[00:07] <koell> wow :D
[00:08] <koell> u may ask Unit193 :)
[00:08] <koell> if he is on, or where is philw?
[00:09] <Unit193> logis: Tried configuring Xorg?
[00:09] <Unit193> !xorgconf
[00:12] <logis> i already try that on teletype 1/tty1 => stop lightdm and execute X -configure
[00:12] <logis> but error missing (if i can recall corectly those error message)
[00:13] <logis> i think the error like this KMS drm modesetting not suported
[00:13] <logis> i boot with parameter radeon.modeset = 0
[00:14] <logis> coz without those params it freeze
[00:37] <LarrySteeze> hello folks!
[00:37] <ianorlinlaptop> hi can I help?
[00:38] <LarrySteeze> So I just upgraded my in-laws PC to 14, and unfortunately it now boots to a black screen with a cursor that moves. I'm able to switch to console mode and everything works except the gui
[00:38] <LarrySteeze> thoughts?
[00:38] <ianorlinlaptop> what kind of graphics does it have?
[00:38] <LarrySteeze> graphics card, you mean?
[00:38] <ianorlinlaptop> yes
[00:39] <LarrySteeze> It shouldn't be an issue with the card, as the display works just fine. That being said, it's an integrated intel gpu
[00:39] <LarrySteeze> I'm also not getting any failures at boot
[00:39] <LarrySteeze> Everything shows success, it just doesn't appear to "finish" booting the gui
[00:40] <ianorlinlaptop> did it work in live session or did you use alt installer
[00:40] <LarrySteeze> I used the alt installer
[00:41] <LarrySteeze> I actually installed the update from console
[00:41] <LarrySteeze> They were running 12
[00:42] <LarrySteeze> I didn't have the ability when I was at their place, but I think I'm going to download the distro onto a stick and bring it over tomorrow.
[00:47] <koell> ianorlin: <3
[00:48] <koell> all the cool guys like ianorlin still here <3
[00:49] <LarrySteeze> ianorlin: you heard of that problem with anyone before?
[00:49] <koell> im so sorry for trying arch and other distros, but now im back to 14.04 first LTS and i must say: AWESOME!
[00:57] <ianorlin> LarrySteeze: Have you tried starting lightdm?
[00:57] <ianorlin> also see !nomodeset
[00:57] <ianorlin> !nomodeset
[00:57] <LarrySteeze> I did. I stopped it then started it
[00:57] <ianorlin> still no display?
[00:58] <ianorlin> is there anything in ~/Xsessionerrors
[00:58] <LarrySteeze> There is a display, just not a fully functional gui. It's like it only partially loads. I have a black background and a cursor. Also, the software center does load wanting me to update one of their applications
[00:59] <LarrySteeze> there is nothing in the sessionerrors
[01:00] <ianorlin> does right clicking do anything?
[01:00] <LarrySteeze> Come to think of it, I don't know if I tried to right click. I feel like I did and didn't have any reaction, but I can't say for sure.
[01:01] <LarrySteeze> Clicking on the window that does pop up is responsive. I did attempt to update the software, but then the software center does not actually load
[01:01] <LarrySteeze> I probably should have known better than to update my in-laws machine. I'm just trying to get them to stop using XP
[01:02] <ianorlin> I think you may have logged into openbox
[01:02] <ianorlin> or it automatically did
[01:02] <LarrySteeze> I can't think of any reason that it would have
[01:04] <LarrySteeze> What's strange to me is even after stopping lightdm and installing kde, I can't get kde to start because it can't find x (x is obviously installed), and startx hangs
[01:06] <ianorlin> how did you install kde kubuntu-desktop?
[01:08] <LarrySteeze> you're right
[01:08] <LarrySteeze> that's where I screwed up
[01:08] <ianorlin> from command line?
[01:09] <LarrySteeze> yes. I forgot I had them on ubuntu...even though I knew it was lubuntu
[01:10] <ianorlin> what does /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf have as its contents?
[01:10] <LarrySteeze> I did it as if I was in arch
[01:10] <LarrySteeze> I'm not at their house at the moment, so unfortunately I can't tell you that right now
[01:10] <LarrySteeze> (it's a desktop)
[01:11] <ianorlin> where you in expert mode andd not connected to the internet or sometihng?
