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Rocco-_maybe you need a ppa?.. xD00:00
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bpromptwilfredo:    https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype00:03
Rocco-_bprompt: is out the kde update for kubuntu 12.04 ? thanks00:04
Rocco-_still dont have it xD00:04
bpromptRocco-_:    I don't think so00:04
bpromptnot that I have checked, but afaik there's one yet, not even for ubuntu either yet00:05
Rocco-_maybe in a few hours-days..00:05
bpromptwoops... ahemm   there ISN't one yet I meant00:05
Rocco-_well, thanks bprompt00:07
Rocco-_im waiting....00:07
wilfredobprompt Thanks, I'll try to look at the address you sent me, excuse my ignorance, just count on me for any thing that may help, if not understand something touch me go to your cooperation, I hope not to bother00:07
Rocco-_im on KDE 4.12.300:08
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OmnipotentEntityHi there, sorry for bugging.  I'm having what is I guess a driver issue with an nvidia card.  The 3rd monitor is flickering badly and is green with a large amount of static.  My setup is 3x 2560x1440 monitors connected to two 780 Tis running nvidia-337 driver.  I have base mosaic enabled in nvidia-settings.  The one experiencing issues is on the secondary video card.  Screenshots do not reveal graphical corruption.  And I've co00:22
OmnipotentEntitynfirmed that both the cable and the monitor are working properly.  Any suggestions?00:22
vistakillergz for this great release :)00:34
dutchuss2016_what do i do if ubuntu installs on the  wrong drive01:46
dutchuss2016_id didntt give aa option to choose the drive i want it on01:46
dutchuss2016_12.04lts alongside windows01:47
zematynnadanyone have any trouble installing 14.04 from a USB drive?  I get the initial screen with choices to start kubuntu, boot from first disk etc.02:38
zematynnadwhen I click on start kubuntu the screen changes to black and it never gets any farther than that02:39
carlos_wer03:03
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andrew__G'day.. Just wondering if getting a black screen on 14.04 Final on install is a common thing...03:30
andrew__ie, never get to booting xorg on the CD03:31
rohandoes kubuntu release upgrader check for available disk space (including download + temp) before proceeding?05:08
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jarkko        Memory at d0000000 (64-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]05:24
jarkkolspci -n -v -s 01:00.005:24
jarkkowhat memory is that?05:24
rvdvSeems 14.04 can not be installed on my system ... installer crashed after error message about console-setup05:35
rvdv2 times05:35
rvdverror says: trying to overwrite '/etc/console-setup/compose.CP1256.inc' which is also in package console-setup 1.10205:38
rvdvwhile installing console-setup-linux-_1.102_all.deb05:39
valoriervdv: did you try upgrading instead?05:42
rvdvbtw: installing the 64bits image from usb05:43
rvdvvalorie: No because i'm overwriting OpenSUSE05:43
rvdvAnd formated the partition05:44
valorieah05:46
valorieand you are sure there is enough room?05:46
valorieI've never seen that error message05:46
valoriehave you googled it?05:46
rvdv20 GB should be enough I guess05:47
rvdvfor /05:47
rvdvnot yet googled it ... but it's strange the error came up two times05:48
valorieyes05:48
valorieI'd google it05:49
valorie<--- clueless05:49
rvdv2 results but not about what I have05:50
valorie:(05:50
valoriedid the live session work?05:50
rvdvyes ... after the installer crashed it falls back to the live session05:51
rvdvno problems there05:51
valorieinteresting05:51
valorieand you verified the image before and after burning?05:52
rvdvMaybe I try another ubuntu flavor :-) ... can always install kubuntu-desktop later05:52
valoriesure, but the installer is pretty much the same05:52
valoriewe just have different slides, etc.05:52
rvdvNot burned ... put on USB05:53
valoriesure, ok05:53
rvdvNot checked ... I can do that first off course05:53
valorieI mean, it's probably ok if the live session works05:54
rvdvdownloaded through torrent so I guess the image was OK ...05:54
valorie!iso05:56
ubottuTo mount an ISO disc image, type « sudo mount -o loop <ISO-filename> <mountpoint> » - There is a list of useful cd image conversion tools at http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/CD_Image_Conversion - Always verify the ISO using !MD5 before !burning.05:56
valorie!md505:56
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows05:56
rvdvYeah ... doing a md5sum check now05:56
rvdvSeems correct05:57
rvdvaefdc97d26e51066f5b50d36c5d4218c05:57
valoriedamn, I'm out of ideas05:58
rvdvI try once again to make a new USB install disk05:59
valoriebest of luck06:00
rvdv;) thnx06:00
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Guest27180http://paste.ubuntu.com/7273275/ aaaaaaaaaaa why does the 14.04 lts amd64 iso do this to me?06:11
valorieGuest27180: at what point in the process did you see these errors?06:16
valorieduring an attempt to install?06:16
Guest27180valorie: i can't launch ubiquity kdeui at all06:16
valoriebecause the last line indicates that the online link may have broken06:18
valorieit sounds like the install didn't finish for some reason06:18
Guest27180well it never opened06:18
valoriedid the live session run oK?06:19
valoriedid you verify the iso?06:19
valorie!md506:19
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows06:19
Guest27180valorie: it's running now, and yes the iso is good06:19
Guest27180valorie: rhe live session is very slow to start applications06:19
valorieyes, it would be06:20
Guest27180it takes 20 seconds to start loading anything06:20
Guest27180my fedora disc launched thigns pretty much instantly06:20
salsero|2its  reading from the cd...06:20
Guest27180Well it shouldn't be 10x slower than kde fedora06:20
Guest27180quassel took 30 seconds to open, but on fedora live it takes 3 seconds :-/06:21
valorieto make sure that it is completely installed, I would try in a console `sudo apt-get install -f`06:21
Guest27180the disk drive ins't even busy for the first 25 seonds06:21
valoriesounds like your CD drive is taking a long time to be polled06:22
Guest27180ya06:22
valoriedo you know how to access a console when you can't login properly?06:23
Guest27180ctrl alt f2345...06:23
valorieyes06:23
valoriebut you'll have to remove the CD06:24
valorieactually, I assume a DVD06:24
Guest27180there's no cd version anymore lol06:24
valoriesince we don't supply the mini-iso anymore06:24
Guest27180except lubuntu i think06:24
Guest27180ok.... it works if i run it from root term06:24
Guest27180but not as live user06:24
valoriethere is a net-install somewhere from ubuntu06:24
valorieroot?06:25
Guest27180yup06:25
valorieyou should never run as root06:25
Guest27180well, it's running as root06:25
Guest27180ubiquity jsut fails to start as live user :-/06:25
valoriedid you try this? to make sure that it is completely installed, I would try in a console `sudo apt-get install -f`06:25
Guest27180valorie: returns nothing, the iso has no packing issues06:26
valoriewell, sounds as if you have a genuine bug06:26
Guest27180ok that's nice, my terminal is frozen06:27
Guest27180for some reason kde says there's 1 running job in the tray, no clue why06:28
valorieperhaps wait a min, and see if install -f is actually doing something?06:29
Guest27180well i was ogint o copy paste the 0 to upgrade install etc but right clicking the temrinal froze it, nice06:29
Guest27180and ny disk drive spun down.... and the terminal is not frozen again06:30
Guest27180ok so there's some horrible distro bug in 140406:30
salsero|2crap, the upgrader is removing losts of packages, gonna have to reinstall a lot of stuff06:30
salsero|2lots*06:30
Guest27180i manually update because apt is stupid and can't hadnle multiple versions like yum06:31
valoriewell, you can always install `kubuntu-desktop`06:31
valoriemultiple versions of what?06:31
Guest27180valorie: packages06:31
valoriethat sounds like a nightmare06:32
Guest27180valorie: so when you updage apt will riip thigns out before06:32
valoriewhy would you want multiple versions?06:32
Guest27180valorie: for transitions through conflicting upgrades06:32
Guest27180valorie: apt will jsut get stuck06:32
valorieinteresting; never has happened here06:32
valorieat least, not for years06:33
Guest27180valorie: debian is prety good handling version upgrades though06:33
Guest27180valorie: i can go from stable to testing or even sid usually with upgrade06:33
valorieonce I found kubuntu, I stuck with it06:34
Guest27180valorie: i've never had ubuntu upgrades work... unless you rip out everything.. but easier jsut using the upgrade tol or reinstalling06:34
valorieso I've not really tried other distros for years06:34
valorieand I usually upgrade rather than re-install06:34
valorieI did so this time as well06:34
Guest27180valorie: suse is the best KDE distro but there's no LTS releases or regualr disk respins :( they really are squandering that06:34
Guest27180I'd say kubuntu is the secon best, followed by fedora06:35
valoriethe suse folks are great06:35
valorieso are fedora, arch, etc.06:36
Guest27180Ya, they're big contributers06:36
valoriebut home is kubuntu06:36
salsero|2can you upgrade between versions without reinstalling in fedora?06:36
valorieI don't think so06:36
valoriebut the fedora people seem to enjoy it that way06:37
valorie:-)06:37
Guest27180You can, but you have to manualy handle some things06:37
salsero|2that's major for me, so a reason why I stick with kubuntu06:37
Guest27180The current version of suse is a kinda-lts release, but nowhere near as long as kubuntu06:37
Guest27180KDE is such a popular desktop you'd think they'd jsut have an official KDE distro at this point lol06:38
Guest27180gnome3 was the best thing that could have happened to kde lol06:39
valorieok, now we are on #kubuntu-offtopic discussion06:39
valorieplease let's take it there06:39
Guest27180not really busy enough to need 2 channels, unless i'm on at a really slow hour06:40
valorieKDE community releases good software; why would we want to become a distro too?06:40
Guest27180valorie: To rule the world?06:40
valoriewe don't have enough hours in the day to do everything we want, right now06:41
Guest27180is kubuntu the most popular kde distro? it's hard finding usage numbers06:42
valorievery hard, outside of various groups doing polls06:42
valorieso many people torrent06:42
valorienot sure how you would get better numbers without a "signal" -- and who would accept that?06:43
