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greeterumm... has anyone here been kicked from channels by unopaste?00:12
Unit193Slight malfunction, fixed now.00:15
greeterok cool :-) thank you kindly Unit19300:15
Unit193greeter: Sorry for the trouble.00:20
Sk1dsudo do-release-upgrade works now00:20
Unit193Yep, sync is done, switch has been flipped.00:20
greeterah no worries :-)00:21
sakangtrying the lxde-qt on trusty. lxqt-panel requires icu-tools which is not there.  is this similar to icu-devtools?01:23
SonikkuAmericaI dunno, file a bug perhaps?01:23
sakanghow about menu? can't seem to see any.  does it help if I install razorqt?01:25
ianorlinI think you could use razor panel to get a menu01:26
ianorlinare you sure it is not libicu-dev?01:26
sakangthat's what comes to mind as the desktop looks very much razor01:26
sakang  lxqt-panel  Depends: icu-tools  libstatgrab6 but it is not installable01:28
sakangI do have libicu52 installed01:29
sakangthis is a fresh trusty install with just openbox and lxqt.  fortunately I can use alt+f201:30
sakangusing tint2 as panel right now01:31
sakangno menu so I just use alt+f2 or from terminal01:31
SonikkuAmericasakang: You can also do skeleton stuff by right-clicking in Openbox01:32
sakangSonikkuAmerica: right click on lxqt looks like file manager menu.  not the openbox menu01:34
SonikkuAmericasakang: You can change that in the Properties dialog01:35
sakangSonikkuAmerica: I don't see that01:35
SonikkuAmericasakang: Well I'm using Xubuntu, but it's the very last item in the right-click menu...01:36
sakang desktop preference is the last item01:36
john_ramboHi I am using a new installation of 14.04. Problem is pavucontrol says "No cards available for configuration" System info : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7272122/01:38
zombiehoffayay! they turned on upgrades!01:42
sakangSonikkuAmerica: re-built lxqt-panel, and it looks very much the razorqt panel01:57
sakanglooks really nice01:58
SonikkuAmericaI'll let you in on a little secret01:58
SonikkuAmericaLXDE-Qt is the merger of LXDE and Razor01:59
sakanghuh?  it's an open secret.  :)02:00
sakangfor those interested, I used this guide http://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/installing-the-lightweight-lxde-qt-desktop/02:02
TechmanGood work on the 14.04 update guys02:03
TechmanJust wanted to drop in and say thanks!02:03
Sk1dsomehow I am missing thw wlan symbol ...02:35
Ahmuckhi.  installed 14.04 and now have no wireless.  suggestions?03:24
holstein!wifi03:24
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs03:24
holsteinAhmuck: elaboarate, or install the proprietary blob you need, or double check that the hardware isnt broken, or disabled via switch or on the bios03:24
TechmanLol I just noticed we don't have a network manager icon in the taskbar03:33
TechmanInteresting03:33
Techmanoh wait03:34
Techmannetwork-manager is installed03:34
Techmanhmm03:34
Techmanholstein: where's the wireless indicator at?03:37
TechmanI am on ethernet but it's not showing up03:37
holsteinTechman: in the menu.. nm-applet if its not running03:41
TechmanYeah it wasn't03:41
TechmanI'll add a cron to make it launch on startup03:42
Ahmuckhave no wireless after installing 14.0403:44
holsteinAhmuck: ok.. let us know if you have a question03:45
Unit193Techman: Why not copy the desktop file to ~/.config/autostart/ ?03:46
TechmanBecause I like cron03:46
Unit193Hah. alrighty-o.03:46
Ahmuckthere is not autodetection for the wireless03:49
Ahmuckwhereas there was before.  why?03:49
holsteinAhmuck: so, is wifi working? or some autodetection? what is "auto detection"?03:50
Ahmuckno, wifi is not showing up on the network manager but the adapter does show up in system information03:52
Ahmucksystem profiler03:52
Ahmucknetwork connections03:53
Ahmuckbefore i had an options for network connections03:53
Ahmucker, a list of wireless connections03:54
holsteinAhmuck: you wont see a list if the driver is not working03:54
