[03:10] <bzoltan> mhall119: no, in the Projects -> Desktop -> Run -> Add deploy step. But you d not need this if you use the latest SDK from 14.04
[03:13] <mhall119> bzoltan: I'm on the latest SDK from 14.04...
[03:14] <mhall119> that fixed it
[03:15] <mhall119> kind of
[03:15] <bzoltan> mhall119: Then I do not know... I just opened a new project from the templates (extension lib + Tabbed UI) with Desktop target as default and hit the green rectangle... the app builds and shows up
[03:15] <mhall119> setting the binary as a deploy step makes it run, but then after I close it it says the same error
[03:15] <mhall119> bzoltan: I'm trying it on Trojita, which is a C++ app with QML UI
[03:16] <mhall119> so I have a 'trojita-ubu' binary
[03:16] <bzoltan> mhall119:  I am trying the same
[03:16] <mhall119> which is listed and selected as a run configuration in Projects -> Desktop -> Run
[03:18] <bzoltan> mhall119: Let me try it
[03:19] <bzoltan> mhall119:  today is not the best day :) everybody is off in Europe
[03:20] <mhall119> bzoltan: IT'S 23:20 for me anyway
[03:21] <bzoltan> mhall119:  oh man, it is still yesterday for you...
[03:21] <bzoltan> mhall119:  this trojita builds slow... still 78%
[03:22] <mhall119> it's a bit slow when you build it all, yeah
[03:23] <mhall119> anyway, I'll talk to you in 8-9 hours
[03:27] <bzoltan> mhall119:  cheers, I will check it out and try to talk to zbenjamin too
[04:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://youtu.be/yQkI1a5tdgw?t=1m43s Party party party
[04:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> opps
[04:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> ignore that
[07:04] <justCarakas> Good morning
[07:08] <Anki> hello every one.
[07:09] <Anki> i am a php web developer.
[07:09] <Anki> now i want to get into the ubuntu phone htm5 app development
[07:13] <justCarakas> Anki: nice :) welcome
[07:14] <Anki> thanks!
[07:15] <Anki> i want some some help regarding installtion of ubuntu sdk
[07:16] <justCarakas> Anki: what help do you need
[07:17] <Anki> i am unable to install ubuntu sdk, an errror comes with you have broken pakages.
[07:18] <Anki> error displayed here it is
[07:18] <Anki> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk
[07:18] <Anki> Reading package lists... Done
[07:18] <Anki> Building dependency tree
[07:18] <Anki> Reading state information... Done
[07:18] <Anki> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
[07:18] <Anki> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
[07:18] <Anki> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
[07:18] <Anki> or been moved out of Incoming.
[07:18] <Anki> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
[07:18] <Anki> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:18] <Anki>  ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container but it is not going to be installed
[07:18] <Anki> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[07:18] <justCarakas> did you add the ppa
[07:18] <Anki> ppa no
[07:19] <justCarakas> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa
[07:19] <justCarakas> sudo apt-get update
[07:19] <justCarakas> this might do the trick
[07:20] <justCarakas> description can be found here
[07:20] <justCarakas> http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/installing-the-sdk/
[07:21] <Anki> on update its showing this error
[07:21] <Anki> W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:21] <Anki> W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[07:21] <Anki> W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release
[07:21] <Anki> W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[07:22] <justCarakas> hmm =s
[07:23] <Anki> how could i get out of this
[07:24] <justCarakas> does sudo apt-get update --fix-missing work ?
[07:25] <Anki> yes it did.
[07:25] <Anki> but in the end i showed the above displayed error message
[07:25] <justCarakas> hmm
[07:26] <justCarakas> Anki: sorry I dced
[07:27] <justCarakas> sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5
[07:27] <justCarakas> and than try thr sudo apt-get update again
[07:28] <justCarakas> brb
[07:31] <Anki> its is still showing the same.
[07:32] <Anki> is it internal problem with my distribution ubuntu 13.04 raring desktop
[07:33] <justCarakas> I dont know
[07:33] <justCarakas> btw any reason you haven't upgraded to 13.10 or now 14.04 ?
[07:34] <justCarakas> I ran out of idea's, maybe try to google it and see if you can find something there
[07:34] <justCarakas> Im also not on ubuntu atm so its hard to test things
[07:36] <Anki> actually on upgrade i have to re install, all my packages algain
[07:36] <Anki> n reconfigure them too
[07:37] <justCarakas> if I remembered correcty you can also upgrade and than reenable your ppa's afterwards
[07:38] <Anki> okay!