rohankubuntu 13.10 -> 14.04 upgrade went smoothly, without a *single* hitch06:43
valorienice06:43
rohancongrats on an excellent release, folks06:43
Guest27180Only if there was a little call-home util like ubuntu just to poll the number of machenes06:43
rohanexcept baloo is killing my cpu right now :( but i guess that won't be for long06:43
Guest27180valorie: ubuntu does via the unity thingy06:43
salsero|2roah: good for you06:43
salsero|2mine is going to remove some packages I really need06:44
rohansalsero|2: like what?06:44
Guest27180salsero|2: ppas like to cause trouble with upgrades06:44
valorieremoving ppas first is a wise move06:44
salsero|2kdiff3 kompare kvirc kppp vlc rsibreak smbclient yakuake06:44
salsero|2i will fix that up after the upgrade06:45
salsero|2i do have ppa, even though those arent packages i got from there06:45
jackyrohan: you can disable baloo by making it ignore your $HOME directory06:45
jackybaloo's pretty smart when it comes to indexing data06:46
rohanjacky: i figure once it does what it does, it won't be as bad .. if it is, i'll probably do what you suggested :)06:46
valorieI had no problem with baloo at all06:46
rohani had kubuntu-backports-ppa enabled, and still the upgrade went smooth!06:46
Guest27180I don't get why there's indexing and akondai and all that, i've never found much fo a use for it06:46
rohansalsero|2: yes, you can just reinstall the packages after the ugprade06:46
valoriethat one is OK06:46
jackywell, if you want a quick solution; I'm giving you one recommended by the devs behind it :)06:46
valorierohan: if you run into problems, please file a bug06:47
jackyofc06:47
jackyGuest27180: you do webdev?06:47
valoriethe developer is very responsive06:47
rohanvalorie: problems in? baloo/06:47
valorieyes06:47
valoriewell, or anything06:47
jackyYou wouldn't search against a database that has data, you'd use a specialized search engine for that06:47
rohanah i see. actually cpu is down to 6-8% now so it's all good06:47
valoriehaving the LTS be virtually perfect by the .01 would be great06:47
jackyit was probably compiling a list of files to look into :06:48
rohandid we have any SRUs yet?06:48
rohanany 0-days?06:48
jacky*:)06:48
Guest27180kde is a lot bigger than macos, but much smaller than windows in terms of service load06:48
Guest27180There's tons of 0-days, whooo firefox06:48
valoriethe new kdeconnect will be SRUd06:48
valorieit hit just too late06:48
rohanGuest27180: what's wrong with firefox?06:48
Guest27180rohan: gekko is easier to own than webkit06:49
rohanwow i still can't believe i'm upgraded.. never had such a painless experience in the past.06:49
rohanpast being with other distros, not kubuntu :)06:49
Guest27180Although webgl = all browsers are 0'd06:49
rohanGuest27180: i meant 0-days after today's release :)06:50
Guest27180rohan: well it hasn't exactly been a long time to find more06:50
rohanGuest27180: correct, but some distros already had 0'ds (non-security) at time of release, e.g. ubuntu-kylin06:52
rohanand some distros also pushed release back, e.g. mythbuntu06:52
valorieoh, I thought mythbuntu was out of business06:52
valorieif they are coming back, that's great06:52
rohanbecause of the holiday, they were actually going to release it next week. but infinity pitched in and it's out today :)06:53
valorieI don't think I'm seeding that one06:53
valoriefixed06:54
rohanwho's the boss? valorie's the boss!06:54
valoriethanks for the information06:55
valorieI seed all the *buntu isos06:55
rohandoes anyone know how to create a multiboot live usb with all the flavours?06:55
rohanthere is YUMI but it's windows only -- http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/06:56
valorieI used to have a multiboot script, but you could only do 406:56
rohan4 is enough, i'd like to (k,x,g,,)ubuntu06:57
rohanmind sharing, valorie ?06:58
valorielet me look it up06:59
valoriehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tools_to_create_Live_USB_systems07:01
Programmer_14.04 upgrade has been on this all day, what do i do?   cups: restarting...07:01
valorielooks like the one I used was sourceforge.net/projects/multisystem/07:01
valorieI haven't used it for a year or two, however07:02
valorieso I can't say how well it works now07:02
rohani found the same thing on google.. it's nasty, the sh script automatically elevated to root and put some random repo in my sources.list without asking07:03
rohan#$%@#$!07:04
valoriebummer07:05
valorieI found it a bit tricky, but useful for awhile07:06
Programmer_can anyone help?07:10
salsero|2Programmer_: whats that?07:13
Programmer_14.04 upgrade has been on this all day, what do i do?   cups: restarting...07:13
salsero|2stuck in there?07:14
Programmer_yeah07:14
salsero|2try restarting the service using another shell07:14
Programmer_how so?07:14
salsero|2sudo service cups restart07:14
Programmer_cups start/post-start, (post-start) process 356707:15
Programmer_start: Job is already running: cups07:15
ggciao07:15
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Programmer_salsero|207:16
salsero|2sudo service cups stop07:16
salsero|2sudo service cups start07:16
Programmer_wow...that unfroze it07:17
Programmer_why wasnt it able to do it normally?07:17
Programmer_!pastebin07:18
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salsero|2well, could have been that cups had a problem07:18
salsero|2and had some zombie sub-processes07:18
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Programmer_thanks salsero|207:20
rohanvalorie: ironically, now i am using a windows VM to use YUMI to create a multi-boot liveusb07:23
valorieheh07:24
mokushhi guys, why is the tahr in the promo banner so pixelated? http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.0407:29
valorienot sure07:30
valoriedoes look sorta rough07:30
mokushvalorie: any idea if the tahr is available to download somewhere on the ubuntu site?07:41
valoriethat image?07:42
ikoniamokush: have you looked on kubuntu.com / ubuntu.com ?07:42
valorieI'm not sure where aaron found it, tbh07:42
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valoriewe were searching a month or two ago07:42
lordievaderGood morning.07:42
valorieomgubuntu had something close07:42
mokushvalorie: do you have the svg source to the blue banner? I found a tahr that I can probably trace better07:47
valoriemokush: I don't07:53
valorieyou might write to kubuntu-devel, or just contact ahoneybun directly07:54
lordievadermokush: I suppose ahoneybun has those.07:54
valoriehe's on G+, etc.07:54
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AjTeehi i have a problem08:41
AjTeeKubuntu said that it is the new distrybution available08:42
AjTeebut I can't upgrade it because I am getting this "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.   This can be caused by:  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu "08:42
AjTeehow to fix it?08:42
AjTeei am using 13.10 Kubuntu Final now08:42
salsero|2remove the packages that are outside the ubuntu tree08:46
AjTeecan you explain me it? ho to do it ?08:51
AjTee*how08:51
salsero|2do you know which packages are?08:51
AjTeeno08:53
AjTeei don't understand you08:53
AjTeecan you explain me it in steps08:53
salsero|2kinda hard08:54
AjTeethis is my sources.list08:54
AjTeehttp://wklej.org/id/1336020/08:54
AjTeeshould remove other ppas?08:54
AjTeeubuntu tree?08:54
salsero|2yee08:55
salsero|2disable them08:55
salsero|2then apt-get update08:55
AjTeehow to disable them?08:56
salsero|2using muon08:57
salsero|2then software sources08:57
salsero|2you polish?08:57
AjTeeyes09:04
AjTeepolish09:04
AjTeeI have disabled other ppas - not help09:04
nikolajhallo, after upgradiong to 14.04 i can not access my desktop, any suggestions?09:05
salsero|2sorry, my upgrade also failed, I have to take care of that now09:05
salsero|2nice work ubuntu..09:06
salsero|2be right back, i hope09:06
AjTeeso it is servers problem?09:06
AjTeeor on my system?09:06
AjTeeI have disabled third ppa's, and I have still a problem09:12
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nesciusI guess you get it a lot now, but when will kubuntu be ready for do-release-upgrade ?09:19
nesciusubuntu core parts are ready for upgrading but nothing from kde09:20
rcw2anything special I should do when upgrading to Tahr from 13.10?  Or is clicking the upgrade icon and following the steps expected to be sufficient?09:25
salsero|2back09:29
AjTeegetting this http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/images/5whyggkrLJ.png09:31
AjTeedisable third person ppa's t didn't help09:31
salsero|2use the command line to see if additional information is provided09:32
salsero|2would help if you switched to english09:32
AjTeehow to switch to the english?09:33
salsero|2change your locale09:34
salsero|2in system settings09:34
AjTeeand after upgrade switch to polish again?09:34
salsero|2you can yes09:34
AjTeewhy it isn't working in polish?09:37
salsero|2it doesn't matter, it's just as you might expect I dont understand a thing...09:38
AjTeewhy in english update should work but in polish not?09:41
salsero|2omg..09:42
salsero|2i am not saying the english works and the polish doesnt09:43
salsero|2in the command line09:43
salsero|2sudo do-release-upgrade09:43
AjTeewith this command I am getting this: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.   This can be caused by:  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu09:47
akelahi, anyone able to update from 13.10 to 14.04 ?09:48
salsero|2akela: with some problems but yes09:49
akelahmpf09:50
salsero|2i had some important packages removed, samba-libs broken, upgrade application crashed09:52
akelawhooah :)09:52
salsero|2but I am ok now09:53
salsero|2and in 14.0409:53
akelai have the same problem like AjTee  An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.09:54
AjTeei am getting an error An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.   This can be caused by:  * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu  * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu09:54
AjTeeand I don't know .. wait?09:54
soopsMy webcam, a Chicony model built-in to the laptop, works perfectly well in Cheese (capture + live view) but is not on the list of cameras if I try to add it in Kamera, and auto-detection in digiKam and gphoto shows nothing10:07
soopsdriver is uvc10:07
soopsHow can I add it to Kamera?10:07
rcw2are there any generalized kde performance improvements from 13.10 to 14.04?10:19
rcw2should it run 'faster'10:19
