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scoffinheh.  It does seem to connect into the 14.4 machine IF i give the IP address.  But the windows "network" menu does not show the machine00:00
euryalethe sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:01
scoffinthat means that the ubuntu box is not advertising its presence00:02
d1rkp1ttscoffin, same... at least with ufw on I can see the log..00:02
d1rkp1ttscoffin, mines not quite connecting with ufw one still00:03
euryalethe sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:03
scoffinthis might just be a 14.4 bug ???00:03
d1rkp1ttModify these entries:00:04
d1rkp1ttNetwork security: LAN Manager authentication level Send LM & NTLM responses00:04
d1rkp1ttMinimum session security for NTLM SSP Disable Require 128-bit encryption00:04
d1rkp1ttI did do that in Windows...00:04
d1rkp1ttsecurity policies00:04
electricprismIs there any reason I would want to use BTRFS over EXT4?00:04
rwwelectricprism: no00:04
electricprismIs there any reason I would want to use BTRFS over EXT4?00:04
rwwelectricprism: no00:04
electricprismlol bot00:05
rwwelectricprism: lol repeating yourself00:05
scoffind1rkp1tt: where should I do these changes?  in the 14.4 network mgr?00:05
electricprismyour response was so quick, i assumed you were a bot00:05
MerisGood night, I'm going to sleep, thank you for contributing to the community00:06
d1rkp1ttscoffin, I did those in windows 800:07
d1rkp1tt... not sure if it made a difference, but I changed the local security policy00:07
d1rkp1ttI think it allows samba handshake00:07
d1rkp1tt"I think"00:07
Dan1_hi, I am planning to but a AMD Radeon 7750 DDR5 GPU, but just a little concerned about past experiences with AMD/ATI cards with Ubuntu, I am curretly using a Nvidia card without any problem, so should I consider buying 7750 by AMD or look at Nvidia alternatives, any help would be appreciated. also do I have to use Closed-source fglrx drivers?00:08
d1rkp1ttbut still that doesnt explain other devices not seeing it00:08
Dan1_*buy00:08
scoffinI have tested from a Fedora 20 box, same behavior, so probably not a win8 config error00:08
d1rkp1ttscoffin, what happens if you do sudo apt-get install samba00:08
scoffinyeah, I installed that.  now says "already installed"00:08
euryalethe sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:08
euryale the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:09
ntviet18time00:09
d1rkp1ttscoffin, this firewalls annoying me.. cant connect with it on00:12
scoffinI'm beginning to think this is just a 14.4 bug, maybe wait a few weeks :-)00:13
Dan1_*14.0400:13
Dan1_hi, I am planning to buy a AMD Radeon 7750 DDR5 GPU, but just a little concerned about past experiences with AMD/ATI cards with Ubuntu, I am curretly using a Nvidia card without any problem, so should I consider buying 7750 by AMD or look at Nvidia alternatives, any help would be appreciated. also do I have to use Closed-source fglrx drivers?00:15
d1rkp1ttwell mines fine with firewall off00:16
d1rkp1ttI wonder if yours is shares permissions00:17
d1rkp1ttbut then I can see the print service etc00:17
scoffinyeah, I can connect using the IP address and "map network drive" (win8) and with "smbclient" (Fedora 20) with the firewall disabled00:18
scoffinbut no joy using the "browse network" GUI from either win8 or Fedora00:18
scoffincould also be caused by a nmbd config error so that the machine name is not advertised00:20
Jordan_UBillyBag2: Did the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" command at least seem to take some time?00:20
jitsusamascoffin: nmbd is the culprit.00:20
scoffind1rkp1tt: this seems like a very helpful discussion....  thanks!  learned a lot00:21
jitsusamanmbd is what advertises your computer name via broadcast to the network.00:21
jitsusamaWithout that, other computers can't automagically discover your fileserver.00:21
fisch246oh wow, so i looked up how the backup is doing... apparently I have over 3600 volumes... Well at least it's almost done, and I'll be able to get a system back soon ;-;00:21
scoffinI know nmbd is running, but I did not get to the smb.conf yet00:21
jitsusamanmbd used to have its own config file.00:21
jitsusamanmbd.conf or something.00:22
d1rkp1ttI did do something with nautilus just now00:22
d1rkp1tt.. hmm now what did I do00:22
jitsusamaIf you run Wireshark on your Windoze box you should be able to sniff out whether any NetBios broadcast packets are being sent out.00:22
jitsusamaI'm guessing not.00:22
d1rkp1ttoh just attempted to set perms as root, not my user00:22
d1rkp1tt gksudo nautilus00:22
euryaleI got a problem, the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:22
scoffinjitsusama: yeah, my network is fine, its just the 14.4 box that is ill00:23
jitsusamaI'm more meaning, running Wireshark will tell you whether nmbd is advertising anything.00:23
scoffinI will try that, good advice00:24
jitsusamaPacket captures is where I spend my work-days, so I always look at the packets first :)00:24
jitsusamaYou can also look at netstat -ul on your server.00:25
t4ng0hello guys, how to remove unity on 14.04 and use MATE?00:25
jitsusamaYou should see some LISTENing ports opened for nmbd.00:25
SlartAnyone know how to modify mime-types or whatever so I can drag/drop swf-files to my firefox window again?00:25
jitsusamaIf not, then it's probably not binding right.00:26
jitsusamanetstat -pul actually.00:26
jitsusamaThat'll show which pid owns it.00:26
scoffinjitsusama: now I'm running with ufw disabled, so should be open00:27
solid_liqso 14.04 was released early?00:27
rwwsolid_liq: no00:27
euryaleI got a problem, the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.00:27
solid_liqrww, it's released, right?00:27
jitsusamaufw will just filter packets, netstat -pul will show you if you have an application listening.00:27
rwwit was released on the 17th, which was its scheduled release date00:27
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solid_liqrww, oh, I thought it had be scheduled for the 21st00:27
jitsusamanmbd listens for broadcasts from other computers, and sends out its own broadcasts. Using netstat will verify whether he's listening or not.00:28
jitsusamaIf he's not listening, its a good sign that he's not sending either.00:28
boldfilter1How do you enable the click to minimize in unity 14.0400:28
Artemis3t4ng0, i suggest install using the ubuntu-minimal iso with the command line only option, and then sudo apt-get install mate-desktop00:28
trepidoHi all! I need some help with my Java IDE on Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit00:29
scoffinjitsusama:  I'm definitely thinking the broadcast00:30
boldfilter1OMG, so much better00:30
d1rkp1ttscoffin, im gonna have to watch this on wireshark to figure out what to open in the firewall00:30
d1rkp1ttscoffin, Ive opened tonnes of ports lol00:30
trepidoEither I don't have the right click menu or the top (file menu) does not work00:30
boldfilter1wts00:30
deekejhey guys! :) Can I have a quick question? What type of package should I choose for compiled gcc with bazaar? (ingle binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch?)00:31
deekejI guess single binary, but I'm not sure...00:31
scoffinI really don't mind keeping the firewall off, since I'm behind a regular firewall also00:31
scoffinjitsusama: do you know what options in smb.conf are used to set the nmb broadcasts?00:33
t4ng0artemis3, does ubuntu-minimal.iso is 14.04 pakage?00:33
fisch246and... backup fails from running out of space...00:33
fisch246not even a warning00:34
boldfilter1*Switches unity icons to 26. Creams on self00:34
fisch246reminds me of an upgrade i did in the past00:34
fisch246no notifications00:34
Jordan_Udeekej: I don't understand the question. Could you please try to rephrase it?00:35
d1rkp1ttsudo ufw allow samba worked.. but I dont know the scope of what that just did... doh00:35
scoffind1rk: that is documented, try google00:36
LarrySteezehello folks00:36
d1rkp1ttlooks like its just allowed from everywhere00:36
scoffinbut it is the preferred way to open the right ports IIRC00:36
deekejJordan_U: ok, I will try. I compiled the latest gcc-4.8.2, which I need. And I want to create a .deb package from it using bazaar (bzr), taken from this tutorial: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html00:37
d1rkp1ttI dont want that... should at least limit to hosts on the LAN, even though my firewall blocks others00:37
JaKobyhi guys00:37
deekejJordan_U: Now I'm at the part where I started creating the package. And the bazaar (bzr) asks me, what type of package am I creating. (Type of package: single binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch? [s/i/m/l/k/n])00:38
scoffind1rkp1tt:  yeah, there is an option in smb.conf to restict access to a set of IP addresses.  I use 192.168.0 and 192,168.100:38
Dave-MaydewCan I mention I've found a memory leak in Ubuntu 14.04??00:38
jitsusamascoffin: I'm pretty sure it's a separate config file.00:38
d1rkp1ttscoffin, found the correct command to reduce scope00:38
JaKobyevery thing seems to go well with installation00:38
d1rkp1tt;)00:38
deekejJordan_U: I guess it should be single binary (s), but I'm not sure.00:38
trepidoHi! I have a nagging problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file menu) does not work00:38
scoffinjitsusama:  OK, I will look into that00:39
deekejJordan_U: huh, sorry, wrong link, this one is the correct: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html00:39
JaKobybut when when i start it up i get : could not load /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/modules.dep no duch file directory00:39
Dave-MaydewSo on top of the auto mounting USB device Bug, there's a memory leak00:39
celtha_hi all any have problems with resolution on integrated graphic card, intel i5-4670 ??00:40
scoffinjitsusama: the nmbd man page specified smb.conf as the config file for nmbd also00:41
lagboxdid they ever remove the hardcoding from Chromium Tab UI for font size yet ?00:42
euryalethanks for nothing.00:42
Dave-MaydewI know that feeling00:42
Jordan_Udeekej: What are you packaging?00:42
jitsusamaOk scoffin, I'm obviously outdated.00:42
d1rkp1ttscoffin, done..00:43
scoffinno, you gave some useful ideas00:43
scoffind1rk: everything working now?00:43
d1rkp1ttscoffin, yes00:43
scoffincool00:43
d1rkp1ttscoffin, I am in the windows workgroup..00:43
JaKobycant get ubuntu to load after an install anyone willing to help a newb???00:43
d1rkp1ttscoffin, also, same user on the other machine?00:44
JaKobynot loading the modules.dep00:44
scoffinyeah, same user00:44
JaKobyno such file directory00:44
JaKobyeverything said it installed correctly00:44
deekejJordan_U: latest stable gcc (4.8.2)00:44
jitsusamaSo, scoffin, I'm not sure exactly where to look. I haven't messed with Samba in a coons age.00:45
jitsusamaI would try turning on as much debugging as you can though to see why it isn't loading right.00:45
Dave-MaydewSo what can be done about - no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory00:46
scoffinits ok, I got enough to work with;  and d1rk got it working so its probably a bug in my config00:46
scoffinthanks to both of you; samba always give me grief00:46
d1rkp1ttscoffin, I could share my config?00:47
scoffinsure, put it on a pastebin?00:48
d1rkp1ttscoffin, also, I assume they are all plugged into the same router, switch, hub?00:48
trepidoHi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work00:48
scoffinyeah, simple network00:48
d1rkp1ttok, wheres the smb.conf lol00:48
scoffin/etc/samba00:48
Arcantosque informacion tienen de nueva00:49
koelldoes ubuntu has an offtopic channel?00:50
Beldarkoell, #ubuntu-offtopic00:50
aidrocsid1I did chmod 700 on my home folder, it's not good. What can I do to undo it?00:50
Arcantoswonderful is moment very important for world00:50
Dave-MaydewIsn't it a good job I have patience00:51
Dave-Maydewwaiting for a reply to my last question and the UAS issue00:51
tgm4883aidrocsid1, you'd have to chmod it to something else00:51
Arcantosi can see underworld..00:52
tgm4883aidrocsid1, default is 75500:52
d1rkp1ttscoffin, sent pm00:52
scoffingot it, thanks for your efforts00:53
aidrocsid1ty tgm00:53
ArcantosXD00:53
ArcantosXDd00:53
Arcantosjejejejeje00:53
Dave-MaydewAh well, looks like one more re-install of 14.04 then it's back to 12.0400:55
Arcantosi like need more cash and time and live00:55
Dave-Maydewway to many bugs it seems in an LTS00:55
d1rkp1ttscoffin, sweet good luck00:56
Arcantosharascho panimaesh?00:56
LarrySteezeAnyone else experience a GUI that gives a cursor but nothing else after updating?00:56
tgm4883Dave-Maydew, I'd point out that you are before the first point release00:56
LarrySteezeSwitching to console gives me absolutely everything, but the GUI is worthless00:56
Dave-Maydewfirst point release??00:57
scoffint, you too...      got to go now00:57
tgm4883Dave-Maydew, in 3 months, there will be another 14.04 iso, eg. 14.04.100:57
ddssshow would I enable system sounds?00:57
tgm4883which will have a bunch of fixes in it00:57
Dave-Maydewso we have to wait 3 months for UAS Automounting and the memory leak to be fixed??00:57
Dave-MaydewI'm definitely going back to 12.04 then00:58
tgm4883no00:58
ArcantosHe Regresado no fue facil00:58
Dave-Maydewno to which one?00:58
tgm4883Dave-Maydew, the fix will be in the regular repos. I'm just pointing out that you are expecting stability from a brand new OS00:58
trepidoAny ideas on the Eclipse IDE menuitems and right click ?00:59
rwwArcantos: something we can help you with?00:59
tgm4883Dave-Maydew, while that may be the ideal we're shooting for, I don't know believe it's realistic to expect that of any OS00:59
Dave-MaydewI'm just perplexed to why Canonical shipped an OS that the UAS didn't work from the word go00:59
tgm4883Dave-Maydew, I'd bet that it works for quite a few people. Can you link to your bug report?01:00
dark_samusHi I'm trying to set up a dial-up modem (yes I know who still uses that) its one of those sound card modems, I'm having some issues setting it up, anyone willing to help, its Ubuntu 12.10 again old but it was what I had I'll have to take it somewhere and update it at some point01:01
tgm4883!eol | dark_samus01:02
ubottudark_samus: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades01:02
ImraelI know it is easy to upgrade from 13.xx to 14.40, but is it possible to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.40 without having to install from DVD or SD card?01:03
dark_samusYeah don't have the internet speed atm, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the same procedure even on newer versions01:03
tgm4883Imrael, no, you'd need to reinstall01:03
ChuoHey guys on 14.04 and I'm having issues, I tried to create the packages for the ati drivers but it gives me an error that I can't tell which package I'm missin http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280170/ some help?01:03
tgm4883Imrael, 13.10 -> 14.04 or 12.04 -> 14.0401:03
ImraelI was afraid of that. :) Thanks for the help. I appreciate it!01:04
rwwImrael: depends. do you find upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 possible?01:04
chesedixNation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.01:04
Dave-MaydewI believe it's been reported, as I'm not the only one that's having issues with Automounting external devices01:04
rwwchesedix: something we can help you with?01:04
chesedixTheir pumping oceans of oil out of the ground. Creating continent size sink holes01:04
Dave-MaydewI've blacklisted UAS and it worked for a while, now it's just not working again01:04
Arcantosi need luntubu install01:04
tgm4883Chuo, looks like devscripts01:04
ImraelHow would I go to 13.04? I have tried using the update system, but it does not show that as an option.01:05
chesedixAnother giant earthquake today.01:05
rwwchesedix: This is an Ubuntu technical support channel. We are not particularly interested in bible quotes or earthquakes.01:05
tgm4883!eol | Imrael01:05
ubottuImrael: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades01:05
dark_samusI'm screwing around with slmodemd for the modem and it reports no dialtone01:05
Arcantosi like01:05
dark_samusI can dial in windows01:05
ChuoWhat is the name of the package? devscripts?01:05
Arcantosthanks01:05
tgm4883Chuo, yes01:05
Arcantosbye01:05
Arcantossayonara01:05
tgm4883Chuo, it's failing on debclean, which is in the package devscripts01:05
Arcantoschao01:06
Chuotgm4883: ok thanks01:06
Arcantosbye01:06
Jordan_UDave-Maydew: Please give a detailed explanation of what you're trying to do and what symptoms you're seeing.01:06
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Jordan_UDave-Maydew: And if you can link to a bug report matching your issue that would be very helpful in trying to find a solution for you as well.01:07
Dave-MaydewI'm trying to find the bug number again01:07
chesedixI heard ubuntu is doing deal with Microsoft.01:08
rwwchesedix: That isn't an Ubuntu technical support question either. Try again.01:08
lagboxisn't there a secondary chromium package for the dev version ?01:09
ImraelI have looked at the eol page, but it doesn't show anything about upgrading from 12.04 LTS. I have the feeling I am missing something really simple, but being half-asleep isn't helping much. :)01:09
Jordan_UImrael: 12.04 isn't EOL.01:10
tgm4883Imrael, you said you were on 12.1001:10
ImraelSorry. Mistyped. Was trying to read as I typed.01:10
tgm4883Imrael, if you are on 12.04, then wait 3 months for the first point release and you'll be offered the upgrade to 14.04. If you are on 12.10, activate the EOL repos and upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10, then finally 14.04 (but IMHO, it would be easier to do a clean install at that point)01:11
ChuoOh yeah, for some reason I can't run .run as a program from nautilus after changing the permission for it, it actually kept trying to open it with gedit until I selected execute as program app or whatever is called from the menu , the mouse pointer spins but it won't load, had to use teminal at the end.01:12
ImraelOk. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it!01:12
UrielVigilantGood night, and thank you all for the new 14.04, so much wished !01:17
litropyI'm running 13.10. Is there a way to disable this function: When I click an app icon in the sidelauncher, and that app happens to have more than one window, the windows get all movey and transitiony and they eventually end up next to each other. Which would be great, if my hardware could handle that kind of a transition. Can I disable it, so that they just auto-snap in one "frame"?01:18
UrielVigilantIam sad, because this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/    dont work with 14.04 as still work with 13.10 , lubuntu and ubuntu ? why ? please give me a slution that i cant find no where in the internet !01:18
ChuoSeems like it wasn't devscript http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280249/ I think is the same error01:19
subz3r0slut ion? :D01:19
UrielVigilantsolution01:19
* litropy wants me some of them ions01:20
* litropy returns to family mode01:22
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cannotbootintowiSo I had Windows 8.1 and (a semi-working version of) Ubuntu 13.10 dual booting on my computer. I decided to upgrade it to 14.04 so I could get Ubuntu working. But, now, I cannot boot into Windows! Previously, GRUB used to provide my a screen with choice to boot between either Ubuntu or Windows. Now, I don't even see the GRUB Window on startup.01:28
cannotbootintowiIm really worried, and I don't want to destroy my system anymore than it has been until now. So, does anyone have detailed steps on what I should do? I can provide output on pastebin of any commands required.01:28
b13that seems pretty bad01:29
cannotbootintowi@b13 yeah Im like panic mode right now01:30
ddsssconfused by indicators -> can one "minimize to indicators" as one would "minimize in the tray"01:31
trepidocannotbootintowi: do you have RAID enabled?01:32
cannotbootintowiI dont think so01:32
cannotbootintowiwhat command can I do to check that?01:32
trepidowhat h/w are you using01:32
cannotbootintowiIm using Lenovo Y410p laptop01:32
trepidodoes it have an SSD and an HDD?01:32
cannotbootintowino, only 1TB HDD01:33
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litropycannotbootintowi, do you have an EFI partition?01:33
litropyI'm running 13.10. Is there a way to disable this function: When I click an app icon in the sidelauncher, and that app happens to have more than one window, the windows get all movey and transitiony and they eventually end up next to each other. Which would be great, if my hardware could handle that kind of a transition. Can I disable it, so that they just auto-snap in one "frame"?01:33
cannotbootintowiI think so. Thats how I used to boot previously I think01:34
litropycannotbootintowi, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair01:34
bswartzdoes anyone know how long we have to wait until we can do-release-upgrade trusty?01:35
cannotbootintowithought Im not sure on the details. What I did previously was make space for ubuntu, load live cd for 12.04, install 12.04, repair grub. That did not help, so I installed rEFInd boot manager. Then I had problems with 12.04 andmy graphics card so I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.1001:35
rwwbswartz: are you on 13.10 or 12.04?01:35
trepidocannotbootintowi: did you remove the Lenovo recovery partition etc earlier?01:35
litropycannotbootintowi, also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:35
cannotbootintowithis fixed GRUB but I could not see anything01:35
bswartzrww: 12.04.401:35
cannotbootintowiI did not remove anything01:35
rwwbswartz: until 14.04.1 comes out, in July. sudo do-release-upgrade -d will work right now (only because there is no 14.10 yet), but if you're using LTS for stability reasons, I'd wait.01:36
litropycannotbootintowi, you don't need refind anymore.01:36
cannotbootintowiSee the reason Im a little worried about using boot-repair is because the last time I tried it it broke my computer even more (used to be able to boot into ubuntu, after repair grub just gave some error, and hence I had to use rEFInd)01:36
bswartzrww: ty01:36
bswartzrww: I was under the impression that -d upgraded you to trunk, not the latest non-LTS release01:38
rwwbswartz: it upgrades you to the latest devel release, which is currently aliased to 14.04 because there is no 14.10.01:38
* rww pats ubottu01:38
litropycannotbootintowi, I'm not sure. Just keep in mind your data is very likely safe. So it might help to set up/zap a new EFI partition at the beginning of your HD and follow that link to set up EFI, then do boot repair. It's what worked for me.01:39
cannotbootintowihow can I check the different partitions existing?01:39
litropycannotbootintowi, if you're very worried, you can always boot from a liveusb/cd and back up your data before you do anything01:39
litropycannotbootintowi, gparted01:39
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cannotbootintowiOK so right now im on the ubuntu 14.10 installation, and I have a liveusb of that. I don't have any data on ubuntu installation that Im on right now, so thats not a problem01:41
Left_Turncan someone ban ubottu for flooding :(01:41
rwwLeft_Turn: no, because she's removing bans under the direction of a chanop (me)01:41
Left_Turnoh :)01:41
cannotbootintowiwhat Im worried about is messing up boot sequences and not being to boot into even 1 OS01:42
sgo11hi, how can I disable system beep sound in gnome and ubuntu 14.04? thanks.01:43
cannotbootintowiOK, more info from gparted: I see 3 partitions: 512 MB /boot/efi, 923 GB ext4 /, and 8 GB swap01:43
cannotbootintowidoes that mean my Windows installation was overwritten?01:43
lagboxdoes anyone know about chromium not using gtk preference for fonts in the UI  ... 14.0401:46
Kamarisis anyone familiar with 14.04 + x11vnc not displaying anything when you remote in? you can interact with the desktop so the connection is made, but the remote session is just a black screen01:46
denysonique_http://hastebin.com/jufurariga.vhdl01:47
denysonique_I am having problems installing or uninstalling any package. (14.04)01:47
denysonique_What is the best way to fix this?01:47
ChuoAnyone has any idea why I can't build the ati packages in 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280249/ ? or run .run or files without extensions as a program in nautilus after changing the permission?01:47
trismKamaris: my first thought would be to try the -noxdamage argument, used to need it a long time ago, although I just checked my script on 14.04 and don't have it enabled01:48
Kamaristrism: already using that flag :(01:50
DiamondciteIs Ubuntu-desktop suitable for server use if the server has an active monitor?01:51
jf__hi01:51
trismKamaris: what desktop out of curiosity01:51
Kamarisunity01:51
jf__plase I'm new in the maas01:51
trismKamaris: same here, hmm01:51
Kamaristhe only additional caveat is that i'm running this in virtualbox01:52
jf__could some body explain a little about maas01:52
Kamarisso not sure if that might be the limiting factor01:52
jitsusamaDiamondcite: Any Linux is suitable for server use, but a desktop oriented release usually takes a lot more work to secure, and runs a lot of processes that might slow down server processes.01:52
cfhowlettDiamondcite I keep reading that "true" servers are command-line driven but that may just be neckbeard talk ...01:52
cfhowlett!maas|jf__01:52
ubottujf__: Metal as a Service is a dynamic server provisioning service for scalability. See more about it at https://maas.ubuntu.com.01:52
jf__yes01:52
Kamarisi wanted to get a base install up and see what issues i had before i put it in my main system01:52
johndropperHello01:52
jf__I just install ubuntu server14.04 lts01:53
jf__but  I dont understand some concept01:53
cfhowlett!server|jf__01:53
ubottujf__: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Thar 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server01:53
qinjitsusama: it like to say any car can do la Manche01:53
holsteinjf__: just ask01:53
johndropperI am settign up an ubuntu 14.04 desktop from disk image adn it didnt detect that I have windows 8. So what now? How can I install ubuntu along side of my windows 8 if Ubuntu doesnt detect windows duting the install?01:53
jitsusamaqin: lol, they could, just might not win any races :)01:53
jf__I read all documents01:54
jf__but I have a troubbles specific01:54
johndroppersorry for the typos01:54
UrielVigilant Sonikku01:54
Beldar!uefi | JohnDory01:54
ubottuJohnDory: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI01:54
jf__well I want to know what is exactly a cluster01:55
jf__we are talking about maas01:55
Beldarjohndropper, That was for you the bots uefi info.01:55
holsteinjf__: a cluster is a group01:55
jitsusamajf__: yeah, a group of servers that generally share information. IE: Memory, disk, processors...01:55
johndropperok i wll check it out01:55
jf__a group by what01:55
UrielVigilant Sonikku you helo doesn it work at all ! See the rsult alive : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/01:55
jf__ok01:55
jf__but this are virtual machines01:56
jf__?01:56
holsteinjf__: a computer or server cluster is a group of computers01:56
holsteinjf__: https://maas.ubuntu.com/01:56
jitsusamaVMs could be a cluster.01:56
jitsusamaKinda weird to do that, but possible.01:56
holstein^ a cluster of virtual machines01:56
holsteinjf__: its relevant to whatever you are using them for01:56
holsteinjf__: if you want/need a cluster of machines (or whatever) then its relevant01:56
jitsusamaGenerally a "true" cluster is a bunch of servers that synchronize their memory, have access to the same disk space, and are able to share process load amongst themselves.01:56
superman:-D01:57
jitsusamaIt's like having lots of CPUs on one computer, but instead of on one, they are on many.01:57
holsteinjf__: i suggest *not* going and finding a bunch of terms to try and define about or around linux, but rather, just try and get a task, or a problem, and address or solve it for yourself01:57
jf__ok, so I have virtual box on my ubuntu server 14.0401:57
jf__and is running centos01:57
jf__so Must I have setting a dhcp servers in my vm centos01:59
jf__could you describe the topology about the network02:00
jf__for maas work02:00
jf__?02:01
jitsusamaUhhmmm.. What does maas mean to you?02:02
jf__metal as a service is like to get  servers on the cloud02:02
jitsusamaAre you wanting to setup a maas controller on a VM?02:03
jf__not02:03
jf__I have installed on laptop02:04
jitsusamaAre you trying to setup a server to speak to a maas controller?02:04
jf__I'm new in this02:04
jf__but I have a lot questions02:04
holsteinjf__: just ask, with details02:04
holsteinjf__: and please read https://maas.ubuntu.com/02:04
jitsusamaI'm not really familiar with maas myself, but I do understand distributed architectures fairly well.02:05
jf__ye I read that, thats right I'm here02:05
jitsusamaFunny enough, Ubuntu maas is exactly like a product I was planning on developing.02:05
holsteinjf__: ok.. just ask.. are you trying to setup a server to speak to a maas controler?02:05
jitsusamaStinko that they beat me to it :)02:05
jf__yes02:05
jf__I have 0 nodes02:06
holsteinjf__: then, elaborate about that, and try the #ubuntu-server community02:06
jf__what is nodes02:06
jitsusamanodes are servers that are a part of the cluster.02:06
phuhI'm eating an instance cup noodle and it tastes good.02:06
jitsusamaFrom a quick skim-read, it looks like maas allows you to have a bunch of servers that you can dynamically load apps on to.02:07
jitsusamaThe servers end up not being customized entities, and more like resources that you can put apps onto and move apps around on without worrying about the individual server details.02:07
jitsusamaSo, to use maas, you want a group of servers, set them up with the basic middle-ware, setup a separate maas controller, and then use that controller to push out application services dynamically.02:08
kamalkhello, I have installed ubuntu 14.04 on my new laptop, toshiba satellite M50D A 103. Every thing is working gr8 and I'm really excited. But FN keys are not working. Any idea!!02:09
kamalkand I'm new on ubuntu.02:09
jf__ok02:09
jitsusamajf__: Is that making much sense?02:09
jf__in this moment Iam configuration02:09
jitsusamaDo you have a bunch of servers laying around?02:10
holsteinkamalk: they may not work.. you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys02:10
TheteAnyone know by chance where I can change the php zend opcache settings on 14.04?02:10
jf__I dont have anything02:11
jitsusamaThen maas isn't really for you.02:11
jf__just i want to learn about cloud computing02:11
jf__and I install ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop02:11
jitsusamaAhh... maas isn't really cloud computing.02:11
holsteinjf__: then, you dont want to try and control a bunch of servers with it02:11
jitsusamaIt's a way to treat physical servers like a cloud, without them being a cloud.02:11
holsteinjf__: you can run a server, and learn about hosting.. a physical one ^ or one in virtualbox02:12
jf__and I am try out02:12
holsteinjf__: start simple.. read about, and setup something like wordpress for yourself locally02:12
jitsusamaCloud computing is the idea of being able to setup a server without having any physical assets.02:12
jitsusamamaas is the idea of being able to easily setup servers with the flexibility of the cloud, while using real physical assets.02:13
jitsusamaFor either option, you really need cashola.02:13
jitsusamaListen to holstein; if you can learn server administration, cloud stuff will come naturally when you're in a situation to use it.02:14
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holsteinand, listen to jitsusama .. has obvious first hand experience with the services you are trying to learn about..02:15
sdjkfaguestanybody have this same problem ? Tab doesn't focus search results anymore when ur logged in with chrome/chromium02:15
holsteinjf__: start simple.. try and setup something you need,a nd learn about it02:15
jf__ok, but in the page ubuntu, say02:16
cabbage4thI'll just leave this here for anyone wondering. I upgraded 12.04 to 14.04 a few hours ago and everything works perfectly. I lost VLC, nd nothing else that  I can notice.02:16
jf__ubuntu 14.04 is cloud server02:16
cfhowlettcabbage4th reinstall vlc ?02:16
jf__with maas and juju02:16
holsteinjf__: ?02:16
holsteinjf__: dont worry about terms and names.. "cloud" is nothing you need to worry about02:17
cfhowlettjf__ ubuntu is NOT a cloud server, it can be deployed as a cloud server with MAAS02:17
jitsusamaA really nice way to start thinking virtually is VMs.02:17
cabbage4thcfhowlett: reinstalling now. Just informing the channel just in case someone asks later. :D02:17
holsteinjf__: just try and setup a server you need.. a file server.. ssh.. wordpress.. photo management..02:17
tuxy-jwanyone have an issue using windows rdp in ubuntu 13.1002:17
tuxy-jwno issue in 1202:17
jitsusamaSetup your box as a VM host.02:17
jitsusamaHave it run next to nothing.02:17
jitsusamaHave everything else run as VMs.02:18
jitsusamaCreate separate VMs for different purposes.02:18
jf__ok, but the idea is to get an experience with cloud computing02:18
jitsusamaA router VM, a web server VM, a fileserver VM, ...02:18
holsteinjf__: ?02:18
jf__so I need install and configuration a cloud server02:18
holsteinjf__: ok.. setup a server, friend.. that *is* cloud computing02:18
jitsusamaYou can't get experience with cloud computing without paying for cloud services.02:18
jitsusamaAWS &etc cost bucks.02:19
holsteinjf__: "cloud" is just that.. not there. but, "up in the cloud" on a server02:19
tuxy-jwanyone familiar w/ xrd02:19
tuxy-jwxrdp02:19
jitsusamaAnd honestly, they aren't all that sexy anyways.02:19
holsteinjf__: you'll start with what you have, learning about a server02:19
tuxy-jwor remote from win02:19
jf__the idea is become a provider cloud computing02:19
jitsusamaOk jf__, that's a whole different story then.02:20
jf__or what do you think about owncloud02:20
jitsusamaYou'll need to get a hold of some physical services.02:20
holsteinjf__: you need a server community..02:20
jitsusamablah, servers.02:20
holsteinjf__: owncloud is just a server02:20
rwwowncloud doesn't use cloud computing.02:20
jitsusamaYeah, owncloud is a way to synchronize files to a single server.02:20
holsteinjf__: it does what it does.. and thats all. its not "cloud computing" or serving02:20
jitsusamaI think we need a cloud jar.02:21
holsteinjf__: owncloud is a dropbox competitor, with other featuers.. and you can run it, for free, and see about it, firsthand02:21
holsteinjf__: setting up an owncloud server would be a *great* way to learn02:21
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jitsusamaEverytime a company comes up with a new "cloud" service, they need to put $1,000,000 into the jar.02:21
jitsusamaBecause they are muddying the waters!02:21
syeesudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main02:22
syeeis this safe for the latest 14.04?02:22
jitsusamajf__: cloud services are 1,001 different concepts called by the same name.02:22
jf__yes02:22
jitsusamaThere is cloud storage, cloud computing, cloud blah.02:22
jitsusamaThey are all completely different from each other.02:22
syeeyeah?02:22
syeeit wont break anything will it?02:22
holstein"cloud" is just "up in the cloud".. not local02:23
jf__so maas is like cloud servers02:23
holsteinjf__: no02:23
holsteinjf__: maas is what it said it was02:23
jitsusamaOk, let me try to find a better way to explain cloud servers.02:23
jitsusamaAnd just to re-iterate, cloud servers and cloud computing are different ideas as well.02:23
holsteinjf__: it makes it easier to configure machines02:23
holsteinjf__: you dont want maas. you want to choose a task and run it. like, and owncloud server02:24
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jitsusamaCloud servers makes it easy to roll out an application without having to worry about server stuff.02:24
holsteinjf__: have you setup an owncloud server?02:24
holsteinjf__: have you setup wordpress?02:24
holsteinjf__: have you setup just a simple LAMP stack?02:24
jitsusamaSay, you want to start up a web server, you order a cloud service from Amazon, and they give you a web portal where you can roll out your service to "x" virtual servers.02:24
jf__yes I did02:24
jitsusamaYou configure your application, with its software and data files, and then tell Amazon how much computing power to give it.02:25
holsteinjf__: these are a little offtopic here, but, i learned a lot from using them http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ ..you can run them live, and see how they are configured02:25
jf__just a owncloud server02:25
jitsusamaThey have an architecture that will spread out your load across multiple physical servers.02:25
jitsusamaThey just clustering technology, and fancy software to make this transparent to you.02:25
jitsusamaNow, maas allows you to present that kind of interface to your own customers. You have a bunch of physical servers, and you can provide a slick interface to dropping application services unto them.02:26
jseutterjf__: Have you thought about installing devstack on your system?02:26
linuxnoob5anyone know what this is http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-make-your-dual-boot-better-with-burg\02:26
jf__I was watching02:27
jf__http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1XH0SQARgo02:27
user_____Hello02:27
jitsusamajf__: Yeah, I saw that one too.02:27
Beldarlinuxnoob5, Burg is grub 2 with graphic loader choices02:28
jitsusamaYou still need the servers. Someone buys them, installs them, and then you can dynamically load services on to them. At least, that's how I understand it.02:28
jseutterjf__: yeah, maas is something that helps you when you want to set up a "cloud" on several servers.  It is essentially a way to quickly install an OS on a hardware box, so something like juju can come along and set up other services on it02:29
jf__ok02:29
jitsusamajseutter: Yeah, exactly.02:29
jf__well02:29
jitsusamaDHCP, PXE & what not allow you to load OS images fast.02:30
jf__if you want create a entermprise02:30
jitsusamaThen you use juju to dynamically allocate services.02:30
jseutterjf__: so in this case, mass would install ubuntu on some hardware, juju would install the openstack services like nova, mysql, horizon, etc.  Then at the end of it you would have your own running cloud02:30
jf__that offers iaas or saas02:30
jf__what will you do02:30
jitsusamaOr you could use openstack or something instead of juju.02:31
linuxnoob5Beldar,  how well do you know if it going to break my system -also i have just ubuntu installed02:31
user_____I would be thankful if anyone could answer my question. It's urgent at the moment. Ok, I have a project. I'm going to have a server with Ubuntu installed, and there will be another backup server identical to the main server. The clients initiate connections to the main server and get services, ideally using web requests. (static IP or domain name). If the main server goes down, the requests should be redirected to the backup serve02:31
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jitsusamasaas and iaas are another different concept.02:31
user_____Could someone give me an idea? :|02:32
jf__yes I know what do you need about saas or iaas02:32
jitsusamaThey can utilize the same technologies I guess, but it's not necessary.02:32
jitsusamaSaaS just means that you host software for a company on your server.02:32
jitsusamaTechnically, a web site is SaaS.02:33
jitsusamaInstead of the company needing a server running software X, you run it on your server, and give them access to it.02:33
Beldarlinuxnoob5, Depends on your skill set really, this area I know, others I don't, I work accordingly in each area.02:33
jitsusamaThat way, all they need to do is remotely access your server to use the software. Nothing (well sometimes a light client) needs to be installed on their machines.02:34
jseutterjf__: you could use maas to unstall a specially configured os on real hardware and offer non-virtual hardware as a service, but at that point it doesn't fit what most people think of as "cloud computing"02:34
user_____Is anyone with networking/server background? Need help. :|02:34
jf__me desmotivaron02:35
jf__lol02:35
jseutteruser_____: sorry, you didn't really ask a question.  Are you asking for input on what tools to use to make a setup like you described?02:35
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user_____Yes, basically, is that supposed to be solved by ISP?02:35
jitsusamahttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing has a good run-down on a lot of this.02:36
user_____Clients will have the IP address of the main server.02:36
user_____If the main server goes down, clients have no way of communication to the server.02:36
jitsusamauser_____: You want a load balancer in front.02:36
msehola02:36
user_____So the load balancer redirects the requests to the backup server if the main server is down?02:37
jitsusamaA good load balancer can use various means to discern if a server is available or not, and if it isn't, it can redirect the request to another identical backup server.02:37
jitsusamaExactly.02:37
user_____Ah I see. Is that the only solution?02:37
jitsusamaIt can use something as simple as pings to detect if the remote server is down, a simple HTTP request, or be even craftier.02:37
jitsusamaThat's the solution that a service provider would generally use.02:37
sdjkfaguestanybody have this same problem ? Tab doesn't focus search results anymore when ur logged in with chrome/chromium02:37
jitsusamaThe problem with load balancers is what if the load balancer fails.02:37
jf__somebody speak spanish02:37
sdjkfaguestany ideas ?02:37
user_____Cool, so the clients connect to the load balancer right?02:37
jitsusamaYeah.02:38
mseno spanish for me02:38
jitsusamaThey never know about the real servers.02:38
jitsusamaThe SSL certificates would be installed on the load balancer as well, if you're doing HTTPS.02:38
jf__who speak spanish02:38
kumarat9pmHi All, recently I bought my HP Envy with Windows 8 preloaded. I have 1TB(sda) HDD and 32GB(sdb) SSD. For fast I installed my ubuntu on my sdb. Howcan I tell to my bios to bootfrom sdb?02:38
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user_____Cool02:38
jitsusamaIt would act as a proxy server basically.02:38
jitsusamaAnd proxy your request appropriately depending on what server is available.02:38
user_____Is DNS resolution a solution as well? Could ISP handle that issue?02:39
jitsusamaIt can be.02:39
jitsusamaBut it depends upon the application.02:39
user_____Because what would happen if my load balancer goes down :|02:39
jitsusamaFor HTTP, not really.02:39
kumarat9pmAny one here?02:39
jitsusamaIt all depends how redundant you want to be.02:39
jitsusamaLoad balancers are pretty simple to cluster.02:39
holstein!patience > kumarat9pm02:39
ubottukumarat9pm, please see my private message02:39
user_____I see.02:39
jitsusamaYou could have them use VRRP upstream and when one fails, the other would take over the IP.02:40
holsteinkumarat9pm: you'll as the bios maintainer02:40
jseutteruser_____: for an example of a load balancer, you could look at HAProxy.  It is fairly simple by today's standards, but works well02:40
jitsusamaYeah, HAProxy supports a VRRP like operation.02:40
jitsusamaI believe it does at least.02:40
user_____Noted.02:40
kumarat9pmholstein: thanks for reply.  what is bios maintainer02:40
boldfilter1unity bar intellihide?02:40
kumarat9pmhttp://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45567380/how_to_install_Ubuntu_on_HP_Envy-4_ultrabook.pdf02:41
Jujuhello everybody!!!!02:41
user_____By the way, how can I approach the DNS resolution method?02:41
kumarat9pmholstein: I followed above link and I am struk with step302:41
jitsusamaDon't.02:41
user_____Is it something to do with ISP?02:41
msekumarat9pm - when u boot up, you should be able to press a key to enter the BIOS setup02:41
jitsusamaDNS resolution was tried, and failed.02:41
kumarat9pmmse: I can go in to bios02:41
kumarat9pmthen?02:41
user_____Ah I see02:41
msecool - then you wanna find the boot options02:41
jitsusamaIdeally SRV records would be used, but I don't think any browsers support it.02:42
jf__bueno gracias a todos02:42
jitsusamaAnd even then, you get nasty delays when the client is responsible for detecting a service as down.02:42
jf__thanks to all02:42
jitsusamajf__: You're welcome. Hopefully I was of some help.02:42
user_____Aha.02:42
JujuI am looking for an application like Geoenzo (or to get Wine play it)02:43
holsteinkumarat9pm: elaboarate02:43
jseutteruser_____: don't worry about DNS, that is not part of the problem you want to solve.  You want to have 1 ip address for the service, and if you have 2 proxy servers, have them sort out who has the ip address.02:43
jitsusamaTry HAProxy, or even nginx with some VRRP in the back-ground.02:43
user_____Do I need to get a service from a third party for a load balancer? I02:43
jitsusamaYou can, but you don't have to.02:43
user_____So I have to install the load balancer in my premises?02:43
jitsusamaYou can roll your own, find a vendor, or find some SaaS provider ;)02:44
holsteinJuju: how about some details on what it is? and what you are tyring to do? so i dont have to research that applications.. you can check in wineHQ about it02:44
jitsusamaIdeally.02:44
holstein!wine02:44
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu02:44
roujhello :)02:44
