[01:17] jussi: mysql [04:16] G'day.. Just wondering if getting a black screen on 14.04 Final on install is a common thing... [04:16] ie, never get to booting xorg on the CD [04:16] jarkko: I would hope not! [04:17] is the ati 7870 issue corrected with glamour? [04:17] but 1. this isn't the support chan, #kubuntu is, and 2. all the people here are exhausted and probably elsewhere after the big push [04:17] with glamour = blank screen [04:17] sorry, no clue here [04:18] is there any sense publishing on certain schedule if you dont have resources for it [04:20] I'm not sure what you mean? [04:20] deadlines are deadlines, and all the flavors release together [04:21] I think we did an amazing job, and I'm sorry you have a problem [04:21] as I said, this is not a help channel [04:22] i don't have problem [04:22] i didnt post that === jono is now known as Guest60783 === Guest60783 is now known as hiddenbacon [06:11] hello world [06:12] Riddell: the LinuxTag will be only in german? [07:42] Good morning. [08:13] \o [08:32] moin [08:39] Good work everyone! [08:42] ovidiu-florin: it was mostly english when I went [08:43] thanks Odur :) [08:54] feedback from 14.04 seems really good so far [09:21] good morning :) [09:24] do you know some way to find out why Ark needs 30 or more seconds to open even a little file ? [09:32] soee: its strange [09:32] maybe try replacing ark with equivalent app [09:46] Riddell: I think someone mentioned that LTS releases only go out of devel state for .1 [09:47] I did not know that, also it is somewhat weird [09:55] apachelogger: IIRC it's for LTS -> LTS upgrades, no? [09:55] saucy has to be upgradable before that as it goes EOL before .1 [09:57] Congratulations to the awesome release! Special thanks to Riddell, yofel, apachelogger for the awesome support! [10:19] yofel: dunno, IIRC someone on g+ didn't get the notification on saucy [10:19] of course there's a multitude of reasons for that [10:19] Supported: 1 [10:19] hm... that shouldn't have happened. The release team did want to postpone the meta-release changes, but that was only until IS sorts out the servers [10:19] the file is in order anyway [10:19] that should've been done yesterday [10:20] yofel: yeah the saucy->trusty file is correct [10:21] Riddell: please revert the changes for saucy->trusty guide [10:21] if it is not working then that is a bug somewhere and needs investigation, not working around [10:22] alket: no i dont want to replace it :) i want to know reason of this behaviour [10:22] 2 days ago i upgraded to 14.04 at work and there all works fine [10:23] it takes ~1 second to open archive where PC specs are lower then here on my laptop (i7, GB ram) [10:23] *8 [10:24] ark should never need more than a moment to open an archive, if it does it's stuck somewhere [10:28] the comments here make me pretty sad : https://plus.google.com/108785988818843470940/posts/FXcaf4hb3yx [10:30] I will never understand why people get upset because of a name ... [10:45] The name was one of the reasons, but while the result that you see in 4.13 is ok, the path to get there was a mess. (Though you don't really know that if you're not subsribed to various KDE mailing lists) === jacky is now known as Not === Not is now known as jacky [11:02] http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 says: Download a bootable images [11:02] is is singular or plural? [11:05] ovidiu-florin: should be singular I guess [11:05] no point downloading two [11:06] apachelogger: I'll revert for upgrade from saucy now that meta-release is updated [11:06] yofel: well for me here on laptop it needs as i aid more than 30 seconds [11:06] *ark [11:11] i have one more question, does the nvidia drivers always stay the same version per release [11:12] or there are upgrades to latest version if avaialble [11:12] Riddell: done [11:15] thanks [11:21] soee: strace could maybe tell what it's stuck on [11:21] 'Morning folks [11:21] "and select the driver you want to use for software that has more than one supported driver" this does not make much sence to me [11:21] or it's stuck querying dbus... not sure what to look for that [11:22] i have no idea how to translate this? [11:22] I wonder whether that's supposed to read hardware, not software [11:22] that would make more sence [11:23] ovidiu-florin, it's sense , not sence [11:23] thank you BluesKaj [11:23] np ovidiu-florin :) [11:27] anyone know who this twitter account is? https://twitter.com/kubuntunetbook [11:50] * Riddell blogs http://wire.kubuntu.org/?p=151 [11:55] nice design [12:01] kubuntu has twitter account ? [12:03] twitter isn't exactly where I'd look for info about kubuntu or linux of any kind [12:04] best place to get fresh info [12:06] I'm not a twitter fan ... the kind of info there would be unreliable imo...seems so flaky [12:09] BluesKaj: for me rather than searching info about latest versions of sofwtere, applications etc. on various places i have it on one place [12:09] so for me twitter is more like aggregator for rss channels [12:11] * BluesKaj shrugs, to each his own [12:15] Riddell: what do you think ? [12:28] soee: about what? [12:29] we have a couple of ppl already complaining about this error when trying to upgrade, An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade [12:30] ensure they have kubuntu-desktop meta package installed [12:31] otherwise file a bug and attach /var/log/apt/* [12:33] Riddell, are you responding to me or soee ? [12:34] BluesKaj: you [12:34] * Riddell runs off for easter weekend [12:36] ont [12:37] I don't see any kubuntu-desktop meta package in muon [12:43] Riddell: just to let you know that the periods in