| === jacky is now known as jackyalcine | ||
| === jackyalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| celtha | hi | 00:20 |
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| celtha | any have problems with graphoc card on intel i5-4670 with kubuntu 14.04? | 00:21 |
| shpekk | 000 | 00:25 |
| celtha_ | hi all | 00:34 |
| code_chimp | Hello | 00:35 |
| celtha_ | i want ask about integrated graphic card.. | 00:36 |
| celtha_ | i have i5-4670 and dont can up resolution more that 1024/768 | 00:37 |
| celtha_ | i dont know waht is the problem..... need any special drivers on kubuntu 14? | 00:37 |
| giantpune | hi. can somebody tell me how to ignore a broken package in kubuntu 14.04? i used teh built-in driver thingy and it installed nvidia driver and now synaptic is complaining that the default xorg driver is broken. | 01:12 |
| giantpune | i'd like to jsut ignore it if possible as the nvidia one seems to be working. | 01:12 |
| Etriaph | Hi folks. | 01:14 |
| Etriaph | Does anyone have a solution for an NVIDIA GeForce 700 series card for 14.04 by any chance? | 01:15 |
| Etriaph | lspci shows the card and detects it properly, but I can't get a working nvidia/xorg combination working | 01:15 |
| giantpune | the default driver menu doesnt recommend anything for it? | 01:16 |
| giantpune | settings>system settings -> driver manager | 01:16 |
| Etriaph | Nope | 01:16 |
| Etriaph | And I know nvidia's driver supports the card | 01:16 |
| Etriaph | I can't seem to download it from nvidia.com, it keeps dropping the connection during the transfer | 01:17 |
| Etriaph | I'm stuck in an 800 x 600 display through an HDMI cable to a 21.5" monitor :( | 01:19 |
| Etriaph | I did install from the beta 2 ISO, I guess I can try burning the official release ISO and reinstall | 01:21 |
| giantpune | i took the official update today and my crappy nvidia card is worknig pretty well with teh default driver | 01:21 |
| Etriaph | My install doesn't see that it's there, nvidia-settings has no configuration available | 01:22 |
| Etriaph | Ran nvidia-xconfig and then I couldn't get a display from lightdm | 01:22 |
| Etriaph | Had to back that out and continue from there | 01:22 |
| Etriaph | I should be able to run 1920 x 1080 (as I do on my Win7 install) but ya, it doesn't think I have an nvidia card installed somehow | 01:23 |
| keithzg | AciD`: For the record, I rebooted again and the problem has actually reappeared. So I think you lose that bet :P | 01:45 |
| keithzg | But it's Friday evening and this is my work computer, soooo . . . | 01:47 |
| * keithzg will worry about it Monday. | 01:48 | |
| keithzg | ...oh, wow, the clock on this PC is off by over 40 minutes now? Okay, yeah, it's definitely something weird in regards to this computer's perception of time . . . whatever. It's the weekend! | 01:54 |
| * keithzg actually leaves this time. | 01:54 | |
| etriaph | Figured out how to get nvidia card working | 02:12 |
| === etriaph is now known as Etriaph | ||
| Etriaph | http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/install-nvidia-driver-331-67-ubuntu1404/ | 02:12 |
| Etriaph | In the case anyone's lookin' | 02:12 |
| Etriaph | Worked like a charm. | 02:12 |
| valorie | good to hear you got it working | 02:16 |
| westyvw_ | great notes migration isnt working, nor is anakonda after upgrade. Ideas? | 03:22 |
| westyvw_ | akonadi i mean | 03:22 |
| valorie | westyvw_: two channels I can recommend are #kontact and #akonadi | 03:26 |
| valorie | however, it is now the 4-day Easter weekend in most of Europe | 03:27 |
| westyvw_ | valorie: no posts by the kubuntu team yet then | 03:27 |
| valorie | so answers might be slow in arriving | 03:27 |
| westyvw_ | 4 days? | 03:27 |
| valorie | right, everyone was working 20 hour days, and many have taken off for the weekend | 03:27 |
| valorie | yes, I heard that Th-Sun or Fri-Mon are both common | 03:28 |
| westyvw_ | lol, i guess so i too am taking Monday off | 03:28 |
| valorie | leisure is a part of life us Murricans ignore, to our detriment | 03:29 |
| valorie | you aren't alone; I heard of another person whose akonadi process wouldn't start | 03:29 |
| valorie | not very many problems this time out though | 03:30 |
| westyvw_ | i think i found the solution to this, but i need to reboot to update the video driver. geez . | 03:34 |
| westyvw_ | thanks for chat! | 03:34 |
| __dan__ | hi all, congrats on 14.04 :) thanks to all devs etc | 03:46 |
| === jackyalcine is now known as jacky | ||
| giovane | oi | 04:05 |
| ptyx | anyone about? | 04:27 |
| ptyx | upgraded to 14.04 and it broke | 04:28 |
| ptyx | how disappointing | 04:28 |
| facorread | What happened? | 04:28 |
| bjrohan | Uh-Oh. In my Muon Update manager it looks for updates, then it says waiting for configuration file, and nothing else | 04:29 |
| ptyx | facorread, it froze while loading the desktop | 04:29 |
| hkuieagle | hi, ubuntu upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04, when boot up it shows "error: malformed file \n press any key to cotinue". Anyone knows how to fix this? | 04:29 |
| ptyx | i've not done a clean install and now i can't install my basic apps | 04:29 |
| ptyx | really crap | 04:29 |
| ptyx | muon discover is awful, and it won't allow me to install package manager | 04:30 |
| facorread | OK wild guesses for both hkuieagle and ptyx, try clean installs again. | 04:30 |
| facorread | I also dislike muon discover. | 04:30 |
| facorread | I prefer muon but it has a bug about purging and removing; I use synaptic as workaround. | 04:30 |
| ptyx | i like how it looks but it simply doesn't work half the time | 04:30 |
| ptyx | how to install synaptic? | 04:31 |
| ptyx | the package manager should never be removed, ever | 04:31 |
| facorread | In a console run apt-get install synaptic muon | 04:31 |
| facorread | muon may work for you. | 04:31 |
| facorread | Sorry | 04:31 |
| facorread | sudo apt-get install synaptic muon | 04:31 |
| hkuieagle | After showing that error, it can start up normally. I guess something is wrong with Grub | 04:32 |
| valorie | bjrohan: you might run dpkg as well, to reconfigure | 04:32 |
| ptyx | it's saying i'm missing libmuonprivate2 | 04:32 |
| bjrohan | valorie: what do I entger on the console to do that? | 04:33 |
| ptyx | facorread: thx | 04:33 |
| valorie | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 04:33 |
| bjrohan | valorie: says locked by another process, Muon is not running though | 04:34 |
| valorie | sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock | 04:34 |
| facorread | ptyx wait, is your desktop loaded already? | 04:34 |
| valorie | then run it again (up-arrow) | 04:35 |
| valorie | before reinstalling, why not try `sudo apt-get install -f`? | 04:35 |
| valorie | and get the malformed package fixed | 04:35 |
| valorie | hkuieagle: ^^^ | 04:35 |
| bjrohan | valorie: it is running but I see some errors passing by | 04:36 |
| valorie | also, there seems to be a mixup between muon package manager and muon discover here | 04:36 |
| valorie | some prefer one, some the other, but 14.04 shipped with Discover | 04:36 |
| bjrohan | valorie: | 04:37 |
| wilfredo | hello, nice to be with you, I am willing to work with what you can, count me | 04:37 |
| bjrohan | Errors were encountered while processing: | 04:37 |
| bjrohan | libperl5.18 | 04:37 |
| bjrohan | libcommon-sense-perl | 04:37 |
| bjrohan | gvfs-backends | 04:37 |
| bjrohan | libsnmp30:amd64 | 04:37 |
| unopaste | bjrohan you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted | 04:37 |
| valorie | very good, unopaste | 04:37 |
| valorie | also, `top` is your friend | 04:39 |
| valorie | it shows you what is running, and it's often easy to kill stuff from there | 04:40 |
| hkuieagle | valorie: you mean reinstall grub2? | 04:40 |
| hkuieagle | it's a upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 | 04:40 |
| DarthFrog | "htop" is even better than "top". | 04:40 |
| valorie | there was advice above to reinstall | 04:40 |
| valorie | which shouldn't be necessary | 04:41 |
| valorie | DarthFrog: htop does give you more info, but that isn't always necessary | 04:42 |
| DarthFrog | valorie: I find htop to be a clearer display and the kill facility is much better. | 04:43 |
| DarthFrog | Nothing wrong with regular top, though. | 04:43 |
| valorie | I use both at times | 04:44 |
| valorie | amazing the power in 3 or 4 letters | 04:44 |
| covey | ok. so, updated to 14.04 and upon restart got "grub_term_highlight_color not found. whats the solution? | 05:22 |
| covey | i only have access to grub rescue | 05:22 |
| valorie | wow | 05:24 |
| valorie | grub rescue is horrible | 05:24 |
| valorie | covey: do you have a recent backup of your ~/home ? | 05:25 |
| covey | unfortunately i dont believe so. | 05:26 |
| covey | i dont remember the last time i backed it up | 05:26 |
| === dan is now known as dcmul | ||
| valorie | do you have home in its own partition? | 05:28 |
| covey | yes, but unless im mistaken that would be a predominantly storage partition and not the os partition | 05:31 |
| valorie | that means you can do a clean install and still have your home untouched | 05:31 |
| valorie | if it is worth keeping | 05:31 |
| covey | if that doesnt sound right then say so. im not exactly the brightest bulb when it comes to this kind of thing | 05:31 |
| valorie | home is mostly storage, yes | 05:32 |
| valorie | your files, songs, photos etc. | 05:32 |
| valorie | not everyone puts it onto a separate partition though | 05:32 |
| valorie | if you did not, then a clean install will erase your home | 05:32 |
| covey | their are a fair amount of things i dont want to lose. im on a business trip though and dont really have anything to do a clean install with. im on my phone at the moment | 05:33 |
| valorie | covey, here is an idea -- can you get to some big box store that would have hard drives and enclosures? | 05:34 |
| covey | i run a 2 hd dual boot system, so yes, most of the non-os stuff is saved on a separate drive | 05:35 |
| valorie | cool | 05:35 |
| covey | yes | 05:35 |