holsteinAhmuck: if you required a proprietary driver, install it03:54
holsteinAhmuck: what chipset?03:54
Ahmuckok, i'll look for the chipset.  i am assuming that the driver got dropped for 14.04 as previously i did not have to do anything03:55
holsteinAhmuck: why? please dont assume anything03:55
holsteinAhmuck: please just look and report what chipset you have03:55
AhmuckQualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI Express)03:58
Ahmuck(rev 01)03:58
holsteinAhmuck: my atheros all just work03:58
holsteinAhmuck: please make sure you have the device plugged in, and enabled in the bios, and on with the hardware switches03:59
Ahmuckit is03:59
holsteinAhmuck: try with the 13.10 live CD to make sure03:59
Ahmucki was using it in 13.10, downloaded 14.04, installed, and *poof*04:00
Ahmuckok04:00
mikeche1enafter update to 14.04 the network manager applet says "network manager is not running"04:05
Ahmuckpoint of information, after the update i lost the network manager from my panel items and had to add it myself04:06
mikeche1enthe panel item is there but all the options are greyed out04:07
mikeche1engonna reboot04:07
Unit193sudo service network-manager restart04:08
Ahmuckrebooting to 13.1004:11
mikeche1enstill says network manager is not running :04:11
mikeche1enD:04:11
Unit193mikeche1en: sudo service network-manager start04:11
mikeche1enstart: Job is already running: network-manager04:12
mikeche1enUnit193: if i do restart, then the nm applet menu changes to say "no network devices available"04:16
mikeche1ensudo service network-manager restart04:16
Unit193And of course hardware switch is on, no additional driver needed, and all that jazz?04:17
mikeche1enUnit193: yeah i mean the network is working fine, im using it right now :D04:17
mikeche1enits just the applet being funky04:17
Unit193network-manager needs to go home, it's drunk.  I can tell you that I've had none of these problems here at least.04:18
mikeche1enpreferences -> network connections is also blank04:18
Unit193(Been running trusty over a month now.)04:18
Unit193Alright.  So.04:18
mikeche1enyeah i unfortunately i find little stuff breaks when i do upgrades04:18
Unit193Little stuff, of course.04:19
mikeche1enthis system went 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.0404:19
mikeche1eni mean the network connection is still working, but now i cant enable my vpn04:19
Unit193One here started out at 11.04 beta.04:19
mikeche1enits little stuff but with strange behavior and obscure fixes04:20
Unit193`nm-tool` gives you nothing I presume?04:20
mikeche1en error: could not connect to NetworkManager04:20
* Unit193 restarts network-manager.04:21
mikeche1enfull error: http://pastebin.com/NtGQcRdX04:21
Ahmuckworks in 13.10, not in 14.0404:21
holsteinAhmuck: ok. so, you know the hardware is working04:21
Ahmuckyes04:22
holsteinAhmuck: i would just look for and apply upgrades, and look for a bug report about that particular hardware04:22
Ahmuckthere are no upgrades04:22
holsteini would get in the larger ubuntu community ASAP, since its not related to lubuntu or LXDE04:22
mikeche1enwith service restart: http://pastebin.com/CSRVVKRz04:22
Ahmucki'll have to file a bug04:22
Unit193mikeche1en: Can you stop the service and  sudo NetworkManager --no-daemon  ?04:23
mikeche1enUnit193: that gives a ton of console output but seems to be working fine, what next?04:24
mikeche1enthe nm applet still shows "no network devices"04:24
Ahmuckthe controller is a Qualcom Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI Express) (rev01)04:25
Unit193mikeche1en: The idea is to see if anything happens when you try to use nm-tool.04:27
mikeche1enUnit193: oh, i just found that nm-tool works if run with sudo04:33
Ahmuckhi.  there is a problem and has been for a while with duplication of icons on the panel.  for example, i have two icons for the battery, two for the keyboard, etc.  the icons are different and i assume that one is lubuntu and the other is ubuntu04:45
holsteinAhmuck: in addition to the wifi thing?04:47