titles thing has been fixed and I'm working on getting backwards compatibility to all links [12:46] ::workspace-bugs:: [1309494] package kdm 4:4.11.6-0ubuntu1~ubuntu13.10~ppa2 failed to install/upgrade: ErrorMessage: su... @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309494 (by bradleesargent) [12:56] Our new touchpad configuration tools includes many configuration options [12:56] Our new touchpad configuration tools *include* many configuration options [12:56] right? [13:10] ovidiu-florin: Yes. [15:22] eh [15:27] ScottK: Ideas where should I report stuff like closing lid not suspending and my laptop not reporting battery? [15:39] hmm [15:40] shadeslayer: Do you happen to know if nvidia drivers have problems with suspend on laptops? [15:47] Quintasan: You need to see if it's a KDE issue or underlying infrastructure. See what upower -d shows. That'll be your first step. [15:48] aah, upower [15:49] ScottK: This doesn't look very promising. Apparently no lid nor battery is present [15:49] http://pastebin.com/CTHYMFYf [15:55] * Quintasan reports bug against upower [16:13] Congratulations on the release everyone! Looking forward to upgrading soon! [16:24] yuriy: Thanks [17:04] ScottK: Silly me, by some black magics I turned off ACPI === valorie is now known as KDE-valorie [19:22] top lel [19:22] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopSF1827.png === KDE-valorie is now known as valorie [19:22] debugging with nvidia [19:24] that's a new one [19:26] plus driver manager is now broken [19:26] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278151 [19:26] http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/18/plasma-desktopBZ1827.png [19:26] That's how it looks [19:27] yeah, doesn't give me much info [19:28] Quintasan: can you run ubuntu-drivers list [19:28] Quintasan: and qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices [19:29] shadeslayer: ubuntu-drivers list output: [19:29] [19:29] done [19:29] ╰─$ qdbus --literal org.kubuntu.DriverManager /DriverManager org.kubuntu.DriverManager.devices [19:29] [Argument: a{sa{sv}} {}] [19:29] backend issue, report a bug against ubuntu-drivers-common [19:30] eh [19:30] shadeslayer: Well, back to trying to get the goddamn Optimus to work [19:33] so i did it. brought my old dell inpsiron with centrino from xp to 14.04 worked ok so far [19:33] ;) [20:14] ok i noticed the trashcan widget doesnt work correct [20:14] anyone can confirm it [20:21] ghostcube: in dolphin? [20:21] or where [20:23] no system panel [20:23] you can open trash but not empty it [20:24] testing [20:24] it's just a link to dolphin though [20:24] when I click it, up pops dolphin [20:26] yes, but if you rightklick it you normally can choose empty trash [20:27] its greyed out here [20:27] dolphin trash empty works [20:27] grayed out here too, but it's empty [20:29] here its greyed out even if i put files in it [20:30] you can talk to the folks in plasma about it in #plasma [20:32] does eclipse work for you ? [20:33] eclipse? [20:33] hmm ok will do :) [20:33] not sure what that is [20:33] eclipse the IDE [20:33] maybe it doesnt work for me because i installed java 8 [20:34] oh right; not sure, as I'm not a devel [20:34] qt developer and Kdevelop are the ones we recommend of course [20:34] hmm will there be an update for the usermanager? so you can edit groups again? does this anyone knoe so far? [20:35] in qt creator, the welcome screen is just transparent , but everything else works though, i need eclipse for android [20:37] its clearly java 8 [20:38] just tried java 7 and it works :D [20:40] ghostcube: there was something done on user manager, but I'm not sure if it made it into final spin [20:40] maybe the .1 [20:44] ghostcube: no, use kuser if you want advanced user managment [20:46] at least I'm pretty sure that's what we decided some time ago [20:46] maybe there were some changes [20:46] we did [20:46] there were none [20:49] ok :) [20:50] * Quintasan is not sure if his messages are not too blunt [20:54] ah ok installed kuser, its what i missed :) have forgot that i need to manually install it [20:54] havent installed completely fresh for a long time :) [20:56] oops, I remembered a question [20:57] sorry for the wrong info, ghostcube [20:58] no problem valorie :) [21:28] http://ro.kubuntu.org/?q=node/30 [21:28] translated at last [21:30] looks great, ovidiu-florin! [21:30] \o/ [21:30] can't wait for the launch of the new site [21:30] thanks valorie [21:31] how soon before it's ready? [21:31] honestly... I believe around one or two weeks [21:31] I was half-following the discussion, but my knowledge of websites never got beyond plain old html [21:31] after it's done, we'll have to do some stress testing [21:32] so y'all were talking up in the clouds above me [21:32] valorie: don't get more knowledge than that [21:32] it's a head ake [21:32] it's not good to know two much [21:32] sorry I'm a bit depressed right now [21:33] tired as hell [21:33] I really was not in the mood to translate that right now [21:33] but since noone else did it... [21:33] but they started to comment that no one is doing it [21:34] {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} [21:34] myeah..... [21:34] * valorie serves ovidiu-florin a nice cuppa [21:34] Jagermeister [21:34] :D [21:34] I learned to edit & write in the linuxchix site, years ago, but it was a headache indeed [21:35] get some fluid in first, then you can go for the "medicinal" [21:35] :-) [21:35] the fluid I need is melatonin [21:35] and a hammer [21:36] a big one [21:36] * ovidiu-florin goes to bed [21:36] good night [21:36] sweet dreams === Not is now known as jacky