[00:04] <colonelqubit> ogra_: Neat. I'll have to find some time to try it out
[00:04] <ogra_> it is still not feature complete though, dont expect something perfect
[00:08] <cwayne> mandel: ping
[00:08] <bacteu> I want docking!
[00:12] <echoe> srsly
[00:13] <colonelqubit> ogra_: Oh, certainly. I'd just like to see the current progress, esp. if calls and texting are possible :-)
[00:13] <ogra_> yeah, that worked very early already
[00:17] <ogra_> popey, did you ever convert a pdf and opened it with beru ?
[00:17]  * ogra_ seems to not be able to succeed with that 
[00:22] <popey> ogra_: nope
[00:52] <p4b> hey
[00:54] <p4b> I'm trying to get Xorg to work on my Nexus5, but I need some help with the xorg.conf
[00:54] <p4b> anyone tried before'
[00:54] <p4b> Im using the multirom ubuntu touch image as a base
[01:00] <popey> p4b: we dont use xorg in our images
[01:00] <p4b> I know
[01:01] <p4b> I'm trying to get xorg to work instead of mir
[01:01] <p4b> It "half works"
[01:02] <popey> Good luck.
[01:11] <RAOF> p4b: Why do you want Xorg? It's not going to work particularly well.
[01:13] <p4b> It won't be worse than the raspberry pi I have right here anyways
[01:13] <p4b> A friend really wants to run Eclipse on his nexus 7 for some reason and I'm trying to do it on my n5
[01:14] <popey> That sounds overly perverse ☻
[01:14] <p4b> It's overly fun too
[01:14] <popey> I mean, I know of people who want emacs...
[01:14] <popey> well indeed.
[01:14] <p4b> it shows the lxde wallpaper and the cursor
[01:14] <p4b> but then flashes black
[01:15] <p4b> and doesnt do anything else
[01:15] <p4b> it needs proper xorg config file but I only found some for the original N7
[01:15] <p4b> (I installed lxde, lxdm and removed the unity system compositor and lightdm)
[01:18] <p4b> If this works I'll write a blog post or something
[01:18] <p4b> I got my screen to show red instead. Well that's progress
[01:32] <Felix_Lin> Hello, everybody
[02:17] <frecel> anyone with r302 on nexus4 here?
[02:19] <doflah> frecel, I have it
[02:20] <frecel> doflah: I need you to confirm a bug for me before I file it if you have a minute
[02:21] <frecel> can you turn off all apps, and just put the phone to your ear as if you were about to talk to someone and tell me if you hear anything
[02:21] <frecel> I can hear quiet crackling sounds coming from the speaker and I'm wondering if it's a hardware issue or a software bug
[02:24] <doflah> I've noticed that in the past, let me see if it still happening
[02:28] <doflah> yeah, i can hear some crackling
[02:38] <frecel> I don't even know where to file this
[02:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> #ubuntu-release-party
[02:40] <nhaines> Aki-Thinkpad: don't think that's the right place.  :)
[02:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> nhaines, stop cyberbullying me. I meant to type /join >:[
[02:44] <nhaines> Aki-Thinkpad: computers do what you say and not what you mean!  But it's good to have you back in #ubuntu-release-party too.  :)
[02:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> Moooooommmmmm!!!! Nhaines is bullying me
[03:03] <bacteu> is the accounts button in the settings supposed to do anything? (302)
[03:07] <frecel> bacteu: yes and it does, sometimes
[03:08] <frecel> bacteu: from my experience 302 is quitte bugged
[03:09] <bacteu> kay
[03:31] <Felix_Lin> Hi, Guys, Can I get manual test cases for Phablet/Phone?
[03:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> Felix_Lin, manual test cases?
[03:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> also I think "phablet" is deprecated
[03:59] <echoe> just think of it as describing a fab tablet
[03:59] <echoe> stupid question: how would I transfer music to my ubuntu touch phone? :?
[04:00] <echoe> ... maybe I should get a 2013 nexus7. hm.
[04:17] <echoe> seriously though, is there any way to transfer files to ubuntu touch?
[04:17] <echoe> it doesn't show up when I plug the phone into anything
[04:39] <bacteu> echoe: they want you to use sftp
[04:46] <echoe> blugh?
[04:49] <echoe> that's. ... dumb
[05:01] <bacteu> echoe: linux developers are too far detached from the realities of normal human life
[05:08] <echoe> how would one even set up sftp
[05:08] <echoe> this is ridiculous ugh.
[05:10] <bacteu> echoe: http://askubuntu.com/questions/312566/how-to-transfer-files-from-galaxy-nexus-running-ubuntu
[05:10] <bacteu> ignore the galaxy nexus part, it still applies
[05:11] <echoe> lol, ah, thanks
[05:11] <echoe> personally I don't think you can say it's fully ready without mtp support but I'll go do that now x.x
[05:11] <bacteu> it's not fully ready until they make it dockable
[05:12] <bacteu> I was playing with 302 earlier, the touch latency is much longer than android
[05:12] <bacteu> I was hoing it had improved since I last used it :|
[05:13] <bacteu> *hoping
[05:13] <echoe> mtp is the protocol ubuntu touch will likely use to be dockable
[05:13] <bacteu> it doesn't really have much of a choice in that
[05:13] <echoe> I was saying the same thing! :D just with different words
[05:14] <bacteu> using regular usb mounting isn't an option with the nexus 4
[05:15] <bacteu> you can only do that on devices that have sd cards
[05:15] <bacteu> because they need to be unmounted
[05:16] <echoe> shrug
[05:17] <bacteu> the docking was the only thing which made my excited for this project
[05:17] <bacteu> having the ability to walze into work, plug in my phone.. and up pops my desktop environment
[05:17] <bacteu> *waltz
[05:19] <echoe> http://askubuntu.com/questions/341695/how-to-transfer-data-to-ubuntu-touch?rq=1
[05:19] <echoe> this works better
[05:19] <echoe> also, yes, I hope the docking works out myself too. ... it'll probably be next phone gen that it'll be good though
[05:19] <bacteu> :(
[05:21] <echoe> what can I say :|
[05:21] <bacteu> say that my nexus 4 will last forever
[05:23] <echoe> your nexus 4 will last forever.
[05:24] <echoe> pieces of it will remain as objects for generations
[05:26] <bacteu> my laptop will last 4 years, why can't my phone?