jitsusamaA10 Networks makes a nice load balancer. That's what my company uses.02:44
user_____Ok so, I will have to consider that my load balancer will have 100% availability?02:44
jitsusamaIf you make a pseudo cluster, you'll have pretty good availability.02:45
jitsusamaWho is this for?02:45
jitsusamaSome big company that can't deal with any down-time?02:45
jitsusamaIf so, use a load-balancer that is scalable and has super-quick failover.02:45
user_____It's for a research project, with 0 downtime.02:45
user_____with minimal cost maybe :)02:45
roujhi question.. i use videos 3.10.1 do i need to download a file to play 720 hd mpeg?02:45
Jujuholstein» geoenzo is an application to show in school-backgrounds how to draw with lines (geometry...). Wine doesn't support it yet, but it is an application really simple.. like PAINT... http://geoenzo.com/geoenzo/geoenzo.htm02:46
jitsusamaI haven't seen anything that gives 0 downtime, but I think HAProxy would be a good cheap bet.02:46
jseutteruser_____: yes, if your service needs to be up all the time, your load balancer is a single point of failure.  So you deal with that by having redundant load balancers.02:46
holsteinJuju: how about tux paint, or gimp then.. or inkscape02:46
jseutteruser_____: the closer you get to 0 downtime, the more complex and expensive the solution gets02:46
jitsusamaYeah, get 4 machines, 2 load balancers and 2 servers.02:47
user_____Is load balancer costly?02:47
jitsusamaHave the load balancers HA, and have the servers use a shared cache/database if possible.02:47
jitsusamaAn Open Source solution would cost you the price of a couple of cheap servers.02:47
user_____Ah ok, for the testing, I'm going to install in a laptop :)02:47
Jujuholstein» i mean a simple application like Paint, not a simple tool like paint. I need to show how to do it with the rules... the compass.. etc02:47
jitsusamaA 99.999% uptime solution would probably cost you a whole family of heart transplants.02:47
user_____Aha.02:48
holsteinJuju: and you've tried inkscape? and gimpe?02:48
Jujuholstein» yes, they don't show you the RULE and the Compass02:48
user_____I have never had an experience with a load balancer, let me google :)02:48
jitsusamaJust remember, if you're application servers don't have shared memory, you could have web sessions broken.02:49
jitsusamaIt depends on whether you are using cookies for session tracking or not, and whether it's your database or memory cache that's keeping track of user sessions.02:49
user_____Ah, that's a good point.02:49
jseutteruser_____: commercial ones can be had for a few thousand each, if they don't need to handle much traffic.  For starting out, you can try using a vm and set up the 4 machines in virtualbox or vmwore02:49
jitsusamaLol.02:49
jitsusamalibvirt/qemu.02:49
Jujuholstein» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaqEm1GafTo <---- with the rule and the compass... step by step02:50
jitsusamaVirtualBox is for whimps ;)02:50
user_____What I initially thought was, to shyncrhonize the backup server with the main server realtime.02:50
holsteinJuju: should be lots of plugins for both.. they are well suppoerte.d.02:50
jseutterjitsusama: heh, good point02:50
jitsusamauser_____: Yeah, that's a start.02:50
jitsusamaPHP likes to keep sessions in memory.02:50
jitsusamaThat will kill sessions if you have a server failover.02:50
holsteinJuju: in not interested in watching a video, but, i would just try it in wine... have you tried it in wine? you can run windows in virtualbox/vm or ask them for a native linux app02:50
user_____Oops. Lol.02:51
jitsusamaIf you can keep your sessions in the database, and the databases are replicated, then you have a shared memory store in effect.02:51
jitsusamaThat way you should be able to survive a failover, unless they were right in the middle of a transaction02:51
jitsusamaTo handle transaction failovers, you need literal shared memory.02:51
johndropperI am booting in legacy mode but ubuntu will still not detect my operating system so I can install along side windows02:51
Jujuholstein» this was i just asked the first time!!! have you read me at all??02:51
jitsusamaOnce again, it depends how resilient you want to be.02:51
user_____Perhaps I might be able to initiate a session again.02:51
jitsusamaRedundancy and resiliency are separate concepts.02:51
jitsusamaYes, you could.02:52
JujuI am looking for an application like Geoenzo (or to get Wine play it)02:52
jitsusamaWhat type of traffic will it be handling?02:52
nuungreetings. what does /etc/pam.d/common-sessions do?02:52
user_____By the way, what company do you work for? If you don;t mind. :) So I could tell my supervisor ;)02:52
jitsusamaLike, what sort of application.02:52
holsteinJuju: as a volunteer, i did read what you posted.. have you tried it frist hand yoursefl in wine?02:52
jitsusamaLol, I'm a VoIP specialist.02:52
johndropperany help?02:52
user_____Aha.02:52
jitsusamaI work for a major Telco in Canada.02:52
Jujuholstein» yes, I tried it. It doesnt work.02:52
jitsusamaBut I've done a lot of server work in past lives.02:52
user_____It's for a tracking systemm. Say, taxi companies could send coordinates of vechiles to a central system.02:52
holsteinJuju: well, try here of the wine channel with specific questions, if you like02:53
user_____company can see the vehicles realtime.02:53
malv83what causes cryptsetup to go into the initramfs02:53
user_____it's an example.02:53
Jujuholstein» ok.02:53
holsteinJuju: otherwise, try adding a rule to gimp, inkscape or libreoffice draw02:53
malv83for some reason it refuses to open my encrypted partitions02:53
Jammerx2I lost access to the GUI while upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04, will I be able to finish without being able to see any prompts (such as the keep or overwrite ones)? I still have access to the other tty sessions, but can't get the GUI back up.02:53
jitsusamaOk, so resiliency isn't as important as redundancy I'd say.02:53
jitsusamaNot a lot of transactional content, mostly just read only access.02:53
Jujuholstein» ok. thanks for the suggestions02:53
jitsusamaLoad balancers should be enough for you.02:53
holsteinJuju: i realize it can be frustrating, but, linux is not doing anything to prevent that application from running natively..02:54
holsteinJuju: you might also find an online server, or html5 type thing that you could pull up in any web brwoser that would address your needs02:54
user_____Yep, oh I forgot, we plan for 1 million trackers.02:54
jitsusamaHokey.02:54
user_____Ideally, 1 million trackers will send coordinates etc. within a minute.02:55
jitsusamaHow will they update your system?02:55
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user_____They send data through tcp or http.02:55
jitsusamaRight from the Taxi cab?02:55
user_____Yep.02:55
user_____Ideally, 1 million taxi cabs? :)02:55
kumarat9pmholstein: my system is uefi boot.. so I do not see my SSD(sdb) in boot order02:55
Jujuholstein» ... i know the fault is of Linux... what the hell?02:55
jitsusamaSo they'll use satellite to give live GPS coordinates straight to your server?02:55
jitsusamaOr will they just use a smartphone app?02:56
Jujuholstein» hahaha.. it's a joke02:56
user_____Not just taxi cabs,, anything, as long as there is a tracker.02:56
Tiankun.02:56
user_____oh no no,02:56
holstein!uefi | kumarat9pm02:56
ubottukumarat9pm: UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI02:56
jseutterhm, I managed to get apt get into a loop where it can't upgrade initscripts, upstart and ifupdown because they are each waiting for the other to be configured.  Is there some way I can fix it without trashing my system?02:56
user_____We don't consider the hardware side. As long as a tracker, say, a smartphone app, a hardware tracker could send data through internet to our server, it should work.02:57
holsteinkumarat9pm: i try and purchase with linux support in mind, so i havent had to deal with it personalluy, but you should have an option to disable what is giving you trouble.. though, that might "Break" windows02:57
jitsusamaGroovy.02:57
jitsusamaOnce again, you won't have to worry about keeping state.02:57
jitsusamaThey send an update, it's acknowledged, and it's done.02:57
kumarat9pmholstein: I am least bother about windows..02:57
user_____Yep, only thing is I will uniquely identify who sent it.02:58
kumarat9pmso no problem if I break M$ windows..02:58
jitsusamaIf an update fails because you were in the middle of transitioning servers, then it will work on the next try.02:58
user_____cool.02:58
RedGodI just upgraded to 14.04 and I am having an issue with flash on chromium and was wonder if there is a fix for it02:58
jitsusamaYou just don't want them to have to change their config everytime a server changes activity due to maintenance or catastrophy.02:58
user_____So load balancing is the way to go?02:58
jseutterjitsusama: I see what you mean, like the system will fix itself quickly when there is a failover...02:58
holsteinRedGod: i use flash from chrome.. not the linux flash that is older02:58
jitsusamaYeah, geo-diverse, with geo-diverse application servers.02:58
jitsusamaYeah.02:59
SonikkuAmericaRedGod: Are you using flashplugin-installer or the pepflashplugin-installer from the PPA?02:59
jitsusamaI'm telco, so we always think about this sort of stuff.02:59
jitsusamaI blow up a building, telephone services keep working.02:59
user_____Cool, ok.02:59
wolflarsonhey guys quick question: i installed 14.04 in VirtualBox to mess about with the ubuntuSDK but openGL is not installed / is not working. How should i go about getting that up and running?02:59
jitsusamaCheap servers, at 2 sites with a decent internet uplink.02:59
jitsusamaLoad Balancer 1 and Application Server 1 at location A.02:59
Jammerx2RedGod: switch to system flash if the included is broken02:59
jitsusamaLoad Balancer 2 and Application Server 2 at location B.03:00
RedGodSonikkuAmerica: flashplugin-installer03:00
jitsusamaDatabase could run on a third pair of redundant servers, or not.03:00
user_____I just got motivated :)03:00
jitsusamaActually, I'd use 2 physical servers.03:00
jitsusamaAnd use VMs.03:00
jitsusamaThat way you're cheap, simple, and flexible.03:00
jitsusama3 VMs each. One for load balancing, one for web server, one for database server.03:01
SonikkuAmericaRedGod: Make sure you [ sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] after you install.03:01
holsteinRedGod: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html03:01
jitsusamaThat way, on OS upgrades &etc, you don't have to mess up any more than one service.03:01
user_____Ah.03:01
Jammerx2Any suggestions for this: I lost access to the GUI while upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04, will I be able to finish without being able to see any prompts (such as the keep or overwrite ones)? I still have access to the other tty sessions, but can't get the GUI back up.03:01
jitsusamaThe host OS should do nothing but NTP, Syslog and Libvirt.03:01
jitsusamaThe guest OS's do everything else.03:01
jitsusamaThat way, you should almost never have to upgrade the host.03:02
RedGodSonikkuAmerica: everything is up to date03:02
holsteinJammerx2: as any user? no GUI? no unity? gnome? what?03:02
RedGodholsteinve it a shot: thanks I will gi03:02
user_____That means I have only one database that both the main and backup server connect to?03:02
RedGodholstein: thanks ill give it a shot03:02
jitsusama2 databases.03:02
jitsusamaone on each server.03:03
jitsusamaReplicated.03:03
jitsusamaThey will be your main "data" store.03:03
user_____Ah good, same as I thought. The main server will syncrhonize with the backup server in real time, right?03:03
jitsusamaYeah.03:03
jitsusamaPostgresql is supposed to be really good for that.03:03
jitsusamaUsing their slon replication daemon.03:04
user_____Nice.03:04
Jammerx2holstein: Can't start unity when I try, unity-panel-service job doesn't exist03:04
user_____Postgresql is what we've thought already :)03:04
jitsusamaGood thinking then :)03:04
user_____We were thinking about big data as well.03:04
jitsusamaAnalytics?03:05
jitsusamaWhat time of research project is this? :)03:05
jitsusamablah, type.03:05
holsteinJammerx2: i would be looking into the graphics drivers that maybe were not removed before the upgrade.. i would even consider vesa driver temporarily if i need/want a GUI to fix03:05
malv83is there any security vulnerabilities if you don't encrypt the root partition?03:05
user_____Oh well, we should be able to view reports :)03:05
malv83assuming home/swap are encrypted03:05
lotuspsychjemorning to all03:06
user_____morning03:07
jitsusamauser_____: Do I have you on the right path now?03:08
lotuspsychjedoes the hide guest account and usernames hide trick on lightdm.conf still work on trusty?03:08
Jammerx2How exactly would I do that holstein, I'm currently on my phone as I don't have a computer nearby (with anything other than a shell)03:08
user_____Yes, I copeid the chat for further analysis :)03:08
jitsusamaGroovy.03:08
user_____Btw, thanks a lot, I don't think I thought of load balancers before ;)03:09
holsteinJammerx2: well, you woudl confirm that you had proprietary drivers in place that could be broken.. and remove them.. you can add a custom xorg.conf.. you'll need to be at the box to try these things03:09
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jitsusamaLoad balancers make it so that users don't have to re-config when servers change. Shared data-stores means that whichever back-end server is active, it doesn't matter, they can still handle traffic.03:09
holsteinJammerx2: as some point, a fresh install would be an option for me.. since it wouldn not take long03:09
jitsusamaThe other benefit to load balancers is in the name, you can spread your load across both servers.03:09
user_____Yep, thanks a lot.03:10
user_____Btw, when are you available here?03:10
jitsusamaRandomly.03:10
jitsusamaI just started up IRC again in the last few days.03:10
jitsusamaI can PM you my email though.03:10
user_____Oh ok, that would be cool.03:10
Jammerx2Is it difficult to recover from an interrupted upgrade? I have no idea how far along it is and want to attempt a restart03:11
jitsusamaIf you end up going public based upon my help, I'll expect kick-backs ;)03:11
johndropperi need som ehelp03:12
clue_hwe all do03:12
johndropperI am trying to install ubuntu along side windows 8 and it will not detect my windows803:12
johndropperany help?03:12
johndropperI tried this and it still doesnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI03:13
johndropperi really want this to work03:13
johndropperany help?03:13
SonikkuAmericaJammerx2: Is it a release upgrade?03:14
lotuspsychjeJohnDory: did you disable secureboot?03:14
johndropperyes03:14
Jammerx2Upgrading from 13.10 to 14.0403:14
lotuspsychjejohndropper: and ubuntu 14.04 doesnt see your win8 partition?03:14
johndroppercorrect03:15
johndropperubuntu 14.04 yes03:15
johndropperdoesnt see windows 803:15
lotuspsychjejohndropper: any other options in bios could prevent it?03:15
johndropperI loked adn I dont see anything03:15
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johndropperI am now botting legacy03:16
johndropperbooting03:16
johndropperstill doesnt see it03:16
lotuspsychjejohndropper: maybe ask in ##hardware first, what steps to take for your computer to disable secureboot03:16
dipseydoodleHello. Anybody up at these hours?03:16
RahailHI there how are you I got ubuntu lts4 this system i install it few time.. I can not find what is the reason off limition off virult port03:16
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: this channel hekps worlwide at any times :p03:16
Rahaili can not connect more then 5 device03:16
dipseydoodleCool!03:16
johndropperany help?03:17
lotuspsychjejohndropper: if ubuntu doesnt sees w8, something prevents it from bios03:17
dipseydoodleI am looking at creating a flavour based off Ubuntu, specifically for myself but I will give it to anybody who wants it. So far I have the current stable amd64 iso mounted and just looked at all my installed packages. This is gonna be fun and I have a few questions, that I could use some help with.03:18
lucarghi03:18
johndropperso I guess my bios wont allow it huh?03:18
RahailAny idea where do i need to go and icnrease the tty port limition03:18
lotuspsychjejohndropper: you need to take a deeper look i think03:18
johndropperive gone balls deep with no luck sir03:19
lotuspsychjejohndropper: i would erase w8 once and for good, and single boot ubuntu :p03:19
emmeteaquick question, i was going to edit the grub2/images page because there is a syntax error in the one command, but it is locked, who should i contact about this?03:19
johndropperg thanks03:19
Beldarjohndropper, This thread gives some good info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=214729503:19
lucarganyone use awk_03:19
lucarg?03:19
lotuspsychjelucarg: best is to shoot your issue on it03:20
dipseydoodleI'm sure this is a simple question, but I simply want to remove the GUI, from the cd, how do I go about doing that?03:20
emmeteait is just a simple "-V" versus a "-v" but one gives you the version, what they meant, and one compiles with verbose.03:20
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: you want an ubuntu cd without unity to install for other users?03:20
lucargi have a .txt that have text and number i need extract number and save in another file03:21
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: or you mean a textbase setup?03:21
dipseydoodlelotuspychje No I want a graphical setup I just don't want a gui at boot03:21
jc_I just installed 14.04 on an asus laptop and I am getting no sound out of my laptop. if I load up pulse volume it says that internal speakers are unavailable and that headphones are plugged in. If I select the speakers it works until I reboot. any idea what I should do to fix this?03:22
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: well unity comes in by default, not sure if there's a trick to that03:22
johndropperwont work guys sorry. mark this as solved03:22
dipseydoodleOk. Is there a way to remove a package completely?03:22
johndropperi gave it my all03:22
johndropperlol03:22
lotuspsychje!sound | jc_03:22
ubottujc_: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.03:22
lucargawk '$2 ~ "^[1-9][1-9]*$" { print $2 }' 7.txt > outputfile.txt03:23
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: there is a way to create custom installs yes, look up unattended ubuntu03:23
dipseydoodleI'm going to use this soley for programming and simply text based web browsing/developing. I'll probably use programs like perl, python etcetera03:23
dipseydoodleok03:23
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: aptoncd can also work magic03:24
dipseydoodleOk03:24
lotuspsychje!info aptoncd | dipseydoodle03:24
ubottudipseydoodle: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.4 (trusty), package size 213 kB, installed size 1561 kB03:24
dipseydoodleOooh a bot :P03:24
dipseydoodleMay I ask what this one is based off of?03:24
johndropperthanks fro nothing03:24
lotuspsychjejohndropper: dont loose faith like that, iv suggested you the ##hardware channel03:25
lotuspsychjejohndropper: what brand is your computer anyway?03:25
Jordan_U!brain | dipseydoodle03:25
ubottudipseydoodle: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone03:25
dipseydoodleHmm so this is basically a suse type thing. As in it creates a specific cd from downloaded files then?03:25
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: it creates your favorite packages cd yes03:26
johndropperits ad ell03:26
johndropperdell03:26
lotuspsychjevery handy!03:26
dipseydoodleOk03:26
johndropperdell03:26
lotuspsychjejohndropper: ask ##hardware channel howto disable secureboot on your dell03:26
lotuspsychjejohndropper: then try again ubuntu install03:26
dipseydoodleI mainly looking at editing it manually for my own learning but also so I can refine it mor so03:26
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lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: you could install ubuntu server maybe, that has no GUI at boot03:27
dipseydoodleSo there is no way to just add main packages to a cd that I've mounted and have then there when I pop the cd in?03:27
dipseydoodleI have looked at that too but then I'll be missing lots of stuff03:27
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lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: then aptoncd can help you :p03:28
dipseydoodleOk03:28
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lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: what is your end goal on the no-HUI thing?03:28
lotuspsychjeGUI03:29
dipseydoodleBasically to have a plain Xterm whith the shell, where I can have several programming languages pre-installed. Have less space taken up and be able to use Lynx to browse the web imagelessly03:30
davidpchello, is there a way how to get access to older packages in ubuntu (without using ppa)? I need to downgrade to vlc 2.0.8 (i am using ubuntu 14.04 which has vlc 2.1.2), thank you03:30
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: if you have no need of unity at all, i would consider ubuntu server03:30
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: you can install links2 on the server aswell03:30
dipseydoodleRight, but I want to make my own distro for myself so I can learn about this :P03:31
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: and aptoncd all your favorite (programming) packages with it03:31
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: thats another story :p03:31
dipseydoodle:p lol03:31
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: you want to help develope?03:31
louiematcan anyone tell me why I have no jobs under- ' Applications' where Menu Applications Places are on the top line of Pinguy os 14.0403:31
tnkhow do i force xubuntu 13.10 to upgrade to 14.04? I run update-manager -d but it doesn't present 14.04 is available for upgrade.. why??03:32
dipseydoodleIn what ways. I can't guarantee total availabilty03:32
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: not sure where to point you, for creating new distro (ubuntu based)03:33
lotuspsychjemaybe someone else know this?03:33
RahailI need help with limition on tty port03:33
Rahailcan some one guide mplease03:33
dipseydoodlelotuspsychje : I am a big time developer for open source. Namely Wesnoth as a UMC developer. my goal here is to make my own distro that will fit my needs and not have anything else.03:33
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: ubuntu based distro?03:34
louiematcan anyone see my question-can anyone tell me why I have no jobs under- ' Applications' where Menu Applications Places are on the top line of Pinguy os 14.0403:34
davidpctnk, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-0403:34
Beldarlouiemat, Pinguy has their own channel is the issue.03:35
dipseydoodleUbuntu is fine. I've also looked into other ones aswell like Slax etc... I really started thinking seriously after I couldn't install DreamStudio linux on my laptop :P03:35
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: well you understand we can only support ubuntu questions here03:35
dipseydoodleYes03:35
louiematyes I have no applications under applications03:35
dipseydoodleThat's why I'm here03:35
ejuani have an older amd system, i have cool n quiet enabled in the bios and cpu speed scaling is working but the cpu fan still seams loud, is there any where i can modify the cpu fan speed settings?03:36
dipseydoodleI just want to know how to remove and add packages to the install cd. That's it. I got evverything else going.03:36
dipseydoodle:P03:36
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: maybe start here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto03:36
dipseydoodleok03:36
dipseydoodle:P03:36
ejuanlm-sensors shows 18c for core0 and 24c for core103:37
lotuspsychjedipseydoodle: some handy tools on there, so it seems03:37
tnkhow do i force xubuntu 13.10 to upgrade to 14.04? I run update-manager -d but it doesn't present 14.04 is available for upgrade.. why??03:37
funtablei have one desktop pentium4 with 2gb of memory ram, can i use ubuntu 14.04 or is better use a older distribution ?03:37
ejuanrunning ubuntu 12.04  no x server03:38
lotuspsychjefuntable: that should do the trick allright, if your grafix card can handle it03:38
Beldarfuntable, any if the ubuntu desktops should run.03:38
Beldarof*03:38
Rahaillotuspsychje can you give me hint please about my TTY limition03:39
funtablethanks03:39
lotuspsychjeRahail: sorry mate dont know about your issue03:39
davidpcso i will presume that only way to get older versions of packages to newer ubuntu is through ppas:)03:39
lagboxanyone know if the tab's title font can be changed in chromium ... 14.04 ?03:40
RahailI installed the OS 3-5 time still i can not connect more then 5 virtule device03:40
Rahailonly limited03:40
napster499Hey how do i boot ubuntu alongside windows 703:40
napster499i wanna boot ubuntu 14.403:40
Beldar!dualboot | napster49903:40
ubottunapster499: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:41
holstein!dualboot03:41
holsteinnapster499: 14.04*03:41
napster499thanks holstein03:41
johndropperOk I partitioned my windows drive and left 117 gb free space03:43
Rahail!pastebin03:43
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:43
johndropperI am now hoping to boot ubuntu from that03:43
johndropperdoes that make sense?03:43
Rahailhere are the link of those error i am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280891/03:44
Rahaillotuspsychje @ please take look if you can http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280891/03:44
markolo25anyone expierienced with ubuntu server?03:45
johndropperme03:45
johndropperi know 5% of what it can do03:45
markolo25after installing ubuntu 14.04, my server dosen't get to the login prompt and get's stuck at EXT4-fs  : remounted Opts: errors=remount-ro03:45
markolo25i can ssh into it03:46
johndroppercreate new user03:46
johndroppererase old03:46
lagboxwhy chromium why did you add stupid features that people don't want03:47
markolo25can that person use sudo already03:48
markolo25or do i have to do something to let him use sudo?03:48
markolo25cool03:49
markolo25same problem03:49
markolo25i'm stuck in a screen that looks like dmesg03:50
markolo25ssh works03:50
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markolo25it's stuck at "Adding 7550972k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:7550972k SSFS03:52
markolo25i have a feeling this is like pressing ctrl alt f1 on the desktop version03:52
teaearlgraycoldMy terminal seems to have a limited ASCII table available. Is there a reason for this? MOst non alpha-numeric characters won't print.03:53
mjaykHaya my sound indicator (top right) dissapears when I logon 14.04 64bit unity, any help appricated03:55
markolo25^_^ 14.04 is amazing on the desktop even with an amd card03:56
mjaykmarkolo25: +1 to that03:57
lagboxmarkolo25, yes it is04:00
lagboxnow if i could just get rid of this completely rediculous fontsize that chromium UI is using04:01
markolo25which chromium are you talking about, the OS or the browser?04:02
Rahailthis is the simular issue04:02
Rahaili am facing with ubuntu04:02
Rahail:(04:02
lagboxbrowser04:03
markolo25are there advantages to using LVM?04:03
lagboxits like 20px size font used everywhere and you can't change it04:03
lagboxhow stupid is that f**king sh*t04:03
markolo25are you sure it's not your resolution04:04
lagboxyes i am sure04:05
lagboxbecause then everyrhing would be different04:05
lagboxnot just chromium04:05
lagboxmakes chromium look like dog crap04:05
davidrsmorrislagbox, is your gtk 2.0 font set?04:08
masoudborborwhat is the command to remove a repository?04:08
rww!ppa-purge04:08
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html04:08
masoudborbortx04:08
lagboxgood question04:10
lagboxdavidrsmorris, set that font where ?04:15
Ayyadanyone haveing issues with ecrypt-setup-private on 14.04?  I'm getting an error which appears to be caused by the mount -i in the script04:16
Ayyadecryptfs-setup-private*04:16
MaxSantry #ubuntu+104:17
MaxSanfor 14.04 Qs04:17
SallyhadALittleLperhaps encryption is illegal in your country?04:17
SallyhadALittleLoh or not04:17
SallyhadALittleL:P04:17
mshepanskiSilly question: WHen looking at the output of "top" on the command line, does the unit "m" under VERT,RES,SHR stand for million or megabytes? (the man pages dont seem to say)04:18
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mshepanskiThe man page does say the values are in Kilobytes, so I imagine the m is million, but I want to be sure.04:18
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MaxSani i rebuilt unity with the instructions at...04:19
NosecuentAHi guys04:20
MaxSanhttps://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/04:20
NosecuentAAnybody here can help me with the installation of and Old Ati graphic card?04:20
tropicyes04:20
NosecuentAIn ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS04:20
MaxSanI ran unity once i had made my modifications and done a rebuild04:20
tropicr u having driver issues sir?04:20
MaxSannow when i login the UI is completely dead. it was fine before restart.04:21
MaxSanany suggestions on how to fix?04:21
tropiccompletely dead as in?04:21
tropicblack screen?04:21
tropicnothing shows up?04:21
MaxSani login and it just a desktop background04:21
MaxSanno unity04:21
MaxSanunity doesnt load at all04:21
lagboxdavidrsmorris, doesn't matter what i set font to .. doesn't change in chromium04:21
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NosecuentAtropic, yes im having troubles with it04:22
NosecuentA:(04:22
tropicNosecuentA04:22
tropicu could remove the ati card04:22
tropicfrom ur motherboard04:22
NosecuentAbut i want to use it...04:22
lucargi have open the cd of yellow page with wine can i copy this to mysql?04:22
tropicyes04:22
lucarghttp://prntscr.com/3bdhil04:22
tropicbut u wont be able to04:22
tropicif the ui is dead04:22
tropicu need to access the ui for debugging04:23
lucargthis is the screen shot http://prntscr.com/3bdhil04:23
NosecuentANo!04:23
NosecuentAI am running the desktop version now04:23
NosecuentAI came from a scratch :/04:23
davidrsmorrislagbox, have you tried applying a gtk 2.0 theme?  Sometimes I've found that settings made anywhere else get overridden.04:24
lagboxdavidrsmorris, thanks for the reply04:24
tropicNosecuentA04:24
tropicu should still be able04:24
lagboxi have a stock 14.04 with unity04:24
tropicto ssh to ur box04:24
tropiceven if the ui is dead04:24
davidrsmorris(I say 2.0 because I remember Chrome only changed its appearance when I messed around with the 2.0 part of my theme)04:24
NosecuentAmmm04:24
tropiccheck ur router's clientlist04:24
lagboxyea04:24
tropicto find the ip of ur box04:24
tropicand then ssh to it04:24
NosecuentAi spend two hours04:24
lagboxi know there are some issues ... but i thought they were resolved in this version04:25
NosecuentAtrying to recover the graphic system04:25
lagboxi will change theme and see what happens04:25
NosecuentAnow I installed the Ubuntu 12.04.1 version04:25
davidrsmorrisVersion of chromium or GTK?  Does the new chromium use the 3.0 theme?04:25
NosecuentAbut i don't know how to install the ati driver in order to make it run properly04:25
MaxSananyone have any suggestions?04:25
NosecuentAThis is my Graphic Card:04:26
NosecuentA02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]04:26
lagboxdavidrsmorris, i was hoping so04:26
lucargto what?04:26
Rahailany one ever had issue with Issues with multiple USB card readers attached .. in ubuntu04:26
lagboxi know they made changes with how they get fonts from gtk04:26
NosecuentAD:04:27
davidrsmorrisHa, fonts can be evil.  one time I tried to install DIN fonts and broke my Unity.  Switched to Awesome.04:28
tropichmm04:28
tropicu may have to manually install the driver04:28
tropicas in, compile the kernel module04:28
tropicbut, this is assuming uv exhausted all options04:28
tropicand failing that04:28
tropicit could be indeed that the version of ubuntu u installed doesnt work with it04:28
lucarguse lxde04:28
tropicin which case u should submit a bug report04:28
lagboxyikes04:28
lagboxwell when i change font through dconf or unity tweak .. it doesn't change chromium04:29
tropicunity is a disaster04:29
tropicso is gnome304:29
marlencrabappleso my global menu just disappeared04:29
tropiceverything was fine with gnome2.304:29
NosecuentAanybody here can help me?04:29
marlencrabappleand everything gui related is lagging04:29
holsteinNosecuentA: just try the open driver first then..04:30
holstein!ati > NosecuentA04:30
ubottuNosecuentA, please see my private message04:30
marlencrabappleany idea how i can find what's responsible?04:30
davidrsmorrislagbox, I got tired of limited tweaking in chrome and ended up installing firefox with slimmish... if you like webkit, you might want to look at uzbl-tabbed.04:30
lagboxi like chromium ... just this font issue and url bar issue is like a ... really bad addition that is unneeded04:30
tropicmarlencrabapple04:31
marlencrabapplei assumed the terrible lag had something to do with my gpu, but since the global menu disappeared i'm thinking its software related04:31
tropicsometimes gui lag04:31
lagboxi think they are trying to make this nicer on high dpi screens or something and touch interfaces ... but that just ruins my desktop experience04:31
tropicoccurs because04:31
tropicgraphics drivers r not installed04:31
tropicu should check dmesg04:31
tropicto see if graphics drivers r loaded04:31
marlencrabapplei'm using the proprietary drivers04:31
tropicwhat r the specs of ur computer?04:31
tropicis it old?04:31
marlencrabapplenot at all04:31
NosecuentAUbottu, i did it but i don't see anything04:31
ubottuNosecuentA: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:31
holsteinNosecuentA: ubuntu is a bot04:32
marlencrabapplethis is definately a software issue04:32
marlencrabappleit only appeared after over 24 hours of usage04:32
NosecuentAholstein, i tried it04:32
holsteinNosecuentA: ok.04:32
NosecuentAbut i need the propietary drivers04:32
holstein!nomodeset | NosecuentA04:32
ubottuNosecuentA: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:32
marlencrabapplei had a similar issue on windows a year ago on the same GPU04:32
lagboxisn't there like a gtk2 pref util ?04:32
JanuszHello. Is the an easy way to install Cinnamon 2.2 in Ubuntu 14.04?04:32
holsteinNosecuentA: no, you are assuming you need those04:32
NosecuentAnop04:32
NosecuentAi came from Windows xp04:32
marlencrabapplebut i'm pretty sure it had to do with chrome canary leaking memory04:33
NosecuentAi use the same pc to play counter strike and i always get 100 fps04:33
marlencrabapplegpu memory to be exact04:33
NosecuentAwith the open source driver, i just got 60 fps04:33
tropichmmm04:33
holsteinNosecuentA: windows support is irrelevant04:33
marlencrabapplebut yeah, my global menu went missing, so i think this is a unity bug04:33
NosecuentAis not the same, the engine of the game isn't so smooth04:33
NosecuentAyou can't play04:34
holsteinNosecuentA: the manufacturers are always welcome to support linux, and are more and more these days.. but, you will need to be comfortable with compromise, or use what the manufacturer intendes04:34
NosecuentAhttps://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx04:34
NosecuentALook04:34
NosecuentAI have ubuntu 12.04.104:34
NosecuentAI use 3.2 kernel04:34
NosecuentAand Xorg 1.11.304:34
lagboxdavidrsmorris, where specifically is the gtk2 font set compared to gtk3 ?04:34
NosecuentAthe last driver of ati was legacy 13.1 (that supports my card)04:34
holsteinNosecuentA: sure. use it then04:34
NosecuentAand i fill all the requirement.04:35
folkiei'm using Ubuntu GNOME, and i noticed there are no longer icons by default on the desktop. how do i get them back? id like my desktop files to appear on top of the wallpaper.04:35
holsteinNosecuentA: but, you should try the open one first04:35
marlencrabapplefor once in my life i'm pissed off that htop isn't showing any processes using an abnormal amount of cpu04:35
holsteinNosecuentA: you may have to run 12.04 for that04:35
marlencrabappleor memory for that matter04:35
marlencrabappleeverything seems fine on paper04:35
Ayyadmarlencrabapple, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'04:35
Ayyadwhat does that tell you?04:35
NosecuentAin 12.04 i had 3.11.0.9 kernel04:35
marlencrabappleKernel driver in use: nvidia04:35
NosecuentAand Xorg 1.14 :/04:35
marlencrabappletrust me, the problem isn't between the chair and the keyboard04:36
holsteinNosecuentA: so, you have all the facts there, friend04:36
marlencrabapplethis is definitely a software issue04:36
davidrsmorrislagbox, ~/.themes/[theme]/gtk-2.0/gtkrc04:36
Ayyadhowabout trying to regenerate a new xorg.conf (and yes, I know technically you don't nead one anymore)04:36
marlencrabappleme?04:37
NosecuentAWell honestly, i have my doubts with it.04:37
marlencrabapplei already know rebooting will "fix" the issue04:37
NosecuentACan you check the website and tell me if 'will' work for me?04:37
holsteinNosecuentA: ask the manufacturer what driver is "best", and use whatever the driver requires04:37
marlencrabapplei just want to know whats causing this so i can file a bug report or something04:37
NosecuentAmy english is not so good and maybe i'm missing some importan information04:37
holsteinNosecuentA: i just use what works first hand.. i try the open ones first, then go from there04:38
next-generationhallo04:38
johnrose13I updated to 14.04 but my bootloader still says beta. Is there a reason for that?04:38
marlencrabapplestrangely enough i did not have this issue on 12.0404:38
next-generationwas geht :)04:38
holsteinNosecuentA: you are just expecting it to work like it did in windows, and it may not do that.. you were not promised that04:38
NosecuentAyeah offcourse not, but will work better than the open source driver04:39
next-generationgerman bro04:39
marlencrabapplewould it help if i said that i'm experiencing 10-15 second freezes during certain transitions04:39
marlencrabapplelike unminimizing a window04:40
marlencrabappleor opening a dialog04:40
marlencrabappleduring which i can't move my mouse onto my second screen04:40
lagboxdavidrsmorris, im using the ambiance from 14.0404:40
holsteinNosecuentA: not necessarily, friend.. try the open one first04:40
shiroxJust installed 14.04, what a buzz-kill04:40
shiroxlooks the same to me. But it's great that you now can have the menu in the windows instead of on the top of the screen.04:41
marlencrabappleright now i'm haphazardly killing chrome background processes04:41
lagboxno mention of font in that gtkrc file04:41
johnrose13any reason why the bootloader still says beta with 14.04?04:41
shiroxWhen it comes to UI, windows still has it.04:41
marlencrabappleand each time the "are you sure" dialog pops up04:41
marlencrabapplei'm stuck for ~10 seconds04:41
holstein!ot | shirox04:41
ubottushirox: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:41
holsteinshirox: feel free and try any UI you like04:42
next-generationGERMAN? BRO :S04:42
shiroxjohnrose13: I'd guess that the upgrade left the current installed kernel unchanged (called beta), which probably is the same as the official release.04:42
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johnrose13how do i fix it?04:42
holsteinnext-generation: let us konw if you have a support question.. otherwise, use the offtopic channel04:43
holsteinjohnrose13: are you up to date? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?04:44
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marlencrabapplewell randomly killing chromium background processes didn't help04:45
marlencrabappleso this isn't the same chrome gpu memory leak i had back on windows04:45
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johnrose13let me see04:45
dw1shirox: you can install gnome-session-flashback for a more typical UI04:45
marlencrabapplewhich was kind of obvious from the start, but i gotta cover all my bases i guess04:45
dw1shirox: install and choose at login04:45
marlencrabappleguess i'll kill compiz and see what happens04:46
dw1shirox: there are other windows managers/UIs too04:46
MaxSanplease guys some help would be awesome04:46
dw1shirox: try that with windows ;) not :P04:46
holsteinMaxSan: i dont see your query?04:46
dw1he logs in and just gets background nothing else in unity04:47
MaxSanholstein my unity is broken04:47
davidrsmorrislagbox, is that a gtk theme?  Either way, you should install one to your .icons before you start changing (and breaking) it.04:47
MaxSani rebuilt from source and fixed what needed change, was fine04:47
next-generationhey bro, I have the ISO file for the virtual box have the04:48
MaxSanthen i shutdown and power up and now unity doesnt load04:48
holsteinMaxSan: undo the changes you made04:48
MaxSanhow?04:48
MaxSanthe changes work fine04:48
MaxSanthey reloaded right away and were fine04:48
BeldarMaxSan, Is compiz running?04:48
next-generationI need the iso file for virtualbox?04:48
lagboxhas a gtk2 and gtk3 folder04:48
lotuspsychjedoes that hide-guest and hide-usernames at login still work on lightdm.conf on trusty?04:48
MaxSanhow do i check this?04:48
next-generationI need the iso file for virtualbox? ??04:48
lotuspsychjesomeone tested this?04:48
MaxSanhow do i get a root terminal up with a blank screen or from the login menu?04:48
holsteinnext-generation: you can install guest additions from the repo04:48
holsteinMaxSan: the recovery kernel04:49
dw1MaxSan: ctrl-alt-f1 , then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back04:49
MaxSanwith a live cd?04:49
holsteinMaxSan: no04:49
MaxSanahh04:49
MaxSanok04:49
user_____hi04:49
dw1MaxSan: or reboot to repair prompt04:49
MaxSansec il try04:49
holstein!tty | MaxSan04:49
ubottuMaxSan: To get to the TTY terminals 1-6, use the keystroke ctrl + alt + F1-F6 respectively (Alt+F7 will get you back to your graphical login).  To change the resolution for your TTY, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ChangeTTYResolution04:49
next-generationthis also works on usb stick? ??04:49
marlencrabappleso i killed and restarted unity via ssh04:49
holsteinnext-generation: this?04:49
marlencrabappleand everything is running smoothly again04:49
marlencrabappleis there any way i can track what's causing the extreme slowdown and freezes so i can report it?04:50
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next-generationfor virtualbox04:50
marlencrabappleall i know so far is killing and restarting unity makes everything fine again04:50
someHumanWhat's a good app for network speed test?04:50
holsteinmarlencrabapple: what graphics driver?04:50
BeldarMaxSan, Why did you build unity?04:50
MaxSani had to remove the whitelist from the panel04:51
next-generationcan I bring a USB stick to run virtualbox ?04:51
MaxSanmany apps i use are panel centric04:51
MaxSanwithout them they dont function correctly04:51
holsteinsomeHuman: how about http://askubuntu.com/questions/104755/how-to-check-internet-speed-via-terminal04:51
marlencrabapplenvidia 338 holdstein04:51
holsteinMaxSan: if you have no x, address that first04:51
dw1next-generation: yeah04:51
holsteinMaxSan: i might start there. you can type "hol" and hit tab to auto-complete my nick04:52
BeldarMaxSan, Just make sure you keep the built unity from source in your info.04:52
dw1next-generation: boot it and install it... try it04:52
next-generationmust I do that make once, or running the later even without usb stick04:52
marlencrabappletrust me, i know what using foss gpu drivers feels like lol04:52
holsteinMaxSan: sorry04:52
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holsteinmarlencrabapple: i might start there. you can type "hol" and hit tab to auto-complete my nick04:52
holsteinmarlencrabapple: ?04:52
next-generation??04:52
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holsteinmarlencrabapple: you should be willing to troubleshoot, by testing with the open driver04:52
user_____Ok I've got a quick question again rearding load balancers, anyone up?04:53
marlencrabapplei am troubleshooting04:53
holsteinmarlencrabapple: then, consider removing the proprietary driver from the euqation04:53
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dw1user_____: sounds like third party software.. #linux or #httpd maybe ?04:53
MaxSanfrom terminal how do i rerun my build then?04:53
holsteinMaxSan: build of what?04:53
MaxSanor just make it default so it always runs04:53
MaxSanunity04:53
marlencrabapplei'd have to wait at least 24 hours for the problem to reoccur04:53
MaxSanwith my one line code change to remove whitelists04:54
holsteinmarlencrabapple: then, you may have a challenge determining this.. but, thats where i would look04:54
holsteinmarlencrabapple: you can always just use a live CD for a period of time, and see if it happens04:54
Beldar!who | MaxSan rather important04:54
ubottuMaxSan rather important: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)04:54
MaxSanholstein: my build of unity.04:55
user_____Ah nope. Here's the hypothetical scenario: I have a main server machine with ubuntu installed. I have another backup server machine which is identical to the main server. I need the requests made to the main server be redirected to the backup server if the main server is down. jitsusama suggested the use of Load Balancers. Just got a question related to it.04:55
holsteinMaxSan: use the default build of unity, in the official repos04:55
holsteinMaxSan: otherwise, you need to ask whoever is maintaining your version for support04:55