Ahmuckyes, this has been a problem for a while.  system tray04:47
holsteinAhmuck: maybe you are running them both at boot04:47
Ahmuckhas duplicate icons04:47
Ahmuckit's a vanilla system04:47
Ahmuckfresh installed04:47
Ahmuckk, panel preferences just crashed ... a first04:49
holsteinAhmuck: ?04:50
holsteinAhmuck: so, you have no wifi? and duplicate icons? and something crashed? and you installed a few hours ago?04:50
holsteinAhmuck: maybe you have some hardware issue, or incompatibility with linux and your hardware04:50
Ahmuckthe duplicate icons have been a problem for a while04:51
Ahmuckthe panel preference crash is new04:51
holsteinAhmuck: i have no duplicate icons04:51
Ahmuckno wifi is new04:51
jeanaustinrI'm trying to make a LiveUSB (for 14.04) from Lubuntu using Unetbootin, however, it's not completely working. I'm guessing the current version of the program does not yet support the latest image of *Ubuntu.04:54
jeanaustinrAnyone else having problems similar to mine?04:55
holsteincompletely?04:57
holsteinjeanaustinr: ive used the lubuntu 14.04 testing isos (dailies from last week) with unet04:57
jeanaustinrI mean, it processes but it does not make the USB bootable.04:57
holsteinjeanaustinr: when i encouter that, i format the stick04:57
Ahmuckholstein: ur special04:58
jeanaustinrholstein, I already did that04:59
holsteinjeanaustinr: could be a bad stick, or a mad sum04:59
holsteinbad*04:59
holstein!md504:59
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows04:59
holsteinjeanaustinr: it worked for me, though, you can dd copy the iso's now05:00
jeanaustinrThanks for the link. I tried redownloading the image, I'm working on it right now.05:00
holsteinjeanaustinr: be sure you confirm the sum, to make certain you have a problem with the image05:01
holsteinAhmuck: ?05:01
jeanaustinrholstein, yep... the sum is correct05:03
jeanaustinrno problem with the image I downlaoded05:03
holsteinthen, i would try dd copy05:03
jeanaustinrOk holstein let me do that05:13
Ahmuckwhere do i begin filing bugs?05:18
holstein!bug05:18
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.05:18
Unit193mikeche1en: But it's not normal to run it with `sudo`. :/05:20
Ahmuckright click icon on menu for properties, properties dialog does not open05:25
holsteinok.. let us know if you have a question05:25
holsteinotherwise, Ahmuck , you have the bug link..05:25
holstein!bug05:25
Ahmuckgnite05:25
Ahmuckbtw, did lubuntu channel get taken by ubuntu admins?05:26
holsteinAhmuck: taken?05:26
holsteinAhmuck: lubuntu *is* ubuntu05:26
holsteinno one has taken or changed anything05:27
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TechmanIs it just me or does the lock screen option not work?06:43
mikeche1enUnit193: oh ok, well it was showing errors when run by user07:41
mikeche1enUnit193: im probably going to do a reinstall07:41
Unit193Try live first.07:41
mikeche1ensure i can, i've never had problems on this hardware before07:42
mikeche1enso my guess is just that something was borked during upgrade07:42
trijntjehow can the lubuntu LTS only have 3 years support while the normal ubuntu has 5 years? Doesn't lubuntu use the exact same repository as ubuntu?09:52
JohnDoe_71Rustrijntje: 5 years for server editions09:54
MeerkatJohnDoe_71Rus, ubuntu, kubuntu, and a few others also have 5 years of support.09:55
mickyHi!09:55
JohnDoe_71Rushttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS09:56
KyouReeUs4nfoWhen I run sudo network-admin it only shows "General", "DNS" and "Hosts" tab, I am wondering why it wouldn't show "Connections" tab. Any pointers? I am running Lubuntu 14.04 64-bit.10:20
sudiptocan lubuntu be run on 2.1 Ghz, 1gb ram and 250gb hd10:20
Meerkatsudipto, yes.10:21
sudiptodate resets to 00:00 on every boot10:22
sharefreeis lubuntu spying on you10:39
mickysharefree, I asked this before here and the answer war: no10:41
sharefreebut ubuntu is spying on you10:41
mickyno amazon and no unity search thing...10:41
micky...in lubuntu10:41