[05:26] <echoe> because phones are advancing quicker
[05:27] <bacteu> I think the tech is enough right now
[05:27] <bacteu> we have 2gb of ram, high density displays
[05:27] <bacteu> good socs
[05:28] <bacteu> but the big guys like samsung keep pushing bullshit like 2k resolutions
[05:28] <bacteu> a phone doesn't need that much, its just another thing for them to put in their adverts
[05:33] <echoe> idk
[05:33] <echoe> a phone is a coputer
[05:33] <echoe> I want 2007 thinkbook-level performance from my phone
[05:34] <echoe> then we can call it good. :P
[05:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> echoe, thinkbook?
[05:40] <bacteu> Aki-Thinkpad: yeah, ibm used to make them but then they sold the brand to lenovo
[05:40] <Aki-Thinkpad> *headdesk*
[05:47] <echoe> yeah.
[05:48] <echoe> fine, thinkpad
[05:48] <echoe> whateverrrr
[05:48] <echoe> i'm a bit out of it.
[05:48] <echoe> heyyyy my phone plays music now
[05:49] <bacteu> what type of music?
[05:49] <echoe> my friend introduced me to flume
[05:49] <echoe> so i bought his cd, it's good.
[05:49] <echoe> he's kind of ... electronica/dubsteppy.
[05:52] <echoe> the application list needs ... to be better too
[05:53] <echoe> ooh, fun music player skips
[05:56] <sub_server> Good work on Ubuntu touch, just installed on my Nexus 4. Looking forward to when all features are implemented fully and the market gains some traction
[06:05] <Bray90820> Is there a way to have the ubuntu touch interface on the desktop version of ubuntu
[06:21] <echoe> bray, why would you possibly want that
[06:22] <echoe> but unity is the closest thing you'll get I guess
[06:49] <TyrfingMjolnir> Which phones do Ubuntu Touch work on?
[06:50] <ParkerR> TyrfingMjolnir, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[06:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> I m there
[06:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> Will it run on Samsung Note 3?
[06:50] <bacteu> TyrfingMjolnir: there are official builds and community builds
[06:50] <TyrfingMjolnir> I m considering to buy a phone for this purpose
[06:51] <bacteu> TyrfingMjolnir: maybe check xda
[06:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> I have been using iPhone since June 2007
[06:51] <TyrfingMjolnir> And the initial iPhone is still the best
[06:52] <TyrfingMjolnir> Tried the iPhone 5, 15-18 hrs of phone is not enough for me, so I went back to my iPhone 4 on iOS 6, in which runs OK, but I guess not for long, and unless iPhone 6 has more than 4 days of battery power, I will not upgrade, just to put the phones in the book shelf, for me the phone is a tool, that helps me through the day.
[06:52] <ParkerR> Well I havent been following it very closely but last I saw Touch still wasn't quite ready for mainstream
[06:53] <TyrfingMjolnir> I don’t find android to be any better.
[06:53] <TyrfingMjolnir> But I would love to have Ubuntu or debian on a phone, that would actually make it worth the change.
[06:53] <bacteu> I heard the lg g2 has some immpressive battery life
[06:53] <ParkerR> TyrfingMjolnir, Ok humor me: Why do you need such a long battery life out of a phone? How long are you seriously away from an outlet?
[06:54] <bacteu> ParkerR: its nice to not be tethered.. to *always* have to remember to plug it in each night else you're fucked the morning after
[06:57] <TyrfingMjolnir> Depends on where I m at
[06:57] <TyrfingMjolnir> If I m in the jungle for 4-5 days
[06:57] <ParkerR> I can see that. I usually just have mine charging when I'm not using it. Always seemed so natural to me, heh
[06:58] <TyrfingMjolnir> But every day?
[06:58] <TyrfingMjolnir> Every Saturday should be enough
[06:58] <bacteu> do you have an e-ink e-book reader? I only need to charge mine every couple of weeks, its such a nice experience
[06:58] <ParkerR> Well I have an outlet near me every day
[06:59] <ParkerR> Multiple
[06:59] <bacteu> just stick it back in the bag and it'll always have charge
[06:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> I probably also have an outlet neat my several days pr year, but it makes me feel attached.
[06:59] <TyrfingMjolnir> and addicted
[07:00] <bacteu> TyrfingMjolnir: have you considered an external battery pack?
[07:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> Yeah, I have that, but I consider it a complete waste and a hazzle
[07:00] <TyrfingMjolnir> I hate this planned obsolescense
[07:01] <ParkerR> TyrfingMjolnir, I saw this earlier. Slightly older spec phone but with a giant battery http://www.tabletdroid.co.uk/blog/android-phone-lasts-2-months-meet-philips-w6618/
[07:01] <ParkerR> TyrfingMjolnir, Well bad battery life isnt always planned obsolescence
[07:01] <TyrfingMjolnir> Too much light in the display?
[07:01] <ParkerR> Hmm?
[07:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> I usually have the light down to 20-25?
[07:02] <ParkerR> Well yeah backlight is the main power draw
[07:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> 20-25%
[07:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> and I never render on my phones
[07:02] <TyrfingMjolnir> And I always turn off bluetooth( this is a life saver for iPhone 4, gives double the battery life )
[07:03] <ParkerR> Yeah I have one I use as an ipod
[07:03] <TyrfingMjolnir> How come bluetooth can use the same amount of power as the 75% top light levels of the screen?
[07:04] <ParkerR> Extra chip to power
[07:07] <ParkerR> Heh and actually rh iPhone 4 doesnt get used really at all anymore since I picked up a little Sansa Clip
[07:07] <ParkerR> &the
[07:09] <bacteu> low signal is the worst for my nexus 4
[07:09] <bacteu> it can drain the battery overnight if I'm not careful
[07:10] <bacteu> whereas if I put airplane mode on it doesn't budge an inch
[07:10] <ParkerR> bacteu, low signal = it trying harder to find a signal?
[07:10] <bacteu> yeah
[07:22] <timppa> Hi! How can I disable call forwarding on ubuntu touch?
[07:23] <timppa> regular ##21# -> call does not work, gives invalid USSD error
[08:56] <echoe> timppa: apparently is not a feature yet
[10:43] <nexus4BUY> hello all, I would like to buy a nexus 4 smartphone, cause I still don't have a  smartphone, where can I buy a nexus 4 in europe for example?
