[00:00] <scoffin> heh.  It does seem to connect into the 14.4 machine IF i give the IP address.  But the windows "network" menu does not show the machine
[00:01] <euryale> the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:02] <scoffin> that means that the ubuntu box is not advertising its presence
[00:02] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, same... at least with ufw on I can see the log..
[00:03] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, mines not quite connecting with ufw one still
[00:03] <euryale> the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:03] <scoffin> this might just be a 14.4 bug ???
[00:04] <d1rkp1tt> Modify these entries:
[00:04] <d1rkp1tt> Network security: LAN Manager authentication level Send LM & NTLM responses
[00:04] <d1rkp1tt> Minimum session security for NTLM SSP Disable Require 128-bit encryption
[00:04] <d1rkp1tt> I did do that in Windows...
[00:04] <d1rkp1tt> security policies
[00:04] <electricprism> Is there any reason I would want to use BTRFS over EXT4?
[00:04] <rww> electricprism: no
[00:04] <electricprism> Is there any reason I would want to use BTRFS over EXT4?
[00:04] <rww> electricprism: no
[00:05] <electricprism> lol bot
[00:05] <rww> electricprism: lol repeating yourself
[00:05] <scoffin> d1rkp1tt: where should I do these changes?  in the 14.4 network mgr?
[00:05] <electricprism> your response was so quick, i assumed you were a bot
[00:06] <Meris> Good night, I'm going to sleep, thank you for contributing to the community
[00:07] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, I did those in windows 8
[00:07] <d1rkp1tt> ... not sure if it made a difference, but I changed the local security policy
[00:07] <d1rkp1tt> I think it allows samba handshake
[00:07] <d1rkp1tt> "I think"
[00:08] <Dan1_> hi, I am planning to but a AMD Radeon 7750 DDR5 GPU, but just a little concerned about past experiences with AMD/ATI cards with Ubuntu, I am curretly using a Nvidia card without any problem, so should I consider buying 7750 by AMD or look at Nvidia alternatives, any help would be appreciated. also do I have to use Closed-source fglrx drivers?
[00:08] <d1rkp1tt> but still that doesnt explain other devices not seeing it
[00:08] <Dan1_> *buy
[00:08] <scoffin> I have tested from a Fedora 20 box, same behavior, so probably not a win8 config error
[00:08] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, what happens if you do sudo apt-get install samba
[00:08] <scoffin> yeah, I installed that.  now says "already installed"
[00:08] <euryale> the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:09] <euryale>  the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:09] <ntviet18> time
[00:12] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, this firewalls annoying me.. cant connect with it on
[00:13] <scoffin> I'm beginning to think this is just a 14.4 bug, maybe wait a few weeks :-)
[00:13] <Dan1_> *14.04
[00:15] <Dan1_> hi, I am planning to buy a AMD Radeon 7750 DDR5 GPU, but just a little concerned about past experiences with AMD/ATI cards with Ubuntu, I am curretly using a Nvidia card without any problem, so should I consider buying 7750 by AMD or look at Nvidia alternatives, any help would be appreciated. also do I have to use Closed-source fglrx drivers?
[00:16] <d1rkp1tt> well mines fine with firewall off
[00:17] <d1rkp1tt> I wonder if yours is shares permissions
[00:17] <d1rkp1tt> but then I can see the print service etc
[00:18] <scoffin> yeah, I can connect using the IP address and "map network drive" (win8) and with "smbclient" (Fedora 20) with the firewall disabled
[00:18] <scoffin> but no joy using the "browse network" GUI from either win8 or Fedora
[00:20] <scoffin> could also be caused by a nmbd config error so that the machine name is not advertised
[00:20] <Jordan_U> BillyBag2: Did the "sudo dpkg --configure -a" command at least seem to take some time?
[00:20] <jitsusama> scoffin: nmbd is the culprit.
[00:21] <scoffin> d1rkp1tt: this seems like a very helpful discussion....  thanks!  learned a lot
[00:21] <jitsusama> nmbd is what advertises your computer name via broadcast to the network.
[00:21] <jitsusama> Without that, other computers can't automagically discover your fileserver.
[00:21] <fisch246> oh wow, so i looked up how the backup is doing... apparently I have over 3600 volumes... Well at least it's almost done, and I'll be able to get a system back soon ;-;
[00:21] <scoffin> I know nmbd is running, but I did not get to the smb.conf yet
[00:21] <jitsusama> nmbd used to have its own config file.
[00:22] <jitsusama> nmbd.conf or something.
[00:22] <d1rkp1tt> I did do something with nautilus just now
[00:22] <d1rkp1tt> .. hmm now what did I do
[00:22] <jitsusama> If you run Wireshark on your Windoze box you should be able to sniff out whether any NetBios broadcast packets are being sent out.
[00:22] <jitsusama> I'm guessing not.
[00:22] <d1rkp1tt> oh just attempted to set perms as root, not my user
[00:22] <d1rkp1tt>  gksudo nautilus
[00:22] <euryale> I got a problem, the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:23] <scoffin> jitsusama: yeah, my network is fine, its just the 14.4 box that is ill
[00:23] <jitsusama> I'm more meaning, running Wireshark will tell you whether nmbd is advertising anything.
[00:24] <scoffin> I will try that, good advice
[00:24] <jitsusama> Packet captures is where I spend my work-days, so I always look at the packets first :)
[00:25] <jitsusama> You can also look at netstat -ul on your server.
[00:25] <t4ng0> hello guys, how to remove unity on 14.04 and use MATE?
[00:25] <jitsusama> You should see some LISTENing ports opened for nmbd.
[00:25] <Slart> Anyone know how to modify mime-types or whatever so I can drag/drop swf-files to my firefox window again?
[00:26] <jitsusama> If not, then it's probably not binding right.
[00:26] <jitsusama> netstat -pul actually.
[00:26] <jitsusama> That'll show which pid owns it.
[00:27] <scoffin> jitsusama: now I'm running with ufw disabled, so should be open
[00:27] <solid_liq> so 14.04 was released early?
[00:27] <rww> solid_liq: no
[00:27] <euryale> I got a problem, the sound server isn't running, i check the sound settings and my device is not there.
[00:27] <solid_liq> rww, it's released, right?
[00:27] <jitsusama> ufw will just filter packets, netstat -pul will show you if you have an application listening.
[00:27] <rww> it was released on the 17th, which was its scheduled release date
[00:27] <solid_liq> rww, oh, I thought it had be scheduled for the 21st
[00:28] <jitsusama> nmbd listens for broadcasts from other computers, and sends out its own broadcasts. Using netstat will verify whether he's listening or not.
[00:28] <jitsusama> If he's not listening, its a good sign that he's not sending either.
