11 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: hmm it would help to have more ram but 2gb should be decent | 21:11 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: oh yeah flash is a different issue | 21:11 |
| mikeche1en | i pretty much avoid flash completely | 21:11 |
| m1chael | http://dpaste.com/1783937/ # i'm trying to install virtualbox and i'm running in to this issue Trying to register the VirtualBox kernel modules using DKMSError! Your kernel headers for kernel 3.8.0-19-generic cannot be found. | 21:12 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, it's so widely used it's unavoidable, I can't even watch youtube properley ( even using html5 option ) | 21:12 |
| mikeche1en | things like youtube use html5 now | 21:12 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: why doesnt html5 work on youtube? | 21:13 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, yes it works, but a 30 second video lasts 32 seconds , it's just slow | 21:13 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: hmm weird, might be the video card? | 21:14 |
| mikeche1en | i also use flashblock to make sure only 1 webpage is running flash at a time | 21:14 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I am sure the gfx card is the excuse I have been given every time, but I will never accept that as the answer, I used ubuntu 10.x some years ago and youtube worked perfectly | 21:15 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: have you checked about installing proprietary drivers? | 21:16 |
| mikeche1en | or maybe disabling desktop compositing | 21:16 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, In the end I appreciate the help I get in here, without these channels I would be lost, So I accept there are certain limitations which are unavoidable | 21:17 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, prop drives not available for my card ATI 3650 DV | 21:17 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: ah yeah, i wonder what the source of the problem is | 21:18 |
| Arceye | No idea, all I can say is it worked in the 10.x ubuntu and now by comparison it doesn't, I just accept it, and use this pc for nothing more than basic browsing and irc, there isn't much else I can do with the current OS | 21:19 |
| Arceye | unfortunately I can't justify win7 on this PC either, so I will just use it till it dies then turn it into a file server | 21:21 |
| mikeche1en | and you are using xubuntu, not regular ubuntu? sometimes unity is very resource intensive | 21:21 |
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| mikeche1en | the only other thing i might suggest would be lubuntu, which uses even less resources | 21:22 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I am using xubuntu, all other versions were terrible | 21:22 |
| mikeche1en | but it sounds like the issue is specifically with flash, not overall system resources | 21:22 |
| mikeche1en | i guess you have tried both firefox & chrome? | 21:23 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, Just opening the browser FF or chrome takes longer than it does in winXP | 21:23 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: hmm does it have a lot of tabs open or anything? that sounds like some issue besides flash | 21:24 |
| mikeche1en | have you checked system monitor to see if something is hogging cpu or memory | 21:24 |
| kupo_ | official xubuntu out yet? was at store buying new tv | 21:25 |
| kupo_ | grabbed some blank dvds though | 21:25 |
| mikeche1en | kupo_: iso is out | 21:25 |
| mikeche1en | see topic | 21:25 |
| kupo_ | ok thanks | 21:25 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, Yes, the issue is the OS, I can't say any more than that, winXP and xubuntu dual boot same hardware, winXP wins hands down on everything except basic boot time to usable desktop | 21:25 |
| kupo_ | wonder how busy server is heh | 21:25 |
| mikeche1en | kupo_: use torrent :D | 21:25 |
| kupo_ | yeah. i was about to say. always torrent. will seed away too | 21:26 |
