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ScottKjussi: mysql01:17
jarkko<andrew__> G'day.. Just wondering if getting a black screen on 14.04 Final on install is a common thing...04:16
jarkko<andrew__> ie, never get to booting xorg on the CD04:16
valoriejarkko: I would hope not!04:16
jarkkois the ati 7870 issue corrected with glamour?04:17
valoriebut 1. this isn't the support chan, #kubuntu is, and 2. all the people here are exhausted and probably elsewhere after the big push04:17
jarkkowith glamour = blank screen04:17
valoriesorry, no clue here04:17
jarkkois there any sense publishing on certain schedule if you dont have resources for it04:18
valorieI'm not sure what you mean?04:20
valoriedeadlines are deadlines, and all the flavors release together04:20
valorieI think we did an amazing job, and I'm sorry you have a problem04:21
valorieas I said, this is not a help channel04:21
jarkkoi don't have problem04:22
jarkkoi didnt post that04:22
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ovidiu-florinhello world06:11
ovidiu-florinRiddell: the LinuxTag will be only in german?06:12
lordievaderGood morning.07:42
Quintasan\o08:13
yofelmoin08:32
OdurGood work everyone!08:39
Riddellovidiu-florin: it was mostly english when I went08:42
Riddellthanks Odur :)08:43
Riddellfeedback from 14.04 seems really good so far08:54
soeegood morning :)09:21
soeedo you know some way to find out why Ark needs 30 or more seconds to open even a little file ?09:24
alketsoee: its strange09:32
alketmaybe try replacing ark with equivalent app09:32
apacheloggerRiddell: I think someone mentioned that LTS releases only go out of devel state for .109:46
apacheloggerI did not know that, also it is somewhat weird09:47
yofelapachelogger: IIRC it's for LTS -> LTS upgrades, no?09:55
yofelsaucy has to be upgradable before that as it goes EOL before .109:55
kdeuser56Congratulations to the awesome release! Special thanks to Riddell, yofel, apachelogger for the awesome support!09:57
apacheloggeryofel: dunno, IIRC someone on g+ didn't get the notification on saucy10:19
apacheloggerof course there's a multitude of reasons for that10:19
apacheloggerSupported: 110:19
yofelhm... that shouldn't have happened. The release team did want to postpone the meta-release changes, but that was only until IS sorts out the servers10:19
apacheloggerthe file is in order anyway10:19
yofelthat should've been done yesterday10:19
apacheloggeryofel: yeah the saucy->trusty file is correct10:20
apacheloggerRiddell: please revert the changes for saucy->trusty guide10:21
apacheloggerif it is not working then that is a bug somewhere and needs investigation, not working around10:21
soeealket: no i dont want to replace it :) i want to know reason of this behaviour10:22
soee2 days ago i upgraded to 14.04 at work and there all works fine10:22
soeeit takes ~1 second to open archive where PC specs are lower then here on my laptop (i7, GB ram)10:23
soee*810:23
yofelark should never need more than a moment to open an archive, if it does it's stuck somewhere10:24
kdeuser56the comments here make me pretty sad : https://plus.google.com/108785988818843470940/posts/FXcaf4hb3yx10:28
kdeuser56I will never understand why people get upset because of a name ...10:30
yofelThe name was one of the reasons, but while the result that you see in 4.13 is ok, the path to get there was a mess. (Though you don't really know that if you're not subsribed to various KDE mailing lists)10:45
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ovidiu-florinhttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 says: Download a bootable images11:02
ovidiu-florinis is singular or plural?11:02
Riddellovidiu-florin: should be singular I guess11:05
Riddellno point downloading two11:05
Riddellapachelogger: I'll revert for upgrade from saucy now that meta-release is updated11:06
soeeyofel: well for me here on laptop it needs as i aid more than 30 seconds11:06
soee*ark11:06
soeei have one more question, does the nvidia drivers always stay the same version per release11:11
soeeor there are upgrades to latest version if avaialble 11:12
ovidiu-florinRiddell: done11:12
