[01:17] <ScottK> jussi: mysql
 G'day.. Just wondering if getting a black screen on 14.04 Final on install is a common thing...
 ie, never get to booting xorg on the CD
[04:16] <valorie> jarkko: I would hope not!
[04:17] <jarkko> is the ati 7870 issue corrected with glamour?
[04:17] <valorie> but 1. this isn't the support chan, #kubuntu is, and 2. all the people here are exhausted and probably elsewhere after the big push
[04:17] <jarkko> with glamour = blank screen
[04:17] <valorie> sorry, no clue here
[04:18] <jarkko> is there any sense publishing on certain schedule if you dont have resources for it
[04:20] <valorie> I'm not sure what you mean?
[04:20] <valorie> deadlines are deadlines, and all the flavors release together
[04:21] <valorie> I think we did an amazing job, and I'm sorry you have a problem
[04:21] <valorie> as I said, this is not a help channel
[04:22] <jarkko> i don't have problem
[04:22] <jarkko> i didnt post that
[06:11] <ovidiu-florin> hello world
[06:12] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: the LinuxTag will be only in german?
[07:42] <lordievader> Good morning.
[08:13] <Quintasan> \o
[08:32] <yofel> moin
[08:39] <Odur> Good work everyone!
[08:42] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it was mostly english when I went
[08:43] <Riddell> thanks Odur :)
[08:54] <Riddell> feedback from 14.04 seems really good so far
[09:21] <soee> good morning :)
[09:24] <soee> do you know some way to find out why Ark needs 30 or more seconds to open even a little file ?
[09:32] <alket> soee: its strange
[09:32] <alket> maybe try replacing ark with equivalent app
[09:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: I think someone mentioned that LTS releases only go out of devel state for .1
[09:47] <apachelogger> I did not know that, also it is somewhat weird
[09:55] <yofel> apachelogger: IIRC it's for LTS -> LTS upgrades, no?
[09:55] <yofel> saucy has to be upgradable before that as it goes EOL before .1
[09:57] <kdeuser56> Congratulations to the awesome release! Special thanks to Riddell, yofel, apachelogger for the awesome support!
[10:19] <apachelogger> yofel: dunno, IIRC someone on g+ didn't get the notification on saucy
[10:19] <apachelogger> of course there's a multitude of reasons for that
[10:19] <apachelogger> Supported: 1
[10:19] <yofel> hm... that shouldn't have happened. The release team did want to postpone the meta-release changes, but that was only until IS sorts out the servers
[10:19] <apachelogger> the file is in order anyway
[10:19] <yofel> that should've been done yesterday
[10:20] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah the saucy->trusty file is correct
[10:21] <apachelogger> Riddell: please revert the changes for saucy->trusty guide
[10:21] <apachelogger> if it is not working then that is a bug somewhere and needs investigation, not working around
[10:22] <soee> alket: no i dont want to replace it :) i want to know reason of this behaviour
[10:22] <soee> 2 days ago i upgraded to 14.04 at work and there all works fine
[10:23] <soee> it takes ~1 second to open archive where PC specs are lower then here on my laptop (i7, GB ram)
[10:23] <soee> *8
[10:24] <yofel> ark should never need more than a moment to open an archive, if it does it's stuck somewhere
[10:28] <kdeuser56> the comments here make me pretty sad : https://plus.google.com/108785988818843470940/posts/FXcaf4hb3yx
[10:30] <kdeuser56> I will never understand why people get upset because of a name ...
[10:45] <yofel> The name was one of the reasons, but while the result that you see in 4.13 is ok, the path to get there was a mess. (Though you don't really know that if you're not subsribed to various KDE mailing lists)
[11:02] <ovidiu-florin> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 says: Download a bootable images
[11:02] <ovidiu-florin> is is singular or plural?
[11:05] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: should be singular I guess
[11:05] <Riddell> no point downloading two
[11:06] <Riddell> apachelogger: I'll revert for upgrade from saucy now that meta-release is updated
[11:06] <soee> yofel: well for me here on laptop it needs as i aid more than 30 seconds
[11:06] <soee> *ark
[11:11] <soee> i have one more question, does the nvidia drivers always stay the same version per release
[11:12] <soee> or there are upgrades to latest version if avaialble 
[11:12] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: done
[11:15] <Riddell> thanks
[11:21] <yofel> soee: strace could maybe tell what it's stuck on
[11:21] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:21] <ovidiu-florin> "and select the driver you want to use for software that has more than one supported driver" this does not make much sence to me
[11:21] <yofel> or it's stuck querying dbus... not sure what to look for that
[11:22] <ovidiu-florin> i have no idea how to translate this?