| valorie | then you only need a usb key, but you have to have A computer to download the ISO onto | 05:35 |
| covey | ok. so there isnt anything i can do from the command line to fix the problem? | 05:36 |
| valorie | even a windows box can probably burn an ISO onto a thumb drive | 05:36 |
| valorie | right now, your only commandline is the grub rescue | 05:36 |
| valorie | I personally have never been able to rescue grub with it | 05:37 |
| covey | i could probably boot to the windows side, save it on a thumb drive and then redo the kubuntu side actually | 05:37 |
| valorie | sure | 05:37 |
| valorie | if grub rescue lets you do that | 05:37 |
| valorie | that's the problem | 05:38 |
| covey | well, that seems fitting. itd be too simple if it worked | 05:38 |
| valorie | oooo, this might work: | 05:38 |
| valorie | set root=(hd0,msdos6) | 05:38 |
| valorie | set prefix=(hd0,msdos6)/boot/grub | 05:38 |
| valorie | insmod normal | 05:38 |
| valorie | normal | 05:38 |
| valorie | from grub rescue | 05:39 |
| valorie | askubuntu.com/questions/192621/grub-rescue-prompt-repair-grub | 05:39 |
| valorie | look at that, it might be helpful | 05:39 |
| covey | got "no such partition" | 05:41 |
| covey | thanks for the link btw | 05:41 |
| valorie | it has a good number of strategies | 05:41 |
| covey | so, got all that to work and still got the same term highlight color error. any other ideas? | 06:02 |
| ofc | after I upgraded from Kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 randomly crashes system | 06:02 |
| valorie | hmmmm | 06:11 |
| valorie | did you google that error? | 06:12 |
| valorie | ok, I just did, and it seems that it is cause by uefi | 06:14 |
| valorie | ugh | 06:14 |
| valorie | however, some say that `grub2-install --target=i386-pc /dev/sda` helps | 06:14 |
| valorie | of course, if you have a different box or configuration, change that..... | 06:14 |
| ofc | .xsession-error http://goo.gl/irnZ5A | 06:51 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Apparently a lot of KDE packages seem to be held in the repository, which might explain my failure to upgrade? | 06:54 |
| FlameReaper-PC | at any rate attempting to replace my sources.list with trusty entries will make me purge my KDE desktop in favor of GNOME | 06:55 |
| valorie | FlameReaper-PC: that's not the suggested way to upgrade | 07:15 |
| valorie | what are you upgrading, first of all? | 07:15 |
| FlameReaper-PC | valorie: trying to upgrade to 14.04. | 07:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | of course, that's not the suggested way, it's a last resort of sorts | 07:16 |
| valorie | why, what has happened? | 07:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | i've been unable to upgrade | 07:16 |
| valorie | also, from what are you upgrading? | 07:16 |
| FlameReaper-PC | 13.10 | 07:16 |
| valorie | so first, `sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade` | 07:17 |
| FlameReaper-PC | done | 07:17 |
| FlameReaper-PC | I mean, that was already tried from the first time | 07:18 |
| valorie | then `sudo do-release-upgrade` | 07:18 |
| FlameReaper-PC | ^ that's where I'm stuck at | 07:18 |
| valorie | it's always important to have an up-to-date version | 07:18 |
| valorie | what happens? | 07:18 |
| FlameReaper-PC | it's the same error | 07:21 |
| FlameReaper-PC | the " | 07:21 |
| FlameReaper-PC | "cannot calculate upgrade" | 07:21 |
| valorie | can you paste the command and error into pastebin? | 07:24 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:24 |
| valorie | !paste | 07:24 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 07:24 |
| dhq | hey | 07:25 |
| dhq | i just upgraded to 14.04 and now i dont have a 1080p resolution what do you think | 07:25 |
| valorie | hmmm | 07:26 |
| valorie | back in the day, you had to mess with x.org for that | 07:26 |
| dhq | now ? | 07:26 |
| valorie | I dunno | 07:26 |
| lordievader | dhq: xrandr ;) | 07:26 |
| dhq | lets wikik | 07:27 |
| lordievader | dhq: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/guerrilla-tactics-force-screen-mode-ubuntu | 07:27 |
| valorie | !xrandr | 07:27 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 07:27 |
| lordievader | Meh, works perfectly for single screens too. | 07:28 |
| valorie | yes, that seems an oddly formed linky | 07:28 |
| dhq | this resolution is so bad | 07:31 |
| dhq | i think i need to connect back to my tv and runxandr | 07:31 |
| === kubuntu is now known as Guest70952 | ||
| FlameReaper-PC | valorie: http://pastebin.com/BLHxUcKC << sudo do-release-upgrade output | 07:49 |
| FlameReaper-PC | valorie: http://pastebin.com/VH0sEfKG << apt.log output | 07:49 |
| lordievader | FlameReaper-PC: "Unofficial software packages not provided by Ubuntu" is this the case? | 07:50 |
| === steel|off is now known as steel_afk | ||
| FlameReaper-PC | lordievader: the thing is I already downgraded to the bare minimum | 07:50 |
| FlameReaper-PC | I mean, ppa purging | 07:50 |
| FlameReaper-PC | quite a number of stuff | 07:50 |
| Aquablue1704 | Good morning ppl, I have a question concerning the new Kubuntu 14.04 LTS release. Every time I try to install something via the Muon Software Center, Kubuntu notifies me about the changes it will make. In this case it wants to remove "xserver-xorg-video-all". Is it safe to continue? | 07:51 |
| lordievader | FlameReaper-PC: At this stage I'd go for a fresh install. | 07:51 |
| FlameReaper-PC | lordievader: that would suck, and I don't really want to take the time for that | 07:51 |
| lordievader | FlameReaper-PC: The amount of breakage apt predicts cost more time. | 07:52 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: You probably don't want to remove that. What are you trying to install? | 07:52 |
| FlameReaper-PC | I guess I'll hold back from upgrading for now... | 07:53 |
| valorie | FlameReaper-PC: do you have kubuntu-desktop installed? | 07:53 |
| valorie | that is a meta-package | 07:53 |
| FlameReaper-PC | valorie: apparently that I do | 07:53 |
| FlameReaper-PC | yes I do have it. | 07:54 |
| valorie | I suggest `sudo apt-get install --reinstall kubuntu-desktop` | 07:54 |
| Unit193 | dpkg -l | grep ^hi see if you have anything there. I suppose apt-get install -f doesn't help you? | 07:54 |
| valorie | something is really broken | 07:54 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lordievader: The message pops up when I try to install anything from the Muon Software Center: Gimp, VLC, Steam etc. It doesn't matter what it is, it always wants to remove the "xserver-xorg-video-all" package. I am running on a fresh Kubuntu 14.04 64-bit installation. | 07:55 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Unit193: dpkg -l | grep ^hi returns nothing, apt-get -f install also does nothing. | 07:55 |
| lordievader | !info xserver-xorg-video-all | 07:55 |
| ubottu | xserver-xorg-video-all (source: xorg): X.Org X server -- output driver metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+1ubuntu8 (trusty), package size 4 kB, installed size 64 kB | 07:55 |
| Unit193 | FlameReaper-PC: Well, that's a good thing, but bummer for the fix. | 07:55 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: Hmm, it is only a meta package... There isn't anything else that it wants to remove too? | 07:56 |
| lordievader | Unit193: What should "^hi" target? | 07:57 |
| valorie | I have it installed though | 07:57 |
| valorie | according to apt-cache policy | 07:57 |
| Unit193 | lordievader: dpkg -l lists packages, first column is the status. 'hi' is 'held, installed' | 07:57 |
| lordievader | Ah check. | 07:57 |
| valorie | Aquablue1704: you can always install it later | 07:57 |
| FlameReaper-PC | from the apt log, it seems to have problem with the KDE packages, Samba, and a number of other packages. | 07:57 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: I honestly don't know. Any way I could check that? The only thing it shows me is the message above and it tells me that changes are needed and that it's going to remove that package. | 07:58 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: You could see if apt wants to remove it too. "sudo apt-get install vlc" for example. | 07:58 |
| valorie | FlameReaper-PC: the thing is, you said your 13.10 was up to date | 07:59 |
| valorie | instead, it seems really out of date | 07:59 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Hmm | 07:59 |
| valorie | do you have something pinned? | 07:59 |
| FlameReaper-PC | I'll try reenabling updates with packages only from official channels | 07:59 |
| === calin is now known as crucerucalin | ||
| FlameReaper-PC | valorie: last I checked, apt-get returns 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded | 08:00 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord Terminal output tells me that vlc is missing some needed dependencies and that "xserver-xorg-video-all" depends on "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" but it won't/can't or shouldn't be installed. | 08:01 |
| Aquablue1704 | I can copy and paste the terminal info but it's in German. | 08:02 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: Didn't you say it was a fresh install? | 08:02 |
| Unit193 | `apt-cache policy` will list all the repos priorities, yes. | 08:03 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: Yea, I installed Kubuntu yesterday and so far I haven't been able to install anything else (for the reasons mentioned above). | 08:04 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: Because I get the feeling it's broken :( can I see the apt output? | 08:06 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: I just tried sudo apt-get install gimp and the terminal output is almost identical to the info I get when trying to install VLC: Missing dependencies and the xserver-xorg-video-nouveau info. | 08:07 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: Sure, how can I show you the apt output? | 08:07 |
| valorie | !paste | 08:07 |
| ubottu | For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 08:07 |