[01:11] <LarrySteeze> I'm making a bootable usb drive at the moment and hoping that solves it.
[01:11] <LarrySteeze> I was connected to the internet. I used apt-get
[01:11] <ianorlin> during the install or after?
[01:11] <LarrySteeze> both
[01:13] <ianorlin> running more than one package manager at a time is bad and is locked most of the time
[01:13] <LarrySteeze> eh?
[01:13] <LarrySteeze> I only used apt-get
[01:14] <ianorlin> still command line package manager I am suprised it was not locked
[01:14] <LarrySteeze> I did add some repos but that's about it. I did not attempt to use software center simultaneously. I only tried to use that after the fact when nothing else was working.
[01:14] <LarrySteeze> I sudo'ed it if that's what you mean
[01:14] <ianorlin> oh might be taking during install wrong
[01:15] <LarrySteeze> What do you mean by that
[01:16] <ianorlin> I am thinking during install meaning while the os was installing you switched to a terminal and then went and sudo apt-get installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:16] <LarrySteeze> no
[01:17] <LarrySteeze> I waited until the install was complete before doing anything. Anyway, if it was in the middle of an install and I switched to console (I did not open a terminal window), I would have seen the commands streaming and would have had to ctrl+c to break
[01:17] <LarrySteeze> And that would have been a very poor decision.
[01:19] <UrielVigilant> Iam sad, because this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/ dont work with 14.04 as still work with 13.10 , lubuntu and ubuntu ? why ? please give me a slution that i cant find no where in the internet !
[01:20] <LarrySteeze> slut ion?
[01:20] <LarrySteeze> :D
[01:21] <UrielVigilant> ;o)
[01:23] <UrielVigilant> almost woman vagabond does  nit ?
[01:26] <SonikkuAmerica> UrielVigilant: For BCM4311 cards you should use the b43 driver
[01:27] <UrielVigilant> My lucky is that i just trying this on a usb stick live persistent ! I still using 13.10 on hard disk! But with a so revolutionary version this things must stop happens doesn it ? When i get the Euromillions prize, i will pay for a team to work on this , believe me !
[01:27] <SonikkuAmerica> lol
[01:28] <SonikkuAmerica> We *have* a solution: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43
[01:28] <UrielVigilant> SonikkuAmerica , please tell me what it was the difference, betwweeen, before and with this version ?
[01:30] <SonikkuAmerica> The package you should install, instead of linux-firmware-nonfree, is firmware-b43-installer
[01:30] <UrielVigilant> SonikkuAmerica , that s it will be a new way to install this bmc stuff ?
[01:31] <UrielVigilant> ok my friend ...
[01:31] <UrielVigilant> i need to remove the old one ? how to , in console ?
[01:32] <UrielVigilant> sudo apt-get remove --purge bcmwl-kernel-source  ? ?
[01:34] <SonikkuAmerica> Or just [ sudo apt-get purge bcmwl-kernel-source ]
[01:34] <Guest88923> i have a pae computer and waited for 14.04.  However i am getting an error still.  i could use some guidance
[01:35] <UrielVigilant> Thank you so much,, SonikkuAmerica, i will ty once again
[01:35] <UrielVigilant> ( ty = TRy) ;o)
[01:56] <UrielVigilant>  Sonikku you help doesn it work at all ! See the rsult alive : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/
[02:03] <logis> still no luck with my problem...
[02:10] <Guest88923> I am getting an error.  the error is http://pastebin.com/Xp3qTjvE
[02:12] <Guest88923> any help would be appreciated
[02:13] <holstein> Guest88923: your hardware doesnt support the kernel you are trying to use
[02:13] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu-fake-PAE
[02:16] <Unismurfhedgehog> Guest88923: You'll first need to install Lubuntu 12.04, then install the linux-image-generic-pae package, then run [ do-release-upgrade -cd ] to check if 14.04 shows up.
[02:17] <Unismurfhedgehog> (But you may want to try upgrading to 12.10 first, because 12.04 isn't an LTS)
[02:18] <holstein> you should be able to do it in 14.04
[02:18] <Unismurfhedgehog> Guest88923: Or, on the Live image, you can hit TAB and add "forcepae" to the end of the line. This isn't supported, though.