Riddellthanks11:15
yofelsoee: strace could maybe tell what it's stuck on11:21
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:21
ovidiu-florin"and select the driver you want to use for software that has more than one supported driver" this does not make much sence to me11:21
yofelor it's stuck querying dbus... not sure what to look for that11:21
ovidiu-florini have no idea how to translate this?11:22
yofelI wonder whether that's supposed to read hardware, not software11:22
ovidiu-florinthat would make more sence11:22
BluesKajovidiu-florin, it's sense , not sence11:23
ovidiu-florinthank you BluesKaj11:23
BluesKajnp ovidiu-florin :)11:23
Riddellanyone know who this twitter account is? https://twitter.com/kubuntunetbook11:27
* Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=15111:50
alketnice design11:55
soeekubuntu has twitter account ?12:01
BluesKajtwitter isn't exactly where I'd look for info about kubuntu or linux of any kind12:03
soeebest place to get fresh info 12:04
BluesKajI'm not a twitter fan ... the kind of info there would be unreliable imo...seems so flaky12:06
soeeBluesKaj: for me rather than searching info about latest versions of sofwtere, applications etc. on various places i have it on one place 12:09
soeeso for me twitter is more like aggregator for rss channels12:09
* BluesKaj shrugs, to each his own12:11
soeeRiddell: what do you think ?12:15
Riddellsoee: about what?12:28
BluesKajwe have a couple of ppl already complaining about this error when trying to upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade12:29
Riddellensure they have kubuntu-desktop meta package installed12:30
Riddellotherwise file a bug and attach /var/log/apt/*12:31
BluesKajRiddell, are you responding to me or soee ?12:33
RiddellBluesKaj: you12:34
* Riddell runs off for easter weekend12:34
BluesKaj ont12:36
BluesKajI don't see any kubuntu-desktop meta package in muon12:37
joseRiddell: just to let you know that the periods in titles thing has been fixed and I'm working on getting backwards compatibility to all links12:43
kubotu::workspace-bugs:: [1309494] package kdm 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: su... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309494 (by bradleesargent)12:46
ovidiu-florinOur new touchpad configuration tools includes many configuration options12:56
ovidiu-florinOur new touchpad configuration tools *include* many configuration options12:56
ovidiu-florinright?12:56
ScottKovidiu-florin: Yes.13:10
Quintasaneh15:22
QuintasanScottK: Ideas where should I report stuff like closing lid not suspending and my laptop not reporting battery?15:27
Quintasanhmm15:39
Quintasanshadeslayer: Do you happen to know if nvidia drivers have problems with suspend on laptops?15:40
ScottKQuintasan: You need to see if it's a KDE issue or underlying infrastructure.  See what upower -d shows.  That'll be your first step.15:47
Quintasanaah, upower15:48
QuintasanScottK: This doesn't look very promising. Apparently no lid nor battery is present15:49
Quintasanhttp://pastebin.com/CTHYMFYf15:49
* Quintasan reports bug against upower15:55
yuriyCongratulations on the release everyone! Looking forward to upgrading soon!16:13
Quintasanyuriy: Thanks16:24
QuintasanScottK: Silly me, by some black magics I turned off ACPI17:04
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Quintasantop lel19:22
Quintasanhttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopSF1827.png19:22
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Quintasandebugging with nvidia19:22
yofelthat's a new one19:24
Quintasanplus driver manager is now broken19:26
Quintasanhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/727815119:26
Quintasanhttp://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopBZ1827.png19:26
QuintasanThat's how it looks19:26
shadeslayeryeah, doesn't give me much info19:27
shadeslayerQuintasan: can you run ubuntu-drivers list19:28
shadeslayerQuintasan: and qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices19:28
Quintasanshadeslayer:  ubuntu-drivers list output:19:29
Quintasan 19:29
Quintasandone19:29