MaxSannobody is fixing this lol04:56
MaxSani changed a single line04:56
user_____Anyone has an idea?04:56
tnkWhat is going wrong with my upgrade to 14.04? I am getting an error read-only file system.. and dpkg error.. and then it crashed.. after a few packages couldn't install..04:56
holsteinMaxSan: right.. thats why i suggested changing it back.. undo what you did that broke your system04:56
next-generationmust I do that make once, or running the later even without usb stick04:56
holsteintnk: hope its not a hard drive failure.. whats the system doing now?04:57
MaxSani know what I done has not caused the issue im around 98.5% sure04:57
MaxSanits a config thing with unity being confused on what its loading04:57
tnkholstein, i'm still in the 13.10 initial session..04:57
MaxSanand bails out04:57
dw1 user_____, ubuntu doesnt come with anything like that that im aware of. therefore third party or general #linux04:57
MaxSani want to reset it basically04:57
MaxSanholstein:04:57
MaxSan^^04:57
next-generation^^04:57
holsteinMaxSan: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html04:57
holsteinnext-generation: you can install virtualbox guest additions from the repo. no usb or iso needed04:58
dw1user_____: or google, load balance ubuntu ;)04:58
tnkholstein, i tried dpkg --configure -a but it went error unable to access dpkg status area.. read only file system..04:59
tnkholstein, what should i do to get the upgrade to continue.. ?04:59
euryalehi holstein :)04:59
next-generationI do not know how that works04:59
holsteineuryale: o/04:59
tnkthese were the two files which first failed, before crashing the upgrade.. Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux1_2.2.2-1_i386.deb'04:59
tnkCould not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_1%3a8.31-2ubuntu2_i386.deb'04:59
holsteinnext-generation: try it04:59
user_____Ah, load balancer as in not a Ubuntu thingy, just need some high level advice :)05:00
euryalewhat amd driver do u recommend in ubuntu 14.04?05:00
holsteinnext-generation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox has a couple ways05:00
holsteineuryale: the open one, then the proprietary one if needed05:00
user_____Urgent here, no worries, I'm trying the general #linux as well.05:00
chipotleif i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?05:00
dw1user_____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17468/network-load-balancing-with-network-manager05:01
euryaleuhm where do i locate that? im kinda blank today.05:01
holsteineuryale: should be running by default05:01
elgruntoxhey yall, im trying to get transmission-daemon and its webinterface running but I keep running into permission denied errors when adding anything to download, googled and followed all the guides and i have proper permissions setup but i still get the error, anyone run into this before?05:01
tnkholstein, what do you think?05:01
euryaleok.05:01
holsteintnk: i mean, personally, i just fresh install after testing the hard drive05:02
euryaleim wondering, when i was running the live usb, the performance was better than now installed.05:02
holsteintnk: otherwise, i would just address the issues in order.. the read-only filesystem error, or whatever it takes05:02
tnkholstein, but what about all the programs and setup configs and everything i've established with this box?? wouldn't i have to do it all over again?05:02
dw1user_____: its a very niche issue so prob no experts here05:02
tnkholstein, what is the error with the readonly? why's it doing that? why'd those two p ackages fail first?05:03
holsteintnk: sometimes i consider that setup and reconfig easier, and the files need be backed up regardless,.. since that drive *will* fail. they all do05:03
tnkholstein, didn't understand that.. ??05:03
holsteintnk: i mean, a resintall takes about 8 minutes.. i might fight with that error for hours05:04
next-generationI'll try it first with a USB stick05:04
holsteintnk: otherwise, just take them in order05:04
holsteintnk: what exact errors and when.. from what..05:04
tnkCould not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_1%3a8.31-2ubuntu2_i386.deb'05:04
holsteinhttp://askubuntu.com/questions/287021/how-to-fix-read-only-file-system-error-when-i-run-something-as-sudo-and-try-to for example05:04
holsteintnk: see if "sudo apt-get update" completes without error05:04
shiroxI'm getting a lot of error messages, what should I do?05:05
rundll32 what is the name of the python runtime?05:05
user_____hmm05:05
holsteintnk: try the server upgrade from http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/ and address errors05:05
trepidoHi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work05:05
folkiei'm using Ubuntu GNOME, and i noticed there are no longer icons by default on the desktop. how do i get them back? id like my desktop files to appear on top of the wallpaper.05:05
dw1rundll32: python05:05
tnkapt-get update failed a bunch of fetches05:06
shiroxrundll32: sudo apt-get install python I think05:06
someHumanholstein: Thanks!05:06
Beldarfolkie, There is a gnome-tweak tool, this allows additions and changes in the desktop.05:07
folkiethanks05:07
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tnkholstein, it gives error.. sudo unable to open var/lib/sudo.. read-only..05:08
holsteintnk: then, try a repair for the read-only file system05:08
tnkhow?05:08
holsteintnk: i already suggested http://askubuntu.com/questions/287021/how-to-fix-read-only-file-system-error-when-i-run-something-as-sudo-and-try-to05:08
holsteintnk: or, reinstallation05:08
holsteintnk: after testing the hard drive05:08
shiroxwhen I upgraded to 14.04, it stopped in the middle with an error message and said that it'll revert the process. But instead, it quit the installation with "successfully installed". I suppose I have a half-updated system now. (Maybe I don't). What should I do?05:09
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clue_hubottu, siri insulted you05:09
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tnkholstein, ok, i guess i have to reboot then.. and either use live cd.. or see if apt-get update/ or dpkg configure works from ttyl2.. or something..05:10
user_____Hi, how could I redirect the client requests to the backup server if the main server goes down?05:10
Beldarshirox, What was the original error?05:10
holsteintnk: tty or no, you need to address why sudo is broken, if it is, and get a few commands to complete05:10
clue_hhave the website point to both ip addresses05:11
holsteintnk: i would run "sudo apt-get upate" and search for any errors in a web browser and fix those.. then, the server upgrade proceedure commands, and do the same05:11
JanuszPLHello. Which licence should I use for my software to make it available both for open and closed source projects? GNU is limited to open source only.05:11
user_____clue, does it mean all the requests come through a website?05:11
jeshwanthHello, can anybody tell me why /sbin/hotplug is not there in Ubuntu?05:12
shiroxBeldar: I don't know :s. But I keep getting this error message from apt-get update etc: http://pastebin.com/1D6TzFiG05:12
jeshwanthOr which hotplug tool ubuntu uses?05:13
shiroxBeldar: the original error said something about xorg similar to that05:13
Beldarshirox, The full apt-get update would help05:13
next-generationI no longer look through, linux is very demanding05:13
shiroxBeldar: full apt-get update, what's that?05:13
holsteinshirox: you add a ppa? the xorg edgers one?05:13
holsteinshirox: the full output from the command05:14
holsteinshirox: and, the output you are not recalling, and didnt document05:14
Beldarshirox, You posted some errors from a apt-get update right? lets see the whole text05:14
shiroxk05:15
next-generation:305:15
shiroxdo you mean this? http://pastebin.com/Abc84H4i05:16
Beldarshirox, pastebin all the text from a sudo apt-get update05:18
shiroxk05:18
shiroxhttp://pastebin.com/vZhGCiGd05:21
shiroxno error message there though05:22
chipotleif i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?05:22
next-generationvirtualbox not working :(05:23
shiroxBeldar, holstein and here's the output of apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.com/sYwvheKu05:24
holsteinshirox: apt-get dist-upgrade05:24
holsteinshirox: did you add ppas?05:24
shiroxhmm.. what do you mean? I have some unofficial ppa's yes05:24
shiroxsuch as wine05:25
shiroxapt-get dist-upgrade gave me a similar error to taht of the last link I posted05:25
linuxuz3roh 14.04 is out05:25
holsteinshirox: i didnt offer it as a fix.. its just what you should be using05:25
linuxuz3rcool05:25
Beldarshirox, pastebin the output if this command.  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}05:25
holsteinshirox: as a fix, try "sudo apt-get -f install"05:25
holsteinshirox: did you add PPA's?05:26
shiroxholstein: same error.  Yes, I've added PPA's05:26
holsteinshirox: if you did, purge them, and try and get back to using stock ubuntu properly configured, and go from there05:26
shiroxBeldar: coming05:26
holsteinshirox: looks like you may have some mixed sources, which could be causing your frustrations05:26
shiroxwhen they are purged, what do I do then?05:26
holsteinshirox: you do *whatever* it takes to get "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to complete without error05:27
shiroxalright, thanks for the help :)05:27
emmeteaso i installed 14.04 on my win 8 64bit machine. it installed fine, i booted to windows to get some files, and my computer rebooted and now grub2 will not recognize the windows loader. ubuntu reads the information, however not being able to get into the windows drive is not an option.05:27
Beldarshirox, holstein is on the right track, I'm just checking what's in the sources.list and sources.list.d     the .d is the ppa's.05:28
holstein!uefi ? emmetea05:28
ubottuholstein: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:28
holstein!uefi > emmetea05:29
ubottuemmetea, please see my private message05:29
holsteinmaybe its related to secure boot, and something windows is expecting that is not in place anymore, emmetea05:29
holsteinemmetea: did windows *ever* boot with grub?05:29
emmeteathank you. i'll check that out, certain explains why it booted once fine05:29
emmeteayes, once, right after the install05:29
subhojit777Hello all, I have Ubuntu 13.10. I want to disable touchpad while typing, I tried the system setting "Disable touchpad while typing", but it does not work. I also tried syndaemon, but it locks the touchpad, I can only control the pointer and cannot scroll or tap using touchpad (http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html), any idea?05:31
shahanHello I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and was wondering what typed of "antivirus" or "firewall" type stuff I should generally be using when downloading, surfing or torrenting?05:32
shahanother than gufw05:32
Beldar!av > shahan05:32
ubottushahan, please see my private message05:32
johndropperok guys i really screwed up05:33
shahanhow do I refresh unity in 14.04?05:37
shahanthe scaling option is being weird, the one for window controls, i like it a lot, but it won't change after the first time i set it05:37
holsteinshahan: try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html05:38
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shiroxis upgrading the system while in xfce a problem?05:42
shahanholstein: thanks05:43
lagboxstill can't get this chromium issue worked out05:44
Jammerx2So I managed to the upgrade finished, it seems to have corrupted some of my user config files though (couldn't even login at first). I reset the .Xauthority and .config/dconf/user, and can now login but any changes I make to settings are instantly reverted.05:45
shiroxholstein: I don't have that error message any more. But how do I make sure I've updated the system fully to 14.04?05:47
shiroxapt-get upgrade does nothing05:47
gryshirox: thanks, i now know it's out05:48
johndropperjust delete your life05:48
johndroppersudo apt-get update05:48
johndroppersudo apt-get upgrade05:48
gryshirox: "lsb_release -a" in terminal will show you your version05:48
BlackWebIf I want my system to execute a script every bootup is /etc/rc.local the place to specify it??05:48
gryjohndropper: sorry, i can't believe you after you asked to delete life and gave wrong advice05:48
gryjohndropper: apt-get upgrade alone doesn't update to a next major release, iirc05:49
shiroxit says 14.04 trusty .. but as I understood it, my version upgrade canceled in the middle05:49
holsteinshirox: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should bring you current05:49
gryholstein: better :-)05:49
johndroppersudo apt-get upgrade life05:50
shirox"0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." <--- I don't believe it :p05:50
holsteingry: :)05:50
johndropperjk05:50
shiroxI did the holstein thing.05:50
holsteinshirox: check your pakages manually, if you like05:50
shiroxshould I take its word for it when it says "0 not upgraded"?05:51
holsteinshirox: not if you dont want to.. check manually if you swant05:51
holsteinwant*05:51
shiroxwhat am I looking for?05:51
shiroxwhat's the current xorg version?05:51
holsteinshirox: whatever you think isnt done05:52
holstein!info xorg05:52
ubottuxorg (source: xorg): X.Org X Window System. In component main, is optional. Version 1:7.7+1ubuntu8 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 80 kB05:52
gryshirox: yes, then do what johndropper said to upgrade packages within that release05:52
holstein!info firefox05:52
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 28.0+build2-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 24500 kB, installed size 59477 kB05:52
Jammerx2holstein, any suggestions with my issue? I don't notice any permissions issues05:52
holsteinJammerx2: remind me05:53
Jammerx2"So I managed to the upgrade finished, it seems to have corrupted some of my user config files though (couldn't even login at first). I reset the .Xauthority and .config/dconf/user, and can now login but any changes I make to settings are instantly reverted."05:53
Jammerx2Using the guest account works fine, so I feel like it has to be a permissions issue or some file is corrupted in my home directory, but I can't find anything that seems wrong05:53
freelockhowdy... having some upgrade troubles, 12.04 to 14.04 via the upgrade manager...05:54
freelockfirst issue: "hwmatch command not found" when grub loads, then file not found05:54
llutzJammerx2: find ~ -not -uid <your-uid-here>                     your uid most likely = 100005:54
shiroxhow do I know what xorg version I have05:55
freelockUbuntu splash screen comes up for a bit, then it goes to a black screen with a blinking underscore, and nothing else happens05:55
llutzshirox: apt-cache policy xorg05:55
freelockif I switch to a vt, I can "sudo start lightdm" and get into X, but when the screen saver comes on, everythin glocks up again... ?05:55
holsteinJammerx2: just blow them all out.. just move them, and try the user05:55
Jammerx2Ah, ~/.cach/dconf05:55
Jammerx2cache*05:55
shiroxty05:55
chipotleif i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?05:58
shiroxchipotle: by default, yes.05:59
chipotleby default yes what?05:59
shiroxchipotle: it may or may not ask you to replace your current config file. But the installation comes with a configuration file that will replace the current one.06:00
PupUsereb2f67c06:00
chipotleshirox: so how do i install fpm on a server that doesn't have it, without downtime?06:00
shiroxchipotle: sorry, I misunderstood the question (thought you mean whether it's going to override your configuration files)06:00
shiroxwhat's fpm?06:01
chipotleshirox: no, my question is: how do i instlal fpm on a server that's already got php fastcgi installed06:01
chipotlePHP-FPM (FastCGI Process Manager) is an alternative PHP FastCGI implementation with some additional features useful for sites of any size, especially busier sites.06:01
shiroxidk \o/06:02
Hafizhello everyone, how i install driver intel for ubuntu 14.04....????06:03
Jammerx2Well that seems to have fixed it, sucks that I had to reset my dconf settings but at least those shouldn't be too hard to fix06:03
llutzJammerx2: get old settings back from backup (you made one before, didn't you?)06:05
holsteinHafiz: should be required to06:06
Guest897643Where can I find an Ubuntu software IRC channel?06:06
Jammerx2Yeah, but it seems to have the same problem (unity doesn't start), I think something must have happened after I last logged off before the backup06:06
Jammerx2Not a huge issue though06:06
Jammerx2As long as all my application settings are fine (which they are) it doesn't matter06:07
PupUsereb2f67Can someone help me with audio issues in Avidemux?06:09
PupUsereb2f67I get no sound on playback and going into Preferences > Audio, the only output device is "Dummy".06:11
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: nothing for pulse?06:11
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: have you tried pavucontrol?06:11
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: do you have audio otherwise?06:11
PupUsereb2f67Every other app has sound. I don't use Pulseaudio.06:13
PupUsereb2f67just ALSA06:13
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: thats not default. what did you do to deviate from default?06:13
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: could be, avidemux reqires pulse these days..06:14
PupUsereb2f67Pulseaudio kept having choppy playback.06:14
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: "dummy" is all you see for output?06:14
PupUsereb2f67Yes.06:14
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: choppy may be preferred06:14
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BlueSharkHow can I get the internet usage for the past month on Ubuntu?06:16
PupUsereb2f67I guess I'll try reinstalling it. Sound is an absolute must with video editing.06:17
lotuspsychjesomeone tested ubuntu-tweak yet on trusty?06:17
holsteinBlueShark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMonitorInternetTrafficTotals06:17
holsteinBlueShark: likely have to plan for the future now06:17
holsteinBlueShark: some routers keep track06:17
PupUsereb2f67Is unity any faster on Ubuntu 14.04 than 13.10?06:18
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: try it and see06:18
Beldarlotuspsychje, The stable has not released a trusty yet06:18
lotuspsychjeBeldar: tnx06:18
BlueSharkvnstat looks cool but it says it doesn't have enough data yet.06:18
BlueSharkSo, there's no way I can get the usage statistics for the past month, right?06:19
lotuspsychjePupUsereb2f67: all the trusty reviews say 14.04 is very fast06:19
holsteinBlueShark: you can look at your gateway/router06:19
BlueSharkholstein: how do you mean?06:19
holsteinBlueShark: otherwise, you will implement something now06:19
PupUsereb2f67I just want to know before I install. Ubuntu 13.10 lagged like hell on my netbook, so I switched to Xubuntu.06:19
lotuspsychjePupUsereb2f67: check the omgubuntu website for the video review06:19
Guest786535I'm new to Ubuntu.. How many Ubuntu viruses are there?06:19
holsteinBlueShark: your router.. some routers keep track. so, maybe your router has a log of your data usage06:19
lotuspsychje!virus | Guest78653506:20
ubottuGuest786535: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to Windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus06:20
Jammerx2BlueShark, ISPs also often have a way to check usage, but if there's no way via that or the router than you're out of luck.06:20
Jammerx2then*06:20
lotuspsychjePupUsereb2f67: also depends on your hardware, i would try trusty clean install06:21
PupUsereb2f67Guest786535: Almost none. You can get some Windows viruses in Wine (never happened to me), but it will only affect your Wine prefix.06:21
PupUsereb2f67Is there a Unity 2d or a way to disable compositing in 14.04?06:22
dw1Could a virus not easily get in by installing an app (as root) using a 3rd-party PPA or infected program?06:23
Guest786535I was just wondering because software center told me to only install things from trusted sources.06:23
lotuspsychje!ppa | dw106:23
ubottudw1: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge06:23
Jammerx2I believe that was discontinued PupUsereb2f67, might be better off with xfce06:23
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: you can use something like xfce06:23
lotuspsychjedw1: there is always a danger, for untrusted software, rootkits, malicious banners in browsers06:24
qinWhere would you look for some info about volume of donations from 14.04 download page?06:24
PupUsereb2f67holstein: That's what I'm using right now, but I like Unity better.06:24
lotuspsychjedw1: but there are security tools to tighten your system06:24
dw1lotuspsychje: yeah.  personally i haven't used anti-virus for at least a decade and haven't been infected because I don't click on stupid stuff or install obscure programs :)06:25
holsteinPupUsereb2f67: it requires 3d06:25
lotuspsychje!security | dw106:25
ubottudw1: Security Updates are dealt with here:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Security - See also !root, !firewall and !server06:25
PupUsereb2f67Guest786535: Theoretically, yes, but getting a virus is just incredibly rare. I've installed tons of ppa programs and never got malware.06:25
holsteinyou can have issues with malware while running antivirus programs, and using them improperly06:25
dw1yeah the problem with anti-virus programs is the virus has to be first detected before the program can find it.. so if you're up against any good programmer, you won't detect it06:26
lotuspsychjedw1: i like snort, rkhunter,nmap and complex passwords06:26
Jammerx2lotuspsychje, there is definitely always a danger but you are significantly less likely to run into a virus on Linux and accidentally running it06:26
someHumanHello!06:26
someHumanHow do I take a screenshot?06:26
dw1PrintScreen06:27
qinsomeHuman: PrtSc key06:27
someHumanVia keyboard shortcut?06:27
PupUsereb2f67It's such a shame. Unity's interface is designed to be good on netbooks, but it's so resource hungry that it lags like hell.06:27
someHumanqin: Then?06:27
lotuspsychjeJammerx2: thats true its more secure, but on not-updated browser i would be still carefull fro pcbanking malicious banners06:27
dw1How do I configure the screenshot program to automatically save the screenshot instead of popping up the dialog? :-/06:27
qinsomeHuman: You should have some silly effect and info than file was saved06:27
PupUsereb2f67Does Hand of Thief still exist?06:27
someHumanqin: I don't get any.06:27
lotuspsychjedw1: did you try kazam?06:27
dw1dconf on gnome-screensaver entries didn't do anything :(06:28
dw1lotuspsychje: no.. it used to work how  I want it in 13.10 but changed on upgrade06:28
lotuspsychje!info kazam | dw106:28
ubottudw1: kazam (source: kazam): screencast and screenshot application created with design in mind. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.4.4-1 (trusty), package size 732 kB, installed size 2052 kB06:28
lotuspsychjevery handy06:28
lotuspsychjealso lightweight to record desktop to video06:28
Jammerx2lotuspsychje, I wouldn't consider blocking malicious sites to be necessarily part of an antivirus, I'm sure there's addons for browsers to cover that06:29
someHumanI am stuck with this, trying to set up my HP wireless printer. http://imgur.com/LNkHRWE06:29
someHumanI was stuck in that step.06:29
PupUsereb2f67I've found recordmydesktop to be less intrusive.06:29
dw1yeah, lot of third party apps out there but i just want it to save without the dialog like it was in 13.1006:29
lotuspsychjesomeHuman: did you install hplip tools?06:30
dw1oh i meant dconf on gnome-screenshot, not screensaver06:30
someHumanlotuspsychje: That's what am doing lol, then I gut stuck.06:30
lotuspsychjesomeHuman: what happens when you press connect?06:30
someHumanlotuspsychje: I am literally stuck lol, it doesn't do anything. I tjust shows me this loading mouse pointer whenever I hover over the window.06:31
lotuspsychjesomeHuman: maybe start the hplip from a terminal, to see errors?06:32
lotuspsychjebbl06:33
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MultbrelchHi all: I have 14.04 and a HP EliteBook 2170p - I cannot change the brightness of the screen06:37
MultbrelchAny ideas?06:38
clue_hMultbrelch, there is a way, which may work, in the grub menu config, appending a line to say backlight=vendor, google that term06:39
Multbrelchk06:39
Multbrelchbizarr since under 13.30 it worked out of the box06:39
clue_hMultbrelch, it happened with my intel06:39
koltomg06:40
kolto_o06:40
kolthelloo?06:40
MultbrelchQ: There are not many updates (sudo apt-get update/dist-upgrade) in 14.04, is that normal?06:42
tsimpsonMultbrelch: it's been out for all of two days, so there's not going to be many updates yet06:44
asdfguesthallo, how can i hog all the bandwidth in shortest time possible06:47
asdfguestping with big packets and -f ?06:47
someHumanAh06:49
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qinasdfguest: usually it is number/volume/quality of connections factor, but #networking will certainly help you. Why would you want to hog it?06:49
someHumanSo that's why am stuck with HP wireless printer setup haha! I removed the USB cable, I thought it wasn't needed because I was I thought it only needed wifi haha!06:49
someHumanOh well lol!06:49
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asdfguestbecause someone uses it extensively, and i wish to hog it from the start to teach a lesson for a whole month06:50
euryale@holstein. What is the proper way of installing amd drivers?06:52
qinasdfguest: if you have access to router, there is crude macfilter, if not  - ask admin. for wi-fi arp poisoning should be better, wont kill your own connection but disconnect unwanted peer.06:52
henrylinuxhi06:57
henrylinuxon ubuntu gnome, how can I change the ... "depth" of the dash search?06:57
henrylinuxit doesn't find all files :/06:57
qinhenrylinux: not all files in your /home/ ?06:59
volkanHey, I changed DNS servers but after restart they were gone. How can I prevent this?06:59
llutzvolkan: how did you change them?06:59
volkanllutz, via resolv.conf07:00
llutzvolkan: edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  or base and add them there, run sudo resolvconf -u after07:00
henrylinuxqin, yes, they are07:01
henrylinuxqin,  just not only in the typical xorg-user-dirs, I've created some folders of my own. or is that a problem?07:01
qinhenrylinux: where are xorg-user-dirs ?07:03
volkanllutz, Thanks, I'll try. What is the difference between /etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ?07:03
henrylinuxqin, in my home of course... :)07:03
llutzvolkan: /etc/resolv.conf will be created from those files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/*07:03
qinhenrylinux: do "locate" see them?07:03
henrylinuxqin, yup it did07:04
volkanllutz, OK, thanks!07:04
henrylinuxqin,  wait no I didn't try that. I used gnome-search-tool and that saw them07:04
volkanAny suggestion for torrent?07:07
qin64bit07:07
majodhi. can anyone compare notebook battery life on 14.04 vs windows 8?07:09
qinmajod: Since Linux kernel is monolithic, unlike Windows hybrid's one, it will drain battery faster, comfort yourself that Ubuntu is fairly more stable.07:11
someHumanUbuntu One said I can no longer use it or backuo.07:11
someHumanbackup*07:11
someHumanWhat else can I use for backup?07:11
eutheriadoes anyone use eclipse? i was wondering do you get more screen real estate with the menu being in the titlebar?07:11
eutheriasomeHuman: dropbox?07:11
andyfiedsomeHuman: google drive, dropbox07:11
someHumaneutheria: Thanks!07:11
qinsomeHuman: Google Drive, Dropbox, many more, or own box with unison or rsync...07:11
eutheriais google drive easy to get working?07:12
eutheriai've seen some over the top ways to get it working07:12
mkeerJust installed Ubuntu (Gnome). Now I can't boot onto Windows (no, I did not overwrite my windows partition)07:12
andyfiedeutheria: not sure if drive is that easy to get integrated with ubuntu, dropbox works very well though.07:12
henrylinuxdoes anyone here have two Windows/Super keys on his/her keyboard and they working ootb on UBuntu?07:13
qineutheria: grive is fairly simple.07:13
trepidoHi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work07:13
eutheriaandyfied: for me too07:13
mkeerit says something like EndEntire ...  error cannot load image07:13
henrylinux(asking baout vanilla ubuntu)07:13
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eutheriai like dropbox a lot, so quick to get working07:13
eutheriai am debating about going back to ubuntu07:15
rwwok07:16
andyfiedeutheria: dropbox does work great on ubuntu, i had no prblems, installed quick and worked immediately, plus works fine on android (does need an additional app to auto-sync) the only issue is privacy, but you can always encrypt things into archives07:18
henrylinuxspideroak!07:19
andyfiedeutheria: for gdrive, there is syncdrive which looks easy enough to install. i've not tried it myself, but i may do later today07:21
eutheriaandyfied: i wouldn't use any cloud service for a backup, i would normally use a local nas07:21
eutheriaandyfied: it was someone else who asked the question, i was just commenting on that gdrive isn't easy to get working07:22
madrazrIs there anyone here using a 4K display with Ubuntu? perhaps Seiki for regular computer usage like programming/reading?07:22
madrazrand has anybody been able to find a font that is not terrible?07:22
madrazrjaggy etc?07:22
madrazr*jagged07:23
andyfiedeutheria: good plan, local backups are quicker but cloud is obviously good for high availiablity. i have noticed syncdrive is no longer supported :/ nevermind! good luck07:23
elroywhat is the consensus of the channel on moving from 13.10 to 14.04, upgrade or fresh install?07:25
cfhowlettelroy freshest is bestest07:26
henrylinuxgo to arch linux for the real stuff07:26
cfhowlett!behelpful|henrylinux07:26
ubottuhenrylinux: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.07:26
eutheriaandyfied: well you can get a lot of those nas devices to push backups to a cloud provider07:26
Tex_Nickelroy: a clean install is preferable ;)07:26
elroyjust so tempting to click that Upgrade pop up button :)07:27
shahanwhere in the file system are programs like vlc or qbitorrent installed? like when i say "qbitorrent" into the terminal and it runs, what and where is it linking to?07:27
henrylinuxdoes anyone here have two Windows keys and can use them ootb on vanilla Ubuntu 14.04?07:27
llutzshahan: "dpkg -L packagename" shows you07:28
henrylinuxnot having synapse on Xubuntu 14.01 makes me want to migrate07:28
cfhowletthenrylinux don't let us stop you, but please keep the off-topic commentary to yourself or the off-topic channel07:28
Loshkielroy: if you're prepared to do a full install, then you've nothing to lose by clicking upgrade. What's the worst that can happen?07:29
henrylinuxno I'm serious, I didn't manage to get the right one working on UBuntu Gnome.07:29
shahanllutz: thanks07:29
henrylinuxI just don't want to use the left super key to open the dash / search window, whether it's in unity or gnome07:30
shahanwhat would be the command to search my entire file system for a file with "some string" in it?  'find "string" /"  with '/' being root directory?07:30
henrylinuxcfhowlett,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/450022/07:30
shahanfind and grep07:30
llutzshahan: sudo grep -ri "some string" /07:31
shahanllutz: thanks you rule07:31
elroyUbuntu Gnome seems like a rising star07:31
elroyIf I was gonna switch someone from XP, that would be my choice07:32
chadwinIM LOVING UBUNTU 14.04......yayyyyyyyyyy....lol07:35
Alex_____Is anyone there???07:36
dasraspberrichadwin: so aweesomeeee.....!!07:36
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cfhowlettAlex_____ ask your support question07:36
Alex_____I am new to ubuntu.I am using ubuntu12.04.After an updation I can't use my wifi .07:37
Alex_____Please help!!07:37
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sloopdroopI have to restart network-manager after suspend/hibernate but aint really sure how to "debug". Any pointers?07:40
sloopdroopthe applet does just show "Enable Networking", pressing it does absolutely nothing.07:41
sloopdroopnm-cli commands does nothing.07:41
sloopdroopWow, it is quite here today...07:42
Alex_____i have tried to update and upgrade and then install linux-firmware as i read on net. but this too is causing error.07:42
sloopdroops/te/et/07:42
sloopdroopAlex_____: what is the error message?07:43
Alex_____hey i can send a screen shot.but how do i send it to you???07:44
Jammerx2imgur.com07:44
cfhowlett!paste| Alex_____07:44
ubottuAlex_____: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:44
AndroUserI reset ccsm prefs to get compiz CPU usage down, but got the unity launcher and everything disabled. Even if I launch ccsm, it appears half off screen due to my dual moniyor setup. I cant figure out how to move it. Ehat sgould I do?07:48
Alex_____http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=30643807:49
gshmusystem can't open http://w.qq.com07:50
Alex_____hello did you get it???07:50
gshmuYeastday it's ok07:51
Alex_____what should i do?? please guide me!!07:52
henrylinuxAndroUser, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html07:52
sloopdroopAlex_____: it is just complaining about not having your language completely installed.07:52
sloopdroopAlex_____: it might be more problems further down07:53
gshmuif any one can open http://w.qq.com07:53
Alex_____okay hold on i will upload more!07:53
cfhowlettgshmu qq is at www.qq.com07:53
sloopdroopAlex_____: I would recommend you to go to Settings (the application) -> Language support, and install complete support for your language.07:54
gshmucfhowlett: w.qq.com it's smartQQ07:54
gshmucfhowlett:  yeastday it's ok07:54
cfhowlettgshmu http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/w.qq.com07:55
AndroUserHenrylinux: Let ne try the sexobd method.07:55
gshmucfhowlett: 404 me too07:55
henrylinuxAndroUser, huh?07:56
cfhowlettgshmu so - 404 confirmed07:56
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gshmucfhowlett: how to  using downforeveryoneorjustme.com/w.qq.com07:58
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gshmucfhowlett: thanks07:58
cfhowlettgshmu downforeveryoneorjustme.com    is used to verify if any website is ... down for everyone or just you07:58
gshmucfhowlett: I got it after try google.com07:59
gshmucfhowlett: thanks a lot07:59
lalalalalalaaccount-plugin-irc does not work properly08:00
riverloopHello, anyone over here?08:09
lalalalalalajust ask riverloop08:09
riverloopI'm using trusty and there are no window borders for LibreOffice Writer.08:09
riverloophttp://s3.postimg.org/5gv9i1f0z/Screenshot_from_2014_04_17_21_58_20.png08:10
riverloopI cannot use the minimize, maximize and close buttons, because of this.08:10
riverloopAnnoying. Anybody experiencing the same issue and has a fix?08:10
lagboxfor the meanwhile .. alt+right click08:10
riverloopBtw, Calc and Impress don't seem to be affected.08:10
lalalalalalariverloop: i am facing the same problem with firefox08:11
rigohi. i use 14.04 it came with kernel 3.13 but there is already 3.14.1 when will this 3.14 be available officially? (i mean with apt-get dist-upgrade)08:11
riverlooplalalalala: firefox is okay for me.08:11
lagboxand alt+left-click to move the window08:11
lalalalalalarigo: canonical provides patches for the 3.1308:13
rigoim just not sure how this works. it clear it must be tested etc etc. but how long? i mean v3.13-trusty/ was releasee 20-Jan-2014 04:02 and 3.14 non rc is 31-Mar-2014 05:2008:14
rigostupid keyboard i cant type sry.08:14
penthDarn, I just found an annoyance in 12.04. If I doubleclick a shell script that I'd given a desktop icon, it only opens it for editing in gedit, rather than asking whether I want to run it. (and yes, the executable bits are still set)08:15
penths/12.04/14.04/08:15
penthWhen I had it in 12.04 it gave me the option08:16
lalalalalalapenth: open Files then edit > preferences and behaviour tab and check executable text file to ask it's time08:17
nullbyte_skype and 14.04 can't be installed now08:18
penthThere it is, perfect. Thanks, lalalalalala08:18
nullbyte_maybe lateR?08:18
andyfiednullbyte_: i have skype running08:19
Meerkatwhy is #ubuntu+1 invite-only all of a sudden? common practice after release?08:19
cfhowlettnullbyte_ http://www.tecmint.com/install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/08:19
cfhowlettnullbyte_ should still work in 14.0408:19
nullbyte_andyfied: skype4?08:20
riverloopHy, I've google chrome installed and the menu buttons are on the right. How can I bring them back to left just like every other application?08:21
penthArgh, and gnome-terminal has an extra menu line rather than playing nicely08:21
llutzpenth: --hide-menubar08:22
penthllutz, that will make it appear in the top again?08:22
llutzpenth: no, it will hide it completly08:23
andyfiednullbyte_: 4.2.0.11, though i guess i didn't install it on 14.04 as i upgraded from 13.1008:24
penthwell, not like I ever used the menu. I've been using the hud to retitle tabs :)08:25
llutzpenth: you can always rightclick somewhere into the terminal and activate "show menubar" again08:27
penthty for letting me grouse and adjust. Only 9 years running ubuntu, you'd think I'd be used to inexplicable surprises by now :)08:27
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lysobitHow do I disable the guest account in Ubuntu 14.04?08:32
clue_hlysobit, edit 50-ubuntu.conf in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d by adding allow-guest=false, but check google first see if syntax is right08:34
clue_hpretty sure that it is, allow-guest=false08:35
llutzclue_h: it is08:35
hero1900hi i have wierd issue i have two hard disks one is mssd and the other is sata when i attack the sata the system will give me black screen with no cursor and the laptop will heat up any suggestion??08:35
clue_hattack?08:36
hero1900i try to do grub reinstallation it worked for a while then i got this issue again and again08:36
hero1900??08:36
hero1900attach08:36
hero1900wrong typo08:36
hero1900:)08:36
hero1900i installed ubuntu on the mssd and the bootloader also on it the sata is just ffor media08:38
hero1900but the system will not boot if the sata attached08:38
hero1900if i remove it the system will boot normally08:38
clue_hhero1900, it could be a bunch of bad sectors or something on the hardware level like that, can you check the health of this sata disk08:41
lysobitclue_h: thanks08:42
hero1900yes and all good and i also attache other sata and i have the same issue08:42
bernard!countdown08:42
ubottuPlease remember that #ubuntu, #kubuntu, #xubuntu, #edubuntu, and #lubuntu are support channels. To countdown to !Trusty release and then party once it happens, join #ubuntu-release-party - For in-person parties, see  http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/global/2702/08:42
hero1900also if i remove mssd the system will boot08:43
hero1900so the issue is when they are both attached08:43
bluezoneVertical sync issues in vlc08:47
slawutaHi, I have a strange problem with window borders in Ubuntu 12.0408:47
bluezonewhat is it08:47
slawutaThe system used to work without any issues. No updates were made because this hardware is terribly old.08:48
slawutaWindow borders are gone, windows are impossible to move even when you hold down alt.08:48
bluezoneodd08:48
slawutaWhat could be the problem ? What's responsible for window borders in Xubuntu/XFCE ?08:48
bluezonewhich ubuntu is this08:48
slawutaXubuntu 12.0408:49
Lukas1321slawuta, have you got compiz-config installed?08:49
cfhowlettslawuta #xfce might be worth a visit08:49
bluezonecan always try resetting the ui08:49
bluezonetyping unity or whatnot08:49
chyoowhy intelij idea 13.1 community don't support grails framework08:50
slawutalibconfigcompiz present.08:50
matt_hi08:50
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chyooi should do what to make it support it ?08:51
lagboxhttp://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IntelliJIDEA/Grails08:53
slawutaOr maybe it's hardware dying ? HDD falling apart ? How do I check a drive from the command line ?08:53
slawutaMost GUI programs don't work or have problems. Firefox doesn't get past the initial screen, so google doesn't work.08:54
MRezahi08:55
baaastouhello08:58
baaastouhello?09:05
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Dreamanos[Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.6GB, 89.5% free] disk[Total: 228.5GB, 24.6% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a]] ether[NVIDIA Corporation MCP77 Ethernet] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]09:10
bekksDreaman: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?09:11
Dreamanyes nvidia driver not work09:11
Dreaman:)09:11
Dreamanuse free driver :(09:12
asturel_is there some app for ubuntu for instant pastes?09:12
asturel_like wgetpaste09:12
bekksDefine "not work". Does it sit outside and drinks beer with his friend? Which nvidia driver do you use?09:12
bekks!pastebinit | asturel_09:12
ubottuasturel_: pastebinit is the command-line equivalent of !pastebin - Command output, or other text can be redirected to pastebinit, which then reports an URL containing the output - To use pastebinit, install the « pastebinit » package from a package manager - Simple usage: command | pastebinit -b http://paste.ubuntu.com09:12
asturel_but it requires user+pw09:13
eutheriadoes eclipse now work with the global menu system?09:13
asturel_isnt it?09:13
bekksasturel_: No?09:13
bekkseutheria: No.09:13
eutheriaand can i hide the sidebar?09:13
asturel_ok then09:13
bekkseutheria: No.09:13
eutheriabekks: darn, and double darn09:13
Evidenzbekks but you can auto hide it can't you?09:13
eutheriaauto hide is fine09:14
bekksEvidenz: I didnt know that - if you can, thats good :)09:14
eutheriaok single darn09:14
eutheriahaving the global menu for eclipse is a good feature for me, more screen for code the better09:15
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NGC3982Morning. :-)09:20
dungeon_crawleror evening09:23
henry_How do i remove the acpi=off boot option in 14.04?09:27
koksaljoin #ubuntu-uyghurix/09:41
chulisI have the system in spanish but the clock calendar appears in portugue ¿how can i put in spanish as well?09:41
MonkeyDustchulis  system settings > language support09:42
chulisi have lubuntu09:43
opalepatrickHI, am I going to get trouble (particularly with boot manager) if I install 14.04 on a separate partition so I can get it up to speed before switching from 13.10?09:43
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Anniagrub_term_highlight_color not found09:43
AnniaI just updated to 14.04 and grub crashed09:44
AnniaSo I booted from a 12.04 livecd09:44
AnniaWhat should I do09:45
opalepatrickthis looks the part - http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd09:46
opalepatrickAnnia ^^09:46
opalepatrickRead it first though09:46
gshmuopalepatrick: using 12.04 liveCD repair 14.04 grub ???09:47
AnniaI tried mkdir /tmp/drive09:47
Anniasudo mount /dev/sdX1 /tmp/drive09:47
Anniasudo mount --bind /dev /tmp/drive/dev09:47
Anniasudo mount --bind /proc /tmp/drive/proc09:47
Anniasudo mount --bind /sys /tmp/drive/sys09:47
Anniasudo chroot /tmp/drive09:47
unopasteAnnia you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted09:47
papy-juniorbonjour09:48
opalepatrickgshmu, sorry not giving advice just siggesting that it can be repaired. Not knowledgeable enough to do that. But know it is perfectly possible.09:49
bekks!grub2 | Annia09:49
ubottuAnnia: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub209:49
gshmuopalepatrick: LiveCD repair grub it's right09:50
opalepatrickgshmu, I have done it myself a couple of times but never remember the details :-)09:50
AnniaBut it found 3.8.0-1309:52
AnniaIt should found 3.11.x…09:52
AnniaSo when I boot to14.0409:53
AnniaHow should I update grub?09:53
gshmuAnnia: Make a 14.04 LiveCD first09:53
gshmuAnnia: and then repair grub09:55
Gordio# apt-get install uwsgi09:56
Gordio… installing ...09:56
Gordiouwsgi start/running, process 1280109:56
hejuxso many people here.09:56
GordioHow manualy restart this service?09:56
Gordioservice uwsgi don't exist.09:56
bekksGordio: sudo /etc/init.d/uswgi restart09:57
Annia13.0409:58
Gordiols: cannot access /etc/init.d/uwsgi: No such file or directory09:58
bekks!raring | Annia09:58
ubottuAnnia: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring09:58
MonkeyDustGordio  is that a server? if yes: try #ubuntu-server09:59
GordioMonkeyDust: thx.10:00
Annia…the CD is 13.04?10:01
Lostdoes each version of ubuntu have it's own repositories list?10:03
AnniaPerhaps my grub was on dev/sda710:03
Anniabut system on dev/sda 810:04
AnniaI know10:04
ANubHello10:04
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ANubDoes someone know how to block mac addr using ubuntu firewall "ufw"..?10:05
_95A31_Hi guys, I have just installed 14.04 but at first boot I have: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c some idea ?10:08
vltHello. How can I just unmount an USB drive on standard Ubuntu 13.10?10:11
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tracyoneCan someone recommend a theme for unity10:12
MonkeyDust!themes | tracyone start here10:12
ubottutracyone start here: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freecode.com/tags/theme - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy10:12
miguelg_Hello, trying to build a package with dpkg-buildpackage with 8 parallel jobs but only one  job is spawned.10:13
