| knome | and take care, and make sure people are shepherded at #xubuntu ;) | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| knome | --> | 00:00 |
| slickymaster | nightie knome | 00:00 |
| starrats | CONGRATULATIONS TO THE WHOLE TEAM!! | 00:31 |
| brainwash | starrats: thank you | 00:39 |
| brainwash | is your cursor freeze problem resolved now? | 00:39 |
| starrats | so far two days in a row no freeze at startup and today when I rebooted it went jus fine, the cursor remains unfrozen so far | 00:44 |
| starrats | wonder if tonight I should do my daily updates/dist-upgrades? | 00:45 |
| starrats | or should I wait | 00:45 |
| brainwash | why should you wait? | 00:45 |
| starrats | ah okay | 00:45 |
| starrats | cool | 00:45 |
| starrats | what's 14.10? | 00:46 |
| brainwash | from now on there won't be that many updates on a daily base | 00:46 |
| brainwash | the next release number? :) | 00:47 |
| starrats | ah okay will there be an automatic pop up window telling you to update? | 00:47 |
| brainwash | it can be configured | 00:47 |
| starrats | 14.10 going to be the 'new' 13.10? | 00:47 |
| starrats | ah ok | 00:47 |
| brainwash | new 13.10? :D | 00:48 |
| brainwash | it's either .04 or .10 | 00:48 |
| starrats | well don't kmnow how to say it | 00:48 |
| starrats | ah ok | 00:48 |
| brainwash | but 14.04 LTS is an important release, so we should focus on getting the known issues fixed | 00:50 |
| starrats | okay and I do understand that. | 00:50 |
| brainwash | and any new problems which pop up on launchpad | 00:50 |
| starrats | ah okay | 00:50 |
| starrats | I started with 13.10 from a friend who sent me a disk and I couldn't get it to dual boot and used VBox for about 2 months then one day scrolling I found 14.04 and been thru the thick and the thin. | 00:52 |
| starrats | and having my ups and downs but stuck to it and I'm glad i did. | 00:53 |
| brainwash | that's awesome :) | 00:54 |
| ali1234 | virtualbox is perfectly good - bt it's even better when you put windows inside it :) | 00:54 |
| starrats | I currently have Debian-xfce Wheezy in my VBox and using weechat. | 00:57 |
| starrats | Eventually my windows7 side of the partition will disappear and the laptop will be all xubuntu Linux and windows will be in the VBox, lol | 00:59 |
| starrats | getting off for the night and will see you all tomorrow, good night everyone. | 01:00 |
| bluesabre | !isitout ;) | 01:12 |
| Unit193 | !isitout | 01:12 |
| ubottu | Yes, it's out! Download at http://www.ubuntu.com/download | Release announcement at https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-April/000182.html | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | !isitout | 01:12 |
| Unit193 | See? | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | doesn't work with emoticons | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | :-( | 01:12 |
| bluesabre | Happy release day everyone! | 01:13 |
| bluesabre | :D | 01:13 |
| * bluesabre is late to the party | 01:13 | |
| ali1234 | i've seeded 30GB of xubuntu isos already :) | 01:21 |
| bluesabre | nice ali1234 | 01:22 |
| bluesabre | I can thank you for my current leeching | 01:22 |
| bluesabre | :) | 01:22 |
| ali1234 | this dedi has a stupid amount of traffic allowance... 20TB per month | 01:24 |
| bluesabre | ever reach your cap? | 01:27 |
| ali1234 | no, not even close | 01:28 |
| ali1234 | the only reason we have a dedi is because of a bug in a piece of wiki software | 01:28 |
| ali1234 | which allowed spammers to create pages, but not edit them | 01:28 |
| bluesabre | oh god | 01:28 |
| bluesabre | I bet thats fun | 01:29 |
| ali1234 | we used to have a cheap VPS with 512MB RAM | 01:29 |
| ali1234 | but unswappable kernel memory was limited to like 20MB | 01:29 |
| ali1234 | the bug caused that t be exceeded, and then random processes got killed | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | so we got the cheapest ever dedi | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | i would never use a VPS again frankly... they suck | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | now we don't even use 1% of the resources normally | 01:30 |