sharefreebut store is there and you need an account to download it10:42
mickyif you want to be 100% sure go tu the gnu website and go to distros...10:42
mickywhat store?10:42
sharefreeUbuntu Software Center10:44
mickywhat about it? how should that spy on you? As far as I know it is just a GUI of all the stuff in the respositories10:44
trijntjeyeah, all this stuf about ubuntu/lubuntu/canonical spying on users is nonsense10:45
trijntjehow can the lubuntu LTS only have 3 years support while the normal ubuntu has 5 years? Doesn't lubuntu use the exact same repository as ubuntu?10:45
mickydont know10:46
sharefreeUbuntu - not spying10:50
sharefreeif so why do you offer prop. softwares in ubuntu software center10:52
trijntjesharefree: your question makes no sense. But there is propriatary software in the repository of most linux distributions because some users want it10:54
trijntjethinks like skype, flash, drivers for certain hardware etc10:54
sharefreeso true10:54
sharefreeso Ubuntu - not spying10:54
trijntjeif you dont trust it, don't install it10:54
sharefreeYa10:54
sharefreeI did not think of it that way10:54
trijntjeyou can even install a program that checks your system for propriatary software: vrms10:55
mickyHave there been security bugs reposted for Lubuntu 14.04?10:56
sharefreedoes lubuntu support ati drivers ?10:56
sharefreeI want to try lubuntu some day10:57
sharefreemicahg, trijntje my problem is i am using Amd c-60 based laptop with radeon 629010:57
sharefreeit low powered10:57
sharefreeand i tried all the distros i could10:58
sharefreeDebian10:58
sharefreeDebian stable based point linux crunchbang10:58
sharefreeFedora10:58
sharefreeUbuntu10:58
sharefreeXubuntu10:58
sharefreebut nothing works out of the box10:58
sharefreein some the opensource galium driver seem to work like in ubuntu but it sucks10:59
sharefreealso in ubuntu you have to download a lot of codecs before getting it ready for videos of all kind10:59
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trijntjesharefree: it probably wont work out of the box, since there are legal restrictions on things like codecs, which means ubuntu can't install them by default11:06
sharefreetrijntje, in that case ubuntu better than other non-free OS11:09
sharefreeits more Free as in freedom than11:09
sharefreecuz trijntje when i install other non-free linux distro they have all working outta box11:09
_joeydist-upgrade doesn't work11:09
_joeyi mean it's not upgrading to 14.0411:09
sharefree_joey, its not out there yet11:10
_joeylubuntu 14.04 is out the topic says11:10
sharefreeomg11:11
sharefreesorry i did not read11:11
_joeythat's strange: software update says 14.04 is available, while dist-upgrade doesn't11:12
_joeydo-release-upgrade11:18
_joeysome sucker could have told me11:18
Mikaela_joey: Have you tried "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade"? If those don't fix it, try "do-release-upgrade -d"11:21
MikaelaOh, your issue was that you didn't know about do-release-upgrade.11:21
jared_joey: sorry mate, didn't see it until now. Dist-upgrade is not what I think you're thinking it is. For more info there is a write up on Ask Ubuntu - http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade11:22
_joeyupgrade is on the way11:25
_joeyhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades11:25
jaredGood to hear, mine were entirely painless for both Ubuntu and Lubuntu11:25
_joeyI remember last upgrade broke so many things on my system11:26
_joeyI keep my fingers crossed11:27
_joeyI've got daily back-ups11:27
_joeyI expect to have a lot things broken again11:31
_joeyfor certain commercial software that require older library versions11:31
_joey:(11:31
sharefree_joey, why do you use lubuntu ?11:33
_joeyI am a poor bugger who can't afford a license for ms windows and better system able to run fast enough ms windows11:35
sharefreetry alt linux11:38
sharefreesimplylinux.ru11:38
sharefree_joey, ^11:38
_joeywhat for?11:38
sharefree_joey, better support and easy updates11:44