daumhey guys - i just updated to 14, but when it went to reboot i get grub_term_highlight color not found and it goes into rescue mode....googling around it seems most recommendations are to go to a live cd and reinstall....i don't have a usb key handy so if i could avoid that i'd prefer....is there anyway to fix it from grub rescue?10:26
salsero|2there might be depending on the problem10:27
daumsalsero|2, found http://askubuntu.com/questions/197833/recovering-from-grub-rescue-crash but when i do the insmod linux i get the highlight color error again10:28
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soopsdaum: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=846317 is for the same error after update on Suse, but if it's a strictly Grub thing then it might be solved in similar way.10:46
soopsLast message in that thread says: 1. reset MBR on sda and sdb 2. check that the menu entries in grub.cfg are pointing to your root partiation 3. reinstall grub using instructions at http://forums.opensuse.org/content.php/128-Re-install-Grub2-from-DVD-Rescue10:46
ubottubugzilla.novell.com bug 846317 in Installation "bunch of issues during update" [Critical,New]10:46
daumsoops, ah ok..well i found a live cd trying to figure out how to properly reinstall grub...my disks are in raid and when i booted to the live cd it shows up as a "loop device" the / of my raid.  just gotta figure out how to chroot to it10:47
soopsah ok10:47
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yajany open source trouble ticket software alternative to otrs or request tracker10:54
yajI am looking for something sexy that sales can use10:54
tsimpsonI know of osTicket10:55
rcw2are there any generalized kde performance improvements from 13.10 to 14.04?11:07
wizz33my upgrade from 13.4 seemes to have stalled on configuring bcmkl-kernel-source.11:08
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naftilos7614.04 is out! Anyone tried it?11:21
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:21
salsero|2ye11:21
salsero|2i am ont 14.0411:21
salsero|2but the upgrade was bumpy11:22
ds9boonI have a question about Knotes - post upgrade to 14.04 Kubuntu.11:28
ds9boonknotes is not working - and I have lost my notes after a failed migration spawned by Akonodi11:28
ds9boonI assumed the Knotes 'files' were stored as simple text files somewhere......   I'd be happy to recover those11:28
rcw2are there any generalized kde performance improvements from 13.10 to 14.04?11:29
wizz33my upgrade from 13.4 seemes to have stalled on configuring bcmkl-kernel-source.11:30
BluesKajwizz33, 13.04 to 14.04 directly?11:34
ds9boonafk 30 mins11:36
naftilos76During most of the occasions where i upgraded from one ver to another i had issues of some kind. What resolved the situation was installing a fresh copy while keeping the old home with most kde related folders shift+deleted except of course those folders you really want to keep like app's or other personal stuff11:37
wizz33it was installed in December from a fresh iso if it exists yes it is waiting for a hour now.11:38
naftilos76see you guys..11:39
BluesKajwizz33, you should relly have either done a clean inbstall of 14.04 or upgraded to 13.10 first and then to 14.04, Upgrading and skipping a version will definitely break your system11:41
rcw2how can i remove an icon from bottom bar11:41
alketrcw2: first unlock widgets11:41
alketthen right click and remove11:41
rcw2i can right click and see 'icon settings' but didn't notice removal option11:41
wizz33it was form a new install done in december11:41
rcw2alket, not locked11:42
alketrcw2: panel settings, then hover on icon11:43
alketit will display to remove the icon11:43
BluesKajwizz33, do you recall the version name?11:43
wizz33no11:43
rcw2alket, no, 1. Icon Settings 2. Panel Options - no removal11:43
rcw213.1011:44
alketPanel Options > Panel Settings11:44
rcw2alket, thanks11:44
BluesKajwizz33, upgrading can take a while. mine took over an hr...depends on your internet connection speed11:45
wizz33i have downloaded it11:46
rcw2BluesKaj, what sort of success have you seen upgrading versions without skipping?11:47
rcw2near 100%?11:47
rcw2not just personally, but in the community11:47
alketi never really trusted upgrading11:48
alketi updated once, didnt like it, it took like 6 hours and everything failed11:48
BluesKajrcw2, none unless it's the next version11:49
BluesKajupgraded last night and it worked out fine11:50
BluesKajaltho as a precaution I use / and /home partitions which can be a saviour11:51
AciD`I wish kde would include a simple tool to snapshot your / partition before upgrading11:53
AciD`with btrfs built-in feature for instance11:53
BluesKajAciD`, snapshot , in what manner</11:53
BluesKaj?11:53
AciD`BluesKaj > the usual use case : 1) snapshot your filesystem 2) upgrade something 3) whoops, it broke everything 4) revert to the last filesystem snapshot11:54
AciD`easy enough :)11:54
AciD`BluesKaj > https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#What_is_a_snapshot.3F11:55
BluesKajAciD`, rnsnapshot11:56
salsero|2pretty easy with btrfs11:56
salsero|2i split home as well from /11:57
AciD`BluesKaj > rnsnapshot does work that way11:57
AciD`*does not11:57
salsero|2but the problem with btrfs is that the fsck is unreliable11:57
AciD`it's just a rsync to make backup, not 'live fs snapshot'11:57
AciD`salsero|2 > are you using a debian-based distrib?11:58
salsero|2kubuntu11:58
AciD`and dpkg isn't too long to execute?11:59
salsero|2under btrfs?11:59
AciD`last time I tride btrfs on debian, there was a _HUGE_ fsync problem where the smallest apt-get upgrade would take approx. 5 hours11:59
AciD`:\11:59
AciD`yep11:59
salsero|2ye, i kinda felt that under btrfs11:59
BluesKajwell, i just do a df -h to make sure / isn't filling up with old dependencies etc , and I stick with ext4 ...stable and reliable, otherwise as longs as everything works I'm happy11:59
salsero|2and went back to ext4 because the fsck wasnt able to fix my file system problems11:59
AciD`ah, so they still haven't fixed that (more than) 4 years old major bug :\12:00
salsero|2not too slow, just slower12:00
salsero|2they say the fsck can actually do worse, so I prefer having my data over features12:01
BluesKaji like being a bit sedgy but using an unproven file system is noit my definition of adventurous :)12:01
BluesKajerr edgy :)12:02
AjTeeso any solutions to to failed upgrade to Kubuntu 14.04?12:04
BluesKajAjTee, failed ...more details pls12:04
salsero|2how is your sources.list12:05
AciD`launching 14.04 upgrade now... /me crosses his fingers12:05
AjTeeAn unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.  This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu12:05
AjTeeCOuntry : Poland12:05
BluesKajAjTee, did you update and upgrade in 13.10 before attempting the upgrade to 14.04?12:08
AjTeekde only12:11
AjTeeto 4.1212:11
BluesKajAjTee, you need to upgrade any packages that need upgrades before upgrading to a new OS version12:12
AjTeeI have up to date all packages12:13
AjTeeapt-get update, apt-get upgrade <= every day done12:14
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BluesKajonly the available upgrades  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade , the dist-upgrade just to be sure12:15
AjTeedone it, nothing help12:17
AjTeeI have no idea how to fix it :/12:17
BluesKajback up your data and do a clean install12:17
AjTeeI have drivers installed and configured and I don't remember how to fix them after installation12:18
salsero|2but are you on 13.10 or 14.04?12:19
AciD`AjTee >  `lsb_release -a`12:21
AjTeekanab@kanab-notebook:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description:    Ubuntu 13.10 Release:        13.10 Codename:       saucy kanab@kanab-notebook:~$12:22
BluesKaj14.04 won't install due to this error. An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade12:22
salsero|2ok then do apt-get upgrade12:22
salsero|2you got some custom packages installed12:22
BluesKajsalsero|2, AciD`^12:22
AjTeehow to remove them?12:23
salsero|2disable all ppas or custom repositories would be a start12:23
salsero|2but then you have to figure out yourself what have you isntalled outside the tree12:23
AciD`BluesKaj > nothing a good 'ol dpkg --force can't solve :)12:23
BluesKajusually ppas are disabled when upgrading12:24
FlameReaper-PCI seem to have a "could not calculate the upgrade" problem12:25
FlameReaper-PCchecked the apt logs it seems an awful amount of packages could not be installed12:25
BluesKajfa12:25
salsero|2hmm12:26
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, looks like we have probs with upgrade calc..hard to figure out what it might be from that error12:27
salsero|2does doing the upgrade via the comand line give more information?12:27
BluesKajthe upgrade won't begin12:27
FlameReaper-PCno, but the /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log shows a very long list12:27
FlameReaper-PCwhen checked with 'grep -i broken' filter12:27
salsero|2can you paste that somewhere12:28
FlameReaper-PCon it12:28
salsero|2my upgrade application crashed in the middle but I was able to continue via the command line12:29
FlameReaper-PChttp://pastebin.com/2yU8D4Et << at least this is what happened with mine12:30
salsero|2i had problems with samba-libs as well12:31
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, did you updade and upgrade your packages before upgrading the OS?12:32
FlameReaper-PCyes12:32
salsero|2do you have unsupported updates & backports activated in sources?12:32
FlameReaper-PCunsupported updates as in?12:33
salsero|2under software sources there's an option for unsupported updates12:33
salsero|2uncheck that and also backports12:33
FlameReaper-PCthanks, will try that after dinner.12:35
salsero|2ok..12:35
MoonUnit`well they still haven't fixed this in 4.13: KDEInit could not launch '/usr/bin/X11/konsole'12:35
AjTeei have disabled them12:38
salsero|2apt-get update12:38
rcw2does running apt-get upgrade before an upgrade impact the upgrade ever?12:44
rcw2before a version upgrade (e.g. 13.10 to 14.04)*12:44
salsero|2impacts positively12:45
BluesKajrcw2, yes some packages can be affected if they have upgrade/dependencies not installed before an OS upgrade is enabled12:47
rcw2why doesn't kubuntu do that automatically before a version upgrade12:48
rcw2is it not critical?12:48
salsero|2did you do it?12:49
BluesKajrcw2, you can set the package manager to autoupdate and upgrade, but it's optional12:49
rcw2salsero|2, i've apt-get upgraded a few days ago, i didn't today before starting the version upgrade, although there were upgrades available.12:50
