[00:12] <greeter> umm... has anyone here been kicked from channels by unopaste?
[00:15] <Unit193> Slight malfunction, fixed now.
[00:15] <greeter> ok cool :-) thank you kindly Unit193
[00:20] <Unit193> greeter: Sorry for the trouble.
[00:20] <Sk1d> sudo do-release-upgrade works now
[00:20] <Unit193> Yep, sync is done, switch has been flipped.
[00:21] <greeter> ah no worries :-)
[01:23] <sakang> trying the lxde-qt on trusty. lxqt-panel requires icu-tools which is not there.  is this similar to icu-devtools?
[01:23] <SonikkuAmerica> I dunno, file a bug perhaps?
[01:25] <sakang> how about menu? can't seem to see any.  does it help if I install razorqt?
[01:26] <ianorlin> I think you could use razor panel to get a menu
[01:26] <ianorlin> are you sure it is not libicu-dev?
[01:26] <sakang> that's what comes to mind as the desktop looks very much razor
[01:28] <sakang>   lxqt-panel  Depends: icu-tools  libstatgrab6 but it is not installable
[01:29] <sakang> I do have libicu52 installed
[01:30] <sakang> this is a fresh trusty install with just openbox and lxqt.  fortunately I can use alt+f2
[01:31] <sakang> using tint2 as panel right now
[01:31] <sakang> no menu so I just use alt+f2 or from terminal
[01:32] <SonikkuAmerica> sakang: You can also do skeleton stuff by right-clicking in Openbox
[01:34] <sakang> SonikkuAmerica: right click on lxqt looks like file manager menu.  not the openbox menu
[01:35] <SonikkuAmerica> sakang: You can change that in the Properties dialog
[01:35] <sakang> SonikkuAmerica: I don't see that
[01:36] <SonikkuAmerica> sakang: Well I'm using Xubuntu, but it's the very last item in the right-click menu...
[01:36] <sakang>  desktop preference is the last item
[01:38] <john_rambo> Hi I am using a new installation of 14.04. Problem is pavucontrol says "No cards available for configuration" System info : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7272122/
[01:42] <zombiehoffa> yay! they turned on upgrades!
[01:57] <sakang> SonikkuAmerica: re-built lxqt-panel, and it looks very much the razorqt panel
[01:58] <sakang> looks really nice
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> I'll let you in on a little secret
[01:59] <SonikkuAmerica> LXDE-Qt is the merger of LXDE and Razor
[02:00] <sakang> huh?  it's an open secret.  :)
[02:02] <sakang> for those interested, I used this guide http://xpressubuntu.wordpress.com/2014/03/01/installing-the-lightweight-lxde-qt-desktop/
[02:03] <Techman> Good work on the 14.04 update guys
[02:03] <Techman> Just wanted to drop in and say thanks!
[02:35] <Sk1d> somehow I am missing thw wlan symbol ...
[03:24] <Ahmuck> hi.  installed 14.04 and now have no wireless.  suggestions?
[03:24] <holstein> !wifi
[03:24] <holstein> Ahmuck: elaboarate, or install the proprietary blob you need, or double check that the hardware isnt broken, or disabled via switch or on the bios
[03:33] <Techman> Lol I just noticed we don't have a network manager icon in the taskbar
[03:33] <Techman> Interesting
[03:34] <Techman> oh wait
[03:34] <Techman> network-manager is installed
[03:34] <Techman> hmm
[03:37] <Techman> holstein: where's the wireless indicator at?
[03:37] <Techman> I am on ethernet but it's not showing up
[03:41] <holstein> Techman: in the menu.. nm-applet if its not running
[03:41] <Techman> Yeah it wasn't
[03:42] <Techman> I'll add a cron to make it launch on startup
[03:44] <Ahmuck> have no wireless after installing 14.04
[03:45] <holstein> Ahmuck: ok.. let us know if you have a question
[03:46] <Unit193> Techman: Why not copy the desktop file to ~/.config/autostart/ ?