[11:22] <yofel> I wonder whether that's supposed to read hardware, not software
[11:22] <ovidiu-florin> that would make more sence
[11:23] <BluesKaj> ovidiu-florin, it's sense , not sence
[11:23] <ovidiu-florin> thank you BluesKaj
[11:23] <BluesKaj> np ovidiu-florin :)
[11:27] <Riddell> anyone know who this twitter account is? https://twitter.com/kubuntunetbook
[11:50]  * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=151
[11:55] <alket> nice design
[12:01] <soee> kubuntu has twitter account ?
[12:03] <BluesKaj> twitter isn't exactly where I'd look for info about kubuntu or linux of any kind
[12:04] <soee> best place to get fresh info 
[12:06] <BluesKaj> I'm not a twitter fan ... the kind of info there would be unreliable imo...seems so flaky
[12:09] <soee> BluesKaj: for me rather than searching info about latest versions of sofwtere, applications etc. on various places i have it on one place 
[12:09] <soee> so for me twitter is more like aggregator for rss channels
[12:11]  * BluesKaj shrugs, to each his own
[12:15] <soee> Riddell: what do you think ?
[12:28] <Riddell> soee: about what?
[12:29] <BluesKaj> we have a couple of ppl already complaining about this error when trying to upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade
[12:30] <Riddell> ensure they have kubuntu-desktop meta package installed
[12:31] <Riddell> otherwise file a bug and attach /var/log/apt/*
[12:33] <BluesKaj> Riddell, are you responding to me or soee ?
[12:34] <Riddell> BluesKaj: you
[12:34]  * Riddell runs off for easter weekend
[12:36] <BluesKaj> 	 ont
[12:37] <BluesKaj> I don't see any kubuntu-desktop meta package in muon
[12:43] <jose> Riddell: just to let you know that the periods in titles thing has been fixed and I'm working on getting backwards compatibility to all links
[12:46] <kubotu> ::workspace-bugs:: [1309494] package kdm 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: su... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309494 (by bradleesargent)
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> Our new touchpad configuration tools includes many configuration options
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> Our new touchpad configuration tools *include* many configuration options
[12:56] <ovidiu-florin> right?
[13:10] <ScottK> ovidiu-florin: Yes.
[15:22] <Quintasan> eh
[15:27] <Quintasan> ScottK: Ideas where should I report stuff like closing lid not suspending and my laptop not reporting battery?
[15:39] <Quintasan> hmm
[15:40] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Do you happen to know if nvidia drivers have problems with suspend on laptops?
[15:47] <ScottK> Quintasan: You need to see if it's a KDE issue or underlying infrastructure.  See what upower -d shows.  That'll be your first step.
[15:48] <Quintasan> aah, upower
[15:49] <Quintasan> ScottK: This doesn't look very promising. Apparently no lid nor battery is present
[15:49] <Quintasan> http://pastebin.com/CTHYMFYf
[15:55]  * Quintasan reports bug against upower
[16:13] <yuriy> Congratulations on the release everyone! Looking forward to upgrading soon!
[16:24] <Quintasan> yuriy: Thanks
[17:04] <Quintasan> ScottK: Silly me, by some black magics I turned off ACPI
[19:22] <Quintasan> top lel
[19:22] <Quintasan> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopSF1827.png
[19:22] <Quintasan> debugging with nvidia
[19:24] <yofel> that's a new one
[19:26] <Quintasan> plus driver manager is now broken
[19:26] <Quintasan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278151
[19:26] <Quintasan> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopBZ1827.png
[19:26] <Quintasan> That's how it looks
[19:27] <shadeslayer> yeah, doesn't give me much info
[19:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: can you run ubuntu-drivers list
[19:28] <shadeslayer> Quintasan: and qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices
[19:29] <Quintasan> shadeslayer:  ubuntu-drivers list output:
[19:29] <Quintasan>  
[19:29] <Quintasan> done
[19:29] <Quintasan> ╰─$  qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices
[19:29] <Quintasan> [Argument: a{sa{sv}} {}]
[19:29] <shadeslayer> backend issue, report a bug against ubuntu-drivers-common
[19:30] <Quintasan> eh
[19:30] <Quintasan> shadeslayer: Well, back to trying to get the goddamn Optimus to work
[19:33] <ghostcube> so i did it. brought my old dell inpsiron with centrino from xp to 14.04 worked ok so far
[19:33] <ghostcube> ;)
[20:14] <ghostcube> ok i noticed the trashcan widget doesnt work correct
[20:14] <ghostcube> anyone can confirm it 
[20:21] <valorie> ghostcube: in dolphin?