salsero|2ok, so you're 1404?12:50
rcw2salsero|2, not yet, upgrade has been in progress for over 2 hours12:51
salsero|2ok12:51
salsero|2AjTee: any news?12:51
salsero|2lets hope it doesnt crash on you like it happened to me12:52
rcw2salsero|2, you were coming from 13.04 right?12:53
AjTeenothing, I will be back after my work in2 hours bye bye12:54
salsero|2rcw2: 13.1012:55
rcw2salsero|2, did you apt-get upgrade first or no12:56
salsero|2yes12:56
rcw2is it suggested i keep or remove obsolete packages before rebooting12:57
salsero|2remove12:57
salsero|2ok, it went good for you12:57
rcw2is your system all modded out?12:57
rcw2your 13.1012:58
rcw2was*12:58
salsero|2no, i dont think so12:58
salsero|2out of the repository i just had oracle java12:58
rcw2salsero|2, stable internet?12:58
rcw2no corrupt files12:59
salsero|2all packages downloaded, it crashed during installing samba libs12:59
salsero|2packages are not installed if the md5 doesnt match the fingerprint13:01
salsero|2i think it had to do with some debian bug13:01
rcw2hm13:01
alketwhere do i see the disk usage ?13:02
salsero|2Preparing to unpack .../samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb ...13:02
salsero|2secrets.tdb exists in /var/lib/samba and /var/lib/samba/private, aborting samba-libs preinst13:02
salsero|2rename one of them to allow the install/upgrade to continue13:02
salsero|2http://bugs.debian.org/72647213:02
ubottuDebian bug 726472 in samba "share passwords not working after upgrade from samba3" [Serious,Fixed]13:02
salsero|2alket:  df -h13:03
salsero|2but the installer was not able to handle that and crashed13:03
alketsalsero|2: any graphical way ?13:03
salsero|2gparted13:04
alketisnt there any equivalent of System Monitor ?13:04
systemclientI upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 and now the theme of all KDE applications look like there is no theme at all. Is there a package missing or so?13:07
systemclientI do not have oxygen in the application appearance either13:07
systemclientkde-style-oxygen is installed, though13:08
Human_Greetz, I have one question, i get an error while installing kubuntu 14.04 => Kernel Panic - not syncing13:20
alketouch13:20
caimassive driver failure?13:21
Human_maybe13:21
mokushdid kcolorpicker dissapear from the 14.04 packages?13:21
caiI havne't seen that since a failing raid controller13:21
AciD`mokush > try kcolorchooser13:21
mokushAciD`: thanks!13:22
AciD`yw13:22
AciD`mokush > as a rule of thumb, alt+f2 is very user friendly ; you could find the colorchooser by simply typing 'color' in it13:23
mokushAciD`: yeah, krunner is pretty smart. problem is I didn't have kcolorchooser installed13:24
AciD`:x13:24
AciD`if you have some space on /, just do a safe apt-get install kde-full ;)13:25
FlameReaper-PCapparently the attempt to upgrade even after disabling proposed and backports still fail13:26
mokushAciD`: how much extra gbs does kde-full bring in?13:27
OerHeksHi, why do i have to remove my 2nd hdd SDb to install Kubuntu, it will not see my sda 60 gb ssd, whatever i do in my bios ?13:27
AciD`it depends of what you already have mokush, try it, it will tell you (and you can cancel if you want)13:27
mokushAciD`: i'll try it out, thanks!13:27
OerHeksi'd like to go back to kubuntu but i am not going to open my pc for it, solution please?13:27
OerHeksubuntu is lagging when playing music, never happend before ( from 9.04 to 13.04), so i wanted to test kubuntu, but it won't let me13:29
FlameReaper-PCI cannot upgrade to 14.04 even after disabling proposed, unsupported and backports.13:38
FlameReaper-PCThe log still shows a very long list of packages13:38
FlameReaper-PCthat cannot be installed13:38
caiIt takes longer upgrading than installing lol13:39
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, time to check your mirrors/sources.list13:40
salsero|2cai of course13:40
salsero|2OerHeks: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop13:40
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, one of the devs said to make sure your kubuntu-desktop is installed and up to date before upgrading the OS13:44
FlameReaper-PCas in just the kubuntu-desktop package?13:45
OerHekssalsero|2, i'd like do do fresh install only.13:45
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: form what I saw from your apt output you got lots of ppas13:45
FlameReaper-PCyeah13:45
salsero|2OerHeks: as you wish13:45
salsero|2so that is crippling the upgrade13:46
FlameReaper-PCI have been using Kubuntu since 11.0413:46
salsero|2if you do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop13:46
salsero|2what does that do?13:46
FlameReaper-PCit says already the latest version13:46
OerHekssalsero|2, i won't. i just want to find out this bug is borking someone elses install13:47
BluesKajseems the calc bug affects a few ppl in here already13:48
kubuntu-useranyone here ?13:50
OerHeksi can't get to SDA, BluesKaj  :-(13:50
kubuntu-userhello everybody13:50
OerHekshi kubuntu-user13:50
kubuntu-usercan anyone help me please, i have big troubles with new kubuntu 14.0413:51
OerHeksjust ask your real question and find out :-)13:51
salsero|2hola kubuntu-user, todo bien13:52
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/LUy9jucM << my sources.list13:52
kubuntu-useri tried to check new 14.04 via live-cd. but after a few minutes, screen is black and computer is freezing. reset-button doesnt work, i have to completele shut off  the computer13:53
kubuntu-useri tried this a few times. same effect every time13:53
kubuntu-usercpu is an AMD A8 560013:54
kubuntu-useron my 2nd computer live cd is running normally13:55
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, looks like no probs with the sources... strange that the upgrade can't be calculated.13:56
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: http://pastebin.com/0SKF5y5c << There's also this long list of package conflicts13:58
FlameReaper-PCthat was after my last attempt13:58
caisigh ubuntu has no glfw3 packages but suse and fedora does14:00
FlameReaper-PCI guess the best option right now is to wait a few days for this to be ironed out14:00
FlameReaper-PCit seems I am not the only person having the problem14:00
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, there are some suggestions here that might work for you, http://askubuntu.com/questions/360293/could-not-calculate-the-upgrade-what-happened14:01
salsero|2i didnt get that even though I got other problems14:01
nesciusrcw2 the upgrade to 13.04 ended by having all KDE dependencies unfullfilled14:02
salsero|2nescius: sudo apt-get -f install14:02
AciD`kubuntu servers seems stressed out a bit :x14:04
nesciussalsero|2: thanks but there are no newer versions in the 14.04 than i have from 13.1014:04
nesciusKDE Platform Version 4.11.514:04
salsero|2AciD`: choose a different mirror14:04
kubuntu-useri searched at google, but i didnt find any message with same problem like mine. kubuntu 13.10 is running normally since months, but installation of 14.04 isnt possible :(14:04
salsero|24.13.0 here14:05
nesciussalsero|2: what mirror do you use?14:05
salsero|2nescius: but did the upgrade fo or not?14:05
AciD`salsero|2 > once the do-upgrade has been launched, can you stop it without any side effects ?14:05
salsero|2i use one close to me since I am in spain14:05
salsero|2which might not be the best for you14:05
salsero|2AciD`: unlikely14:06
salsero|2stopping during download wont harm much14:06
AciD`that's what I though :(14:06
nesciussalsero|2: no, it failed so i did upgrade everything in the errors except for the kde stuff14:06
AciD`hm14:06
salsero|2but the sources are already in the new version14:06
nesciusI am waiting for the kde packages to apear in japanese mirrors14:06
nesciusas i am in japan atm14:06
salsero|2mine is;14:07
salsero|2server for spain14:07
salsero|2so the main one in spain14:07
salsero|2guten morgan martinalex14:08
salsero|2nescius: you can try that and see if it works for you14:09
kubuntu-userso any chance for help in here ? :-)14:10
salsero|2kubuntu-user: aint got a clue14:10
kubuntu-useryou speak german ?14:10
salsero|2nein14:11
kubuntu-user:-)14:11
salsero|2just a little14:11
kubuntu-userok14:11
caiAnyone notice steam is buggy with kwin? Minimized it wants to draw itself in the background14:12
caidoens't do that with xfwm and openbox though, hmm14:12
OerHekskubuntu-user, "after a few minutes" = 5 min, like a screensaver kicks in ?14:12
kubuntu-usernope, sometimes after 1 minute, sometime after 3 minutes. and i am moving the mouse permanently, so no screensaver-effect14:13
kubuntu-userat my other pc, live cd is running normally since 30 minutes14:13
kubuntu-useri tried to install 14.04 on the AMD machine, after selecting to install - nothing more happend. screen black, computer freezing14:14
kubuntu-userso no difference between live-cd and installation14:15
caiI'm on an AMD FX-6300 in 3-core mode overclcoked to 4.6GHz and a 7850, runs fine for me, maybe some chipset/apu issue14:15
caiHave you tried nomode?14:15
kubuntu-userwhat is nomode ?14:16
cainomodeset to run at minimal video settings14:16
caialso coudl try running the efi bios in legacy mode14:16
nesciussalsero|2: thanks, i will try that14:18
kubuntu-useri have 14.04 on usb-stick and i tried to boot in efi modus and normal modus, no difference. and i am not a linux expert, i only boot from usb-stick and try to install14:18
kubuntu-user:-)14:18
salsero|2kubuntu-user: efi is where the world is going14:22
salsero|2i migrated my machine to efi recently14:23
FlameReaper-PC"ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'The package 'update-manager-kde' is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist.'" Does this mean anything?14:23
hojjatI upgraded to kubuntu 14.04, It's so slow, I'm gonna kill my self.14:23
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: you can try removing it before the upgrade and then install it again after the upgrade or after the failure14:24
salsero|2if it doesnt remove too many packages behind it14:24
kyfellahey ya'll, I have problems with Kubuntu after it sits overnight, or for a long period of time during the day.  It doesn't seem to be isolated to version.  My screen will have horizontal lines running through it, and I can't get to a command terminal by ctrl, shift, F1 to reboot it.14:25
kyfellathis has been happening through multiple versions of Kubuntu14:25
kyfellaanyone experience the same thing?14:26
FlameReaper-PCso to sum up14:26