[07:38] <justCarakas> first to 13.10 i think and than to 14.04
[07:38] <Anki> so should i upgrade to 14.04
[07:38] <Anki> it is beta version
[07:38] <justCarakas> no it released yesterday :)
[07:39] <Anki> oh! thanks
[07:39] <justCarakas> I'm running it on my laptop
[07:39] <Anki> i should go with this first
[07:39] <Anki> well, temme one more thing.
[07:40] <justCarakas> maybe upgrading will solve the problem (not sure if the suport was only 9 months or not
[07:43] <Anki> i want my carrier with ubuntu web/app development, so what preparation or what thing i should do for the same.
[07:43] <Anki> it need a proper planning.
[07:44] <Anki> if you please give  me a way, or direction.
[07:44] <Anki> i am very desperate towards this.
[07:45] <justCarakas> Anki: I don't really get it
[07:48] <Anki> in simple words, i want to work for ubuntu app development, and then the concern thing is earning. how could i do this.
[07:50] <justCarakas> ow, well, at the moment you can only have free apps, I'm not sure but maybe you can try something like adds or in app purchaces, but you xwould have to check that
[07:53] <Anki> okay! thank you very much for your precious time.
[07:53] <Anki> nice to meet you.
[07:53] <justCarakas> Anki: no problemo :) nice to meet you 2
[07:54] <justCarakas> I hope you get your problem solved
[08:12] <DanChapman> good morning
[09:10] <Aki-Thinkpad> I got chat banned from a mod who didn't identify himself as an op in #ubuntu for suggesting that a fresh install of 14.04 is safer than doing an upgrade... That really leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
[09:11] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: wow, thats stupid, without a warning ?
[09:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, he warned, but he didnt identify himself as an OP, so it just seemed like a person with a different opinion
[09:12] <justCarakas> :s
[09:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> Now, it may be true, and I am willing to correct myself that lts to lts upgrades are perfectly safe
[09:12] <justCarakas> kinda sad to get banned for forming an opinion
[09:12] <justCarakas> but I upgraded to 14.04 and it was actually really smooth
[09:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, I believe you
[09:13] <Aki-Thinkpad> and I believed him
[09:13] <justCarakas> dutchuss2016
[09:13] <justCarakas> 11:12:22
[09:13] <justCarakas> I just updated ubuntu and now it wont start :p
[09:13] <justCarakas> :p was mine
[09:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> but in pm'ing he basically accused me that the only reason why I had a bad opinion of upgrades was from other users, or from the old days in windows.
[09:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, o_O
[09:14] <Aki-Thinkpad> that doesn't sound smooth :P
[09:14] <justCarakas> altough that might also be about skype :p
[09:14] <justCarakas> yea skype, sorry wasn't clear at first :p
[09:15] <justCarakas> but I do wonder how smooth 12.04 to 14.04 is
 Alright, I am willing to listen, but it does not make sense; why would 13.10 not be good, but 12.04 be alright?
 it does not make sense to me*
 And when it comes to my experiences where I have suffered terrible instability issues from doing upgrades, destroying the UI and what not,
 you're repeating what you've heard others say then
[09:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> okay, end rant
[09:16] <justCarakas> wow, that didn't sound like ranting
[09:16] <justCarakas> maybe try to get hold of an other admin
 ... how long is my ban for?
 come to #ubuntu-ops in 24h
[09:17] <Aki-Thinkpad> they need to put a factoid in the ubottu
[09:18] <Aki-Thinkpad> because I know even canonical employees have said that upgrading is not perfect, and so I am astonished to hear that it is against the rules to suggest that an upgrade is not always perfectly fine from lts to lts.
[09:19] <Aki-Thinkpad> anyways, ot. Sorry folks. I just needed to vent >:/
[09:20] <justCarakas> no problem, the economy used to run on steam :p
[10:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, I just got that joke.
[10:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> I can't get < to display in richtext
[10:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> I tried doing \<, but it didnt work
[10:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> any ideas?
[11:01] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: whats up
[11:02] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: took you a long time :p
[11:02] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: \'3c
[11:02] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/programming/microsoft-office/9781449302047/reference-tables/ascii-rtf_character_chart
[11:03] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, heh
[11:11] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: does it work ?