[00:28] <boldfilter1> How do you enable the click to minimize in unity 14.04
[00:28] <Artemis3> t4ng0, i suggest install using the ubuntu-minimal iso with the command line only option, and then sudo apt-get install mate-desktop
[00:29] <trepido> Hi all! I need some help with my Java IDE on Ubuntu 13.10 64 bit
[00:30] <scoffin> jitsusama:  I'm definitely thinking the broadcast
[00:30] <boldfilter1> OMG, so much better
[00:30] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, im gonna have to watch this on wireshark to figure out what to open in the firewall
[00:30] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, Ive opened tonnes of ports lol
[00:30] <trepido> Either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file menu) does not work
[00:30] <boldfilter1> wts
[00:31] <deekej> hey guys! :) Can I have a quick question? What type of package should I choose for compiled gcc with bazaar? (ingle binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch?)
[00:31] <deekej> I guess single binary, but I'm not sure...
[00:31] <scoffin> I really don't mind keeping the firewall off, since I'm behind a regular firewall also
[00:33] <scoffin> jitsusama: do you know what options in smb.conf are used to set the nmb broadcasts?
[00:33] <t4ng0> artemis3, does ubuntu-minimal.iso is 14.04 pakage?
[00:33] <fisch246> and... backup fails from running out of space...
[00:34] <fisch246> not even a warning
[00:34] <boldfilter1> *Switches unity icons to 26. Creams on self
[00:34] <fisch246> reminds me of an upgrade i did in the past
[00:34] <fisch246> no notifications
[00:35] <Jordan_U> deekej: I don't understand the question. Could you please try to rephrase it?
[00:35] <d1rkp1tt> sudo ufw allow samba worked.. but I dont know the scope of what that just did... doh
[00:36] <scoffin> d1rk: that is documented, try google
[00:36] <LarrySteeze> hello folks
[00:36] <d1rkp1tt> looks like its just allowed from everywhere
[00:36] <scoffin> but it is the preferred way to open the right ports IIRC
[00:37] <deekej> Jordan_U: ok, I will try. I compiled the latest gcc-4.8.2, which I need. And I want to create a .deb package from it using bazaar (bzr), taken from this tutorial: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/getting-set-up.html
[00:37] <d1rkp1tt> I dont want that... should at least limit to hosts on the LAN, even though my firewall blocks others
[00:37] <JaKoby> hi guys
[00:38] <deekej> Jordan_U: Now I'm at the part where I started creating the package. And the bazaar (bzr) asks me, what type of package am I creating. (Type of package: single binary, indep binary, multiple binary, library, kernel module, kernel patch? [s/i/m/l/k/n])
[00:38] <scoffin> d1rkp1tt:  yeah, there is an option in smb.conf to restict access to a set of IP addresses.  I use 192.168.0 and 192,168.1
[00:38] <Dave-Maydew> Can I mention I've found a memory leak in Ubuntu 14.04??
[00:38] <jitsusama> scoffin: I'm pretty sure it's a separate config file.
[00:38] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, found the correct command to reduce scope
[00:38] <JaKoby> every thing seems to go well with installation
[00:38] <d1rkp1tt> ;)
[00:38] <deekej> Jordan_U: I guess it should be single binary (s), but I'm not sure.
[00:38] <trepido> Hi! I have a nagging problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file menu) does not work
[00:39] <scoffin> jitsusama:  OK, I will look into that
[00:39] <deekej> Jordan_U: huh, sorry, wrong link, this one is the correct: http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/packaging-new-software.html
[00:39] <JaKoby> but when when i start it up i get : could not load /lib/modules/3.11.0-12-generic/modules.dep no duch file directory
[00:39] <Dave-Maydew> So on top of the auto mounting USB device Bug, there's a memory leak
[00:40] <celtha_> hi all any have problems with resolution on integrated graphic card, intel i5-4670 ??
[00:41] <scoffin> jitsusama: the nmbd man page specified smb.conf as the config file for nmbd also
[00:42] <lagbox> did they ever remove the hardcoding from Chromium Tab UI for font size yet ?
[00:42] <euryale> thanks for nothing.
[00:42] <Dave-Maydew> I know that feeling
[00:42] <Jordan_U> deekej: What are you packaging?
[00:42] <jitsusama> Ok scoffin, I'm obviously outdated.
[00:43] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, done..
[00:43] <scoffin> no, you gave some useful ideas
[00:43] <scoffin> d1rk: everything working now?
[00:43] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, yes
[00:43] <scoffin> cool
[00:43] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, I am in the windows workgroup..
[00:43] <JaKoby> cant get ubuntu to load after an install anyone willing to help a newb???
[00:44] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, also, same user on the other machine?
[00:44] <JaKoby> not loading the modules.dep
[00:44] <scoffin> yeah, same user
[00:44] <JaKoby> no such file directory
[00:44] <JaKoby> everything said it installed correctly
[00:44] <deekej> Jordan_U: latest stable gcc (4.8.2)
[00:45] <jitsusama> So, scoffin, I'm not sure exactly where to look. I haven't messed with Samba in a coons age.
[00:45] <jitsusama> I would try turning on as much debugging as you can though to see why it isn't loading right.
[00:46] <Dave-Maydew> So what can be done about - no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[00:46] <scoffin> its ok, I got enough to work with;  and d1rk got it working so its probably a bug in my config
[00:46] <scoffin> thanks to both of you; samba always give me grief
[00:47] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, I could share my config?
[00:48] <scoffin> sure, put it on a pastebin?
[00:48] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, also, I assume they are all plugged into the same router, switch, hub?
[00:48] <trepido> Hi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work
[00:48] <scoffin> yeah, simple network
[00:48] <d1rkp1tt> ok, wheres the smb.conf lol
[00:48] <scoffin> /etc/samba
[00:49] <Arcantos> que informacion tienen de nueva
[00:50] <koell> does ubuntu has an offtopic channel?
[00:50] <Beldar> koell, #ubuntu-offtopic
[00:50] <aidrocsid1> I did chmod 700 on my home folder, it's not good. What can I do to undo it?
[00:50] <Arcantos> wonderful is moment very important for world
[00:51] <Dave-Maydew> Isn't it a good job I have patience
[00:51] <Dave-Maydew> waiting for a reply to my last question and the UAS issue
[00:51] <tgm4883> aidrocsid1, you'd have to chmod it to something else
[00:52] <Arcantos> i can see underworld..
[00:52] <tgm4883> aidrocsid1, default is 755
[00:52] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, sent pm
[00:53] <scoffin> got it, thanks for your efforts
[00:53] <aidrocsid1> ty tgm
[00:53] <Arcantos> XD
[00:53] <Arcantos> XDd
[00:53] <Arcantos> jejejejeje
[00:55] <Dave-Maydew> Ah well, looks like one more re-install of 14.04 then it's back to 12.04
[00:55] <Arcantos> i like need more cash and time and live
[00:55] <Dave-Maydew> way to many bugs it seems in an LTS
[00:56] <d1rkp1tt> scoffin, sweet good luck
[00:56] <Arcantos> harascho panimaesh?
[00:56] <LarrySteeze> Anyone else experience a GUI that gives a cursor but nothing else after updating?
[00:56] <tgm4883> Dave-Maydew, I'd point out that you are before the first point release
[00:56] <LarrySteeze> Switching to console gives me absolutely everything, but the GUI is worthless
[00:57] <Dave-Maydew> first point release??