caiSounds like corruption14:26
FlameReaper-PCapparently I have the "could not calculate upgrade"14:27
FlameReaper-PClog shows a very long list of packages unable to be upgraded here: http://pastebin.com/0SKF5y5c14:27
FlameReaper-PCmy sources.list: http://pastebin.com/LUy9jucM14:27
caiUpgrading is so slow and messy compared to a fresh install, I just pop in the live usb/cd, rename my user's folder, install over my old install14:28
kubuntu-userwell, so i have to wait. thanks for help. bye14:32
salsero|2cai ye but at least I dont have to reinstall everything14:33
jaldharhello. is kdm broken on trusty?  I upgraded from the last lts and now I can login but my session doesn't seem to be starting.  i.e. I just get a blank screen14:34
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, did you have look at the suggestions in the URL I posted above?14:34
jaldharnothing in .xsession-errors afaict14:34
AjTeehello again :)14:35
AjTeenothing new :/14:35
jaldharugh I have to go.  I will ask again later.14:35
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: Yes, but I can't figure out any plausible solution.14:35
salsero|2what was your problem again?14:35
FlameReaper-PCI don't really want to risk myself on the last one14:36
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AjTeei can't install update to 14.0414:37
kyfellawhere do we paste images to share on here?14:37
BluesKajFlameReaper-PC, apparently removing and reinstalling kubuntu-desktop after the upgrade may solve your issue.14:37
AjTeei am now on 13.1014:37
Guest29710privet!14:37
Guest29710any russians?14:38
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: which upgrade? the do-release-upgrade command?14:38
BluesKajremoving kubuntu-desktop first, then upgrading the OS/ FlameReaper-PC14:38
Guest29710speak rus any? (((14:39
salsero|2AjTee: in a shell do: sudo do-release-upgrade14:39
BluesKaj!ru | Guest2971014:39
ubottuGuest29710: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.14:39
salsero|2Guest28172: no because of crimea14:39
Guest29710thx guys14:40
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: I'll try that, will be back here again later.14:40
AjTeesalseroj, I have done it in terminal nothing new: With do-release-upgrade I am getting this: An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade.  This can be caused by: * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu * Running the current pre-release version of Ubuntu * Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu14:41
BluesKajAjTee, try my suggestion to FlameReaper-PC, it's the same issue14:41
AjTeeyeah but I want to upgrade and I m not fater upgrade so?14:42
salsero|2ah yes, so no new info?14:43
AjTeeno new info, how can I backup repos?14:44
BluesKajAjTee, you can install kubuntu-desktop after upgrading the OS is done.14:44
AjTeebut I have kubuntu-desktop14:44
salsero|2backup repos?14:45
FlameReaper-PCBluesKaj: Looks like doing that was counter-productive14:45
salsero|2more broken packages?14:45
FlameReaper-PCI rolled back to my initial problem with my prior first attempts to upgrade: "Can't install kubuntu-desktop"14:46
FlameReaper-PC... well, that's as an addition to the current problem14:46
BluesKajtry purging it FlameReaper-PC14:46
FlameReaper-PCpurging?14:46
FlameReaper-PCbut really, did anyone look at the log with a long list of packages I am having problems with?14:47
salsero|2i did14:48
FlameReaper-PCto put it short, I guess removing kubuntu-desktop did not help anything...14:49
FlameReaper-PCI would attempt the "Linux Mint upgrading method" but I am just not that sure anymore.14:49
salsero|2the best would be to bring your packages to 13.10 version14:49
BluesKajsudo apt-get purge kubuntu-desktop14:49
salsero|2since they seem ppa14:49
FlameReaper-PCI have the backports PPA, that's for sure14:50
FlameReaper-PCbut I forgot it's current state...14:51
FlameReaper-PCas in enabled or disabled14:51
hojjatDoes anybody know what baloo_file_extr is?14:52
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: https://launchpad.net/ppa-purge14:52
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BluesKajhojjat, baloo is the front end GUI for nepomuk14:55
BluesKajit's new14:55
AciD`BluesKaj > from what I read, nepomuk has been totally ditched, and replaced by baloo14:56
AciD`baloo is not a frontend to nepomuk14:56
hojjatI think It's making my machine very busy, After upgrading my machine is very slow14:56
hojjatIt's using cpu and disk and I'm not happy.14:56
AciD`hojjat > baloo is the new (and quicker) file indexer (http://community.kde.org/Baloo)14:57
AciD`it won't last long14:57
hojjattnx14:57
BluesKajAciD`, the nepomuk cleaner option is till installed , so i guess that role is all thsat's left of it.14:57
BluesKajstill*14:57
BluesKajnever used it myself14:58
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: try that, that should remove ppa packages14:58
rberg_anybody know if OTR is possible with quassel? I know blowfish is in but most people I know use OTR14:59
hojjatbaloo doesn't have any option to pause or stop it, nepomuk had. I think the best option for me is to be patient.14:59
BluesKajhojjat, running sudo updatedb can speed things up if you run it periodically15:01
FlameReaper-PCOTR?15:05
OerHeksoff the record messaging15:06
BluesKajnepomuk used to have a role in 14.04 up until a few weeks ago , looks like it's mostly replaced by baloo as AciD` posted...probly during the last few package upgrades15:08
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: did you see that ppa purge thing?15:09
FlameReaper-PCsalsero|2: already doing it15:09
salsero|2k15:09
FlameReaper-PCI'll attempt another do-release-upgrade after this15:09
salsero|2ye, thats the next step15:09
FlameReaper-PCthankfully the machine I am using Kubuntu on is more or less a production machine, I guess with the LTS I'll try to make it stick until the next one15:11
FlameReaper-PCthe next LTS that is15:11
AciD`BluesKaj > do you know if you can make updatedb useful again for users using encrypted partitions ? ie. is it possible to have an 'updatedb' only for the current user home directory?15:11
rberg_yeah OTR does encryption over irc15:14
BluesKajAciD`, you can spefify which paths/dirs to updatedb afaik15:15
BluesKajerr specify15:15
AciD`BluesKaj > found the answer here : http://askubuntu.com/questions/20821/using-locate-on-an-encrypted-partition15:18
AciD`good to know :)15:18
BluesKajyup15:19
BluesKajaltho being a home user I don't bother encrypting any files except my passwords file etc for various sites and uses15:20
salsero|2same as me15:21
salsero|2also used lvm in the past and noticed some degradation of disk performance so I dont use it anymore either except servers15:22
AciD`encryption is a must-have for laptop thou15:22
AciD`*though15:22
salsero|2if you travel much15:23
salsero|2and if you have sensitive data15:23
salsero|2then yes15:23
rberg_ohh I had really bad performance with ecryptfs.. dmcrypt works much better imho15:23
BluesKajwell , I'm retired , and we travel for pleasure not business15:24
AciD`using a 512GB ssd, performance degradation with ecryptfs is not noticeable15:24
salsero|2that should have been expensive..15:25
rberg_I also had a ssd. fwiw most of my performance problems were because I use maildir on a huge mail box15:25
salsero|2we had some 400GB ssd in our storages and each costed like Eur 500015:25
hojjatAciD: I've never encrypted my home partition. I'm afraid that it wont work with live version of ubuntu, I mean if I need to repair or change my OS, I'm afraid it wont work. Is encrypting home partition safe?15:26
hojjatAciD`: is it?15:27
AciD`hojjat > with encryption, you gain security over easiness of use15:27
AciD`so yes it is for me (using encrypted home for a bit more than 4 years now)15:27
BluesKajok , stuff to do for a while... BBL15:28
AciD`I guess encrypted home pushed me to do backup regularly15:28
hojjatyeah, sure, so I assume that it is possible to access an encrypted partition using live os?15:29
AciD`because if you have any problem (wrong update, harddisk crashes your keys, etc.), say goodbye to your data15:29
AciD`yes it is15:29
rcw2is there a website with all fonts for kubuntu  for download15:29
AciD`I had to do it once15:29
AciD`it was a PITA15:29
AciD`but doable15:29
hojjatwhat do you mean "encrypted home pushed me to do backup regularly"?15:29
salsero|2nevermind, you should backup regularly regardless of encrytion :)15:30
AciD`I meant that if you somehow lose you keys for decrypting your data15:30
hojjatwow...15:30
AciD`the only solution you have is either cry or ask the NSA to send you one of their backup.15:30
AciD`hojjat > what salsero|2 said15:30
AciD`it reminds me I should do one now :)15:31
hojjat:) that's not worth it.15:31
AciD`<- backintime powered15:31
hojjatI mean why would I encrypt? and take that risk?15:31
hojjatI try to encrypt my passwords. I think that's enough15:31
hojjatright?15:31
AciD`hojjat > it's really only your choice :)15:32
salsero|2might be for you15:32
salsero|2if you have classified data in your laptop15:32
salsero|2if I happen to find, I will have no problem in accessing your data15:32
salsero|2i mean find your laptop15:32
AciD`as an entrepreneur, I _really_ don't want to got all my enterprise files posted on the web if I lose or get my laptop stolen15:32
AciD`*have15:32
salsero|2live cd, mount, and thats it15:33
AciD`that and the picture of your family or anything else you wouldn't want anybody too see15:33
salsero|2with encryption15:33
AciD`yes, it's that simple15:33
salsero|2different story15:33
hojjatI use truecrypt for my family pictures and "OTHER STUFF!!"15:35
salsero|2and specially if you have ssh private keys15:35
AciD`ah yes, that also15:37
AciD`better be safe than sorry15:37
AciD`encrypt everything, and keep an unencrypted version of your data on an external device (in a safe)15:37
hojjatkeeping an unencrypted version is not safe, even in a safe!15:38
hojjatBut I get your point15:39
AciD`hojjat > you are right, real man only remember their private key.15:39
AciD`*men15:40
hojjat:))15:40
hojjatOk, can I encrypt my home partition right now?15:40
hojjatI mean while I'm using it?15:40
salsero|2i dont see a need to encrypt / except /etc15:42
hojjatI think ssh key is stored in home partition, right?15:43
salsero|2right15:43
salsero|2.ssh15:43
hojjatand that's sensitive data, right?15:44
salsero|2correct15:44
hojjatso encrypting home partition is legit.15:45
salsero|2بله15:46
hojjatAciD`: tnx man.15:46