_joeylubuntu is ubuntu based. i doubt many distrubtions are better supported11:48
sharefreesimply linux _joey try it and you would forget other forever11:50
sharefreeRPM-based = better11:50
MikaelaIt doesn't sound very good idea to advertise another distribution on main channel of Lubuntu.11:50
sharefreeI loveeeeeeeeee Lubuntu11:50
MikaelaI have used RPM-based distributions, but I always returned to Debian-based ones.11:51
GibarianA partition question, deleting windows from your dual-boot menu11:53
_joeynah! lubuntu is lean ubuntu well supported11:54
_joeyit has userbase of entire world11:55
_joeyi had one distrubution installed once called archlinux. i needed to all myself. i am kind of lazy .  i like others to configure and maintain everything for me11:56
sydneyJDykstraShould I help ypu guys seed a torrent?12:21
MikaelaPeople who have downloaded it are probably seeding it. I didn't even think about downloading it yet as I used do-release-upgrade.12:33
Sk2dHey I need help I try to upgrade to 14.10 but there seems to be a problem It says upgrade finished but there where some errors: "sudo apt-get -f install" does not work as /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_i386.deb crashes what can I do? (I dont need samba and samba-lib is the only package with problems)12:47
Sk2da full (german) log when I enter sudo apt-get -f install can be found here: http://pastebin.com/ULrHDHh212:50
andresherrhello. sorry for my bad english. i have install lubuntu lts on my laptop. i have two problems: I can't see nm-applet and  xfce-power is not starting by default12:54
vjacobI keep getting a "want to send crash error" when I log-in to Lubuntu. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot further?12:58
Sk2dok I removed /var/lib/samba and then it did not crash13:17
pip__anybody having network problems with 14.04?13:28
Sk1dpip__: my wlan symbol was missing but no.13:51
pip__h'mmmm, mines broken  Possibly a hardware thing I guess, but it was okay running from the live beta13:52
pip__it's a bit of a disaster tbh13:53
leszekpip__: whats the exact problem ?13:53
pip__the live environment won't give me any wifi13:54
pip__the symbol isnm't there & when I add the panel applet it won't connect to the network after I give it the correct password13:54
pip__but I'm not at the machine now so....13:54
pip__I'll have to deal with it later13:55
pip__just trying to find out if it's just me, wich it looks llike it is13:55
leszekpip__: there was a hickup with authentication. I know that starting the nm-applet with root rights helps. So gksu nm-applet13:55
leszekpip__: network manager not showing up is a general problem13:55
pip__okay I'll try when I get back home13:55
leszekit seems to be missing from the autostart simply. As for the authentication problem I only read it somewhere few hours ago13:56
pip__I installed from the beta2 release, which ran fine from usb, even network manager13:56
pip__but that wont boot now13:56
pip__so I tried the final release & got the network issue13:56
pip__when running from usb, so I've not reinstalled yet13:57
leszekpip__: as I said the networkmanager not coming up on start is a known bug13:58
leszekthe authentication problem I am not so sure. Not everyone seems to have it13:58
pip__okay, it's something to work with at least13:59
_joeyi will never ever ever again upgrade my system14:47
_joeyas i suspected the upgrade messed up my system14:47
_joeythe botton panel is reversed. meny is on the right, keyboard, time icons on the left14:47
_joeythe network applet disappeared for 3G14:48
_joeyI cannot use internet anymore14:48
_joeypathetic14:48
MikaelaNetwork applet is known issue and there is workaround to run nm-applet as root.14:51
Mikaela https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/130834814:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1308348 in lxpanel (Ubuntu Trusty) "network settings indicator missing from panel" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:52