[11:15] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, nope
[11:15] <Aki-Thinkpad> it outputs '3c
[11:15] <justCarakas> hmm :s
[11:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> and \\< outputs \
[11:16] <justCarakas> what are you working on Aki-Thinkpad
[11:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, an apl calculator. The < sign is a primative
[11:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am using a rich text box to give an explanation
[11:16] <Aki-Thinkpad> here, screenshot...
[11:19] <justCarakas> Aki-Thinkpad: &lt; already tried this one ?
[11:20] <Aki-Thinkpad> http://imagebin.org/306281
[11:20] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, nope, I'll give it a shot
[11:21] <Aki-Thinkpad> nope, just outputs as &lt
[11:21] <justCarakas> and \R/RTF'\f6\fs18\u8804\3'
[11:22] <justCarakas> or maybe just a part from that
[11:23] <justCarakas> if that doesn't work, im out of ideas
[11:25] <tech> hi, is there anyone italian?
[11:26] <zbenjamin> mhall119: here?
[11:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> !italian
[11:27] <ubot2> Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)
[11:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> tech, ^
[11:27] <tech> ok, bye
[11:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> good luck tech :)
[11:28] <tech> .)
[11:28] <tech> :)
[11:28] <Aki-Thinkpad> lol
[11:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, o_O  file:///home/akiva/Programming/Logic Calculator/Logic-Calculator/Logic-Calculator.qml:794 Unexpected token `'
[11:30] <Aki-Thinkpad> file:///home/akiva/Programming/Logic Calculator/Logic-Calculator/Logic-Calculator.qml:794 Expected token `)'
[11:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> its not letting me run it :P
[11:31] <Aki-Thinkpad> what voodoo is this?
[11:43] <justCarakas> autch
[12:07] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: mhall119 had problem (and me too) to run the trojita app from the qtc
[12:08] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: yeah because QtC does not realize that trojita is a Click App
[12:08] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I mean that it does not run on the desktop
[12:08] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  local build, local run
[12:08] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: oh, thats weird
[12:09] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: does it work if you disable the ubuntu plugin?
[12:09] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: disable ubuntu plugin, remove user file and reload the project
[12:09] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  it says "no executable specified"
[12:12] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  similar problem .. the "run configuration" is not trojita
[12:13] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  so it needs the run configuration to be set to trojita
[12:15] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: hmm yeah, there is no way to tell QtC to prefer a runconfig, all we could do is use a QTimer::singleShot() to set the runconfig when the control goes back to the eventloop
[12:15] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  strange that the runconfig with the same name as the project is not the default
[12:16] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: yeah it works like that: you can register RunConfiguration factories, QtC will iterate over them and asks each of them if it can provide a runconfig for the current project
[12:16] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: first come first serve
[12:17] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: i guess we can't go around providing our own project type as we discussed with the mime magic string
[12:17] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I see
[12:17] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: its too much hacking
[12:17] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: hacking as in workarounds :/
[12:17] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  LOL
[12:19] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  this trojita is a good test app... the chroot build failed
[12:19] <bzoltan> :-1: error: No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[12:19] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: i would suggest to first create a custom project type for us, maybe we can require some module to be included, then we can query the project file for the magic string and handle everything ourselves
[12:19] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  I would suggest to see why trojita does not build :)
[12:20] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  ehhh... ignore me, my chroot ust miss tons of deps
[12:21] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: lol ;)
[12:21] <zbenjamin> just wanted to start up QtC
[12:21] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  Qt QTWEBKIT library not found. Qt QTGUI library not found. Qt QTTEST library not found. Qt QTSQL library not found. Qt QTNETWORK library not found. Qt QTCORE library not found.
[12:21] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: wtf, did you enable the ubuntu build?
[12:22] <zbenjamin> -DWITH_UBUNTU=on
[12:22] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: otherwise it tries to build some Qt4 app ;)
[12:23] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  good hint... I missed that.
[12:23] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  now it started to build... I am motivated :) I want an IMAP client on the device ....
[12:24] <justCarakas> do we get an IMAP client ? :D WHOOT WHOOT
[12:24] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: that would be awesome
[12:24] <DanChapman> bzoltan smtp support should be working by early next week
[12:24] <justCarakas> if you where on the trusty devel branch, will you still get updates ?