| ali1234 | even though i eventually tracked down the problem... going back just isn't an option | 01:31 |
| bluesabre | digital ocean works pretty well, but I had to upgrade to the 2GB, every time I post something it was like a DOS attack | 01:36 |
| ali1234 | we're on hetzner | 01:37 |
| ali1234 | hosting about 20 odd websites, mostly blogs and other low traffic stuff | 01:38 |
| Pwnna | did the lightlocker issue get addressed? | 03:20 |
| Pwnna | it's 14.04 | 03:25 |
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| elfy | ochosi: I think we need to publish the screen locking post - seems to be waiting for a screenshot though | 06:21 |
| elfy | and a docs link | 06:22 |
| ochosi | elfy: the screenshots are there but knome wants to land a few css fix for that first | 07:52 |
| ochosi | so tuesday is the eta | 07:53 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - cheers :) | 07:53 |
| ochosi | Pwnna: not sure what you're referring to, but in case it's the lid-lock-suspend issue, then no, that's not fixed yet | 07:57 |
| starrats | goodmorning everyone! | 09:34 |
| starrats | Is the program/app 'Curlew' going to added/fixed in 14.04, just curious | 09:41 |
| starrats | some early morning humor: http://imgur.com/pauTM5r | 10:07 |
| elfy | starrats: and what is curlew? | 10:37 |
| starrats | It's a program that converts music videos to audio files. | 10:39 |
| starrats | It worked on 13.10 my friend said, so I don't know if it was in the distro or an install | 10:39 |
| elfy | no idea - it's not in the standard repos - it's certainly not anything to do with us at all though :) | 10:40 |
| starrats | ah ok | 10:41 |
| starrats | and good morning elfy | 10:41 |
| elfy | morning :) | 10:41 |
| starrats | I googled it elfy and all I got were birds, lol so I don't know what my friend is talking about atm ,lol! | 10:44 |
| starrats | did you see the imagur I posted above? | 10:44 |
| starrats | elfy: http://www.noobslab.com/2013/03/curlew-multi-converter-for-ubuntu.html | 10:56 |
| starrats | bbl getting to leave to see my doctor | 10:57 |
| Aurvandill | hello | 13:06 |
| ochosi | !hello | 13:06 |
| ubottu | Hi!, Welcome to #xubuntu-devel! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines. Enjoy your stay! | 13:06 |
| knome | hmm... | 13:07 |
| bluesabre | hmm..? | 13:11 |
| knome | !hi | ochosi | 13:22 |
| ubottu | ochosi: Hello! Welcome to #xubuntu-devel! Please note that this channel is for Xubuntu developer coordination. For support questions, please use #xubuntu. Offtopic chatter in #xubuntu-offtopic. | 13:22 |
| ochosi | +1 | 13:24 |
| bluesabre | !howdy | knome | 13:26 |
| bluesabre | make that a reality | 13:26 |
| knome | ochosi, you made me find bug 1309533 | 13:31 |
| ubottu | bug 1309533 in Ubuntu IRC Bots "Can't edit factoids that are aliases to nonexisting factoids" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1309533 | 13:31 |
| ochosi | so huhu | 13:31 |
| ochosi | -so | 13:31 |
| elfy | afternoon all | 13:40 |
| bluesabre | greetings elfy | 13:45 |
| knome | ochosi, answer that sad guy on #x | 13:45 |
| ochosi | knome: which one? | 13:56 |
| ochosi | gah, too much distracting/annoying backlog :/ | 13:56 |
| knome | ochosi, clos | 13:56 |
| ochosi | am actually a bit short on time now | 13:56 |
| knome | ochosi, dashitis ;) | 13:59 |
| ochosi | not really | 14:00 |
| knome | settings-manager -> window-manager? | 14:00 |
| knome | :P | 14:00 |
| ochosi | yeah, that's totally fine imo | 14:00 |
| ochosi | anyway, i'm out, hf with clos ;) | 14:00 |
| knome | yeah... | 14:00 |
| elfy | cya ochosi | 14:00 |
| ochosi | bbl | 14:00 |
| ochosi | cya elfy | 14:00 |
| ochosi | elfy: great mail to the ML btw, always nice to thank the testers! | 14:01 |
| elfy | :) | 14:01 |
| elfy | knome: I did a spec for trello | 14:01 |
| elfy | by the way | 14:02 |
| knome | noticed | 14:02 |
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| knome | elfy, boo, you beat me. :) | 15:23 |
| elfy | lol | 15:23 |
| elfy | not many people torrenting it seems - I've seeded about 16 copies | 15:25 |
| knome | heh | 15:26 |
| ali1234 | i've seeded 57 copies of i386 and 43 copies of x64 | 15:26 |