[10:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> nexus4BUY, why the nexus 4 specifically?
[10:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> cost?
[11:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> I am not expert on this, but I believe there are more... suitable phones for ubuntu-touch
[11:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> I say this because someone had mentioned to me that their nexus 4 ran ubuntu touch somewhat slowly.
[11:12] <nexus4BUY> I was thinking that nexus 4 is the best supported phone for ubuntu-touch...
[11:14] <nexus4BUY> I would appreciate to know if there are any other smartphones to consider  to buy.  please give me an help or I have to wait next year to buy a smartphone.
[12:34] <Neo31> hello folks, i cannot install ubuntu-sdk on 14.04 any help please ?
[12:35] <pmcgowan> Neo31, whats the problem
[12:36] <Neo31> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275155/
[12:36] <Neo31> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275180/
[12:36] <Neo31> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7275247/
[12:37] <Neo31> it seems not on ubuntu repositories nor on ubuntu-sdk-team ppa!!
[12:37] <Neo31> pmcgowan
[12:38] <pmcgowan> let me see
[12:39] <pmcgowan> Neo31, the metapackage is in universe
[12:40] <Neo31> what should i add to my sources.list to solve this pmcgowan ?
[12:40] <pmcgowan> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
[12:40] <Neo31> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty universe
[12:41] <Neo31> good
[12:41] <Neo31> thanks a lot
[12:41] <Neo31> trying it
[12:41] <pmcgowan> ok
[12:43] <Neo31> problem solved, thank you pmcgowan
[12:43] <pmcgowan> great yw
[12:43] <pmcgowan> Neo31, if you have any questions join #ubuntu-app-devel
[12:44] <Neo31> thanks again pmcgowan, I will :)
[13:24] <cwayne> mandel: ping
[13:24] <HerrBulles> Hello , Wolrd ! :-)
[13:24] <HerrBulles> Hello , World ! :-)
[13:26] <HerrBulles> A Star Note N9775  MTK dual sim phone could be made to work with Ubuntu ?
[13:30] <pmcgowan> !devices
[13:32] <HerrBulles> Thank you !
[14:13]  * dobey wonders when nexus 5 will be supported
[14:15] <Tassadar> dobey: I think sometimes this development cycle was the "goal", I currently maintain custom system-image server with daily builds for N5 and deb (4G version of Nexus 7)
[14:16] <Tassadar> https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg06721.html
[14:19] <cwayne> Tassadar: thanks for that btw, been using your system-image server for awhile now :)
[14:21] <dobey> hmm
[14:27] <dobey> ugh. tmo has the 16gb n5, for the 32gb n5's price :(
[14:27] <cwayne> why not just buy it from google?
[14:28] <dobey> well i'm not going to pay the 32gb price for a 16gb model, for sure
[14:28] <Tassadar> btw, I just upgraded that sever, tasemnice, to 14.04 ^^
[14:28] <Tassadar> *server
[14:28] <dobey> but t-mo has a store down the road, and i could have it today. google won't even ship it for 1-2 business days
[14:29] <dobey> and google won't even tell me tax and shipping until i add a payment method to google wallet :-/
[14:29] <dobey> plus t-mo has a "free wireless charger" deal right now
[14:29] <dobey> although, since the phone is $50 extra, it's not quite free
[14:31] <tedg> Think I'm going to wait to see more about the BQ phone. Really want the dual-SIM feature.
[14:32] <dobey> tedg: do you not have t-mo service?
[14:32] <tedg> dobey, No, long story.
[14:40] <mhall119> why do I have so many missing icons for core apps (and others) after recent upgrades?
[14:40] <mhall119> popey: ^^ any idea?
[14:40] <popey> on desktop or phone?
[14:40] <Tassadar> dobey: btw, it doesn't work as well as on n4 - audio is not working very well (only works for the first call)
[14:41] <mhall119> popey: phone
[14:41] <Tassadar> other things are fine, but the audio bug is quite bad if you want to use it as a phone
[14:41] <popey> mhall119: odd, fine here.
[14:41] <popey> mhall119: screenshot?
[14:41] <frecel> I've had missing icons for as long as I can remember
[14:42] <popey> for which apps?
[14:42] <frecel> It's random
[14:43] <popey> hmm, sounds like unity8 issues..
[14:43] <popey> these are installed apps or store apps?
[14:44] <popey> i just rebooted my phone and see loads missing....
[14:44] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/phablet/device-2014-04-18-154410.png
[14:45] <pmcgowan> popey, thats the no icons without network bug?
[14:45] <mhall119> popey: http://ubuntuone.com/5pZpQrlCmUxOL8sf6Cshp7
[14:45] <mhall119> http://ubuntuone.com/6HL1Q7hixiKDbowippAOh6
[14:45] <popey> ooh, Ubuntu One link.. retro
[14:45] <mhall119> http://ubuntuone.com/4filWBWHK6rzQUgsiRHYJK
[14:45] <dobey> pmcgowan: well, "available" shouldn't show without network either
[14:45] <mhall119> I'm old-skool
[14:45] <pmcgowan> dobey, thats why its a bug ;)
[14:45] <popey> pmcgowan: its on the network
[14:45] <popey> I'm ssh'ed into the phone
[14:46] <mhall119> I'm also connected to wifi,and they're installed apps
[14:46] <pmcgowan> mhall119, yeah thats odd indeed
[14:46] <dobey> sounds like unity8 issue
[14:46] <dobey> what image?
[14:47] <mhall119> r302
[14:47] <mhall119> was it on the last one I had too, r396 I think
[14:47] <dobey> weird
[14:47] <mhall119> 296
[14:48] <popey> file:///usr/share/unity8/Dash/Card.qml:102:16: QML Image: Error downloading https://myapps.developer.ubuntu.com/site_media/appmedia/2014/04/icon256_1.png - server replied: NOT FOUND
[14:48] <popey> that'd do it
[14:48] <faLUCE> hello, is it possibile to install ubuntu touch on an iphone 5?
[14:48] <popey> yes, 404 on that page
[14:48] <frecel> faLUCE: no
[14:48] <dobey> !devices
[14:48] <dobey> faLUCE: ^^
[14:48] <faLUCE> thanks, but why it is not possible?