miguelg_Tried with dpkg_buildpackage -j8, setting MAKEFLAGS and even setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=810:13
miguelg_no joy. I'm sure I'm missing something -- help?10:13
clue_hhow many processors?10:13
miguelg_8 logical; 4 physical10:14
AnniaSo how to boot from /dev/sda7?10:14
clue_hhave you tried building with make alone, with the -j param?10:14
AnniaI am on tty6 of 14.0410:15
AnniaIt seems sth wrong with graphics10:15
miguelg_clue_h:  yes; both make- j8 and MAKEFLAGS=-j8 use all cores10:16
rigowhat to do if i have a webcam but its not working. to more be specific the webcam is on /dev/video0 but i.e skype shows only black screen (as a video webchat flash app)10:16
MonkeyDustrigo  does it work with cheese?10:16
rol_andmy server keeps rebooting into recovery mode. i have no idea how to troubleshoot the issue. any advice ?10:16
rigonever heard of it. i install it. but i say 99% it will not work10:17
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bekksrol_and: thats the last saved boot menu entry known to be good. can you boot it into "normal" mode manually?10:18
MonkeyDustrigo  first try it, to exclude that 1%10:18
dw1rigo: just type cheese in terminal, or in apps10:18
rigoinstalling it :)10:18
rol_andbekks:  im trying now, it takes me into runlevel 110:18
bekksrol_and: It tells you why, too.10:18
rol_andbekks:  not able to do notice it.. i'm connected through console to a remote DC10:19
bekksrol_and: you need access to the boot menu.10:19
bekksrol_and: that means: physical access.10:19
rigodamn its hungarian :D well the errormessage is like "there was an error playing video through webcam"10:19
bekksrol_and: or at least a remote console10:20
rol_andbekks:  im connecting to remote console right now..10:20
naxilhello10:21
wiebelsUbuntu 14.04 Home Server on SSD with 2x 1TB Samsung drives; what filesystem would you pick for the RAID drives??10:21
naxili want delete a specific refresh rate (more of 60hz) how i can do it?10:21
AnniaNew linux image is on /dev/sda710:22
rigoMonkeyDust dwl i found it in english exactly: "There was an error playing video from webcam"10:22
rol_andbekks:  i get into "initramfs"10:22
bekksrol_and: when doing what?10:22
AnniaHow to change /dev#sda7 as /boot10:22
rol_andbekks:  now connected to console, and if i slect the first record in the grub menu (which is booting normally to ubuntu) it takes me to initramfs10:22
bekksrol_and: and it tells you wahy it does.10:22
naxilrigo if is "old" webcam u need to pre_load= different .so file10:22
rigoweird is that the webcam is well.... not new. :) and i was nice.10:23
dw1Annia: sudo update-grub may find it, then grub-install and you can choose at the boot screen maybe10:23
rol_andbekks:  though i noticed while booting tht theres a prob with one of the disks, it shows this: " hdio_get_identity: failed of /dev/sdl  invalid argument"10:23
opalepatrickOK, so if I install 14.04 on a separate partition will the boot manager show both my old (13.10) and new installs? home is separate anyway.10:23
rigonaxil: i tried something like pre_load. but not sure what to load exactly10:23
rol_andbekks:  then it times out and drops to shell10:23
bekksrol_and: do you use iscsi?10:24
rol_andbekks:  correct10:24
bekksrol_and: Then fix your iscsi connections.10:24
naxilvdpau firts version instead second version10:24
AnniaOk it's right10:24
Annia3.11-1910:24
rol_andbekks:  u mean this could be a physical hw issue10:24
rol_and?10:24
rigothis old sh|t http://www.amincon.net/images/USB%20webcam.jpg10:24
AnniaThanks10:24
bekksrol_and: Obviously, they are broken, the initiator cant connect, and booting breaks.10:24
bekksrol_and: YOU have to find that out :)10:25
dw1Annia: or you may be able to manually boot from grub10:25
rol_andbekks:  it could be related to my raid as the array which had boot on it is broken now10:25
rigothere is no brand there is no nothing. i think it should be supported out of box since 2001 :)10:25
bekksrol_and: do you use a raid upon iscsi devices?10:26
dw1Annia: with something like http://askubuntu.com/questions/38082/how-do-i-manually-boot-from-the-grub-prompt-after-do-release-upgrade10:26
AnniaThanks10:27
AnniaSuccessfully booted 14.0410:28
rol_andbekks:  i  asked the DC support to plug in a drive and install ubuntu on it . (that way i could reboot into a new isntallation and troubleshoot my raid from there) is there a way i could edit grub to read from the new installation10:30
rol_andbekks:  i can't get the uuid of the new disk though...10:30
rigoi read i hould preload /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so10:31
rigobut i dont have such10:32
kostkon!find v4l1compat.so10:32
ubottuFile v4l1compat.so found in libv4l-010:32
bekksrol_and: you have to fix your iscsi connections first.10:32
Debolaz2I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iMac with ATI Radeon in EFI mode, but when I boot up, all I get is a black screen. I know it got to the login prompt because I heard the sound for it, and the radeon driver seems to detect my display and load, but still... Blackness. Anyone know what the problem might be?10:33
MonkeyDustrigo  try    sudo apt-get install libv4l-010:33
rigoMonkeyDust: well.. :) good idea. sounds good. thanks. i give a try. but do you think this is the library i need?10:33
MonkeyDustrigo  not sure, never had that issue myself10:34
rigohhhmmm. it sais it is already the latest version. i search for the so file10:34
euryalehi10:35
euryalewhere is the best place to download deb packages for apps mostly in the ubuntu repo?10:36
MonkeyDusteuryale  'best place'?10:36
euryalei mean website?10:37
MonkeyDusteuryale  why do you need a website?10:37
euryalei reinstalled 14.04 3x today i don't want to download the packages over and over again.10:37
MonkeyDusteuryale  use synaptic or the software center10:38
euryaleyes but can i use it to download deb?10:39
MonkeyDusteuryale  start from the beginning, what brings you here10:39
euryalebecause i want someone to assist me regarding packages that involve ubuntu.10:40
rigoMonkeyDust naxil it works. i had to search for the .so and follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam/Troubleshooting10:40
euryaleknow some ways i can get i around what i wanted to do.10:40
tore_hi. anyone know if "linux-generic-lts-trusty" will be backported to precise, in the same way linux-generic-lts-{quantal,raring,saucy} was?10:40
MonkeyDustrigo  great!10:41
MonkeyDusteuryale  and what is it you want to do? why install the same distro 3 times?10:41
euryalecause i have mess up the video driver so re-installed it again. but that's not my concern now, i wanted to know if where i can download deb packages for apps in the ubuntu repo, so i can keep those and never have to download it again.10:43
MonkeyDusteuryale      sudo apt-get download [package name]10:44
euryalereally? it will download in the home folder?10:45
MonkeyDusteuryale  yes, to the folder you're in, just tried it10:45
euryalenice, i will try :) thanks10:46
MonkeyDusteuryale  didn't know it myself, thank you too :)10:46
euryaleoh one more thing, if for example all those packages are in the same folder, how do i install all of it in the terminal.10:47
kostkontore_, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU5NTk10:47
astroduckHi! Is there any restriction on the icon size/format of unity launcher shortcuts?10:47
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astroduckI am trying to set icon for an application in `main menu` but its not working10:48
tore_kostkon: awesome, thanks10:48
kostkontore_, np10:48
kostkon!details | astroduck10:51
ubottuastroduck: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)10:51
skinofstarshey guys. i've just upgraded and i've lost mouse scroll on the touchpad10:51
Lannister69I hear there is a pidgin plugin that supports skype. does anyone know if it also supports skype video call or its just text????10:52
skinofstarsis mouse scroll normally just updated in setting? 'cause there aren't any scroll options in there anymolre10:52
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euryale@MonkeyDust. Thanks man :D it's better than restoring backup by deja dup :)10:55
Lannister69Does anyone know if skype plugin for pidgin also supports video call or its just text??????10:55
astroduckI installed Photoshop using wine, and created a launcher for it using `main menu`. (Wine did create one for me but I didn't notice that) The icon I selected for mine was a 1024x1024 png. but it shows up as a white tile in dash. I tried changing the size to 512x512, 256x256, 128x128 but no luck! The default one had an icon, so i disabled the shortcut I created but still it didnt work. So I deleted both10:56
astroducklauncher shortcuts but one still shows up in dash (weird)10:56
paulus68after doing a fresh install of 14.04 I get this error at startup Zoekresultaten10:57
paulus68    error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found anyone knows how to solve this10:57
EnsifolkI installed a fresh 14.04 earlier today, I installed Chrome 64 as well. If I minimise chrome to the Unity launcher, and then open it again, Chrome's tab bar will become unresponsive and I can't select any opened tab, unless I un-expand and then expand the window. Any idea why?11:00
minimecastroduck: Try to change the size 64px or 48 px.11:01
MonkeyDusteuryale  glad i could help!11:01
rol_andbekks:  if i'm on grub command line, how can i detect which hd has the boot partition there's more than 8 Hds11:01
kostkonastroduck, you might need to log out and log back in. Or the desktop file might still be in ~/.local/share/applications    try using the full file path for the icon11:02
kostkonastroduck, a good size is 512x512, 1024x is probably an overkill11:03
Aki-Thinkpad!ping11:04
ubottupong!11:04
kostkon!pong11:04
ubottupong is an old atari game. It's fun!11:04
kostkon:)11:04
astroduckkostkon: where should I save the icon file? same folder as .deskop file?11:05
kostkonastroduck, anywhere11:05
astroduck.desktop *11:05
Lukas1321!ping11:05
ubottupong!11:05
MonkeyDustastroduck  /usr/share/pixmaps/ contains a lot of icons11:06
clue_hand /usr/share/icons11:06
kostkonastroduck, you could always save it in your theme's folder, and then refer to it by its name in your desktop file etc.11:06
Lannister69!king11:06
ubottukong11:06
kostkonastroduck, although that would require a little more work11:07
Lannister69!wing11:08
sydneyJDykstra1What other ubuntu torrnts should i seed? I am already doing lubuntu,ubuntu gnome,and xubuntu. Thanks in advance!!11:09
astroduckkostkon: I'll try logging in/out and see if it works :) brb11:09
MonkeyDustsydneyJDykstra1  kubuntu11:09
cfhowlettsydneyJDykstra1 ubuntustudio11:11
astroduckkostkon: No, now it doesn't even show up in dash :(11:11
cfhowlettsydneyJDykstra1 and ubuntu-server11:11
cfhowlettsydneyJDykstra1 edubuntu11:12
cocacolahallo11:12
MonkeyDustsydneyJDykstra1  and fedora     (joke)11:12
t4ng0guys help |  mate-desktop-environment : Depends: atril (>= 1.6.0) but it is not going to be installed11:12
sydneyJDykstra1just the main ubuntu server?11:12
kostkonastroduck, are you sure that the .desktop file is being saved in ~/.locate/share/applications11:12
kostkonastroduck, you could also paste the contents of the file11:12
fizk_hey guys, I'm about to update my apt-mirror to download trusty, but I don't have enough disk space to contain saucy and trusty11:13
fizk_does anyone know if apt-mirror will upgrade the existing packages, or will it fetch everything new?11:14
coinsenhello how can i prevent xorg / gdm / whatever gui from starting at boot?11:18
llutz!nox | coinsen11:18
ubottucoinsen: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode11:18
coinsenllutz: thanks. but what about disabling gdm service? why does this have to happen on boot loader level?11:19
astroduckkostkon: I removed the .desktop file and added another and it worked :D, the file contains the same contents as before but for some reason it works now11:19
kostkonastroduck, nice11:19
astroduckkostkon: Thanks for your help :)11:19
kostkonastroduck, np11:19
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astroduckkostkon: one more thing, will the launcher automatically update if I change the image?11:20
kostkonastroduck, it should11:20
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ProUbuntuI have the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but I can not put netspeed in the upper bar. Any sugestion?11:29
DarkKnightCZhi, what are the alternatives to evince? after upgrade to 14.04, it's terribly slow, i've installed okular, its much, much faster, but it doesn't have "unified style"11:29
kostkonDarkKnightCZ, adobe reader?11:30
SlartI can't seem to open local swf-files in any of my browsers any more.. might have something to do with an updated mime-type for flash but I haven't really found a good solution... Is it just my system? (Running 64 bit 14.04, tried with chromium and firefox)11:31
gryHow do I update from 12.04 to 14.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes has no such option.11:31
DarkKnightCZkostkon: wow, adobe actually makes some software available for linux, i will give it a try, thanks11:32
kostkonDarkKnightCZ, np11:32
MonkeyDust!upgrade | gry11:32
ubottugry: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade11:32
gryMonkeyDust: that's what I already looked at, like you may have noticed.11:32
kostkongry, it's not recommended yet to do so, but if you insist http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-0411:34
mnsekhmust have softwares for ubuntu 14.04 ?11:35
grymnsekh, ncdu, quassel, seamonkey, xfce, okular. That's what I use daily anyway. (Your use-case may be different.)11:36
xutlwhere is ubuntu manual ? 14.0411:36
xutl!manual11:36
ubottuThe Ubuntu Manual will help you become familiar with everyday tasks such as surfing the web, listening to music and scanning documents. With an emphasis on easy to follow instructions, it is suitable for all levels of experience. http://ubuntu-manual.org/11:36
gryxutl, ah. I see.11:36
MonkeyDustgry  I used do-release-upgrade -d   but it took hours11:37
gryI'm okay with 8 hours (except I'm on *really* crappy network).11:37
MonkeyDustgry  and this is broadband...11:37
xutlgry: there is ubuntu 13.10 manual there and not 14.0411:37
gryxutl, okay, do they have a 'contact' or 'feedback' link?11:38
xutlMonkeyDust: depends on file uploading server also, its both ways11:38
gryxutl, as a guess, most of their content is still valid.11:38
xutlgry: yea, most of it should be valid but it'll not be updated11:39
xutlgry: no contacts or feedback there on ubuntu-manual.org11:39
xutluse torrent, download iso, burn and use it to upgrade, much quicker11:40
gryxutl, You're right. The domain whois points me to `ubuntu-manual dot org at proxy dot dreamhost dot com`.11:41
kostkonxutl, it should come out soon i guess. launchpad page is here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual11:42
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xutlkostkon: why ubuntu manuals launchpad page states latest versiosn is "Getting started with Ubuntu13.04" when manual for 13.10 is already out and 14.04 is needed ?11:46
kostkonxutl, perhaps because the 14.04 version is not ready yet11:47
k1lxutl: file a bug so the maintainers know that there is something to change11:47
xutlk1l: ok11:48
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gstheroguys-i get home/gsthero/.fonts/sinfontpack: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs- after fc-cache while sinfontpack is not empty anada full of ttfs11:49
kostkonxutl, there is still activity in the trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/trusty11:49
paulus68gettin11:49
chris_____hi11:50
chris_____i am new here....11:50
paulus68after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normq11:50
paulus68after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found how do I solve this?11:50
kostkonchris_____, hi and welcome11:51
sydneyJDykstrachris_____: hi11:51
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chris_____i just installed latest version of ubuntu...but my computer is very slow....i am a complete newbie...i have a feeling it's the drivers11:51
chris_____anyone knows how to systematically tweak it to make it faster?11:51
chris_____hi kostkon11:52
DestinyAwaitsam getting this error on firefox, chrome etc 1.freenode│Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pa>>11:54
DestinyAwaits  weechat │17:38:15 --> | DestinyAwaits (~DestinyAw@unaffiliated/destinyawaits) has joined #ubuntu          │@unopaste11:54
DestinyAwaits2.#hadoop │17:38:15  -- | Topic for #ubuntu is "Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines:           │ 14WACK5XD11:54
DestinyAwaits3.#weechat│             | http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pastes to            │ 1JTAAHM4611:54
DestinyAwaits4.##jsf   │             | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | Release Notes: http://ubottu.com/y/rn | Download:      │ [Derek]11:54
DestinyAwaits5.#python │             | http://ubottu.com/y/dl | Currently supported: 10.04 LTS (server), 12.04 LTS,      │ [DS]Matej11:54
unopasteDestinyAwaits you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted11:54
kostkonchris_____, what is your hardware configuration11:55
kostkonDestinyAwaits, wrong paste maybe?11:55
DestinyAwaitsdunno what happened11:55
DestinyAwaitsit flooded i guess11:55
DestinyAwaitssorry11:55
DestinyAwaitsam getting getting error on firefox and chrome11:56
DestinyAwaitsdunno what error11:56
DestinyAwaitsnet::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED11:56
jskidfirst time to come,hi to everyone:)11:56
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DestinyAwaitshow to fix this?11:56
DestinyAwaitsanyone there?11:57
Sydneyjskid: Hello!!11:57
SydneyYes we are here!!11:57
DestinyAwaitsnet::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED how to fix11:58
DestinyAwaitssome sites don't open up11:58
jskidwhat r u guys talking about?11:58
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DestinyAwaitsrather some pages are not getting loaded11:58
DestinyAwaitsdue to this11:58
k1lDestinyAwaits: did you change something on the network settings? like dns or something?11:59
DestinyAwaitsno11:59
jasabellais Sydney from sydney .au? :)11:59
DestinyAwaitsI don't know much11:59
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DestinyAwaitswhat come pre-installed with Ubuntu 12.0411:59
DestinyAwaitsits there11:59
DestinyAwaitsis*11:59
Sydneyjasabella: No,I am from the US,but that would be funny.11:59
coolspothi11:59
jasabellaawww ok11:59
DestinyAwaitsany help to fix this?12:00
jasabellaDestinyAwaits... are you able to ping the host from commandline?12:00
DestinyAwaitsits really weird that web pages are not able to load properly12:00
DestinyAwaitslet me try12:00
SydneyDestinyAwaits:  I am looking................12:01
Sydneycoolspot: Hello!!12:01
DestinyAwaitsjasabella: bro the site is opening up12:01
DestinyAwaitsbut some css, js and other stuff are not12:01
jasabellaare you using a web browser?12:01
DestinyAwaitschrome and firefox12:02
DestinyAwaitschrome I installed12:02
jasabellahave you disabled mixedcontent perhaps?12:02
k1lDestinyAwaits: open up Network-Manager and make sure you are connected to the right network12:03
SydneyDestinyAwaits: Are you getting the problem when you use your bookmarks? Or is it all over?12:03
DestinyAwaitsah it seems broken everywhere12:03
BiFihi12:03
DestinyAwaitsI though its only ubuntu12:04
Yerst_hey12:04
DestinyAwaitsmy phone is also not able to open it12:04
DestinyAwaitscorrectly12:04
k1lok, so talk to your ISP12:04
DestinyAwaitsits cloudfront.net12:04
* Sydney does not know12:04
DestinyAwaitsanyone able to ping that site?12:04
DestinyAwaitsanyone able to ping cloudfront.net12:05
DestinyAwaits?12:05
jasabelladownforeveryoneorjustme.com12:05
dw1no, DNS error12:05
BiFiI've got a problem with ubuntu 14.04 on a machine with an ati radeon hd 775012:05
paulus68after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found how do I solve this?12:05
kristenbbin trusty, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" and  gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close, but none worked12:05
ItsYodadns error ^^12:05
g2dIn Python, tab key doesnt working. What should I do?12:05
DestinyAwaitsok then its for everyone and I thought I messed up12:05
DestinyAwaits:)12:05
DestinyAwaitsthanks everyone12:05
DestinyAwaits:)12:06
BiFiwith the opensource drivers it shows garbled desktop where the pointer acts normally12:06
DestinyAwaitsthere is one other problem anyone using the uxrvt?12:06
DestinyAwaitsit doesn't allow copy/paste12:06
BiFiwith the ati drivers I don't even get to the desktop after logging in12:06
DestinyAwaitsno tabs or file menu12:06
DestinyAwaitsthere is one other problem anyone using the uxrvt?12:07
DestinyAwaitsanyone using uxrvt?12:08
noradhi im wondering how do i know if im secure from heartbleed running ubuntu 12.0412:08
lieferI have a box that is very very overloaded. I have a good guess which process is causing the overload. However, i cannot ssh to the box, it just stalls when i try - Never prompting for username/password. Is there any way i can force a "killall xyz" through to this machine?12:08
kristenbbin 14.04, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried [gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"] and  [gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close], but none worked12:09
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k1l_kristenbb: just use unity-tweak-tool12:11
kristenbbk1l_: where is that tool ?12:11
DestinyAwaitsanyone using uxrvt?12:11
k1l_kristenbb: install if not installed yet12:12
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euryalehi guys12:12
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euryalewhenever i do this in the terminal: sudo apt-get download ubuntu-restricted-extras, the file will download but it's only for a few kb in the home folder, i wanted to download the whole package.12:13
eloichello ebody very12:13
eloiceverybody*12:13
soniaciao12:14
sonia!list12:14
ubottusonia: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».12:14
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soniaciao12:15
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kristenbbI have just installed the calculator lens, but it is not displayed by default, I have to click in 'calculator' in the sources...why ?12:15
nicofsI regularly "lose" my pc's internal card reader after safe removal. after that it's completely gone and even it's own power led is off. a reboot fixes this - but i can't be rebooting every time i want to insert a different sd card... is that a driver issue or some known bug?12:15
euryalei get it now :)12:16
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kristenbbk1l_: ok i have installed it, where can i change this option ?12:16
euryalesudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras12:16
k1l_kristenbb: that is the easter task now :) find the option ;p12:16
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kristenbbk1l_: what if it's not even available there?12:17
k1l_kristenbb: i mean: if you open the tool you will see a menue even labeled with your issue12:17
kristenbbk1l_: i don't see it, is it 'additional' ?12:18
Lostdoes every version of ubuntu have it's own repositories?12:18
euryale@Lost. maybe12:19
k1l_kristenbb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screenshot-2013-02-06-135448.png  3rd row, last item, what is written there?12:19
euryalenow that u mention it, im wondering about it now :)12:19
k1l_kristenbb: its even a picture12:19
k1l_Lost: yes.12:19
k1l_Lost: and mixing them will cause trouble12:20
kristenbbk1l_: i clicked on right in the alignment, but it doesn't change anything12:20
euryale@K1l. if one installed 10.04 is it possible to re-direct it's repository to 14.04?12:20
kukuhi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means12:20
kuku?12:20
k1l_euryale: no. that will make a lot of trouble. just make the upgrade twice with update-manager or do-release-upgrade12:20
kristenbbk1l_: it doesn't register my modification, when I come back to it, it's still on 'left'12:21
Losthasn't 14.04 only been out a few days?12:21
k1l_Lost: yes, since 17th april12:21
k1l_kristenbb:did you try a relogin?12:21
euryaleOh, lol.12:21
k1l_!upgrade | euryale12:21
ubottueuryale: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade12:21
Lostso then how long does it usually take for a piece of software to get uploaded to the new repositories?12:22
kristenbbk1l_: well if when I close the unity tweak tool and open it back, the option is still on 'left', I'm guessing that  relogging wont change anything, right ?12:22
hexafractionRoughly how long does it take for a new openjdk release to land in Ubuntu official repositories? I'm working on an open-source project but am averse to using new features until they land in official Ubuntu repos.12:22
k1l_Lost: there are no updates in one release (some exceptions)12:22
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MonkeyDustLost  the developpers decide what goes in the repos12:22
k1l_Lost: new versions wil be introduced with the next release12:22
hexafractionWow, fail, someone asked the same thing as I was typimh.12:23
AndChat|587225Hello12:23
kuku3413hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?12:23
k1l_kristenbb: is this a standard ubuntu? with no sudo or root stuff?12:23
kristenbbk1l_: how do you mean ?12:24
demonic_hello i want to ask if it's safe to upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 in a full encrypted system...12:24
k1l_if you made some chaos with sudo or root the file permissions could be spoiled so it doesnt change the settings12:24
Lostwell this peice of software isn't a piece of ubuntu. it's a media server released by 3rd parties. I got it to install on previous versions of ubuntu, but on 14.04 it says it can't find the software.12:25
euryale@MonkeyDust. Is this correct? sudo apt-get -d download xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx  where is xxxx is the package name, so i have multiple packages to download and its dependencies.12:25
k1l_kristenbb: ^12:25
k1l_Lost: which one exactly?12:25
tytanUbuntu isn't distributed via torrent?12:25
Lostplaystation media server12:25
AndChat|587225I had two times system crash when typing to dash on 14.04 and no login screen grom time to time. Is this common problem on 14.04?12:25
tobiwan31what is the command to change the chatroom for support in german???12:25
euryale@tytan. u can download ubuntu via torrent.12:25
kristenbbk1l_: I don't think so.12:25
MonkeyDusteuryale  i tried with   -d install gftp    it downloaded, but now i can't find it12:25
LostI can get a link to the post i'm following if you need12:26
euryaleok12:26
euryalei will try later ;)12:26
gry!torrents | tytan12:26
ubottutytan: Trusty can be torrented from http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/trusty/desktop/ubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent or http://torrent.ubuntu.com/simple/trusty/server/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent depending on your needs. Other flavors can be found at http://torrent.ubuntu.com:696912:26
euryalehow do u make the font color red?12:26
euryalelol nood question.12:26
euryalenoob.12:26
gryeuryale, red color in what? in irc?12:26
tobiwan31yes noob12:26
k1l_Lost: that was never in ubuntu repos. you always needed a PPA for that12:27
euryaleyeah. if they mention my name its automatically red.12:27
belgianguyI made it to 14.04 :) had to reinstall fglrx-updates through recovery mode, but that's almost a habit now12:27
k1l_Lost: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ps3MediaServer12:27
k1l_!de | tobiwan3112:27
ubottutobiwan31: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!12:27
Losthmmmm, then maybe Im using the wrong language. I'm new to linux12:27
tobiwan31thx12:27
LostI originally installed by typing 3 command lines in terminal. Let me get you that link12:28
AndChat|587225Anybody tried open as root Nautilus contextmenu on 1404? How to do that on trusty Tahr?12:28
k1l_Lost: yet, that 3 commands will most probably have added you the 3rd party repositories12:28
Lostactually the link you provided has the same information12:29
jskidanyone know something about linux VMware?I need some help12:30
demonic_hello i want to ask if it's safe to upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 in a full encrypted system...??12:30
belgianguyeuryale: that's just your client that highlights sentences with your nick in them12:30
belgianguyso you can see them better12:30
LostI get this error when I try to install E: Unable to locate package ps3mediaserver12:31
kostkon!find ps3mediaserver12:31
ubottuPackage/file ps3mediaserver does not exist in trusty12:31
euryaleah. but there is a notification on the icon of xchat in the unity launcher "1" .12:31
jskidvm shows need some kernel modul update,but when i  click install,it shows error.12:31
euryalehow do i do it?12:31
jskidHOW?12:31
jskidcan anybody help me ?12:32
k1l_Lost: the maintainer form that 3rd party repo doesnt habe 14.04 packages so far. you need to talk t him12:32
one2314.04 here12:32
BW^-does ubuntu automatically launch wpa_supplicant all the time?12:32
BW^-it's incredibly difficult to kill it off!12:32
Lostis there a way to install the previous versions package?12:33
k1l_Lost: you can compile yourself. read the help page i gave you12:33
masterhhh12:35
masterhave Chinese12:36
master?12:36
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ice9why there is no amd64 iso cd here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/12:36
MonkeyDustLost  http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=612:36
kostkon!cn | Guest8501912:36
ubottuGuest85019: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw12:36
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BW^-is there any gentler way to disable the wpa_supplicant service than by removing /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/fi.epitest.hostap.WPASupplicant.service ??12:37
MonkeyDustice9  rephrase: "where can i get the amd64 iso"12:37
ice9MonkeyDust: actually I need it's md5sum so it should be in the url I posted but it's not there12:38
phaoohhh =) 14.04 is out =D12:38
phaoI guess everyone here already knew =D12:39
LostMonkeyDust That was actually where I was reading from. Guess i'll have to register there and ask for the update.12:39
matt_hi, how can i find out if a harddisk is encrypted?12:39
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gareppaif you can't read it from a live cd, it's encrypted12:40
Guest56945ok thx12:40
phaoSome time ago, someone in here told me to wait for ubuntu 14.04 in order to make use of my nvidia video card, which has that optimus technology. It seems that previous to 14.04, the drivers available couldn't deal with it.12:40
phaoHe told me that by installing the suggested drivers, I could get an error such that the system wouldn't start-up anymore (I don't remember the details).12:41
phaoAny guide, now, on how to install the video driver for my nvidia card?12:41
gareppaif it's optimus you have o use bumblebee, not the official drivers12:41
kostkonBW^-, why does it bother you so much12:41
ice9what's the md5sum for the amd64 iso?12:42
gareppajust install bumblebee, it will download the appropriate drivers for your card12:42
phaogareppa, Ok.12:42
phaoThat's all?12:42
gareppaif you just use nvidia drivers, your nvidia card will be on ALL THE TIME, with overheat and reduced battery life12:42
MonkeyDustice9  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS12:42
gareppai tried that with 13.1012:42
phaogareppa, which is my current situation.12:42
k1l_!hashes | ice912:42
ubottuice9: See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes for the md5sums of all downloadable Ubuntu releases12:42
DumperZhello all12:43
phaogareppa, I guess.12:43
gareppabumblebee is awesome, you just have to install it and it autoconfigures itself12:43
DumperZi would like to find the sources of the graphic installer of ubuntu12:43
phaogareppa, ok. thanks!12:43
gareppa12:43
gareppa^^12:43
GreylocksIs it possible to change the icons on the launcher, and if so how?12:43
phaohehe12:43
phao^ì is the ^^ for a samurai who has a cut in his eye.12:44
gareppalol12:44
phaoø.O12:44
Guest56945whats the best way to encrypt my disk after ubuntu has been installed?12:44
DumperZi think i found http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/12:44
phaogareppa, that's a "puzzled samurai"12:44
DumperZbut i need to know the name of the installer files12:44
phaoor better, a "wtf samurai"12:44
MonkeyDustGuest56945  stert here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory12:45
MonkeyDuststart*12:45
kristenbbin 14.04, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried [gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"] and  [gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close], but none worked12:45
BiFiI've got a problem with 14.04 on a machine with an ATI Radeon HD 7750. With the opensource drivers it shows garbled desktop where the pointer acts normally. With the proprietary drivers I don't even get to the desktop after logging in. Picture available here: http://bifi.msxnet.org/temp/14.04-login.jpg12:46
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yellabshi there ,12:46
BiFiI had nog problems with 13.1012:47
BiFinog=no12:47
Guest38882HELLO12:47
k1l_kristenbb: i showed you the way. is the theme you are using blocking that?12:47
yellabsis there a way to boot in guest session only, for demonstrations purposes12:47
k1l_kristenbb: did you relogin?12:47
kukuhi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?12:47
k1l_kristenbb: is one of your previous false ways now blocking?12:47
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kristenbbk1l_: i did all you said, it's not working, i relogged and everything. I think there's something wrong with 14.0412:47
kuku3413hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?12:47
yellabsso at boot autologin into guest session12:47
BW^-kostkon:  i want to connect to a wifi network the "clean" way. how do?12:48
BW^-what is the recommended way to connect to a password-protected WPA network in Ubuntu?12:48
k1l_hmm12:48
BW^-would it be by configuring wpa_supplicant to connect to it, as it's running easily anyhow?12:48
kostkonDumperZ, apt-get source ubiquity   or if you mean the just the gui   apt-get source ubiquity-frontend-gtk    list of files here  http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/ubiquity/filelist  and  here http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/ubiquity-frontend-gtk/filelist for example12:48
k1l_BW^-: just use network manager12:49
kristenbbk1l_: I think it's got to do with the new unity decorations they added for 14.04, it broke the ability to do that. Any way I could still be able to do what I want with 14.04, or do I need to go back to 13.10 ?12:49
k1l_BW^-: the icon in the systray12:49
kostkonBW^-, what k1l_ said12:49
DumperZkostkon thanks a lot, yes it is exactly what i need , especially the install script12:50
kostkonDumperZ, np12:50
MonkeyDustkristenbb  would you go back to an earlier release, simply because the close button is on the wrong side?12:50
BW^-k1l_: the one wih two computers on it, and it has a menu option leading to a window saying "Network Connections"?12:51
kristenbbMonkeyDust: yes, this is very inconvenient for me12:51
MonkeyDustkristenbb  you can also get familiar with the new position of the close button12:52
kristenbbMonkeyDust: and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Not to mention all those XP users (the xp support just ended) that will want to go to ubuntu, just to find out that the close button is not where it's supposed to be12:52
kristenbbMonkeyDust: that's not how ergonomy is supposed to work, the software should adapt to the user, or give the option to do as the user wants, not the opposite12:53
k1l_kristenbb: then file a bug, help the maintainers to solve the problem.12:54
kristenbbMonkeyDust: why do you think the windows 8 didnt work that well ? just because microsoft just made the same assumptions about users adapting to new software12:54
k1l_!bug | kristenbb12:54
ubottukristenbb: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.12:54
k1l_kristenbb: so help the community instead of demanding stuff and others to do the work12:55
kristenbbI am helping, by saying that this is wrong12:56
k1l_BW^-: yes, the network thingy. click on it and you will see the settings. its quite easx12:56
k1l_kristenbb: then stop saying. or help and file a bug. your acall12:56
MonkeyDustkristenbb  yes, you're entitled to that opinion12:56
euryalehow do i download a package in the terminal including it's dependencies?12:57
kristenbbMonkeyDust: usually when there are different opinions about a user experience, the best way to answer that is to give the user the option to choose. That's how it was in ubuntu 13.10, 12.04, and all the others before, but now this feature is broken.12:57
euryaleis this right: sudo apt-get -d packagename12:57
euryaleis this right: sudo apt-get -d download packagename12:57
k1l_kristenbb: did you file a bug and help the maintainer?12:58
BW^-k1l_,kostkon: so the network manager tool is supposed to work out of the box, or needs some daemon running without saying so?12:58
k1l_BW^-: that works out of the box. except there are driver issues with the wifi card12:58
MonkeyDusteuryale  i guess it's either   sudo apt-get download foo *or* sudo apt-get -d install foo12:58
cecahello everyone, gimp pisses me off..the page I opened a file goes up out of the display. only tool windows appear, and I cant make the main file window come back12:59
euryalei tried this in ubuntu restricted extras, but downloaded only a few kb12:59
euryalethe file is about 70mb13:00
cecaI think it happens when I switch windows by alt+tab13:01
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kristenbbk1l_: it seems difficult to create a bug report. I have created a launchpad account, what now ?13:05
Franky333Hello, i have a question about the installation of Ubuntu 14.04. It works well but the download of the additional packets (e.g. language) is very slow (approx. 30kB/s). Is it possible to change the download mirror usednin the installation?13:06
k1l_!bug | kristenbb13:06
kristenbbk1l_: this page is quite long, I don't understand it all13:06
OerHeksFranky333, sure, you can change the mirror in software sources, but the servers are smokin' because of the release13:07
k1l_<ubottu> kristenbb: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.13:07
kostkonFranky333, open your updater, click on settings13:07
kristenbbk1l_: it mostly seems to be talking about crashes and so on, but in my case,  what am I supposed to do ?13:07
k1l_the bots message mentiones the command13:07
k1l_use that command, that collects data and opens the launchpad site. there you say what is not working13:08
Franky333I already tried that but it did not change the mirror uswd during installation. installing something in the live system using apt-get is fast as usual.13:09
Franky333*used13:09
sixwheeledbeasthey all, it's busy here. I have just updated to 14.04 and my gnome-panel is missing from both my flashback DM options. Any ideas why this has happened and/or how to fix?13:10
ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after resume, so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!13:11
ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!13:12
szymon_h@ovrflow0x what graphic drivers are you using?13:13
ovrflw0xszymon_h, open source radeon driver13:13
ovrflw0xi've got "radeon.dpm=1" as kernel param for power management could it be the reason? szymon_h13:14
MonkeyDustszymon_h  it's easier to read, if you drop the @ and use tab13:14
szymon_hoverflw0x check the logs, most likely it's radeon drivers, had such issues with multiple cards13:15
szymon_hovrflw0x do you experience the same issue without dpm?13:16
szymon_hovrflw0x I had trouble with radeon drivers many many times13:16
balazshi. Does anyone know of a way to do autocomplete in Ubuntu not just on the command line, but like when composing an email in Google Mail ? Something similar to what cellphones do.13:18
juttahi guys, I need help with the setup of an open-vpn client. I got the config files in ~/.openvpn, including key and certs, and the file server.firma.conf. its contents are: http://pastebin.com/0WsYkY8Z when I try to connect via networkmanager, I get the time-out error, if I try in the terminal via "openvpn --config server.firma.conf", I get this: http://pastebin.com/3bf7Z0xe. What could I do now?13:18
minimecsixwheeledbeast: Try sudo 'dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel' once.13:18
newb_ubuntuHow do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.13:20
ovrflw0xszymon_h, is providing radeon.dpm=1 necessary? or should i remove it as ubuntu 14.04 takes care of it byitself?13:20
newb_ubuntuHow do I manually set a 1600x900 display resolution ?13:20
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newb_ubuntuthanks a lot for the support :)13:21
BiFiI may have found a bug in the radeonhd driver, but I can't post the bug on the ubuntu machine as I can't read through the garbled screen13:22
sixwheeledbeastminimec: ok thanks, currently in unity as flashback is unusable, I can't even open a terminal with the keyboard shortcut . so will have to switch back to DM in a minute to check if that works13:23
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sixwheeledbeastminimec: nope still missing, would I need to reboot?13:33
hunter_usert13:34
newb_ubuntuHow do I manually set a 1600x900 display resolution ?13:34
AndroUserHello, I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04, but I can't see Wifi option under my network menu13:35
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: edit your xorg.conf or create an xorg.conf13:35
sixwheeledbeastthe only difference is now the windows have close on the right13:35
Akishonahi ! i just upgraded from 1204lts to 14lts13:36
Akishonathis message appeared when i tried to remvove the package mentioned in the error message: The "openjdk-7-jre" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:13:36
Akishonausing muon13:37
minimecsixwheeledbeast: No. reboot shouldn't be nessesary. You could try to add a new user for a test once and see whether the desktop seetings are working with that test account. If yes, you should clean some settings on your personal account.13:37
sixwheeledbeastok thanks I will look at that.13:37
MktWizard108\#lubuntu13:38
MktWizard108join /#lubuntu13:39
AndroUserAnyone knows how to get Wifi working in Ubuntu 14.04?, it's nowhere in networking menu13:39
newb_ubuntudioioib: Please let me know did I create xorg correctly ? I copy from some website and edit but I should I edit on the "Section "Device" http://pastebin.com/Rzf0GiFU13:39
usr13AndroUser: You probably do not have it defined in the network-manager, or, the driver has not been loaded. What does iwconfig say about it?13:40
usr13AndroUser: iwconfig |grep ireless13:40
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: looks ok I don't see any references to your display adapters though.13:40
usr13AndroUser: New insntall, or upgrade from 12.04? Or.....?13:41
AndroUserUsr13: new installation13:41
IEEEI'm trying to install the latest catalyst driver after updating to 14.04. It fails saying it needs the system to have 'kernel headers for 3.7 release' Does it really need that?13:41
AndroUserIt says, eth0 no wireless extension13:41
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: you could also try the ctv method listed in this link at the bottom http://mac.linux.be/content/setting-xorgconf-manually-xrandr13:41
usr13AndroUser: Any others?  (Besides eth0?)13:43
usr13AndroUser: (Scroll up a little)... Shift-PageUp13:44
AndroUserYa, it's, lo no wireless extensions.13:44
newb_ubuntudioioib: Getting error warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring13:44
AndroUserusr13: sorry I'm on mobile, already solved?13:45
dioioibwhat version of ubuntu are you running?13:45
usr13AndroUser: Ok, good.13:45
NRF19Hey, I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 12.04 via DVD - I manage the install to a clean formatted drive but when it comes to the reboot my PC is stuck on verifying dmi pool data, I've tried a few times to no avail, also tried using boot repair which claims it's been successfully but same error, hdd is set as primary boot device13:46
usr13AndroUser: You probably just need to plug into a wired internet connection and do updates.13:46
NRF19Error is Disc Boot failure13:46
juttahi guys, I need help with the setup of an open-vpn client. I got the config files in ~/.openvpn, including key and certs, and the file server.firma.conf. its contents are: http://pastebin.com/0WsYkY8Z when I try to connect via networkmanager, I get the time-out error, if I try in the terminal via "openvpn --config server.firma.conf", I get this: http://pastebin.com/3bf7Z0xe. What could I do now?13:46
usr13AndroUser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade13:46
AndroUserOk, let me try, thanks for prompt replies13:47
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: ok so the monitor does not have low voltage differential signaling? how is it connected DIV or VGA cables?13:47
NRF19Tried two harddrive and getting same error also13:47
dw1jutta: best ask in #openvpn13:48
ghghghhi guys13:48
ghghghhow are you going all?13:49
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: can I see your xorg again my irc crashed13:49