[00:57] <scoffin> t, you too...      got to go now
[00:57] <tgm4883> Dave-Maydew, in 3 months, there will be another 14.04 iso, eg. 14.04.1
[00:57] <ddsss> how would I enable system sounds?
[00:57] <tgm4883> which will have a bunch of fixes in it
[00:57] <Dave-Maydew> so we have to wait 3 months for UAS Automounting and the memory leak to be fixed??
[00:58] <Dave-Maydew> I'm definitely going back to 12.04 then
[00:58] <tgm4883> no
[00:58] <Arcantos> He Regresado no fue facil
[00:58] <Dave-Maydew> no to which one?
[00:58] <tgm4883> Dave-Maydew, the fix will be in the regular repos. I'm just pointing out that you are expecting stability from a brand new OS
[00:59] <trepido> Any ideas on the Eclipse IDE menuitems and right click ?
[00:59] <rww> Arcantos: something we can help you with?
[00:59] <tgm4883> Dave-Maydew, while that may be the ideal we're shooting for, I don't know believe it's realistic to expect that of any OS
[00:59] <Dave-Maydew> I'm just perplexed to why Canonical shipped an OS that the UAS didn't work from the word go
[01:00] <tgm4883> Dave-Maydew, I'd bet that it works for quite a few people. Can you link to your bug report?
[01:01] <dark_samus> Hi I'm trying to set up a dial-up modem (yes I know who still uses that) its one of those sound card modems, I'm having some issues setting it up, anyone willing to help, its Ubuntu 12.10 again old but it was what I had I'll have to take it somewhere and update it at some point
[01:02] <tgm4883> !eol | dark_samus
[01:03] <Imrael> I know it is easy to upgrade from 13.xx to 14.40, but is it possible to upgrade from 12.10 to 14.40 without having to install from DVD or SD card?
[01:03] <dark_samus> Yeah don't have the internet speed atm, but I'm pretty sure it'll be the same procedure even on newer versions
[01:03] <tgm4883> Imrael, no, you'd need to reinstall
[01:03] <Chuo> Hey guys on 14.04 and I'm having issues, I tried to create the packages for the ati drivers but it gives me an error that I can't tell which package I'm missin http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280170/ some help?
[01:03] <tgm4883> Imrael, 13.10 -> 14.04 or 12.04 -> 14.04
[01:04] <Imrael> I was afraid of that. :) Thanks for the help. I appreciate it!
[01:04] <rww> Imrael: depends. do you find upgrading 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 possible?
[01:04] <chesedix> Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places.
[01:04] <Dave-Maydew> I believe it's been reported, as I'm not the only one that's having issues with Automounting external devices
[01:04] <rww> chesedix: something we can help you with?
[01:04] <chesedix> Their pumping oceans of oil out of the ground. Creating continent size sink holes
[01:04] <Dave-Maydew> I've blacklisted UAS and it worked for a while, now it's just not working again
[01:04] <Arcantos> i need luntubu install
[01:04] <tgm4883> Chuo, looks like devscripts
[01:05] <Imrael> How would I go to 13.04? I have tried using the update system, but it does not show that as an option.
[01:05] <chesedix> Another giant earthquake today.
[01:05] <rww> chesedix: This is an Ubuntu technical support channel. We are not particularly interested in bible quotes or earthquakes.
[01:05] <tgm4883> !eol | Imrael
[01:05] <dark_samus> I'm screwing around with slmodemd for the modem and it reports no dialtone
[01:05] <Arcantos> i like
[01:05] <dark_samus> I can dial in windows
[01:05] <Chuo> What is the name of the package? devscripts?
[01:05] <Arcantos> thanks
[01:05] <tgm4883> Chuo, yes
[01:05] <Arcantos> bye
[01:05] <Arcantos> sayonara
[01:05] <tgm4883> Chuo, it's failing on debclean, which is in the package devscripts
[01:06] <Arcantos> chao
[01:06] <Chuo> tgm4883: ok thanks
[01:06] <Arcantos> bye
[01:06] <Jordan_U> Dave-Maydew: Please give a detailed explanation of what you're trying to do and what symptoms you're seeing.
[01:07] <Jordan_U> Dave-Maydew: And if you can link to a bug report matching your issue that would be very helpful in trying to find a solution for you as well.
[01:07] <Dave-Maydew> I'm trying to find the bug number again
[01:08] <chesedix> I heard ubuntu is doing deal with Microsoft.
[01:08] <rww> chesedix: That isn't an Ubuntu technical support question either. Try again.
[01:09] <lagbox> isn't there a secondary chromium package for the dev version ?
[01:09] <Imrael> I have looked at the eol page, but it doesn't show anything about upgrading from 12.04 LTS. I have the feeling I am missing something really simple, but being half-asleep isn't helping much. :)
[01:10] <Jordan_U> Imrael: 12.04 isn't EOL.
[01:10] <tgm4883> Imrael, you said you were on 12.10
[01:10] <Imrael> Sorry. Mistyped. Was trying to read as I typed.
[01:11] <tgm4883> Imrael, if you are on 12.04, then wait 3 months for the first point release and you'll be offered the upgrade to 14.04. If you are on 12.10, activate the EOL repos and upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10, then finally 14.04 (but IMHO, it would be easier to do a clean install at that point)
[01:12] <Chuo> Oh yeah, for some reason I can't run .run as a program from nautilus after changing the permission for it, it actually kept trying to open it with gedit until I selected execute as program app or whatever is called from the menu , the mouse pointer spins but it won't load, had to use teminal at the end.
[01:12] <Imrael> Ok. Thanks for the info. I appreciate it!
[01:17] <UrielVigilant> Good night, and thank you all for the new 14.04, so much wished !
[01:18] <litropy> I'm running 13.10. Is there a way to disable this function: When I click an app icon in the sidelauncher, and that app happens to have more than one window, the windows get all movey and transitiony and they eventually end up next to each other. Which would be great, if my hardware could handle that kind of a transition. Can I disable it, so that they just auto-snap in one "frame"?
[01:18] <UrielVigilant> Iam sad, because this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/    dont work with 14.04 as still work with 13.10 , lubuntu and ubuntu ? why ? please give me a slution that i cant find no where in the internet !
[01:19] <Chuo> Seems like it wasn't devscript http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280249/ I think is the same error
[01:19] <subz3r0> slut ion? :D
[01:19] <UrielVigilant> solution
[01:20]  * litropy wants me some of them ions
[01:22]  * litropy returns to family mode
[01:28] <cannotbootintowi> So I had Windows 8.1 and (a semi-working version of) Ubuntu 13.10 dual booting on my computer. I decided to upgrade it to 14.04 so I could get Ubuntu working. But, now, I cannot boot into Windows! Previously, GRUB used to provide my a screen with choice to boot between either Ubuntu or Windows. Now, I don't even see the GRUB Window on startup.
[01:28] <cannotbootintowi> Im really worried, and I don't want to destroy my system anymore than it has been until now. So, does anyone have detailed steps on what I should do? I can provide output on pastebin of any commands required.
[01:29] <b13> that seems pretty bad
[01:30] <cannotbootintowi> @b13 yeah Im like panic mode right now
[01:31] <ddsss> confused by indicators -> can one "minimize to indicators" as one would "minimize in the tray"
[01:32] <trepido> cannotbootintowi: do you have RAID enabled?