[03:46] <Techman> Because I like cron
[03:46] <Unit193> Hah. alrighty-o.
[03:49] <Ahmuck> there is not autodetection for the wireless
[03:49] <Ahmuck> whereas there was before.  why?
[03:50] <holstein> Ahmuck: so, is wifi working? or some autodetection? what is "auto detection"?
[03:52] <Ahmuck> no, wifi is not showing up on the network manager but the adapter does show up in system information
[03:52] <Ahmuck> system profiler
[03:53] <Ahmuck> network connections
[03:53] <Ahmuck> before i had an options for network connections
[03:54] <Ahmuck> er, a list of wireless connections
[03:54] <holstein> Ahmuck: you wont see a list if the driver is not working
[03:54] <holstein> Ahmuck: if you required a proprietary driver, install it
[03:54] <holstein> Ahmuck: what chipset?
[03:55] <Ahmuck> ok, i'll look for the chipset.  i am assuming that the driver got dropped for 14.04 as previously i did not have to do anything
[03:55] <holstein> Ahmuck: why? please dont assume anything
[03:55] <holstein> Ahmuck: please just look and report what chipset you have
[03:58] <Ahmuck> Qualcomm Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI Express)
[03:58] <Ahmuck> (rev 01)
[03:58] <holstein> Ahmuck: my atheros all just work
[03:59] <holstein> Ahmuck: please make sure you have the device plugged in, and enabled in the bios, and on with the hardware switches
[03:59] <Ahmuck> it is
[03:59] <holstein> Ahmuck: try with the 13.10 live CD to make sure
[04:00] <Ahmuck> i was using it in 13.10, downloaded 14.04, installed, and *poof*
[04:00] <Ahmuck> ok
[04:05] <mikeche1en> after update to 14.04 the network manager applet says "network manager is not running"
[04:06] <Ahmuck> point of information, after the update i lost the network manager from my panel items and had to add it myself
[04:07] <mikeche1en> the panel item is there but all the options are greyed out
[04:07] <mikeche1en> gonna reboot
[04:08] <Unit193> sudo service network-manager restart
[04:11] <Ahmuck> rebooting to 13.10
[04:11] <mikeche1en> still says network manager is not running :
[04:11] <mikeche1en> D:
[04:11] <Unit193> mikeche1en: sudo service network-manager start
[04:12] <mikeche1en> start: Job is already running: network-manager
[04:16] <mikeche1en> Unit193: if i do restart, then the nm applet menu changes to say "no network devices available"
[04:16] <mikeche1en> sudo service network-manager restart
[04:17] <Unit193> And of course hardware switch is on, no additional driver needed, and all that jazz?
[04:17] <mikeche1en> Unit193: yeah i mean the network is working fine, im using it right now :D
[04:17] <mikeche1en> its just the applet being funky
[04:18] <Unit193> network-manager needs to go home, it's drunk.  I can tell you that I've had none of these problems here at least.
[04:18] <mikeche1en> preferences -> network connections is also blank
[04:18] <Unit193> (Been running trusty over a month now.)
[04:18] <Unit193> Alright.  So.
[04:18] <mikeche1en> yeah i unfortunately i find little stuff breaks when i do upgrades
[04:19] <Unit193> Little stuff, of course.
[04:19] <mikeche1en> this system went 13.04 -> 13.10 -> 14.04
[04:19] <mikeche1en> i mean the network connection is still working, but now i cant enable my vpn
[04:19] <Unit193> One here started out at 11.04 beta.
[04:20] <mikeche1en> its little stuff but with strange behavior and obscure fixes
[04:20] <Unit193> `nm-tool` gives you nothing I presume?
[04:20] <mikeche1en>  error: could not connect to NetworkManager
[04:21]  * Unit193 restarts network-manager.