ghghghit happens when13:49
NRF19Any tips as to what to try next?13:50
ichatin lubuntu (lxde)  i found a really strange 'translation"  for ignore capitalisation in file names,  seen in this image.. http://nl.tinypic.com/r/33p6az6/8  ...   now ive been looking at google for the past ten minutes but havn't fould how to fix it and where to send a better translation13:52
dw1NRF19: maybe try http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+disc+boot+failure+boot-repair13:52
dw1NRF19: maybe boot-repair to another partition or somethin :)13:54
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sixwheeledbeastminimec: thanks, the test account is working correctly. How to go about fixing my account.13:57
ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!13:57
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Guest91386so is something up with the proprietary driver for amd cards on 14.04?14:00
IEEEI'm having problems too14:01
monkeynautwhen i get a new IM in Pidgin, is there a way to make the launcher wiggle until I click on it?   it only wiggles for a second and i end up not seeing it if i leave my desk14:01
Guest91386yeah, i follow the directions on their wiki, for saucy anyway, and after a reboot i get a black screen with some window14:01
Luyinmonkeynaut: which DE are you using? unity?14:02
monkeynautLuyin: yes14:02
IEEEI made a thread on ubuntuforums but no replies yet14:02
Luyinmonkeynaut: the indicator-plugin should light up when you receive a message14:02
Guest91386what's the thread?14:02
IEEEhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218020&p=12993440#post1299344014:03
monkeynautLuyin: up by the clock, correct?14:03
Luyinmonkeynaut: yes14:03
Guest91386yeah, it's annoying that the 14.3 drivers have a built option for trusty, but the system breaks on reboot14:04
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ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!14:04
newb_ubuntu<dioioib : it doesn't have xorg , I just wanted to create it and you direct me the link14:05
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PsychoLoLiTahi14:06
ovrflw0xhey PsychoLoLiTa are you female?14:06
PsychoLoLiTaf off14:07
k1l_ovrflw0x: this is not a dating channel. the gender doesnt matter at all.14:07
PsychoLoLiTai want somebody to help on my ubuntu14:07
Guest91386seriously, asking people their gender?14:07
k1l_PsychoLoLiTa: please watch your language in here. no need to get rude. thanks14:07
PsychoLoLiTaokey :P14:08
newb_ubuntudioioib : it doesn't have xorg , I just wanted to create it and you direct me the link14:08
Mehmet_22istslm14:08
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minimecsixwheeledbeast: Well easiest way is to rename you existing /home folder on in console mode to /home/yourname-old and create a new /home/yourname account. Otherwise do <ctrl>h to see the hiden folders and delete .gnome2 .gconf maybe .config/dconf for a start14:08
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sasukehi guys!..14:09
ovrflw0xhey sasuke14:10
ovrflw0xwhat is the problem?14:10
sixwheeledbeastminimec: I have tried --recursive-reset and deleting .gconf .gnome2 and rebooting before I asked on here.14:10
PsychoLoLiTai need help on ubuntu plz14:10
k1l_!ask | PsychoLoLiTa14:10
ubottuPsychoLoLiTa: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:10
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, just say what your problem is14:10
sasukeovrflw0x, i just created a partition, i was unable to find the uuid of that14:10
ovrflw0xsasuke, type "blkid"14:10
MonkeyDustsasuke  lsblk or sudo blkid14:11
sasukecan anyone tell me how can i get that. I use "sudo blkid" but its only showing for "/ & swap" partitions14:11
MrSw3d3nsomeone tried install 14.04 in virtualbox?14:11
aligatordoes anyone know a good external usb wifi dongle that is compatible with ubuntu and is capable with the aircrack-ng suite, specifically, it is capable of raw packet injection14:11
sasukenot for the newly created partition14:11
PsychoLoLiTai want to put in my ubuntu this card14:12
NightTrojanhi14:12
Senorhow do I list all availables host in my network for my host?14:12
sasukesasuke@SL410:~$ sudo blkid14:12
sasuke/dev/sda1: UUID="b11b1745-a401-4877-b5df-8a6ddabe4841" TYPE="ext4"14:12
sasuke/dev/sda5: UUID="09b1be91-d0f0-41d2-b86e-5452ca9640fe" TYPE="swap"14:12
sasukesasuke@SL410:~$ sudo lsblk14:12
PsychoLoLiTaNvidia GeForce GTX660M 2GB14:12
PsychoLoLiTayou know heow?14:12
PsychoLoLiTahow&14:12
Guest91386what do you mean PsychoLoLiTa ?14:12
k1l_sasuke: run a "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end) and put it into a pastebin14:12
PsychoLoLiTai dont have graphic driver14:13
sasukeok14:13
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, are you asking if it's possible to use the card with ubuntu, or asking how to install the card in your system?14:13
NightTrojaneveryone got ubuntu 14.04?14:13
k1l_PsychoLoLiTa: put it into the pc and then boot. the free driver should work14:13
PsychoLoLiTato install14:13
NightTrojananyone got ubuntu 14.04?14:13
MonkeyDustNightTrojan  a lot of people, better ask your real question14:14
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, you just pop the card into a pci-e slot14:14
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, you can easily google how to do it14:14
NightTrojan@MonkeyDust do you like ubuntu 14.04?14:14
PsychoLoLiTai google it but i dont do it nothing14:15
Ca11umOn a Ubnutu directory layout, where would be the most suitable place for all-user data? On Windows I'd make "C:\Folder\", on Ubuntu would it just be '/folder', or is there a more suitable location?14:15
Ca11umUbuntu*14:15
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, then you're not googling right. it is literally one of the easiest things to do14:15
ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!14:15
MonkeyDustNightTrojan  this is the support channel, better ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic14:15
sasukek1l_, http://pastebin.com/iBhCaeUE14:15
HieberrrI tried installing Gnome 3 on 14.4 and it won't show up on the login screen. I'm not sure what to do.14:15
k1l_PsychoLoLiTa: its supported. just build it into your hardware and then boot ubuntu14:15
Hieberrr14.04*14:15
NightTrojanahh ok thanks MonkeyDust14:15
minimecsixwheeledbeast: This would be a 'tutorial' for a new user account. https://askubuntu.com/questions/43584/how-to-reset-main-user-account/43589#4358914:15
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k1l_PsychoLoLiTa: for hardware questions better ask in #hardware14:15
PsychoLoLiTaok14:16
ovrflw0xbye PsychoLoLiTa14:16
k1l_sasuke: so sda3?14:16
Guest91386PsychoLoLiTa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPM7PKdk7q014:16
sasukeyes14:16
euryaletrying to download wine and its dependencies but just cant get to work, i used this command: sudo apt-get -d download wine14:17
MonkeyDusteuryale  drop the -d14:18
euryalei only get a kb of file. but when i do apt-get wine, it lists all dependencies.14:18
k1l_sasuke: is there something on sda3 or can you format that again?14:18
euryale@MonkeyDust. I wanted to download the dependencies too.14:18
sixwheeledbeastminimec: great thanks, bookmarked.14:18
niko__login14:19
MonkeyDusteuryale  i guess they come, when you install the deb14:19
ovrflw0xcomputer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!14:19
sasukek1l_, no, its just created.. but i didnt give the partition type with ext4. i'll try now14:19
euryaleit would not be good for offline install, it will fetch.14:19
euryalei can type the packages but there's about hundreds of it lol.14:20
HieberrrSort of a noob question, but can anyone help me install Gnome?14:20
Guest91386Hieberrr, are you on a fresh install of ubuntu?14:21
HieberrrGuest91386: Yeah, I just installed Ubuntu 14.0414:21
k1l_Hieberrr: apt-get install gnome-shell14:21
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k1l_Hieberrr: you mean gnome3 (aka gnome shell), right?14:21
Hieberrrk1l_: yeah14:22
Hieberrrk1l_: for some reason after I install it, it's not an option on my login screen14:22
k1l_Hieberrr: are you sure?14:23
HieberrrYeah14:23
HieberrrI'll try it again14:23
llutz!offline | euryale:14:24
ubottueuryale:: If you need to download Ubuntu packages using another machine or OS, check the desired packages in Synaptic and select File > Generate package download script. Alternatively, try http://ubottu.com/ljl/apt/ - See also !APTonCD14:24
snufftare there any Americans in here who wouldn't mind answering an off topic question via pm or something? I just need to know the difference/purpose of a 5 digit and a 4 digit zip code :P14:24
k1l_snufft: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic14:24
MonkeyDustsnufft  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there14:24
MonkeyDustk1l_  was faster14:25
snufftk1l_, MonkeyDust cheers! :D14:25
sasukek1l_, can you  give the command for specifing partition type for the new partition14:25
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k1l_sasuke: why dont you just use gparted, the one with the gui?14:26
sasukek1l_, gui is good, but i want to learn things ... so trying with cmd14:26
sasukethanks , no issues i will with that if i didnt find14:27
k1l_sasuke: i think sda3 is way too small anyway. with gparted you will have a better view of the partition scheme14:27
ovrflw0xdo i need "RADEON.DPM=1" as kernel parameter OR is it handled by Ubuntu 14.04 by default?14:28
Guest91386ovrflw0x, are you trying to install the proprietary driver? i've been having issues with it14:29
ovrflw0xGuest91386, "radeon.dpm=1" itself suggests that it is OPEN SOURCE driver14:30
krosonovrflw0x: what-s your graphics card_14:30
kroson?14:30
ovrflw0xkroson, Radeon HD565014:30
Guest91386blarg, just trying to figure out why the hell the proprietary driver seems to mess up on 14.0414:30
ovrflw0xkroson, that's discrete and integrated is intel i915 on laptop14:30
krosonovrflw0x: should be enabled by default14:30
ovrflw0xkroson, atm i'm using discrete14:30
newb_ubuntudioioib: Please let me know did I create xorg correctly ? I copy from some website and edit but I should I edit on the "Section "Device" http://pastebin.com/Rzf0GiFU14:30
MrSw3d3nwhanna dual-boot 14.04 with W8 (oem installation on thinkpad x1), but 140.04 doesnt recognise te other os...14:31
chriysWhere is located the alias config file ?14:31
ovrflw0xkroson, how can i verify that14:31
krosonGuest91386: what do you mean? works fine in my PC14:31
chriysWhere is located the alias config file ?14:31
krosonovrflw0x: cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/64/radeon_pm_info14:32
wizonesolutionspartitioning an external hard drive is no different than a regular one, right? probably actually a bit simpler if not booting anything. one can use GParted or similar?14:32
ovrflw0xkroson, i only have i915 files under 64 dir14:33
krosonovrflw0x: that command needs to be done as root I think14:34
chriysHi all where is located the alias config file ?14:34
krosonHow can you tell that you are running the discrete AMD card?14:34
Guest11587how to linux control the memory14:34
Guest11587how14:34
dioioibnewb_ubuntu: there is a lot missing from your xorg everything related to your video card and the display ports is not there. Did you run xrandr -q?14:34
ovrflw0xkroson, uvd    vclk: 0 dclk: 0 power level 0    sclk: 10000 mclk: 15000 vddc: 900 vddci: 0 <-- does that mean radeon.dm=1 is ON?14:34
krosonovrflw0x: yes :)14:35
chriysHi all where is located the alias config file ?14:35
ovrflw0xkroson, but i had radeon.dpm=1 added as command line14:35
ovrflw0xkroson, what should i check after removing radeon.dpm=1?14:35
ovrflw0xhow to know if dpm=1 is on or not?14:36
krosonovrflw0x: The same thing14:36
Guest11587the memory  control  in linux14:36
ovrflw0xkroson, is there anything particular i should look for under radeon_pm_info14:36
llutzchriys: personal ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_aliases, systemwide /etc/...14:36
chriysllutz: thanks let met try that14:37
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johndropperHello14:37
aligatorhi14:37
krosonovrflw0x: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324733/how-to-enable-the-radeon-dynamic-power-management-feature14:37
johndropperI needed up windows 8 last night14:37
krosonlook at the first answer14:38
chriysllutz: is this the file where we add our alias?14:38
johndropperMessed14:38
johndropperI accidentally erased it while installing Ubuntu I hit the button and after what I did I pulled the battery after five seconds14:38
johndropperNow I get a message saying things can't be located14:38
llutzchriys: use either ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_aliases14:38
NightTrojandon't get windows 8 dude14:38
johndropperI already have windows eight I was trying to install ubuntu alongside Windows 814:39
PsychoLoLiTasomebody to help me to install my nvidia graphic card?14:39
PsychoLoLiTaiam new user ion ubuntu14:39
chriysllutz: the reason why I want that path it's because I install composer globally but I don't remember the path of composer.phar14:39
chriysthe place I put it14:40
ovrflw0xok kroson14:40
llutzchriys: find / -name  composer.phar14:40
krosonovrflw0x: that kind of output means you have dpm activated. If dpm wasnt activated, would be different output14:40
NightTrojanAnyone know the minimum ram for ubuntu?14:40
ovrflw0xkroson, so DPM was enabled by default and i also added kernel.dpm=1 is that why ubuntu "hanged" after resuming from suspend?14:41
testing1209347when will do-release-upgrade work for 12.04 -> 14.04 ?14:41
chriysllutz: it does nothing14:41
SlartNightTrojan: depends on what you're going to run.. for unity and such I would say something like 1gb.. don't know the official number though14:42
llutzchriys: means, the file doesn't exist14:42
ovrflw0xkroson, ?14:42
chriysthis is weird I used it 3 days ago14:42
kupo_where to get 14.04 PPA's?14:42
NightTrojan@Slart im running 1gb, a bit slow upgrading to 2gb14:43
MonkeyDusttesting1209347  it works with   -d   but it takes hours14:43
llutzchriys: find / -iname '*composer*'14:43
krosonovrflw0x: I dont think so. Ubuntu hanged after resuming from suspend for different reason, probably. But remove that option, if you dont need it14:43
SlartNightTrojan: have you considered something a bit lighter? lubuntu perhaps?14:43
Hell-onope14:43
ovrflw0xkroson, can you tell why ubuntu failed to start after suspend?14:43
newb_ubuntuHow do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.14:44
ovrflw0xi can give you the details14:44
ovrflw0xi've the report14:44
Hell-ohow14:44
testing1209347MonkeyDust: even with -d it will be the actual release from the 17th then?14:44
krosonovrflw0x: Im not sure. There can be many causes. Just pastebin and someone might help14:44
dw1johndropper: ouch.. reinstall/restore win8 then install ubuntu :-/  if you have important files... well they might be lost if the partition is gone14:44
SlartNightTrojan: the basic system doesn't use much memory.. it's the gui stuff that matters most, in my experience.. just changing from gnome to something like XFCE can make a big difference14:44
minimeckupo_: The maintainer of the ppa has to make a package available for the 14.04 distro. So doing apt add-repository ppa will do. If it is not working correctly, you can try to modify the repo entry manually and change trusty to saucy for the repo.14:45
MonkeyDusttesting1209347  i did it that way, works like a charm14:45
ovrflw0xkroson, i can't copy the report14:45
one23ive installed 14.04, VLCSub not working anymore14:45
ovrflw0xkroson, it is asking me if i want to send it or not14:45
testing1209347MonkeyDust: cool beans thx14:45
MonkeyDusttesting1209347  but i repeat, it takes up to 2 hours and you must stay present, to confirm some changes14:46
krosonovrflw0x: whats your graphics card and laptop model14:46
ovrflw0xkroson, Envy14 hp notebook, graphics card - discrete Radon HD5650 and intel integrated i91514:47
ovrflw0x2010 model Kromaz14:47
ovrflw0xkroson, ^^^^14:47
chuckyhas anyone had issues with software center on 140414:47
gast__1hi14:47
Slartchucky: yes14:48
MonkeyDustchucky  what kind of issues?14:48
krosonovrflw0x: I dont know, maybe theres some sort of problem with dual graphics AMD plus Intel on that machine. Maybe googling could help14:48
ovrflw0xKroson it deosn't happen always only sometimes14:48
ovrflw0xi've experienced it only 1 time14:48
chuckySlart: when trying to install software which requires popup during install I get a grey screen and everthing freezes with no popup14:48
krosonvery weird. Maybe it only suspends with one, integrated or discrete14:49
gast__1how can I configure the unity panel to show the option to reboot?14:49
newb_ubuntuhow do I view fan speed ?14:49
ovrflw0xkroson, integrated is OFF i'm only using Discrete radeon card14:49
Slartchucky: same thing here.. it just hangs, probably waiting for that popup to finish, until you kill the process14:49
Slartchucky: installing the offending package in a regular terminal worked for me14:49
MonkeyDustgast__1  !ccsm has a lot of tweaks, maybe it's one of them14:49
chuckyapt-get appears to be only fix14:50
gast__1!ccsm14:50
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' (or 'simple-ccsm' for pre-Oneiric). If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz14:50
krosonovrflw0x: I know. I mean that it might only suspend correctly with one but not the other14:50
ovrflw0xkroson, to verfiy that what info do you need?14:51
ovrflw0xverify*14:51
one23newb_ubuntu: with psensor14:51
krosonIm not really into that, sorry. I think you should repost your question here and see if anyone comes with an idea14:52
ovrflw0xkroson, it says "Problem Type - Kernel Oops"14:52
one2314.04, VLSub not working anymore?14:52
sidgwickHi, I'm learning Bittorrent protocol now. I sent handshake to peers, but I got nothing, why? what the response look like?14:52
MonkeyDustone23  try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall vlc-plugin-vlsub14:53
NightTrojan@Slart it Gnome looks so good, i'd rather buy more ram than change to xfce14:53
SlartNightTrojan: ram is pretty cheap.. I would do the same in your position14:54
NightTrojan@Slart i've considered using lubuntu, tryed the 'live' version, but can't seem to get wifi working14:54
RealKillazHi there14:55
RealKillazIs there a channel specially for the server?14:55
carlhuq14:55
carlhuq14:55
carlhuquit14:55
MonkeyDustRealKillaz  #ubuntu-server14:55
aligatordoes an external usb wifi dongle work the same as an internal wifi card? when i type "ifconfig" or "iwconfig" will it appear as if inside?14:55
RealKillazthank you MonkeyDust14:56
newb_ubuntuone23 thanks14:57
Raider_does anyone knows how to make "Audigy FX" to work in ubuntu ?14:57
newb_ubuntuAnyone know how to manually set the display setting ? to 1600x900 ?14:57
minimecRealKillaz: #ubuntu-server --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList14:57
MonkeyDust!find audigy14:57
ubottuFile audigy found in ld10k1, oss4-base, oss4-dkms14:57
jjavaholici'm looking for an app that can bulk xmp tag my images?14:58
Slartaligator: I think so... just tried it here with an old d-link usb wifi stick14:58
Raider_Audigy FX sorry but this  sound card is based on realtek chipset and sound as default in ubuntu is just noise14:58
Slartaligator: I got a wlan0 interface and everything seems to be working as far as I can tell14:58
ovrflw0xcan anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?14:59
aligatorSlart: thank you very much14:59
Raider_every single time i try ubuntu something doesnt work14:59
arminRaider_: get a mac. *runsforcover*15:00
MonkeyDustarmin  and what is audigy fx?15:00
Raider_audigy fx need internal PCI-PCIE driver to work i think15:01
DestinyAwaitsThe site is loading pretty good now but on browser its not15:01
MonkeyDustyou think15:01
SlartRaider_: on a similar note.. everytime I try to use anything made by creative I run into problems.. linux or windows doesn't matter =/15:01
armini'm just surprised to see we still have to deal with tearing under X15:01
NukienAnyone here having trouble with 14.04 and php5/php5-fpm/mcrypt ? "php --ri mcrypt" shows it enabled, but phpinfo() doesn't, only showing the authors. roundcube can't log in, and phpmyadmin claims it's not enabled.15:01
DestinyAwaitsthe /etc/resolv.conf has one entry15:01
DestinyAwaitsnameserver 127.0.0.115:01
DestinyAwaitsis it correct??15:01
MonkeyDustRaider_  and what is it supposed to do?15:01
arminone should think that should finally not be an issue anymore15:02
one23MonkeyDust it didnt work15:02
Raider_oh well i stick to wiindows and wait another 5 years maybe then it will work properly15:02
MonkeyDustone23  what didnt work?15:02
Raider_<MonkeyDust> sound card should play sounds not static15:03
MonkeyDustRaider_  other things don't work in windows, or in mac, that happens15:03
MonkeyDustRaider_  ah, ok, so the sound card15:03
Raider_everything works in windows for my whole life15:04
one23MonkeyDust VLSub reinstalled15:04
Raider_not including broken hardware15:04
NightTrojanI'm thinking of building a dedicated ubuntu machine, i need help with the build15:04
MonkeyDustone23  maybe try reinstalling vlc, then15:05
Raider_ok now how do i remove grub ?15:06
Raider_i know how but reinstalling windows  takes like 2 hours15:07
SlartMonkeyDust: there's a warning about vlsub not working with vlc 2.1.0 because of some lua problem.. what version of vlc are you using?15:07
minimecNightTrojan: I would take some motherboard with an intel chipset and some i5/7 CPU. If you need a dedicated GPU, I would tend to Nvidia.15:07
SlartRaider_: you can restore the boot sector with a windows install/repair cd I think.. you might be able to get better help in something like ##windows15:08
MonkeyDustSlart  address one23 , s/he's the one with the vlsub issue15:08
SlartMonkeyDust: ah.. sorry bout that15:09
Slartone23: there's a warning about vlsub not working with vlc 2.1.0 because of some lua problem.. what version of vlc are you using?15:09
Sh0rtWaveHi all15:09
NightTrojan@minimec what if i add nvidia 660 and 1tb hard drive with 120gb ssd for ubuntu15:09
tarelerulzUsing google chrome remote desktop on Ubuntu 14.04  and not getting anything .15:10
minimecNightTrojan: ... then you are a 'power user' ... ;)15:10
Slarttarelerulz: any errors? or just not getting any connections?15:11
tarelerulzNo connecting15:11
holsteintarelerulz: try reinstalling.. try pinging the machines to make sure they have connection. try letting firewalls down to test.. report to the creators15:11
NightTrojan@minimec whats a ''poweer user''?15:11
NightTrojan''power''*15:11
tarelerulzI turned off the firewall at one point and still the same hting15:11
holsteintarelerulz: well, turn it off, and confirm that you can ping the machine,and that they have access to each other15:12
minimecNightTrojan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_user15:12
tarelerulzI'm trying to use my android device  as the control and the host is my Ubuntu computer which I'm writting this now15:12
Slartone23: read this thread about vlsub not working in vlc 2.1.x  especially the reply from exebetche https://github.com/exebetche/vlsub/issues/2815:12
holsteintarelerulz: try from computer to computer, to rule out the mobile control15:13
tarelerulzGood call15:13
newb_ubuntuHow do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.15:14
module000newb_ubuntu: use xrandr to add new modes and switch to them if the GUI isn't cooperating15:15
schadialo15:15
schadico fajnego15:15
schadi?15:15
Slart!pl | schadi15:16
ubottuschadi: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.15:16
NightTrojan@minimec I like it!15:16
blockiequit15:16
minimecnewb_ubuntu: xrandr would be your choice. google search "xrandr add display mode ubuntu" https://www.google.ch/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=xrandr+add+display+mode+ubuntu&btnG=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=115:17
NukienSorry to repeat ... Anyone here having trouble with 14.04 and php5/php5-fpm/mcrypt ? "php --ri mcrypt" shows it enabled, but phpinfo() doesn't, only showing the authors. roundcube can't log in, and phpmyadmin claims it's not enabled.15:18
minimecNightTrojan: I mean this will be quiet a good machine with these specs. I guess you would take 8GB RAM, maybe 16GB if you are doing heavy media work, like cutting a 2hours HD video recording...15:19
SlartNukien: perhaps there is a channel for php or web development where you might find more answers?15:19
Impleyay all ubuntu users!15:20
module000Nukien: make sure mcrypt is set to load in php.d or php.ini15:20
NightTrojan@minimec ill go with 8gb for 5 weeks, see how fast it goes, then go for 16gb15:20
NukienYeah, I'm looking. Thing is, it works fine in 13.10 - with a tweak, 13.10 puts mcrypt.ini in wrong dir, simple symlink fixes that15:20
NightTrojan@thanks mini appreciate it!15:20
NightTrojan@minimec15:21
Nukien14.04 puts it in right place.15:21
Nukienmodule000: Yup, it's enables, link is in /etc/php5/fpm/conf.d pointing to mcrypt.ini in /etc/php5/mods-available.  mcrypt.ini has correct "extension=mcrypt.so"15:22
Nukienphp --ri mcrypt shows that it's enabled, what ciphers etc.15:22
NukienYet a page with phpinfo() doesn't show it, only the line stating the authors - it's supposed to have it's own section showing ciphers15:23
module000Nukien: and you don't see it mentioned in apache(or whichever http daemon you are using)? if it's only partially loading you should get some output there15:23
module000Nukien: in the logs for your daemon i mean15:23
Nukienusing nginx15:23
minimecNightTrojan: Some people say, that you should buy the RAM in 'one block', as some manufactors do change little things during production batches. So the 'new' 8GB does not work well with the 'old' 8GB. Maybe ask your retailer...15:24
DestinyAwaitsCan someone help me with site not getting loaded properly problem15:24
holsteinDestinyAwaits: probably the creator of the site.. otherwise, you'll need more details15:24
minimecNightTrojan: You're welcome ;)15:24
DestinyAwaitsthrowing error net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED15:25
DestinyAwaitsholstein: its working now on my mobile15:25
MonkeyDustDestinyAwaits  which site?15:25
DestinyAwaitswait15:25
Nukienmodule000: no error msgs about php or fpm15:25
peterpacz1Swap Question - Installing swap on usb decreases lifespan of said usb, but is it ok if I install a swap partition on a portable hard disk (spinning platter)15:26
DestinyAwaitshttp://goo.gl/aDt6EU15:26
DestinyAwaitsthis sit15:26
DestinyAwaitse15:26
DestinyAwaitshttp://goo.gl/aDt6EU15:26
holsteinDestinyAwaits: the *normal* link, please15:26
DestinyAwaitsthe page is coming up but not the css etc15:26
DestinyAwaitshttps://egghead.io/15:27
holsteinDestinyAwaits: just the normal unshortened, non-hidden link please..15:27
DestinyAwaitswill that do?15:27
peterpacz1Would that be ok?15:27
DestinyAwaitsthe page is coming up but not the css and stuff15:27
holsteinDestinyAwaits: do you have all the requirements?15:27
DestinyAwaitsrequirements?15:27
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i suggest trying another browser.. something like the chrome browser15:28
DestinyAwaitsdone on chrome and firefox15:28
DestinyAwaitsnot working15:28
holsteinDestinyAwaits: works here15:28
DestinyAwaitsone question15:28
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DestinyAwaitsyes on my phone as well15:28
DestinyAwaits now working15:28
DestinyAwaitsfix15:28
DestinyAwaitsfine15:28
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dr_Webpeterpacz1: i have 16gb usb running ubuntu with swap partition it works well15:28
DestinyAwaitsin /etc/resolv.conf15:28
DestinyAwaitsnameserver 127.0.0115:29
holsteinDestinyAwaits: so, its just you, friend.. you should try as a different user, or maybe getting rid of cookies. and checking that you have all the requirements15:29
DestinyAwaitsis that correct15:29
DestinyAwaits?15:29
MrSw3d3nwhanna dual-boot 14.04 with W8 (oem installation on thinkpad x1), but 14.04 doesnt recognise te other os15:29
DestinyAwaitsholstein: nameserver 127.0.01 is it correct??15:29
DestinyAwaitsin /etc/resolv.cong15:29
holsteinDestinyAwaits: can you use the internet normalling from the machine? you are implying that only this site is problematic, and, is just not loading some elements15:29
DestinyAwaitsconf15:29
DestinyAwaitswhat is normalling??15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: this doesnt imply a networking issue, but, an issue loading those elements15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: ? its a typo15:30
DestinyAwaitslots of elemets are not coming up15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i meant, normally..15:30
ultm8hi everyone15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: "lots" on other sites? or just this site?15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: if so, its not a networkgin issue, or an issue with that site15:30
holsteinDestinyAwaits: above is a typo, that is intended to be "networking"*15:31
DestinyAwaitsholstein: Well this is showing the issue but am not sure but others will be effected too15:31
ultm8can anyone help me, be searching all day, tried everything and i cannot get my hdmi monitor working connected to my n46v asus laptop15:31
DestinyAwaitsholstein: nameserver 127.0.01 is it correct entry in /etc/resolv.conf ??15:31
DestinyAwaitsI don't find it correct15:31
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i use google nameservers or opendns15:32
DestinyAwaitsI find it issue about misconfiguration15:32
DestinyAwaitscan you give me the enteries ?15:32
holsteinDestinyAwaits: if so, you wouldnt be able to connect to sites.. is that true?15:32
DestinyAwaitsI want to try that out15:32
DestinyAwaitswell nameserver is set to 127.0.0115:32
DestinyAwaitsam not sure15:32
holsteinDestinyAwaits: if you have a nameserver issue, you woulndnt be able to connect to sites.. its that true?15:32
DestinyAwaitsyep15:32
newb_ubuntuHow do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.15:33
dr_Webhi. i just installed ubuntu 13.10 but i cannot lock scren usin ctrl+alt+l. Pls help15:33
DestinyAwaitsbut am not sure this is making me crazy15:33
DestinyAwaitsseriously15:33
holsteinDestinyAwaits: so, you cannot connect to or ping *anything? and you edit your networking config?15:33
ovrflw0xcan anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?15:33
DestinyAwaitsif you help me with DNS and nameserver I will be able to resolve it15:33
ultm8newb_ubuntu, you need to install the nvidia drivers15:33
holsteinDestinyAwaits: im trying my best, frient. if you want to change them, change them15:33
DestinyAwaitsholstein: sorry what is that?15:33
DestinyAwaitssure15:34
DestinyAwaitspls help me15:34
DestinyAwaitsam sure there is some problem with my config15:34
gHodr_Web: look: askubuntu.com/questions/126782/keyboard-shortcut-for-lockscreen-not-working15:34
holsteinDestinyAwaits: http://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/premium-dns/15:34
DestinyAwaitsthis site is coming up fine till yesterday15:34
OerHeksDestinyAwaits, site comes up, but css is a mess, not a dns issue then?15:34
OerHeksclear browser cache?15:34
dr_WebgHo. thanks15:34
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i dont think its a DNS issue.. if it were, you wouldnt be able to connect *at* *all* do the site15:34
tarelerulzholstein: Well, its not the mobile .  I installed it on Windows 7 and control it with my note 3 just fine.  It would seem Ubuntu don't work15:34
DestinyAwaitsOerHeks: bro I said it css but many others are not coming up15:34
DestinyAwaitsnot just css15:35
holsteintarelerulz: well, it would seem that chrome on ubuntu is not working15:35
DestinyAwaitsits like raw html getting loaded and rest are error15:35
holsteintarelerulz: let them know.. in my testing, i read that the linux version is limited in features15:35
tarelerulzReally limited as it don't work15:36
MonkeyDustDestinyAwaits  which browser? maybe it's a setting you have to un/check15:36
holsteintarelerulz: works for me.. how is it as another user?15:36
DestinyAwaitsholstein: one more thing the sites are loading pretty slow15:36
DestinyAwaitsits like dead slow15:36
DestinyAwaitseven google15:36
holsteinDestinyAwaits: the speed of loading is not related to DNS>. but, if you like, use the opendns settings i linked15:36
tarelerulzWell, You mean The normal user on Ubuntu or you mean different Google account15:36
DestinyAwaitsholstein: even the opendns site is not getting loaded fully15:37
holsteinDestinyAwaits: you can then rule that out, and move on to user config15:37
DestinyAwaitsonly html15:37
holstein208.67.222.222 208.67.220.22015:37
holstein^ open DNS name servers, DestinyAwaits15:37
DestinyAwaitsholstein: where is that?15:37
DestinyAwaitswhere to set DNS enteries15:38
D0minat0rubuntu 14.04, the session menu is gone? bug? i have installed gnome-shell but cannot get the button i had to choose which session to run15:38
holsteinDestinyAwaits: where you asked if you should change them15:38
holsteinDestinyAwaits: where they are linked to localhost, and you feel that is incorrect..15:38
DestinyAwaits/etc/resolv.conf??15:38
DestinyAwaitswhat is the value for nameserver15:38
DestinyAwaitsif not 127.0.0.115:38
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i just gave a linke to them, and listed them above15:39
holsteinDestinyAwaits: no one thinks you have a DNS issue, but if you want to try the openDNS nameservers, it wont hurt15:39
ovrflw0xwhat does doing "Suspend" from Ubuntu 14.04 do? suspend to RAM or DISK?15:39
minimecD0minat0r: Installing gnome-shell, did it also install 'gdm', and did you have to choose the login manager during install?15:39
MonkeyDustovrflw0x  suspend = to ram, hibernate = to disk15:40
holsteinovrflw0x: "suspend" should be ram.. hibernate is to disk..15:40
D0minat0rminimec: yup i did get to choose login manager15:40
gHoDestinyAwaits: get DNS name servers from your ISP.15:40
DestinyAwaitsholstein: this is my /etc/resolv.conf15:40
DestinyAwaits# Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)15:40
DestinyAwaits#     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN15:40
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DestinyAwaitsnameserver 127.0.0.115:40
holsteinDestinyAwaits: i saw it above.. and i dont think its a problem.. i agree with the message that is linked there, and above.. but, if you want to set them to openDNS, go for it15:40
ProhibitedUserSorry, but has anyone had trouble with Steam since installing Ubuntu 14.04?15:40
holsteinDestinyAwaits: you can at least rule that out, and move on.. since you seem to want to address the DNS server settings15:41
MonkeyDustDestinyAwaits  use !pastebin for long pastes15:41
DestinyAwaitsah ok15:41
DestinyAwaitsMonkeyDust: thx15:41
tarelerulzSo holstein  What do you mean try a different user ?15:41
minimecD0minat0r: So which one did you choose lightdm or gdm?15:41
DestinyAwaitshow to add the enteries in /ect/resolv.conf15:41
D0minat0rminimec: tried both15:42
DestinyAwaitsholstein: this site is also not coming up on raw html is loaded http://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/premium-dns/15:42
dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:42
DestinyAwaitsso its a system wide problem15:42
gHoDestinyAwaits: sudo echo nameserver x.x.x.x > /etc/resolv.conf15:42
holsteintarelerulz: i mean, the issue could be with your users config.. by loading up the guest user, you get to remove that config from the equation. if things are the same as the guest user, its system wide.. if things are fine as the guest user, the issue is in the user config (tyipcally)15:42
DestinyAwaitsgHo: do I have to append?15:43
SharkMa-sanmy laptop on docking station doesn't recognise the two connected monitors as separate monitors and only offers a resolution to span the view on both of the monitors. Is there a way to detect the monitors as separate monitors instead of one?15:43
debianto1userCould somebody provide me with information about openssl http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/utils/openssl15:43
DestinyAwaitsor overrite?15:43
minimecD0minat0r: If you temd to use gnome-shell as primary desktop manager, I would switch to gdm. I think it is better in combination with gnome-shell.15:43
holstein!info openssl15:43
ubottuopenssl (source: openssl): Secure Sockets Layer toolkit - cryptographic utility. In component main, is standard. Version 1.0.1f-1ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 468 kB, installed size 899 kB15:43
dbdii407I? having an issue. When I boot from the live CD, everything is fine. But afterwards, all I get is a blinking cursor and nothing happens. Cntl+Alt+f1 just causes it to beep a lot. And I can´t shift either15:43
debianto1user1.0.1a-f - are vulnerable to heartbleeding,15:43
D0minat0rhmmm now i do have somekinda menu but no gnome...this is getting strange gonna try reinstall gnome-shell15:43
SharkMa-sanprior to 13.10, monitors connected to the docking station wouldn't even work15:43
debianto1userWhy there is no up-version over the [f] ?15:43
holsteindbdii407: after you boot a live CD, and then install the OS?15:43
dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:44
DestinyAwaitsholstein: I have added the entry15:44
minimecD0minat0r: I would first try to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'15:44
dbdii407holstein: It? already installed, I tried to boot the system itself.15:44
DestinyAwaitsholstein: nameserver 208.67.222.22215:44
DestinyAwaitsholstein: now what15:44
DestinyAwaits?15:44
holsteinDestinyAwaits: test it, and rule out that the issue is dns related15:44
debianto1user@holstein, Is this vulnerable version? Should I upgrade to trusty?15:44
gHoDestinyAwaits: overwrite all DNS nameserver to DNS from your ISP (from ROUTER?)15:44
DestinyAwaitsholstein: no refresh or restart needed15:44
holsteindebianto1user: supported versions will get security patches15:44
holsteinDestinyAwaits: ? is that a question?15:45
debianto1user@holstein, I'm especially talking about heartbleed I'm under attack15:45
holsteinDestinyAwaits: if i were you, i would reboot. but, yes, you can restart networking, or relog, or reboot15:45
D0minat0rminimec: i tried that already three times15:45
SharkMa-sanI don't actually mind the view being on two monitors, but it's really annoying that maximising a program maximises it on both monitors15:45
holsteindebianto1user: you should confirm you have the patched version15:45
ovrflw0xcan anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?15:45
debianto1user# apt-show-versions openssl15:45
debianto1useropenssl:amd64/saucy-security 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.1 upgradeable to 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.215:45
debianto1userIS this 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.1 - vulnerable ?15:46
DestinyAwaitsholstein: gHo: guess what when I change the nameserver from 127.0.0.1 to 208.67.222.222 site is loading up and speed is good to load the site15:46
DestinyAwaitsYes15:46
DestinyAwaitsits working now15:46
dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:46
holsteinDestinyAwaits: cheers.. enjoy15:46
minimecD0minat0r: If you added a new user for a test? Just to see whether the desktop configuration is working with that new user?15:46
gHoDestinyAwaits: ;-)15:46
DestinyAwaitsholstein: but I have added one dns and there are 2 on the site15:46
DestinyAwaitshow to add15:46
holstein!dns15:47
DestinyAwaitsis it comma-seperated?15:47
ubottuTo set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html15:47
debianto1user@holstein, what do you mean? I have? I want to start upgrade to harden my system, But I can't find a-e-f[g], I can't find [g] - version of openssl in trusty15:47
debianto1usernot a saucy15:47
gHoDestinyAwaits: append OEF15:47
DestinyAwaitsgHo: what?15:48
gHoDestinyAwaits: sudo echo nameserver x.x.x.x >> /etc/resolv.conf15:48
dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:48
newb_ubuntuHow do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.15:48
holsteindebianto1user: i would check out http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-heartbleed-bug/1607 and make sure i have the patched version.. checking any and all other sources til im sure15:48
DestinyAwaitsgHo: so I can have two nameserver entries of two different IP's?15:48
DestinyAwaitsright??15:48
holstein!dns | DestinyAwaits15:48
ubottuDestinyAwaits: To set up a Domain Name Service see the !serverguide - https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/dns.html15:48
gHoDestinyAwaits: right15:48
DestinyAwaitsholstein: I opened that up didn't get a thing on /etc/reslov.conf15:49
DestinyAwaits:)15:49
DestinyAwaitsok15:49
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debianto1user@holstein, thx15:50
DestinyAwaitsok got it15:50
DestinyAwaitsholstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns-troubleshooting.html15:50
DestinyAwaitsthis page has it15:50
holsteinDestinyAwaits: ok. refer to it, and do what you like15:50
DestinyAwaitsholstein: gHo: Thanks brothers for helping me out.15:51
holsteinDestinyAwaits: did you reboot for the settings to take effect?15:52
gHoDestinyAwaits: no problem ;-)15:52
DestinyAwaitsholstein: reboot? no15:52
holsteinDestinyAwaits: if so, i think that was more relating to what "Fixed" your issue, rather than the dns settings..15:52
DestinyAwaitsit works without a reboot15:52
DestinyAwaitsholstein: didn't get it15:53
dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:53
DestinyAwaitsso it was no dns problem?15:53
holsteinDestinyAwaits: im implying i dont, and didnt think it was.. but enjoy, since its working15:53
tarelerulzWell, I loaded into guest and try to open chrome and  It does not even load up at all.  SO The whole idea of see if chrome desktop remote working in a different user is shot.15:54
DestinyAwaitsholstein: The site link you gave and the one I gave you egghead are not opening until I removed the nameserver 127.0.0.1 and add the two dns enteries15:54
DestinyAwaitsholstein: now the sites are loading fast and expected15:54
NRF19Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 via USB DVD, install works fine but on reboot I get stuck at boot screen - running boot repair hasn't fixed anything either, tried on 2 harddrive15:55
jimi_My canon printer is an all in one, it works as a printer, and it works as a printer over wifi, but the scan feature doesn't seem to be detected. Thoughts?15:55
NRF19Any advice?15:55
superpommeyo.15:56
holsteinjimi_: doenst work for me.. since i wasnt promised linux support for scanning, or printing, and i can get printing, i was pretty pleased15:56
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dusf123_i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?15:56
holsteinjimi_: you should let them know you would enjoy a scanning utility15:56
syeehi15:56
dusf123_and which device do i select for bootloader installation? the disk is sda, but i think efi is sda215:56
syeehttp://imgur.com/ajrRwdU15:56
holsteinNRF19: is it a grub issue? after install?15:56
superpommeA quoi sert ce chat ?15:56
syeewhen i shut down ubuntu it sticks on that screen15:57
tarelerulzholstein: What would you say is the next thing to try ?15:57
holsteinNRF19: i would try *not* installing updates and upgrades during the install, so the installed system is more *exactly* the same as the live version15:57
syeeand never shuts down15:57
gHoNRF19: firs check boot order in BIOS15:57
holsteintarelerulz: for?15:57
NRF19Not sure whether this is a system.  Failt15:57
dusf123_!swap15:57
holsteinNRF19: ^ i agree with the boot order, if you havent done so15:57
ubottuswap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info15:57
NRF19Checked that, the drive is install to is the main drive15:57
BosiHello everyone, I have a American keyboard and I'm trying to make it work for Portuguese. For example ' + C = Ç, or ' + e = é. How do I do that?15:58
NRF19Also try F12 boot menu and it doesn't work, just gets held up15:58
tarelerulzI'm trying to get chrome reomte desktop to work on Ubuntu.  The whole changing to guest did not work.  I could not open chrome period.  I got to open and nothing would happen15:58
NRF19And then asks to insert boot cd agaib15:58
gHoBosi: dpkg-reconfigure console-data15:59
spacebug^Anyway to get vmware-tools vmhgfs module working under 14.04? (Host Windows 8.1 pro, client Ubuntu 14.04)15:59
NRF19Gets stuck on verifying dmi pool data16:00
syeehttp://imgur.com/ajrRwdU16:00
syeecan someone help me?16:00
BosigHo, it says console-data is not installed nor available16:00
jimi_holstein, ah, i was able to get it working using a source package from canon for 1 series different from mine it appears16:01
gHoBosi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration16:01
rol_is it normal that when i do ls (hd0,gpt2) instead of seeing my linux image, it just gives me filesystem type,date last used and its uuid ? (system cannot boot, so i'm troubleshooting )16:01
NRF19Any tips as to what I can try next?16:03
BosigHo, then what? I mean my keyboard is a PC (Intl. Generic, 105 keys) ... but I want to make it work for the Portuguese language. when ~ + a = ã, you got what I'm saying?16:04
ssssss16:07
NRF19What's best file system to clean install on?16:07
NRF19For Ubuntu16:07
holsteinNRF19: "best" is always a matter of opiniona nd use case.. use the defaults16:07
kostkonNRF19, ext4, the default choice16:08
NRF19Cool, I'm going to try another install16:08
ssswhat's best editor free for developers16:08
sss?16:08
