[03:10] mhall119: no, in the Projects -> Desktop -> Run -> Add deploy step. But you d not need this if you use the latest SDK from 14.04 [03:13] bzoltan: I'm on the latest SDK from 14.04... [03:14] that fixed it [03:15] kind of [03:15] mhall119: Then I do not know... I just opened a new project from the templates (extension lib + Tabbed UI) with Desktop target as default and hit the green rectangle... the app builds and shows up [03:15] setting the binary as a deploy step makes it run, but then after I close it it says the same error [03:15] bzoltan: I'm trying it on Trojita, which is a C++ app with QML UI [03:16] so I have a 'trojita-ubu' binary [03:16] mhall119: I am trying the same [03:16] which is listed and selected as a run configuration in Projects -> Desktop -> Run [03:18] mhall119: Let me try it [03:19] mhall119: today is not the best day :) everybody is off in Europe [03:20] bzoltan: IT'S 23:20 for me anyway [03:21] mhall119: oh man, it is still yesterday for you... [03:21] mhall119: this trojita builds slow... still 78% [03:22] it's a bit slow when you build it all, yeah [03:23] anyway, I'll talk to you in 8-9 hours [03:27] mhall119: cheers, I will check it out and try to talk to zbenjamin too [04:13] http://youtu.be/yQkI1a5tdgw?t=1m43s Party party party [04:14] opps [04:14] ignore that === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === Guest60783 is now known as hiddenbacon [07:04] Good morning [07:08] hello every one. [07:09] i am a php web developer. [07:09] now i want to get into the ubuntu phone htm5 app development [07:13] Anki: nice :) welcome [07:14] thanks! [07:15] i want some some help regarding installtion of ubuntu sdk [07:16] Anki: what help do you need [07:17] i am unable to install ubuntu sdk, an errror comes with you have broken pakages. [07:18] error displayed here it is [07:18] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sdk [07:18] Reading package lists... Done [07:18] Building dependency tree [07:18] Reading state information... Done [07:18] Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have [07:18] requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable [07:18] distribution that some required packages have not yet been created [07:18] or been moved out of Incoming. [07:18] The following information may help to resolve the situation: [07:18] The following packages have unmet dependencies: [07:18] ubuntu-sdk : Depends: ubuntu-html5-container but it is not going to be installed [07:18] E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. [07:18] did you add the ppa [07:18] ppa no [07:19] sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa [07:19] sudo apt-get update [07:19] this might do the trick [07:20] description can be found here [07:20] http://developer.ubuntu.com/apps/sdk/tutorials/installing-the-sdk/ [07:21] on update its showing this error [07:21] W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://extras.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 16126D3A3E5C1192 Ubuntu Extras Archive Automatic Signing Key [07:21] W: GPG error: http://in.archive.ubuntu.com raring Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key [07:21] W: Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/Release [07:21] W: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. [07:22] hmm =s [07:23] how could i get out of this [07:24] does sudo apt-get update --fix-missing work ? [07:25] yes it did. [07:25] but in the end i showed the above displayed error message [07:25] hmm [07:26] Anki: sorry I dced [07:27] sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 40976EAF437D05B5 [07:27] and than try thr sudo apt-get update again [07:28] brb [07:31] its is still showing the same. [07:32] is it internal problem with my distribution ubuntu 13.04 raring desktop [07:33] I dont know [07:33] btw any reason you haven't upgraded to 13.10 or now 14.04 ? [07:34] I ran out of idea's, maybe try to google it and see if you can find something there [07:34] Im also not on ubuntu atm so its hard to test things [07:36] actually on upgrade i have to re install, all my packages algain [07:36] n reconfigure them too [07:37] if I remembered correcty you can also upgrade and than reenable your ppa's afterwards [07:38] okay! [07:38] first to 13.10 i think and than to 14.04 [07:38] so should i upgrade to 14.04 [07:38] it is beta version [07:38] no it released yesterday :) [07:39] oh! thanks [07:39] I'm running it on my laptop [07:39] i should go with this first [07:39] well, temme one more