[04:21] <mikeche1en> full error: http://pastebin.com/NtGQcRdX
[04:21] <Ahmuck> works in 13.10, not in 14.04
[04:21] <holstein> Ahmuck: ok. so, you know the hardware is working
[04:22] <Ahmuck> yes
[04:22] <holstein> Ahmuck: i would just look for and apply upgrades, and look for a bug report about that particular hardware
[04:22] <Ahmuck> there are no upgrades
[04:22] <holstein> i would get in the larger ubuntu community ASAP, since its not related to lubuntu or LXDE
[04:22] <mikeche1en> with service restart: http://pastebin.com/CSRVVKRz
[04:22] <Ahmuck> i'll have to file a bug
[04:23] <Unit193> mikeche1en: Can you stop the service and  sudo NetworkManager --no-daemon  ?
[04:24] <mikeche1en> Unit193: that gives a ton of console output but seems to be working fine, what next?
[04:24] <mikeche1en> the nm applet still shows "no network devices"
[04:25] <Ahmuck> the controller is a Qualcom Atheros AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI Express) (rev01)
[04:27] <Unit193> mikeche1en: The idea is to see if anything happens when you try to use nm-tool.
[04:33] <mikeche1en> Unit193: oh, i just found that nm-tool works if run with sudo
[04:45] <Ahmuck> hi.  there is a problem and has been for a while with duplication of icons on the panel.  for example, i have two icons for the battery, two for the keyboard, etc.  the icons are different and i assume that one is lubuntu and the other is ubuntu
[04:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: in addition to the wifi thing?
[04:47] <Ahmuck> yes, this has been a problem for a while.  system tray
[04:47] <holstein> Ahmuck: maybe you are running them both at boot
[04:47] <Ahmuck> has duplicate icons
[04:47] <Ahmuck> it's a vanilla system
[04:47] <Ahmuck> fresh installed
[04:49] <Ahmuck> k, panel preferences just crashed ... a first
[04:50] <holstein> Ahmuck: ?
[04:50] <holstein> Ahmuck: so, you have no wifi? and duplicate icons? and something crashed? and you installed a few hours ago?
[04:50] <holstein> Ahmuck: maybe you have some hardware issue, or incompatibility with linux and your hardware
[04:51] <Ahmuck> the duplicate icons have been a problem for a while
[04:51] <Ahmuck> the panel preference crash is new
[04:51] <holstein> Ahmuck: i have no duplicate icons
[04:51] <Ahmuck> no wifi is new
[04:54] <jeanaustinr> I'm trying to make a LiveUSB (for 14.04) from Lubuntu using Unetbootin, however, it's not completely working. I'm guessing the current version of the program does not yet support the latest image of *Ubuntu.
[04:55] <jeanaustinr> Anyone else having problems similar to mine?
[04:57] <holstein> completely?
[04:57] <holstein> jeanaustinr: ive used the lubuntu 14.04 testing isos (dailies from last week) with unet
[04:57] <jeanaustinr> I mean, it processes but it does not make the USB bootable.
[04:57] <holstein> jeanaustinr: when i encouter that, i format the stick
[04:58] <Ahmuck> holstein: ur special
[04:59] <jeanaustinr> holstein, I already did that
[04:59] <holstein> jeanaustinr: could be a bad stick, or a mad sum
[04:59] <holstein> bad*
[04:59] <holstein> !md5
[05:00] <holstein> jeanaustinr: it worked for me, though, you can dd copy the iso's now
[05:00] <jeanaustinr> Thanks for the link. I tried redownloading the image, I'm working on it right now.
[05:01] <holstein> jeanaustinr: be sure you confirm the sum, to make certain you have a problem with the image
[05:01] <holstein> Ahmuck: ?
[05:03] <jeanaustinr> holstein, yep... the sum is correct
[05:03] <jeanaustinr> no problem with the image I downlaoded
[05:03] <holstein> then, i would try dd copy
[05:13] <jeanaustinr> Ok holstein let me do that
[05:18] <Ahmuck> where do i begin filing bugs?