| Aquablue1704 | Ah thx valorie. | 08:08 |
| valorie | yw | 08:09 |
| valorie | lots of fun and useful stuff in that bot | 08:09 |
| lordievader | :) | 08:11 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: There you go -> http://imagebin.org/306443 | 08:11 |
| valorie | Aquablue1704: what lordievader means, is paste the whole command and output in there | 08:12 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: You know you can use autocomplete on my nick right? | 08:12 |
| valorie | copy by selecting | 08:12 |
| lordievader | And yes, I'd like to see the full output. | 08:12 |
| lordievader | Even though it is German I should be able to read it somewhat (I'm Dutch). | 08:13 |
| Aquablue1704 | Aaah kk, gotcha. Sorry for misunderstanding. I'm still a bit new to IRC and Kubuntu. :) | 08:13 |
| valorie | it's fine, we all started as beginners | 08:13 |
| valorie | some of us still are | 08:13 |
| valorie | :-) | 08:13 |
| Aquablue1704 | Kk, so what's the command you want me to copy and paste into the terminal? | 08:14 |
| lordievader | I know exactly how it feels, I'm a beginner with Gentoo. Most things I don't understand yet/ | 08:14 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: sudo apt-get install vlc | 08:16 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord & valorie: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7282137/ | 08:16 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: Try what apt suggests: sudo apt-get install -f | 08:17 |
| valorie | it's not scary when apt tells you too | 08:18 |
| Aquablue1704 | Kk, I did as suggested and this is what it tells me: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7282149/ | 08:19 |
| Aquablue1704 | It wants to download and install xserver-xorg-video-nouveau. | 08:19 |
| lordievader | Oh that's fine. | 08:19 |
| shadowbroker | hello, someone please help me | 08:19 |
| shadowbroker | i hit some Win + something combination and now its like my desktop reset | 08:20 |
| valorie | !ask | shadowbroker | 08:20 |
| ubottu | shadowbroker: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience | 08:20 |
| shadowbroker | all of my windows are gone and my background is the default | 08:20 |
| valorie | oops, sorry | 08:20 |
| valorie | by "reset", what do you mean? | 08:20 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: Kk, I installed it. | 08:20 |
| shadowbroker | i think it switched workspaces or something, but i had a bunch of windows open | 08:20 |
| shadowbroker | and now they're all gone from the taskbar | 08:20 |
| shadowbroker | so i think im in another desktop or workspace or something | 08:21 |
| shadowbroker | but none of the hotkeys for switching spaces are working for me | 08:21 |
| Meerkat | shadowbroker, try ctrl+alt+ arrow keys | 08:21 |
| shadowbroker | i have no idea where all of my stuff went O.o | 08:21 |
| shadowbroker | tried that | 08:21 |
| shadowbroker | nothing happens. i checked the settings and there is only 1 desktop | 08:21 |
| Aquablue1704 | @lord: Installation went fine -> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7282162/ <- I'll try to install something via Muon now. | 08:22 |
| shadowbroker | im on 14.04, if that matters | 08:22 |
| tsimpson | you probably pressed Win+Tab, try Win+Shift+Tab to go back to the previous activity | 08:22 |
| shadowbroker | i've confirmed through ps aux that my applications are still running | 08:22 |
| shadowbroker | tsimpson: tried that too :( | 08:22 |
| Aquablue1704 | Ha! It worked! It actually worked! I can install apps like usual via Muon once again. | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | tsimpson: OH! | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | im not sure if the shortcut is broken | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | but i found the activity tab | 08:23 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: Good to hear :) | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | and there are multiple there | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | one of which is called "Desktop" | 08:23 |
| shadowbroker | the other is called "New Activity" | 08:23 |
| Aquablue1704 | Thx a bunch lord and val for the support you guys gave me. I really appreciate it. | 08:24 |
| shadowbroker | i have no idea what i hit to create the new one, but win+shift+tab does *not* work | 08:24 |
| valorie | right, those are standard, shadowbroker | 08:24 |
| shadowbroker | the shortcuts dont work though? | 08:24 |
| valorie | Aquablue1704: good to hear you are underway again | 08:24 |
| valorie | the meta key obviously did.... | 08:24 |
| shadowbroker | apparently i managed to create two new activities without realizing it... and switching to one of them :/ | 08:25 |
| valorie | you can see the standard key combos in systemsettings | 08:25 |
| shadowbroker | but i cant seem to toggle between them | 08:25 |
| Aquablue1704 | Kk guys, I have to go buy some meat. It's egg hunting weekend here in Germany. I'll be back in about one hour. Thx again for all the help! | 08:25 |
| valorie | and some of those you can turn off or change | 08:25 |
| FlameReaper-PC | Right, apparently there's one TINY package that stopped from updating, I should've suspected that earlier when I've seen recommendations to look for errors in /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log | 08:26 |
| shadowbroker | valorie: which section? i cant seem to find it | 08:26 |
| FlameReaper-PC | It's update-manager-kde.., wait, does the command line UI of the do-release-upgrade show what packages it's going to remove? | 08:27 |
| valorie | up top, common appearance | 08:27 |
| valorie | then shortcuts and gestures | 08:27 |
| valorie | FlameReaper-PC: at some point it will, yes | 08:28 |
| FlameReaper-PC | ok | 08:28 |
| FlameReaper-PC | but removing 132 packages is a lot | 08:28 |
| shadowbroker | hm. i dont see anything on all three lists pertaining to activities.... | 08:28 |
| shadowbroker | aaaah found it | 08:29 |
| shadowbroker | global -> select component | 08:29 |
| shadowbroker | apparently i hit meta + Q | 08:29 |
| shadowbroker | while typing XP | 08:29 |
| shadowbroker | well thanks for the help. i was about to freak out :P gotta sleep now that that is all taken care of | 08:30 |
| lordievader | !pm | Aquablue1704 | 08:32 |
| ubottu | Aquablue1704: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. | 08:32 |
| lordievader | Aquablue1704: I don't use Quassel, can't say. | 08:32 |
| dhq | hey guys i am still stuggling on a crappy resolution after upgrade to 14.04 i tried playing with xrandr | 08:57 |
| dhq | please help | 08:57 |
| lordievader | dhq: Did you try the link I gave you? | 09:00 |
| dhq | yes | 09:00 |
| lordievader | dhq: And that didn't work? | 09:01 |
| dhq | X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) | 09:01 |
| dhq | on 13.10 i have been using 1920x1080 resolution | 09:01 |
| lordievader | dhq: Where did you get that error, what command? | 09:02 |
| dhq | xrandr --addmode VGA-0 1920x1080_60.00 | 09:03 |
| lordievader | dhq: I guess the settings for that mode are incorrect (invalid parameter) | 09:05 |
| dhq | xrandr --newmode "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync | 09:05 |
| dhq | this command executed fine | 09:06 |
| dhq | the next one is a problem | 09:06 |
| lordievader | dhq: That it executed fine does not mean the settings are correct. | 09:06 |
| dhq | lordievader: so what do i do ? | 09:06 |
| lordievader | dhq: Verify with the cvt commandthat the parameters are correct. | 09:08 |
| dhq | i did that | 09:11 |
| dhq | Modeline "1920x1080_60.00" 173.00 1920 2048 2248 2576 1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync | 09:11 |
| dhq | lordievader: i am confused | 09:12 |
| lordievader | dhq: Refresh rate is supported? | 09:13 |
| naftilos76 | hi, i just saw that ruby 1.8 was deleted from the repos. Does anybody have any clue how i can install ruby 1.8.7 in 14.04? | 09:13 |
| dhq | lordievader: how do i check that | 09:13 |
| lordievader | dhq: It is probably listed in the manual of your monitor. | 09:14 |
| dhq | mine is a tv and it does support | 09:14 |
| lordievader | dhq: Hmm, odd. This might help you, be sure to read it fully before executing things: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=114933 | 09:17 |
| dhq | ok will do | 09:17 |
| dhq | thanks :) | 09:18 |
| dhq | lordievader: I tried the command with scale the screen | 09:24 |
| dhq | it works but he screen appeares stretched | 09:24 |
| lordievader | dhq: Did you do the --fb first? | 09:24 |
| lordievader | See the screenshot that is posted. | 09:25 |
| dhq | lordievader: the half the image appears on the laptop screen | 09:30 |
| lordievader | dhq: Are you talking about the screenshot of the post or your own display? | 09:32 |
| dhq | my own | 09:32 |
| lordievader | You only did the --fb command? | 09:32 |
| dhq | i tried fb | 09:32 |
| dhq | then i did the scale | 09:33 |
| fcidraes | hi all, is there a guide to how to remaster ubuntu to kubuntu? the way kubuntu "is done" | 09:34 |
| lordievader | Hmm, just a thought. It might be that the correct driver is not loaded. dhq Could you give me the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA" | 09:36 |
| dhq | VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84M [GeForce 8600M GT] (rev a1) | 09:36 |
| dhq | Subsystem: Dell Device 022e | 09:36 |
| dhq | Kernel driver in use: nvidia | 09:36 |
| lordievader | dhq: That is the correct driver. Can you set the full-hd resolution in nvidia-xconfig? | 09:37 |
| lordievader | Or however the utility is called these days. | 09:37 |
| celtha | i have problems wit resolution on intel i5-4670 too | 09:38 |
| dhq | lordievader: no i used to be able to | 09:40 |
| lordievader | dhq: Does it error? | 09:42 |
| dhq | no error it just acts funny | 09:42 |
| lordievader | dhq: define acts funny. | 09:44 |
| dhq | lordievader: should i download the binary from the nvidia site ? | 09:44 |
| lordievader | dhq: What, why? | 09:45 |
| dhq | and install it to my system to have the latest driver | 09:45 |