| Arceye | kupo_, I am seeding it via torrent a long with 1000's of others mine took me about 4 mins to download ( I do however have very fast net speed ) | 21:26 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: yeah something weird must be going on, but its hard to guess what | 21:26 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, the only answer is the OS :) | 21:26 |
| kupo_ | yeah. not having a problem with speed heh. i get good upload. about 1.3 MB. so i will help others :) | 21:27 |
| Arceye | I know those words are not welcome here but for me, it's a fact | 21:27 |
| mikeche1en | Arceye: well i run xubuntu on a 1.5ghz atom and firefox with no tabs opens in a few sec | 21:27 |
| mikeche1en | im saying something weird is going on with the os | 21:27 |
| mikeche1en | but i dont know what :) | 21:28 |
| Arceye | mikeche1en, I will agree with that :) | 21:28 |
| mikeche1en | its a mystery :D | 21:28 |
| mikeche1en | im sure upgrading the hardware would help, but then you have to invest more $$ into it | 21:29 |
| Arceye | I have a gaming PC which I use for most things now, this PC since February is pretty much redundant | 21:30 |
| mikeche1en | yeah that makes sense | 21:31 |
| mikeche1en | if you can find some cheap/free ram to add, that might help | 21:31 |
| Arceye | I will do the upgrade, I did play with the live disc for a few minuted and the desktop seems to have improved over the curent version, It's started to look more like winXP :) | 21:32 |
| peyam | HEj | 21:32 |
| peyam | 3 years support for xubuntu 14.04? or should it be 5? | 21:33 |
| kupo_ | ok download complete. i think i may just start fresh system. | 21:33 |
| peyam | Im downlaoding as well | 21:33 |
| kupo_ | i'm quick at my themeing etc. plus it's fun. nerd fun | 21:33 |
| Arceye | peyam, I think I read it was 3 | 21:33 |
| bekks | peyam: 3. | 21:33 |
| peyam | yes but the regular ubuntu is 5 years | 21:33 |
| bekks | peyam: And xubuntu isnt the regular ubuntu. 3 years. | 21:34 |
| Arceye | bekks, please excuse my ignorance here, but isn't the difference only the gui between the two ? | 21:34 |
| knome | Arceye, default DE, default apps, default settings | 21:35 |
| peyam | bekks, xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce as far as I know. If I had written that xubuntu isn't ubuntu someone would say the apposite. does that mean that xubunt wont provide the kernel update after 3 years? | 21:35 |
| bekks | Arceye: Basically yes. | 21:35 |
| Arceye | bekks, thanks | 21:35 |
| peyam | so 3 years it is.. nice.. looking forward to see the new xubuntu | 21:35 |
| bekks | peyam: The xubuntu components have 3 years of support. All common components used by ubuntu as well have 5 years. | 21:35 |
| Arceye | peyam, it looks nice on the live cd :) | 21:35 |
| peyam | bekks, thanks :) Arceye I hope so.. LibreMenu was an excellent choise to edit the menu! | 21:36 |
| peyam | knome, the problem with thunar, not mounting the devices automaticlly, is solved? | 21:38 |
| knome | peyam, read the release announcement/notes. | 21:39 |
| peyam | knome, you can't just tell me? | 21:39 |
| kupo_ | alright. uploading at 1.3 MB . enjoy !! going to reinstall fresh shortly | 21:39 |
| knome | peyam, i'm not an information machine... besides, if you don't read the release announcement, you won't what known issues you might run into | 21:40 |
| peyam | knome, thanks.. | 21:40 |
| peyam | Arceye, you like it so far? | 21:43 |
| Arceye | peyam, I ahev only seen the desktop from live cd, I was hoping to upgrade from 13.10, but alas no option for me to do that :( | 21:44 |
| peyam | I see. two known issues were be problem for me. | 21:44 |
| peyam | Arceye, personally I never recommend upgrading a dist on that way | 21:45 |
| kupo_ | you can upgrade right? when i was on 13.10 i did sudo update-manager -d | 21:46 |
| Arceye | peyam, clean install isn't something I am willing to do, I have such a lack of knowledge, It would take me days | 21:46 |
| kupo_ | that's how i wwa son beta anywayys | 21:46 |
| kupo_ | i'm about to start from scratch though. burrning disc now | 21:47 |