[05:18] <holstein> !bug
[05:20] <Unit193> mikeche1en: But it's not normal to run it with `sudo`. :/
[05:25] <Ahmuck> right click icon on menu for properties, properties dialog does not open
[05:25] <holstein> ok.. let us know if you have a question
[05:25] <holstein> otherwise, Ahmuck , you have the bug link..
[05:25] <holstein> !bug
[05:25] <Ahmuck> gnite
[05:26] <Ahmuck> btw, did lubuntu channel get taken by ubuntu admins?
[05:26] <holstein> Ahmuck: taken?
[05:26] <holstein> Ahmuck: lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[05:27] <holstein> no one has taken or changed anything
[06:43] <Techman> Is it just me or does the lock screen option not work?
[07:41] <mikeche1en> Unit193: oh ok, well it was showing errors when run by user
[07:41] <mikeche1en> Unit193: im probably going to do a reinstall
[07:41] <Unit193> Try live first.
[07:42] <mikeche1en> sure i can, i've never had problems on this hardware before
[07:42] <mikeche1en> so my guess is just that something was borked during upgrade
[09:52] <trijntje> how can the lubuntu LTS only have 3 years support while the normal ubuntu has 5 years? Doesn't lubuntu use the exact same repository as ubuntu?
[09:54] <JohnDoe_71Rus> trijntje: 5 years for server editions
[09:55] <Meerkat> JohnDoe_71Rus, ubuntu, kubuntu, and a few others also have 5 years of support.
[09:55] <micky> Hi!
[09:56] <JohnDoe_71Rus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[10:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> When I run sudo network-admin it only shows "General", "DNS" and "Hosts" tab, I am wondering why it wouldn't show "Connections" tab. Any pointers? I am running Lubuntu 14.04 64-bit.
[10:20] <sudipto> can lubuntu be run on 2.1 Ghz, 1gb ram and 250gb hd
[10:21] <Meerkat> sudipto, yes.
[10:22] <sudipto> date resets to 00:00 on every boot
[10:39] <sharefree> is lubuntu spying on you
[10:41] <micky> sharefree, I asked this before here and the answer war: no
[10:41] <sharefree> but ubuntu is spying on you
[10:41] <micky> no amazon and no unity search thing...
[10:41] <micky> ...in lubuntu
[10:42] <sharefree> but store is there and you need an account to download it
[10:42] <micky> if you want to be 100% sure go tu the gnu website and go to distros...
[10:42] <micky> what store?
[10:44] <sharefree> Ubuntu Software Center
[10:44] <micky> what about it? how should that spy on you? As far as I know it is just a GUI of all the stuff in the respositories
[10:45] <trijntje> yeah, all this stuf about ubuntu/lubuntu/canonical spying on users is nonsense
[10:45] <trijntje> how can the lubuntu LTS only have 3 years support while the normal ubuntu has 5 years? Doesn't lubuntu use the exact same repository as ubuntu?
[10:46] <micky> dont know
[10:50] <sharefree> Ubuntu - not spying
[10:52] <sharefree> if so why do you offer prop. softwares in ubuntu software center
[10:54] <trijntje> sharefree: your question makes no sense. But there is propriatary software in the repository of most linux distributions because some users want it
[10:54] <trijntje> thinks like skype, flash, drivers for certain hardware etc
[10:54] <sharefree> so true
[10:54] <sharefree> so Ubuntu - not spying
[10:54] <trijntje> if you dont trust it, don't install it
[10:54] <sharefree> Ya
[10:54] <sharefree> I did not think of it that way
[10:55] <trijntje> you can even install a program that checks your system for propriatary software: vrms
[10:56] <micky> Have there been security bugs reposted for Lubuntu 14.04?
[10:56] <sharefree> does lubuntu support ati drivers ?