[02:18] <holstein> 12.04 should "just work.. but, 12.04 is not supported
[02:18] <Guest88923> it's a system that has no os
[02:19] <Guest88923> can't do it in 14.04 unless i forcepae correct
[02:19] <Guest88923> isn't supported as in it will have problems?
[02:19] <holstein> Guest88923: fakepae should help
[02:19] <holstein> Guest88923: no.. you just need to have the right combination
[02:19] <holstein> Guest88923: the kernels are all pae now
[02:20] <Guest88923> isn't 14.04 the first "supported" version?
[02:20] <Guest88923> what am i missing?
[02:20] <ianorlin> first long term support version
[02:20] <Guest88923> so, 12.04 first, then 12.10, then 14.04
[02:20] <Guest88923> so, 12.10 was not a lts?
[02:21] <Guest88923> isn't lts the only supported version?
[02:21] <Unismurfhedgehog> Guest88923: You missed what I said earlier, you can press TAB when the Live image boot screen shows up, type a space followed by "forcepae" and hit ENTER.
[02:21] <Unismurfhedgehog> (14.04 LTS' Live image)
[02:21] <Guest88923> i've got the alterantive version
[02:21] <holstein> lubuntu 12.04 is not LTS
[02:22] <holstein> ubuntu 12.04 was, so the repos are hot
[02:22] <Guest88923> so i need to download the live version
[02:22] <holstein> ^^ that is just in the normal 14.04 installer
[02:22] <holstein> the "Forcepae" option suggested above, and in the error message you recieved
[02:22] <Guest88923> repos are hot?  what does that mean?
[02:23] <Guest88923> isn't there a way to pass forcepae at the command line?
[02:23] <Guest88923> via modes
[02:23] <Guest88923> or via other options
[02:24] <Guest88923> on 14.04?
[02:25] <holstein> Guest88923: yes
[02:25] <holstein> Guest88923: you do it like Unismurfhedgehog and the error message suggests
[02:26] <holstein> Guest88923: you boot the normal 14.04 you have, and "you can press TAB when the Live image boot screen shows up, type a space  followed by "forcepae" and hit ENTER.
[02:26] <Guest88923> k, i c
[02:26] <Guest88923> got it
[02:26] <holstein> Guest88923: please try that first
[02:27] <holstein> then, you can refer to the fakepae link i gave, if that doesnt work.. or consider 12.04, which is *not* officially supported anymore, though, ubuntu 12.04 is still supported, sot he repos are still active (=hot)
[02:27] <Guest88923> ok, but didn't the error message say pae not enabled?
[02:27] <holstein> Guest88923: so, try enabling the "forcepae" option. . .have you?
[02:30] <Guest88923> i have and am working on the install
[02:52] <Guest88923> what is pae
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> !PAE
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Errr...
[02:52] <SonikkuAmerica> Physical Address Extension lets one address more than 4 GB of RAM
[02:53] <Guest88923> ya, nm
[02:53] <SonikkuAmerica> in fact, up to 64 GB of RAM
[02:53] <Guest88923> so, it allowed me to create a16gb a 40gb and a 2gb swap partition in a 40gb space  confusing
[03:04] <Guest88923> what is the smallest size lubuntu will take for a vanilla install?
[03:05] <holstein> Guest88923: depends
[03:06] <holstein> Guest88923: theres not much smaller, stock OS's that are "Full featured"
[03:06] <holstein> there are lighter, but not much lighter, and i personally find it to be a nice balance
[03:06] <holstein> you can trim it up as much as you like. or
[03:06] <holstein> !mini
[03:06] <holstein> and add just what you want
[03:07] <Guest88923> actually it's for a new linux user, however i only have 40gb to work with
[03:07] <holstein> wont make your machine faster though.. taking up less space on the disk
[03:08] <Guest88923> what's the base size for a vanilla install.  is that information available on the web?
[03:08] <SonikkuAmerica> What will is zram
[03:09] <holstein> !zram
[03:10] <holstein> Guest88923: i thought you were installing it?