[01:32] <cannotbootintowi> I dont think so
[01:32] <cannotbootintowi> what command can I do to check that?
[01:32] <trepido> what h/w are you using
[01:32] <cannotbootintowi> Im using Lenovo Y410p laptop
[01:32] <trepido> does it have an SSD and an HDD?
[01:33] <cannotbootintowi> no, only 1TB HDD
[01:33] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, do you have an EFI partition?
[01:33] <litropy> I'm running 13.10. Is there a way to disable this function: When I click an app icon in the sidelauncher, and that app happens to have more than one window, the windows get all movey and transitiony and they eventually end up next to each other. Which would be great, if my hardware could handle that kind of a transition. Can I disable it, so that they just auto-snap in one "frame"?
[01:34] <cannotbootintowi> I think so. Thats how I used to boot previously I think
[01:34] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[01:35] <bswartz> does anyone know how long we have to wait until we can do-release-upgrade trusty?
[01:35] <cannotbootintowi> thought Im not sure on the details. What I did previously was make space for ubuntu, load live cd for 12.04, install 12.04, repair grub. That did not help, so I installed rEFInd boot manager. Then I had problems with 12.04 andmy graphics card so I upgraded from 12.04 to 13.10
[01:35] <rww> bswartz: are you on 13.10 or 12.04?
[01:35] <trepido> cannotbootintowi: did you remove the Lenovo recovery partition etc earlier?
[01:35] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[01:35] <cannotbootintowi> this fixed GRUB but I could not see anything
[01:35] <bswartz> rww: 12.04.4
[01:35] <cannotbootintowi> I did not remove anything
[01:36] <rww> bswartz: until 14.04.1 comes out, in July. sudo do-release-upgrade -d will work right now (only because there is no 14.10 yet), but if you're using LTS for stability reasons, I'd wait.
[01:36] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, you don't need refind anymore.
[01:36] <cannotbootintowi> See the reason Im a little worried about using boot-repair is because the last time I tried it it broke my computer even more (used to be able to boot into ubuntu, after repair grub just gave some error, and hence I had to use rEFInd)
[01:36] <bswartz> rww: ty
[01:38] <bswartz> rww: I was under the impression that -d upgraded you to trunk, not the latest non-LTS release
[01:38] <rww> bswartz: it upgrades you to the latest devel release, which is currently aliased to 14.04 because there is no 14.10.
[01:38]  * rww pats ubottu
[01:39] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, I'm not sure. Just keep in mind your data is very likely safe. So it might help to set up/zap a new EFI partition at the beginning of your HD and follow that link to set up EFI, then do boot repair. It's what worked for me.
[01:39] <cannotbootintowi> how can I check the different partitions existing?
[01:39] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, if you're very worried, you can always boot from a liveusb/cd and back up your data before you do anything
[01:39] <litropy> cannotbootintowi, gparted
[01:41] <cannotbootintowi> OK so right now im on the ubuntu 14.10 installation, and I have a liveusb of that. I don't have any data on ubuntu installation that Im on right now, so thats not a problem
[01:41] <Left_Turn> can someone ban ubottu for flooding :(
[01:41] <rww> Left_Turn: no, because she's removing bans under the direction of a chanop (me)
[01:41] <Left_Turn> oh :)
[01:42] <cannotbootintowi> what Im worried about is messing up boot sequences and not being to boot into even 1 OS
[01:43] <sgo11> hi, how can I disable system beep sound in gnome and ubuntu 14.04? thanks.
[01:43] <cannotbootintowi> OK, more info from gparted: I see 3 partitions: 512 MB /boot/efi, 923 GB ext4 /, and 8 GB swap
[01:43] <cannotbootintowi> does that mean my Windows installation was overwritten?
[01:46] <lagbox> does anyone know about chromium not using gtk preference for fonts in the UI  ... 14.04
[01:46] <Kamaris> is anyone familiar with 14.04 + x11vnc not displaying anything when you remote in? you can interact with the desktop so the connection is made, but the remote session is just a black screen
[01:47] <denysonique_> http://hastebin.com/jufurariga.vhdl
[01:47] <denysonique_> I am having problems installing or uninstalling any package. (14.04)
[01:47] <denysonique_> What is the best way to fix this?
[01:47] <Chuo> Anyone has any idea why I can't build the ati packages in 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280249/ ? or run .run or files without extensions as a program in nautilus after changing the permission?
[01:48] <trism> Kamaris: my first thought would be to try the -noxdamage argument, used to need it a long time ago, although I just checked my script on 14.04 and don't have it enabled
[01:50] <Kamaris> trism: already using that flag :(
[01:51] <Diamondcite> Is Ubuntu-desktop suitable for server use if the server has an active monitor?
[01:51] <jf__> hi
[01:51] <trism> Kamaris: what desktop out of curiosity
[01:51] <Kamaris> unity
[01:51] <jf__> plase I'm new in the maas
[01:51] <trism> Kamaris: same here, hmm
[01:52] <Kamaris> the only additional caveat is that i'm running this in virtualbox
[01:52] <jf__> could some body explain a little about maas
[01:52] <Kamaris> so not sure if that might be the limiting factor
[01:52] <jitsusama> Diamondcite: Any Linux is suitable for server use, but a desktop oriented release usually takes a lot more work to secure, and runs a lot of processes that might slow down server processes.
[01:52] <cfhowlett> Diamondcite I keep reading that "true" servers are command-line driven but that may just be neckbeard talk ...
[01:52] <cfhowlett> !maas|jf__
[01:52] <jf__> yes
[01:52] <Kamaris> i wanted to get a base install up and see what issues i had before i put it in my main system
[01:52] <johndropper> Hello
[01:53] <jf__> I just install ubuntu server14.04 lts
[01:53] <jf__> but  I dont understand some concept
[01:53] <cfhowlett> !server|jf__
[01:53] <qin> jitsusama: it like to say any car can do la Manche
[01:53] <holstein> jf__: just ask
[01:53] <johndropper> I am settign up an ubuntu 14.04 desktop from disk image adn it didnt detect that I have windows 8. So what now? How can I install ubuntu along side of my windows 8 if Ubuntu doesnt detect windows duting the install?
[01:53] <jitsusama> qin: lol, they could, just might not win any races :)
[01:54] <jf__> I read all documents
[01:54] <jf__> but I have a troubbles specific
[01:54] <johndropper> sorry for the typos
[01:54] <UrielVigilant>  Sonikku
[01:54] <Beldar> !uefi | JohnDory
[01:55] <jf__> well I want to know what is exactly a cluster
[01:55] <jf__> we are talking about maas
[01:55] <Beldar> johndropper, That was for you the bots uefi info.
[01:55] <holstein> jf__: a cluster is a group
[01:55] <jitsusama> jf__: yeah, a group of servers that generally share information. IE: Memory, disk, processors...