[14:49] <popey> beuno: ^^^ getting missing images (404) on myapps in unity8 on devices
[14:49] <dobey> popey: i think he is off today
[14:49] <popey> those urls dont look right
[14:49] <popey> some work
[14:49] <dobey> that url works for me
[14:49] <popey> it didnt before
[14:49] <dobey> i just opened it in firefox and there's an icon
[14:50] <popey> there's two hosts
[14:50] <popey> bet one is hosed
[14:50] <frecel> faLUCE: because apple doesn't release drivers for their phones
[14:50] <mhall119> popey: but these are *installed* apps
[14:50] <faLUCE> frecel: okk thanks
[14:51] <mhall119> they shouldn't be looking to myapps for icons
[14:51] <popey> true
[14:51] <pmcgowan> right they wouldnt
[14:51] <dobey> mhall119: check the log to see why it's not loading
[14:51] <popey> are the icons on disk?
[14:51] <frecel> can you guys install any apps?
[14:51] <frecel> on r302
[14:51] <popey> see where the Icon in .desktop in .local/share/applications
[14:52] <popey> frecel: just installed untappd
[14:52] <dobey> frecel: i don't see why it wouldn't work
[14:52] <pmcgowan> hah me too
[14:52] <mhall119> dobey: file:///usr/share/unity8/Dash/Card.qml:102:16: QML Image: Cannot open: file:///opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/facebook.png
[14:52] <frecel> I'm getting network issues all over and I still haven't determined if it's the phone or my home network
[14:53] <mhall119> and indeed, that file doesn't exist
[14:53] <dobey> mhall119: does that path exist?
[14:53] <dobey> heh
[14:53] <dobey> frecel: what issues exactly?
[14:54] <popey> mhall119: it doesn't exist here either
[14:54] <mhall119> mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/cyborg$ adb shell ls /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.clock/
[14:54] <mhall119> ls: cannot access /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.clock/: No such file or directory
[14:54] <mhall119> did these not get installed by click in the image?
[14:54] <mhall119> I mean, the apps exist and work
[14:55] <pmcgowan> mhall119, preinstalled apps should not be at that path
[14:55] <frecel> dobey: websites load slow, cant connect to my ubuntu one account, searching for apps returns host not found
[14:55] <frecel> dobey: same with my sim card inserted and using 3g
[14:55] <mhall119> or maybe they don't....
[14:55] <mhall119> just tried Clock and it won't open
[14:55] <frecel> dobey: and the phone is on the same wifi network as the laptop I'm on right now
[14:55] <popey> mhall119: check logs?
[14:56] <dobey> popey: hrmm, finally got past freezing enough for "available" to load on my n7. no icons for available apps on there either
[14:56] <popey> yet mine load now.
[14:56] <popey> I'll ping is
[14:56] <mhall119> click list says it's installed
[14:56] <pmcgowan> the server seems much slower than usual but eventually I get the icons
[14:57] <mhall119> popey: unity8.log just says something about not being bale to load that icon
[14:57] <frecel> popey: I just realised that my sister has a nexus4 with android on it, I'm going to ask her to check the speaker thing
[14:57] <pmcgowan> mhall119, facebook should not point to that user path, those should only be store apps
[14:57] <dobey> where did all my logs go
[14:57] <popey> nice one frecel
[14:57] <dobey> .cache/upstart/ only has older compressed logs :-/
[14:58] <mhall119> qmlscene: failed to check version of file 'ubuntu-clock-app.qml', could not open...
[14:58] <mhall119> popey: ^^
[14:58] <popey> shall we have a hangout? would it be easier to debug?
[14:59] <popey> mhall119: btw "Could not access backend storage" from your ubuntuone links
[14:59] <mhall119> popey: works for me
[14:59] <popey> works now
[14:59] <popey> didnt before
[15:00] <popey> wonder if our DC's are getting a kicking
[15:00] <mhall119> they might be seeing a little extra traffic
[15:01] <popey> haha, cut the rope
[15:01] <ice9> my android phone uses a customized  cyanogenmod, can I use it as a base to port Ubuntu?
[15:02] <bacteu> ice9: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting
[15:04] <ice9> bacteu: but I mean if my device is not supported by cyanogenmod, do I still be able to port Ubuntu?
[15:05] <frecel> popey: her phone does it too, its a hardware thing
[15:05] <bacteu> ice9: that is discussed in the link
[15:06] <popey> frecel: yay
[15:08] <dobey> popey, frecel: what speaker thing?
[15:08] <popey> dobey: hold phone to your ear
[15:08] <dobey> popey: i don't have an n4
[15:09] <popey> Its like holding a shell to hear the ocean.
[15:09] <frecel> dobey: nexus4 makes a really quiet crackling sound all the time
[15:09] <frecel> popey: :D
[15:09] <dobey> ah
[15:09] <popey> Only an ocean full of spiders
[15:09] <mhall119> pmcgowan: are those paths only for store apps, or only for click apps?
[15:09] <mhall119> IIRC, Facebook is deployed as a click app, but pre-isntalled on the image
[15:09] <bacteu> my nexus 4 makes tons of noises
[15:09] <dobey> popey: it's the 5th plague
[15:09] <dobey> popey: you know, just in time for passover
[15:09] <pmcgowan> mhall119, I dont have facebook in that path, only apps I got from the store
[15:09] <mhall119> hmm....
[15:10] <dobey> popey: it's an ocean of boiling locusts
[15:10] <mhall119> where is facebook installed then?
[15:10] <popey>  /usr/share/click/preinstalled ?
[15:10] <popey> along with all other preinstalled apps
[15:10] <mhall119> so it's a bug with the click scope then
[15:10] <dobey> nope
[15:11] <dobey> that path certainly did not come from the click scope code
[15:11] <mhall119> then why is the click scope looking in the wrong place for icons/
[15:11] <dobey> the scope doesn't look anywhere for icons
[15:11] <mhall119> um.....
[15:11] <dobey> it just reads the Icon= from the .desktop file and hands it off to the dash
[15:11] <mhall119> oh
[15:11] <dobey> maybe it's a bug in click itself
[15:12] <dobey> when it creates the .desktop files for pre-installed apps?