minimecBosi: Go to /etc/default/keyboard and do the changes there. Afterwards do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'16:09
OerHeks!ide | sss pick your choice16:09
ubottusss pick your choice: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator16:09
ovrflw0xhow can I get "ubuntu 14.04" like "exact" font redering under 'Arch Linux'? in browsers in thunderbird etc etc16:09
gast__1How can I configure the indicator under Unity 2D to show the reboot option?16:09
OerHeksovrflw0x, that depends on the browser itself16:10
sssubottu, your favorite ?16:11
ubottusss: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:11
ovrflw0xOerHeks, using Firefox16:11
clue_hthe bot does not mention nano, that needs to be fixed16:11
ovrflw0xOerHeks, ?16:11
OerHeksovrflw0x, so firefox on Arch renders different than FF on ubuntu?16:12
sssubottu , what's bot?16:12
ubottuI am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)16:12
OerHeks!best| sss16:12
OerHeksoh that factoid is removed, there is no single best16:13
ovrflw0xOerHeks, can i Just "copy" the font directory in ubuntu and transfer all fonts to arch linux to get same rendering?16:13
OerHeksovrflw0x, no, you would get the same fonts16:13
sss?16:14
OerHeksthe rendering engine is inside FF16:14
ssswhat's bot ?16:14
holsteinsss: most folks just use a text editor.. you should just load up options from the repos, and try them16:14
ovrflw0xOerHeks, which is the redering engine?16:14
holsteinsss: a bot is just that. a "robot". not a person.. ubottu is not a person16:14
sssthanks16:15
holstein!ide16:15
ubottuProgramming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, qtcreator16:15
holsteinsss: ^16:15
OerHeksovrflw0x, again: the rendering engine is inside FF16:15
ovrflw0xso what to do16:15
OerHeksso it would be the same.16:15
ovrflw0xOerHeks, so what do i need ?16:16
OerHeksovrflw0x, i dont know, just pointing at that ff is has the render engine, so it should not be different on arch/ubuntu16:17
ovrflw0xbut i need Fonts which should they be?16:17
sssbye16:17
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chipotleif i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?16:21
ChuoHey guys, any ideas why I can't execute .sh .run or files without extension on nautilus after changing permissions? The pointer wheel spins but doesn't do anything, any way I can check this on terminal?16:23
veryhappyhey guys, can't I install bluetooth for my mobile phone that i can search files on it in nautilus?16:23
clue_hChuo, does it have execution permissions16:24
veryhappyand which package would that be?16:24
Chuoclue_h: As i said I had already changed the permission on the properties dialogue16:24
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MonkeyDustveryhappy  try blueman (bluetooth manager)16:25
clue_hto run it from the terminal,  it's    ./script.sh16:25
Chuoclue_h: I wan't to figure out why it won't execute in nautilus, fglrx runs in terminal but not in nautilus16:27
clue_hChuo, i'm not certain but i think some programs like that are entirely terminal based16:28
Caelumrecently my cinnamon started constantly freezing on trusty, I'm using the saucy stable release from the gwendal ppa16:29
Caelumthe mouse moves, music continues playing, but I can't click on anything16:30
Chuoclue_h: I don't think so because I have run it before from nautilus in 12.04 and after I run it in terminal it still opens a graphical interface16:30
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ChuoBy the way I had to select execute program from the menu of apps that can open the file otherwise it kept trying to use gedit16:33
Caelumit looks like there's no official cinnamon packages for trusty?16:33
kostkon!find cinnamon16:34
ubottuFile cinnamon found in gamgi-data, mate-themes, muffin-common, openclipart2-png, openclipart2-svg, tdiary-theme16:34
Caelumwhat could cause it to freeze up and not respond to clicks, I tried a couple different releases from the ppa16:35
trismCaelum: no it was deleted in january because it was removed from debian testing16:36
Caelumtrism: I see16:36
rvdvwhy phpmyadmin complaining about mcryp not being loaded ... I have it installed ... puting extension=mcrypt.so in php.ini gives me apache complaining about wanting the module ssl enabled ...16:37
rvdvrolling this back ca not get appache without ssl running anymore16:38
Caelumwhy do you care if ssl is enabled if you aren't using it?16:38
rvdvapache complains16:38
rvdvI do not want it16:38
rvdvapache wants it ... but i do not know why ... because the module is disabled16:39
mmiller13does anyone knows how to scrape an hd16:39
Coded1mmiller13: what do you mean by scrape?16:39
Tophmmiller13,,, scrape or scrap?16:39
mmiller13recovery scrape16:40
Coded1huh?16:40
Caelumyou want to find information on the filesystem?16:40
mmiller13recover data thats lost16:40
Caelumwas it deleted or did the drive die?16:41
Coded1what filesystem?  ext3/ext4/btrfs?16:41
ChuoGuys how do I install this shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6 a game is giving me the error16:42
Coded1http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/16:42
CaelumChuo: it's probably a 32 bit game and you need the i386 libs packages for it16:43
mmiller13a raid level was change16:43
xubuntu215hey guys / I have a question, first still, I do not speak English, so I would like to play the game on linux -> http://ygopro.de/, downloaded and tried to start with wine, but I get an error that I NETFramework 4 client need, I can instalieren about wine, or any other tips?16:44
gareppaChuo: that file is inside a library, libstdc++ for example install it from synaptic or install that game directly from synaptic16:44
Coded1xubuntu215: try "winetricks"16:44
Mattmax059Hello, all. Im getting this error message upon trying to change my screen resolution: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface16:45
xubuntu215@coded116:46
xubuntu215I tried, but I have a 64bit version16:46
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ChuoI have this installed http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/libstdc++-4.8-dev do I need another version? what's the name for the i386 libs one? the one I found primus-libs-ia32:i38616:47
xubuntu215??'16:48
penguin42CHo: Take the -dev off the end and add :i38616:49
gareppaChuo: apt-get install lib32stdc++616:49
gareppawell, the 6 maybe another number16:49
robbieI am getting a boot error (after grub) with ¨diskfilter writes are not supported¨. I dont have any raid but I have SSDs.16:50
robbiethe error isn´t blocking, it comes right up. But not right away. how can I resolve the issue16:51
Coded1xubuntu215: you can try downloading the .Net you need from MS and run that from wine16:52
Coded1but I don't think it should matter16:52
schtinkytrying to download 14.04 on a core i5 and the website keeps trying to make download ...AMD.iso when I select "64-bit"... obviously I can go get the i386 version, but is that the low RAM version?16:53
schtinkyshould I really be using the AMD version for my core i5?16:53
clue_hhow much ram do you have16:53
Coded1schtinky: yup the AMD64 is the one you want16:53
schtinky416:53
schtinkyreally? that's confusing16:53
clue_hit confused me too a while back16:54
schtinkyok thanks clue_h and coded116:54
Coded1Intel owns the 32 bit commands and AMD owns the 64 bit commands16:54
Coded1they both run both though16:54
ikoniathat is just lies16:54
ikoniaintel and amd own nothing16:54
Coded1Intel owns the x86 commands16:55
ikoniathey do not own anything16:55
Coded1if you say so16:55
penguin42ikonia: I think you'll find there is a set of licensing on them16:55
ikoniathey do not "own" them16:55
ikoniathey created/license the insturction set16:56
robbieI imagine there is no confusion about them both owning the irght to use the isntructions16:56
kostkonxubuntu215, add the wine ppa and then install wine-mono4.5.216:56
Coded1so they own the instruction sets then?16:56
ikoniaeven thats a slim description16:56
kostkonxubuntu215, is it a game that you download on your pc or do yhou play it online16:57
Coded1cool16:57
KamarisDoes anyone here have any experience with 14.04/Unity running x11vnc showing a black screen to the client connection? The mouse is active and you can interact with the host screen, but nothing displays. I'm running it on Virtualbox at present, and I'm unsure if that is the limiting factor and there would be no issue on a prod, headless system. x11vnc also has the -noxdamage flag used. Any suggestions so I can continue testing i16:57
robbieI am getting a boot error (after grub) with ¨diskfilter writes are not supported¨... boots right up after a pause. I dont have any raid but I have SSDs: any idea what to do? I read something about changing something in fstab here: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=11196.0 but that appears to apply to raids.16:57
xubuntu215@kostkon yes16:58
kostkonxubuntu215, local or online?16:58
denysonique_Anyone had a smiliar issue before?16:59
denysonique_dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/compizconfig-settings-manager_1%3a0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):16:59
denysonique_ trying to overwrite '/usr/share/ccsm', which is also in package libunity-core-6.0-9 7.2.0+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu116:59
xubuntu215Kostkon,  Online in a Launcher16:59
kostkonxubuntu215, it might be a silverlight game then16:59
denysonique_I get this when trying # apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager16:59
robbiestrangely, deleteing /boot/grub/grubenv makes it go away for 1 reboot, but after that the error is back17:00
kostkonxubuntu215, so you probably need to install pipelight17:00
xubuntu215you can write to me privately? please17:00
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nullbyte_who runs skype in 14.04lts?17:01
xubuntu215@kostkon I tried to start the game, but it told me it needs 4.net framework client.17:01
gareppame17:01
nullbyte_gareppa: how?17:02
kostkonxubuntu215, yeah try installing pipelight http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/pipelight-026-released-with.html  it will add silveright support to your browser17:02
gareppaskype icon appear and disappear on system trash17:02
gareppanullbyte_: i installed it from partners repository in 13.10 prior to upgrade17:02
robbiedo llvm partitions in fstab need 0 1 set for <dump> and <pass> ?17:02
xubuntu215sure?17:02
nullbyte_ok17:02
kostkonxubuntu215, about what17:03
ikoniarobbie: they don't "need" either17:03
ikoniarobbie: it's your choice.17:03
robbieI mean entries like: UUID=17:03
sixwheeledbeastminimec: thank you, I had to copy back ~160 GB of /home/user from /home/user-bak :) but I have my panels back.17:03
johndropperDuel boot is a thing of the past I guess17:03
robbieikonia: thanks .. you think that is true even if it is a raid or ssd?17:03
johndropperDual boot doesn't work anymore17:03
ikoniarobbie: raid/ssd it doesn't matter,17:04
ikoniarobbie: it's your choice17:04
robbiejohndropper: since upgrading 14.04?17:04
Haswellanyone know if proprietary drivers of AMD radeon have been banned from Ubuntu? I was using them in ubuntu 12.04 until now two months ago, and in an update I lost that driver. Now I can't play OpenArena. My graphic card, radeon HD 4670.17:04
ikoniaHaswell: they have not been banned17:04
kostkonxubuntu215, is this the download page http://ygopro.de/de/?page_id=1217:04
johndropperI tried it with 14 but it would recognize my windows 817:04
johndropperI did every said from every forum17:04
robbieikonia: do you know where I can read about "diskfilter writes are not supported"  ?17:04
xubuntu215@kostkon yes bro!!!17:05
ikoniawhat do you mean read about it ? there are a ton of bugs logged about it17:05
robbiejohndropper: are you drunk? :)17:05
Jordan_Ujohndropper: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".17:05
johndropperLol17:05
johndropperI dont have ubuntu17:05
johndropperLol17:05
robbieikonia: I cant find much. I am getting that error each boot. deleting "/boot/grub/grubenv" fixes it for 1 reboot only.17:05
ikoniarobbie: there are LOTS of bugs logged about it17:06
kostkonxubuntu215, ok, then add the wine ppa, install wine1.7 and wine-mono4.5.217:06
robbieikonia: Im not looking for bugs Im looking for documentation - if the error is in there there aught to be documentation about it somewhere17:06
kostkonxubuntu215, and hope that it will work17:06
johndropperThanks tho17:06
Jordan_Ujohndropper: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".17:06
ikoniarobbie: documentation about the error ??? that is a bug17:06
kostkonxubuntu215, chances are slim imo17:06
Haswellikonia, the drivers have not been banned. ok. Then what explanation do you have for losing the drivers in an update?17:07
xubuntu215kostkon I tried it. but it does not so17:07
ikoniaHaswell: no idea what you're talking about17:07
robbieikonia: I am looking for documentation about the error code that is reported. An error code should be documented somewhere.17:07
ikoniarobbie: yes, it's documented in the bug reports17:07
robbieikonia: no I mean documentation for ubuntu17:08
SRI_nazihi there, i want to install ubuntu in the root partion and keep the home partion seperate..i want to know if again want to install another version of ubuntu the home partion will be intact right?? :)17:08
kostkonxubuntu215, then there's not much you could do, other than using windows17:08
Jordan_Urobbie: It's a bug with an Ubuntu specific patch relating to the recordfail feature.17:08
ikoniarobbie: yes, there are ubuntu bugs17:08
piovisquiI've update to 14.04 and the Xorg server is eating all CPU. How can I debug it?17:08
xubuntu215kostkon, that must function but17:08
robbieJordan_U thank you17:08
ikoniaas I keep saying it's documented in the bug17:08
ikonia(bugs)17:08
robbiewell a bug report isnt documentation at all17:08
xanguaSRI_nazi: if you don't format it, yes it will be intact17:08
xubuntu215kostkon, winetricks ?17:08
xanguaSRI_nazi: asuming your /home is on a separate partition17:09
johndropperYeah guys I quit17:09
robbiean error code without documentation is useless, they should jsut remove it17:09
kostkonxubuntu215, oh yes, give it a try17:09
ikoniarobbie: what part of "it's documented in the bug report" can you not grasp17:09
SRI_nazixubuntu215, will it automatically mount on startup17:09
Jordan_Urobbie: That feature requires writing to /boot/grub/grubenv from grub, which isn't safe to do from grub when said file is on a RAID array (diskfilter).17:09
ikoniarobbie: the error is VERY useful, as it explains the proble and allows people (as Jordan_U has just shown) to find the problem17:09
robbieikonia: don't pick a fight with me, jsut listen and try to understand, or do something else17:09
xubuntu215 I hope not :3417:09
ikoniarobbie: no - you listen, it IS documented, so complaining that it's not documented is wrong17:10
ikoniaJordan_U: looks like it also hits LVM17:10
robbieikonia: I'd like to see documentation then. Not ambiguous references to unspecificed bugs17:10
ikoniaor any layer between device - $something - filesysstem17:10
xubuntu215kostkon, with winetricks maybe I could trick the program or as17:10
SRI_nazixangua, yes in a seperate partion...will automatically mount on startup17:10
xubuntu215bypass ???'17:10
ikoniarobbie: if you read the bugs it explains it in pretty good detail17:10
kostkonxubuntu215, no, use it to install the .net libs17:11
dee_Anybody want to help me real quick?17:11
xubuntu215what if I write myself tion program? and thus net to bypass?$17:11
dee_I tried to upgrade Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 and messed something up where it doesn't boot. I made a 14.04 USB drive to reinstall but first I want to back up my home folder but whenever I try that I get an error saying permission denied17:11
xubuntu215yes -> NET-Bibliotheken installieren17:11
OerHeksdee_, ask your real question and be patient17:11
xubuntu215that's what makes problems17:11
SRI_nazixangua, will it automatically mount at the startup17:11
robbieikonia: yeah? that's great. But I mean the software itself as to have documentation including error codes. That is what I imagine I need.17:11
ikoniarobbie: what software ?17:12
robbieikonia: it is the recordfail feature, I hear17:12
NightTrojan@dee_ make sure you enter "/"17:12
xanguaSRI_nazi: just remember to use your same user (and password if it is encypted)17:12
ikoniarobbie: it's a patch17:12
ikoniarobbie: and it's documented in the patch17:12
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robbieikonia: are patches software?17:12
ikoniarobbie: which the bugs I keep telling you to read point at17:12
robbiewell what is the patch? if that is where the documentation is, I just need its url17:12
ikoniarobbie: depends how you want to word it, patches contain "code" but on their own, software, no17:12
ikoniathis is pointless17:13
dee_When I use the cp command to coppy it, the terminal says "ommitting /home"17:13
xubuntu215it will work, and if I have to write a program itself, the only thing I have to do is to bypass net, "to deceive"17:13
robbieikonia: if you can, I'd appreciate the url to the patch so I can read the documentation...17:13
ikoniarobbie: it's not that simple17:13
ikoniaif you read the bugs as I keep telling you - it explains the problem17:13
robbieikonia: that's why I needed some help17:13
ikoniarobbie: what do you want to happen ?17:13
robbieikonia: you never gave a url to anything specific17:13
ikoniarobbie: do you want a fix ?17:14
NormalGoose@Dee_ make a fresh drive install and re-download through ubuntu's website17:14
SRI_nazixangua, i not sure wheather i understand, will it auto mount at startup or should i do manually mount it17:14
robbieikonia that would be nice .. but Im kinda doubting it is that simple17:14
Jordan_Urobbie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/127432017:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1274320 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error: diskfilter writes are not supported" [Medium,Confirmed]17:14
ikoniarobbie: ok, so at the moment there is no "fix" for it, it looks like a fix will be released17:14
dee_I already have a flashdrive ready, I just want to backup my home folder first17:14
ikoniarobbie: so sit tight and wait for the fix to be pushed out17:14
simaI wonder. Will my 8600GT continue to work if I upgrade from (X)Ubuntu 13.10 64bit to 14.04 LTS? I use Nvidia proprietary driver distributed by Ubuntu and I failed in installing Nvidia driver manually, previously.17:14
simasince I have trouble with FX5200 on one 32-bit laptop with 14.04 , it works only with nouveau  and sometimes it fails to boot right.17:15
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xubuntu215fuck it17:16
robbieJordan_U: thanks again. I actually read that before coming here but it is nice to see t again. Notice that that problem is for raids? in the thread there, someone suggests changing <dump> and <pass> for raid partitions to 0 1 from 0 0 ... and another thread suggest that it worked for them. But I don't have any raid17:16
ikoniarobbie: it's not just raid17:16
ikoniarobbie: tht's why I keep saying there are "many" bug reports for it17:17
ikoniarather than just one that suggests just one situation17:17
SRI_nazihey if i create a seprate partion for home dir in my ubuntu system will it automatically mount at the startup17:17
Jordan_Urobbie: Do you use LVM or btrfs?17:17
robbieikonia: the bug report Joran_U gave me was a problem specific to raids17:17
robbieJordan_U: LVM17:17
Jordan_Urobbie: That is the issue then.17:17
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ikoniarobbie: this is why I didn't link you to 1 bug - and keep saying "there are MULTIPLE" bugs for it17:18
ikoniarobbie: because there are various situations that can trigger it17:18
NF19having install  issues with ubuntu - can install from dvd but on reboot get verifying DMI pool data failure insert system disc17:18
alaingI'm running ubuntu server on a spare machine at home17:18
robbieJordan_U: okay. looking at comment #5 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320/comments/5 ¥ do you think that this might work for LVM as well as raids ¥ like changing UUID entries that way?17:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1274320 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Error: diskfilter writes are not supported" [Medium,Confirmed]17:19
NF19I just inserted a windows 7 disc and it launced ubuntu17:19
alaingi'm having problems with permission with a CMS that I'm using17:19
suoreHi17:19
NF19primary bios boot device is the HDD17:19
suorei have preoblem with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS17:19
NF19any pointers?17:19
alaingI know my apache server is using user www-data and user group www-data17:19
suorei have blur effect17:19
suore..17:19
NightTrojan@suore Welcome17:19
alaingI've just noticed that my /var/www is displaying my username for both owner and group17:19
robbieJordan_U: there is another page elsewhere where someone points out that the solution in comment#5 worked for them. thats why I ask17:19
alaingis this correct?17:19
gareppayeah, uppgrading messed up my apache installation too, i'll have to figure it out...17:19
alaingshouldn't it be www-data?17:19
ikoniaalaing: change it17:20
Jordan_Urobbie: I don't see how that could have an effect either way.17:20
alaingI've noticed the /var/www/ files and folders mainly have my username:group and some have root:root17:20
suorei have global blur  effect i usualy all is not readable i uplaoding video17:20
alaingdrwxrwxrwx+ 20 thelaings thelaings  4096 Apr 18 20:50 www17:20
Jordan_Urobbie: Do you realize that the error message doesn't actually prevent booting?17:20
suorei hope its recorded corectly17:20
robbieJordan_U: yeah. Honestly I dont use Linux much anymore, Im doing this for my dad. He sees the error message and wants it fixed.17:21
suoreand i have 2 times nvidia-settings xD17:22
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NightTrojan@suore you don't think it's because you have 2 settings for Nvidia do you?17:22
dee_I'm booted off of a Ubuntu flashdrive right now and I'm trying to copy the home directory of my broken Ubuntu install. When I copy and paste is says "permission denied!"17:23
OerHeksdee copy to where ?17:23
NightTrojan@dee_ don't copy it then?17:23
suoreNightTrojan, nope at dashboard i have 2x NVIDIA X Server Settings17:23
OerHeksdee_, we need more information to give any answer17:23
dee_@OerHeks to my other HDD that I have Windows installed on17:23
Jordan_Urobbie: If you add the following to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (create it if it doesn't already exist) it should "disable" recordfail and stop the error, but this is entirely untested: function recordfail { true; } #Suggested as a work around by Jordan_U in #ubuntu, remove once the bug is properly fixed.17:23
suorebut only 1x its installl nvidia-settings -.-17:23
dee_@OerHeks what other information17:24
NightTrojan@suore I recommend reinstalling17:24
suoreNightTrojan, reinstalling of what?17:24
NF19think I've found my problem boot repair says that  'The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them.' how would I resolve this?17:24
OerHeksdee_, doe you see files in your windows partition? is it encrypted ?17:24
NF19I'm booted into ubuntu now17:24
robbieJordan_U: that is condensing Quesar's idea right? I was just looking at that. thank you17:25
suorewhat about bluring after install of nvidia drivers?17:26
ikoniarobbie: your best option is to just wait for a fix to be pushed out17:26
BeldarNF19, Post a link from the bootinfo summary generated by using the bootrepair app.17:26
Discordian_So Ubuntu 14.04 didn't recognize my A10 APU so after installation it went to low-graphics mode and I wasn't able to pick options or chose anything, the solution was to go to the terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and install fglrx17:26
dee_OerHeks, neither partition is encypted. From what I read the /home folder has a special permission of 000 but don't know how to get past that17:26
NF19Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/17:26
ikoniarobbie: you may end up doing damage putting work arounds in17:26
Jordan_Urobbie: Someone else may have had the idea also. I haven't looked at the bug report recently and came up with this fix on my own. The nicw thing about it is that (unlike modifying anything in /etc/grub.d/) it shouldn't cause any problems with upgrades.17:27
NightTrojan@suore drivers!17:27
BeldarNF19, Is the sda HD the first read in the bios?17:28
NF19yeah17:28
robbieikonia, Jordan_U: thank you both17:28
OerHeksdee_, dont copy your /home/* but  cd /home/<username>/ and copy *17:28
NF19even when I try F12 to bring up primary boot menu and select sda drive it still doesn't work - only way to boot in seems to be to put any disc in the usb disc drive I have17:28
NF19however I'm wanting to move this PC back into the cupboard (away from monitors - managed via rdp) once setup so this won't be possible17:29
Jordan_U!bootinfo | NF1917:29
ubottuNF19: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).17:29
OerHeksNF19 my bios has 2 entrys to set when i want to boot, hdd order and bootdevice, check hdd order17:30
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NF19HDD order also good17:30
BeldarJordan_U, here is nf19's boot info, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/17:30
NF19the drive I want is the first in there - I'll check out boot info17:30
dee_OerHeks, I get "omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’"17:30
OerHeksdee_, that looks like your iso, not writable17:31
kristenbbwhich package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?17:31
dee_OekHeks, thats where my flashdrive mounted the HDD with the broken Linux build on it17:32
dee_OekHeks, I typed " omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’ "17:34
NF19by the looks on it I think I need to seperate out my boot partition - this means nothing to me though17:34
dee_OekHeks "cp /media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/dee /media/xubuntu/COMPAQ/Backup" *17:34
NF19message from boot repair (The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition))17:34
Jordan_UNF19: That actually doesn't seem like it would help to me, at least with the symptoms you've described.17:35
ovrflw0xhow can I get "ubuntu 14.04" like "exact" font redering under 'Arch Linux'? in browsers in thunderbird etc etc17:36
NF19right, any other things you think I should try? All this was caused by a power outage yesterday (have tested all HDD's in another PC) decided to clean install as I've been having some issues with certain packages wanted to tidy upo a bit :(17:36
NF19been trying to figure this out since this morning17:36
mastercasterhi, I installed eclipse17:37
excalibrwhat's with the grub screen in 14.04? i see black background with small purple screen in the front of it17:37
suorehttps://www.dropbox.com/s/5wek1typ31xiv1o/212.mkv download video - bluring problem :(17:38
suorehow o repair17:38
Jordan_UNF19: Which of your drives are internal?17:39
NF19all17:40
dee_OekHek, nevermind the installer allowed me to keep my personal files so I don't have to worry about that17:40
NF19so SDA. SDB. SDC17:40
mastercasterhi, I installed eclipse  on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i dont know how to update it. if i start it normally I dont have rights to update and if I start it as root I cannot update. Also I can only install the Android Dev Kit as root (obviously) but then if i start eclipse as a  normal user, I cannot start the android dev perspective. Can someone advise me please how this is supposed to work out?17:40
NF19only usb-cd drive is external17:40
Jordan_UNF19: I wonder if your BIOS is simply not waiting long enough for your drives to spin up.17:41
NF19off to go eat - I'll pick up any responses shortly.17:41
NF19BIOS detects the drives does an IDE scan and shows the 317:41
tonesfrommarsHi all, trying to upgrade from 12LTS to 14LTS, got 'could not calculate upgrade' error. Found this is in dist.upgrade/main.log: 2014-04-19 10:32:31,775 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' Any tips on how to proceed?17:42
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Beldartonesfrommars, The lts upgrade is in july to start with.17:43
dcmghey how can i change the key mapping of my keyboard temporarily ?17:43
tonesfrommarshaha, ok. thnx Beldar17:44
dcmgwe not keymapping, i need to make a German umlaut17:44
dcmgwell *17:44
nikomoAnyone here have any personal all-in-one device recommendations that work great in Ubuntu? I know HP has good support, but specific recommendations would be great. The printer part also needs to be laser, not inkjet.17:44
nikomoI'm moving my parents to Ubuntu on their secondary computer17:45
xangua!printer | nikomo17:45
ubottunikomo: Printing in Ubuntu is done with cups. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Printers - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters - http://linuxprinting.org - Printer sharing: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkPrintingWithUbuntu17:45
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nikomoAware of that, but personal recommendations always trump catch-all wiki pages, if anyone has recommendations.17:45
Chuo!paste17:46
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.17:46
one23Is it hard to cleani17:46
cha0zhello, does the upgrade to 14.04 will affect my full encrypted ubuntu setup?17:47
one23Is it hard to clean up after Playonlinux?17:47
ChuoHey guys I installes gksu to open nautilus as sudo but it gives me an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285625/ and no idea why the output says dropbox17:48
Tupladabout to do a clean install, only saving /home and /media ... running ubuntu 12 LTS, is there anything I should backup in / ?17:48
sevauk2test17:48
DX099hello, has anyone encountered nm-connection-editor bug where it SIGSEGV whenever you try to import an openvpn config file ?17:48
basketballhow do you uninstall a program from terminal17:51
basketballnever mind17:51
deekejsudo apt-get remove <program-name>17:51
Judas-how do I tell which version of ubuntu I'm running from a terminal?17:52
gustavoHi17:52
gustavoHi17:52
DX099Judas-, lsb_release -rd17:52
basketballJudas-,  lsb_release -a17:53
j4sonJudas-: cat /etc/lsb-release17:53
j4sonalso works17:53
Judas-ah, natty - thanks :)17:53
gustavoHi, I just installed Xubuntu 14.0417:53
rbfexit17:53
deekejpersonally, I'm using: cat /etc/*-release17:54
ndanduthello sir , can i question?17:54
Fetentone#ubuntu-it-chat17:54
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rbfquit17:54
kdsebastianhi guys17:55
kdsebastiani need help17:55
ndandutmy notebook processor suport 64 bit , but my ram just 2gb. then when i download ubuntu chose 64bit or 32 bit?17:56
fenomenpizdec kakoj-to17:56
fenomenrussians here?17:56
Judas-ndandut: I would pick 64 bit17:56
kdsebastiandid anybody tried to install bootrepair by yannubuntu ppa17:56
lucahello17:56
ndandutJudas-: my processor amd c-60 , then chose 64bit sir?17:57
Beldarkdsebastian, Many have what is the issue?17:58
Judas-ndandut: correct - you should only pick 32 bit if your processor doesn't support it or that you need 32 bit for some compatibility software reason17:58
kdsebastiani did try to install it using terminal on my freshly installed ubuntu 14.04 but error showing unable to find the app17:58
Beldarkdsebastian, Did you add the ppa, run a update than try to install?17:58
Beldarkdsebastian, Notice when I speak to you I start with your nick, nicks can be tab completed.17:59
xanguakdsebastian: the repositody you mention doesn't have packages candidates for 14.04 https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair17:59
ndandutJudas-: many thanks sir17:59
ndandutJudas-: im wrong download 32 bit :(17:59
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NF19Hi, I'm back18:00
NF19Jordan_U: Not sure whatelse to try beyond what boot repair recommended?18:01
Jordan_UNF19: Can you be at a grub shell and on IRC at the same time (with another machine)?18:02
NF19nope - I'm using the ethernet/monitor cable from my other PC18:03
kristenbbwhich package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?18:04
popcanhey can i get some help with my xubuntu desktop environment locking me out of my ubuntu18:05
sixwheeledbeasthmm, on a similar topic. how can I move minimise/maximise/close? seems apps/metacity is missing in gconf-editor18:05
Jordan_UNF19: Does just having the external CD drive plugged in with a CD allow Ubuntu to boot, or do you actually need to tell the BIOS to try to boot from CD?18:07
os_osiù18:08
popcani installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu18:08
wolfslord_I was trying to upgrade from Saucy to Trusty and power went out. Now I can't access the release upgrade tool. How shoul I proceed?18:08
NF19Jordan_U: with  a CD in it seems to allow ubuntu to boot18:08
Beldarpopcan, The channel help is based in a detailed description of the issue.18:08
minimecsixwheeledbeast: Happy to see that it works now. ;)18:08
NF19without instruction18:08
Jordan_UNF19: Is the CD drive first in the boot order?18:09
NF19nope18:09
NF19choice of 3 devices all set to HDD18:10
NF19HDD 1 is SDA drive18:10
kristenbbwhich package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?18:10
xanguawolfslord_: I would backup and reinstall18:10
Beldarkristenbb, what release is this?18:10
kristenbbBeldar: 14.0418:10
vandoriusanyone knows if ubuntu one is installed in ubuntu studio 14,04?18:11
Jordan_UVampire0: Ubuntu One is being discontinued.18:11
wolfslord_xangua: How can I backup? Never did it.18:11
Vampire0Jordan_U, so?18:11
kristenbbBeldar: how does it relate to my question ?18:13
popcan i installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu18:14
Beldarkristenbb, dconf-editor I believe I can't find exactly where, we have seen a bug here in changing form left to right the buttons.18:14
kristenbbBeldar: yes, I filed in a bug, but I am asked what package it belongs to18:14
Beldarpopcan, auto login goes to the last desktop run.18:14
k1l_kristenbb: file it against unity-tweak-tool if that setting in that tool does not work18:14
kristenbbBeldar: will it get less attention though ?18:15
lalalala?18:15
kristenbbBeldar: sorry, wrong person18:15
Beldarheh cool.18:15
kristenbbk1l_: will it get less attention though ?18:15
NF19Jordan_U: I'm going to give the boot repair recommendation a try as I can't find anything else to try. If it fails I'll pop back on in a bit.18:15
popcanbeldar it goes strait to xubun‎tu i want to go back to ubuntu18:15
jcstarkengood morning I can not add a repository in software manager +add button is not clickable18:16
k1l_kristenbb: its not about attention. this is not a casting show. file the bug to that package which didnt act right18:16
Beldarpopcan, turn of auto log, boot to ubuntu and turn it on.18:16
k1l_kristenbb: if the unity-tweak-tool developer fixes the setting you are fine, or?18:16
phaoI've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?18:17
popcanbeldar how do i turn off auto login from xubuntu18:17
kristenbbk1l_: yes sure, but if the developer of that tool just has a GUI interface, it's not his fault if the underlying mechanism doesn't work18:17
Beldarpopcan, How, and in what desktop did you turn it on?18:17
popcanubuntu18:17
k1l_kristenbb: then he will tell that in the bug system and will redirect it18:17
popcanbeldar when i installed ubuntu it asked me if i wanted to auto login instead of password18:18
kristenbbok18:18
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popcanbeldar thats when i made it auto log in18:18
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Beldarpopcan, Not sure here, be really careful as to the info you post, your second post reads the opposite of what you say now, as the autolog started in ubuntu.18:20
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fballemgood afternoon all.18:21
leuApodo2hi18:21
leuApodo2anyone there?18:21
fballemyup18:21
leurianyes im here18:21
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popcanbeldar i said that i turned ON auto log in from ubuntu BUT i switched to xubuntu desktop environment , sooo now when i try to go back to ubuntu it auto logs me into xubuntu18:22
Beldarpopcan, I can't help you, in the end.18:24
Beldarsomeone will though who can18:24
popcancan someone help me switch to ubuntu desktop environment isntead of xubuntu desktop environment18:25
jcstarkenif you have them both installed you can pick the one you want when you login18:25
popcanit wont let me18:26
jcstarkendo you have it to auto login18:26
popcanjcstarken there is a login username called other that lets me switch to ubuntu but my password is supposedly wrong for that one18:26
popcanjcstarken yes i do have it on auto login18:27
fballemjcstarken - I read earlier in the thread that popcan did enable auto-login18:27
Beldarautolgin defaults to the last desktop run, it wont go to ubuntu from xubuntu simple problem18:28
jcstarkenwell will have to go into the accounts with admin rights and change  the login in option18:28
Beldaror xubuntu to ubuntu,18:28
popcanhow do i getr admin rights18:29
popcan?18:29
StephenSsudo ...18:29
StephenSor su -18:29
StephenSyou need to have perms in sudoers though popcan18:29
jcstarkenif you are doing it from gui then you just have to know the admin password18:30
k1l_StephenS: no, not su18:30
k1l_popcan: where do you need admin rights?18:30
popcanshouldnt i have made the admin password or is it a default password18:30
fballemApplications->System->Users and Groups18:30
Beldarpopcan, Logout of xubuntu, log into ubuntu, open users, unlock the lock top right and turn off the autologin.18:30
StephenSif he wants root then yes su18:30
MonkeyDustpopcan  your password doesnt change with the DE18:30
k1l_popcan: your user already got admin rights18:31
popcanbeldar you are not helping at all please understand the problem first18:31
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deekejif you need to run program under elevated privileges, which has GUI, you can launch it with: gksudo <program-name>18:31
xMopxShellhey, how would i install a driver for a nvidia 9000 series video card?18:31
k1l_!sudo | StephenS18:31
ubottuStephenS: sudo is a command to run command-line programs with superuser privileges ("root") (also see !cli). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (GNOME, Xfce), or !kdesudo (KDE). If you're unable to execute commands with sudo see: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo18:31
MonkeyDustpopcan  logout, switch, login18:31
StephenS...18:31
k1l_StephenS: there is no root on ubuntu. EOD18:31
popcanmonkeydust it wont let me log in to the one that lets me switch it18:31
popcanit says the password is incorrect18:31
fballemeveryone - there is a gui option within Xubuntu that popcan can use.18:31
MonkeyDustpopcan  what happens when you try?18:32
jcstarkenthat is what I was trying to tell him18:32
k1l_popcan: the password for the nickname is the same on all desktops on on machine18:32
deekejno root on ubuntu??? o.O18:32
fballempopcan - couple of questions, if I may18:32
StephenSk1l_: as user there is no root, but you can gain root perms with sudo18:32
popcank1l_ it says otherwise18:32
k1l_deekej: its login is disabled.18:32
fballem1/ You setup Ubuntu first, correct?18:32
popcancorrect18:32
StephenSand you can sudo into another uses by su - username, and if username is in sudoers with perms: ALL then thats basically user with root perms.18:32
k1l_StephenS: yes. but please read about sudo. you gave false commands.18:32
fballem2/ You know the password that you used when you first setup Ubuntu, correct?18:33
tex83Recommend a bitcoin miner?18:33
tex83program, tha tis18:33
popcancorrect18:33
popcani know the password18:33
deekejk1l_: ah, i see (I'm not using pure ubuntu, therefore I didn't know...)18:33
fballem3/ You are currently logged into Xubuntu, correct?18:33
popcancorrect18:33
fballem4/ Can you locate the following: Applications->System->Users and Groups in the menus.18:34
mjs86hi, anyone else unable to launch steam on 14.04?18:34
popcanfballem i casnt find applications but when i find system there is no users18:35
fballempopcan, Xubuntu has menu options on the top panel - one of the options is Applications.18:36
Beldar!anyone > mjs8618:36
Beldar!ask > mjs8618:36
ubottumjs86, please see my private message18:36
popcanfballem yes im there18:36
fballemif you select Applications, you will have another menu - that menu will include System18:36
leuApodo2hi18:36
fballemif you select System, you will have another set of options, including Users and Groups.18:37
fballemselect Users and Groups, and you should have a list of users, including yourself.18:37
fballemplease let me know if that is correct.18:37
leurianhow are you?18:37
popcanall i see after that is task manager and cpu usage ect18:37
fballempopcan, are you setup on launchpad?18:38
popcanno18:38
popcanthis is just a desktop environment18:38
sevauk2test18:38
fballemdo you have a web browser?18:38
popcanyes18:39
JanuszHello. How can I update 14.04 to 14.10?18:39
popcani downloaded chromium18:39
BeldarJanusz, There is not a 14.1018:39
fballemgo to launchpad.net and register. When you have done that, send me a private message in launchpad (my username is the same there as it is here)18:39
JanuszBeldar, but I would like to test pre-release18:39
fballemlaunchpad.net is one of the support channels for ubuntu.18:40
fballemJanusz - looking to break stuff again?18:40
BeldarJanusz, you have 6 months to do that.18:40
Januszfballem, when there will be an option to test 14.10?18:41
fballemwhen they build it. I think if you are on the daily build, you will get it when it's done. I think they usually wait about a week or two before switching versions.18:41
xanguaJanusz: ubuntu 14.04 just cam out, calm down18:42
Januszxangua, in past there was an option to test even very early build of upcoming release18:42
minimecJanusz: I think they take a 2 weeks break before they merge the debian experimental branch and start over again.18:43
fballempopcorn, are you still there.18:43
popcanyes18:43
popcanim logged into launchpad18:43
popcanwere do i go now18:43
Januszminimec, So, You think that in beginning of May there may be an option to test 14.10, or it will take place later?18:44
popcanfballem18:44
fballemyes18:44
popcan^^^^^18:44
fballemsorry, my launchpad name is flavelle.ballem18:44
OerHeksJanusz, best thing to do is joining #ubuntu+1, this channel is for next release support18:44
popcanwere do i go to start a privet massage18:45
fballemthere is an option to search for a user. Once you find me, there is an option to contact this user.18:45
fballemhave you registered on launchpad?18:45
JanuszOerHeks, constructive advice. TU18:45
minimecJanusz: That is exactly what I think. ;)18:45
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phaoI've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?18:46
OerHeksthere is no !14.10 factoid yet.18:46
popcani sent it fballem18:47
minimecJanusz: You can always check the release schedule here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule18:47
Januszminimec, constructive advice. TU18:48
ztanehow to get the damned trayicons whitelisted on trusty?18:48
MonkeyDust14.10 does not even have a name yet18:48
popcanfballem18:49
tieinvg!0@r#D$oN18:49
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gustavoHi18:50
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gustavoI have installed Xubuntu 14.04 Trusty Turd18:50
gustavoAnd it runs good!!!18:50
Judas-hmm, I just dist-upgraded a maverick (1865.02) ubuntu all the way up to 12.04 LTS and now it says there are no never versions, but according to topic here there's a 14.04 version too?18:51
xMopxShellhey guys, i have 3 screens powered by 2 video cards. i can't drag windows from the 2 screens to the third??18:51
minimecxMopxShell: Are they all visible in the 'Display' GUI? what does xrandr give you as output in a terminal?18:54
gustavoHi18:54
gustavois any one there???18:54
gareppalol18:54
DJonesgustavo: Please use the correct name18:54
chkifhi18:54
fballempopcan - check your e-mail.18:54
basketballlhow do i set up google public dns from gui settings18:54
xMopxShellminimec: display gui or nvidia settings?18:54
SlartJudas-: yes, there is a 14.04 LTS version out.. not sure why you're not seeing it.. you've updated all the repos and such?18:55
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minimecxMopxShell: In your case nvidia settings, if you use the nvidia restricted driver.18:55
xMopxShellyeah, theyre all visible. ill get xrandr output..18:55
minimecxMopxShell: So xrandr wount give you some info either I guess.18:56
xMopxShellminimec: http://pastebin.com/KmhzGGt218:56
alberbeltzhey18:57
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alberbeltzhey¿18:57
jastichhey18:57
alberbeltzwhere are u from?18:57
jastichMilwaukee, USA18:57
phaohey... how do I find out if a particular application is running on top of my intel video card or my nvidia video cad?18:57
phaocard*18:57
kupo_Where to get 14.04 PPA's?18:58
kupo_Or do trustys still work18:58
ztanephao: if you have the optimus then most probably intel :P18:58
minimecxMopxShell: I guess that's the internal GPU of your (probably) Intel i3/5/7 CPU.18:58
donc3Hi!18:58
kupo_saucy i mean18:58
donc3I have installed ubuntu 14.04, a clean installation18:59
xMopxShellminimec: i have the internal GPU from my CPU disabled via the bios.18:59
donc3but my usb 3.0 doesn't work on this port. only in the usb 2.0 port18:59
Judas-slart: I think so - it is hitting de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu according to the sources.list18:59