| lordievader | dhq: I wouldn't do that. | 09:46 |
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| dhq | lordievader: so what do i do | 09:48 |
| lordievader | dhq: Honestly, I'm starting to run out of ideas. | 09:49 |
| lordievader | dhq: What resolution are you currently on? | 09:50 |
| dhq | 1360x768 | 09:50 |
| dhq | on a 42" inch monitor | 09:51 |
| lordievader | Did the nvidia config utility show 1920x1080? | 09:52 |
| dhq | before it did | 09:52 |
| dhq | now the max is 1360x768 | 09:52 |
| dhq | lordievader: i am gonna try building the new driver | 09:54 |
| dhq | lets see if it help | 09:55 |
| lordievader | Hope so. | 09:55 |
| dhq | /quit | 09:55 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 10:34 |
| tatanka14972 | hi | 10:56 |
| lordievader | o/ | 10:56 |
| tatanka14972 | i need solucion for gimp for kubuntu 14.04 | 10:56 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: What is the problem? | 10:57 |
| tatanka14972 | elimina kde window manager all instalacion krita or gimp | 10:57 |
| lordievader | !ve | 10:59 |
| tatanka14972 | all installation gimp or krita say: "elimination kde manager, kde desktop and kde workspace, but i need this kde | 11:00 |
| tatanka14972 | all installation gimp or krita say: "elimination kde manager, kde desktop and kde workspace". But, i need all KDE desktop app | 11:01 |
| lordievader | !spain | 11:01 |
| ubottu | En la mayorÃa de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 11:01 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: That is a very cryptic error message. | 11:01 |
| tatanka14972 | exist solution?? | 11:03 |
| tatanka14972 | this message show when instalation. no error | 11:03 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: How are you trying to install it? | 11:04 |
| tatanka14972 | center soft muon | 11:04 |
| tatanka14972 | for center soft muon discover | 11:05 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: Ok, what does apt say about it? In a terminal run: sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get install gimp | 11:05 |
| tatanka14972 | but this only install gimp 2.8 and. i dont now if this install killing my desktop kde | 11:07 |
| tatanka14972 | lordievader i know for console install gimp | 11:08 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: I'm sorry, what? | 11:09 |
| tatanka14972 | but, i afraid to harm my kde | 11:09 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: Installing gimp doesn't do that. It will probably pull in some GTK deps but that is the worst it does. | 11:11 |
| tatanka14972 | lordievader, install the console ignores warning hurt my kde desktop and change without warning | 11:12 |
| tatanka14972 | lordievader, these insurance | 11:13 |
| hkuieagle | my kde looks inconsistent after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, here is a screenshot: http://snag.gy/PvGTL.jpg | 11:15 |
| hkuieagle_ | my kde looks inconsistent after upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, here is a screenshot: http://snag.gy/PvGTL.jpg | 11:19 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: I really have no idea what you are talking about. | 11:19 |
| tatanka14972 | lordievader look http://snag.gy/7bAXY.jpg | 11:20 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: Could you pastebin the output of "sudo apt-get install gimp" (don't remove those packages) | 11:21 |
| lordievader | !paste | tatanka14972 | 11:21 |
| ubottu | tatanka14972: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 11:21 |
| tatanka14972 | ubottu thanks | 11:23 |
| ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 11:23 |
| hkuieagle_ | When I login as a guest, everything looks normal, seems like it's caused by some configurations. But it's no use to even if I delete .kde directory | 11:23 |
| hkuieagle_ | Anyone has encountered this problem or has some ideas? | 11:24 |
| tatanka14972 | ubottu, all started as bot, no??? | 11:24 |
| ubottu | tatanka14972: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 11:24 |
| tatanka14972 | yeah, no problem | 11:25 |
| Canid | Hi - did something stupid during upgrade and need help | 13:23 |
| lordievader | Canid: What did you do? | 13:24 |
| Canid | I didn't leave a note while kubuntu 14.04 upgrade was in progress (thought it would be done by morning) | 13:24 |
| lordievader | And? | 13:25 |
| Canid | Family came in - during clean-up phase I gather - and restarted it at a point when the screen went black | 13:25 |
| Canid | Not it it stuck with the wrong display resolution | 13:25 |
| lordievader | Canid: So where are you now? | 13:25 |
| lordievader | Canid: Open a terminal and run: sudo apt-get install -f | 13:26 |
| Canid | Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. | 13:26 |
| Canid | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. | 13:26 |
| Canid | (Want the full output?) | 13:27 |
| lordievader | Canid: Yes, but use some paste service. | 13:28 |
| lordievader | !paste | Canid | 13:28 |
| ubottu | Canid: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 13:28 |
| Akishona | hi there | 13:29 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7283946/ | 13:29 |
| Akishona | this message appeared when i tried to uninstall the package mentioned in the error message: The "openjdk-7-jre" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade: | 13:29 |
| Akishona | i just upgraded from 1204lts to 14lts | 13:30 |
| Canid | and xrandr output http://paste.ubuntu.com/7283958/ | 13:30 |
| Akishona | how can i unistall that package ? | 13:30 |
| Akishona | i received that kind of message when i tried to remove kde im aka kde telepathy | 13:30 |
| lordievader | Canid: Sounds like a driver is not properly installed, what is the output of "lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA"? | 13:32 |
| Canid | I'll tell you in a second, I'm trying a different driver on the list | 13:33 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7283987/ | 13:34 |
| Canid | It's listing the correct graphics card | 13:35 |
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| Canid | GeForce GTX 550 Ti is right, if memory serves | 13:35 |
| lordievader | Canid: But no driver is loaded ;) | 13:36 |
| lordievader | Installing and loading the driver will probably fix your resolution problem/ | 13:37 |
| Canid | it shows as installed in muon | 13:40 |
| lordievader | Canid: Remove and reinstall. | 13:40 |
| Canid | ok | 13:41 |
| melodie | hi | 13:41 |
| melodie | I would like to have information related to Kubuntu backports, is there a dedicated chan for their team? | 13:42 |
| Canid | I can't remove all the dependancies | 13:43 |
| lordievader | melodie: Ask away. Might very well be that people in here know. | 13:43 |
| lordievader | Canid: Ehh, what dependencies? | 13:43 |
| melodie | thanks lordievader | 13:43 |
| Canid | libcuda1-331 and nvidia-libopencl1-331 | 13:43 |
| melodie | I have installed the kdepim suite in an Openbox branded Ubuntu 12.04.4 then upgraded to backport to get the 4.12 version which seemed better. | 13:43 |
| lordievader | Canid: Meh, they can go too. With everything gone it should just fall back to nouveau. | 13:44 |
| melodie | I would like to know if other than the kdepim packages pulled in by the meta package, there is something more I should install to have it all working flawlessly? | 13:44 |
| Canid | The "libcuda1-331-updates" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade: | 13:44 |
| melodie | ie: the semantic Nepomuk desktop is not started | 13:45 |
| lordievader | Canid: Throw another, sudo apt-get install -f | 13:45 |
| melodie | well the window from the Nepomuk server configuration states it is, while the Mail I am sending to another of my mail addresses as test states it is nont | 13:46 |
| melodie | not | 13:46 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7284052/ | 13:46 |
| lordievader | Canid: Wat that after an "sudo apt-get remove nvidia-<some-version>"? | 13:47 |
| Canid | yes (though I did it from Muon) | 13:49 |
| Canid | But like I said, it won't let me remove 2 of the 4 packages | 13:50 |
| lordievader | Canid: I like apt for that, its more verbose. | 13:50 |
| Canid | E: Unable to locate package libcuda-331-updates | 13:54 |
| lordievader | Hmm, perhaps a apt-get update first. | 13:54 |
| melodie | kde-minimal does not exist anymore? Has any meta package replaced it? | 13:55 |
| Canid | Ran apt-get update and tried to remove libcuda again, same output | 13:56 |
| Canid | nvm | 13:58 |
| Canid | typo | 13:58 |
| Canid | it's removing now | 13:58 |
| Canid | Okay, going to reinstall them | 13:58 |
| Canid | output of lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA is still the same as before | 14:01 |
| lordievader | Canid: Did you reboot? | 14:04 |
| lordievader | Or modprobe the driver? | 14:04 |
| Canid | I didn't reboot - it didn't rpompt for that | 14:07 |
| Canid | What is modprobing? | 14:07 |
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| lordievader | Canid: Used for loading drivers: sudo modprobe nvidia | 14:08 |
| lordievader | Hmm, maybe it is not called that way. | 14:08 |
| pnunn | Is anyone else having problems with kwin crashing every time they resume their laptop? | 14:08 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7284199/ | 14:09 |
| lordievader | Well there is your problem, Canid | 14:09 |
| Canid | Okie... how do I fix it? :D | 14:10 |
| nightflier | Hi all, just dropping by testing my new 14.04 installation. Blown away that the dpi defaults and scaling are appropriate for a 1080p display. Awesome! | 14:11 |
| DarthFrog | sudo apt-get remove nvidia-331-updates | 14:11 |
| lordievader | Canid: Try a reboot, in the best case it is simply trying to load the previous install. | 14:11 |
| DarthFrog | sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 | 14:11 |
| lordievader | DarthFrog: I think he has just done so. | 14:12 |
| Canid | I did sudo apt-get install nvidia-331-updates but otherwise yes | 14:12 |
| Canid | Ok, restarting - I'll be back | 14:12 |
| DarthFrog | I've never found the nvidia-xxx-updates to be worth the hassle. | 14:13 |