| Arceye | kupo_, if it's not a point and click upgrade then for me it doesn't have an upgrade option. I have the dvd burned, just not willing to lose everything I have set up, the guys in here helped me get things working and I don't want to put them through it again | 21:49 |
| kupo_ | well. i didn't lose anything when i upgraded via terminal. but i understand | 21:50 |
| kupo_ | i use 2 hd's so that's never much of a problem for me i guess | 21:50 |
| Arceye | my personal opinion is that command line should stay in the 70's where it belongs :) | 21:50 |
| kupo_ | ok. time to start over. see ya | 21:51 |
| bacil | hello | 22:06 |
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| bacil | ive just installed xubuntu 14 and autocomplete feature in eclipse just stopped working, i guess xubuntu uses ctrl+space as shortcut for something and "hijacks" it from eclipse :D Any idea how to solve this ? :P | 22:07 |
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| drmad | well, it's time to install xubuntu in my pc :D | 22:12 |
| amigamagic | drmad, don't... It will implode your pc... :D | 22:14 |
| CyborgCygnus | Can you update a xubuntu iso with zsync in windows? | 22:15 |
| jamesmcveity | do-release-upgrade says "no new release found" | 22:22 |
| jamesmcveity | is that the proper dist upgrade for xubuntu? | 22:22 |
| xubuntu770 | I've just installed 14.04 ... there's a strange problem with items placed on my desktop - they are not visible but according to 'ls ~/Desktop/' they are there. Anyone? | 22:24 |
| knome | jamesmcveity, release upgrades aren't enabled just yet. | 22:25 |
| jamesmcveity | knome: okay thanks. but that would be be the proper route once enabled? | 22:26 |
| knome | jamesmcveity, yep, or via update-manager (GUI) | 22:26 |
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| yochai | anyone else experiencing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-power-manager/+bug/1303736 ? Just upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04. | 22:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1303736 in xfce4-power-manager (Ubuntu) "Black screen after login from suspend in Xubuntu 14.04" [High,Confirmed] | 22:32 |
| knome | yochai, well apparently yes, it being a "known issue" | 22:33 |
| yochai | i was wondering if anyone knew of a way to bring the cursor back | 22:33 |
| yochai | just trying to find a way to deal with the bug | 22:33 |
| knome | don't suspend by closing the lid, use the menu | 22:34 |
| knome | would be the best workaround. | 22:34 |
| yochai | so far I've setup xrandr to run and turn the screen | 22:34 |
| yochai | oh | 22:34 |
| yochai | right | 22:34 |
| yochai | i thought it happened either way | 22:34 |
| x770 | yochai, same here | 22:34 |
| yochai | ok | 22:34 |
| yochai | so i'll just do that | 22:34 |
| knome | at least afaik | 22:34 |
| knome | try it. | 22:34 |
| yochai | thank you. | 22:34 |
| yochai | I thought I did; maybe I muddled my own process though | 22:34 |
| yochai | I will | 22:34 |
| yochai | I appreciate the response | 22:34 |
| yochai | thanks! | 22:34 |
| xubuntu981 | hi | 22:37 |
| skribblezatcha | hi xubuntu981. | 22:38 |
| xubuntu981 | I want to know if xubuntu 14.04 will work with netbook having Atom N2800 processor | 22:38 |
| skribblezatcha | what is the ram included xubuntu981? | 22:39 |
| xubuntu981 | 2gb | 22:39 |
| skribblezatcha | how old is the netbook if you dont mind me asking? | 22:39 |
| xubuntu981 | 1year | 22:40 |
| skribblezatcha | ok cool, i think that you are good to go xubuntu. i am running xubuntu trusty 14.04 on a laptop with 2gb ram and it just turned 3yrs old on december 2013. | 22:40 |
| skribblezatcha | so i think that you can run it. | 22:40 |
| skribblezatcha | go for it and see how it runs, if you dont like it..you can always find something else to run on it you know what i mean? | 22:41 |
| x770 | after having disabled to display the standard icons for drives, trash bin etc. on the desktop, none of my other items placed on the desktop are visible. In addition, I cannot re-enable to show those standard icons I've switched off before. | 22:41 |
| xubuntu981 | ok but should i try 32bit or 64 | 22:42 |