fballemPopcorn - are you still here?18:59
donc3could you help me??18:59
k1l_kupo_: ask the ppa maintainer to upload 14.04 packages to their ppa18:59
DJoneskupo_: You'#ll get them from the same place you got the earlier release's, but, whoever created the ppa you used may not have got round to making one for 14.04 or may have abandoned their project18:59
kupo_so eventually they'll  just show up in launchpad most likely?19:00
phaoztane, lshw shows both drivers...19:01
SlartJudas-: well.. not sure what to suggest then.. sorry19:01
phaoztane, how do make an app run with the nvidia card?19:01
Judas-maybe I should try change precise to whatever 14.04 is called manually19:01
donc3nobody know about my problem??19:02
k1l_!ppa | kupo_ see the list there for PPAs19:02
ubottukupo_ see the list there for PPAs: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge19:02
OSaddictAnyone know of any Linux games with very intense, high-powered 3d graphics?19:02
kupo_ok. thanks19:02
MonkeyDustJudas-  sudo do-release-upgrade -d    works, but it takes at least 2 hours and you must stay present to confirm some changes19:02
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OSaddictMy friend says Linux is not capable of such things.19:02
xMopxShellminecraft19:02
xMopxShelllol19:02
OSaddictAnd I want to prove him wrong.19:02
basketballwhen i boot my laptop it boots to a black command line that says ttyl19:02
ztanephao: i had the optimus chipset, it basically never uses nvidia unless you do tricks19:03
minimecxMopxShell: Ok... Somehow two monitors DVI-I-2 and DVI-I-3 are seen and handled by xrandr, but not the third one.19:03
fballem0Saddict - do you use Steam in Windows?19:03
OSaddictYes.19:03
liquideeyou can kill your comp with minecraft plus all those texture packs and mods19:03
xMopxShellminimec: i dont even know what that means :)19:03
OSaddictBesides minecraft.19:03
MonkeyDustOSaddict  there's also #ubuntu-steam19:03
xMopxShellOSaddict: tf219:03
fballemmany of those games have been ported to Steam in Linux - which does run in Ubuntu.19:03
SlartOSaddict: there's left 4 dead 2, Metro 2033... not sure what else19:03
liquideel4d219:03
minimecxMopxShell: They should show up in the 'Display' GUI (not nvidia-settings)19:03
liquideedo you want to stress test your hardware or what19:04
basketballlanyone19:04
Judas-MonkeyDust: ok trying with the -d option then - here goes nothing.. :)19:04
xMopxShellminimec: i dont think i even have that19:04
SlartOSaddict: not that I'd call that top of the line graphics.. but still19:04
SlartOSaddict: or you can run that benchmark.. with the floating islands.. can't remember the name at the moment19:04
OSaddictSomething along the lines of BF419:04
ooxihi how can i change the sidebar in nautilus (14.04) from places to tree like it was possible in 12.04?19:04
fballem0Saddict - do a google search for Steam and Linux.19:04
fballemyou will get some more information there.19:04
xMopxShellminimec: ive got nvidia settings and arandr19:05
liquideeits heaven benchmark19:05
MonkeyDustJudas-  let me know if it works for you too19:05
fballempopcorn19:05
minimecxMopxShell: Check the system settings... -> gnome-control-center in unity or gnome-shell19:05
donc3this is what it shows me the output of dmesg | grep usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/7286114/19:05
fballemare you still here?19:05
liquideeOSaddict: i dont think you will get something like this working on linux well19:05
xMopxShellminimec: i have nothing related to unity or gnome.19:05
SlartOSaddict: this was the benchmark I was looking for http://unigine.com/products/heaven/19:06
Judas-MonkeyDust: so far it seems to have started the upgrade19:06
minimecxMopxShell: We are talking about the default system settings gui of a gnome based desktop manager. You should have that. It's installed per default.19:07
OSaddictI've got a high-powered comp. I just want to demonstrate some intense 3d gaming on Linux.19:07
xMopxShellminimec: ive removed it to use the LXDE window manager.19:07
fballem0Saddict - best to checkout Steam for Linux and go from there.19:07
xMopxShellarandr "is" the default monitor gui.19:08
SlartOSaddict: yup, agree with fballem.. go with steam19:08
fballem0Saddict - what type of graphics card do you have in your system?19:08
okay19I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."19:09
leuApodo2hi19:10
hhh_when i turn on my laptop it boots to a black terminal that says tty119:10
kupo_sudo launchpad-getkeys doesnt work in 14.04 yet it seems.19:10
minimecxMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Which_tool_is_used_for_configuring_screen_resolution_in_LXDE.3F19:11
MonkeyDust!games | OSaddict19:11
ubottuOSaddict: Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://www.penguspy.com/19:11
minimecxMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXRandr19:11
xMopxShellminimec: Lxrandr only supports mirroring. which is why i have arandr.19:11
xMopxShellminimec: which looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5XQYjO8.png19:12
minimecxMopxShell: So you configured your xrandr for two screens only and were successfull at least for these two...19:12
xMopxShellminimec: lxrander lists only the 2 screens that arandr shows as well.19:14
Pushyhi guys19:14
xMopxShellminimec: i think the 3rd screen is in a separate x session…?19:14
Pushyubuntu on SSD works nice19:14
Pushyvery fast.19:14
Pushyi got the samsung evo 240GB...fast shlt19:14
phaoHi. I've installed bumblebee and when I try to "optrun firefox" I get http://pastie.org/9093946 ... any clues on how I fix it? I can post more info of course... but idk what to post. This is ubuntu 14.0419:14
minimecxMopxShell: You would then have to login seperately to that session19:15
Pushyhi phao19:15
phaoPushy, heya19:15
xMopxShellminimec: thats not an option. it should work as a normal screen.19:15
Pushyokie19:15
Pushyhey guys, any improvement on 14.04?19:16
xMopxShellminimec: i can move my cursor to the other screen. but not windows, and theres not another way to login?19:16
Pushyi've been updating it but i have no  idea why so19:16
kostkonPushy, http://www.techdrivein.com/2014/04/15-ubuntu-1404-lts-new-features-changes.html19:17
leuApodo2hi19:17
* leuApodo2 jumps19:17
Pushykostkon, come on man, all improvement on sound wall paper , background and shlt like that/19:17
Pushyyou got to be kidding me19:18
kostkonPushy, don't use it then19:18
Pushykostkon, more like the look.19:18
Pushyhmm19:18
* leuApodo2 everything ok?19:18
okay19I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."19:18
Pushywho care about the appearance...so basically nothing really new19:18
hhh_is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver19:18
minimecxMopxShell: Do you have the restricted nvidia driver installed? I you removed that once? Check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log once to see what driver you use. The opensource driver would be 'nouveau' for a nvidia card.19:19
sharefreeis new linux low on ram19:19
kupo_there is more new than ou think19:19
kupo_i don't use unity though. xubuntu master race19:19
Pushykostkon, they should improve technical shlt...not just the appearance19:19
xMopxShellminimec: would nouveau be the one that's enabled by default?19:19
minimecxMopxShell: for nvidia yes.19:20
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xMopxShellminimec: that one did not allow me to use the 3rd screen entirely.19:20
minimecxMopxShell: I guess you are using it at leaast for the GPU with the 'working monitors'19:20
kostkonPushy, they did, e.g. http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/docker-in-ubuntu-ubuntu-in-docker.html19:21
xMopxShellminimec: if i remove the nvidia restricted driver, the 3d screen doesn't power on.19:21
OSaddictAlright, Left 4 Dead 2, it is!19:22
leurianhi all19:22
leurianleurian how are you?19:22
Judas-MonkeyDust: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"19:22
minimecxMopxShell: Maybe you have to activate it in arandr.19:22
xMopxShellminimec: how? it's not listed.19:22
SenzaHey19:23
OSaddictI read somewhere that some of the Linux Steam games use a native port of DirectX. Is that true?19:23
leurianleurian hi all19:23
SenzaGuys, iḿ new to Linux.. Anyone has any tips for me?19:23
volkanHey, After restart by brightness level is not the previous value. How can I fix this problem?19:23
kostkonOSaddict, no. They use opengl19:23
MonkeyDustJudas-  yes, i guess it's harmless, fonts or so19:24
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okay19Senza: Learn basic terminal commands. You'll get some stuff done faster in the terminal than with a GUI.19:24
Slartvolkan: is this on a laptop?19:24
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SenzaDo you have a good website or something to learn the basics? :)19:24
OSaddictSenza: Don't be afraid of the command line.19:25
MHodgeThe command line if your friend. :)19:25
MonkeyDustSenza  click here and there, see what's where, what it does, how it's called etc19:25
Judas-MonkeyDust: besides this it seems to be running some form of 14.04 LTS now :)19:25
Judas-and yes, seemed to be mostly something latex thai stuff and such19:25
okay19Senza: I don't. But google "linux terminal basics" to find some helpful pages.19:25
MonkeyDustJudas-  yes, rings a bell ;)19:25
OSaddictSenza: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html19:25
SenzaThanks guys, i'm looking forward to my new adventures in Linux19:26
Pushyhow to install .bundle ?19:26
minimecxMopxShell: So the 2nd GPU is not well supported by randr. Other way would be to run them all with the restricted driver, but I have no experience with two GPU's. I have a dual monitor setup with a Intel i5 internal GPU.19:26
Pushywith commandline ?19:26
bekksPushy: Whats ".bundle"?19:26
OSaddictSenza: And Linux software is handled in packages. Some packages depend on others, which depend on others.19:26
xMopxShellminimec: how is it that an 8 year old, very common GPU, isn't supported?19:26
SenzaYeah i knew about that, was also planning on setting up a test-network whitin Linux Red Hat servers (Domain Controller, File Server and stuff)19:27
SenzaI'm studieing System engineer and i feel ashamed that i know NOTHING about Linux...19:27
willwhxMopxShell: probably due to poor driver support for a gpu19:27
minimecxMopxShell: You're right. That should work.19:27
isaacdownlowis there any easy way to get notify-send to respect timeout values? I'm aware that notify-osd has deliberately decided to ignore such timeouts, but I really need the ability to change display timeouts!19:27
kostkonisaacdownlow, notify-osd ignores them yeah19:28
kostkonisaacdownlow, by design19:28
Maked_OneSo my Hardrive has been chugging away for awhile now and I have nothing but this IRC open [was doing it before IRC also] any idea of a GUI i can use to tell me what's causing it?19:28
isaacdownlowkostkon: is there any notify-osd alternative that I could plug notify-send into for special cases? I don't think it's a good idea to completely get rid of notify-osd (I'm assuming it's been well designed for most stuff), but I'd like to be able to pop a notification with a timeout in a very specific case19:29
OSaddictxMopxShell: Do you use nVidia?19:29
xMopxShellOSaddict: yes, both cards19:29
kostkonisaacdownlow, there are some, search in the repos19:29
xMopxShellright now im trying removing nouveau entirely19:30
hhh_is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver19:30
minimecxMopxShell: DOn't do that!19:30
OSaddictxMopxShell: nVidia is a nightmare on Linux. Very hit-and-miss. You should try both the open-source drivers and nVidia's own drivers.19:30
rypervenchexMopxShell: If your nvidia drivers screw up, nouveau is what you will use while you're troubleshooting it.19:30
fr00phi19:31
xMopxShellah. how should i use the restricted driver for all present gpus/19:31
fr00pis it possible to install pidgin-otr?19:31
xMopxShell?*19:31
okay19I've been having an issue with GRUB since I updated. I get the rescue prompt on boot.19:31
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OSaddictokay19: Boot up your live CD and run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda19:32
sharefreeis new ubuntu highly optimized ?19:32
MonkeyDustsharefree  meaning?19:32
trismisaacdownlow: the notification daemon needs to own org.freedesktop.Notifications on dbus so you can't really have two running at a time19:32
BeldarOSaddict, That will not work, and you do not know it is sda.19:33
okay19OSaddict: I'm using EFI, and grub-install refuses to run.19:33
okay19OSaddict: But it actually is sda.19:33
AStormxMopxShell, what does that mean?19:33
OSaddictokay19: Assuming that your hard disk is called sda. If you've got a legacy IDE drive, it's hda.19:33
AStormthere are restricted drivers only for AMD and Nvidia GPUs (and some other rare ones)19:33
xMopxShellAStorm: minimec suggested running both cards with the restricted driver, instead of nouveau.19:34
AStormmost machines now have an additional iGPU19:34
AStormwhich cards?19:34
xMopxShell9400 GS and GTX 560 Ti19:34
macscam1i cant enter #ubuntu+1 because it's invite only ... can anyone help with the issue of changing volume in 14.10 skipps the audio19:34
xMopxShellboth nvidia.19:34
AStorm9400 GS won't work with new nvidia-driver I think19:34
MultbrelchHi all. Problem in 14.04 64Bit on HP EliteBook 2170p: The brightness toggle does not work. This didn't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136133&p=12606489#post1260648919:34
AStormbut it's worth a shot19:34
xMopxShellwhat does that mean?19:34
AStormit's *old*19:34
okay19OSaddict: I can use a live CD to get a GRUB command line, and then use the configfile command to load the boot menu.19:35
OSaddictokay19: try this: grub-install /dev/sda --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --recheck --debug19:35
xMopxShellAStorm: installing nvidia-331 is the only way ive gotten the 9400GS to even power on it's monitor19:35
sharefreeMonkeyDust, meaning ubuntu can bear old shitty hardware now19:35
orogorhi19:35
okay19OSaddict: What does the --debug switch do?19:35
Pushybombshell19:36
orogoris it just me or the ubuntu mirror are overloaded ?19:36
isaacdownlowtrism: bah humbug19:36
zsw__helllo i have lost my password and i have tryed all tactacs exept one. and i need someones help with that.19:36
OerHeksorogor, yes, mirrors are smokin' due the new release19:36
MultbrelchAny idea? under 13.10 it worked out of the box19:36
minimec xMopxShell the 9400GS is only supported with the nouveau driver, while the GTX560 only seems to work with the restricted driver right now, as it looks. bad situation...19:36
bekks!password | zsw__19:36
ubottuzsw__: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords19:36
OSaddictI use it all the time, in case sth goes wrong, I might be able to work out the problem.19:37
xMopxShellminimec: windows and OSX have no problem using both. Why not ubuntu?19:37
kostkonmessage is a fake19:37
volkanTransmission does not download anything. Does anyone have the same problem?19:37
orogornobody switched to apt-p2p  ?19:37
vik1i cant make update in update manager19:37
zsw__i have allredy tryed that multipul times19:37
Pushydonation19:37
OerHeksvolkan, depends on the source of your download19:37
kostkonPushy, it's fake19:37
vik1i click install update . and it keeps waiting . dosent download anything19:37
minimecxMopxShell: Blame nvidia for it. If that company would share the knowledge with the community, they would run... ;)19:38
OerHeksvolkan, and location ( some ISP block torrents)19:38
volkanOerHeks, I tried different sources.19:38
dw1does canonical run freenode?  didnt know19:38
aslaenHello, I'm having trouble with cobbler on ubuntu 12.04. I am running into bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/100021919:38
xMopxShellminimec:  so it sounds like it's impossible to use both cards under ubuntu?19:38
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1000219 in cobbler (Ubuntu) "cobbler does not recognise 12.04 server iso" [Medium,Confirmed]19:38
bekksdw1: It doesnt.19:38
DalekSecdw1: It's a fake.19:38
Pushyif my hard drive copy at write rate of 75MegaByte/s  what would it be in Mega Bits?19:38
MHodgeJust for reference, what's your ISP?19:38
dw1bekks: ah k19:38
AStormdw1, that's just a notice, anyone can send it19:38
dw1DalekSec: yea figured that, just wondered if it was semi accurate19:38
Pushyanyone is going for a spin?19:39
MultbrelchI try this now: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450437/ubuntu-14-04-brightness-problem-in-hp-hybrid-laptop see you later19:39
AStormdw1, the K-line right afterwards is a dead giveaway (all puns intended)19:39
OSaddictvolkan: Torrents vary in speed. I took me 4 hours jut to download the crunchbang iso!19:39
dw1AStorm: yeah19:39
aslaenI've already tried changing $suite to precise, but I get this error "mirror does not have any suite symlinks"19:39
aslaenI also get release precise not found.19:39
aslaenCan anyone help me out?19:39
macscam1anybody know how to make a custom folder icon? like i have an image, need to get it to icon format19:40
zsw__so what i did is i downloaded ubuntu 14.04 just now and someone told me if i delete the hash for my pass that i could axscces my account without a pass19:40
OSaddictmacscam1: You mean for a specific folder?19:40
dougstew33 G19:40
macscam1OSaddict yea19:41
dw1zsw__: is your home folder encrypted?19:41
dw1zsw__: if not, just boot into repair prompt and run passwd <user> as root19:42
zsw__multbrech, nice jesture but no19:42
dw1zsw__: or ctrl-alt-f1 from login screen, alt-f7 to get back19:42
OSaddictmacscam1: Just click the big folder icon in "Properties"19:42
dw1zsw__: if you can login there......19:42
minimecxMopxShell: That I cannot tell you for sure, as I don't have experience with nvidia anymore. I used to have one but right now I stick with my internal GPU. And if you activated the internal Intel GPU and used it with the GTX560?19:43
OSaddictmacscam1: PNG format is the one that's always used. IDK if others would work also.19:43
zsw__really,dwl i have no idea19:43
macscam1OSaddict surprisingly simple thanks19:43
zsw__give me a sec19:44
phaoif I run an application with optirun, it'll necessarily use my nvidia driver, right?19:44
ntviet18hi19:44
xMopxShellminimec: id rather not, the internal GPU isn't set up for windows / OSX on the same hardware, and i'd rather not need to change plugs every time i boot to a different partition.19:44
minimecxMopxShell: I see...19:45
xMopxShellminimec: thanks for the help so far though. i think ubuntu just wont work for me at present.19:45
OSaddictxMopxShell: Try a different version.19:46
xMopxShellOSaddict: of the nvidia driver?19:46
minimecxMopxShell: You could search on the internet whether there is some experimental support of the gtx560 with the nouveau driver. That might be a solution. I guess the official 14.04 only ships a stable driver, not an experimental one.19:46
OSaddictI've had computers that couldn't run 13.10, but could run 12.04.19:46
babyswizzany proper documentation on the ubuntu terminal commands anywhere?19:47
xMopxShellOSaddict: ah. i think that would only have to do with what is enabled on the distro by default…19:47
rypervenchebabyswizz: Are you new to Linux?19:47
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babyswizzrypervenche: yes I am and I am trying to use the Unix programmer's manual but I think there are some difference in the command described there19:49
tim_hi19:49
rypervenchebabyswizz: I've always found this useful: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php19:49
OSaddictbabyswizz: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html is a good one also.19:50
tim_hi guys19:50
tim_ 19:50
Guest84117hi19:51
tim_how are u guys19:51
Guest84117<<- fine19:51
tim_first time with irssi19:51
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MultbrelchI'm back - help: I triedd "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"" but it didn't help. I removed the line in grub and NOW unity is not working. What shall I do?19:52
babyswizzthanks guys19:52
zsw_im back19:53
tim_how i get a list of all channels19:53
tim_ 19:53
kostkon!alis | tim_19:53
ubottutim_: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*19:53
zsw_hello19:53
qinMultbrelch: how have you edited grub entry?19:53
Multbrelchqin, yes19:54
qinhow?19:54
Multbrelchand then update-grup19:54
Multbrelchhow? with nano ...19:54
tim_!alis19:54
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*19:54
Jorkyhelou19:54
Jorkyfaggots19:54
qinMultbrelch: you can edit grub from boot to and you should have line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= with some values19:55
zsw_if i use ubuntu 14.04iso can i delete password hash somehow?19:55
Multbrelchqin, mom19:56
bekkszsw_: usermod19:56
zsw_bekks, ???19:56
bekkszsw_: thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash19:56
zsw_good but how,bekks19:57
a7i3nIn 14.04 Canonical has apparently forked gnome-settings-daemon to somethiing else. Any idea what it might be?19:57
bekkszsw_: "thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash".19:57
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CosmoX..19:57
kostkona7i3n, http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-developers-registered-unity-control-center-launchpad-fork-gnome-control-center-so-we-can19:58
trisma7i3n: unity-settings-daemon19:58
zsw_what,how,and most of all where,bekks19:58
bekkszsw_: What exactly are you trying to do, and why?19:58
hhh_is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver19:58
Multbrelchqin, yes I have now: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash "19:58
MultbrelchGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""19:58
Multbrelch 19:58
a7i3nThanks for the help all you folks19:58
zsw_i lost my account password19:58
TheVampistI'm having some issues with my Y500 dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu.19:59
kostkonzsw_, are you trying to reset/recover your password?19:59
Multbrelchqin, in directory "/etc/default"19:59
zsw_recover19:59
kostkonzsw_, not possible but you can reset it19:59
MultbrelchWhy is Unity not working now? .... ??19:59
kostkonzsw_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword20:00
zsw_how?20:00
kostkonzsw_, easy to follow how-to ^^20:00
ultimociao20:00
liquideezsw_: you can boot from live cd and change /etc/passwd20:00
ultimo!list20:00
ubottuultimo: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».20:00
liquideezsw_: but i guess the link is better20:00
zsw_i have tryed that method several times and the live disk was what i was talking about20:00
Multbrelchqin, remember: before I have changed the line to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"20:01
Multbrelchwith following update-grub20:01
zsw_how would i boot from live disk ,bekks20:01
bekkszsw_: Insert it, boot it.20:02
zsw_i no have disk but i alredy download iso20:02
sixwheeledbeastah, found it kristenbb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left20:02
bekkszsw_: Then burn that iso to a disk.20:02
liquideezsw_: you got a pendrive to use?20:02
zsw_can i use stick?20:03
liquideezsw_: you can use UNetBootin which will download the iso for you and install it to the usb stick20:03
liquideezsw_: which you can then boot20:03
zsw_ok walk me through it?20:03
bekks!usb | zsw20:03
ubottuzsw: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:03
qinMultbrelch: well you can change to "noquiet nosplash" to see err, you can do it via grub menu (hold shift and press e to edit)20:03
zsw_please. i linux noob :)20:03
Multbrelchqin, thx for your kind help. - Ive seen that under 13.10 I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"20:04
MultbrelchGRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="persistent"20:04
a7i3nAnyone have an idea how I could load the unity keybindings to my i3wm settings? Current string does not work: exec --no-startup-id unity-settings-daemon20:04
MultbrelchI try this now, cu later20:04
liquideezsw_: follow the instructions in the link that ubottu gave you first20:04
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liquideezsw_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick20:05
minimeca7i3n: There is a tool calles xbindkeys that would allow you to setup all the shortcuts you want. just start it when using i3wm.20:06
adam_____trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.. erroring out. where can I see the logs of what went wrong?20:08
keevitajaif i need to reinstall my windows will it overwrite grup?20:08
keevitajagrub(20:08
qinkeevitaja: yes20:08
qin!grub20:09
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub220:09
Multbrelchqin, it didn't work. Unity is not working, no side bar etc. Here is my grub file: http://www.pasteall.org/5094620:10
Multbrelchlatest grub file20:10
Beldarkeevitaja, Grub is easy to deal with, you can image/clone a working windows install and just reload it if needed.20:10
adam_____getting a lot of "Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Translation-en_CA                                             "20:10
adam_____"=== Command terminated with exit status 1 (Sat Apr 19 13:11:31 2014) ==="20:11
qinMultbrelch: you could adduser sometestuser and see "his" unity works, also vendor flag may need to be removed.20:12
qinnot sure how backlight would affect unity tho.20:13
Multbrelchu ask me, qin .... :-) ALL THIS IS QUITE STRANGE20:14
MultbrelchI will try in 15min20:14
yakclet's say I have 4 horizontal workspaces and i want to switch between them with on key shortcut. is it possible to make it switch back to the first after 4th or do I need to make another key to go back on it. I know you can use arrow keys but I'm just curious.20:17
yakcone key not on key20:17
Multbrelchqin, what do u mean by "vendor flag"?20:19
qinMultbrelch: "acpi_backlight=vendor" unless it does its work it is only think which may affect something20:20
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Multbrelchqin, I tried with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" only but after update-grub Unity does not show the side bar etc.20:22
minimec yakc: It is possible to switch through all desktops and go from 4 -> 1. I don't remember if you can use ubuntu-tweak or if you need the compiz-config-settings-manager. One key shortcut should be possible too, but you might 'loose' the <ctrl><alt>arrow shortcut...20:23
yakcokay, i'll take another look then. thank you20:24
qinMultbrelch: there is kinda new help page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight20:26
sixwheeledbeastI find it easier using the scroll wheel in the desktop switcher20:26
Multbrelchqin, yep I found that too but how do I get Unity back first, with default values from installation?20:27
wafflejock_Multbrelch: should probably search distro specific but something like this should work http://askubuntu.com/questions/95458/how-do-i-reinstall-unity20:28
kostkonMultbrelch, also try this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html20:29
wafflejock_Multbrelch: do a lsb_release -a to get your exact distro20:29
nosmelcI'm trying to mount a Windows file share.  It works if I just edit fstab, but I want to make it work with my log in user name and password by using libpam_mount.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I used the MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide20:30
wafflejock_oh huh I actually commented on that SO post :P20:30
Multbrelchwafflejock_, and kostkon I will try, thanks for your advices20:30
MultbrelchI will let you know later20:31
holsteinnosmelc: you just want persistent samba mounting.. try gigolo20:32
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ximalHello. I am in need of assistance installing xfce please ? What do I type in terminal to install the desktop environment xtfce ?20:35
adam_____Still can't upgrade to 14.04.. anyone care to help me?20:36
zsw_i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error20:36
dioioibI'm going to install 14.04 in a VM first before I do an install on my hardware.20:37
dioioibadam____: are you setting up server or desktop20:37
adam_____desktop20:37
adam_____want to upgrade this laptop from 13.10 to 14.0420:37
dioioibare you having issues?20:37
zsw_i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error20:37
adam_____yup20:37
xanguaximal: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop20:37
qinximal: And what Ubuntu do you run?20:37
adam_____getting "=== Command terminated with exit status 1 (Sat Apr 19 13:37:21 2014) ==="20:38
ximalI just installed the latest version20:38
dioioibis that using the ubuntu package manager?20:38
adam_____this is using "sudo do-release-upgrade" from command line20:38
zsw_hello?20:38
ximali am running the default version qin20:38
adam_____either way it doesn't work20:38
k1l_adam_____: what does it say before that line?20:39
adam_____have to run it again20:39
adam_____1 sec20:39
qinximal: Much more sensible is to download Xubuntu and try/install it, or as xangua shown you, you can migrate20:39
ximali just set the terminal ... i don't have the time to spend redownloading... not worried.. take but a few moments20:39
adam_____it goes through getting all the sources20:39
adam_____errs on all the en_CA translations20:40
adam_____as expected20:40
adam_____Canadian english is fine to default to just en20:40
adam_____for localization20:40
dioioibanother canuck? sweet. :)20:40
zsw_anyone there?20:40
adam_____yup20:40
adam_____it says "could not calculate the upgrade"20:41
adam_____"An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."20:41
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1TdrGSx020:42
zsw_ i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error20:42
adam_____I'm thinking it's unofficial packages.. how can I get a list of those and disable them for the upgrade then re-enable them?20:42
zsw_ i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error20:43
k1l_adam_____: please show "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin20:43
adam_____could this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/202730/how-to-fix-the-unable-to-calculate-upgrade-issue-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to20:44
dioioibk1l_: are you thinking he just doesn't have the repo in his list?20:44
k1l_dioioib: maybe he got some 3rd party repo there20:44
zsw_ i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error20:45
mrjesterI am looking for the 14.04 alternative install images.  Are they just not available yet or has something changed?20:45
k1l_adam_____: after that please show "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"20:45
k1l_mrjester: there are no alternate anymore. use the minimal20:45
dioioibmrjester: what platform?20:45
mrjesterx64  Trying to do an OEM install.20:45
dioioibwasn't that like in 12 they removes PPC.20:46
zsw_ i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error. anyone20:46
newvistaI'm unable to update using synaptic package manager, says failed to reach ubuntu server. Anyone else having this problem?20:46
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/otRf3Hxy20:47
mrjesterk1l_: Thanks.20:47
adam_____had to grep out the commented out lines20:47
MHodgenewvista, have you tried reconnecting to the internet just to check?20:47
adam_____k1l_: does that help?20:47
newvistafirefox is working fine. anything else to try?20:48
MHodgeDid Synaptic come packaged?20:48
k1l_adam_____: no the other command please. that will list the PPAs20:48
MHodgeOr did you download it?20:49
k1l_MHodge: synaptic is not in the ubuntu standard install anymore. but you can install it if you want20:49
MHodgeOh, in that case, you can try reinstalling. :)20:49
SimplecpmHey, my copy of 14.04 will not let me open apt links from the Ubuntu website.  Am I missing something?20:49
johnjaI had some sort of hardware failure during upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 leaving my computer in such a state that I don't have a desktop environment.  Unfortunately, I also don't have working network either.  eth0 seems to be missing.  How should I go about getting eth0 back?20:50
SimplecpmIt just gives me an empty application choice list.20:50
dioioibjohnja: can you run starx in terminal20:50
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MHodgeSimplecpm, were you able to choose a program to use?20:50
SimplecpmI was not.20:51
SimplecpmI'm not sure how to get to the application center from the browse menu.20:51
Guest11067Hi. I've set up an encrypted swap partition but it is reported as inactive.20:51
barrettis there a way to check the temperature of your motherboard chipset from the terminal?  without adding physical sensors?20:51
k1l_dioioib: startx will mess with .xautority file permissions20:51
k1l_dioioib: use the lightdm instead20:52
dioioiboh yeah unity right20:52
k1l_barrett: see lm_sensors20:52
dioioibI am still running gnome on 13.20:52
johnjadioioib: I have a login screen at low resulution.  When I put in my password the login doesn't happen.  X is running, but I can't get to a desktop.20:52
k1l_dioioib: no, ubuntu is meant to start the desktop with a *dm (lightdm in ubuntus case).20:52
dioioibas k1l_ said you might need to run with lightdm and reintall it20:52
MHodgejohnja, I don't know if this was asked, but what version is installed on your pc?20:52
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dioioibMHodge: he said it was an upgrade to 14.0420:53
johnjaMHodge:  I don't have a proper version of Ubuntu at this time.  I had a crash during the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.20:54
xtjacobI have a quick question about UEFI. I am trying to install a dual-boot with windows 8.1, and I'm not sure how to do the partitioning. Do I have to create my own /boot/efi partition, or does it use the efi partition windows created?20:54
k1l_johnja: then go into a konsole (ctrl+alt+f1) and run " sudo apt-get update " then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"20:55
s7xhey guys, wondering how to get wine to see my usb snd card so guitar rig works on wine. any ideas?20:56
Beldar!uefi > xtjacob20:56
ubottuxtjacob, please see my private message20:56
johnjak1l_: Part of the problem is that I have no network connection at this time.  eth0 seems to have gone missing.20:57
xtjacobubottu: I'll give it a look!20:57
ubottuxtjacob: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)20:57
kostkons7x, what's your problem exactly20:58
s7xwhen i load up guitar rig in wine i cant select my usb device as input so basically it doesnt work20:58
s7xpulseaudio is my only option20:59
xtjacobubottu: so it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint21:00
ubottuxtjacob: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:00
kostkons7x, so do it. install pavucontrol and seen if guitar rig appears in recording21:00
xtjacobso it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint21:01
s7xI see in recording tab, guitar rig stream #621:03
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kostkons7x, can you select a device for it?21:03
s7xkostkon, not sure what you mean...in the device tab?21:04
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eUPeO6Ic21:04
s7xinput device tab i mean21:04
adam_____k1l_:21:04
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k1l_adam_____: that is a lot of 3rd party repos21:05
adam_____yup21:05
k1l_adam_____: the chances are high that some PPA causes that error (like its mentioned in that askubuntu thread)21:06
adam_____for example, I need latest 2.9.x GIMP for 16-bit colour chanel21:06
johnjaapt-get is complaining about unmet dependencies and apt-get -f install refused to fix them, but aptitude looks like it is working though.  I might be okay.21:06
adam_____k1l_: so, here's thing. How do I disable most of them or exclude them from upgrade and then re add them?21:07
ewooyis there a way to tell where is command running from? I want to replace firefox with nightly, so I thought about replacing symlink somewhere (dont know where yet) :D21:07
dioioibewooy: use who21:07
kostkons7x, in recording i mean.21:08
dioioibonly works if the command is currently running though21:08
k1l_!ppa-purge | adam_____21:08
ewooydioioib: how would who help me? Isn't this showing only who is logged in?21:08
ubottuadam_____: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:08
k1l_!ppapurge | adam_____21:08
dioioibewooy: yes then you can check ps -A21:09
s7xkostkon, yes i can, i can select the device (right now tried using jackd) and it shows that its responsive21:09
adam_____ok.. I'll give that a go21:09
dioioibwith that user21:09
OerHeksso many ppa's, i hope for you that ppapurge can handle it21:09
adam_____would that stop those programs from working?21:09
localg0dWhat is the url for the xubuntu iso please ? i cannot find it at ubuntu.com21:09
adam_____or just leave them out from the updates?21:09
k1l_adam_____: that will revert to official ubuntu versions21:10
OerHekshttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/21:10
localg0dand why has ubuntu decided to make it so hard to choose whether or not you want the xubuntu or educational iso etc ?21:10
adam_____hmm21:10
k1l_you could readd them afterwards21:10
demo_hello, where can i ask questions about linux installing?:D21:10
dioioibewooy: or you might want to run this if the command is not running $ history21:10
xangualocalg0d: xubuntu.orgedubuntu.org google.com21:10
OerHekslocalg0d, xubuntu.com ?21:10
k1l_adam_____: the problem is that those modified packages can make the upgrade to stop21:11
adam_____ok.. say gimp as an example21:11
ewooydioioib: Command is not running, when I type firefox into terminal I want to know where is it ran from21:11
dioioibewooy: that will only show your user though21:11
dioioibewooy: oh you just want to find the dir. just use $ find firefox21:12
adam_____that's easy because I can just install from downloaded executable until they update the developer ppa that has the version I need21:12
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localg0di tried xubuntu.com but thank you xangua21:12
adam_____I would like to clean it up anyway. how do I remove one of the ppas?21:12
ewooydioioib: thanks21:12
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adam_____same command?21:12
localg0dthe other link with the url OerHeks shared worked fairly well21:12
xangua!ppa-purge | adam_____21:12
ubottuadam_____: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html21:12
dioioibewooy: just make sure you do recursive search from root.21:13
localg0dI did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on the other system already and it is running as we speak.. already done downloading and installing21:13
Flannelewooy: `which firefox` will tell you the path of 'firefox'.21:13
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dioioiblike find . firefox21:13
adam_____what I would really like to see is which ppa it choked on when doing the upgrade21:13
s7xHello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)21:13
Flannelewooy: If you want to use a different version that you installed, add it to your /usr/local/bin, and that'll be founf before the package version.21:13
Pushywhat is LTS stand for?21:14
szymon_ghi21:14
geirhadioioib: not quite21:14
k1l_!lts | Pushy21:14
ubottuPushy: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The latest LTS version of Ubuntu is !Trusty (Trusty Thar 14.04)21:14
PushyUbuntu LTS = Ubuntu Life Too Short?21:14
dioioibgeirha: find . firefox | grep firefox works fine fore me21:14
Flanneldioioib: `which firefox` is what he's looking for.21:14
geirhadioioib: that's silly21:14
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ewooyFlannel: thanks!21:15
dioioibunless there are 2 versions of firefox on his system.21:15
geirha''type firefox'' is better21:15
dioioibi've never used type21:15
k1l_Pushy: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?21:15
geirharun ''help type'' to read about it21:15
dioioibdoing that now21:15
Flanneldioioib: No, his question was "what's being run when I type 'firefox'" not "where are firefox(es) on my system"21:16
Raziel-CZHelloo Linux World, I am the Novice :)21:16
Pushyk1l_, can microsoft 2010 install in ubuntu?21:16
geirhadioioib: Anyway, as for find, it would be  find . -name firefox   to look for a file named firefox from the current directory21:16
demo_hello, ive done today my first linux install and ive got some problems. it worked fine at first, then ive installed the upgrades popping up. now it hangs when booting up. can anyone help?21:16
geirhaFlannel: And which does not answer that; type does21:17
dioioibgeirha: why in the world would you need to use find for something in the current directory21:17
dioioibin that case you would know where it was21:17
geirhadioioib: are you kidding me?21:17
Raziel-CZNějaký Čech tu asi není, což?21:17
k1l_Pushy: last chance: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?21:17
bekks!cz | Raziel-CZ21:17
ubottuRaziel-CZ: České uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.21:17
k1l_!cz | Raziel-CZ21:17
geirhadioioib: well, with recurssion, obviously21:17
Raziel-CZbekks, kl_: thx21:17
Flannelgeirha: It does answer that.  Stop talking nonsense.21:18
dioioibthat is not much different then using grep to find all files with the tag firefox including any scripts.21:18
Raziel-CZ!cz21:18
ubottuČeské uživatele žádáme, aby mluvili v kanále #ubuntu anglicky. Česky je možno se domluvit v #ubuntu-cz. Děkujeme.21:18
geirhaFlannel: If firefox was an alias or function, type would say so, which would not21:18
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localg0dxangua: do you mind telling me how i might change the bootlist to boot windows first ? for some reason i cannot find that setting in the administrative settings section..21:19
dioioibgeirha: sounds like type is the way to go then21:19
geirhatype is a shell builtin, which is a pointless and badly written shell script21:19
dioioibgeirha: does it have a shorter run cycle. I can't use it on my current system21:19
LostMyMindIf I were to format my partition, then install 13.03, install some 3rd party software, then update to 14.04, would my 3rd party software still be there?21:19
bekksLostMyMind: 13.04 is EOL. Do not install it anymore.21:19
bekksLostMyMind: In addition, you would have to upgrade to 13.10 first, before you can upgrade to 14.0421:20
geirhadioioib: shorter run cycle?21:20
k1l_LostMyMind: why dont you start with 14.04 in first place?21:20
dioioibgeirha: well using find . firefox | grep Firefox takes a long time to run. hence it's run cycle21:20
minimecLostMyMind: ... and yes 3rd party software would still be present, but the repositories fpr updates would be disabled21:21
qindioioib: find is useless for it, use locate to have some flying expirience in terminal, and why would you have 2 versions of same browser installed, and how did you managed to do it?21:22
LostMyMindwell, I'm new to linux. The 3rd party software has a PPA for 13.03, but not for 14.04. It's one peice of software that is must-have for me. They have a downloadable file for manual installation, but apperently it's hard to install since certain dependancies aren't available on 14.0421:22
bekksLostMyMind: Chances are good it wont run on 14.04 then. And 13.04 (not 13.03) is EOL - so you are out of luck actually.21:23
dioioibqin: a I didn't install it. 2 if you compile from source you could. And find with a pipe to a grep works for finding almost anything in your system21:23
qinLostMyMind: and what piece of software is it?21:23
k1l_LostMyMind: that is not usable on 14.04 anyway21:23
k1l_LostMyMind: which program is that?21:24
LostMyMindPlaystation3 media Server21:24
k1l_ah, you again21:24
qindioioib: compile from source is bad idea, mozzilla will overwrite itself, unless you change installation paths21:24
SofSqin: firefox is easy to have on multiple versions, either the tarball or compiling, and each is pretty much standalone, however they have to be launched directly from their own folders21:24
qindioioib: find with exec makes sense with pipe little less21:25
dioioibqin: I know. I am just giving you examples here.21:25
geirhadioioib: piping find to grep just shows that you don't know how to use the find command. But don't fret, it *is* a very complicated command.21:25
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localg0dcan anyone tell me how i get away from the default desktop settings ? turn off all the transitional effects etc ?21:25
geirhadioioib: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind21:26
orogorlocalg0d, basically ... use another desktop21:26
qinSofS: linky, since last time almost broken keyboard installing old fox ;)21:26
orogorlxdeskip or whatever21:26
localg0dI install xubuntu but unfortunately when I selected xfce it will not run that desktop .. it runs the same looking desktop21:27
orogor:/21:27
LostMyMindI got it to install on my last distro, but that was linuxlite which was based on 13.03. Then randomly the whole system froze up. I had to push and hold power to turn it off. When I turned it back on, grub was gone. Wouldn't load anything. I reinstalled via dvd for 14.04, and now everything works again. But now I'm finding problems with ps3 media server, and flash on firefox.21:27
orogorcan t choose another thing at the session login ?21:27
ChuoHey guys, I can't open libreoffice because it says I don't have access rights to ~/.config/libreoffice/4 How do I go about fixing it?21:27
k1l_LostMyMind: talk to that PPA maintainer to make a package for 14.0421:28
orogorChuo,  that s weirdo21:28