[01:55] <johndropper> ok i wll check it out
[01:55] <jf__> a group by what
[01:55] <UrielVigilant>  Sonikku you helo doesn it work at all ! See the rsult alive : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/
[01:55] <jf__> ok
[01:56] <jf__> but this are virtual machines
[01:56] <jf__> ?
[01:56] <holstein> jf__: a computer or server cluster is a group of computers
[01:56] <holstein> jf__: https://maas.ubuntu.com/
[01:56] <jitsusama> VMs could be a cluster.
[01:56] <jitsusama> Kinda weird to do that, but possible.
[01:56] <holstein> ^ a cluster of virtual machines
[01:56] <holstein> jf__: its relevant to whatever you are using them for
[01:56] <holstein> jf__: if you want/need a cluster of machines (or whatever) then its relevant
[01:56] <jitsusama> Generally a "true" cluster is a bunch of servers that synchronize their memory, have access to the same disk space, and are able to share process load amongst themselves.
[01:57] <superman> :-D
[01:57] <jitsusama> It's like having lots of CPUs on one computer, but instead of on one, they are on many.
[01:57] <holstein> jf__: i suggest *not* going and finding a bunch of terms to try and define about or around linux, but rather, just try and get a task, or a problem, and address or solve it for yourself
[01:57] <jf__> ok, so I have virtual box on my ubuntu server 14.04
[01:57] <jf__> and is running centos
[01:59] <jf__> so Must I have setting a dhcp servers in my vm centos
[02:00] <jf__> could you describe the topology about the network
[02:00] <jf__> for maas work
[02:01] <jf__> ?
[02:02] <jitsusama> Uhhmmm.. What does maas mean to you?
[02:02] <jf__> metal as a service is like to get  servers on the cloud
[02:03] <jitsusama> Are you wanting to setup a maas controller on a VM?
[02:03] <jf__> not
[02:04] <jf__> I have installed on laptop
[02:04] <jitsusama> Are you trying to setup a server to speak to a maas controller?
[02:04] <jf__> I'm new in this
[02:04] <jf__> but I have a lot questions
[02:04] <holstein> jf__: just ask, with details
[02:04] <holstein> jf__: and please read https://maas.ubuntu.com/
[02:05] <jitsusama> I'm not really familiar with maas myself, but I do understand distributed architectures fairly well.
[02:05] <jf__> ye I read that, thats right I'm here
[02:05] <jitsusama> Funny enough, Ubuntu maas is exactly like a product I was planning on developing.
[02:05] <holstein> jf__: ok.. just ask.. are you trying to setup a server to speak to a maas controler?
[02:05] <jitsusama> Stinko that they beat me to it :)
[02:05] <jf__> yes
[02:06] <jf__> I have 0 nodes
[02:06] <holstein> jf__: then, elaborate about that, and try the #ubuntu-server community
[02:06] <jf__> what is nodes
[02:06] <jitsusama> nodes are servers that are a part of the cluster.
[02:06] <phuh> I'm eating an instance cup noodle and it tastes good.
[02:07] <jitsusama> From a quick skim-read, it looks like maas allows you to have a bunch of servers that you can dynamically load apps on to.
[02:07] <jitsusama> The servers end up not being customized entities, and more like resources that you can put apps onto and move apps around on without worrying about the individual server details.
[02:08] <jitsusama> So, to use maas, you want a group of servers, set them up with the basic middle-ware, setup a separate maas controller, and then use that controller to push out application services dynamically.
[02:09] <kamalk> hello, I have installed ubuntu 14.04 on my new laptop, toshiba satellite M50D A 103. Every thing is working gr8 and I'm really excited. But FN keys are not working. Any idea!!
[02:09] <kamalk> and I'm new on ubuntu.
[02:09] <jf__> ok
[02:09] <jitsusama> jf__: Is that making much sense?
[02:09] <jf__> in this moment Iam configuration
[02:10] <jitsusama> Do you have a bunch of servers laying around?
[02:10] <holstein> kamalk: they may not work.. you can try https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LaptopSpecialKeys
[02:10] <Thete> Anyone know by chance where I can change the php zend opcache settings on 14.04?
[02:11] <jf__> I dont have anything
[02:11] <jitsusama> Then maas isn't really for you.
[02:11] <jf__> just i want to learn about cloud computing
[02:11] <jf__> and I install ubuntu 14.04 on my laptop
[02:11] <jitsusama> Ahh... maas isn't really cloud computing.
[02:11] <holstein> jf__: then, you dont want to try and control a bunch of servers with it
[02:11] <jitsusama> It's a way to treat physical servers like a cloud, without them being a cloud.
[02:12] <holstein> jf__: you can run a server, and learn about hosting.. a physical one ^ or one in virtualbox
[02:12] <jf__> and I am try out
[02:12] <holstein> jf__: start simple.. read about, and setup something like wordpress for yourself locally
[02:12] <jitsusama> Cloud computing is the idea of being able to setup a server without having any physical assets.
[02:13] <jitsusama> maas is the idea of being able to easily setup servers with the flexibility of the cloud, while using real physical assets.
[02:13] <jitsusama> For either option, you really need cashola.
[02:14] <jitsusama> Listen to holstein; if you can learn server administration, cloud stuff will come naturally when you're in a situation to use it.
[02:15] <holstein> and, listen to jitsusama .. has obvious first hand experience with the services you are trying to learn about..
[02:15] <sdjkfaguest> anybody have this same problem ? Tab doesn't focus search results anymore when ur logged in with chrome/chromium
[02:15] <holstein> jf__: start simple.. try and setup something you need,a nd learn about it
[02:16] <jf__> ok, but in the page ubuntu, say
[02:16] <cabbage4th> I'll just leave this here for anyone wondering. I upgraded 12.04 to 14.04 a few hours ago and everything works perfectly. I lost VLC, nd nothing else that  I can notice.
[02:16] <jf__> ubuntu 14.04 is cloud server
[02:16] <cfhowlett> cabbage4th reinstall vlc ?
[02:16] <jf__> with maas and juju
[02:16] <holstein> jf__: ?
[02:17] <holstein> jf__: dont worry about terms and names.. "cloud" is nothing you need to worry about
[02:17] <cfhowlett> jf__ ubuntu is NOT a cloud server, it can be deployed as a cloud server with MAAS
[02:17] <jitsusama> A really nice way to start thinking virtually is VMs.
[02:17] <cabbage4th> cfhowlett: reinstalling now. Just informing the channel just in case someone asks later. :D
[02:17] <holstein> jf__: just try and setup a server you need.. a file server.. ssh.. wordpress.. photo management..
[02:17] <tuxy-jw> anyone have an issue using windows rdp in ubuntu 13.10
[02:17] <tuxy-jw> no issue in 12
[02:17] <jitsusama> Setup your box as a VM host.
[02:17] <jitsusama> Have it run next to nothing.
[02:18] <jitsusama> Have everything else run as VMs.
[02:18] <jitsusama> Create separate VMs for different purposes.
[02:18] <jf__> ok, but the idea is to get an experience with cloud computing
[02:18] <jitsusama> A router VM, a web server VM, a fileserver VM, ...
[02:18] <holstein> jf__: ?