[03:10] <Guest88923> i am
[03:10] <holstein> Guest88923: just check when you are done
[03:11] <Guest88923> i think you misunderstand the question.  if i pick 1gb for the / partition but the base install is 3gb, it's not going to fit
[03:11] <holstein> Guest88923: you said new linux user?
[03:11] <holstein> Guest88923: just do it all in one partition
[03:11] <holstein> Guest88923: do the defaults
[03:11] <Guest88923> i don't.  if it is necessary to rescue the system, having the home partition by itself lends itself to data recovery
[03:11] <holstein> Guest88923: ok
[03:11] <holstein> Guest88923: i would want 5gb's
[03:12] <holstein> Guest88923: i would put them all in one partition
[03:12] <holstein> Guest88923: having seperate patitions on the same disk doesnt really do as much as one thinks
[03:12] <holstein> its not like the new user can get lazt and somehow recover files off the disk any easier if it fails and had 2 partitions instead of one
[03:13] <holstein> there is literally the only advantage of seperate home for personal data if they were going to hop around.. which is fine
[03:13] <holstein> but, for a new user, i would do all in one, since you dont know what they want, or will do
[03:13] <Guest88923> having a home partition allows me to maintain configuration and install the new version of lubuntu " clean"
[03:14] <Guest88923> they will use it like windows
[03:14] <holstein> you do all but 4gb's or 5 for the /home, and they go with a larger linux, and you are mess up
[03:14] <holstein> its not fool proof, and the defualts of one partitions are suggested for new users
[03:14] <holstein> i mean, do what you like, and i would want 5gb's
[03:22] <Guest88923> i just used the entire disk.  lubuntu partition manager would not break up the disk correctly
[04:02] <Guest88923> installation complete.  same problem as laptop A.  no network
[04:02] <Guest88923> no wireless
[04:02] <holstein> Guest88923: sure
[04:02] <holstein> !wifi
[04:03] <holstein> Guest88923: it can be challenging when the chips dont support linux
[04:03] <Guest88923> seen it last night
[04:03] <holstein> Guest88923: ive seen it for years.. some manufactuerers make it challenging
[04:03] <Guest88923> Intel Corporation PRO Wireless 2200BG [Calexioc2] Network Connection (rev05)
[04:03] <Guest88923> it's not that
[04:03] <holstein> Guest88923: oh?
[04:03] <Guest88923> this is Ahmuck
[04:04] <Guest88923> same issue, different laptop, no network
[04:04] <holstein> Guest88923: i mistook that for a support question... appologies
[04:04] <holstein> at least you know what it is
[04:05] <Guest88923> during install i selected "do not configure network at this time".  could it be after the install and reboot lubuntu is no longer making an effort to autoconfigure network devices as in prior versions?
[04:05] <Guest88923> it is a support question.  need to find a way to enale wireless
[04:05] <holstein> Guest88923: wasnt in my case
[04:05] <holstein> Guest88923: ok.. then conisder the link above
[04:06] <Guest88923> did you select a network interface during install
[04:06] <holstein> Guest88923: did it work from the live CD?
[04:06] <Guest88923> going to google for a solution for this headache
[04:06] <holstein> Guest88923: no i did not.. i *never* connect during installation
[04:06] <Guest88923> don't know, will have to download yet another version to see, this time 12.04
[04:06] <holstein> Guest88923: sure, friend, but, it "just works' for me, and many others
[04:06] <holstein> Guest88923: 12.04 is supported, and i would just use it rather than fight for weeks about wifi
[04:06] <Guest88923> guess i'm special as always :)
[04:06] <holstein> 12.04 lubuntu isnt supported
[04:06] <holstein> but, the 12.04 repos are hott
[04:07] <Guest88923> i've now got three computes that won't connect via network interfaces.
[04:07] <holstein> Guest88923: i dont have any that *wont* connect
[04:07] <holstein> Guest88923: are you sure its not your access point?
[04:08] <holstein> Guest88923: do you have another router to test with?