| Canid | still the same output from modprobe nvidia | 14:19 |
| lordievader | Hmm, perhaps a purge -> reboot -> install works? | 14:22 |
| Canid | Can you be a bit more explicit with the instruction? *Canid is only a Linux Grasshopper* | 14:24 |
| lordievader | Canid: apt-get purge nvidia-<version> &&reboot&&apt-get install nvidia-<version? | 14:26 |
| lordievader | ?=> | 14:26 |
| bjrohan | I was on here briefly about 12 hours ago, but didn't have time to work through the help. When I now use Muon Update Manager, it lists a LOT of programs to update, and when I say install updates, it says it is waiting for the config file, and doesn't go anywhere | 14:26 |
| bjrohan | suggestions | 14:26 |
| Canid | Ok | 14:27 |
| shaikadzari | Hi everyone | 14:27 |
| Canid | restarting | 14:28 |
| shaikadzari | Just made the upgrade to 14.04, not being a fan of lightdm, I'm checking the alternative | 14:28 |
| melodie | hi shaikadzari | 14:29 |
| shaikadzari | KDM seems to be retired | 14:29 |
| shaikadzari | Was checking SDDM | 14:29 |
| melodie | what is it that you don't like in lightdm? the new look of lightdm? | 14:29 |
| shaikadzari | any opinion? | 14:29 |
| melodie | not very nice looking, might be improved in the future? | 14:29 |
| shaikadzari | I don't like the look and feel. Also, using 2 screen with different resolution | 14:30 |
| melodie | shaikadzari opinion when I will have booted a 14.04 in a few minutes | 14:30 |
| shaikadzari | the login box is wrong | 14:30 |
| melodie | shaikadzari do you need the login screen? If not you could boot directly to the desktop | 14:30 |
| melodie | yes, it feels weird | 14:30 |
| yofel | there's a more simply layout for lightdm that you can switch to in the settings | 14:30 |
| yofel | *simple | 14:30 |
| shaikadzari | I prefer to enter a password. I'm using encryptd home | 14:31 |
| yofel | kdm, while still supposed to work, doesn't get much testing | 14:31 |
| melodie | yofel say? | 14:31 |
| shaikadzari | Also, my laptop is resolution is 3200x1800 | 14:31 |
| melodie | and what about consolekit for authentication isn't that here anymore? | 14:31 |
| shaikadzari | login box is very small :) | 14:31 |
| yofel | consolekit is gone, it's logind now | 14:32 |
| melodie | yofel how can I check if my session is active? | 14:32 |
| shaikadzari | I may try to buidl this : https://github.com/sddm/sddm | 14:32 |
| melodie | loginctl is the answer :p | 14:32 |
| yofel | good to know ^^ | 14:33 |
| melodie | loginctl session-status <ID> | 14:34 |
| melodie | " loginctl list-sessions " gives the ID | 14:34 |
| melodie | among else | 14:35 |
| melodie | loginctl --help is very full | 14:35 |
| melodie | shaikadzari when using another login manager you will need to check if you have an active session, this is why I was fiddling with loginctl which I didn't know about until yofel told me about logind | 14:35 |
| melodie | because if your session is not active, there are things you won't be able to do, not having the autorisations | 14:36 |
| melodie | it can be accessing to internal drives, to usb drives or else | 14:36 |
| shaikadzari | Hum, I'm confused. Should it not be the job of SDDM to do that ? | 14:37 |
| melodie | shaikadzari this depends how well or bad it is configured | 14:40 |
| melodie | I have tested slim and nodm in Precise and I met with this issue, not active session, no access to other internal drives (other distros besides the one in use) | 14:41 |
| yofel | sddm should have proper logind support as it's rather new, so I would believe it'll handle it fine | 14:41 |
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| melodie | yofel is it packaged for Trusty? | 14:41 |
| yofel | no | 14:41 |
| melodie | yofel and do you know if that could depend of the pam authentication modules? | 14:41 |
| yofel | there's RFP in debian and a needs-packaging bug on launchpad. But so far nobody took it up | 14:42 |
| melodie | slim in Archlinux has a pam module and I use Slim with no issue, but not in Ubuntu Precise | 14:42 |
| Canid | lordievader: The purge & reboot worked - screen came back normal... | 14:42 |
| Canid | ...then nvidia-331-updates broke it again | 14:43 |
| Canid | so I purged and rebooted again | 14:43 |
| DarthFrog | so don't install the -updates version. | 14:43 |
| Canid | and this time tried nvidia-331 (no updates) | 14:43 |
| Canid | and it's booted properly | 14:43 |
| Canid | BUT | 14:43 |
| Canid | lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA shows the driver in use as nouveau | 14:44 |
| DarthFrog | Run "sudo nvidia-xconfig". | 14:44 |
| Canid | even though driver management says it's using nvidia-331 | 14:44 |
| Canid | ok | 14:44 |
| silv3r_m00n | hi there | 14:44 |
| silv3r_m00n | i first installed ubuntu and then installed kubuntu-desktop from apt, now how do i disable gnome related things ? | 14:45 |
| Canid | sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found | 14:45 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n you might have a hard time, although with some patience and luck... | 14:46 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n I have done a lot of distro customization since the last years, and I would not have proceeded that way | 14:46 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: it was wrong to do it like that, isnt it ? | 14:47 |
| melodie | not wrong, just you have used the difficult way | 14:47 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: i would be careful next time, but i have been continuing this installation for years now | 14:47 |
| melodie | you have to fire Synaptic and filter "gnome", then remove the gnome components, but you might break the install | 14:47 |
| lordievader | Canid: What happens when you try to modprobe it, same error? | 14:47 |
| Canid | modprobe: FATAL: Module nvidia not found. | 14:48 |
| lordievader | Canid: Did you purge it again? | 14:48 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: i dont want to remove gnome, i would rather keep it, just want to disable gnome things that might creep behind kde | 14:48 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n what about installing Kubuntu and upgrading, or install Trusty server if Kubuntu Trusty is not yet available, then build on it? | 14:48 |
| yofel | you can't modprobe nvidia while nouveau is loaded btw. | 14:48 |
| yofel | Canid: what does 'dkms status' say? | 14:48 |
| lordievader | yofel: Ah, didn't know that. | 14:48 |
| Canid | I purged - installed w. updates, purged, installed without updates - haven't purged again | 14:48 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: i already have lot of things on this machine, fresh install would be costly | 14:49 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n you mean gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-keyring, and I don't know what other gnome stuff ? Install htop, start htop in console and look what gnome processes are running? | 14:49 |
| silv3r_m00n | i just noticed that few icons pop in the taskbar area that are specific to gnome | 14:49 |
| lordievader | Canid: So the non-updates should be installed? | 14:49 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: yeah may be those, let me check | 14:49 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n for icons, there is a simple way | 14:49 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7284419/ | 14:49 |
| melodie | you create a folder having for name "applications" in /home/you/.local/share | 14:50 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: i got this, http://pastie.org/9093485 | 14:50 |
| Canid | lordievader: yes. And they are selected in the driver manager | 14:50 |
| yofel | hm, not good. all lines should look like the vboxhost one | 14:50 |
| melodie | you copy the desktop file related to icons from /usr/share/applications to ~/.local/share/applications (copy as user) | 14:50 |
| melodie | and in the user side you add a line in the files such as this: | 14:50 |
| yofel | Canid: does 'sudo dkms autoinstall' do anything? | 14:51 |
| Canid | I'm not sure how much of a problem it is at this point though... I mean the display is correct. I'm just concerned that it will effect my brother's use of Blender (3D rendering software) | 14:51 |
| melodie | Hidden=true | 14:51 |
| melodie | no more annoyed | 14:51 |
| lordievader | Canid: It will, 3d isn't one of the strengths of nouveau | 14:51 |
| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7284441/ | 14:52 |
| melodie | <silv3r_m00n> melodie: i got this, http://pastie.org/9093485 | 14:52 |
| lordievader | Canid: Can you install those headers ;) | 14:52 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n you can find to what package each belongs to, ie: | 14:52 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n "dpkg -S gdm-simple-slave" | 14:53 |
| melodie | will display a list, in which you should find the name of the package | 14:53 |
| Canid | E: Package 'linux-headers-3.8.0-29-generic' has no installation candidate | 14:53 |
| yofel | Canid: what release are you on? | 14:53 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n "at-spi2-registryd" is probably a file from the ati-spi package, not sure if you can remove it safely, you have to try and see what it would pull out | 14:54 |
| melodie | and same for goa-daemon : "dpkg -S goa-daemon" will give you information | 14:55 |
| Canid | 14.04 ... that's how this whole problem got started, with a bad upgrade | 14:55 |
| silv3r_m00n | melodie: i think i would leave it | 14:55 |
| yofel | ok, 3.8 was the raring kernel I believe, which you won't find anymore | 14:55 |
| silv3r_m00n | sounds too complex | 14:55 |
| yofel | Canid: please make sure 'linux-image-generic' is installed | 14:55 |
| yofel | linux-headers-generic too while at it | 14:55 |
| melodie | silv3r_m00n you can type the command lines and paste them to pastebin, I might be able to help you | 15:00 |
| melodie | I mean paste the output | 15:01 |
| Canid | restarting after linux-image-generic headers failed though | 15:01 |