[02:18] <jf__> so I need install and configuration a cloud server
[02:18] <holstein> jf__: ok.. setup a server, friend.. that *is* cloud computing
[02:18] <jitsusama> You can't get experience with cloud computing without paying for cloud services.
[02:19] <jitsusama> AWS &etc cost bucks.
[02:19] <holstein> jf__: "cloud" is just that.. not there. but, "up in the cloud" on a server
[02:19] <tuxy-jw> anyone familiar w/ xrd
[02:19] <tuxy-jw> xrdp
[02:19] <jitsusama> And honestly, they aren't all that sexy anyways.
[02:19] <holstein> jf__: you'll start with what you have, learning about a server
[02:19] <tuxy-jw> or remote from win
[02:19] <jf__> the idea is become a provider cloud computing
[02:20] <jitsusama> Ok jf__, that's a whole different story then.
[02:20] <jf__> or what do you think about owncloud
[02:20] <jitsusama> You'll need to get a hold of some physical services.
[02:20] <holstein> jf__: you need a server community..
[02:20] <jitsusama> blah, servers.
[02:20] <holstein> jf__: owncloud is just a server
[02:20] <rww> owncloud doesn't use cloud computing.
[02:20] <jitsusama> Yeah, owncloud is a way to synchronize files to a single server.
[02:20] <holstein> jf__: it does what it does.. and thats all. its not "cloud computing" or serving
[02:21] <jitsusama> I think we need a cloud jar.
[02:21] <holstein> jf__: owncloud is a dropbox competitor, with other featuers.. and you can run it, for free, and see about it, firsthand
[02:21] <holstein> jf__: setting up an owncloud server would be a *great* way to learn
[02:21] <linuxnoob5> !berg | linuxnoob5
[02:21] <jitsusama> Everytime a company comes up with a new "cloud" service, they need to put $1,000,000 into the jar.
[02:21] <jitsusama> Because they are muddying the waters!
[02:22] <syee> sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager compiz-plugins-extra compiz-plugins-main
[02:22] <syee> is this safe for the latest 14.04?
[02:22] <jitsusama> jf__: cloud services are 1,001 different concepts called by the same name.
[02:22] <jf__> yes
[02:22] <jitsusama> There is cloud storage, cloud computing, cloud blah.
[02:22] <jitsusama> They are all completely different from each other.
[02:22] <syee> yeah?
[02:22] <syee> it wont break anything will it?
[02:23] <holstein> "cloud" is just "up in the cloud".. not local
[02:23] <jf__> so maas is like cloud servers
[02:23] <holstein> jf__: no
[02:23] <holstein> jf__: maas is what it said it was
[02:23] <jitsusama> Ok, let me try to find a better way to explain cloud servers.
[02:23] <jitsusama> And just to re-iterate, cloud servers and cloud computing are different ideas as well.
[02:23] <holstein> jf__: it makes it easier to configure machines
[02:24] <holstein> jf__: you dont want maas. you want to choose a task and run it. like, and owncloud server
[02:24] <jitsusama> Cloud servers makes it easy to roll out an application without having to worry about server stuff.
[02:24] <holstein> jf__: have you setup an owncloud server?
[02:24] <holstein> jf__: have you setup wordpress?
[02:24] <holstein> jf__: have you setup just a simple LAMP stack?
[02:24] <jitsusama> Say, you want to start up a web server, you order a cloud service from Amazon, and they give you a web portal where you can roll out your service to "x" virtual servers.
[02:24] <jf__> yes I did
[02:25] <jitsusama> You configure your application, with its software and data files, and then tell Amazon how much computing power to give it.
[02:25] <holstein> jf__: these are a little offtopic here, but, i learned a lot from using them http://www.turnkeylinux.org/ ..you can run them live, and see how they are configured
[02:25] <jf__> just a owncloud server
[02:25] <jitsusama> They have an architecture that will spread out your load across multiple physical servers.
[02:25] <jitsusama> They just clustering technology, and fancy software to make this transparent to you.
[02:26] <jitsusama> Now, maas allows you to present that kind of interface to your own customers. You have a bunch of physical servers, and you can provide a slick interface to dropping application services unto them.
[02:26] <jseutter> jf__: Have you thought about installing devstack on your system?
[02:26] <linuxnoob5> anyone know what this is http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-make-your-dual-boot-better-with-burg\
[02:27] <jf__> I was watching
[02:27] <jf__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1XH0SQARgo
[02:27] <user_____> Hello
[02:27] <jitsusama> jf__: Yeah, I saw that one too.
[02:28] <Beldar> linuxnoob5, Burg is grub 2 with graphic loader choices
[02:28] <jitsusama> You still need the servers. Someone buys them, installs them, and then you can dynamically load services on to them. At least, that's how I understand it.
[02:29] <jseutter> jf__: yeah, maas is something that helps you when you want to set up a "cloud" on several servers.  It is essentially a way to quickly install an OS on a hardware box, so something like juju can come along and set up other services on it
[02:29] <jf__> ok
[02:29] <jitsusama> jseutter: Yeah, exactly.
[02:29] <jf__> well
[02:30] <jitsusama> DHCP, PXE & what not allow you to load OS images fast.
[02:30] <jf__> if you want create a entermprise
[02:30] <jitsusama> Then you use juju to dynamically allocate services.
[02:30] <jseutter> jf__: so in this case, mass would install ubuntu on some hardware, juju would install the openstack services like nova, mysql, horizon, etc.  Then at the end of it you would have your own running cloud
[02:30] <jf__> that offers iaas or saas
[02:30] <jf__> what will you do
[02:31] <jitsusama> Or you could use openstack or something instead of juju.
[02:31] <linuxnoob5> Beldar,  how well do you know if it going to break my system -also i have just ubuntu installed
[02:31] <user_____> I would be thankful if anyone could answer my question. It's urgent at the moment. Ok, I have a project. I'm going to have a server with Ubuntu installed, and there will be another backup server identical to the main server. The clients initiate connections to the main server and get services, ideally using web requests. (static IP or domain name). If the main server goes down, the requests should be redirected to the backup serve
[02:31] <jitsusama> saas and iaas are another different concept.
[02:32] <user_____> Could someone give me an idea? :|
[02:32] <jf__> yes I know what do you need about saas or iaas
[02:32] <jitsusama> They can utilize the same technologies I guess, but it's not necessary.
[02:32] <jitsusama> SaaS just means that you host software for a company on your server.
[02:33] <jitsusama> Technically, a web site is SaaS.
[02:33] <jitsusama> Instead of the company needing a server running software X, you run it on your server, and give them access to it.
[02:33] <Beldar> linuxnoob5, Depends on your skill set really, this area I know, others I don't, I work accordingly in each area.
[02:34] <jitsusama> That way, all they need to do is remotely access your server to use the software. Nothing (well sometimes a light client) needs to be installed on their machines.
[02:34] <jseutter> jf__: you could use maas to unstall a specially configured os on real hardware and offer non-virtual hardware as a service, but at that point it doesn't fit what most people think of as "cloud computing"
[02:34] <user_____> Is anyone with networking/server background? Need help. :|
[02:35] <jf__> me desmotivaron
[02:35] <jf__> lol
[02:35] <jseutter> user_____: sorry, you didn't really ask a question.  Are you asking for input on what tools to use to make a setup like you described?