thing. [07:40] maybe upgrading will solve the problem (not sure if the suport was only 9 months or not [07:43] i want my carrier with ubuntu web/app development, so what preparation or what thing i should do for the same. [07:43] it need a proper planning. [07:44] if you please give me a way, or direction. [07:44] i am very desperate towards this. [07:45] Anki: I don't really get it [07:48] in simple words, i want to work for ubuntu app development, and then the concern thing is earning. how could i do this. [07:50] ow, well, at the moment you can only have free apps, I'm not sure but maybe you can try something like adds or in app purchaces, but you xwould have to check that [07:53] okay! thank you very much for your precious time. [07:53] nice to meet you. [07:53] Anki: no problemo :) nice to meet you 2 [07:54] I hope you get your problem solved [08:12] good morning [09:10] I got chat banned from a mod who didn't identify himself as an op in #ubuntu for suggesting that a fresh install of 14.04 is safer than doing an upgrade... That really leaves a bad taste in my mouth. [09:11] Aki-Thinkpad: wow, thats stupid, without a warning ? [09:12] justCarakas, he warned, but he didnt identify himself as an OP, so it just seemed like a person with a different opinion [09:12] :s [09:12] Now, it may be true, and I am willing to correct myself that lts to lts upgrades are perfectly safe [09:12] kinda sad to get banned for forming an opinion [09:12] but I upgraded to 14.04 and it was actually really smooth [09:13] justCarakas, I believe you [09:13] and I believed him [09:13] dutchuss2016 [09:13] 11:12:22 [09:13] I just updated ubuntu and now it wont start :p [09:13] :p was mine [09:14] but in pm'ing he basically accused me that the only reason why I had a bad opinion of upgrades was from other users, or from the old days in windows. [09:14] justCarakas, o_O [09:14] that doesn't sound smooth :P [09:14] altough that might also be about skype :p [09:14] yea skype, sorry wasn't clear at first :p [09:15] but I do wonder how smooth 12.04 to 14.04 is [09:15]

Alright, I am willing to listen, but it does not make sense; why would 13.10 not be good, but 12.04 be alright? [09:15]

it does not make sense to me* [09:15]

And when it comes to my experiences where I have suffered terrible instability issues from doing upgrades, destroying the UI and what not, [09:15] you're repeating what you've heard others say then [09:16] okay, end rant [09:16] wow, that didn't sound like ranting [09:16] maybe try to get hold of an other admin [09:17]

... how long is my ban for? [09:17] come to #ubuntu-ops in 24h [09:17] they need to put a factoid in the ubottu [09:18] because I know even canonical employees have said that upgrading is not perfect, and so I am astonished to hear that it is against the rules to suggest that an upgrade is not always perfectly fine from lts to lts. [09:19] anyways, ot. Sorry folks. I just needed to vent >:/ [09:20] no problem, the economy used to run on steam :p [10:00] justCarakas, I just got that joke. [10:57] I can't get < to display in richtext [10:57] I tried doing \<, but it didnt work [10:58] any ideas? [11:01] bzoltan: whats up [11:02] Aki-Thinkpad: took you a long time :p [11:02] Aki-Thinkpad: \'3c [11:02] Aki-Thinkpad: http://my.safaribooksonline.com/book/programming/microsoft-office/9781449302047/reference-tables/ascii-rtf_character_chart [11:03] justCarakas, heh [11:11] Aki-Thinkpad: does it work ? [11:15] justCarakas, nope [11:15] it outputs '3c [11:15] hmm :s [11:16] and \\< outputs \ [11:16] what are you working on Aki-Thinkpad [11:16] justCarakas, an apl calculator. The < sign is a primative [11:16] I am using a rich text box to give an explanation [11:16] here, screenshot... [11:19] Aki-Thinkpad: < already tried this one ? [11:20] http://imagebin.org/306281 [11:20] justCarakas, nope, I'll give it a shot [11:21] nope, just outputs as < [11:21] and \R/RTF'\f6\fs18\u8804\3' [11:22] or maybe just a part from that [11:23] if that doesn't work, im out of ideas [11:25] hi, is there anyone italian? [11:26] mhall119: here? [11:27] !italian [11:27] Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette) [11:27] tech, ^ [11:27] ok, bye [11:28] good luck tech :) [11:28] .) [11:28] :) [11:28] lol [11:30] justCarakas, o_O file:///home/akiva/Programming/Logic Calculator/Logic-Calculator/Logic-Calculator.qml:794 Unexpected token `' [11:30] file:///home/akiva/Programming/Logic Calculator/Logic-Calculator/Logic-Calculator.qml:794 Expected