| yofel | uhm, headers failing isn't good... | 15:03 |
| lordievader | Wonder why the headers failed. | 15:03 |
| melodie | do you have a version number which mismatches? | 15:04 |
| Canid | DKMS: install completed. | 15:11 |
| Canid | OKay... what now? | 15:11 |
| Canid | dkms status shows nvidia-304, 304.117, 3.13.0-24-generic, x86_64: installed | 15:12 |
| Canid | but lspci -k|grep -A2 VGA | 15:12 |
| Canid | still says the kernel driver in use is nouveau | 15:12 |
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| Canid1 | It says I just left the room... but I'm still here... | 15:21 |
| Canid1 | lordievader: any more suggestions? It's still using nouveau as the driver | 15:22 |
| BluesKaj | Canid1, try sudo lshw -C video , look for configuration: | 15:22 |
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| Canid | http://paste.ubuntu.com/7284666/ | 15:24 |
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| BluesKaj | Canid, ok that cpnfirms it. Which nvidia gpu do you have ? | 15:27 |
| BluesKaj | confirms | 15:27 |
| Canid | The one it says in the pastebin .... GeForce GTX 550 Ti | 15:28 |
| BluesKaj | right | 15:29 |
| lordievader | Canid: Have you restarted after the dkms thing? | 15:31 |
| Canid | Nope. I'll reboot again... here goes | 15:32 |
| Mekzholan | Hi, I have with 14.04 a very annoying bug in firefox and couldn't find anyone else with it: typing in a input field of a web page every few keys (inkl. arrow keys!) are replaced by some letters. E.g. typing "kubuntu" could end up as "kurfbuntr"... | 15:34 |
| Mekzholan | => Does anyone else have such a problem? Does a bug tracker entry exist? | 15:34 |
| Canid | driver is still nouveau | 15:36 |
| Mekzholan | Oh, and right now firefox doesn't react anymore :( | 15:36 |
| BluesKaj | Canid, that gpu should be able to run the 331 driveras it shows here http://www.geforce.com/drivers. Run sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 | 15:37 |
| Canid | BluesKaj: I had the same problem with he 331 drivers... that's why I tried 304 (last time I tried to get the drivers working for blender, the old version worked, but not the new one) | 15:38 |
| lordievader | Canid: Really strange, I don't know what the problem could be. | 15:38 |
| BluesKaj | on 14.04? | 15:39 |
| lordievader | After installing the headers have you reinstalled the driver? | 15:39 |
| Canid | But my Kubuntu 14.04 upgrade broke my driver config | 15:39 |
| Canid | Nope... I'll try that now | 15:39 |
| Canid | I'll purge again | 15:39 |
| lordievader | Canid: Just to be safe, purge, reboot, install | 15:39 |
| PasNox | Hi, i have upgraded from saucy to trusty, but i have bug problems during the upgrade. after tweaking a bit i hd something working. I can see i have kde 4.13, but kde-workspace and kde-window-manager are marked 4.11 ... is it normal ? | 15:48 |
| PasNox | looking into packages, ii can see a lot of 4.11 installed packages, and 4.13 ones.. | 15:49 |
| PasNox | is kde-workspace and kde-window-manager still packages for kde sc 4.13 ? can i uninstall them safety ? | 15:52 |
| Canid | no luck - still on the nouveau driver | 15:52 |
| lordievader | Canid: Too bad, I'm out of ideas... :( | 15:53 |
| soee | PasNox: it is part of KDE | 15:53 |
| soee | hi lordievader | 15:54 |
| PasNox | soee: ok, thanks | 15:54 |
| PasNox | soee: what is your kde-workspace installed package version ? | 15:55 |
| soee | PasNox: 4.11.9-ubuntu6 | 15:56 |
| soee | *8 | 15:56 |
| PasNox | ah still not 4.13, strange xD | 15:56 |
| PasNox | so all is ok for me. | 15:56 |
| PasNox | thanks | 15:56 |
| Canid | lordievader: I really appreciate the help - at least my screen resolution is fixed! | 15:57 |
| lordievader | Hey soee | 15:57 |
| soee | PasNox: you want to activate propriety drivers ? | 15:57 |
| Canid | I just hope it won't effect blender too much... but I'll leave it for now then | 15:57 |
| FReaper-PC | And after a few hours passed, goodbye Saucy, hello Trusty. :) | 15:58 |
| soee | :) | 15:58 |
| FReaper-PC | Thanks everyone for the tips and help. | 15:58 |
| PasNox | soee: no, i already have them ;) | 15:58 |
| soee | PasNox: ye ssorry it was to Canid | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | Canid, edit this file by adding nouveau to the bottom /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf . it will blacklist the nouveau driver and the nvidia driver should install successfully after reboot. | 16:00 |
| BluesKaj | oops he left , that's good , need to s | 16:01 |
| BluesKaj | correct | 16:01 |
| claydoh | PasNox: not every songe kde bit saw updates to to 4.13, so what you see for kde-workspace is actually correct. They don't push out the whole kit and kaboodle for every new release now, just what they have updated | 16:03 |
| PasNox | claydoh: ah ok! thanks for the informations | 16:04 |
| claydoh | still confusing though :) | 16:05 |
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| PasNox | anyboday having working flashplugin-nonfree with trusty 64bits ? | 16:09 |
| FReaper-PC | anyone using and reenabled the kubuntu backports ppa? | 16:09 |
| FReaper-PC | I'd like to update right away :) | 16:10 |
| PasNox | i have activated it - no problems | 16:12 |
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| PasNox | but i'm having libegl1-mesa upgrade problems, it conflict with kde-workspace / kde-window-manager | 16:12 |
| PasNox | but that's xorg edger ppa - | 16:12 |
| soee | PasNox: if you are using chromium browser try peppee flash | 16:17 |
| soee | *pepper | 16:17 |
| PasNox | yep i just see that - thanks | 16:18 |
| soee | also i do not recomment to use xorg edger ppa | 16:18 |
| rvdv | Using phpmyadmin I see an error about mcrypt not being loaded ... I have the package installed. Seems this bug already is there since 13.10 ... due to some site saying i needed to put mcrypt.so as extensions in php.ini ... apache is now complaining about wanting the ssl module ... | 16:18 |
| soee | rvdv: yes because of license | 16:18 |
| rvdv | But i do not want ssl | 16:18 |
| rvdv | ?? soee.. you have more info about that? | 16:19 |
| soee | rvdv: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19446679/mcrypt-not-present-after-ubuntu-upgrade-to-13-10 | 16:19 |
| soee | create the symbolic link etc. and it shoudl work | 16:19 |
| rvdv | soee: still get an error "Cannot find module ssl" | 16:22 |
| rvdv | symlink seemd already being there | 16:22 |
| rvdv | a2query -m ssl says the ssl module is disabled | 16:24 |
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| HarryRSole | I'm a long time Linux user but I just started using Kubuntu and the mail client is not easy for me to use. Like opening an attachment in Kmail, I'm stumped, can someone help? | 16:33 |
| HarryRSole | I don't see any icons or anything to click on to open the attachment | 16:35 |
| HarryRSole | I suppose that it's just something that I automatic should know, right | 16:38 |
| HarryRSole | Hello | 16:40 |
| BluesKaj | HarryRSole,, is this workplace pc? | 16:41 |
| HarryRSole | No, it's my wife's pc. | 16:41 |
| HarryRSole | I just installed Kubuntu 14.4 and I was trying to get everything set up for her. Then she brings the computer to me asking how to open an attachment and I didn't see anything obvious. | 16:44 |
| HarryRSole | Actually I looked high and low and it's not obvious to me at all. | 16:44 |
| BluesKaj | kmail has somebugs so I don't use it, mostly to do with the akonadi server...personally use thunderbird and I know it opens attachments | 16:45 |
| HarryRSole | She's always used Thunderbird and liked it fine, although I was look hard at kmail and kontact more for the functionality of being a personal organizer. | 16:48 |
| HarryRSole | I checked the box to leave messages on the server and it pulled everything off the server and in turn she lost everything off of her phone. KOpps,,,,Ks*^t,,,she's pissed! | 16:51 |
| shaikadzari | Hey everyone, how can I disable or stop baloo ? | 16:55 |
| shaikadzari | apt-get remove baloo does not seem to be a good idae :D | 16:56 |
| tatanka14972 | hi please what is kubuntu chat in spanish? | 16:57 |
| tatanka14972 | IRC chat kubuntu in spanish?? | 16:57 |
| shaikadzari | maybe looking here : https://wiki.kubuntu.org/SpanishTeam | 16:59 |
| shaikadzari | I don't understand spanish so I can't say if this page is helpful or not... | 17:00 |
| tatanka14972 | spanish for this chat IRC | 17:00 |
| OerHeks | !es | 17:00 |
| ubottu | En la mayorÃa de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 17:00 |
| tatanka14972 | i dont remember #kubuntu.es???? | 17:01 |
| OerHeks | nice, ubottu with ubuntu factoids... | 17:01 |
| OerHeks | :-D | 17:01 |
| tatanka14972 | ok #kubuntu-es | 17:01 |
| tatanka14972 | nice thanks | 17:02 |
| shaikadzari | Any suggestions for my question above? | 17:02 |
| aantonic | hello | 17:02 |
| aantonic | can anyone help me with installing falsh in Kubuntu 14.04? | 17:03 |
| aantonic | hello anybody home? | 17:04 |
| shaikadzari | I'm here | 17:04 |
| shaikadzari | you mean flash? | 17:05 |
| aantonic | yeah adobe flash plugin, how to install | 17:05 |
| aantonic | with tar or some other way | 17:05 |
| shaikadzari | apt-get install flashplugin-installer | 17:05 |
| shaikadzari | should get the job done | 17:06 |
| tatanka14972 | sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer | 17:06 |
| aantonic | oh ok thankx, how about if i need to update it later | 17:06 |
| shaikadzari | The package will update automatically | 17:06 |
| shaikadzari | using muon updater or apt-get | 17:07 |
| shaikadzari | no need to do it by hand | 17:07 |
| tatanka14972 | canal kubuntu in spanish?? | 17:07 |
| aantonic | thanx | 17:07 |
| shaikadzari | you're welcome | 17:07 |
| tatanka14972 | shaikadzari please, canal kubuntu spanish?? | 17:08 |
| shaikadzari | hum, sorry, I'm a simple user like you | 17:09 |
| shaikadzari | Do you have any issue? Can you try to ask your question here? | 17:09 |
| lordievader | tatanka14972: You where already given: #ubuntu-es | 17:12 |