[10:57] <sharefree> I want to try lubuntu some day
[10:57] <sharefree> micahg, trijntje my problem is i am using Amd c-60 based laptop with radeon 6290
[10:57] <sharefree> it low powered
[10:58] <sharefree> and i tried all the distros i could
[10:58] <sharefree> Debian
[10:58] <sharefree> Debian stable based point linux crunchbang
[10:58] <sharefree> Fedora
[10:58] <sharefree> Ubuntu
[10:58] <sharefree> Xubuntu
[10:58] <sharefree> but nothing works out of the box
[10:59] <sharefree> in some the opensource galium driver seem to work like in ubuntu but it sucks
[10:59] <sharefree> also in ubuntu you have to download a lot of codecs before getting it ready for videos of all kind
[11:06] <trijntje> sharefree: it probably wont work out of the box, since there are legal restrictions on things like codecs, which means ubuntu can't install them by default
[11:09] <sharefree> trijntje, in that case ubuntu better than other non-free OS
[11:09] <sharefree> its more Free as in freedom than
[11:09] <sharefree> cuz trijntje when i install other non-free linux distro they have all working outta box
[11:09] <_joey> dist-upgrade doesn't work
[11:09] <_joey> i mean it's not upgrading to 14.04
[11:10] <sharefree> _joey, its not out there yet
[11:10] <_joey> lubuntu 14.04 is out the topic says
[11:11] <sharefree> omg
[11:11] <sharefree> sorry i did not read
[11:12] <_joey> that's strange: software update says 14.04 is available, while dist-upgrade doesn't
[11:18] <_joey> do-release-upgrade
[11:18] <_joey> some sucker could have told me
[11:21] <Mikaela> _joey: Have you tried "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade"? If those don't fix it, try "do-release-upgrade -d"
[11:21] <Mikaela> Oh, your issue was that you didn't know about do-release-upgrade.
[11:22] <jared> _joey: sorry mate, didn't see it until now. Dist-upgrade is not what I think you're thinking it is. For more info there is a write up on Ask Ubuntu - http://askubuntu.com/questions/81585/what-is-dist-upgrade-and-why-does-it-upgrade-more-than-upgrade
[11:25] <_joey> upgrade is on the way
[11:25] <_joey> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[11:25] <jared> Good to hear, mine were entirely painless for both Ubuntu and Lubuntu
[11:26] <_joey> I remember last upgrade broke so many things on my system
[11:27] <_joey> I keep my fingers crossed
[11:27] <_joey> I've got daily back-ups
[11:31] <_joey> I expect to have a lot things broken again
[11:31] <_joey> for certain commercial software that require older library versions
[11:31] <_joey> :(
[11:33] <sharefree> _joey, why do you use lubuntu ?
[11:35] <_joey> I am a poor bugger who can't afford a license for ms windows and better system able to run fast enough ms windows
[11:38] <sharefree> try alt linux
[11:38] <sharefree> simplylinux.ru
[11:38] <sharefree> _joey, ^
[11:38] <_joey> what for?
[11:44] <sharefree> _joey, better support and easy updates
[11:48] <_joey> lubuntu is ubuntu based. i doubt many distrubtions are better supported
[11:50] <sharefree> simply linux _joey try it and you would forget other forever
[11:50] <sharefree> RPM-based = better
[11:50] <Mikaela> It doesn't sound very good idea to advertise another distribution on main channel of Lubuntu.
[11:50] <sharefree> I loveeeeeeeeee Lubuntu
[11:51] <Mikaela> I have used RPM-based distributions, but I always returned to Debian-based ones.
[11:53] <Gibarian> A partition question, deleting windows from your dual-boot menu
[11:54] <_joey> nah! lubuntu is lean ubuntu well supported
[11:55] <_joey> it has userbase of entire world
[11:56] <_joey> i had one distrubution installed once called archlinux. i needed to all myself. i am kind of lazy .  i like others to configure and maintain everything for me
[12:21] <sydneyJDykstra> Should I help ypu guys seed a torrent?