| elfy | mine must smell then :p | 15:27 |
| knome | hah, i'm not even seeding | 15:29 |
| elfy | hi GridCube brainwash Aurvandill | 15:41 |
| elfy | brainwash: so what was it you wanted me to check yesterday? | 15:42 |
| GridCube | elfy, | 15:51 |
| elfy | brainwash: nvm found the backlog - and it was as I expected :p the buttons are synced now of course :|# | 16:02 |
| elfy | so - turning off lock on suspend - close lid - reboot - password to unlock! - black screen on tty7 - restart lightdm can then login | 16:03 |
| elfy | killall xfpm and reboot from suspend works | 16:03 |
| elfy | suspend from action plugin and whiskermenu works fine - now I'm away till tomorrow | 16:15 |
| Aurvandill | bb elfy | 16:16 |
| elfy | not doing very well at going - really off now :p | 16:28 |
| knome | elfy, hf :P | 16:28 |
| elfy | knome: cya - floating about tomorrow probably, unless I actually manage to get away :) | 16:29 |
| knome | bluesabre, added files to bug reports | 16:34 |
| starrats | Question? Wouldn't it be easier to do a fresh install via dvd or usb thumbdrive of 14.04 over 13.10 instead of an upgrade? Just curious. | 16:55 |
| knome | this isn't the support channel though... | 16:59 |
| starrats | Well I got a couple of emails that folks are having a slight problems upgradin from 13.10 to 14.04, so that's why I asked here knome. | 17:03 |
| knome | i would say "easier" depends on many factors, one big factor being what kind of stuff the user is familiar/comfortable with... | 17:05 |
| knome | and how important it is to backup settings and files, and if they know how to do that or not | 17:06 |
| knome | there is no single, "best", answer for everybody | 17:06 |
| starrats | ah okay question answered and how are you today knome? | 17:06 |
| knome | i'm okay | 17:06 |
| pleia2 | knome: I'm thinking we should mention the minimal CD on our downloads page, but I am so tired right now I might just open a bug for it and do it later :) | 17:19 |
| knome | pleia2, lol | 17:20 |
| knome | i can do the update, but do you have energy to pad the text? | 17:20 |
| pleia2 | knome: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/xubuntu-users/2014-April/006739.html is a nice starting point :) | 17:21 |
| pleia2 | that's the last time I ever want to write that, so | 17:21 |
| knome | hah | 17:21 |
| knome | http://pad.ubuntu.com/XubuntuMini | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD hasn't been updated with the current md5sums | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | though I'd like to link to that | 17:22 |
| pleia2 | I could just update it myself with the iso links and nag someone else to add the canonical md4sums | 17:23 |
| knome | mhm... | 17:23 |
| pleia2 | or two of us could download and md5sum and compare! | 17:23 |
| knome | works | 17:24 |
| knome | so, should we just point to that page? | 17:24 |
| knome | ok, check the pad i posted | 17:26 |
| knome | should be ready | 17:26 |
| pleia2 | logging in to all the things | 17:27 |
| pleia2 | yeah that's good | 17:27 |
| * pleia2 downloads images | 17:28 | |
| knome | me too | 17:28 |
| knome | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-WsRvpt1xY | 17:29 |
| knome | very good background music for post-release day | 17:29 |
| * knome is too confused... | 17:32 | |
| knome | meh, the website is playing "no login for you" -games on me | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | the help wiki decided to fall off the planet for me | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | whee | 17:35 |
| knome | maybe it's a bigger issue then | 17:35 |
| pleia2 | no more working for you | 17:36 |
| knome | haha | 17:36 |
| knome | "too many requests, dropping support" | 17:36 |
| knome | but wordpress 3.9, yay | 17:36 |
| knome | every new release means my clients are getting bang for their buck ;) | 17:37 |
| knome | yeah, i can't load launchpad either... | 17:37 |
| knome | maybe canonical shut their doors | 17:37 |
| knome | "meh, the xubuntu release was so much better than ours, let's go home" | 17:38 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 17:38 |