| shaikadzari | ok, to answer my own question : echo 'Indexing-Enabled=false' >> $HOME/.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc | 17:13 |
| shaikadzari | kill baloo | 17:13 |
| shaikadzari | seems to work | 17:14 |
| apss | Hi... | 17:15 |
| apss | A u ok | 17:15 |
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| tatanka14972 | lordievader yeah i have #ubuntu-es | 17:18 |
| tatanka14972 | thanks | 17:18 |
| mfilipe | what is the package to install network-manager in kde4? | 17:55 |
| mfilipe | plasma-widget-networkmanagement | 18:01 |
| mfilipe | :) | 18:01 |
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| skreech_ | mfilipe: thanks :) | 18:21 |
| mfilipe | ;) | 18:21 |
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| melodie | I've tried Kdepim 4.13 in Ubuntu 14.4 just now, unfortunately it seems to provide "Create new groups" but no entry to add addresses to groups created | 18:52 |
| melodie | not found | 18:52 |
| melodie | in Kaddressbook (if someone has a clue? In the version 4.12 from backports / Ubuntu 12.04 the "create groups" button was greyed) | 18:53 |
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| Guest11064 | hi all, what does it mean when a keyboard and mouse stops working at login screen of a fresh install of Kubuntu 13.10? | 19:13 |
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| surfz^ | hey all, i installed Kubnutu 14.04 by mistake | 19:39 |
| surfz^ | i guess i thought it was the main distro they were showcasing on the landing page of Kubuntu.org | 19:39 |
| surfz^ | i meant to download and install 13.10 | 19:39 |
| surfz^ | i'd like to keep 14.04, how stable is it? | 19:40 |
| chachan | surfz^: how does it look so far? :p | 19:45 |
| surfz^ | chachan: it's pretty good, smooth and fast | 19:45 |
| surfz^ | i have my essential applications running, no hickups yet | 19:45 |
| surfz^ | hopefully it stays that way :) | 19:46 |
| chachan | surfz^: then have fun :) | 19:46 |
| cjwelborn | I am so confused, and pissed at the same time. I did a release upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04, it wrecked my Apache setup (due to Python3.4 being the default), but thats okay I can fix it. What really sucks is my laptop is very slow. Delays when starting programs, delays between keyboard/mouse activity. | 19:53 |
| cjwelborn | I think baloo is doing it | 19:54 |
| roney_ | cjwelborn, I was having the same problems | 19:54 |
| cjwelborn | Is baloo something I can disable? I don't know anything about it really. I think nepumok (spelling?) didn't have this problem. | 19:54 |
| roney_ | disabled baloo everything went back to normal | 19:55 |
| roney_ | you can't actually disable it | 19:55 |
| cjwelborn | roney_: did you uninstall/remove baloo, or disable it through other means? | 19:55 |
| roney_ | cjwelborn, I added my home folder to the places I don't it to index | 19:55 |
| roney_ | made the trick for me | 19:55 |
| roney_ | I don't want it to index* | 19:56 |
| cjwelborn | roney_: i see, that would probably help me because my home folder is huge. I'm gonna look into it. | 19:56 |
| roney_ | good luck | 19:56 |
| cjwelborn | roney_: thanks man, I read up on baloo, and adding ~/ to the ignored list. It kinda stops baloo in it's tracks, which is exactly what I needed. It worked well for me. I just rebooted, and there is no more crazy memory usage happening. What were they thinking with that? Geez.. | 20:15 |
| roney_ | cjwelborn, I share your feelings ... | 20:16 |
| andy123 | and so do I. It didnt use much memory or CPU for me, but the disk I/O was WAY too big. | 20:17 |
| andy123 | sudo iotop shows that | 20:19 |
| cjwelborn | hmm.. I just installed iotop. I didn't know about that one. Could come in handy in the future. Baloo was using more and more memory, everything was way too slow and Chrome would crash with a 'Not enough memory to load page" error. It sucked. | 20:21 |
| cjwelborn | So it made searching for answers and fixing my apache problem very frustrating. Problem solved though, thank god. | 20:22 |
| cjwelborn | I have 4GB of RAM, not that great, but surely enough to run Kubuntu under normal circumstances. | 20:23 |
| andy123 | I had similar problems when I was compiling OpenFOAM in parallel in my home folder. it got slower and slower | 20:24 |
| Etriaph | Anyone having an issue in 14.04 where the icon set you chose to use doesn't take the next time you login? | 20:25 |
| Etriaph | I'm using Compass as an icon set, and when I login it defaults to the default icons | 20:25 |
| Etriaph | I can switch it back, but it's annoying | 20:25 |
| lordievader | cjwelborn: Sysstat is also nice for keeping a look on what your system is doing. | 20:25 |
| cjwelborn | lordievader: ::looking at sysstat:: , thanks for the tip. | 20:26 |
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| dougl | I had a usable cups config in 2 clicks on my 14.04 install | 21:16 |
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| pez_ | hi | 21:21 |
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| Guest19864 | how much space is needed to upgreade from 12.04 to 14.04? | 21:22 |
| Guest19864 | i have a 10G partition (and a separate /home) | 21:23 |
| valorie | Guest19864: space really isn't an issue | 21:24 |
| valorie | if you have enough room for 12.04, you have enough room | 21:25 |
| Guest19864 | but it is | 21:25 |
| valorie | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades/Kubuntu/12.04LTS | 21:25 |
| Guest19864 | distro update says it needs another 13.8 G space | 21:25 |
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| valorie | ! | 21:25 |
| valorie | where are you seeing this error message? | 21:26 |
| valorie | and describe exactly what you did | 21:27 |
| andy123 | my root partition is 13G. 10G may only be enough, when you need few additional packages | 21:27 |
| Guest19864 | after upgrade tool has started and before the package changes window | 21:28 |
| valorie | Sysinfo for 'valorie-HP-Pavilion-dv7-Notebook-PC': Running inside KDE 4.13.0 on Ubuntu 14.04, Trusty Tahr powered by Linux 3.13.0-24-generic, CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) II P960 Quad-Core Processor at 800-1800/1800 MHz, RAM: 5045/5712 MB, Storage: 424/528 GB, 212 procs, 25.48h up | 21:28 |
| valorie | is mine | 21:29 |
| valorie | I guess I have a lot of space, and have never run into this issue | 21:31 |
| valorie | I hope someone who has dealt with small HD space will speak up | 21:31 |
| Guest19864 | i see | 21:31 |
| Guest19864 | thanks for the help | 21:31 |
| valorie | well, I didn't help much | 21:32 |
| valorie | i hope someone else can | 21:32 |
| Guest19864 | at least you tried :) | 21:32 |
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| Guest19864 | tx | 21:36 |
| Guest19864 | bye | 21:36 |
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| alesan | hi, how can I start the upgrade to 14.04 manually? | 22:25 |
| melodie | alesan simple | 22:27 |
| melodie | http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/upgrade | 22:27 |
| melodie | with images! :D | 22:28 |
| alesan | it says: unable to get exclusive lock | 22:28 |
| alesan | when I select the upgrade option from the muon | 22:28 |
| alesan | melodie, I do not have gnome | 22:28 |
| melodie | neither do I | 22:29 |
| alesan | so why is the link you gave me relevant? | 22:29 |
| melodie | alesan type in the console: | 22:29 |
| alesan | ok | 22:29 |
| melodie | update-manager -d | 22:29 |
| melodie | alesan because whatever desktop you have, you can have update-manager installed, provided it is an ubuntu | 22:30 |
| melodie | so you can figure out how to start update-manager | 22:30 |
| alesan | The program 'update-manager' is currently not installed. bla bla | 22:30 |
| melodie | alesan do you know how to install it? | 22:31 |
| alesan | I am not sure I want to install it let's see the dependancies | 22:31 |
| melodie | alesan you don't care about the depends, you can always remove them later | 22:31 |
| alesan | E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | 22:31 |
| alesan | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ | 22:31 |
| melodie | sudo apt-get autoremove --purge | 22:31 |
| alesan | the same problem I was experiencing before | 22:32 |
| melodie | do you have Synaptic opened? | 22:32 |
| alesan | no I do not even have it installed | 22:32 |
| melodie | if not: remove /var/cache:apt/archives/lock | 22:32 |
| melodie | sudo rm if not: remove /var/cache:apt/archives/lock | 22:32 |
| melodie | sudo rm /var/cache:apt/archives/lock | 22:32 |
| melodie | and you are good to go | 22:32 |
| melodie | sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/lock | 22:32 |
| melodie | I had a : in the middle, not good | 22:33 |
| melodie | who has put up the version of Ubuntu that you have? | 22:33 |
| alesan | fuser is telling me that "/usr/bin/python /tmp/ubuntu-release-upgrader-l1av41/trusty --mode=desktop --frontend=DistUpgradeViewKDE" is holding the lock | 22:35 |
| melodie | alesan are you good, did you remove the lock? | 22:35 |
| alesan | no, as there is a process that still has it open | 22:35 |
| alesan | I kiled that process and now the lock's gone | 22:35 |
| melodie | good | 22:35 |
| alesan | let's see if muon works now | 22:35 |
| melodie | what is muon ? | 22:35 |
| alket | software manager, install, remove, update etc. | 22:36 |
| melodie | don't start too many processes if you want to upgrade easily | 22:36 |
| melodie | why don't you install from console? | 22:36 |
| melodie | sudo apt-get install update-manager | 22:36 |
| alesan | melodie, you are on #kubuntu and you... do not know what is muon? | 22:36 |
| melodie | simple and faster | 22:36 |
| melodie | alesan I had to ask questions about kdepim, I'm not a kde user | 22:36 |
| melodie | I use Openbox for all needs | 22:36 |
| melodie | and Openbox goes along well with Lxde, with Gnome and with KDE as well | 22:37 |
| melodie | nice friendly versatile window manager | 22:37 |
| valorie | muon will update | 22:37 |
| valorie | you don't need update manager | 22:37 |