[20:21] <valorie> or where
[20:23] <ghostcube> no system panel
[20:23] <ghostcube> you can open trash but not empty it
[20:24] <valorie> testing
[20:24] <valorie> it's just a link to dolphin though
[20:24] <valorie> when I click it, up pops dolphin
[20:26] <ghostcube> yes, but if you rightklick it you normally can choose empty trash
[20:27] <ghostcube> its greyed out here
[20:27] <ghostcube> dolphin trash empty works
[20:27] <valorie> grayed out here too, but it's empty
[20:29] <ghostcube> here its greyed out even if i put files in it
[20:30] <valorie> you can talk to the folks in plasma about it in #plasma
[20:32] <alket> does eclipse work for you ?
[20:33] <valorie> eclipse?
[20:33] <ghostcube> hmm ok will do :)
[20:33] <valorie> not sure what that is
[20:33] <alket> eclipse the IDE
[20:33] <alket> maybe it doesnt work for me because i installed java 8
[20:34] <valorie> oh right; not sure, as I'm not a devel
[20:34] <valorie> qt developer and Kdevelop are the ones we recommend of course
[20:34] <ghostcube> hmm will there be an update for the usermanager? so you can edit groups again? does this anyone knoe so far?
[20:35] <alket> in qt creator, the welcome screen is just transparent , but everything else works though, i need eclipse for android
[20:37] <alket> its clearly java 8
[20:38] <alket> just tried java 7 and it works :D
[20:40] <valorie> ghostcube: there was something done on user manager, but I'm not sure if it made it into final spin
[20:40] <valorie> maybe the .1
[20:44] <Quintasan> ghostcube: no, use kuser if you want advanced user managment
[20:46] <Quintasan> at least I'm pretty sure that's what we decided some time ago
[20:46] <Quintasan> maybe there were some changes
[20:46] <yofel> we did
[20:46] <yofel> there were none
[20:49] <ghostcube> ok :)
[20:50]  * Quintasan is not sure if his messages are not too blunt
[20:54] <ghostcube> ah ok installed kuser, its what i missed :) have forgot that i need to manually install it
[20:54] <ghostcube> havent installed completely fresh for a long time :)
[20:56] <valorie> oops, I remembered a question
[20:57] <valorie> sorry for the wrong info, ghostcube
[20:58] <ghostcube> no problem valorie :)
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> http://ro.kubuntu.org/?q=node/30
[21:28] <ovidiu-florin> translated at last
[21:30] <valorie> looks great, ovidiu-florin!
[21:30] <valorie> \o/
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> can't wait for the launch of the new site
[21:30] <ovidiu-florin> thanks valorie
[21:31] <valorie> how soon before it's ready?
[21:31] <ovidiu-florin> honestly... I believe around one or two weeks
[21:31] <valorie> I was half-following the discussion, but my knowledge of websites never got beyond plain old html
[21:31] <ovidiu-florin> after it's done, we'll have to do some stress testing
[21:32] <valorie> so y'all were talking up in the clouds above me
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin> valorie: don't get more knowledge than that
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin> it's a head ake
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin> it's not good to know two much
[21:32] <ovidiu-florin> sorry I'm a bit depressed right now
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> tired as hell
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> I really was not  in the mood to translate that right now
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> but since noone else did it...
[21:33] <ovidiu-florin> but they started to comment that no one is doing it
[21:34] <valorie> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> myeah.....
[21:34]  * valorie serves ovidiu-florin a nice cuppa
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> Jagermeister
[21:34] <ovidiu-florin> :D
[21:34] <valorie> I learned to edit & write in the linuxchix site, years ago, but it was a headache indeed
[21:35] <valorie> get some fluid in first, then you can go for the "medicinal"
[21:35] <valorie> :-)
[21:35] <ovidiu-florin> the fluid I need is melatonin
[21:35] <ovidiu-florin> and a hammer
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> a big one
[21:36]  * ovidiu-florin goes to bed
[21:36] <ovidiu-florin> good night
[21:36] <valorie> sweet dreams