[12:24] <bzoltan> justCarakas: yes, that is what we are building right now ..
[12:25] <bzoltan> DanChapman:  cool... I need that one too :)
[12:25] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: i could use some hiking app, there is maep-qt for sailfish that can show tiled maps and load tracks. Would be interesting to port it, but not with my device ;)
[12:25]  * DanChapman is working as fast as he can
[12:25] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  for me the ad-hoc wlan access point is the show starter ...
[12:25] <zbenjamin> DanChapman: go go go :)
[12:26] <DanChapman> hah :-)
[12:26] <bzoltan> DanChapman:  push it, dude, push it :)
[12:26] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: we have ad hoc wlan?
[12:26] <bzoltan> zbenjamin:  not as I know... but I need that
[12:26] <zbenjamin> bzoltan: yes, sailfish has it now too
[12:27] <bzoltan> zbenjamin: I know.. and it is even a real infrastructure wlan what creates
[12:27] <justCarakas> anybody else also having this problem ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1309042
[12:27] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Undecided,New]
[12:35] <pmcgowan> justCarakas, pretty sure thats known and tbd
[12:44] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, is the ubuntu-sdk package in the release ppa?
[12:46] <Neo31> I still have another problem installing ubuntu-emulator pmcgowan
[12:46] <pmcgowan> Neo31, ok whats that
[12:46] <Neo31> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275350/
[12:47] <pmcgowan> thats odd, one sec
[12:48] <pmcgowan> Neo31, what does apt-cache policy ubuntu-emulator-runtime say
[12:48] <Neo31> pmcgowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275357/
[12:49] <pmcgowan> offs
[12:49] <pmcgowan> its in multiverse
[12:49] <Neo31> ok gotcha
[12:49] <pmcgowan> man docs need updating
[12:49] <pmcgowan> mhall119, hey, we need to update the sdk install page, its busted
[12:51] <Neo31> still cannot install pmcgowan : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275382/
[12:51] <pmcgowan> Neo31, did you rerun apt-get update?
[12:51] <pmcgowan> I see it there for sure
[12:51] <Neo31> ok let me clean the cache
[12:52] <pmcgowan> just sudo apt-get update should fix it
[12:52] <pmcgowan> if you entered the repo name correctly
[12:52] <Neo31> I have added this line : deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse
[12:52] <Neo31> apt-get clean then update then install
[12:54] <pmcgowan> ok
[12:54] <Neo31> ubuntu-emulator is available but a dependency is missing (ubuntu-emulator-runtime)
[12:54] <Neo31> brb
[12:56] <Neo31> pmcgowan: maybe the ubuntu-emulator-runtime is in a missing repository!?
[12:57] <pmcgowan> its only built for i386
[12:57] <pmcgowan> let me find some guys
[12:57] <pmcgowan> not right
[12:57] <Neo31> ok i will try to install i386 deps
[12:57] <pmcgowan> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/android/
[12:59] <Neo31> i see, so the solution is to work on a 32bit system or to find a workaround (maybe by installing some 32bit libs?)
[12:59] <pmcgowan> Neo31, but thats busted, I am trying to find the devs
[13:00] <pmcgowan> I know folks are running on 64bbit
[13:00] <pmcgowan> problem is everyone is on good friday holiday
[13:00] <Neo31> yep that's it. This is for an app dev workshop I am preparing for tomorrow.
[13:00] <pmcgowan> oh crap
[13:00] <Neo31> I see
[13:01] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, zbenjamin you guys still around?
[13:01] <Neo31> I tried few days ago, but since I was on an early daily build live DVD i thought things will be good today after the final release.
[13:02] <pmcgowan> it should have been fine all along
[13:02] <pmcgowan> I happen to have 32 bit here for no good reason ;(
[13:02] <Neo31> but the critical part is ubuntu-sdk and that is alreay solved :) thanks to you pmcgowan
[13:02] <pmcgowan> good
[13:03] <pmcgowan> Neo31, someone is sure to pop online, so maybe check back later
[13:03] <Neo31> i will pmcgowan :)
[13:04] <pmcgowan> day after release, no one around :)
[13:04] <Neo31> I might need to restart once or twice to boot my main os or another live cd
[13:05] <Neo31> just a little question pmcgowan
[13:06] <Neo31> I think the emulator is i386 anyway and there should be some ia32 thing for 32bit compatibility.