[15:12] <pmcgowan> its just borked on mhall119 phone though
[15:13] <mhall119> mhall@mhall-thinkpad:~/projects/Ubuntu/sdk/cyborg$ adb shell cat /usr/share/click/preinstalled/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/current/webapp-facebook.desktop |grep Icon
[15:13] <mhall119> Icon=./facebook.png
[15:13] <mhall119> so what .desktop file is it reading?
[15:14] <cwayne> mardy: i don't suppose we have bindings for online accounts in golang on the radar? :)
[15:14] <dobey> the one in .local/share/applications/
[15:14] <mhall119> oh, oh, there it is
[15:15] <mhall119> so...if I update a pre-installed app from the store, it replaces that .desktop file with one that points to /opt/ correct?
[15:15] <dobey> Icon=/usr/share/click/preinstalled/.click/users/@all/com.ubuntu.clock/clock-app@
[15:15] <dobey> 30.png
[15:15] <dobey> err without the \n in there
[15:15] <dobey> is what my clock .desktop has for phablet user
[15:15] <mhall119> Icon=/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.developer.webapps.webapp-facebook/./facebook.png
[15:15] <mhall119> is my facebook .desktop
[15:15] <dobey> mhall119: maybe, did you install updates for preinstalled apps?
[15:16] <mhall119> so, install an image and the .desktop you get is for /usr/share/, install an update from the store and you get a new .desktop that uses /opt/, now if you upgrade a new image, it'll put a newer click in /usr/share/, but that doesn't change the user's .desktop that still points to /opt/?
[15:16] <mhall119> dobey: I did before upgrading to a new image
[15:17] <dobey> ah
[15:17] <dobey> mhall119: that sounds like it might be plausible and could be your issue, yeah. but i don't see why upgrading to new image would kill the updated package that was in /opt
[15:18] <popey> yes, sounds plausible
[15:18] <dobey> ie, i don't think it should, but maybe it does
[15:19] <mhall119> I still have the package installed in /opt/
[15:21] <ahayzen> Hi, where does the mediascanner-service-2.0 store its settings and cache?
[15:24] <popey> db is in ~/.cache/mediascanner-2.0/
[15:24] <mhall119> dobey: I have the package installed, just not a link to them in /opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/
[15:25] <ahayzen> popey, i see that and deleted it but it there a way to get it to blacklist directories?
[15:25] <popey> ahayzen: poke jhodapp
[15:25] <ahayzen> popey, it wants to try and index the whole of my 1TB backup hdd
[15:25] <popey> "nice"
[15:25] <ahayzen> popey, not nice when ur trying to copy stuff from it lol
[15:25] <popey> heh
[15:27] <pmcgowan> mhall119, have you reflashed anytime recently?
[15:27] <pmcgowan> sounds like an old bug that was addressed
[15:27] <dobey> mhall119: so i guess something deleted the link
[15:28] <ahayzen> jamesh, ping
[15:28] <mhall119> pmcgowan: last night
[15:28] <mhall119> to r302
[15:29] <pmcgowan> let me look for the bug
[15:29] <mhall119> at some point soon I probably just need to wipe it and clean-flash
[15:29] <mhall119> I've been updating it since september
[15:48] <tedg> mhall119, I can't seem to find the docs for unity actions in 14.04, do you know where it is?
[15:48] <tedg> mhall119, Only got 13.10 links.
[15:53] <mhall119> tedg: Unity.Actions isn't part of the supported API
[15:53] <mhall119> at least that was my understanding
[15:53] <tedg> Uhm, seems it should be…
[15:53] <mhall119> only Ubuntu.Components.Action
[15:54] <tedg> mhall119, Are those exportable to HUD?
[15:54] <mhall119> tedg: I believe so, yes
[15:54] <mhall119> they use Unity.Action under-the-hood
[15:54] <tedg> Oh, how confusing.
[15:55] <mhall119> which has been a source of some pain when running these apps outside of Unity
[15:55]  * tedg has no idea what to link to in this blog post
[15:55] <mhall119> bzoltan: can you chime in on the supportedness (made up word) of Unity.Actions?
[15:56] <tedg> Probably a holiday for him.
[15:56] <mhall119> he was here earlier
[15:56] <mhall119> in #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:59] <Fede> hi
[15:59] <bacteu> hi
[16:01] <Fede> i' ve a question: i'm a student of the University and i work with ubuntu, but i wish know also ubuntu touch for developing app... it is possible to install this OS on Galaxy S2 or only Nexus?
[16:02] <Fede> tks for helping =)
[16:03] <pmcgowan> !devices | Fede
[16:03] <pmcgowan> Fede, canonical is only supporting the nexus 4, 7 and 10 currently
[16:05] <Fede> ok, someone that has this phone can tell me if the rom for s2 is much bugged?
[16:16] <ice9> how long it would take from an experienced ubuntu touch developer to port it to a new device?
[16:18] <bacteu> ice9: how long is a piece of string?
[16:19] <ice9> bacteu: depending on the string, count it's letters
[16:21] <ice9> an experienced developer will know all the requirements to proceed like kernel, vendor, paramters, etc... so assuming these things are easily avaible on the internet then the dev can estimate it would take around time t
[16:21] <ice9> same like any other software development project!
[16:24] <tedg> ice9, It's hard to provide generic estimates, highly dependent on the state of drivers, chipset, etc.
[16:25] <bzoltan> tedg:  yes, holiday :) so finally I have time to do my hobby :) what is Ubuntu
[16:26] <bzoltan> mhall119: I rememberthat we agreed on moving away from the present dependency structure. But it did not happen yet
[16:26] <ice9> alright so how much money a developer may ask to work on a poroject like that?
[16:27] <mhall119> bzoltan: but is the Unity.Actions API even something we want to tell app developers to use?
[16:37] <bzoltan> mhall119: I do not know, but I do not think so.
[16:44] <dobey> ice9: ask for money from whom?
[16:45] <ice9> dobey: anybody, I'm asking about if that is a paid task
[16:46] <dobey> it's not a paid task
[16:46] <ice9> dobey: can you do that port?
[16:46] <dobey> if i really wanted to, i'm sure i could, yes
[16:47] <ice9> and how much it may cost?
[16:47] <dobey> "cost" ?
[16:48] <dobey> do you know know how open source development works?