[12:33] <Mikaela> People who have downloaded it are probably seeding it. I didn't even think about downloading it yet as I used do-release-upgrade.
[12:47] <Sk2d> Hey I need help I try to upgrade to 14.10 but there seems to be a problem It says upgrade finished but there where some errors: "sudo apt-get -f install" does not work as /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_i386.deb crashes what can I do? (I dont need samba and samba-lib is the only package with problems)
[12:50] <Sk2d> a full (german) log when I enter sudo apt-get -f install can be found here: http://pastebin.com/ULrHDHh2
[12:54] <andresherr> hello. sorry for my bad english. i have install lubuntu lts on my laptop. i have two problems: I can't see nm-applet and  xfce-power is not starting by default
[12:58] <vjacob> I keep getting a "want to send crash error" when I log-in to Lubuntu. Any ideas on how to trouble shoot further?
[13:17] <Sk2d> ok I removed /var/lib/samba and then it did not crash
[13:28] <pip__> anybody having network problems with 14.04?
[13:51] <Sk1d> pip__: my wlan symbol was missing but no.
[13:52] <pip__> h'mmmm, mines broken  Possibly a hardware thing I guess, but it was okay running from the live beta
[13:53] <pip__> it's a bit of a disaster tbh
[13:53] <leszek> pip__: whats the exact problem ?
[13:54] <pip__> the live environment won't give me any wifi
[13:54] <pip__> the symbol isnm't there & when I add the panel applet it won't connect to the network after I give it the correct password
[13:54] <pip__> but I'm not at the machine now so....
[13:55] <pip__> I'll have to deal with it later
[13:55] <pip__> just trying to find out if it's just me, wich it looks llike it is
[13:55] <leszek> pip__: there was a hickup with authentication. I know that starting the nm-applet with root rights helps. So gksu nm-applet
[13:55] <leszek> pip__: network manager not showing up is a general problem
[13:55] <pip__> okay I'll try when I get back home
[13:56] <leszek> it seems to be missing from the autostart simply. As for the authentication problem I only read it somewhere few hours ago
[13:56] <pip__> I installed from the beta2 release, which ran fine from usb, even network manager
[13:56] <pip__> but that wont boot now
[13:56] <pip__> so I tried the final release & got the network issue
[13:57] <pip__> when running from usb, so I've not reinstalled yet
[13:58] <leszek> pip__: as I said the networkmanager not coming up on start is a known bug
[13:58] <leszek> the authentication problem I am not so sure. Not everyone seems to have it
[13:59] <pip__> okay, it's something to work with at least
[14:47] <_joey> i will never ever ever again upgrade my system
[14:47] <_joey> as i suspected the upgrade messed up my system
[14:47] <_joey> the botton panel is reversed. meny is on the right, keyboard, time icons on the left
[14:48] <_joey> the network applet disappeared for 3G
[14:48] <_joey> I cannot use internet anymore
[14:48] <_joey> pathetic
[14:51] <Mikaela> Network applet is known issue and there is workaround to run nm-applet as root.
[14:52] <Mikaela>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxpanel/+bug/1308348
[14:52] <Mikaela> Others are unfamiliar to me.
[14:55] <jared> _joey: bearing in mind if you've heavily customised your system (as you've mentioned previously to support out of date packages) you might run in to a lot more issues than a normal installation.
[14:57] <jared> _joey: to try and reset the panel there are some instructions here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[14:57] <_joey> it wasn't heavily customised at all
[14:58] <_joey> what do I do with network applet?
[14:58] <jared> As for the network applet the fix Mikaela suggested might help with the internet issues as well
[14:59] <_joey> Change owner:group to the local account from root.
[14:59] <jared> _joey: short version, it's installed just isn't currently autostarting on boot for some reason. If you type "gksu nm-applet" into a terminal it should appear for that session
[14:59] <_joey> for panels
[14:59] <_joey> that i copied from root to ~
[15:01] <_joey> so Mikaela network settings indicator cannot fixed?