[13:06] <pmcgowan> right, I suspect the dependency is wrong maybe, and it should pull it in after install
[13:06] <Neo31> shouldn't the 64bit package dependency be changed to meet these needs instead of missing a non existing 64 bit package?
[13:06] <pmcgowan> right
[13:06] <pmcgowan> thats what I dont understand
[13:07] <Neo31> I will check that later on IRC and if this is what should happen I will fire a bug for the package maintainer
[13:07] <Neo31> thanks for helping pmcgowan
[13:07] <Neo31> have a good day :)
[13:08] <pmcgowan> ok ttyl
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> justCarakas, BTW, your solution did work, but I put it in wrong. I didnt realize that ; was needed
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> !cookie justCarakas
[13:37] <ubot2> Aki-Thinkpad: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> !cookie
[13:37] <ubot2> Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> :)
[13:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> hey I am having trouble with this html table I put in. I can't make the first column smaller with a line break, and so I get diverging formatting. http://imagebin.org/306303
[13:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> see how the right app, there is little space between the columns, where as on the left, there is quite a bit?
[13:56] <Aki-Thinkpad> I tried manually setting the column width with html table params, but that didnt work
[14:07] <Aki-Thinkpad> width="70%"  in the td cell :)
[14:14] <mhall119> pmcgowan: /Touch/Install?
[14:20] <pmcgowan> mhall119, hi, no the sdk install page
[14:20] <pmcgowan> mhall119, it doesn't work for trusty at all, since ubuntu-sdk is not from the PPA
[14:20] <popey> pmcgowan: whats wrong with the emulator?
[14:20] <pmcgowan> its from universe (today anyway)
[14:21] <pmcgowan> popey, I suspect nothing, he must have added the multiverse repo incorrectly
[14:21] <popey> multiverse is on by default, has been for ages
[14:21] <pmcgowan> dunno then
[14:21] <pmcgowan> he probably had a customer list
[14:21] <pmcgowan> mhall119, popey also, we should add instructions for emulator on the sdk install page?
[14:22] <popey> pmcgowan: not just emulator, click-reviewers-tools too
[14:22] <popey> IMO the emulator should come with the sdk, not be separate
[14:22] <pmcgowan> not sure
[14:22] <pmcgowan> its a monster
[14:22] <popey> is it?
[14:22] <popey> Size: 1659916
[14:22] <popey> Size: 8935370
[14:22] <popey> hm, okay
[14:23] <popey> Size: 40343310
[14:23] <pmcgowan> but should be easy to get from qtc
[14:23] <pmcgowan> not sure we did that yet
[14:23] <pmcgowan> anyway he tried to apt-get the sdk and it didnt work, I guess becuase he turned of universe and multiverse
[14:23] <pmcgowan> I thought one needed to enable those, no?
[14:23] <pmcgowan> been so long since I clean installed
[14:24] <popey> ubuntu-sdk is in universe
[14:24] <pmcgowan> yeah I know
[14:24] <pmcgowan> is it on in new installs?
[14:24] <popey> they're on by default in new installs yes
[14:24] <pmcgowan> popey, ok, I thought not
[14:24] <pmcgowan> so maybe docs are fine
[14:26] <mhall119> pmcgowan: bzoltan: should we tell Trusty users to use the archive version instead of the PPA version of the SDK?
[14:27] <popey> i thought we decided to use the ppa always, so we can deliver updates quickly
[14:27] <mhall119> that's what I thought too
[14:27] <pmcgowan> right we did
[14:27] <pmcgowan> but today at least the PPA has no trusty version of ubuntu-sdk
[14:28] <mhall119> bzoltan: ^^ why doesn't it?
[14:28] <pmcgowan> mhall119, I think everyone is holidaze today
[14:28] <pmcgowan> but I dont see one
[14:29] <zbenjamin> pmcgowan: now back
[14:30] <pmcgowan> mhall119, I assume all the other packages are in the ppa for trusty
[14:30] <pmcgowan> just the meta is not, but it should be now forward
[14:30] <pmcgowan> zbenjamin, was trying to help a dev earlier but he's gone now
[14:30] <pmcgowan> zbenjamin, just noticed the release ppa does not have a ubuntu-sdk package for trusty
[14:32] <popey> does it need it?