MikaelaOthers are unfamiliar to me.14:52
jared_joey: bearing in mind if you've heavily customised your system (as you've mentioned previously to support out of date packages) you might run in to a lot more issues than a normal installation.14:55
jared_joey: to try and reset the panel there are some instructions here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel14:57
_joeyit wasn't heavily customised at all14:57
_joeywhat do I do with network applet?14:58
jaredAs for the network applet the fix Mikaela suggested might help with the internet issues as well14:58
_joeyChange owner:group to the local account from root.14:59
jared_joey: short version, it's installed just isn't currently autostarting on boot for some reason. If you type "gksu nm-applet" into a terminal it should appear for that session14:59
_joeyfor panels14:59
_joeythat i copied from root to ~14:59
_joeyso Mikaela network settings indicator cannot fixed?15:01
Mikaela_joey: try alt+f2 and type "nm-applet"15:01
jared_joey: the network settings issue is a known bug that they're working on. For now that command will get it to work until they have the bug resolved15:01
_joeywhat command will get it?15:02
_joeyi don't you what you are saying15:02
* _joey is frastrated15:02
_joeysorry15:02
jared_joey: for the network manager issue type "gksu nm-applet" into a termina15:04
jared_joey: for your panel issue try the instructions at the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel15:05
_joey gksu nm-applet did nothing15:05
_joeythis is unbelievable15:07
Mikaela"nm-applet" without quotes worked for me without gksu.15:08
_joeywhat exactly 'works' mean in the context?15:08
jmoseman01hey15:08
Mikaelanm-applet15:08
_joeythe command 'nm-applet' just sits in the terminal15:09
MikaelaI typed that to ALT+F2 and then the indicator appeared to the corner.15:09
jmoseman01I'm trying to make lxde my default on my server how do I do that15:09
jmoseman01it's ubuntu before15:09
jmoseman01ubuntu with unity15:09
_joeyit's not appearing for me. Ethernet and wifi appeared but the 3G hasn't15:09
jmoseman01unity > lxde default?15:09
_joeyjare and Mikaela thanks15:10
_joeyi will be in a sec15:10
Mikaela_joey: Try right clicking it.15:10
jmoseman01Mikaela:  do you know how to set up lxde as the default desktop environment on ubuntu15:12
jmoseman01?15:12
MikaelaSorry, I don't know, but someone else might.15:13
jmoseman01do you know who to ask?15:13
jmoseman01do you know the command to launch it?15:14
_joeyMikaela and jared thanks! I fixed both problems15:15
MikaelaYou're welcome :)15:16
_joeyI had setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle in ~/.xsessionrc15:17
Mikaelajmoseman01: I'm not sure but if someone knows, they will probably tell you. startx starts x at least, but I'm not sure about specifying lxde.15:17
_joeyit no longer works. I need to execute the command manually15:17
jmoseman01mikaela:  I'm on ubuntu using unity but I have lxde installed15:21
jmoseman01Mikaela:  I need to figure out how to set lxde to default15:21
wxljmoseman01: i bet #ubuntu would be of better help there. i know how to change your window manager in lxde, but ubuntu is a different ball of wax.15:27
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jared_joey: glad to hear it worked out :)15:33
jaredjmoseman01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session should be a good start to help you out15:35
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MajBThanks to any and all who made Lubuntu 14.04 possible.  Just downloaded it in 16 minutes.  We shall see how the first LTS version does.16:03
UrielVigilantI can t put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7276838/16:17
UrielVigilanthelp me put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.16:22
holstein!broadcom | UrielVigilant16:26
ubottuUrielVigilant: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:26
holsteinubottu: you can use the main #ubuntu support since this is not particularly lubuntu or lxde related16:26