AciD`hojjat > regarding your previous question, I would recommend 1) backup your dato 2) re-backup your data 3) re-re-backup your data 4) read https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ecryptfs.html and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome and http://www.howtogeek.com/116297/how-to-recover-an-encrypted-home-directory-on-ubuntu/ 5) proceed15:49
AciD`(the last link saved me hours)15:49
AciD`unpacking the 14.04 update now..15:50
* AciD` crosses his fingers again15:50
salsero|2i hope you get better luck15:51
hojjatAciD`: I upgraded to 14.04 it took me hours to download and hours to unpack and install, I'm using it right now, but it's really really slow, I'm hoping "baloo" be the reason and it gets faster in future15:52
AciD`today I fixed no less that 3 bugs I created many weeks ago, so I'm in a good mood to break my system :)15:52
hojjatAciD`: good luck mate15:54
AciD`hojjat > I changed the mirror as salsero|2 suggested, it dropped from 18h to 30 min, then I'm not bragging but, the update is close to be finished now (ssd powered)15:54
AciD`:)15:54
hojjatAciD`: Well, I'm not bragging bu I'm SATA powered with an old dualcore amd cpu and a very slow internet connection. YEAH, not bragging though :))15:57
hojjatbut*15:57
rberg_best practice would have you set a password you your private ssh key.. so even if its lost someone will still need to bruteforce it15:58
AciD`hojjat > you could have used an ide port.15:58
hojjatAciD`: How did you changed the mirror?16:00
salsero|2software sources16:01
AciD`hojjat > I stopped the update (killing the python script)16:01
AciD`then edited by hand /etc/apt/source.list16:02
AciD`then agud&&agdu16:02
AciD`err16:02
salsero|2inside software sources you can select your best server depending on your location16:02
AciD`alias agud="apt-get update" && alias agdu="apt-get dist-upgrade"16:02
AciD`salsero|2 > good to know :)16:03
AciD`I always use old school stuff :(16:03
AciD`I remember when few years ago I was in a LUG and noticed how somebody just plugged his ethernet cable to get a working network !16:03
AciD`it was magic16:03
AciD`then I discovered I shouldn't have copy pasted my /etc/networks file between installations...16:04
AciD`ah, it was /etc/network/interfaces...16:05
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: any news?16:08
FlameReaper-PCstill downgrading.16:08
FlameReaper-PCsalsero|2: in the middle of downgrading.16:08
hojjatAciD`: I hear you brother.16:08
salsero|2ok FlameReaper-PC let me know how it goes, so I can learn from what you are experiencing16:10
keyvinI'm having a weird issue with pidgin16:13
salsero|2isnt that gnomish?16:13
keyvinthe buddy list never shows up on the desktop, and it dissapears from the taskbar16:13
keyvinno, empathy is gnomish16:13
keyvinI was wondering if anyone was using it16:13
keyvinworks fine on fluxbox but not in kde16:14
keyvinI still get desktop notifications and stuff16:14
keyvinnot sure what is going on16:14
keyvinthis is new with 14.0416:14
keyvinworked fine in 13.1016:15
ZeroBeholderJust booted up my lenovo s10-3 (64bit, intel 945 graphics) with 14.04-- no launcher bar or context menus with the left mouse button...16:19
ZeroBeholderIf I pull the hd and boot elsewhere, everything is fine.16:20
ZeroBeholder(correction 64-bit atom n455, intel gma 3150)16:22
ZeroBeholderNow that I am reading about thr right graphics chipset, googling is going better. That is what I get for trusting bad video spec information.16:24
hayshaha i think i just installed oldkubuntu yesterday. any way to upgrade16:30
salsero|2sudo do-release-upgrade16:30
haysafter a sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get upgrade    right?16:32
salsero|2ye16:34
Programmer_I am trying to upgrade to 14.04 but i keep getting caught in the grub install. It wont install and keep selecting do not continue, yet is wont work...help16:35
ZeroBeholdersudo apt-get dist-upgrade16:36
Programmer_im still upgrading to 14.04 i cant do that...16:36
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: you may have to manually edit your grub config files16:37
* salsero|2 ouch16:37
Programmer_yeah i know, but it wont exit out of the grub update16:37
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: Live CD...16:37
Programmer_im in the middle of 14.04 upgrade...should i back out of that? wouldnt it mess up my pc?16:38
ZeroBeholdersalsero|2: the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade was for you16:38
Programmer_i used do-release-upgrade16:38
salsero|2for me?16:39
Programmer_every time i select no, it says Installing for i386-pc platform.16:39
Programmer_then goes back to the grub install menu16:39
Programmer_ Do you want to continue anyway? If you do, your computer may not start up properly.16:39
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: I've never used that particular method. Are you sure it is grub install that is happening?16:40
Programmer_well upgrade16:40
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AciD`ok so far the upgrade seems to have worked well16:42
AciD`let's reboot to find out !16:42
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: you may need to take some photos and post the imgur links.16:42
Programmer_i got it to go through16:42
Programmer_ill have to manually upgrade it16:42
salsero|2AciD`: if you're not back, does that mean it broke?16:42
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: Good luck.16:43
AciD`you won't see anything salsero|2, I'm using a bouncer ;)16:43
Programmer_will i not be able to?16:43
ZeroBeholderProgrammer_: It just sounds like you are having to do more than most people to get it spinning right. I just mean I hope that it all works out for you.16:44
Programmer_oh ok16:44
AciD`everything seems fine :)16:45
salsero|2sweet16:45
AciD`it's the 2nd time in 9 years an *ubuntu upgrade goes well for me, that's cool :)16:48
salsero|2never had any major problems, well nothing that couldnt be fixed via comand line16:48
salsero|2well, i believe it could cause some problems to newbies16:48
salsero|2FlameReaper-PC: fixed it?16:51
FlameReaper-PCnot quite there yet16:51
salsero|2how come16:53
salsero|2much to downgrade?16:53
yahyaahas anyone figured out how to get the gmic plugin for gimp to work on kubuntu 14.04lts?16:56
Shaan7Whatever is wrong with Chromium in Kubuntu 14.04? It looks, um, weird http://i.imgur.com/eLmeVPE.png16:56
AciD`oh my16:56
AciD`for the first time16:56
AciD`desktop search is working SO WELL16:57
FlameReaper-PCsalsero|2: no luck16:57
AciD`:O16:57
FlameReaper-PCstill the same problem16:57
FlameReaper-PCfor whatever reason16:57
salsero|2but less packages?16:57
* AciD` kisses all the dev/tester who made this possible :))))16:57
FlameReaper-PCthey still have problems with the same packages.16:57
salsero|2thats seems almost impossible16:57
salsero|2since you downgraded16:58
FlameReaper-PCcuriously enough16:58
salsero|2disable the ppas16:58
salsero|2and do sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop16:58
salsero|2if it changes anything16:59
AciD`Shaan7 > in options, click 'use gtk theme'16:59
FlameReaper-PCwouldn't the ppa's be automatically disabled by the time do-release-upgrade happens?16:59
salsero|2ye16:59
salsero|2but..16:59
FlameReaper-PCnow this is getting really tricky17:00
FlameReaper-PCbecause I never had to do the ppa disabling prior before17:00
FlameReaper-PCregardless of the situation17:00
Shaan7AciD`: in Chrome? or somewhere in KDE System Settings?17:00
FlameReaper-PCI've been upgrading the system since 11.0417:00
Shaan7*chromium17:00
AciD`Shaan7 > in chromium17:00
salsero|2you can rename the directory to somethign elsejust to try17:00
Shaan7AciD`: hmm let me try, even though I can't see anything, clicking on everything should work :P17:03
AciD`or not17:03
Shaan7hmm i navigated to settings and clicked on "use gtk+ theme", it kinda changed colors but still missing text etc :(17:05
AciD`Shaan7 > http://i.imgur.com/psOFmpl.png17:06
AciD`ah, ok17:06
AciD`weird17:06
AciD`have you tried closing/restarting it?17:06
MoonUnit`Shaan7, did you try the chrome package from google?17:06
Shaan7yep17:06
Shaan7MoonUnit`: nope, will do that if nothing else works17:07
Shaan7AciD`: did what I described initially happen to you as well?17:07
AciD`Shaan7 > only the weird pure white on white menu17:07
Shaan7hm17:07
Exagone313Shaan7: else you can stay with firefox17:07
Shaan7Exagone313: yeah even with Google letting you sign in to multiple accounts, I use different browsers for personal gmail and office's google apps account17:08
Exagone313with firefox you can have multiple profiles17:08
Exagone313and start them in the same time (with specific command)17:09
maqf17:10
maqhello17:10
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maqcan any boady answer me17:11
Exagone313to ?17:12
Exagone313hello17:12
mefisto_no one knows the answer :)17:13
Programmer_ZeroBeholder, https://imgur.com/ktGRAXY17:17
Programmer_http://pastebin.com/b22kyYKw17:26
daniel__Hello! After upgrading to 14.04 LTS, my Kubuntu became VERY slow. I don't have a slow computer, and debian works quite fast, but in Kubuntu, windows move very slow, the start button takes few seconds before it opens, and when I type something inside KDE, it also takes few seconds until I can see the typed data. Sometimes keys don't work, and I have to do most of the tasks in the terminal. I disabled most of the desktop effects, but this didn't change anythi17:40
daniel__I removed the .kde folder, and restarted, but the speed didn't improve a lot17:41
Programmer_http://pastebin.com/Za6YJNkc17:41
borkohi17:44
borkois someone having trouble with internet speed when you download packages from ubuntu17:45
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Programmer_borko, im having issues upgrading to 14.0417:48
borkoi did a clean install17:49
borkoi took some for the installer to finish17:49
borkonow whenever i try to install something its real slow17:50
borkomaybe the ubuntu servers are crowded17:50
daniel__So nobody had simmilar issues on latest LTS?18:04
AjTeehi18:29
AjTeeinstalled finally Kubuntu 14.0418:29
* bprompt throws confetti at AjTee 18:30
AjTee :)18:30
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Programmer_(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:10959): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory18:51
tamranhowdy all, anyone experiencing issues with dolphin loading extremely slowly18:54
tamranafter the upgrade18:54
tamranto 14.04 from 14.1018:54
tamranit seems to be related to a dbus call of some kind18:55