[04:08] <holstein> Guest88923: make sure you have up to date firmware, and something without wpa or encryption.. an open one to test with
[04:08] <Guest88923> dudet, i know it's not my access point.  we covered this last evening by dropping back a version with a live cd to test the connection as well as the access point
[04:08] <Guest88923> yes, i've checked the firmware
[04:09] <Guest88923> and yes, it works fine in windows
[04:09] <holstein> Guest88923: i dont know you, friend
[04:09] <holstein> Guest88923: if you are referencing something we have done in the past, i work with many people
[04:09] <Guest88923> u do form some time ago, but that's ok
[04:09] <Guest88923> form/from
[04:09] <holstein> Guest88923: i appologize for not recalling
[04:10] <Guest88923> don't, i'm not offended
[04:10] <Guest88923> anyway i must go and search
[04:10] <holstein> uyeah?
[04:10] <Guest88923> !bugs
[04:10] <holstein> just load up 12.04..
[04:13] <Guest88923> i've got bugs bugging me for a while, better to begin filing my backlog of bugs
[04:13] <Guest88923> whatever happened to leafbuntu?
[05:07] <Guest88923> how do i tell if i am soft or hard blocked on the wlan?
[05:07] <Guest88923> what command do i need?
[09:41] <chulis> I have the system in spanish but but the clock calendar appears in portugue ¿how can i put in spanish as well?
[09:59] <lubuntu123> ** (pcmanfm:2526): WARNING **: modules directory is not accessible own, consider report it to LibFM developers
[10:00] <lubuntu123> why do i get that?
[10:01] <Lost> does each version of lubuntu have it's own repositories list?
[10:01] <lubuntu123> i have lubuntu 14.04
[11:30] <micky> Hi! Is there no checksum für the Lubuntu Minimal Installer, which can be downloaded here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall#Downloading
[11:34] <gsthero> guys i have added some ttf fonts to folder /usr/share/fonts/truetype
[11:34] <gsthero> but after sudo fc-cache -f -v , and reboot  those fonts are still hidden  , why
[11:41] <gsthero> any1 aawake
[11:47] <gsthero> home/gsthero/.fonts/sinfontpack: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs
[13:40] <ichat> hi i found a 'translation error,  seen in this image.. http://nl.tinypic.com/r/33p6az6/8  ...
[13:41] <ichat> how or where should i file a better translation.. as this looks like:   this is a really long translation that no-one realy wants, and actually should have be a caption but isn't so your screen is now fucked up...
[13:43] <ichat> the correct and better translation btw should have been: "hoofdletters in bestandsnamen negeren"
[14:21] <arianit> how do I update to 14.04, it's not showing with dist-upgrade
[14:37] <Ahmuck> okie dokie, let's get started
[14:37] <Ahmuck> first, http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/fix-lubuntu-1404-network-manager.html
[14:46] <ichat> how do i remove firefox from my lubuntu system without apt also trying to remove lubuntu-desktop
[14:47] <Mikaela> ichat: lubuntu-desktop is just meta package and can be safely removed. Removing it doesn't affect anything.
[14:48] <ichat> Mikaela:  tnx
[14:49] <Ahmuck> sudo aptitude purge firefox
[14:52] <Mikaela> remove should be enough.
[14:52] <Mikaela> I'm not sure what purge does at the moment.
[14:53] <Mikaela> Oh, I see. It also removes config files.
[14:58] <Ahmuck> Next - http://askubuntu.com/questions/450631/wifi-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-lts/450682#450682
[14:58] <Ahmuck> oddly nuff network problem issues were posted to askubuntu during 14.04 beta stage of lubuntu but were "disqualified" because it was beta and considered a bug and not a question
[14:59] <Mikaela> I believe there is bug report about that somewhere.
[14:59] <Mikaela> https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308348
[15:05] <Ahmuck> http://askubuntu.com/questions/449389/wifi-not-working-on-ubuntu-14-04-macmini?rq=1
[16:08] <Soul-Sing> is ubuntuforums down?
[16:08] <Ahmuck> http://www.itworld.com/slideshow/144133/pants-fire-9-lies-programmers-tell-themselves-409476#slide7
[16:10] <holstein> Soul-Sing: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntuforums.org
[17:19] <Ahmuck> for a time it was impossible to purge gnumeric and then have the menu option to fall off the menu
[17:19] <Ahmuck> it appears this has been fixed, however now it seems the same applies to gnome-mplayer
[17:20] <Ahmuck> purging gnome-mplayer does not cause the icon to fall of the menu
[17:28] <NightTrojan> love lubuntu!