| skribblezatcha | have you tried restarting x to see if that helps x770? | 22:42 |
| bekks | xubuntu981: if your cpu is 64bit, then it should be 64bit. | 22:42 |
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| skribblezatcha | i run a 32bit system since i only have 2gb ram xubuntu981, and its a pae kernel so you are good with 32bit. | 22:42 |
| skribblezatcha | you can run a 64bit system if you want to though, if you have a 64bit cpu. | 22:43 |
| bekks | PAE kernel on less than 4GB are useless. | 22:43 |
| Zorp_ | where can i find the alternate iso image(s)? | 22:43 |
| skribblezatcha | i have a 64bit system, but i run a 32bit system. | 22:43 |
| knome | Zorp_, there aren't any. | 22:43 |
| bekks | Zorp_: The are obsolete. | 22:43 |
| skribblezatcha | 32bit OS* | 22:43 |
| Zorp_ | why is the current release page referencing them then? | 22:43 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, yes, I did. I didn't help :-/ | 22:44 |
| knome | Zorp_, which one? | 22:44 |
| Zorp_ | http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/requirements/ | 22:44 |
| xubuntu981 | ok thanks | 22:44 |
| Zorp_ | ". Installing with the alternate or Minimal CD requires you to have only 128 MB of memory." | 22:44 |
| skribblezatcha | hmmm, i see. x770 are you using a final release iso? | 22:44 |
| knome | Zorp_, under the "...for Xubuntu 12.04" header. | 22:44 |
| gooch | skribblez, can i ask why? | 22:45 |
| Zorp_ | ah, i see | 22:45 |
| * Zorp_ slaps himself | 22:45 | |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, I think so - downloaded 2 hours ago using the torrent link on the announcement page | 22:45 |
| skribblezatcha | i run a 32bit OS because it uses less resources meaning less ram and less cpu than an 64bit OS. so if i only have 2gb ram, what is the point of me running a 64 bit OS gooch? | 22:46 |
| skribblezatcha | ok cool x770. i was just wondering..thanks.:) | 22:46 |
| skribblezatcha | i just went and added the trash to the desktop here and then removed it. so i dont know what would cause that x770. | 22:47 |
| skribblezatcha | x770: how did you remove the icons if you dont mind. you did remove them through the gui right..and didnt just right click on an icon and go to delete? | 22:51 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, I appreciate your help ... the beast is just not behaving the same here ... Yes, via right click -> Desktop Settings -> Icons -> Default Icons (there I unticked all icons, i.e. Home, Filesystems, etc.) | 22:53 |
| skribblezatcha | ok, and then to retick them doesnt add them back? thats odd. | 22:53 |
| skribblezatcha | right, i hear you man. sometimes it happens and leaves us baffled in the process. lol | 22:53 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, :-X | 22:54 |
| skribblezatcha | lol | 22:54 |
| jamesmcveity | knome: I've yet to upgrade a dist. Does doing a fresh install vs upgrading any dis/advantages? | 22:54 |
| gooch | oh i see | 22:55 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, uhmm, perhaps it's related to the prop. Nvidia driver ... sounds stupid but you never know ... gonna try to revert back to nouveau | 22:58 |
| x770 | brb .. | 22:58 |
| knome | jamesmcveity, fresh install won't have configuration (migration) or other upgrade problems, but takes a bit more work, especially if you need to backup stuff. | 22:59 |
| knome | jamesmcveity, other than that, not really, it'll end up pretty much the same | 22:59 |
| skribblezatcha | i bet that x770 comes back with things working.:) | 22:59 |
| jamesmcveity | knome: thanks. | 23:00 |
| peyam | no automatic trim | 23:00 |
| peyam | I like it. Had to do some modification otherwise its stable. | 23:00 |
| PhoenixSTF | hey guys, 1st issue of the day, kernel panic on an old eepc 1101ha | 23:01 |
| PhoenixSTF | :) | 23:01 |
| PhoenixSTF | btw great job on 1404 ;) graz guys | 23:01 |
| peyam | I need to be sure. does 14.04 provide automatic trim? | 23:02 |
| gooch | can i install cinnamon in 14.04? | 23:04 |
| bekks | peyam: If unsure, add the specific fstab option. | 23:04 |
| peyam | just did | 23:04 |
| peyam | thanks anyone. time for me to sleep | 23:04 |