| knome | yay works | 17:39 |
| knome | pleia2, updated website | 17:40 |
| knome | "Plugins and themes registering custom image sizes can now register suggested cropping points. For example, prevent heads from being cropped out of photos with a top-center crop." | 17:42 |
| knome | well done :P | 17:42 |
| pleia2 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD is updated | 17:42 |
| knome | good good | 17:42 |
| knome | you forgot the *'s | 17:43 |
| knome | i'll do taht | 17:43 |
| knome | done | 17:43 |
| pleia2 | oh, for LTS | 17:44 |
| pleia2 | thanks | 17:44 |
| knome | yep | 17:44 |
| knome | huhu, anything else? :) | 17:46 |
| pleia2 | no, too tired :) | 17:47 |
| knome | hihi | 17:47 |
| knome | all the mirrors seem to be okay now | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | yep, I checked them this morning | 17:48 |
| pleia2 | which means like 20 minutes ago | 17:48 |
| knome | heh | 17:48 |
| knome | i just added an id for the minimal header, which means you can now link to http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/#minimal and make sure the minimal section is visible | 17:49 |
| pleia2 | cool, thanks | 17:50 |
| knome | np | 17:50 |
| knome | uh oh | 17:52 |
| knome | i wonder if the latest wordpress update broke something | 17:52 |
| knome | :| | 17:52 |
| knome | can't access subdomain blogs | 17:53 |
| * knome sighs and goes fixing | 17:53 | |
| knome | oh meh, forcing www. | 17:54 |
| knome | oh, hah, nope | 18:00 |
| * knome facepalms | 18:00 | |
| knome | needs path to be set to "/", null isn't okay | 18:00 |
| * knome shrugs | 18:00 | |
| catwiesel | Hello. | 19:23 |
| ochosi | !hello | 19:23 |
| ubottu | Hello! Welcome to #xubuntu-devel! Please note that this channel is for Xubuntu developer coordination. For support questions, please use #xubuntu. Offtopic chatter in #xubuntu-offtopic. | 19:23 |
| catwiesel | Just wrote on #xubuntu and it was suggested I would try it here. | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:19:31] <catwiesel> Hey. I updated from 13.10 to 14.04 and now the indicator-multiload does not work anymore. An indicator similar to that, which I wrote myself didn't work either. | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:20:03] <catwiesel> It looks like the panel caches the icons, which makes indicator-multiload (has a histogram of cpu etc as an icon) useless. | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:20:18] <catwiesel> Is that an actual feature, which I couldn't find or a bug? | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:20:29] <catwiesel> And is that bug only on my machine, or everywhere? | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:21:02] <catwiesel> (I fixed my indicator by changing the path to the icon with every update, circumventing the proposed caching) | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:21:50] <catwiesel> Hi | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:22:25] <knome> catwiesel, it's a bad time now, right after the release, but join #xubuntu-devel for more information on indicator changes... | 19:24 |
| catwiesel | [21:23:18] <catwiesel> knome: Ok. Will do. Thanks. Mainly wanted to know, if that bug is spread, or just on my machine. But I'll wait, like you suggested. | 19:24 |
| ochosi | ok, first off | 19:25 |
| ochosi | no need to repaste lines from another channel | 19:25 |
| ochosi | especially if most ppl here are in #xubuntu as well | 19:25 |
| catwiesel | Ok. Sorry, makes sense. | 19:25 |
| ochosi | thing is, we switched to gtk3 indicators in 14.04 | 19:26 |
| ochosi | so that's the main difference | 19:26 |
| ochosi | so if your indicators worked in 13.10, that suggests that they were/are gtk2 indicators | 19:27 |
| ochosi | hence they won't work in trusty | 19:27 |
| ochosi | unless you port them | 19:27 |
| ochosi | there were also a few changes under the hood of the indicators in the 14.04 cycle | 19:27 |
| ochosi | they use upstart now to launch the service/s | 19:27 |
| ochosi | and we do too | 19:27 |
| ochosi | catwiesel: makes sense? ^ | 19:27 |
| catwiesel | Figured it was something with gtk. | 19:28 |
