[07:03] <ePierre> Hi!
[07:04] <elfy> hi ePierre
[07:10] <jibel> Good morning
[07:19] <elfy> morning jibel - a day for resting I think for those lucky enough to be at home :)
[07:23] <jibel> elfy, morning. Right, it'll be a quiet day, essentially triaging incoming bugs from people upgrading to 14.04. And if the sun is still there this afternoon finish early and go to the beach :)
[07:25] <ePierre> jibel = JB Lallement ?
[07:25] <ePierre> (stupid question, I just wanna make sure ahah)
[07:26] <jibel> ePierre, yes
[07:26] <ePierre> cool! hi then :) and thanks for your hard work triaging bugs in launchpad
[07:27] <ePierre> that's an herculean task!
[07:28] <jibel> thank you
[07:29] <elfy> jibel: yep :) good luck with that :p
[07:30] <jibel> actually, there is are very few real upgrade issues. The most common are people with xorg-edgers PPA installed, and people with cinnamon which is broken in Trusty and apparently the maintainer doesn't care
[07:31] <ePierre> and in that case, how do you deal with this kind of issues?
[07:32] <ePierre> I'm actually curious, because I know Ubuntu depends a lot on upstream projects, and sometimes upstream doesn't update or support a new release, or they have another goal than what the current users are expecting, so end users file bugs that are actually not...
[07:41] <jibel> ePierre, if a user is blocked because he installed third party packages, I usually advise how to revert to official Ubuntu packages. If it's a broken package, then it is the responsibility of the maintainer of the package to fix the problem. So I identify the problem, mark it triaged set importance and that's it. Overall I'm making sure that the core of the system is in good shape and no important
[07:41] <jibel> issue felt between the cracks
[07:42] <elfy> jibel: I've not seen any major issues with us - yet
[08:12] <DanChapman> good morning
[08:15] <elfy> hi DanChapman
[08:19] <DanChapman> hey elfy, hows it going?
[08:20] <elfy> not as good as it should be - I should be in Brighton with friends - the weekend went pear-shaped :(
[08:24] <ePierre> what does "pear-shaped" mean in that case? :)
[08:24] <elfy> wrong ... I'm still at home ;)
[08:25] <ePierre> jibel, thanks for the clarification! and how is upstream informed about bugs relative to one of their project? Say a bug is filed for ibus, is the ibus dev team aware of that? Or is there an official ibus packager/maintainer for Ubuntu whoś in touch with the dev team?
[08:27] <elfy> ePierre: check out bug 1284635
[08:28] <elfy> that actually is an ibus bug - Aron Xu works on the Ubuntu Desktop Team - and is upstream afaik for ibus
[08:42] <ePierre> oh cool, Aaron is in Taiwan :)
[08:43] <ePierre> ah no, he's in China, but part of the Taiwan loco team
[08:46] <ePierre> elfy, ok but in the case of this bug, it's Aron responsibility to check if the problem comes from Ubuntu or from iBus, and if it's the latter case, then he has to get in touch with ibus dev team/file a bug in their bugtracker?
[19:11] <Letozaf_> elopio, hello
[19:42] <balloons> aloha Letozaf_
[19:42] <Letozaf_> hello balloons
[19:42] <Letozaf_> balloons, howzit ?
[19:43] <balloons> not too bad..
[19:43] <balloons> trusty is out, cleanup ensues
[19:44] <Letozaf_> balloons, :)
[19:46] <balloons> what are you up to Letozaf_ ?
[19:47] <Letozaf_> balloons, I am looking at reminders app test wrote by elopio
[19:47] <balloons> Letozaf_, ohh excellent
[19:47] <Letozaf_> Letozaf_, have some questions to ask him
[19:48] <Letozaf_> balloons, hope he will be around some time
[19:48] <balloons> Letozaf_, next week things should go back to normal with more folks around
[19:48] <balloons> pretty dead atm.. :-)
[19:49] <Letozaf_> balloons, yes Easter holidays :)