Programmer_14.10 isnt out18:56
tamranerrr, sorry from 13.1018:56
Programmer_im currently doing the upgrade18:57
Programmer_im having an issue18:57
Programmer_(gtk-update-icon-cache-3.0:10959): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory18:57
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schmitzer44hello, I just installed Kubuntu 14.04 and I am getting error messages from muon-discover telling me about a "missing authorization". Does anyone what I am doing wrong?19:44
valorielook down in your taskbar19:44
valorieis there a auth window hiding behind something?19:44
valoriewaiting for your passwd19:44
schmitzer44valorie: no19:48
schmitzer44valorie: is there some low-level tool besides apt from the console, that I can use to manage my package installtions?19:48
rberg_low level? that would be dpkg19:49
schmitzer44valorie: I don't need a "nice user interface", I would rather like to have a simple GUI for package management19:49
rberg_aptitute then19:49
valorieperhaps you prefer muon package manager?19:49
valorietbh, that's what I use + apt19:49
valoriediscover is pretty...19:50
schmitzer44rberg_: that is muon/trusty?19:51
alketschmitzer44: maybe synaptics19:52
rberg_I think I mis-understood the question.. those are both cli tools.. not pretty at all19:52
schmitzer44rberg_: it turned out muon/trusty is the tool I was searching for (/usr/bin/muon) which is the muon package manager19:53
schmitzer44thanks19:54
schmitzer44muon package-manager seems to work just fine, muon-discover is the one that is always giving me error messages about missing authorization19:55
ghostcubehi folks. could it be that the trashcan cant be emtptied20:04
ghostcube-t20:04
desonicΚαλησπέρα! Υπάρχει κάποιος που να αναβάθμισε σε 14.04 και να έπαθε ζημιά με Akonadi?20:24
desonicΈχω χάσει το kmail ολόκληρο παιδιά. Και χρησιμοποιώ αυτόν το PC  στη δουλειά. Πάνω που είπα μετά από δυο χρόνια20:24
desonicδοκιμών ότι τελείωσαν για μένα πια τα Windows, σήμερα με βρήκε μεγάλη κατραπακιά.20:24
desonicΈχει κανείς κάποια λύση?20:24
OerHeks!gr20:26
ubottu#ubuntu-gr και #kubuntu-gr για Έλληνες χρηστές  /  #ubuntu-gr kai #kubuntu-gr gia Ellhnes xrhstes20:26
alket!al20:27
alket!rs20:28
ubottuMolimo udjite u #ubuntu-rs za pomoc u vezi sa Ubuntuom na srpskom jeziku.20:28
desonicThanks! "Πετάγομαι" να δω α έχει κάτι εκεί. Εδώ δεν αντιμετώπισε κανείς κάτι παρόμοιο ε?20:29
bprompt!ru | desonic20:39
ubottudesonic: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke.20:39
grambhi everyone!20:46
grambi installed trusty and cant use by gpg encrypted wallet anymore? was the gnupg backend removed in kde4.13 or kubuntu trusty?20:46
OpenArchBuntuI'm running Kubuntu 14.04 Beta 220:59
OpenArchBuntuHow do I upgrade from it?20:59
lordievaderOpenArchBuntu: sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:00
OpenArchBuntulordievader: Thanks21:00
desonicHi guys! I have upgraded to 14.04 but I hace a crucial issue with migration of kMail . Akonadi server doesn't start. Any idea how to solve this?21:07
desonicHi guys! I have upgraded to 14.04 but I have a crucial issue with migration of kMail . Akonadi server doesn't start. Any idea how to solve this?21:08
lordievader!patience | desonic21:09
ubottudesonic: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com/ http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ or http://www.kubuntuforums.net/ while you wait.21:09
desonicThanks for your prompt reply and advise. I was trying to fix a misstyped word (grammar error) and my query poped up twice.21:11
valoriedesonic: you can ask in #kde-pim too21:12
valorieat least i think that's the chan21:12
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desonicThanks volorie :)  I will do so.21:13
valorieoops, either #kontact or #akonadi21:13
desonicAll kmail functions use akonadi service. kmail is usless without akonadi server. I tryed to start it from terminal but no use21:16
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DukeFHello All21:16
valoriedesonic: I hope you get the help you need21:18
valorieI used to love kmail, then it stopped working for me, and i've not gone back to "real" email yet21:18
desonicI do hope so. I use this PC for work. My entire address book (clients data) and professional communication is in kmail. And I'm locked out! It is so frustrating!21:20
desonicThanks for your concern valorie. Very kind of you :)21:22
valoriethe pim people are great21:22
valorieit's just a matter of actually talking to someone21:23
valorieunfortunately, europe is going to bed21:23
valorieright now21:23
desonicBud luck for me.21:24
valoriethere is a list too21:28
valoriesec and I'll rustle up the link21:28
valoriehttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-pim <-- desonic21:29
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grambregardind my previous questions, it seems that the gnupg backend for kwallet was disabled in the kubuntu 14.04 packages. i build the kwalletd 4.13 from sources and the gnupg backend was back21:32
grambdoes anyone know, why the gnupg backend was removed for kubuntu 14.04? can i expect it to return at some point?21:32
artaohey all! o/21:33
artaoI just read that Ubuntu 14.04 LTS is released .... I'm still running Kubuntu 12.04+ (plus inasmuch as I'm using numerous PPAs) .... so can I just upgrade fully and still have a stable OS? or do I need to totally re-install?21:34
artaoplz ping my nick if responding, as I'll be over in #smc =]21:35
valoriegramb: it wasn't working, and we didn't want to release broken software21:35
valorieif it works for you from sources, great!21:36
alketartao: im not sure but i think all the ppas and its software will be removed21:37
artaoouch! that'd be no good21:37
valorieartao: ppas are removed in upgrades, but you can just keep track of what you have, and add back what you need21:38
valoriesome of those ppas will no longer be needed anyway21:38
artaowell it's ... rather a lot21:38
valorielike what in particular?21:38
artaohmm21:38
artaooh sheesh! uh .... krita, a couple GIMP things, numerous pieces of astronomy software, various graphics software packages .. uhhhhhh21:39
phoenixzJust a quick test: Can anybody see my messages? Its almost as if my messages are not sent...21:39
artaoi don't eeven remember everything21:39
artaophoenixz yes21:39
valoriephoenixz: I see ya21:39
phoenixzthanks!21:39
valorieartao: there will be a list of what is being removed21:39
valoriecopy/paste it21:39
artaovalorie I see21:39
grambvalorie: thx for the answer21:40
valoriekrita will just be upgraded21:40
artaoi've read before tho that a full upgrade causes an unstable OS21:40
valoriethat doesn't need a ppa21:40
valorienot for me, but some prefer a fresh install21:40
artaoand if i need to fully re-install I prolly would just switch over to Debian so i get a true rolling releasee21:40
valorieI upgraded to the beta, and had a great upgrade experience21:40
artaothe command is "sudo apt-get upgrade all" .... right?21:41
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valorie`sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade`21:42
valorieyou need to update and upgrade what you have before jumping to 14.0421:42
artaodist-upgrade ... right21:42
alketartao: rolling release sounds interesting but it isn't , not with the list of software that you use21:42
artaowasn't aware of release-upgrade21:42
valorieyou can just paste that one line and all will be done21:42
artaoalket ... how so?21:43
alketit wont be as stable21:43
artaohmm ... perhaps i'll just stick with 12.04+ for now ... it kinda makes me nervous21:43
alketthings break time to time21:43
artaoLOLyeah ... i know that certainly21:44
alketartao: yeah, its supported until 201721:44
artaommk .... ... i'm curious if sticking with 12.04  will break some of my software tho21:45
valorie14.04 is awesome21:45
valorieit will, imo21:45
valorielife moves on, and so does software21:45
artaoscheiss21:45
artaommk. thx21:45
valorieartao: if you have room, you could always do a fresh install in a new partition21:46
valorieand check it out21:46
alketi never liked the ppa's though21:46
artaoi'd hafta completely re-partition .. that scares me even more21:46
artaoalket ... numerous things i need are only available via PPA21:47
valorieI can't imagine using 2 year-old software21:47
valoriebut I don't run a server, or work for clients, etc.21:47
artaoor compiling ... but I can only really do the simple stuff "make instalkl" LOL21:47
alketi prefer to compile than using ppas21:47
alketthere is this game , megaglest which is very outdated in repos, i had to compile the new version21:48
artaodependency issues often inhibit my compiling abilities21:48
artaoanyhow. thx ... i'll give this all deep consideration21:48
artao=]21:48
alketartao: before you do anythign you should probably clonezilla it first21:49
alketi just found it yesterday and its really useful21:50
artaoas in "ghost" my whole OS?21:50
valorieartao: you can always write a liveUSB too, but you can't really test software that way21:50
valoriemore of a hardware test imo21:50
artaoi don't have enuf space to "clonezilla" my OS :/21:53
artaoif i could burn blu-ray, no problem :P21:53
artaobut I don't wanna waste that many DVDs21:53
artaooh well21:53
artaoany of y'all into astronomy?21:55
artaoalso, anyone wanna write me a driver for my scanner? :P LOL21:55
artaoperfectly good scanner, but I hafta use XP to use it :(21:56
artaoyes, that's win xp21:56
bpromptartao:     I did install 14.04, last week, and a package didn't quite get there, other than that..... from kde 4.08 to kde 4.12.9  I didn't see much difference really, then again, I use lxde as WM21:56
valorieartao: I love looking at the sky, but don't use astronomy software21:56
valoriequite a few of my friends develop kstars though21:56
bpromptartao:    12.04 runs smooth for me21:56
artaokstars is okay ... but stellarium is way better21:57
artaovalorie ... didja watch the eclipse the other day?21:57
alketartao: i dont like astronomy since because its very big and makes me wonder :p21:57
valorietotally cloudy here21:57
valorie:(21:57
* bprompt uses nekkid eye to see the stars21:57
artaoalket LOL21:58
valoriethe moon earlier in the evening was completely awesome21:58
valorieand then the clouds rolled in21:58
valorietypical Seattle spring21:58
artaowell, here's my best pic of it :: https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/p720x720/10269049_781690411855216_2586906936449592283_o.jpg21:58
artaotaken thru my 6" newtonian reflector21:58
valoriethat's wonderful21:58
artao=]21:59