[16:48] <ice9> I mean if you are going to get paid for it
[16:48] <dobey> i don't know of anyone looking ot pay anyone to port ubuntu to a specific phone device
[16:48] <dobey> people are doing ports to scratch their own itches, not because they are getting paid
[16:49] <dobey> if you want to contract me to do any software development work, personally, i would probably charge > $100/hr for it
[16:51] <ice9> did you port already Ubuntu to your phone?
[16:53] <mterry> Does anyone know the best way to listen for a dbus event as part of an autopilot test?
[16:54] <balloons> mterry, ask that on #ubuntu-autopilot, though it's a slow day :-)
[16:54] <mterry> balloons, fair
[16:55] <frecel> can someone run iwlist wlan0 txpower on a nexus4 when connected to a wifi network? please and thank you
[16:59] <dobey> ice9: no, my phone is 3 years old and not an android phone. i've never owned/wanted android
[17:00] <ice9> dobey: do you contribute to ubuntu touch in anyway?
[17:00] <dobey> heh, sure
[17:02] <ice9> how?
[17:03] <dobey> lots of ways; it's kind of my job :)
[17:04] <symon6> hello, I have a problem. I tried to install Ubuntu Touch on my Galaxy Nexus but I stuck in: Step 4 - Downloading & Deploying Image to Device. I try to use command: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap but i get the error message:  Device tuna not found on server https://system-image.ubuntu.com channel devel. How can I fix this?
[17:05] <dobey> !devices
[17:07] <dobey> maybe the instructions aren't updated
[17:07] <symon6> so it is possible that my version is not supported?
[17:07] <dobey> symon6: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Touch
[17:07] <dobey> symon6: galaxy nexus is no longer supported by official builds
[17:10] <danielholm> hi guys, which is the best project too look for example code of both veritcal and horizontal UI?
[17:11] <frecel> danielholm: http://design.ubuntu.com/apps
[17:11] <danielholm> frecel: thanks mate
[17:12] <symon6> So it is not possible to install Touch on Galaxy Nexus. Sh*t :D It's really funny, because i bought this phone long time ago specially for the new version of android and also because ubuntu touch was developed for this device, and now I don't have any of that :D
[17:13] <symon6> thanks a lot for help :)
[17:13] <frecel> symon6: you could probably install an older image
[17:13] <frecel> symon6: I don't know if that's of any help
[17:14] <dobey> symon6: it's possible using the community ports probably, or with multirom
[17:16] <symon6> and where was the support droped for G. Nexus?
[17:16] <dobey> symon6: the official builds no longer support it
[17:16] <dobey> symon6: see the ReleaseNotes wiki link i pasted to you
[17:19] <bacteu> I hope they don't drop my nexus 4
[17:20] <dobey> bacteu: probably not for a while
[18:42] <echoe> how is alarms mostly functional if it only works if the device is awake
[18:42] <echoe> lol.
[18:44] <bharper> still no encrypted wifi?
[18:57] <danielholm> hi again, is it possible to get the current IP using QML only?
[19:03] <dobey> bharper: what do you mean? wpa seems to work just fine here
[19:08] <dobey> i wonder where the wifi password gets stored though
[19:11] <dobey> weird, so it does store them in /etc on the phone too
[19:13] <dobey> but / is readonly, so how?
[19:17] <bacteu> dobey: doesn't ubuntu have a fairly large partition on the fake sd card?
[19:18] <dobey> bacteu: / is a 2 GB loopback mount that is read-only
[19:18] <dobey> and what sd card? my nexus 7 doesn't have an sd card…
[19:19] <dobey> or you mean the internal memory is an "mmc" device?
[19:20] <dobey> oh, i see
[19:20] <dobey> /dev/mmcblk0p9 on /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,data=ordered,discard)
[19:22] <bharper> I don't see any options to enter password
[19:22] <bharper> but the OS keeps freezing on me
[19:25] <dobey> bharper: the password entry should pop up when you select the AP in the list, if it requires wpa
[19:25] <dobey> or WEP too i guess
[19:25] <bharper> let me try again
[19:25] <dobey> what device?
[19:31] <bharper> N7
[19:31] <bharper> nexus 7 wifi
[19:31] <bharper> the older one
[19:32] <bharper> overall performance is very low
[19:32] <bharper> I have had to issue about a dozen reboots via adb
[19:33] <dobey> yeah, it is no longer officially supported
[19:33] <bharper> then why make all the image and zip files to install it?
[19:33] <dobey> i have the same device, and it indeed freezes quite often since the switch to mir
[19:34] <bharper> I understand its now a low end device
[19:35] <bharper> do you have a device where performance is good?
[19:39] <dobey> bharper: i only have a 2012 n7 right now
[19:40] <dobey> bharper: there are no more images for grouper on the server. #294 is on devel on the server as a matter of convenience, but newer images are not
[19:41] <bharper> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/
[19:41] <bharper> some of those grouper files have time stamps from yesterday
[19:42] <dobey> i didn't even know that url existed
[19:42] <dobey> but i guess some bot is still dumping an image there and shouldn't be
[19:43] <bharper> I found it by following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install -> Manual Download & Installation
[19:44] <bharper> although the Target devices says Nexus 7 is Deprecated
[19:45] <bharper> the docs are giving mixes messages regarding the its status
[19:48] <john96_> Iäm wanting to install ubuntu for Tablets on my lenovo tablet a2109. There is no image available specific to this device yet. If i were to flash a image for say the Kindle fire HD (for which there is an available image and both devices have the same screen size) would i have unwanted results. Such as the bricking of my device?
[19:50] <dobey> john96_: possibly yes
[19:52] <john96_> dobey: ok, thanks
[20:02] <hydruid> Is ubuntu-touch still just in "dev status"?
[20:12] <leftyfb> Hello, I updated Ubuntu on my Nexus 7 today, now when it boots I get the notification bar, clock and the circle, but it's all frozen. The clock doesn't move and nothing is responding. This is after countless reboots
[20:14] <dobey> leftyfb: grouper? or flo?
[20:15] <leftyfb> dobey: it's the 1st gen Nexus 7
[20:15] <dobey> leftyfb: yeah, it's no longer supported: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Ubuntu_Touch
[20:15] <leftyfb> So I shouldn't bother with Ubuntu and just go back to Android?
[20:15] <dobey> leftyfb: the last build for it is a bit unreliable on the hardware
[20:18] <leftyfb> so..... no Ubuntu and back to Android?