[02:35] <user_____> Yes, basically, is that supposed to be solved by ISP?
[02:36] <jitsusama> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_computing has a good run-down on a lot of this.
[02:36] <user_____> Clients will have the IP address of the main server.
[02:36] <user_____> If the main server goes down, clients have no way of communication to the server.
[02:36] <jitsusama> user_____: You want a load balancer in front.
[02:36] <mse> hola
[02:37] <user_____> So the load balancer redirects the requests to the backup server if the main server is down?
[02:37] <jitsusama> A good load balancer can use various means to discern if a server is available or not, and if it isn't, it can redirect the request to another identical backup server.
[02:37] <jitsusama> Exactly.
[02:37] <user_____> Ah I see. Is that the only solution?
[02:37] <jitsusama> It can use something as simple as pings to detect if the remote server is down, a simple HTTP request, or be even craftier.
[02:37] <jitsusama> That's the solution that a service provider would generally use.
[02:37] <sdjkfaguest> anybody have this same problem ? Tab doesn't focus search results anymore when ur logged in with chrome/chromium
[02:37] <jitsusama> The problem with load balancers is what if the load balancer fails.
[02:37] <jf__> somebody speak spanish
[02:37] <sdjkfaguest> any ideas ?
[02:37] <user_____> Cool, so the clients connect to the load balancer right?
[02:38] <jitsusama> Yeah.
[02:38] <mse> no spanish for me
[02:38] <jitsusama> They never know about the real servers.
[02:38] <jitsusama> The SSL certificates would be installed on the load balancer as well, if you're doing HTTPS.
[02:38] <jf__> who speak spanish
[02:38] <kumarat9pm> Hi All, recently I bought my HP Envy with Windows 8 preloaded. I have 1TB(sda) HDD and 32GB(sdb) SSD. For fast I installed my ubuntu on my sdb. Howcan I tell to my bios to bootfrom sdb?
[02:38] <rww> ubottu: es
[02:38] <user_____> Cool
[02:38] <jitsusama> It would act as a proxy server basically.
[02:38] <jitsusama> And proxy your request appropriately depending on what server is available.
[02:39] <user_____> Is DNS resolution a solution as well? Could ISP handle that issue?
[02:39] <jitsusama> It can be.
[02:39] <jitsusama> But it depends upon the application.
[02:39] <user_____> Because what would happen if my load balancer goes down :|
[02:39] <jitsusama> For HTTP, not really.
[02:39] <kumarat9pm> Any one here?
[02:39] <jitsusama> It all depends how redundant you want to be.
[02:39] <jitsusama> Load balancers are pretty simple to cluster.
[02:39] <holstein> !patience > kumarat9pm
[02:39] <user_____> I see.
[02:40] <jitsusama> You could have them use VRRP upstream and when one fails, the other would take over the IP.
[02:40] <holstein> kumarat9pm: you'll as the bios maintainer
[02:40] <jseutter> user_____: for an example of a load balancer, you could look at HAProxy.  It is fairly simple by today's standards, but works well
[02:40] <jitsusama> Yeah, HAProxy supports a VRRP like operation.
[02:40] <jitsusama> I believe it does at least.
[02:40] <user_____> Noted.
[02:40] <kumarat9pm> holstein: thanks for reply.  what is bios maintainer
[02:40] <boldfilter1> unity bar intellihide?
[02:41] <kumarat9pm> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/45567380/how_to_install_Ubuntu_on_HP_Envy-4_ultrabook.pdf
[02:41] <Juju> hello everybody!!!!
[02:41] <user_____> By the way, how can I approach the DNS resolution method?
[02:41] <kumarat9pm> holstein: I followed above link and I am struk with step3
[02:41] <jitsusama> Don't.
[02:41] <user_____> Is it something to do with ISP?
[02:41] <mse> kumarat9pm - when u boot up, you should be able to press a key to enter the BIOS setup
[02:41] <jitsusama> DNS resolution was tried, and failed.
[02:41] <kumarat9pm> mse: I can go in to bios
[02:41] <kumarat9pm> then?
[02:41] <user_____> Ah I see
[02:41] <mse> cool - then you wanna find the boot options
[02:42] <jitsusama> Ideally SRV records would be used, but I don't think any browsers support it.
[02:42] <jf__> bueno gracias a todos
[02:42] <jitsusama> And even then, you get nasty delays when the client is responsible for detecting a service as down.
[02:42] <jf__> thanks to all
[02:42] <jitsusama> jf__: You're welcome. Hopefully I was of some help.
[02:42] <user_____> Aha.
[02:43] <Juju> I am looking for an application like Geoenzo (or to get Wine play it)
[02:43] <holstein> kumarat9pm: elaboarate
[02:43] <jseutter> user_____: don't worry about DNS, that is not part of the problem you want to solve.  You want to have 1 ip address for the service, and if you have 2 proxy servers, have them sort out who has the ip address.
[02:43] <jitsusama> Try HAProxy, or even nginx with some VRRP in the back-ground.
[02:43] <user_____> Do I need to get a service from a third party for a load balancer? I
[02:43] <jitsusama> You can, but you don't have to.
[02:43] <user_____> So I have to install the load balancer in my premises?
[02:44] <jitsusama> You can roll your own, find a vendor, or find some SaaS provider ;)
[02:44] <holstein> Juju: how about some details on what it is? and what you are tyring to do? so i dont have to research that applications.. you can check in wineHQ about it
[02:44] <jitsusama> Ideally.
[02:44] <holstein> !wine
[02:44] <rouj> hello :)
[02:44] <jitsusama> A10 Networks makes a nice load balancer. That's what my company uses.
[02:44] <user_____> Ok so, I will have to consider that my load balancer will have 100% availability?
[02:45] <jitsusama> If you make a pseudo cluster, you'll have pretty good availability.
[02:45] <jitsusama> Who is this for?
[02:45] <jitsusama> Some big company that can't deal with any down-time?
[02:45] <jitsusama> If so, use a load-balancer that is scalable and has super-quick failover.
[02:45] <user_____> It's for a research project, with 0 downtime.
[02:45] <user_____> with minimal cost maybe :)
[02:45] <rouj> hi question.. i use videos 3.10.1 do i need to download a file to play 720 hd mpeg?
[02:46] <Juju> holstein» geoenzo is an application to show in school-backgrounds how to draw with lines (geometry...). Wine doesn't support it yet, but it is an application really simple.. like PAINT... http://geoenzo.com/geoenzo/geoenzo.htm
[02:46] <jitsusama> I haven't seen anything that gives 0 downtime, but I think HAProxy would be a good cheap bet.
[02:46] <jseutter> user_____: yes, if your service needs to be up all the time, your load balancer is a single point of failure.  So you deal with that by having redundant load balancers.
[02:46] <holstein> Juju: how about tux paint, or gimp then.. or inkscape
[02:46] <jseutter> user_____: the closer you get to 0 downtime, the more complex and expensive the solution gets
[02:47] <jitsusama> Yeah, get 4 machines, 2 load balancers and 2 servers.