token `)' [11:31] its not letting me run it :P [11:31] what voodoo is this? [11:43] autch [12:07] zbenjamin: mhall119 had problem (and me too) to run the trojita app from the qtc [12:08] bzoltan: yeah because QtC does not realize that trojita is a Click App [12:08] zbenjamin: I mean that it does not run on the desktop [12:08] zbenjamin: local build, local run [12:08] bzoltan: oh, thats weird [12:09] bzoltan: does it work if you disable the ubuntu plugin? [12:09] bzoltan: disable ubuntu plugin, remove user file and reload the project [12:09] zbenjamin: it says "no executable specified" [12:12] zbenjamin: similar problem .. the "run configuration" is not trojita [12:13] zbenjamin: so it needs the run configuration to be set to trojita [12:15] bzoltan: hmm yeah, there is no way to tell QtC to prefer a runconfig, all we could do is use a QTimer::singleShot() to set the runconfig when the control goes back to the eventloop [12:15] zbenjamin: strange that the runconfig with the same name as the project is not the default [12:16] bzoltan: yeah it works like that: you can register RunConfiguration factories, QtC will iterate over them and asks each of them if it can provide a runconfig for the current project [12:16] bzoltan: first come first serve [12:17] bzoltan: i guess we can't go around providing our own project type as we discussed with the mime magic string [12:17] zbenjamin: I see [12:17] bzoltan: its too much hacking [12:17] bzoltan: hacking as in workarounds :/ [12:17] zbenjamin: LOL [12:19] zbenjamin: this trojita is a good test app... the chroot build failed [12:19] :-1: error: No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop. [12:19] bzoltan: i would suggest to first create a custom project type for us, maybe we can require some module to be included, then we can query the project file for the magic string and handle everything ourselves [12:19] zbenjamin: I would suggest to see why trojita does not build :) [12:20] zbenjamin: ehhh... ignore me, my chroot ust miss tons of deps [12:21] bzoltan: lol ;) [12:21] just wanted to start up QtC [12:21] zbenjamin: Qt QTWEBKIT library not found. Qt QTGUI library not found. Qt QTTEST library not found. Qt QTSQL library not found. Qt QTNETWORK library not found. Qt QTCORE library not found. [12:21] bzoltan: wtf, did you enable the ubuntu build? [12:22] -DWITH_UBUNTU=on [12:22] bzoltan: otherwise it tries to build some Qt4 app ;) [12:23] zbenjamin: good hint... I missed that. [12:23] zbenjamin: now it started to build... I am motivated :) I want an IMAP client on the device .... [12:24] do we get an IMAP client ? :D WHOOT WHOOT [12:24] bzoltan: that would be awesome [12:24] bzoltan smtp support should be working by early next week [12:24] if you where on the trusty devel branch, will you still get updates ? [12:24] justCarakas: yes, that is what we are building right now .. [12:25] DanChapman: cool... I need that one too :) [12:25] bzoltan: i could use some hiking app, there is maep-qt for sailfish that can show tiled maps and load tracks. Would be interesting to port it, but not with my device ;) [12:25] * DanChapman is working as fast as he can [12:25] zbenjamin: for me the ad-hoc wlan access point is the show starter ... [12:25] DanChapman: go go go :) [12:26] hah :-) [12:26] DanChapman: push it, dude, push it :) [12:26] bzoltan: we have ad hoc wlan? [12:26] zbenjamin: not as I know... but I need that [12:26] bzoltan: yes, sailfish has it now too [12:27] zbenjamin: I know.. and it is even a real infrastructure wlan what creates [12:27] anybody else also having this problem ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-calendar-app/+bug/1309042 [12:27] Launchpad bug 1309042 in Ubuntu Calendar App "Calendar sync only syncs the default calendar" [Undecided,New] [12:35] justCarakas, pretty sure thats known and tbd [12:44] bzoltan, is the ubuntu-sdk package in the release ppa? [12:46] I still have another problem installing ubuntu-emulator pmcgowan [12:46] Neo31, ok whats that [12:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275350/ [12:47] thats odd, one sec [12:48] Neo31, what does apt-cache policy ubuntu-emulator-runtime say [12:48] pmcgowan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275357/ [12:49] offs [12:49] its in multiverse [12:49] ok gotcha [12:49] man docs need updating [12:49] mhall119, hey, we need to update the sdk install page, its busted [12:51] still cannot install pmcgowan : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275382/ [12:51] Neo31, did you rerun apt-get update? [12:51] I see it there for sure [12:51] ok let me clean the cache [12:52] just sudo apt-get update should fix it [12:52] if you entered the repo name correctly [12:52] I have added this line : deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty multiverse [12:52] apt-get clean then update then install [12:54] ok [12:54] ubuntu-emulator is available but a dependency is missing (ubuntu-emulator-runtime) [12:54] brb [12:56] pmcgowan: maybe the ubuntu-emulator-runtime is in a missing repository!? [12:57] its only built for i386 [12:57] let me find some guys [12:57] not right [12:57] ok i will try to install i386 deps [12:57] http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/a/android/ [12:59] i see, so the solution is to work on a 32bit system or to find a workaround (maybe by installing some 32bit libs?) [12:59] Neo31, but thats busted, I am trying to find the devs [13:00] I know folks are running on 64bbit [13:00] problem is everyone is on good friday holiday [13:00] yep that's it. This is for an app dev workshop I am preparing for tomorrow. [13:00] oh crap [13:00] I see [13:01] bzoltan, zbenjamin you guys still around? [13:01] I tried few days ago, but since I was on an early daily build live DVD i thought things will be good today after the final release. [13:02] it should have been fine all along [13:02] I happen to have 32 bit here for no good reason ;( [13:02] but the critical part is ubuntu-sdk and that is alreay solved :) thanks to you pmcgowan [13:02] good [13:03] Neo31, someone is sure to pop online, so maybe check back later [13:03] i will pmcgowan :) [13:04] day after release, no one around :) [13:04] I might need to restart once or twice to boot my main os or another live cd [13:05] just a little question pmcgowan [13:06] I think the emulator is i386 anyway and there should be some ia32 thing for 32bit compatibility. [13:06] right, I suspect the dependency is wrong maybe, and it should pull it in after install [13:06] shouldn't the 64bit package dependency be changed to meet these needs instead of missing a non existing 64 bit package? [13:06] right [13:06] thats what I dont understand [13:07] I will check that later on IRC and if this is what should happen I will fire a bug for the package maintainer [13:07] thanks for helping pmcgowan [13:07] have a good day :) [13:08] ok ttyl [13:37] justCarakas, BTW, your solution did work, but I put it in wrong. I didnt realize that ; was needed [13:37] !cookie justCarakas [13:37] Aki-Thinkpad: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [13:37] !cookie [13:37] Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie! [13:37] :) === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem === lazowik is now known as lazowik|afk [13:55] hey I am having trouble with this html table I put in. I can't make the first column smaller with a line break, and so I get diverging formatting. http://imagebin.org/306303 [13:55] see how the right app, there is little space between the columns, where as on the left, there is quite a bit? [13:56] I tried manually setting the column width with html table params, but that didnt work [14:07] width="70%" in the td cell :) [14:14] pmcgowan: /Touch/Install? [14:20] mhall119, hi, no the sdk install page [14:20] mhall119, it doesn't work for trusty at all, since ubuntu-sdk is not from the PPA [14:20] pmcgowan: whats wrong with the emulator? [14:20] its from universe (today anyway) [14:21] popey, I suspect nothing, he must have added the multiverse repo incorrectly [14:21] multiverse is on by default, has been for ages [14:21] dunno then [14:21] he probably had a customer list [14:21] mhall119, popey also, we should add instructions for emulator on the sdk install page? [14:22] pmcgowan: not just emulator, click-reviewers-tools too [14:22] IMO the emulator should come with the sdk, not be separate [14:22] not sure [14:22] its a monster [14:22] is it? [14:22] Size: 1659916 [14:22] Size: 8935370 [14:22] hm, okay [14:23] Size: 40343310 [14:23] but should be easy to get from qtc [14:23] not sure we did that yet [14:23] anyway he tried to apt-get the sdk and it didnt work, I guess becuase he turned of universe and multiverse [14:23] I thought one needed to enable those, no? [14:23] been so long since I clean installed [14:24] ubuntu-sdk is in universe [14:24] yeah I know [14:24] is it on in new installs? [14:24] they're on by default in new installs yes [14:24] popey, ok, I thought not [14:24] so maybe docs are