| peyam | bye | 23:04 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, my problem is solved - it's related to the Nvidia driver and how it handles multiple displays. I had to turn off the laptop display in the dirver settings and voila, all my icons are shown on the external monitor :-) | 23:14 |
| skribblezatcha | nice x770, good to hear man.:) | 23:14 |
| skribblezatcha | most times when you hear someone mention what happened to you..or panels disappearing, things like that. its a graphics driver related issue. | 23:15 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, true ... and I feel a little bit stupid ... well, time for a beer here ;-) | 23:18 |
| skribblezatcha | okie dokes x770. have a good one and take it easy. | 23:18 |
| skribblezatcha | be safe and God bless you man.;) | 23:19 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha | 23:22 |
| x770 | skribblezatcha, thx for your support man. Just opened a Paulaner Lager ,,, unfortunately we still can't transfer a can of beer ... I think I should file a bug for Xubuntu ;-) | 23:22 |
| delt | hmm... some pretty bad bugs still present in the final release... "Window manager shortcut keys don’t work after reboot (1292290)" | 23:22 |
| skribblezatcha | lol x770. | 23:23 |
| delt | oops wrong channel | 23:23 |
| skribblezatcha | yw man. i actually dont drink but the gesture is dope.;) | 23:23 |
| schreber | how is thunar behaving in 14.04 ? | 23:28 |
| PhoenixSTF | oh crap, my wifes eeepc 1101ha just burned the charger plug.... | 23:29 |
| PhoenixSTF | while I was trying use a boot pen | 23:29 |
| skribblezatcha | o wow PhoenixSTF. is she going to be upset? | 23:31 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, whe will probably demand a new one, it is an old ass netbook | 23:31 |
| PhoenixSTF | *she | 23:31 |
| skribblezatcha | i think that you can get one of those universal chargers at walmart or something. | 23:32 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, thats the thing its is not the charger | 23:32 |
| skribblezatcha | my dad's laptop's charger went and he got one of those universal chargers for it and it works. | 23:32 |
| PhoenixSTF | I have a 1215B that uses the same charger | 23:32 |
| skribblezatcha | o i see. i get what you mean now..wow. | 23:33 |
| skribblezatcha | so it flipped out. then its time for a new one. | 23:33 |
| PhoenixSTF | I think it was the mobo that has gone kaput | 23:33 |
| skribblezatcha | right, i feel you. | 23:33 |
| PhoenixSTF | ya... time to search for a new one | 23:33 |
| PhoenixSTF | hardest part is, fiding one without the freaking windows thing | 23:34 |
| skribblezatcha | i know right. well there are people that have successfully booted a linux distro using those uefi bios setups. | 23:35 |
| PhoenixSTF | thats not even the issue, I have to send the laptop to the brand to remove the licence cause I wont agree with the EULA, I may have to wait like one month for it | 23:36 |
| PhoenixSTF | speacially I am living on a island that makes things so much difficult | 23:37 |
| skribblezatcha | o i see. | 23:37 |
| recon_lap | I hope never to buy a computer that has the BIOS locked to a vender | 23:38 |
| skribblezatcha | right right. so if you send the laptop to the brand to remove the license, what does that allow PhoenixSTF? | 23:38 |
| skribblezatcha | or what does that do? | 23:38 |
| skribblezatcha | same here recon_lap..but that means that basically you arent getting a new one. | 23:38 |
| skribblezatcha | because it seems like thats the norm now. | 23:38 |
| recon_lap | maybe it's time to start a computer manufacture business | 23:39 |
| skribblezatcha | i know right..or go and check out a system76 system. | 23:40 |
| skribblezatcha | i think that they are built without the uefi bios setup. | 23:40 |
| PhoenixSTF | that allows you to get the "Windows TAX refund" | 23:40 |
| PhoenixSTF | almost 10% of the laptop price is a "Windows Tax" | 23:40 |
| PhoenixSTF | So I wont give any money to M$ | 23:41 |
| skribblezatcha | o ok, i see PhoenixSTF. i didnt know that..thats good to know. | 23:41 |