valorieyou should join #kstar just to show that off21:59
artaonone of my full eclpse photos turned out tho21:59
alketI just tried Kstars, got this error instead: Python process that updates supernova information failed with error code 121:59
valorieI mean #kstars21:59
artaoalket .. check out stellarium21:59
artaoand don't worry about supernova data :P22:00
artaohmm .. karaoke tonite ... hmmmmmmm22:00
artaoi've even still got my old dual-Pentium 200 running Mandrake 9 LOL22:01
valoriealket: please file a bug22:01
artaonot that I ever have that box turned on >.>22:01
valorieI ran Mandrake as my first linux!22:01
valorienot sure which versions though22:01
artao"Mandrake .. Have you ever seen a commie drink a glass of water? Vodka, that's what they drink isn't it? Always vodka, never water."22:02
artaoprize to anyone who knows the quote22:02
* valorie goes to get coffee (no vodka!)22:03
artaoi'm boiling more water for MOAR COFFEEEEEEE22:03
artaowakin up and watchin Louis C.K. here22:04
artaoanyhow, l8rz y'all22:09
AciD`weird22:23
AciD`on 4.13, phpstorm menu opens outside the windows (on top of it). I use the 'no border' setting for that app.22:24
AciD`even with a border, the menu is wrong :(22:26
valoriephpstorm is an application?22:30
valorieoh, I see you called it an app22:31
valoriehmmm22:31
valorie!info phpstorm22:31
ubottuPackage phpstorm does not exist in trusty22:31
valorie!info phpstorm saucy22:32
ubottuPackage phpstorm does not exist in saucy22:32
valorielooks like we don't package that22:32
alketits not open source22:36
alketdoes anyone know what happened to urbanterror.info , is it still alive ? or just site down.22:38
valoriesorry, can't help you with that AciD`22:38
AciD`thanks for trying valorie22:39
valorieIt's not just you! http://urbanterror.info looks down from here.22:39
valoriewww.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/urbanterror.info22:39
AciD`I think I managed to found what was wrong ; I recently connected a second monitor, and had to put it 'top-of' my first one22:39
valoriemight be recovering from heartbleed, alket22:40
AciD`somehow neither of the 2 screens were set as 'main screen'22:40
valorieah, glad you found your answer, AciD`22:40
AciD`since I set my 'main' screen to be my 'main' screen, the menu are ok :)22:40
valoriekscreen is pretty good now22:40
alketthanks valorie22:43
AciD`valorie > kscreen is good for remembering config, but it just does not want to save some sometimes, without any error/warning message22:45
AciD`I had to use xrandr cmdline to save my settings at one point :x22:45
valorieAciD`: please file a bug about that22:46
valorieit should always save your selections22:46
keithzgHmm, getting random, sporadic key repeat issuessss....22:46
keithzgssssssssssssiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnncceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee                     ttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttttthhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhe upgrade to 14.04.22:46
keithzg...none of the above was intentional :(22:47
AciD`valorie > for instance, the star are greyed out everywhere22:47
AciD`but when I use `xrandr` I can see 'primary' marked next to one of my screen22:47
AciD`(the stars on the screens in kscreen)22:48
valorieinteresting22:48
keithzgSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrriously this is driving me crazy :(22:50
valoriewoah keithzg22:52
bpromptahemm22:53
valorieAciD`: i would file the bug in bugs.kde.org, because I don't think it's a packaging issue22:53
bpromptwasdat?    someone has a stuck key or something22:53
valoriekeithzg: said it was since upgrade to 14.0422:53
valorieI've not seen any other reports of this22:53
keithzgNo stuck keys, just upgraded to 14.04 and suddenly key repeat is sporadically going crazy22:53
keithzgvery  strraaannggggeeeee........22:54
keithzgarghh22:54
AciD`keithzg > have you checked your keyboard settings22:54
keithzgAciD`: Well, sure, it all looks fine (delay: 660 ms, Rate: 25.00 repeats/s) . . . but the problem is sporadic bursts of *extremely* quick repeats.22:55
keithzgThe text cursor also speeds up when it happens.22:56
AciD`any weird cpu usage when this happens?22:57
keithzgHuh, it seems to be following an accelerating curve.22:57
keithzgWell, I have no idea what baloo_file_extr is, and it and plasma-desktop keep popping up in low-to-mid cpu usage, but other than that all looks fine from top.22:58
AciD`keithzg > baloo is the new nepomuk, only 1000000 times better22:59
keithzgAh22:59
keithzgHmm. Well, it does seem to be munching away, but is that really something one'd expect to affect key repeat in a sine-curve-like fashion?23:00
keithzgOkay, not sine curve, it seems to slowly slope up and then, from the height of the speed, drop back down again to normal speed instantly.23:03
AciD`keithzg > usb keyboard ?23:06
AciD`try another port23:06
AciD`then try another keyboard23:06
keithzgWell, it was working before the upgrade, and but I guess I could try that.23:06
keithzgI just noticed that in Chrome, the little spinning half-circles are *also* speeding up and suddenly slowiinnnnnnng down in time with this, too.23:07
AciD`keithzg > have you rebooted since the upgrade?23:09
keithzgAciD`: Nope, might as well try, brb23:10
AciD`50€ everything's fine on keithzg computer when he logs back :)23:10
keithzgWell, so far so good...23:16
AciD`[01:10:52] <AciD`> 50€ everything's fine on keithzg computer when he logs back :)23:17
AciD`;)23:17
keithzgHeh23:17
AciD`I accept bitcoins too ;)23:17
keithzgStill baffled by what it could've been, though.23:18
AciD`keithzg > perhaps you could report the problem, and the workaround ?23:18
AciD`for others23:19
keithzgHuh, I went to report the bug (little that I know), it directed me first to the Reporting Bugs wiki page, and noticing it doesn't yet link to the Trusty release notes I intended to add that.23:24
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keithzgBut trying to edit ( https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs?action=edit&editor=text ) and it gives an Apache Internal Server Error page instead.23:24
keithzgWorks now, wonder if the server was just briefly overloaded.23:31
keithzgwhoa, hey, since when is Firefox my default browser? (ubuntu-bug just opened it; does it not respect KDE's settings and pull from Unity/GNOME instead?)23:32
naftilos76has anybody had a smooth upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04?23:37
keithzgOther than the weird speed issue before my second reboot, and me not checking which packages it wanted to uninstall (seriously, removing lancelot, yakuake, muon and weather backgrounds? Not cool) it's been smooth so far.23:38
code_chimpNot me, my Chromium is screwd up now - it throws many gtk errors on keypress events23:40
keithzgHmm I heard Chromium was expected to be in a somewhat questionable state unfortunately.23:40
code_chimpIt had the same effect on chrome-unstable - but restoring chrome-stable seemed to fix it23:41
naftilos76it seems that a fresh install is the way to go23:42
keithzgHmm, Muon isn't showing all my packages now.23:44
mefisto_is there a way to search for things currently installed from packages containing "kxstudio" ?23:45
AciD`keithzg > yakuake hasn't been removed on my end23:46
code_chimpdpkg --get-selections | grep kxstudio ?23:46
bpromptmefisto_:    you could try   apt-cache pkgnames | grep kxstudio23:46
mefisto_thanks code_chimp and bprompt23:46
bpromptmefisto_:    I think dpkg -L gives you also the list too23:47
AciD`or you could do : dpkg -S `which kxstudio`23:48
bpromptmefisto_:     you could also just install  Synaptics, is better than Muon IMO23:48
bpromptmefisto_:   and shows what's installed, files and all, and has filters23:48
AciD`synaptics is gtk :(23:48
bpromptAciD`: .... yes, and works better than Muon IMO23:49
keithzgAciD`: Oh, I'm far from surprised that it wasn't everyone, WAY too much was uninstalled (including Rekonq) for it to be a general problem, someone woulda noticed heh.23:49
keithzgWell, I definitely like Muon more than Synaptic these days...which makes me that much sadder that mine seems to be broken after the upgrade. I mean sure, I use apt-get and aptitude most of the time anyways, but still.23:49
AciD`bprompt > you do know that muon comes with different flavor, and one is _very_ close to synaptics23:50
code_chimpWeird, my Rekonq is still installed23:50
mefisto_kxstudio ppa broke my shiny new 14.04 by the way23:51
bpromptkeithzg:     well, I do have Muon, but Synaptics does much more, better searching and package listing, can be very fine-grained, like say in this last case, in Synaptics you simply go to "installed" section and type in "kxstudio" and will show everything filtered through23:51
keithzgbprompt: Yeah . . . just like Muon!23:51
bpromptAciD`:      ahemm... .. well. I only have the default flavor I gather23:52
bpromptkeithzg:     well... not quite, I get more of the listing from Synaptics than I get from Muon23:52
bpromptkeithzg:    and as you said, some packages just don't show in Muon, and I can pick them up in Synaptics23:53
keithzgbprompt: My problem is only since the upgrade, and seems to be it failing to update its cache. Don't take the bug I'm experiencing as a standard state for Muon!23:53
AciD`bprompt > it should look like that : http://imgur.com/WeS9lO023:53
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bpromptAciD`:     well, mine doesn't look like that, btw I had the issue from the older package manager... what was the name...    python-based something23:55
AciD`kpackagekit?23:56
bpromptyeap23:56
keithzgbprompt: To follow up on what AciD` is saying, this is what Muon Package Manager looks like when filtering by installed and looking for something specific: http://picpaste.com/muon_all_installed_packages_plasma.png23:56
keithzgMuon Package Manager isn't installed by default these days AFAIK. But it's deliberately a direct, Qt/KDE-based replacement for Synaptic.23:56
bpromptkeithzg:    well, mine, 12.04, doesn't look like that23:58
bpromptand I don't recall if on 14.04 it was  either..23:58
keithzgbprompt: Again, you probably aren't using Muon Package Manager.23:58
keithzgYou're probably using one of the other variants within the Muon suite.23:58
* bprompt checks about23:58
bpromptohhh right... this is the software center =|23:59
keithzgheh I outright uninstalled that one23:59
bprompthehe... I don;'t mind it... but I use mostly synaptics23:59

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