[17:28] <ianorlin> do you have a desktop file for it in your home folder Ahmuck ?
[17:29] <ianorlin> sorry .desktop
[17:30] <NightTrojan> anyone got the latest lubuntu?
[17:36] <Ahmuck> ianorlin: where would that be?  in my home folder?
[17:36] <Ahmuck>  /home/user/gnome-mplayer?
[17:38] <Ahmuck> !bugs
[17:49] <xMopxShell> hey, I just installed lubuntu. I have two monitors connected though a gtx 560 Ti, how do I tell it to extend my desktop instead of mirroring?
[17:49] <xMopxShell> i also have a 3rd connected though a 9400GS, that is completely undetected...
[17:53] <ianorlin> the easiest way is to install arandr
[17:54] <ianorlin> lxrandr which is already install only does mirroring
[17:54] <xMopxShell> alright, ill give that a try
[17:56] <xMopxShell> would i need to uninstall lxrandr, ianorlin?
[17:56] <xMopxShell> ah seems not.
[17:56] <xMopxShell> cool. thanks :D
[17:57] <xMopxShell> what should i do for the 3rd screen?
[17:57] <xMopxShell> it shows up in lspci, so i suppose i need a driver
[18:21] <ianorlin> I am not sure about third screen
[18:24] <xMopxShell> i think i would just need to find the right dirver
[18:24] <xMopxShell> for a 9000 series nvidia card
[18:39] <Ahmuck> i need to re-compile my kernel to get my wireless back.  how?
[19:13] <Ahmuck> has anyone done a code review of the current network software in the kernel and/or ubuntu?
[19:14] <Ahmuck> i've located some of the problem.  there's been a change in the way the panel handles icons, notifications, etc.  often the panel duplicates what is already there.
[19:14] <Ahmuck> the old network panel icon shows only the hard wired connection via the "network" panel item
[19:15] <Ahmuck> however if you add the "network manager" item you can see both the wired and the wireless network connections
[19:15] <Ahmuck> however i'm still unable to connect via wireless though it does request a password
[19:17] <Ahmuck> the snowden expose has really made me re-think the timeline of ubuntu, awkward non-functional hardware and changes that get made during upgrade transitions
[19:23] <Ahmuck> http://imagebin.org/306525
[19:24] <Ahmuck> there is the image of the duplicate icons in the panel bar that i've been informed doesn't exist
[19:24] <Ahmuck> two power icons, three network icons, and often two keyboard/language icons
[19:25] <Ahmuck> is the panel bar in lubuntu tied together correctly with Ubuntu panel icons?
[19:25] <Ahmuck> bbl
[20:09] <holstein> Ahmuck: you shouldnt need to re-complie your kernel, nor should you have needed to compile your kernel in ther first place
[20:09] <chulis> is it possible to install lubuntu in a laptop without cd-dvd and no usb?
[20:09] <Ahmuck> holstein: i found the driver for the wireless chipset
[20:09] <holstein> Ahmuck: i would try with another access point, a test access point with no encryption
[20:09] <holstein> Ahmuck: the driver is in the kernel
[20:10] <Ahmuck> i also added network manager to the panel bar and then had an option to select a wlan
[20:10] <holstein> chulis: yes
[20:10] <xMopxShell> chulis: no usb?
[20:10] <Ahmuck> and then had the option to input the password
[20:10] <chulis> no usb
[20:10] <xMopxShell> what kind of laptop?
[20:10] <Ahmuck> etc. etc.  still not working at the moment
[20:10] <Ahmuck> and yes, the panel bar is borked
[20:10] <xMopxShell> something old?
[20:10] <chulis> acer laptop 11"
[20:10] <holstein> chulis: you can take the drive to another machine, and install.. you can use a netboot.. you can boot *something* like sd card as a usb
[20:11] <chulis> has usb but i dont have usb
[20:11] <holstein> chulis: all acer's i have boot usb
[20:11] <holstein> !pxe
[20:12] <chulis> boot with sd card?