| schreber | Outside of Whisker are you guys seeing anything really new/special in this version? | 23:43 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, my brother got a Acer laptop and he did not accept the EULA, so acer removed the License and returned almost 40€ to him | 23:43 |
| PhoenixSTF | schreber, no botom bar | 23:43 |
| schreber | I always removed that anyway | 23:43 |
| knome | schreber, read the release announcement. | 23:43 |
| skribblezatcha | nice PhoenixSTF. yeah i am definitely going to have to do that for sure. | 23:44 |
| skribblezatcha | yeah i can see things that are different schreber. go in to settings manager and have a look around..and start up pidgin messenger. | 23:44 |
| schreber | remove pidgin as well. I tend to remove a bit from a base install | 23:45 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, a lot of stores dont like to do it, or dont know to, just press them and they will do it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundling_of_Microsoft_Windows | 23:45 |
| skribblezatcha | o ok i actually use pidgin schreber, so i keep it and dont install anything else since i dont use it. | 23:46 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, we the people are not obligated to buy something with a tax in it, much less a company like m$ | 23:46 |
| skribblezatcha | cool PhoenixSTF. thanks..i will keep that in mind. | 23:46 |
| schreber | release notes are kind of bland/lacking any real detail | 23:46 |
| PhoenixSTF | skribblezatcha, np | 23:46 |
| skribblezatcha | yeah, i actually do appreciate that PhoenixSTF..because i will do it. thats awesome. | 23:47 |
| schreber | Thunar was and still is my biggest issue with Xubuntu | 23:47 |
| skribblezatcha | thats what a few say. i am a home user schreber, so i dont have many issues to be honest. | 23:48 |
| schreber | skribblezatcha: I use it at home as well but my thing is that Thunar would crash at random, heck even when I was simply trying to close it. Never noticed this issue under a vanilla Debian so I was thinking it was somehow a Ubuntu introduced issue | 23:49 |
| skribblezatcha | o ok, wow. yeah i have never had that issue before. thunar has been good to me as far as opening and closing and responding to what i do within it. | 23:50 |
| schreber | I've gotten to the point where I'd just disable thumbnails because that was one of the major issues for me back in 12.04 and it didn't seem to get a f ix. | 23:53 |
| skribblezatcha | right, i feel you schreber. | 23:54 |
| schreber | I'd run another DE but the alternatives aren't of my liking and well lxde feels more like frankenstein's monster to a real DE to me. | 23:55 |
| skribblezatcha | i know right, i cant stand lxde. | 23:55 |
| skribblezatcha | if i am not using XFCE i tend to mess with Cinnamon. other than that i dont like the other DE's either. | 23:55 |
| james0r | if i installed the beta 2 release how do i upgrade to the final release? | 23:57 |
| schreber | It's like blackbox with xfce panel and well a bit more but it just doesn't feel right. Cinnamon, something I used was nice for an alt. to say Gnome but had its problems for me as well since the panel/wing would often break (this was like 1.6 or something). | 23:57 |
| james0r | i just installed it yesterday. is it a better idea to download the new final release image and install? | 23:57 |
| knome | james0r, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 23:58 |
| skribblezatcha | well that was an issue that i had with CInnamon too schreber. at this point in the game it has a few issues that still need to be worked out and then its good to go. | 23:59 |
| james0r | ahh i did that last night and it pulled in a bunch of stuff but i thought the final release hadn't been released yet. did it again and there's nothing to upgrade. | 23:59 |
| james0r | so i guess i'm up-to-date with the final release? | 23:59 |
| knome | yep. | 23:59 |
| skribblezatcha | yeah you are good to go james0r, be on the lookout for things that could be wrong though. if anything is, then grab the final and install it. | 23:59 |
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