| catwiesel | Don't quite understand what upstart has to do with it, though. Could you elaborate on that? | 19:28 |
| ochosi | that's just the mechanism that starts the indicator-service when the session starts now | 19:31 |
| ochosi | before there were desktop files autostarted by the session | 19:31 |
| ochosi | but anyway, you don't have to worry about that because the xfce4-indicator-plugin takes care of that for you | 19:32 |
| catwiesel | Ok. I will look into upgrading, then. | 19:32 |
| ochosi | so all you need is install a gtk3 indicator and it'll get autostarted by it | 19:32 |
| catwiesel | Alright. | 19:34 |
| catwiesel | Hope the multiload indicator gets updated, then. | 19:34 |
| catwiesel | Thanks for the quick response. | 19:35 |
| ochosi | np | 19:35 |
| ochosi | if you're writing indicators yourself and feel like writing ones for xubuntu, that's always appreciated btw ;) | 19:36 |
| ochosi | (e.g. a datetime indicator with google-calendar sync that doesn't depend on gnome or unity stuff would be very high on my personal wishlist) | 19:37 |
| catwiesel | Well, I used the appindicator module, which is not that well documented. And looking at the source of indicator-multiload with dozens of files, where mine is like 100loc in on .py file, I'd say, I leave that to the pros for now ^_^ | 19:39 |
| catwiesel | Will look through the source some more, though. Might learn something new. Even if it's just the language. | 19:39 |
| ochosi | heh | 19:40 |
| ochosi | yeah | 19:40 |
| ochosi | anyway, new contributors are always welcome | 19:41 |
| ochosi | it's not like we're a huge team | 19:41 |
| catwiesel | I like Xubuntu a lot. Not that good at reading into other people codebases, though. | 19:42 |
| catwiesel | But someday o/ | 19:42 |
| ochosi | sure | 19:46 |
| ochosi | actually coding isn't the only way you can contribute | 19:46 |
| catwiesel | I could translate stuff, but German always seems to be taken real quick. | 19:47 |
| Aurvandill | catwiesel aslo from germany? | 19:47 |
| catwiesel | Yes. | 19:47 |
| ochosi | there is also testing | 19:50 |
| ochosi | which is quite important | 19:50 |
| ochosi | bugfixing/triaging | 19:50 |
| ochosi | and supporting users in #xubuntu | 19:51 |
| ochosi | artwork, documentation, etc. | 19:51 |
| amigamagic | hey guys do you know what means the last message the ubuntu bot send me here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1307251 ? | 21:21 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1307251 in xfdesktop "xfdesktop doesn't save the arrangement of desktop icons after a resolution change" [Low,Confirmed] | 21:21 |
| amigamagic | I mean, not here in the chat room.... I mean in that page I linked... | 21:37 |
| knome | Unit193, can you go to http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/2014/04/18/image-alignment-testing-post/ and resize the window horizontally? | 22:35 |
| Unit193 | Okay...? | 22:37 |
| knome | Unit193, so, do the images resize nicely? | 22:37 |
| knome | and keep in three columns? | 22:37 |
| Unit193 | No seeing anything different. | 22:38 |
| Unit193 | Ahhh! | 22:38 |
| knome | make the window reaally narrow | 22:38 |
| knome | then reaaally wide | 22:38 |
| knome | i guess it's better turn that into a shortcode and not try to get it working wysiwyg | 22:39 |
| knome | also, automatic probing for column count. | 22:40 |
| knome | Unit193, test again! | 23:38 |
| Unit193 | "OH no it's on FIRE!!" :P | 23:39 |
| knome | <3 that new shortcode | 23:40 |
| knome | though could be a bit more user-friendly, have to know attachment id's now | 23:40 |
| knome | or show all attachments for the post | 23:40 |
| knome | but it's a start... | 23:40 |
| Unit193 | Not sure I notice much different. | 23:40 |
| knome | this starts looking like a plugin! | 23:40 |
| Unit193 | But congrats about it working without js. | 23:41 |
| knome | no, it shouldn't be different, that's the point | 23:41 |
| knome | but 2 and 3 columns. | 23:41 |
| knome | of course ;) | 23:41 |
| knome | hours spent on css not in vain.. | 23:41 |
| knome | besides css3 is great. | 23:42 |
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