[20:12] <holstein> chulis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/Netboot
[20:12] <holstein> chulis: correct.. instead of a USB, boot an sd card. you'll need to boot something
[20:13] <holstein> chulis: i would get a USB stick and dd copy the iso and install.. it'll take about 6 minutes
[20:13] <holstein> chulis: otherwise, start reading about network installations
[20:13] <chulis> ok i read
[20:13] <holstein> or, if you have an SD card, just dd copy the iso to it, and boot it like it is the usb stick installation media, or try
[20:14] <chulis> i only have an usb but only 128 mb
[20:14] <holstein> !mini | chulis
[20:14] <holstein> then, you add what you like to it.. lubuntu-desktop or whatever
[20:17] <holstein> i would want to use the small mini iso on the small 128mb stick and install. .then use the wired LAN on the acer to add packages.. "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop"
[20:17] <chulis> so i have to get a lubuntu mini.iso and copy in a usb with only 128mb and rest down from internet
[20:18] <nosmelc> I'm trying to mount a Windows file share.  It works if I just edit fstab, but I want to make it work with my log in user name and password by using libpam_mount.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I used the MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide
[20:18] <holstein> chulis: you dont "have to" do anything, friend
[20:18] <chulis> ok
[20:18] <holstein> chulis: the mini iso is just that.. its not lubuntu. its just mini ubuntu
[20:18] <holstein> chulis: you add waht you like to it afterwards
[20:19] <chulis> so i can install lubuntu after
[20:19] <holstein> chulis: the stick should hold that iso, which is around 30mb's
[20:19] <holstein> chulis: thats what im suggesting. except you can install *anything* you choose afterwards
[20:19] <holstein> not just lubuntu
[20:19] <holstein> chulis: its *all* ubuntu.. same repos
[20:20] <chulis> and how many mb for intalling lubuntu from internet?
[20:20] <holstein> the mini gives you a minimal base that is small and easy/fast to download and use on smaller usb sticks.. then, you can download what you like from the repositories.. which the command i gave above would update and install lubuntu-desktop
[20:20] <chulis> by network
[20:20] <holstein> chulis: i havent dont it, friend
[20:20] <holstein> chulis: but, it'll workk for you
[20:20] <holstein> chulis: it'll be a lot
[20:21] <holstein> chulis: around a gigabyte.. one way or the other, your going to download lubuntu
[20:21] <chulis> i want to install a complete lubuntu like a cd live
[20:21] <holstein> chulis: its all about the same in the end. its just that with the mini, you get to easily do this and use the tools you have
[20:21] <holstein> chulis: sure
[20:21] <chulis> ok
[20:21] <holstein> chulis: i am, and have been explaining and voluteering how i suggest you get a "complete" lubuntu with the tools you have at hand
[20:22] <holstein> chulis: you use the mini iso .. the *official* ubuntu min iso
[20:22] <holstein> chulis: put that on your small stick and install the minimal environment.. then, boot that minimal text-only environment, and use the commands i gave
[20:23] <holstein> chulis: sudo apt-get update , to update the cache.. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , to update the minimal environment.. sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop , to install what you are asking for
[20:23] <holstein> chulis: the complete lubuntu desktop like the live CD you are saying you are unwiling to use
[20:24] <holstein> nosmelc: i used that guide as well.. you want to make the share do what exactly?
[20:25] <holstein> nosmelc: i just added to fstab, and when i login, its there
[20:25] <holstein> nosmelc: you want to limit access by other users?
[20:25] <nosmelc> holstein: fstab works for me too, but I don't want to have to put the windows user name and password into fstab
[20:26] <holstein> nosmelc: you can always just mount it on the go
[20:26] <holstein> nosmelc: i didnt add any passwords to fstab
[20:26] <nosmelc> holstein: your Windows share isn't password protected?