zzz_Can anyone offer any advice on wireless for 14.04? My PCIe card (Ralink RT5392 using stock rt2860.bin) has stopped connecting to my home WPA2 network. It will connect to the network unsecured, and I've tried my phone as a hotspot and connected unsecured and with WPA2 there. I can scan for networks fine. Yesterday night I had Internet fine again, today it's back to no connectivity.21:28
SofSqui: well, it really only works if each is in its own folder, mixing with systemwide settings/folders would be sad21:28
LostMyMindI'm not going to look for the individual topic again, but basically he wrote on his forum that there is a certain dependancy that isn't on 14.04. So the installation will be harder. Me being new to linux I couldn't even figure out how to install a tar.gz21:29
dioioibgeirha: the whole name search portion of find is really nice. thanks.21:30
amedi have a problem with automounting of a partition ext421:30
adam_____I'm not sure why the distro update doesn't have an option to ignore the optional sources I've included if their dependencies can't be satisfied21:30
qinSofS: Sad is a bad word to discribe it. ;) Well for a moment using separate vbox for every ff ;)21:31
adam_____I'd like to have to rebuild that myself if I really want to use it21:31
Chuohow do I change the permissions to ~/.config/libreoffice$ using terminal21:31
AP-yi21:31
AP-hi21:31
AP-is it a file21:32
AP-or a directory SI21:32
k1l_adam_____: that is the usual way. but what the installed packages cause is up to the packages.21:32
AP-r21:32
AP-sory for typos21:32
AP-im a lil drunk21:32
AP-and thinkk i screwed a rabit21:32
amedthis is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/HiUsdrJJ21:33
k1l_AP-: dont drink and irc. :)  if you want to chat talk in #ubuntu-offtopic21:33
SofSqin: would not different profiles do the job instead of a full vbox?21:33
minimecChuo: example 'chmod 660 ~/.config/libreoffice'21:33
johnjaAP-: please leave the animals alone.21:33
adam_____k1l_: so what you're saying is that the installed packackages may have changed the systems files? or what is part of the official distribution?21:34
LostMyMindwhat would ubuntu-offtopic talk about? Sounds like a catch 2221:34
Chuominimec: are those the permissions it needs 660?21:34
k1l_adam_____: yes21:34
k1l_!ot | LostMyMind21:34
ubottuLostMyMind: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:34
adam_____ok.. so when I disable all the extras in sources, is there a way to revert the distro-affecting files (who cares if the stuff I added stops working)?21:35
minimecChuo: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/introduction_to_linux/linux_The_chmod_command.html21:35
qinSofS: I dont know, ff is no bigge right now. No worries about it.21:36
OerHeksadam_____, ppapurge21:36
Michael87Hey I am getting ready to begin a youtube channel. I am looking for a quallity webcam program. I love cheese but all its outputs are only webm and not mp4. is it recommended to record in webm and if so is there a way to increase the bitrates? I can go up to 720p on it but the output always has a bit of compression in the picture21:36
bray90820So i am trying to install ubuntu on my mac i can boot from 13.10 usb drive i made but i cant from 14.04-mac21:37
amedsomebody?21:37
qinMichael87: vlc?21:38
bray90820eventho i can boot 14.04-mac on my pc21:38
Chuominimec: the problem is I don't know what permissions it needs and don't even know why is blocked, I only installed base and it wouldn't run, I have the feeling that if I uninstall it it won't change the permissions.21:38
bray90820ubuntu-mac21:38
Michael87qin, vlc? never thought about tryying that thanks21:38
amedbray90820, i have fedora 20 in my Mac21:38
shartowhat differences in performance can i expect when enabling unity 8 and mir?21:38
k1l_sharto: it is a preview.21:38
amedi need help with auto mount a partition ext4, somebody?21:39
Bray90820fedore guy do you have any experience with ubuntu on a mac21:39
minimecChuo: 'mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice-bak' would rename it (backup). Launching libreoffice would then create a new one with the according rights you need.21:39
amedBray90820, use a ubuntu iso for mac21:40
dioioibbray90820: what are you looking for?21:40
Michael87qin, thank you for the advice. its a start wither or not vlc is the best choice21:40
shartok1l_: so it doesn't actually install unity 8 and mir?21:40
minimecChuo: 660 should do, I guess...21:41
Bray90820Well i made two usb installs one of 13.10 and one of 14,04 mac edition i can't seem to boot the 13.10 boot fine on my mac but 14.04 won't boot21:41
Bray9082014.04 boots on my pc tho21:41
k1l_sharto: it does. but its like a trailer comparing to a full movie21:41
Chuominimec: 660 didn't work. How do I delete the folder? is not rm is it21:42
k1l_sharto: please read the whole new and not just the headlines21:42
rwwe.g. the Unity 8 desktop UI is not finalized yet, so it's very tablet-y right now21:42
dioioibbray90820: so these are both bootable usb keys or HDs?21:42
shartok1l_: okay.. :[21:42
amedBray90820, mmm use https://scottlinux.com/2011/06/14/how-to-dual-boot-os-x-and-linux/21:42
qinMichael87: probably not best, but its all rounder and well documented and tested21:42
shartok1l_: thank you21:42
Bray90820dioioib: usb keys21:42
audictivertorrent21:43
dioioibbray90820: and how are you booting them now21:43
Bray90820Well on my mac i am holding down option key when i boot21:43
minimecChuo: 'mv' is better as it does rename the folder and you have a backup. 'rm' would indeed delete the file. 'chmod 777' would give full acces to everyone...21:44
dioioibbray90820: for 14.04 how is the key formated?21:44
amedC or D key to boot21:44
minimecChuo: Wait! 'chmod -R 660 ~/.config/libreoffice.21:44
Chuominimec: yeah but it doesn't matter because libre should create again, rm didn't work though21:45
Bray90820dioioib: do you mean partition type21:45
dioioibyes21:45
Bray90820dioioib: fat 3221:45
minimecChuo: '-R' apply changes to all the files in the folder. As I told you... 'mv' is always better.21:46
s7xHello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)21:46
dioioibbray90820: the only thing I could suggest trying are remake your key or try a boot manager like this http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/21:46
Bray90820dioioib: this is teh second time i am making the key21:47
dioioibwhat program did you use?21:47
dioioibI had someone in here the other day that ran into an issue using one of the programs that auto makes your usb keys21:47
Chuominimec: I used rm -r -f, it opens now21:48
Chuominimec: thanks21:48
minimecChuo: No problem ;)21:48
Bray90820dioioib: first i tried the one that came with ubuntu and then i tried Universal USB Installer on windows21:48
BrutusHi I got a new computer with ubuntu. i had 13.10 but couldn't get my network to work. i went out and got an intel card but that doesn't work either. no ip address. I now upgraded to 14.04 and I got an IP address. I can ping but I get around 12000ms to google com and 56% packet loss. The site itself won't load. I tested the computer with windows and that works just fine.21:50
Brutusjust ubuntu doesn't work21:50
dioioibbray90820: let me go over my chat logs. brbr21:50
Brutusother computers work just fine, also on that cable21:50
Brutushttp://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/faillog.txt21:51
Brutushttp://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/dmesg.txt21:52
Brutushttp://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/syslog.txt21:52
Bray90820dioioib: could it be that i am using the mac iso of 14.0421:52
dioioibto make your key? Well if you have tried both programs to burn the ISO at this point that would be the only difference between what you did and what he did.21:54
Bray90820dioioib: so should i just use the desktop version on my mac21:55
dioioibwhat version were you trying cloud or server?21:55
Bray90820dioioib: sorry i misspoke i am using the desktop version what i was asking is if i should use the non mac version21:56
OerHeksit depends on your apple machine, check the mactel pages > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages21:56
dioioibbray90820: do you know where to get your mac version code?21:57
Bray90820dioioib: do you mean like 8,1 or whatever21:58
dioioibye21:58
dioioibs21:58
Bray90820I will find it hang on21:58
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FreeWinhi ppl22:00
adam_____having so many packages, I'd like to know which ones are making the upgrade to 14.04 choke22:01
Bray90820dioioib: It's 8,122:01
adam_____this was not such a big headache going from 13.04 to 13.10.. grrrr22:01
Scriptonauthey guys, I'm having trouble using my mic22:01
OerHeksadam_____, backup your data and fresh install will be the fastest option, i guess22:01
ScriptonautCould somebody help me get ubuntu to recognize it?22:02
adam_____ugh..22:02
FreeWini have problems with live usb 14.04.422:02
dioioibbray90820: the support matrix says there really isn't a version that best supports your hardware.22:02
Scriptonautit's just one of those little audio jack mics, not usb22:02
FreeWin12.04.422:02
FreeWinmy bad :)22:02
Bray90820dioioib: so does that mean i shouldn't install ubuntu on it?22:02
adam_____too many things installed to just blast the whole machine22:02
OerHeksadam_____, we warn especially for PPA's, as these things can happen22:02
adam_____I would expect that with windows22:03
qinadam_____: one more reason to nuke it ;)22:03
OerHeksDon't blaim ubuntu.,22:03
adam_____I don't have windows22:03
dioioibbray90820: well if you do you might run into the odd issue with hardware. Just try your live boot and see what you can and can't do before you install it.22:03
FreeWin12.04.3 and 12.04.2 live usb works great but not 12.04.422:03
adam_____I'm not dual booting22:03
BrutusOerHeks: I'm blaming ubuntu that my netowrk isn't workin but if I install windows on it it works out of the box22:03
cknoxhmmmm22:03
Brutusit's like a reversed world on my pc22:03
Brutus:S22:03
Bray90820dioioib: Well on 12.04 i could do pretty much everything22:04
OerHeksBrutus, wired or wireless?22:04
Brutuswired22:04
dioioibbray90820: then you might want to stick with that version for now.22:05
Brutusi reinstalled with 14.04 now (was on 13.10 with no wired) and I finally get an ip22:05
qinBray90820: 12.04 is still supported... and 14.04 just came up, good habit to give it dry run before deploying22:05
Brutuswhen I ping google: 46% packetloss, time 12037ms22:05
Bray90820dioioib: Well i could just install 13.10 and upgrade to 14.04 but won't me the mac iso22:05
Brutuseverything else is working fine, windows on that same box works fine22:05
BrutusI'm getting so annoyed with this :S22:06
cknoxso apparently I can change the IP address on my router and not get disconnected?22:06
dioioibbray90820: looks like 13.04 is supported.22:06
bekksdioioib: 13.04 is EOL.22:06
BrutusOerHeks: enig idee?22:06
dioioibbekks: that sucks22:06
dioioibno listing for 13.1022:07
Bray90820dioioib: are you telling me not to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.1022:07
dioioibhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro22:07
BrutusOerHeks: I posted the dmesg, syslog and faillog a few minutes ago22:07
OerHeksBrutus so it works?22:07
minimecBrutus: is that a wired network or wifi. Internal device or USB?22:07
Brutusno it doesn't22:07
Brutusi can't do anything22:07
Brutusminimec: pci intel gt1000 pro card22:07
dioioibbray90820: I am saying that I wouldn't right now. qin's advice would be what I would do. Try it on live CD/DVD/USB and see if it works well before installing.22:08
qinBrutus: does ping 8.8.8.8 works any better?22:08
Brutusi get an ip, i can ping (with half of the packages being lost, huuuuuge ping) but can't reach anything22:08
OerHeksBrutus, ah that problematic intel 1000 NIC22:08
Brutusqin: already tried, same problem22:08
dioioibbut seeing as it doesn't even boot on your mac I think I would avoid it.22:08
BrutusOerHeks: getting the same problems with the internal card22:08
Brutusactually, not even getting an ip on that22:08
Brutus:S22:08
minimecBrutus: Can you give me the complete line of lspci for that card?22:08
Brutusminimec: i'm sorry?22:08
Bray90820dioioib: i can't really boot a live usb of ubuntu 14.0422:08
Brutusoh wait that's a command22:09
dioioibbray90820: do you have CD/DVD?22:09
Bray90820dioioib: the download is over 700MB and i don't have any free dvds22:09
Brutushttp://pastebin.com/esySLgyP22:10
Brutusminimec: that's the lspci22:10
Bray90820dioioib: i will just use 13.10 and upgrade to 14,04 if it doesn't work for me i will just remove it22:11
dioioibbray90820: that sounds like a plan.22:11
Brutuslivecd gives the same problems for me22:11
Brutus13.10 no ip address, nothing at all. 14.04 an ip address, just can't do anything with it22:12
Bray90820dioioib: what even is the difference between the mac and non mac iso22:12
dioioibbray90820: have you thought about installing it to a VM?22:12
Brutusmanually set 8.8.8.8 as dns, doesn't work, huge package loss, huge latency22:12
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dioioibbray90820: not much just some low level hardware and drivers mostly. There are limitations on bootable partitions that the OS sees too. you need special bootloaders to run on mac as well. With ufi booting things are supose to be easier though.22:13
jaksihi22:13
Bray90820dioioib: A vm a possibility but it just emulates the hardware from osx so it won't really tell me if something like bluetooth works or not22:14
Brutusminimec: any idea?22:14
dioioibbray90820: yeah that was the problem for me to I needed hardware access for some electronics work.22:14
jaksiI've got a small problem with ubuntu 14.04: sometimes the sound gets a little distorted for a few seconds22:14
jaksiI don't exactly know what's "triggering" it22:15
jaksiit occurs every few minutes22:15
minimecBrutus: Well I see that that special card is making problems for years now. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003512 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/30921122:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 309211 in linux (Ubuntu) "Intel Gibabit Ethernet NIC (82541PI) operating at 100Mbps instead of 1000Mbps after upgrading to Hardy" [Medium,Invalid]22:17
Brutuswell 100mbit would be an upgrade at this moment :S22:18
roy_Hi, was upgrading ubuntu on server by ssh an the terminal froze, I managed to ssh back into the server but it was half way through a upgrade how do I get it to carry on with the server upgrade?22:18
minimecBrutus: Some suggested to use a driver provided by Intel, but that was some years ago. I guess by now the linux kernel uses the best available module. You may be able to tune the card settings in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/82541PI.conf22:19
kostkonroy_: apt-get dist-upgrade?22:19
Brutusminimec: that file doesn't exist22:20
holsteinBrutus: you would need to create it, if you need it22:21
holsteinand you shouldnt22:21
Brutusoh22:21
holsteinBrutus: the kernel module is likely the "best" option22:21
Brutusholstein: i don't understand that last sentence22:21
holsteinBrutus: then, you would read about, and learn to tune from there, such as that file referenced22:21
cknoxI suppose I shouldn't change the IP address while I'm rsyncing stuff to the server should I?22:21
Brutuscknox: no you shouldn't22:22
minimecBrutus: I know. If there are some config options for the driver, you would have to place these options there.22:22
holsteinBrutus: the driver that is *already* in the kernel.. likely the "best", minimec is suggesting22:22
Brutusok this starts making less sense to me22:23
euryaleguys need help for installing amd apu driver in ubuntu.22:24
euryalei want to install the proprietary drivers for it.22:25
holsteineuryale: want or need? how are the open ones? they are usually "best"22:25
holstein!ati | euryale22:25
ubottueuryale: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto22:25
crocketI want to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10, but is the upgrade going to break PPA packages?22:25
roy_kostkon: wont let me, says its locked22:26
crocketPPA packages include graphic card driver.22:26
holsteincrocket: ppa's are not supported officially so, yes22:26
holsteincrocket: likely22:26
crockethell22:26
holsteincrocket: you upgrade, then add what you want/need back22:26
crocketI guess I want to upgrade after ensuring PPA packages don't break.22:27
euryale@holstein. i don't it seen kind of not laggy, the is not fluid?22:27
euryalewhat i mean was, the animation for window spread is not fluid, but it's not laggy.22:27
holsteineuryale: the proprietaru one could be worse.. dont expect it to fix anything22:27
holsteineuryale: try it and see22:27
minimecBrutus: Some suggested to load the driver like this "modprobe e1000 AutoNeg=0x28"22:27
euryaleok22:27
minimecBrutus: Try the following command ...22:31
minimecBrutus: echo "options e1000 TxIntDelay=0 TxAbsIntDelay=10 RxIntDelay=0 RxAbsIntDelay=10 InterruptThrottleRate=0 SmartPowerDownEnable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/e1000.conf22:31
Brutusminimec: that last one did something. i can now after the modprobe reach my internal network!22:31
Brutuswebsite of my router just loaded22:31
minimecBrutus: That creates a config file with some settings that might work...22:31
minimecBrutus: Source in german... at the end http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/netzwerkgeschwindigkeit-instabil-nur-rmmod-mod/22:32
atlasbladehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuqxj5YTA822:32
logyanyone knows which channel is for kali linux? (its not kali or backtrack)22:33
crockethuh22:34
crocketDoes ubuntu come with vdpau support?22:34
Brutusok i tried that minimec. my german is a bit rusty though22:35
Brutustook a while but google was loaded. progress has been made!22:35
crocketDoes ubuntu 14.04 come with vdpau support for nouveau?22:36
Brutusi did the line but it doesn't appear to have effect or should I do a reboot?22:36
minimecBrutus: Now reboot or simply unload/load the driver without any option. Maybe check that the e1000.conf file was created in /etc/modprobe.22:36
adam_____starting to see that libmono and anything that depends on it may be something to remove before upgrading to 14.0422:36
Brutusi'll just reboot, just as fast22:37
qinlogy: #kali-linux22:37
binBlobHi, I have some problems with perf : Failed to find path of kernel module. I did figure out that I need to set some soft links ... but from where ?22:38
binBlobI have installed the kernel sources and the debug packages22:39
Brutusminimec: did a reboot but didn't work. can't reach my internal network anymore either22:39
minimecBrutus: So delete that e1000.conf file again or try just to put 'options AutoNeg=0x28' in there instead of the 'junk' we have in there.22:42
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HzaDizjO22:43
adam_____anything in here that looks fishy?22:43
adam_____I still can't upgrade to 14.0422:43
adam_____there is an nvidea in there22:44
adam_____but I thought that would be disabled by disabling 3rd party sources on the update22:44
Brutusminimec: done, reboot and still the same22:45
minimecBrutus: ... or add that option to the other options?22:45
adam_____there is an nvidea in there22:45
Brutustakes a while before I can pin ganything22:45
Brutuscan do that as well22:45
Brutusone moment22:45
adam_____Bray90820: is that you, Tim?22:45
Bray90820adam_____: what did i do?22:46
adam_____lol.. nothing22:46
Bray90820adam_____: why did you ping me22:46
adam_____just wondering if it's you22:47
xanguaadam_____: did you run ppa-purge against all third party repository you have as you were told?22:47
adam_____you were trying trusty earlier22:47
Bray90820adam_____: If what is me22:47
trismadam_____: you might want to purge cinnamon, that's gone in 14.04, could be breaking on newer libs22:47
minimecBrutus: Well I guess that is all I can do for you. You know the mechanism now, how to put some driver options for a driver. Maybe search the for other options like 'e1000 /etc/modrobe.d/ options'. Arch and gentoo forums are a good source besides the ubuntu forums.22:47
adam_____Bray90820: wondering if you're Tim Bray22:48
Bray90820My name is Aaron22:48
adam_____trism: that's my next try22:48
OerHeksxangua, he had so many ppa's, i wonder if ppapurge could handle that, reverse to original packages22:48
Bray90820adam_____: my name is Aaron not Tim22:48
Brutuswould it help buying a better network card?22:49
adam_____Bray90820: no worries.. thought it would be an odd coincidence if it was22:49
cnnxI would like ubuntu users to check out my site http://www.freemysql.org if you are new to linux and databases.22:49
Bray90820Ok22:49
cnnxubuntu is what i usually recommend to new linux users22:50
adam_____...zapping cinnamon22:50
adam_____ouch22:51
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MKoiPfkn22:51
cnnxadam_____: what service is that?22:51
adam_____cinamon doesn't want to go22:51
minimecBrutus: it surely does, but verify linux support :)22:51
Brutusi will22:51
Brutusthanks for the help minimec22:51
adam_____cnnx: ?22:51
minimecBrutus: No problem.22:52
tannerstirrathey all22:53
johnjaaptitude was able to make my interrupted upgrade from Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 complete.  There seem to be some missing parts.  I no longer have a Gnome session (I can deal with that later) but I have no network connection.22:54
johnjaI have been using the onboard wired ethernet provided by my (possibly broken) ASRock 990FX Extreme3 as eth0.  I now don't seem to have an eth0.  Is this a software issue or a hardware issue?22:55
Tunixjohnja: what sais "lspci"?22:56
Tunixdoes your nic appear there?22:56
tylerburtoncaSo I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?22:57
johnjalspci finishes off by telling me I have Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57781 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)22:58
Tunixok, hardware is responding, try something like "ifconfig eth0 up"22:58
Tunixas root22:58
SKELETR0Nwhy does watching videos or css3 animations in firefox peg my cpu usage at 100%22:58
johnjaeth0 ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device22:59
johnjaeth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device22:59
Tunixstrange22:59
adam_____cinamon was the problem23:00
sig357Does anyone know the status of Cinnamon for 14.04?23:00
adam_____if you want an easy upgrade to 14.04, get rid of cinamon23:00
tootheHi, how do I upgrade my installation of python and python-twisted?23:00
adam_____thanks for the help everyone23:00
sig357I apologize if came late to an already discussed topic.23:01
sig357I did a clean instal23:01
SKELETR0Ni tried to do the update but it said i had apt-get open and it couldnt continue.. on a fresh boot :\23:01
Tunixjohnja: does "lsmod | grep tg3" output something?23:01
adam_____got rid of kde dependent stuff just in case and it zapped a whole bunch of stuff23:01
adam_____https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DHU9VFJT23:01
adam_____got rid of my digicam and hugin :/23:02
causativehey i just gotta say compiz annotations are pretty neat23:02
toothehow do I upgrade the version of python and twisted installed on my box?23:02
johnjaTunix: yes23:02
causativeyou can just draw on the screen anywhere, put notes or reminders for yourself23:02
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causativeI only wish the eraser was a clean eraser instead of a spraycan eraser23:03
Tunixjohnja: does "dmesg | grep -i tg3" output something?23:03
minimecjohnja: Did you try software&updates GUI and check for additional drivers. There seem to be a driver provided by Broadcom... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020496.html23:04
Scar3cr0wand why no 256 color capable terminal as default yet?23:04
toothehow do I upgrade twisted? I'm still using a very dated version.23:05
Tunixminimec: is Broadcom still that secretive regarding their specs?23:05
johnjaminimec: no, I'm currently without any network connectivity on this machine.23:06
minimecTunix: Let's say it like this. I never understood why they use a bradcom chip in the raspberry pi... ;)23:06
tylerburtoncaanyone had any luck getting autologin to work with the primary account (the one setup during installation)?23:07
johnjaminimec: if I don't neet network for that, please give me instructions in as much detail as possible.  I'm in an xubuntu desktop and not used to it.23:07
Tunixit could be worse...realtek anyone? ;) (those nics work on linux, though)23:07
causativeI'm using compiz annotations to just draw on my screen which terminal windows are what23:07
causativeso I can find them again easily23:07
minimecjohnja: You may be able to do the check even without network connection. You would at least know, if there is a driver available...23:07
adam_____ok.. doing the upgrade23:08
adam_____I'll add my missing stuff again after23:08
lasindiHi all, I just upgraded to 14.04 and the launch bar doesn't display the number of windows correctly. For example, if I start Firefox and then open a new window (for two total windows), there is only one white "tick" mark to the left of the firefox icon. If I then click on the firefox icon the two windows are shown and two ticks appear. If I select a window for focus and then close it, the two ticks are still there. Anyone else have this problem or a know23:08
lasindi a solution?23:08
OerHekstoothe, ubuntu 14.04 got 13.2.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python-twisted looks pretty recent23:09
tootheheh, I'm there right now :-)23:09
tootheI guess I don't know how to translate that into an apt-get command.23:09
tylerburtoncaSo I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?23:10
OerHekstoothe, compared with http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Downloads23:10
johnjaminimec:  I would like to try it, but don't understand how to do it.23:10
* Tunix is sipping from his third cocktail, is actually quite fun following this channel :P23:10
ziewhi, how to check if my laptop is 64 or 32bit - to know which version of linux to install?23:10
adam_____ugh.. this download will take 1 day and 17 hours23:10
adam_____is there a better way to get this upgrade done faster?23:11
Michael87so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?23:11
bekksadam_____: essentially no.23:11
tylerburtoncaziew, do you know which CPU model you have?23:11
Tunixadam_____: try using a mirror near you?23:11
adam_____wow.. pretty crazy23:11
minimecjohnja: Go to the system settings -> Software&updates. Check the additional drivers tab...23:11
Tunixadam_____: or upgrade your downlink ;)23:11
adam_____Tunix: in hawaii right now23:11
ziewtylerburtonca: dont know that (my laptop is ~3years old)23:11
adam_____at the mercy of the router here at the condo :)23:12
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OerHeksadam_____, type less, save bandwith23:12
tylerburtoncaziew, based on the age you very likely have a 64-bit processor. Which OS do you currently have installed?23:12
zubeI just downloaded the latest ubuntu.  Haven't used Ubuntu for a while, and can not for the life of me work out how to get a terminal open23:12
adam_____har har23:12
zubeanyone know?23:12
tylerburtoncazube, Ctrl+Alt+T23:12
ziewtylerburtonca: kubuntu 14.04 32bit23:12
leuApodo2hi everyone23:12
leurianhi all23:12
zubethanks tylerburtonca23:13
ziewtylerburtonca: but it runs quite slow so i startet to think why...23:13
Tunixzube: Ctrl-T23:13
johnjaminimec:  This only lists display drivers, nothing for ethernet.23:13
Tunixoops cttl-alt-t is, thanks tylerburtonca23:13
drakeymcdHey if anybody is nice enough to help me with an issue can you please help me? im trying to boot Ubuntu from GRUB 2.0 but i honestly dont know what to do xD23:14
tylerburtoncaziew, apparently if you run "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo" without quotes and it says "lm" (long mode) that is an indicator of 64bit CPU23:14
ziewtylerburtonca: it says "lm" amongst others, "tm" is also there23:15
adam_____"do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-upgrade -d"?23:15
Michael87I just now did the hotcorner option that I get with unity tweak tool and it stuck in the spreadsheet window. I'm all thinking what the hell. Hit the windows button on my laptop got out of it. pain in the ass23:15
tylerburtoncaziew, you should be at least able to install 64bit, however it may not be the best choice. How much RAM does your system have?23:16
ziewtylerburtonca: 4GB od RAM23:16
minimecjohnja: So nothing available for your Card... The broadcom site might help for a driver. I guess I cannot help you further. http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink_k57.php23:16
ziewtylerburtonca: will 64 kubuntu 14.04. work faster than 32bit?23:17
Michael87so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?23:17
minimecjohnja: There is indeed a tg3 driver for linux...23:17
TunixDue to force of habit I have upgraded all my boxes via "apt-get dist-upgrade". Don't know what "do-release-upgrade" does better...23:18
adam_____did it without the developer option23:19
DrummitHey all....having trouble installing conky-manager.  Terminal says it cant be found?  I tried the conky irc, but is dead...23:19
tylerburtoncaziew, its hard to say. Depending on the CPU chip 64bit *can* be faster but its not a sure thing. Also something to keep in mind is that running 64bit programs will use slightly more memory and may require more trips to RAM as a result (its very technical but I'm trying to make it as simple as possible). Long-story short YMMV23:19
Leo_Vertohow do I install mono on 14.04?23:19
adam_____It'll do it's thing over the next 2 days I guess23:19
adam_____Leo_Verto: best to build it23:20
Leo_Vertomkay23:20
Leo_Vertothanks, I'll try that then23:20
SonikkuAmericaTunix: do-release-upgrade upgrades Ubuntu to the next version.23:20
Leo_Vertoassuming I'm able to resolve this dual-boot situation23:20
adam_____Leo_Verto: mono is always updating stuff, so better to be able to work off the source for it23:20
TunixSonikkuAmerica: so does apt-get dist-upgrade23:21
adam_____Leo_Verto: why do you need dual boot? I'm running Windows in virtualbox with no issues23:21
SonikkuAmerica!dist-upgrade | Tunix, I beg to differ23:21
ubottuTunix, I beg to differ: A dist-upgrade will install new dependencies for packages already installed and may remove packages if they are no longer needed. This will not bring you to a new release of Ubuntu, see !upgrade if that is your intention.23:21
Leo_Vertoadam_____, I installed Windows first and use both OSes actively23:21
tylerburtoncaLeo_Verto, you may also be able to just install mono-runtime and have it pull in the rest for you. Not sure which version ships with 14.04 though23:21
adam_____Leo_Verto: I use both as well23:21
Tunixthat bot is wrong...14.04 it is ;)23:22
adam_____ubuntu is much better as base os23:22
adam_____had it the other way around before23:22
tylerburtoncaAnyone able to get auto-login to work. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?23:22
adam_____folder shares work well, etc23:22
adam_____pass-through USB, etc23:22
Leo_Vertowould you recommend virtualbox over vmware?23:23
Tunixi think i have to inspect do-release-upgrade's source to detect any REAL differences23:23
adam_____yes23:23
minimecLeo_Verto: I tend to vmware23:23
ziewtylerburtonca: i think i'll try to install 64bit ubuntu and figure out which one runs better23:23
adam_____I support free stuff and opensource if possible23:23
adam_____was meaning to switch to the linux one anyway23:23
adam_____for the last 2 years this set up has been golden23:24
* Tunix looked at the unity-greeter source and cringed23:24
ziewbtw. how to enable java in chromium? (i've installed java-7 already and it works with firefox, but not with chromium)23:24
adam_____the amount of reboots that windows forces, it's better for it to be in the vm23:24
adam_____it's really good to have both running23:25
adam_____I usually move over to ubuntu side to do git commands23:25
adam_____way quicker23:25
adam_____so best of both worlds if running side by side. Long deserted the dual boot thing23:25
Leo_VertoI used to have a dual-boot installation before, kinda broke my graphic drivers back then and used only win with linux in vms for a while23:26
adam_____although I'm actively moving to where I'm not using Windows at all23:26
Leo_Vertobut 14.04 has made some pretty cool changes which made me go back to ubuntu again23:26
Leo_VertoUbuntu One gone, automatic TRIM support and all those handy unity changes23:27
jamesmcveityI'm wondering if full disk encryption/LVM is best practice? I'm just trying to figure out what is most common.  I'm installing on a laptop.  Need to be able to share files with others.23:28
adam_____TRIM is just a cron job now :)23:28
adam_____Leo_Verto: think about the fact that you don't need to defrag23:28
adam_____I also like xubuntu23:29
Leo_VertoI got my SSD only recently23:29
TunixUbuntu One was way too slow anyway23:29
Leo_Vertobut this setup is pretty nice, except for that orphaned mint installation I found today23:29
minimecjamesmcveity: There was an article on www.phoronix.com recently. Full encryption is much better than only encryption of the /home partition. Much better performance.23:29
tylerburtoncaziew, good luck!23:29
adam_____used xubuntu on one of my other machines.. very nice although didn't have some of the window stapping shortcuts I wanted23:29
tylerburtoncajamesmcveity, what do you by "share files with others"?23:30
adam_____Leo_Verto: I highly recommend trying an all ubuntu install with Windows quaranteened to a VM23:30
Tunixadam_____: you can configure that pretty well23:30
johnjaI decided to assume my 2 month old ASRock POS motherboard is dead and plugged in an old PCIe ethernet card.  This seems to work just fine.  What package do I need to install to get gnome back?23:30
adam_____you can snapshot, turn off network23:30
Leo_Vertoadam_____, will probably do that the next time Windows requires a reinstallation23:30
adam_____really good for running iffy software23:31
adam_____windows is full of viruses23:31
adam_____speed boost is great too23:31
adam_____linux flies on modern hardware23:31
ziewtylerburtonca: thank you23:31
jamesmcveitytylerburtonca: I just what to make sure that if I create a file on an encrypted drive that the data will be editable on another user's system.23:31
adam_____Leo_Verto: I've never looked back.. being free of windows as the ultimate OS is amazing23:32
AnthonyUKHi people, I was wondering should I stick with 12.04 for the while until more how to's come out as I'm finding it a struggle to get things working like vnc and shared folders with windows23:32
Drummitno advice on conky manager not installing?23:32
jamesmcveityminimec: Thanks. I'm tracking the article down.23:32
euryaleguys i want to record my desktop as video, what software do u recommend for ubuntu?23:32
Tunixwindows 8.x runs pretty smooth, too, but that metro stuff is awkward23:32
OerHeks!info recordmydesktop23:33
ubotturecordmydesktop (source: recordmydesktop): Captures audio-video data of a Linux desktop session. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8.1+svn602-1ubuntu3 (trusty), package size 54 kB, installed size 148 kB23:33
Drummiteurryale: simple screen recorder, vokoscreen, record my desktop23:33
euryaleok thank ubottu, will try.23:33
tylerburtoncajamesmcveity, once you've logged in and 'unlocked' the encryption its smart enough to know that any file you copy away from your PC (to a USB stick or whatever) should be copied without the encryption so you shouldn't have any trouble there23:33
adam_____Tunix: no deal.. giving up an OpenSource platform for no gains (in my view)23:33
euryaleoh is this a command line program?23:34
jamesmcveitytylerburtonca: Thanks. I've always overlooked the option and I've been having troubling finding novice level info on why and how it works.23:35
minimecjamesmcveity: I am just digging it again. Just have a look on page 4 of the article for example ... ;) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_encryption&num=423:35
tylerburtoncajamesmcveity, the easiest way, if perhaps not the most correct way, to think about it is that anything you configure to be encrypted when you configure the encryption will stay encrypted, but anything else (i.e. an external drive, an e-mail attachment, etc.) won't be23:36
hesiodobrand new trusty!23:36
leurian_hi everyonee!!23:36
adam_____hi23:37
leurianhelo l!23:37
Tunixadam_____: i develop for windows during work time, for linux during free time23:37
Drummithello23:37
adam_____Tunix: yep.. same23:37
jamesmcveityminimec: Great! thanks.23:37
adam_____but changing that asap23:37
tylerburtoncaminimec, yeah that was a good article unfortunately for my home server I ended up just doing home directory encryption because I wanted it to autologin... which kind of defeats the purpose of encryption in the first place but whatever haha23:37
adam_____hence my vm for windows23:37
adam_____total PITA for how heavy the dev env is23:37
minimectylerburtonca: It definitely does ;)23:38
adam_____#golang is a great gateway away from .net to linux23:38
tylerburtoncaminimec, hey at least I get the swap encryption which I think gets a new key every boot23:38
jamesmcveitytylerburtonca, If you set a password for the disk encryption, is it also necessary to have the user login option as well?23:38
adam_____with intellij CE and golang plugin, it's the same experience as in VS23:39
adam_____but all on Linux23:39
tylerburtoncajamesmcveity, entirely up to you. At that point you have some options based on how you prefer things to be :)23:39
mkeerI just installed Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T540p. Facing many issues: Touchpad barely works (kind of shaky, can't right click or middle click)... Doesn't stay connected to wifi or can't connect to it. The boot selection menu doesn't let me boot into windows (I need to change BIOS options to switch back and forth)...23:40
snadgei just got kicked out of ubuntu-release-party and ubuntu+1 ... its like.. once a new ubuntu comes out.. theres all this love.. then no love :p23:40
jamesmcveitytylerburtonca, thanks.  Much appreciated.23:40
tylerburtoncajamesmcveity, np23:40
k1l_snadge: you will get used to it :)23:40
jamesmcveityminimec, thanks again.23:40
glumetuhello can i have back wine1.4 ?23:41
minimectylerburtonca: I do not encrypt until now, but after having read the article... I might...23:41
minimecjamesmcveity: No problem.23:41
crocketI failed to upgrade ubuntu because PPA packages overrode ubuntu packages.23:41
crocketdamn23:41
k1l_glumetu: install wine1.4 package23:41
snadgeso the period of time between a stable release.. and the next release announce.. there's all these ubuntu addicts.. who are cast out onto the street.. homeless, with nowhere to go23:41
snadge:P23:41
k1l_snadge: we got #ubuntu-offtopic for that :)23:42
Tunixppas and upgrades...fun...all night...23:42
crocketShould I manually install ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall packages?23:42
edgardoHola Gente soy nuevo alguno habla español. soy de Argentina23:42
k1l_!ar | edgardo23:42
ubottuedgardo: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe23:42
adam_____crocket: just dealt with that today23:42
xtjacobDoes anyone have experience with bad packet loss on a ralink 5390? I'm running 14.04.23:42
adam_____need a hand?23:42
crocketadam_____, How did you do it?23:42
adam_____you can see the log23:43
k1l_crocket: use ppapurge to get rid of that ppas and packages. that will reinstall the oroginal ubuntu pakcages23:43
tux_good evening people so who is using 14.04 lts23:43
k1l_!ppapurge | crocket23:43
ubottucrocket: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html23:43
k1l_tux_: a lot of users are. but better ask a real support question :)23:43
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tylerburtoncaminimec, the performance impact is so little I don't see why not. Also on SSDs where the drive controller does automatic wear leveling if you ever don't use encryption you can't be 100% sure that you'll ever be able to override that old data.23:44
Tunixis the code name of 14.10 already out?23:45
k1l_Tunix: not that i am aware of23:45
minimectylerburtonca: As I told you... I might ;) You're absolutely right... I have a Intel 240GB msata SSD in my Lenovo x230...23:46
* Tunix favors Unuoccupied Unicorn23:46
MHodgeWould anyone know what causes Ubuntu 14.04 to crash after waking?23:46
k1l_MHodge: best is to see the logs and not to guess :)23:46
glumetuk1l when i do apt-get install wine1.4 it installs 1.623:47
adam_____crocket: i did it without ppa purge23:47
SonikkuAmericaglumetu: Umm... that's a good thing.23:47
glumetuit should be but it doesn;t work for me23:47
SonikkuAmerica!info wine23:47
ubottuwine (source: wine1.6): Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (meta-package). In component universe, is extra. Version 1:1.6.2-0ubuntu4 (trusty), package size 0 kB, installed size 21 kB (Only available for i386; amd64)23:47
MHodgeI'll do that. :)23:47
SonikkuAmericaglumetu: And why not?23:47
crocketadam_____, How?23:48
k1l_glumetu: well yes, just saw it redirects to wine 1.6 in trustsy23:48
minimecMHodge: You might be able to check that yourself. Try to disable bluetooth & wifi for a try and then suspend. The two are often the source of problems. Also some USB devices like DVB cards might be the cause...23:48
adam_____crocket: do the install with "sudo do-release-update"23:48
glumetulet's say they did sommeting with connection and 1.6 doesn't let my app connect to internet23:48
adam_____it will error out after a bit23:48
adam_____press 'x' to exit23:49
darkangelhow does 1 host a website with ubuntu 14.0423:49
glumetui would like to stick with the old realy stable wine1.423:49
MHodgeI disable wifi and unfortunately I lost the drivers for my bluetooth. :(23:49
AnthonyUKanyone know of a guide/how to for shared folders on windows that will work in 14.04?23:49
adam_____then paste the output of "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" using pastebin23:49
adam_____We'll take a look and see if you have any fishy stuff installed23:50
adam_____we'll "sudo apt-get remove" them23:50
crocketadam_____, I have overriden graphics driver and some system packages.23:50
crocketadam_____, I think ppa-purge would be faster.23:50
adam_____ok23:50
adam_____then do that.. for me it was cinnamon23:51
adam_____if you don't purge and just remove, when you reinstall, the settings should still be there23:51
adam_____anyway.. it seemed ppa-purge wasn't enough for me23:52
k1l_well, cinnamon is put out of the debian and ubuntu repos.23:52
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SonikkuAmericak1l_: Cinnamon is gone? For good?23:53
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adam_____there was a few others I removed23:53
nf7Could someone help me? I follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx , but my stick doesn't appear in the list of bootable devices when I boot my Mac. It will work on a regular PC though. And I am using the 14.04+Mac version of the iso.23:53
adam_____did a chunk of them by gettingrid of kde23:53
trismSonikkuAmerica: not for good it was moved to debian unstable, might see it in 14.1023:54
k1l_SonikkuAmerica: yep. mate is now in the repos, iirc23:54
adam_____need to reinstall a few things now23:54
* minimec just wants to share his happiness with you. Playing and chatting on a Toshiba ac100 KitKat/14.04 dual boot. Thats an ARM/Tegra2 device with 512MB RAM! e17 is running really well. Cool little baby. OK... It's offtopic ;)23:54
euryalehi guys!23:54
basketballcan i get google desktop version in ubuntu23:54
euryaleinstalled the amd 13.4 driver in ubuntu23:55
Tunixminimec: grats23:55
euryalei got an error log. but havent read that because it needed to reboot, and so i did, but now can't login to gui.23:55
glumetucongratulation ubuntu team .. verry fast boot time23:55
nf7Can anyone help me with my Mac installation problem?23:55
* adam_____ happy about never buying into the Apple hype23:55
Tunixe17 is strange though23:55
tylerburtoncaAnyone able to get auto-login to work? I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?23:56
minimecTunix: The 'linux community' is just great. We use uboot instead of android fastboot now and I can use 3.14 or even 3.15 kernels on ubuntu. Android is stillon 3.1...23:56
euryale@Holstein. Can u help me remove the proprietary driver for amd?23:56
MHodgetylerburtonca, was the Auto Login enabled when you installed the OS?23:57
minimeceuryale: sudo apt-get purge fglrx23:57
glumetueuryale you can do that from software center23:57
euryaleim currently at tty, i have no access to desktop since intalling the amd driver.23:58
minimeceuryale: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' afterwards.23:58
k1l_euryale: did you try nomodeset?23:58
tylerburtoncaMHodge, I don't believe I ever had the option23:58
Tunixfglrx brings up bad memories...23:58
euryaleno i havent tried nomodeset.23:58
euryalemaybe i'll just remove it to be safe, i don't want to reinstall ubuntu again.23:59
MHodgetylerburtonca: It should have been on the same page when you set up your computer name and password before installing.23:59
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minimecI would even go further... AMD brings up bad memories...23:59
tylerburtoncaMHodge, hmm well either way its installed now but the option is not there for that one particular account in Settings > Users23:59
euryale@minimec. after purging fglrx it will go back to default drivers?23:59
minimeceuryale: Yes.23:59

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