Quintasan╰─$  qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices19:29
Quintasan[Argument: a{sa{sv}} {}]19:29
shadeslayerbackend issue, report a bug against ubuntu-drivers-common19:29
Quintasaneh19:30
Quintasanshadeslayer: Well, back to trying to get the goddamn Optimus to work19:30
ghostcubeso i did it. brought my old dell inpsiron with centrino from xp to 14.04 worked ok so far19:33
ghostcube;)19:33
ghostcubeok i noticed the trashcan widget doesnt work correct20:14
ghostcubeanyone can confirm it 20:14
valorieghostcube: in dolphin?20:21
valorieor where20:21
ghostcubeno system panel20:23
ghostcubeyou can open trash but not empty it20:23
valorietesting20:24
valorieit's just a link to dolphin though20:24
valoriewhen I click it, up pops dolphin20:24
ghostcubeyes, but if you rightklick it you normally can choose empty trash20:26
ghostcubeits greyed out here20:27
ghostcubedolphin trash empty works20:27
valoriegrayed out here too, but it's empty20:27
ghostcubehere its greyed out even if i put files in it20:29
valorieyou can talk to the folks in plasma about it in #plasma20:30
alketdoes eclipse work for you ?20:32
valorieeclipse?20:33
ghostcubehmm ok will do :)20:33
valorienot sure what that is20:33
alketeclipse the IDE20:33
alketmaybe it doesnt work for me because i installed java 820:33
valorieoh right; not sure, as I'm not a devel20:34
valorieqt developer and Kdevelop are the ones we recommend of course20:34
ghostcubehmm will there be an update for the usermanager? so you can edit groups again? does this anyone knoe so far?20:34
alketin qt creator, the welcome screen is just transparent , but everything else works though, i need eclipse for android20:35
alketits clearly java 820:37
alketjust tried java 7 and it works :D20:38
valorieghostcube: there was something done on user manager, but I'm not sure if it made it into final spin20:40
valoriemaybe the .120:40
Quintasanghostcube: no, use kuser if you want advanced user managment20:44
Quintasanat least I'm pretty sure that's what we decided some time ago20:46
Quintasanmaybe there were some changes20:46
yofelwe did20:46
yofelthere were none20:46
ghostcubeok :)20:49
* Quintasan is not sure if his messages are not too blunt20:50
ghostcubeah ok installed kuser, its what i missed :) have forgot that i need to manually install it20:54
ghostcubehavent installed completely fresh for a long time :)20:54
valorieoops, I remembered a question20:56
valoriesorry for the wrong info, ghostcube20:57
ghostcubeno problem valorie :)20:58
ovidiu-florinhttp://ro.kubuntu.org/?q=node/3021:28
ovidiu-florintranslated at last21:28
valorielooks great, ovidiu-florin!21:30
valorie\o/21:30
ovidiu-florincan't wait for the launch of the new site21:30
ovidiu-florinthanks valorie21:30
valoriehow soon before it's ready?21:31
ovidiu-florinhonestly... I believe around one or two weeks21:31
valorieI was half-following the discussion, but my knowledge of websites never got beyond plain old html21:31
ovidiu-florinafter it's done, we'll have to do some stress testing21:31
valorieso y'all were talking up in the clouds above me21:32
ovidiu-florinvalorie: don't get more knowledge than that21:32
ovidiu-florinit's a head ake21:32
ovidiu-florinit's not good to know two much21:32
ovidiu-florinsorry I'm a bit depressed right now21:32
ovidiu-florintired as hell21:33
ovidiu-florinI really was not  in the mood to translate that right now21:33
ovidiu-florinbut since noone else did it...21:33
ovidiu-florinbut they started to comment that no one is doing it21:33
valorie{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}21:34
ovidiu-florinmyeah.....21:34
* valorie serves ovidiu-florin a nice cuppa21:34
ovidiu-florinJagermeister21:34
ovidiu-florin:D21:34
valorieI learned to edit & write in the linuxchix site, years ago, but it was a headache indeed21:34
valorieget some fluid in first, then you can go for the "medicinal"21:35
valorie:-)21:35
ovidiu-florinthe fluid I need is melatonin21:35
ovidiu-florinand a hammer21:35
ovidiu-florina big one21:36
* ovidiu-florin goes to bed21:36
ovidiu-floringood night21:36
valoriesweet dreams21:36
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