[20:26] <holstein> nosmelc: i dont have any windows anymore
[20:27] <holstein> nosmelc: but, you can always just use something like gigolo on the fly
[20:27] <nosmelc> holstein: yeah.  That's what I need to learn how to do.  I want to connect a Lubuntu machine to a file share on a Win7 machine
[20:27] <holstein> nosmelc: id say, you can ask in the larger #ubuntu community and see how folks deal with that
[20:27] <holstein> !samba
[20:27] <holstein> nosmelc: shouldnt have to add a samba share to fstab like that
[20:28] <holstein> nosmelc: well, gigolo will allow you to easily connect.. but, you may want something persistent
[20:29] <nosmelc> holstein: yeah it needs to connect after every reboot.  It'll be for someone else's computer
[20:29] <holstein> nosmelc: see what the samba community, or the main #ubuntu community says
[20:29] <nosmelc> holstein: ok.  thanks :)
[20:29] <holstein> its not lubuntu or lxde specific, so, no need to limit your question to here
[20:30] <holstein> nosmelc: i read gigolo has an "autoconnect" feature
[20:30] <holstein> nosmelc: i havent used that part of it, but i really like gigolo, and suggest giving it a go
[20:30] <holstein> !info gigolo
[20:31] <holstein> "Gigolo is an SMB broswer with an 'autoconnect' option when you bookmark a share. Click on the icon to install gigolo Install gigolo (or apt-get install gigolo) and it's pretty easy from there."
[20:31] <holstein> from http://askubuntu.com/questions/15312/simple-way-to-consistently-access-a-smb-mount
[22:11] <wxl> gr trusty killed my audio
[22:16] <wxl> i have no pulse
[22:16] <wxl> nothing is muted in alsamixer
[22:17] <wxl> aplay, play, mplayer all appear to be working fine
[22:17] <wxl> i'm in the audio group (might be bad for another user but i'm the only user so who cares)
[22:19] <holstein> wxl: i chose to install pulse into lubuntu 14.04
[22:19] <wxl> holstein: *barf*
[22:19] <holstein> it seemed to make the hdmi support work
[22:19] <holstein> wxl: if you want it, you'll have to install it
[22:19] <wxl> holstein: that's downright depressing :(
[22:19] <holstein> but, thats likely why you dont have it
[22:20] <holstein> you have output from "aplay -l" ?
[22:20] <wxl> installed pulseaudio and no change
[22:20] <wxl> so nevermind that idea
[22:22] <wxl> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7287280/
[22:22] <holstein> wxl: you'll need it if you want it
[22:22] <holstein> wxl: thats why you have no pulse.. its not installed
[22:23] <wxl> holstein: i repeat i installed pulse and no change
[22:23] <wxl> i don't want pulse anyways
[22:23] <holstein> wxl: you said you had no pulse.. thats why, is all
[22:23] <holstein> wxl: i literaly dont care if you use it or not
[22:23] <holstein> i have issues with and without is, as your case just demonstrated
[22:23] <wxl> holstein: i haven't had pulse since i started using lubuntu and haven't had a need to use it including on this computer
[22:23] <Unit193> I disabled pulse because it was causing so many problems, fixed now that it's disabled.
[22:24] <wxl> holstein: also (and i repeat for the third time) i installed pulseaudio just now and it did not help anything
[22:24] <holstein> wxl: sure.. i was just offering since you said "i have no pulse".. thats why.. its not installed
[22:24] <holstein> wxl: i didnt suggest is as a fix
[22:24] <wxl> holstein: you're missing the problem. i was saying "i have no pulse" because pulse is often the problem. i was walking through troubleshooting steps
[22:24] <holstein> wxl: ok
[22:24] <holstein> wxl: its not a problem
[22:25] <holstein> wxl: do what you like
[22:25] <holstein> wxl: you see the card in aplay -l ?
[22:25] <wxl> holstein: see paste above ↑
[22:25] <Unit193> wxl: Did you check the arch troubleshooting page on Alsa?
[22:25] <wxl> Unit193: link me
[22:25] <holstein> wxl: i think im just going to bail
[22:26] <wxl> snd_hda_intel anything to worry about?
[22:26] <holstein> wxl: if i have time after the show, i'll check in again
[22:26] <Unit193> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Troubleshooting
[22:28] <wxl> thought timidity might be the issue but no
[22:31] <wxl> not seeing anything obvious at a quick glance
[22:31] <wxl> card is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7287280/
[22:31] <wxl> oops
[22:31] <wxl> not that
[22:31] <wxl> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset Family High Definition Audio Controller (rev 04)
[23:00] <Sk1d> ok now I am having network problms where do I choose my wlan in the new 14.04? I am missing the correct wlan symbol on the bottom left.
[23:00] <Sk1d> *bottom right
[23:04] <Sk1d> ok figured out that I had to add the panel entry network configuration