[20:18] <dobey> Tassadar: so, you have a nexus 5 that you have ubuntu running on?
[20:18] <Tassadar> yes
[20:19] <Tassadar> I don't use it daily though, I'm just curious I guess
[20:19] <dobey> leftyfb: that's up to you. but it won't be getting official daily images any more. i don't know what community support will be like for it
[20:19] <Tassadar> dobey: as I said, if you wanna use it as a phone, the bug with sound is very bad (sound only works on first call)
[20:20] <dobey> Tassadar: the sound issue you mentioned only affects calls? not music or apps that make sounds?
[20:20] <Tassadar> eehm
[20:20] <Tassadar> not sure
[20:20] <Tassadar> lemme check
[20:20] <Tassadar> but I guess it is buggy overal - it needs proper config files for the sound system
[20:20] <Tassadar> (?)
[20:20] <Tassadar> and there is not that many people who know how to make them, apparently
[20:20] <leftyfb> dobey: If it were up to me, I would like Ubuntu on this. But unfortunately, it's completely non-functional and you're telling me I will receive no help with getting it working again.
[20:22] <dobey> leftyfb: i'm saying canonical won't be producing official builds for it any longer. i have no idea if anyone in the larger community will help maintain working ubuntu images for that device (and it's not up to me if they do or not)
[20:22] <Tassadar> man, the screen rotation sensitivity is too high, the phone just vibrates, and the screen tries to rotate to right and left at the same time
[20:22] <dobey> leftyfb: so i can't tell you for certain to go back to android or not for it.
[20:23] <dobey> Tassadar: so the sound issue affects music and other apps too? (just curious if it's related to microphone being active, or all sound in general)
[20:24] <Tassadar> testing it right now
[20:24] <dobey> Tassadar: cool, thanks
[20:25] <Tassadar> oh, wow, I updated it and now it doesn't work even on the first call
[20:25] <Tassadar> wait, it is fine on second try
[20:25] <Tassadar> well
[20:25] <Tassadar> it's weird)
[20:25] <dobey> trying to decide if i should just buy a shiny new n5 instead of paying almost as much for inferior used hardware that's probably got plenty of scratches
[20:25] <dobey> heh
[20:26] <dobey> ok, so sound works (intermittently) it seems
[20:26] <dobey> does bluetooth work at all?
[20:27] <Tassadar> it seems that when it works during call, it disables all other sound afterwards
[20:27]  * dobey won't even bother asking about controltalk
[20:27] <Tassadar> and I can't even make any more calls, it hangs up the moment it should initiate the call
[20:27] <dobey> hmm
[20:28] <Tassadar> yeah, bluetooth doesn't work, won't turn on
[20:30] <dobey> :/
[20:30] <Tassadar> the device needs some love :/
[20:34] <pmcgowan> Tassadar, what build do you have, not seeing any of that here
[20:34] <pmcgowan> oh its nexus 5
[20:34] <pmcgowan> nm
[20:34] <Tassadar> yeaah)
[20:36] <dobey> Tassadar: although, what build is it? :)
[20:36] <Tassadar> 302
[20:36] <Tassadar> current trusty-proposed
[20:36] <dobey> ah ok
[20:44] <dobey> anyone know what the best way to build a string of json out of various string/int/bool variables is in c++?
[20:45] <dobey> bunch of << with a std::istringstream seems to give me an angry gcc error message
[20:55] <dobey> nevermind
[20:58] <joshad> Hello. I did `apt-get install ubuntu-touch' on my tablet. It broke several things, so I wish to remove it, but my main problem is that GDM no longer works.
[20:59] <joshad> I am always being dropped to failsafe X, I managed to start GDM with the init script, but it is not a DM - what I see is a non-functional Gnome 3 desktop
[21:00] <joshad> X loads fine, no errors in Xorg.0.log (only in Xorg.failsafe.log)
[21:00] <joshad> lightvm doesn't start either, no errors in any log. I went over the ubuntu-touch packages, and any diverts that have been added to my system
[21:01] <joshad> And I don't seem to find anything that touches X config or DM config
[21:01] <joshad> `apt-get remove ubuntu-touch' doesn't remove most of touch's packages
[21:01] <joshad> Anyone has any ideas?
[21:02] <pmcgowan> joshad, not many folks around today, and you have of course discovered that meta package is not meant for the desktop
[21:03] <dobey> joshad: tried apt-get install --reinstall gdm?
[21:04] <joshad> I did remove and install it back, that didn't change much. Would --reinstall be different?
[21:04] <mterry> tedg, you still around?  I see messaging menu changed to only be visible if there were listening applications?  It's not showing up in my split greeter now -- is there an easy fix?  Some service I'm supposed to start?
[21:05] <dobey> joshad: probably not. the important part is the configuration step
[21:05] <tedg> mterry, Hmm, not sure. larsu would be the guy to ask.
[21:05] <tedg> mterry, Do you not have the telelphony backend running?
[21:05] <tedg> telephony
[21:06] <mterry> tedg, we have the telepathy backend
[21:06] <mterry> tedg, telephony is started if we get a call right?
[21:07] <tedg> mterry, Hmm, you're drifting into territory that I'm not so sure on, but I thought it had to be running all the time to listen to oFono signals.
[21:07] <mterry> tedg, telepathy-ofono does that
[21:07] <mterry> which we have running
[21:07] <tedg> But then what connects to the messaging menu in the desktop session?
[21:07] <tedg> It has to be something running.
[21:08] <tedg> Perhaps bfiller knows, oh, but not here.
[21:08] <mterry> tedg, yeah that's what I'm not sure on.  Which bit of my user session is triggering the menu
[21:09] <tedg> mterry, Perhaps do an "initctl list" in both cases and diff it ?
[21:11] <mterry> tedg, I bet it's telephony-service-indicator.conf
[21:11] <mterry> tedg, which has the annoying "start on started unity8" condition
[21:11] <tedg> mterry, Yeah, probably should be start on started indicator-messages ?
[21:12] <mterry> tedg, or indicator-services-start like the rest of them?
[21:12] <tedg> That'd get it out of the way a bit.
[21:12] <tedg> It's not an indicator, if it started exporting before indicator-messages was ready, it'd be wasting its time.