[15:01] <Mikaela> _joey: try alt+f2 and type "nm-applet"
[15:01] <jared> _joey: the network settings issue is a known bug that they're working on. For now that command will get it to work until they have the bug resolved
[15:02] <_joey> what command will get it?
[15:02] <_joey> i don't you what you are saying
[15:02]  * _joey is frastrated
[15:02] <_joey> sorry
[15:04] <jared> _joey: for the network manager issue type "gksu nm-applet" into a termina
[15:05] <jared> _joey: for your panel issue try the instructions at the link http://askubuntu.com/questions/64631/how-to-restore-the-default-lubuntu-panel
[15:05] <_joey>  gksu nm-applet did nothing
[15:07] <_joey> this is unbelievable
[15:08] <Mikaela> "nm-applet" without quotes worked for me without gksu.
[15:08] <_joey> what exactly 'works' mean in the context?
[15:08] <jmoseman01> hey
[15:08] <Mikaela> nm-applet
[15:09] <_joey> the command 'nm-applet' just sits in the terminal
[15:09] <Mikaela> I typed that to ALT+F2 and then the indicator appeared to the corner.
[15:09] <jmoseman01> I'm trying to make lxde my default on my server how do I do that
[15:09] <jmoseman01> it's ubuntu before
[15:09] <jmoseman01> ubuntu with unity
[15:09] <_joey> it's not appearing for me. Ethernet and wifi appeared but the 3G hasn't
[15:09] <jmoseman01> unity > lxde default?
[15:10] <_joey> jare and Mikaela thanks
[15:10] <_joey> i will be in a sec
[15:10] <Mikaela> _joey: Try right clicking it.
[15:12] <jmoseman01> Mikaela:  do you know how to set up lxde as the default desktop environment on ubuntu
[15:12] <jmoseman01> ?
[15:13] <Mikaela> Sorry, I don't know, but someone else might.
[15:13] <jmoseman01> do you know who to ask?
[15:14] <jmoseman01> do you know the command to launch it?
[15:15] <_joey> Mikaela and jared thanks! I fixed both problems
[15:16] <Mikaela> You're welcome :)
[15:17] <_joey> I had setxkbmap -option grp:alt_shift_toggle in ~/.xsessionrc
[15:17] <Mikaela> jmoseman01: I'm not sure but if someone knows, they will probably tell you. startx starts x at least, but I'm not sure about specifying lxde.
[15:17] <_joey> it no longer works. I need to execute the command manually
[15:21] <jmoseman01> mikaela:  I'm on ubuntu using unity but I have lxde installed
[15:21] <jmoseman01> Mikaela:  I need to figure out how to set lxde to default
[15:27] <wxl> jmoseman01: i bet #ubuntu would be of better help there. i know how to change your window manager in lxde, but ubuntu is a different ball of wax.
[15:33] <jared> _joey: glad to hear it worked out :)
[15:35] <jared> jmoseman01: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM#Change_the_Default_Session should be a good start to help you out
[16:03] <MajB> Thanks to any and all who made Lubuntu 14.04 possible.  Just downloaded it in 16 minutes.  We shall see how the first LTS version does.
[16:17] <UrielVigilant> I can t put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7276838/
[16:22] <UrielVigilant> help me put my BCM 4311 working with Lubuntu 14.04, this use to work with Lubuntu 13.10 or Ubuntu13.10 but not with 14.04 why ? http://paste.ubuntu.
[16:26] <holstein> !broadcom | UrielVigilant
[16:26] <holstein> ubottu: you can use the main #ubuntu support since this is not particularly lubuntu or lxde related
[16:26] <holstein> UrielVigilant: ^
[16:28] <UrielVigilant> holstein
[17:07] <zooko> Hey folks, I've installed Lubuntu 14.04 (actually a pre-release from a few days before the release), and I can't find a control to turn on wifi or select a wifi network.