[14:32] <popey> i mean, whether you add the ppa or not, if you then "apt-get install ubuntu-sdk" you'll get the sdk..
[14:34] <zbenjamin> pmcgowan: zoltan is handling the ppa usually
[14:34] <pmcgowan> popey, right, it only needs it if the meta info changes
[14:35] <pmcgowan> popey, I was concerned we needed to tell folks to enable universe and multiverse but you clarified that for me
[15:32] <bzoltan> pmcgowan: because Trusty has the trusty version
[15:32] <bzoltan> mhall119: ^^
[15:32] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, right, so its ok today but at some point may be needed in the ppa
[15:33] <bzoltan> pmcgowan: when the U is open and when we start to push to U our changes I will backport to the T in the PPA
[15:33] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, instructions "imply" the sdk ppa is all thats required to install, the dev had removed universe from is sources list
[15:33] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, vg
[15:33] <bzoltan> pmcgowan:  I did not not backport to S beacuse the Qt5.2 packages are missing
[15:33] <pmcgowan> ok
[15:34] <pmcgowan> well, we should support S and T
[15:34] <pmcgowan> bzoltan, I think we agreed to target last release and last LTS
[15:51] <camron> If I wanted to use a c/c++ lib, I would have to create a qml wrapper?
[16:24] <bzoltan> pmcgowan:  Yes, the S backporting is going to happen when Mirv has time to backport the Qt5.2 dependencies
[19:06] <pmcgowan> mhall119, still about?
[19:06] <pmcgowan> do we have docs on how to make a webapps on d.u.c?
[19:06] <pmcgowan> nm
[19:07] <pmcgowan> ah we do but its outdated
[19:15] <mhall119> yeah, it hasn't been updated in a while
[19:15] <mhall119> and since Unity8 doesn't support it yet anyway, it hasn't been a big concern
[19:16] <pmcgowan> mhall119, but no way for folks to know how to make one for phone?
[19:16] <pmcgowan> how are they working it out?
[19:16] <pmcgowan> like how to use the container?
[19:42] <mhall119> pmcgowan: oh, you mean create a click package for a website?
[19:42] <pmcgowan> you're back
[19:42] <mhall119> I thought you meant the webapps integration, which is what is on developer.u.c right now
[19:42] <pmcgowan> yeah
[19:43] <pmcgowan> well both but right now for touch
[19:43] <mhall119> I don't think we have anything for that, since it's mostly creating a .desktop with the right webbrowser-app flags in the Exec= line
[19:43] <mhall119> alex_abreu: do you know if we have anymore info that that?
[19:44] <pmcgowan> mhall119, one of the devs converted a qml webview to webapp but he did it wrong, thats why I asked
[19:44] <pmcgowan> I am jutst trying to copy the others but having some issues
[19:47] <mhall119> right, we need to put something up, we just don't have it atm
[19:49] <pmcgowan> mhall119, ok, would take much
[19:49] <pmcgowan> er would not
[19:49] <pmcgowan> mhall119, so my webapp isnt running and I cant figure out why
[20:07] <mhall119> pmcgowan: pastebin your .desktop and manifest.json please
[20:07] <mhall119> apparmor .json too
[20:09] <pmcgowan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278458/
[20:09] <pmcgowan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278459/
[20:09] <pmcgowan> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278461/
[20:09] <pmcgowan> trying to help adrian with his app
[20:09] <pmcgowan> but I just get black screen
[20:10] <pmcgowan> well my url pattern is wrong but thats not it
[20:10] <Neo31> pmcgowan, i was able to install ubuntu-emulator trusty 64bit (this time from an installed system not a live system)
[20:11] <pmcgowan> Neo31, ok good, yeha it should have worked
[20:11] <mhall119> hmm, everything looks in order
[20:11] <pmcgowan> so it seems to me too
[20:11] <mhall119> jdstrand: is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278461/ using the right apparmor template for a webapp?
[20:11] <pmcgowan> let me fix that url
[20:13] <pmcgowan> mhall119, is there a way to clear out all of the files for an installed app?
[20:15] <pmcgowan> uninstall seems to clean up
[20:35] <mhall119> click unregister
[20:35] <mhall119> should do it
[20:52] <pmcgowan> thanks mhall119