[21:12] <mterry> tedg, fair...
[21:13] <tedg> That's the nice part about having everything as upstart jobs instead of having everything as dbus activated, we don't have to have a haphazard boot.
[21:13] <tedg> Which makes ogra_'s charts happy :-)
[21:14] <mterry> tedg, OK.  fixing that to stop and start on indicator-messages works.  Is that service really tied so explicitly to indicator-messages that the change makes sense?
[21:15] <tedg> mterry, AFAIK, but I'd definitely talk to the apps folks first.
[21:15] <mterry> tedg, I'll propose a branch for it, they can explain why it'd be bad
[21:15] <tedg> Makes sense.
[21:16] <melvster> I have a 5 month old version of ubuntu touch running on a nexus 4 ... are there any docs on how to upgrade to a newer version?
[21:16] <mterry> tedg, thanks for the help!
[21:17] <mterry> melvster, go to your system settings and look at the Updates section?
[21:17] <tedg> np
[21:17] <melvster> mterry: thanks will try that now
[21:18] <dobey> mterry: does that work to go from saucy to trusty? afaik it doesn't
[21:19] <mterry> dobey, oh really?  :-/
[21:19] <dobey> melvster: run "ubuntu-device-flash --channel devel"
[21:19] <dobey> mterry: yeah, afaik
[21:19] <pmcgowan> dobey, you are correct, gotta go through R
[21:19] <dobey> mterry: the trusty images aren't in the "stable" channel
[21:19] <pmcgowan> oops sorrt
[21:19] <pmcgowan> sorry
[21:19] <joshad> So, removing all ubuntu-touch packages I found in dpkg.log fixed gdm :)
[21:20] <pmcgowan> actually on phone stable can be updated
[21:20] <dobey> pmcgowan: to trusty?
[21:20] <pmcgowan> dobey, I saw stgraber testing that
[21:20] <joshad> Is there a safe subset of them I could install? For example, after removing ubuntu-touch Mobile Broadband is gone from my Unity network menu
[21:20] <dobey> hmm
[21:20] <pmcgowan> they move trusty to stable and it was supposed to show an update
[21:21] <pmcgowan> but now devel is post trusty or soon to be
[21:21] <dobey> will be next week
[21:21] <dobey> but probably better to be on than stuck on a stale image that's not getting bug fixes :)
[21:21] <joshad> I'd wish to install safe features, like support for my 3G modem, and touch-friendly apps, mobile telephony, etc. :)
[21:25] <danielholm> anyone what knows how to get the serial and IMEI codes using QML only? the last cpmment over here states it should work with some kinde of BB library but I don't know what to do next about it since it is not packaged with ubuntu : https://supportforums.blackberry.com/t5/Native-Development/How-to-get-HardwareInfo-in-QML/td-p/2190451
[21:29] <dobey> danielholm: the QSysInfo add-on (or whatever it's called now after the split up of those things from QtMobility for Qt5) should have a way to get it, afaik.
[21:30] <danielholm> dobey: thanks!
[21:30] <dobey> danielholm: you can proabably look at the code for system-settings to see how the "about this phone" panel does it
[21:30] <dobey> danielholm: of course, confinement might not allow your app to actually get that info, as well :)
[21:31] <danielholm> dobey: yeah, but I'm afraid that is in C/C++ and I dont understand any of that..
[21:31] <danielholm> dobey: yeah, I know. this app might have a lot of stuff the confinement wont allow as of today. But I will try to get it to work anyway somehow
[21:33] <danielholm> dobey: it is a device manager. I want to show the IMEI, serial, IP, phone number and coordinates if needed. if you loose one of your devices, for example
[21:33] <dobey> hmm
[21:35] <dobey> danielholm: looks like system-settings isn't getting the imei via c++ at all
[21:35] <danielholm> dobey: since the app shouldn't be allowed to be uninstalled easily it might need some kind of deeper installation anyway
[21:36] <dobey> danielholm: https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~system-settings-touch/ubuntu-system-settings/trunk/view/head:/plugins/about/PageComponent.qml
[21:36] <danielholm> dobey: really? :D if you got a link, please share
[21:36] <danielholm> ah
[21:36] <dobey> danielholm: http://doc.qt.digia.com/qtmobility-1.2.0/qsystemdeviceinfo.html#imei-prop
[21:36] <danielholm> thanks mate! :)
[21:37] <dobey> well, i'm off. later :)
[21:38] <danielholm> dobey: thanks alot! later :9
[21:38] <danielholm> :)
[21:39] <melvster> hmm i pressed search for updates first, has been going about 20 minutes and I'm not sure how to turn it of, or if that is safe ...
[21:45] <crisna> hi there...i'm trying to install the ubuntu-touch on my nexus 4 and currently stuck at getting udbflash go package
[21:45] <crisna> go get launchpad.net/phablet-tools/udbflash causes import "launchpad.net/phablet-tools/udbflash": cannot find package
[21:45] <crisna> can someone point out what the obvious mistake i'm doing?
[21:52] <pmcgowan> crisna, you want ubuntu-device-flash package from universe
[21:52] <pmcgowan> or the ppa if earlier than trusty
[21:53] <crisna> thanks pmcgowan...sorry for missing this before..i'm on OSX
[21:53] <pmcgowan> crisna, oh
[21:53] <pmcgowan> then not sure
[21:56] <pmcgowan> crisna, I think he just changed the name to that
[21:56] <pmcgowan> rather than udbflash
[21:57] <crisna> ah..really..let me check that
[21:58] <promet> hey!
[22:02] <pmcgowan> crisna, this worked for me  go get launchpad.net/phablet-tools/ubuntu-device-flash
[22:05] <crisna> pmcgowan - i still see the error[1]  let me try resetting the GOPATH if that makes any difference    	[1]imports launchpad.net/phablet-tools/ubuntu-device-flash: import "launchpad.net/phablet-tools/ubuntu-device-flash": cannot find package
[22:05] <promet> Does anyone know why the Ubuntu Installer won't detect my Win8 on my laptop? I didn't have the problem previously, and now I have the problem no matter which verion I'm trying to install. Thanks!
[22:39] <crisna> fyi..finally got it working..mistake was i didn't set the PATH with GOPATH/bin
[22:59] <melvster> dobey: cool thanks that worked now, I have the latest! :D