[17:16] <nosmelc> How do I change the Digital Clock to 12-hour display format?
[17:16] <zooko> Oh, running nm-applet fixed my problem.
[17:23] <kosaid> hey
[17:24] <kosaid> does anyone kno how to turn off energy saving , i;ve tried many things bt still not work
[17:42] <UrielVigilant> command line to install xlstproc on lubuntu , i cant find it on software apps ...
[18:14] <nosmelc> How do I change the Digital Clock to 12-hour display format?
[18:16] <ianorlin> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/CustomizingTheClock
[18:17] <ianorlin> you can right click on the clock and hit digital clock settings
[18:18] <ianorlin> then in the clock settings you could make it %I:%m in the string for the clock which would be the hour followed by minutes
[18:20] <nosmelc> ianorlin: thanks!
[19:41] <zooko> Does anyone here know why nm-applet doesn't start by default in my new Lubuntu 14.04?
[19:41] <zooko> I have to run "nm-applet" from the terminal before I have the ability to view or change wifi networks.
[19:41] <wxl> zooko: known bug. it's in the release notes.
[19:42] <wxl> !bug 1308348
[19:42] <zooko> wxl: thanks!
[19:42] <wxl> wxl: np
[19:44] <zooko> Next question: how do I tell grub to install into /dev/sda or /dev/sda1 instead of into the device that / is currently mounted on: /dev/sda5?
[19:46] <zooko>  Or conversely, how to tell the "refind" boot manager for EFI to look in /dev/sda5 for kernels to boot.
[19:52] <zooko> Hm, in fact I think I really need the former, because /dev/sda5 has btrfs on it, so refind and grub aren't going to know how to boot from it.
[19:52]  * zooko join #ubuntu-installer
[20:06] <zooko> Hm, oh yeah and Network Manager often fails for me in a mysterious way which means I just can't associate with any wifis, and the workaround is to uninstall it and use wicd instead.
[20:06] <zooko> I remember that now.
[20:06] <zooko> Now that I'm stuck, with no wifi and no copy of wicd. :-)
[20:08] <zooko> Hm, maybe if I reinstall lubuntu 14.04 and tell it to use /dev/sda1 mounted on "/boot" then I won't have this problem with refind not being able to boot it ...
[20:44] <nosmelc> Will there be any difference between upgrading to 14.04 and doing a fresh reinstall using 14.04?
[20:44] <ianorlinlaptop> fresh reinstall will only have options on the disk while upgrading will have other things you have installed also get upgraded but that can make it take longer
[20:45] <ianorlinlaptop> as you have to download new versions for trusty in upgrade
[21:16] <llogiq> hi folks.
[21:17] <Mikaela> Hi
[21:17] <llogiq> Hooray for 14.04. (I'm using it since beta2 arrived and I got my new notebook)
[21:18] <llogiq> Strange thing is that nm-applet does no longer show up since two days ago.
[21:18] <llogiq> When I start it manually, it works.
[21:18] <llogiq> Perhaps something broke my autostart settings?
[21:19] <wxl> !bug 1308348 | llogiq
[21:19] <wxl> read: known issue. in fact it's in the release notes.
[21:19] <llogiq> wxl, thanks.
[21:23] <llogiq> I guess I can wait for the official fix to arrive. Strange thing though.
[21:23] <llogiq> Laterz.
[23:38] <logis> can someone help me? how to set resolution 1366x 768 (lubuntu 14.04)
[23:50] <koell> logis: i think right click on desktop
[23:52] <logis> the option only 1024x768
[23:52] <koell> u may need some additional driver i think.
[23:53] <logis> mine is old there's no additional driver
[23:53] <logis> logis@ubuntu:~$ lspci | grep VGA
[23:53] <logis> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV280 [Radeon 9200] (rev 01)