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| valorie | of course you can always update from the cli as well | 22:38 |
| melodie | hi valorie :) | 22:38 |
| valorie | hi melodie | 22:38 |
| melodie | I didn't know you were a KDE user :) | 22:38 |
| valorie | oh yes, for many years | 22:38 |
| valorie | over 10 I guess | 22:38 |
| melodie | I always manage, as long as there is a console/konsole/terminal :D | 22:38 |
| melodie | ok :) | 22:38 |
| valorie | sure, that's faster | 22:38 |
| valorie | but it's great that people have easy gui ways to do things | 22:39 |
| melodie | ValicekB I have a story about that | 22:39 |
| alesan | guys - maybe you do not understand that apt-get was giving me a E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) | 22:39 |
| valorie | yes, I understand | 22:39 |
| valorie | usually one can just wait that out | 22:39 |
| valorie | probably more healthy than killing the process, etc. | 22:39 |
| melodie | I was a newbie, just a few months using a computer and linux boxes and I had Ubuntu Hoary in the hands since a few months, when I met my boy-friend who was an advanced user. | 22:39 |
| melodie | he was completely lost in the gnome menus and stuff of the desktop | 22:40 |
| alket | valorie: I agree | 22:40 |
| melodie | I finally felt completely pitiful and hit Ctrl+Alt+F1 for him. XD | 22:40 |
| melodie | so that he'd be more comfortable (which I was not in consoles at that time) | 22:41 |
| valorie | alesan: www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 gives you some possibilities, depending on from what you are upgrading | 22:41 |
| melodie | valorie at that time that felt very funny, as a newbie I could manage my way in the desktop.. him had to have a console. | 22:42 |
| valorie | this is why the gui is important | 22:43 |
| valorie | if we want more users | 22:43 |
| melodie | valorie and very conscious of that, because my clients are very end users | 22:45 |
| valorie | alesan: did that help? | 22:45 |
| melodie | I was sticking here hoping for a miracle with the kdepim suite, but I don't find happiness with it either | 22:45 |
| valorie | miracle? | 22:46 |
| melodie | I have tried several versions from it up to the 4.13 | 22:46 |
| valorie | what difficulty are you having, melodie? | 22:46 |
| melodie | a gui app which allows using addressbook with categories to send mails to small groups of people interested to attend to some events | 22:46 |
| valorie | yes | 22:46 |
| melodie | something to really replace fully and reliably Outlook Express on the desktop of that man who is a client and a friend at same time | 22:47 |
| valorie | good idea, yes | 22:48 |
| valorie | you say you don't find happiness -- what is the difficulty? | 22:48 |
| melodie | I have seen "create new group" in version 4.12 installed from backports in 12.04, but the button was grayed, so I have started Ubuntu Trusty which I had in a vbox and there installed the kdepim suite, | 22:48 |
| melodie | I am explaining just now | 22:48 |
| valorie | ok | 22:48 |
| melodie | in the 4.13 the button was not grayd, but once the category created it does not appear anywhere: no way to create categories where you can easily put inside a bunch of contacts imported from elsewhere | 22:49 |
| valorie | hmmm | 22:49 |
| valorie | sounds like a definite bug | 22:50 |
| valorie | I suggest asking in #kontact | 22:50 |
| melodie | the only use I have found to address the current problem, is that kaddressbook has been the only program able to import then convert a file coming from "contacts" from w7, and exported there to csv | 22:50 |
| valorie | unfortunately this is Easter weekend in Europe, so it may be very slow | 22:50 |
| melodie | valorie perhaps tomorrow then or other days | 22:50 |
| valorie | right | 22:50 |
| melodie | it's midnight here and I have also battled with the Evolution groupware | 22:51 |
| valorie | but this is where you'll find the developers | 22:51 |
| melodie | other issues there | 22:51 |
| melodie | I am too tired now :) | 22:51 |
| melodie | battle lasts since several days | 22:51 |
| valorie | here we simply package it, and afaik none of our team is involved with PIM development | 22:51 |
| valorie | also you might look in bugs.kde.org and see if this has been reported | 22:51 |
| valorie | and add your information | 22:52 |
| melodie | you information is good because I didn't know about the #kontact chan, so I keep it in mind | 22:52 |
| valorie | great! | 22:52 |
| melodie | sure | 22:52 |
| melodie | I just come back from a bug report at gnome, I will but not all in a raw, this is quite tiring :D | 22:52 |
| valorie | it can be, yes | 22:52 |
| valorie | but really useful input for the devels | 22:53 |
| melodie | less tiring to put the guy back to a windows in virtualbox ... | 22:53 |
| melodie | XD | 22:53 |
| valorie | and built-in testing base from those who report the bug | 22:53 |
| melodie | valorie hopefully useful, hopefully it leads some day to improvements | 22:53 |
| valorie | I don't know win at all anymore | 22:53 |
| valorie | I would be lost | 22:53 |
| valorie | and I don't want to spend the time to learn it again | 22:54 |
| melodie | well the OS is crummy and comes with apps that work well (when the basis does not fail) | 22:54 |
| melodie | I spend the less time possible in any Windows OS | 22:54 |
| melodie | this is a pain to me | 22:54 |
| melodie | valorie it has been nice talking with you. I will wish you a good evening and here will call it a night for me. :) | 22:55 |
| melodie | see you! and thanks for your pointer. | 22:55 |
| Etriaph | valorie: Are you a Kubuntu user or do you contribute to Kubuntu? | 22:57 |
| valorie | both | 22:57 |
| Etriaph | Then I want to thank you :) | 22:58 |
| valorie | I've been a user for many years, although I can't recall how long | 22:58 |
| valorie | started contributing a few years ago, and love the team | 22:58 |
| Etriaph | I've been using KDE since 0.92 | 22:58 |
| valorie | you are welcome! | 22:58 |
| valorie | wow! | 22:58 |
| valorie | I was using KDE from the 3.x sometime | 22:59 |
| Etriaph | I switched to just Enlightenment or WindowMaker (I switched back and forth) for a while to | 22:59 |
| valorie | now very much involved in KDE as well | 22:59 |
| Etriaph | Just because my hardware wasn't great. | 22:59 |
| Etriaph | Plasma Desktop is the smartest move they ever made. | 22:59 |
| valorie | I've tried other desktops, but come back to KDE within the day | 22:59 |
| valorie | and the community is home | 23:00 |
| Etriaph | I played with the latest GNOME, just because I want to give it an honest shot, but I get frustrated within 30 minutes | 23:00 |
| valorie | Etriaph: can we take this to offtopic? | 23:00 |
| valorie | #kubuntu-offtopic | 23:00 |
| Etriaph | Ah, sure :) | 23:00 |
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| Danny | hello | 23:13 |
| valorie | how can we help ya Danny-gone | 23:14 |
| KRocco | Hello | 23:22 |
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| ziew | hi, how to enable java with chromium? (java is installed and it works with firefox) | 23:26 |
| rocco | im still on K-12.04!!!! | 23:27 |
| rocco | reaaly need the update?? | 23:27 |
| rocco | really* | 23:27 |
| bprompt | ziew: maybe about:plugins ? | 23:30 |
| bprompt | rocco: do you ? | 23:30 |
| ziew | bprompt: there is no java listed there | 23:31 |
| rocco | im happy with 12.04, is not perfect but works bprompt | 23:31 |
| bprompt | rocco: so am I =) | 23:31 |
| rocco | i just update KDE | 23:31 |
| rocco | 4.12.3 | 23:31 |
| rocco | 4.13 is not around... | 23:31 |
| bprompt | hmmm right... I did install 14.04 with kde 4.12.97 and I didn't see much difference between that and 4.08 and one app I use didn't go so....I saw no need to stick with it | 23:32 |
| valorie | rocco: www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 | 23:33 |
| rocco | thanks valorie | 23:33 |
| rocco | im too lazy to upgrade.. | 23:33 |
| valorie | it does take awhile, for sure | 23:33 |
| rocco | yeah.. | 23:33 |
| valorie | easier than installing anew, though | 23:34 |
| rocco | right | 23:34 |
| bprompt | ziew: hmm iirc 14.04 uses oracle's java 8, which is downloadable from oracle -> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/install-oracle-java-8-in-ubuntu-via-ppa.html | 23:34 |
| valorie | my son says the opposite; installing is quick and he'd rather do that | 23:34 |
| rocco | he is young Xd | 23:34 |
| valorie | ziew: what isn't working in chromium? | 23:34 |
| ziew | java | 23:34 |
| valorie | that's what I use, and I haven't seen anyproblems | 23:34 |
| ziew | do i have to instal java-8 instead -7 at 14.04? | 23:35 |
| bprompt | hmmm well, for me I'd rather do anew.... the .iso is 1gb so no biggie | 23:35 |
| valorie | what specifically isn't working though? | 23:35 |
| bprompt | ziew: afaik 14.04 requires 8 | 23:35 |
| ziew | chromium do not see java | 23:35 |
| ziew | java works with firefox | 23:35 |
| valorie | to do *what* specifically? | 23:36 |
| olimpic | \server irc.irc-hispano.org | 23:36 |
| valorie | olimpic: you'll need to do that command in your irc client | 23:36 |
| valorie | right now, you're in freenode IRC | 23:36 |
| bprompt | in irc is usually -> /server ..... | 23:37 |
| ziew | bprompt: how to install java8 on 14.04? | 23:38 |
| valorie | bprompt: does that *change* servers, or just add another? | 23:38 |
| rocco | brb.. | 23:38 |
| bprompt | valorie: depends on the client, on say xchat iirc it just loads another on another tab | 23:38 |
| valorie | cool, I've never tried that | 23:39 |
| valorie | I set it up in the konversation options to join 3 servers | 23:39 |
| bprompt | on other irc clients like mirc, it simply quits the current and loads the new one, in mirc you'd have to do ... I think is /mserver or so | 23:39 |
| valorie | I'll try it next time i want to chat on oftc, maybe | 23:40 |
| valorie | also, I usually see server/channel like: irc://irc.freenode.net/kubuntu | 23:41 |
| ziew | i've installed java8 on 14.04. - how to enable it in chromium? | 23:47 |
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