fine [14:26] pmcgowan: bzoltan: should we tell Trusty users to use the archive version instead of the PPA version of the SDK? [14:27] i thought we decided to use the ppa always, so we can deliver updates quickly [14:27] that's what I thought too [14:27] right we did [14:27] but today at least the PPA has no trusty version of ubuntu-sdk [14:28] bzoltan: ^^ why doesn't it? [14:28] mhall119, I think everyone is holidaze today [14:28] but I dont see one [14:29] pmcgowan: now back [14:30] mhall119, I assume all the other packages are in the ppa for trusty [14:30] just the meta is not, but it should be now forward [14:30] zbenjamin, was trying to help a dev earlier but he's gone now [14:30] zbenjamin, just noticed the release ppa does not have a ubuntu-sdk package for trusty [14:32] does it need it? [14:32] i mean, whether you add the ppa or not, if you then "apt-get install ubuntu-sdk" you'll get the sdk.. [14:34] pmcgowan: zoltan is handling the ppa usually [14:34] popey, right, it only needs it if the meta info changes [14:35] popey, I was concerned we needed to tell folks to enable universe and multiverse but you clarified that for me === lazowik|afk is now known as lazowik [15:32] pmcgowan: because Trusty has the trusty version [15:32] mhall119: ^^ [15:32] bzoltan, right, so its ok today but at some point may be needed in the ppa [15:33] pmcgowan: when the U is open and when we start to push to U our changes I will backport to the T in the PPA [15:33] bzoltan, instructions "imply" the sdk ppa is all thats required to install, the dev had removed universe from is sources list [15:33] bzoltan, vg [15:33] pmcgowan: I did not not backport to S beacuse the Qt5.2 packages are missing [15:33] ok [15:34] well, we should support S and T [15:34] bzoltan, I think we agreed to target last release and last LTS === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk [15:51] If I wanted to use a c/c++ lib, I would have to create a qml wrapper? [16:24] pmcgowan: Yes, the S backporting is going to happen when Mirv has time to backport the Qt5.2 dependencies === bfiller_afk is now known as bfiller === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun === chihchun is now known as chihchun_afk [19:06] mhall119, still about? [19:06] do we have docs on how to make a webapps on d.u.c? [19:06] nm [19:07] ah we do but its outdated [19:15] yeah, it hasn't been updated in a while [19:15] and since Unity8 doesn't support it yet anyway, it hasn't been a big concern [19:16] mhall119, but no way for folks to know how to make one for phone? [19:16] how are they working it out? [19:16] like how to use the container? [19:42] pmcgowan: oh, you mean create a click package for a website? [19:42] you're back [19:42] I thought you meant the webapps integration, which is what is on developer.u.c right now [19:42] yeah [19:43] well both but right now for touch [19:43] I don't think we have anything for that, since it's mostly creating a .desktop with the right webbrowser-app flags in the Exec= line [19:43] alex_abreu: do you know if we have anymore info that that? [19:44] mhall119, one of the devs converted a qml webview to webapp but he did it wrong, thats why I asked [19:44] I am jutst trying to copy the others but having some issues [19:47] right, we need to put something up, we just don't have it atm [19:49] mhall119, ok, would take much [19:49] er would not [19:49] mhall119, so my webapp isnt running and I cant figure out why [20:07] pmcgowan: pastebin your .desktop and manifest.json please [20:07] apparmor .json too [20:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278458/ [20:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278459/ [20:09] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278461/ [20:09] trying to help adrian with his app [20:09] but I just get black screen [20:10] well my url pattern is wrong but thats not it [20:10] pmcgowan, i was able to install ubuntu-emulator trusty 64bit (this time from an installed system not a live system) [20:11] Neo31, ok good, yeha it should have worked [20:11] hmm, everything looks in order [20:11] so it seems to me too [20:11] jdstrand: is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7278461/ using the right apparmor template for a webapp? [20:11] let me fix that url [20:13] mhall119, is there a way to clear out all of the files for an installed app? [20:15] uninstall seems to clean up [20:35] click unregister [20:35] should do it [20:52] thanks mhall119 === jhodapp__ is now known as jhodapp