ubottuholstein: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:26
holsteinUrielVigilant: ^16:26
UrielVigilantholstein16:28
zookoHey folks, I've installed Lubuntu 14.04 (actually a pre-release from a few days before the release), and I can't find a control to turn on wifi or select a wifi network.17:07
nosmelcHow do I change the Digital Clock to 12-hour display format?17:16
zookoOh, running nm-applet fixed my problem.17:16
kosaidhey17:23
kosaiddoes anyone kno how to turn off energy saving , i;ve tried many things bt still not work17:24
UrielVigilantcommand line to install xlstproc on lubuntu , i cant find it on software apps ...17:42
nosmelcHow do I change the Digital Clock to 12-hour display format?18:14
ianorlinhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock18:16
ianorlinyou can right click on the clock and hit digital clock settings18:17
ianorlinthen in the clock settings you could make it %I:%m in the string for the clock which would be the hour followed by minutes18:18
nosmelcianorlin: thanks!18:20
zookoDoes anyone here know why nm-applet doesn't start by default in my new Lubuntu 14.04?19:41
zookoI have to run "nm-applet" from the terminal before I have the ability to view or change wifi networks.19:41
wxlzooko: known bug. it's in the release notes.19:41
wxl!bug 130834819:42
ubottubug 1308348 in lxpanel (Ubuntu Trusty) "network settings indicator missing from panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130834819:42
zookowxl: thanks!19:42
wxlwxl: np19:42
zookoNext question: how do I tell grub to install into /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 instead of into the device that / is currently mounted on: /dev/sda5?19:44
zooko Or conversely, how to tell the "refind" boot manager for EFI to look in /dev/sda5 for kernels to boot.19:46
zookoHm, in fact I think I really need the former, because /dev/sda5 has btrfs on it, so refind and grub aren't going to know how to boot from it.19:52
* zooko join #ubuntu-installer19:52
zookoHm, oh yeah and Network Manager often fails for me in a mysterious way which means I just can't associate with any wifis, and the workaround is to uninstall it and use wicd instead.20:06
zookoI remember that now.20:06
zookoNow that I'm stuck, with no wifi and no copy of wicd. :-)20:06
zookoHm, maybe if I reinstall lubuntu 14.04 and tell it to use /dev/sda1 mounted on "/boot" then I won't have this problem with refind not being able to boot it ...20:08
nosmelcWill there be any difference between upgrading to 14.04 and doing a fresh reinstall using 14.04?20:44
ianorlinlaptopfresh reinstall will only have options on the disk while upgrading will have other things you have installed also get upgraded but that can make it take longer20:44
ianorlinlaptopas you have to download new versions for trusty in upgrade20:45
llogiqhi folks.21:16
MikaelaHi21:17
llogiqHooray for 14.04. (I'm using it since beta2 arrived and I got my new notebook)21:17
llogiqStrange thing is that nm-applet does no longer show up since two days ago.21:18
llogiqWhen I start it manually, it works.21:18
llogiqPerhaps something broke my autostart settings?21:18
wxl!bug 1308348 | llogiq21:19
ubottubug 1308348 in lxpanel (Ubuntu Trusty) "network settings indicator missing from panel" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/130834821:19
wxlread: known issue. in fact it's in the release notes.21:19
llogiqwxl, thanks.21:19
llogiqI guess I can wait for the official fix to arrive. Strange thing though.21:23
llogiqLaterz.21:23
logiscan someone help me? how to set resolution 1366x 768 (lubuntu 14.04)23:38
koelllogis: i think right click on desktop23:50
logisthe option only 1024x76823:52
koellu may need some additional driver i think.23:52
logismine is old there's no additional driver23:53
logislogis@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA23:53
logis01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)23:53

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