[02:47] <user_____> Is load balancer costly?
[02:47] <jitsusama> Have the load balancers HA, and have the servers use a shared cache/database if possible.
[02:47] <jitsusama> An Open Source solution would cost you the price of a couple of cheap servers.
[02:47] <user_____> Ah ok, for the testing, I'm going to install in a laptop :)
[02:47] <Juju> holstein» i mean a simple application like Paint, not a simple tool like paint. I need to show how to do it with the rules... the compass.. etc
[02:47] <jitsusama> A 99.999% uptime solution would probably cost you a whole family of heart transplants.
[02:48] <user_____> Aha.
[02:48] <holstein> Juju: and you've tried inkscape? and gimpe?
[02:48] <Juju> holstein» yes, they don't show you the RULE and the Compass
[02:48] <user_____> I have never had an experience with a load balancer, let me google :)
[02:49] <jitsusama> Just remember, if you're application servers don't have shared memory, you could have web sessions broken.
[02:49] <jitsusama> It depends on whether you are using cookies for session tracking or not, and whether it's your database or memory cache that's keeping track of user sessions.
[02:49] <user_____> Ah, that's a good point.
[02:49] <jseutter> user_____: commercial ones can be had for a few thousand each, if they don't need to handle much traffic.  For starting out, you can try using a vm and set up the 4 machines in virtualbox or vmwore
[02:49] <jitsusama> Lol.
[02:49] <jitsusama> libvirt/qemu.
[02:50] <Juju> holstein» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaqEm1GafTo <---- with the rule and the compass... step by step
[02:50] <jitsusama> VirtualBox is for whimps ;)
[02:50] <user_____> What I initially thought was, to shyncrhonize the backup server with the main server realtime.
[02:50] <holstein> Juju: should be lots of plugins for both.. they are well suppoerte.d.
[02:50] <jseutter> jitsusama: heh, good point
[02:50] <jitsusama> user_____: Yeah, that's a start.
[02:50] <jitsusama> PHP likes to keep sessions in memory.
[02:50] <jitsusama> That will kill sessions if you have a server failover.
[02:50] <holstein> Juju: in not interested in watching a video, but, i would just try it in wine... have you tried it in wine? you can run windows in virtualbox/vm or ask them for a native linux app
[02:51] <user_____> Oops. Lol.
[02:51] <jitsusama> If you can keep your sessions in the database, and the databases are replicated, then you have a shared memory store in effect.
[02:51] <jitsusama> That way you should be able to survive a failover, unless they were right in the middle of a transaction
[02:51] <jitsusama> To handle transaction failovers, you need literal shared memory.
[02:51] <johndropper> I am booting in legacy mode but ubuntu will still not detect my operating system so I can install along side windows
[02:51] <Juju> holstein» this was i just asked the first time!!! have you read me at all??
[02:51] <jitsusama> Once again, it depends how resilient you want to be.
[02:51] <user_____> Perhaps I might be able to initiate a session again.
[02:51] <jitsusama> Redundancy and resiliency are separate concepts.
[02:52] <jitsusama> Yes, you could.
[02:52] <Juju> I am looking for an application like Geoenzo (or to get Wine play it)
[02:52] <jitsusama> What type of traffic will it be handling?
[02:52] <nuun> greetings. what does /etc/pam.d/common-sessions do?
[02:52] <user_____> By the way, what company do you work for? If you don;t mind. :) So I could tell my supervisor ;)
[02:52] <jitsusama> Like, what sort of application.
[02:52] <holstein> Juju: as a volunteer, i did read what you posted.. have you tried it frist hand yoursefl in wine?
[02:52] <jitsusama> Lol, I'm a VoIP specialist.
[02:52] <johndropper> any help?
[02:52] <user_____> Aha.
[02:52] <jitsusama> I work for a major Telco in Canada.
[02:52] <Juju> holstein» yes, I tried it. It doesnt work.
[02:52] <jitsusama> But I've done a lot of server work in past lives.
[02:52] <user_____> It's for a tracking systemm. Say, taxi companies could send coordinates of vechiles to a central system.
[02:53] <holstein> Juju: well, try here of the wine channel with specific questions, if you like
[02:53] <user_____> company can see the vehicles realtime.
[02:53] <malv83> what causes cryptsetup to go into the initramfs
[02:53] <user_____> it's an example.
[02:53] <Juju> holstein» ok.
[02:53] <holstein> Juju: otherwise, try adding a rule to gimp, inkscape or libreoffice draw
[02:53] <malv83> for some reason it refuses to open my encrypted partitions
[02:53] <Jammerx2> I lost access to the GUI while upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04, will I be able to finish without being able to see any prompts (such as the keep or overwrite ones)? I still have access to the other tty sessions, but can't get the GUI back up.
[02:53] <jitsusama> Ok, so resiliency isn't as important as redundancy I'd say.
[02:53] <jitsusama> Not a lot of transactional content, mostly just read only access.
[02:53] <Juju> holstein» ok. thanks for the suggestions
[02:53] <jitsusama> Load balancers should be enough for you.
[02:54] <holstein> Juju: i realize it can be frustrating, but, linux is not doing anything to prevent that application from running natively..
[02:54] <holstein> Juju: you might also find an online server, or html5 type thing that you could pull up in any web brwoser that would address your needs
[02:54] <user_____> Yep, oh I forgot, we plan for 1 million trackers.
[02:54] <jitsusama> Hokey.
[02:55] <user_____> Ideally, 1 million trackers will send coordinates etc. within a minute.
[02:55] <jitsusama> How will they update your system?
[02:55] <user_____> They send data through tcp or http.
[02:55] <jitsusama> Right from the Taxi cab?
[02:55] <user_____> Yep.
[02:55] <user_____> Ideally, 1 million taxi cabs? :)
[02:55] <kumarat9pm> holstein: my system is uefi boot.. so I do not see my SSD(sdb) in boot order
[02:55] <Juju> holstein» ... i know the fault is of Linux... what the hell?
[02:55] <jitsusama> So they'll use satellite to give live GPS coordinates straight to your server?
[02:56] <jitsusama> Or will they just use a smartphone app?
[02:56] <Juju> holstein» hahaha.. it's a joke
[02:56] <user_____> Not just taxi cabs,, anything, as long as there is a tracker.
[02:56] <Tiankun> .
[02:56] <user_____> oh no no,
[02:56] <holstein> !uefi | kumarat9pm
[02:56] <jseutter> hm, I managed to get apt get into a loop where it can't upgrade initscripts, upstart and ifupdown because they are each waiting for the other to be configured.  Is there some way I can fix it without trashing my system?
[02:57] <user_____> We don't consider the hardware side. As long as a tracker, say, a smartphone app, a hardware tracker could send data through internet to our server, it should work.
[02:57] <holstein> kumarat9pm: i try and purchase with linux support in mind, so i havent had to deal with it personalluy, but you should have an option to disable what is giving you trouble.. though, that might "Break" windows
[02:57] <jitsusama> Groovy.
[02:57] <jitsusama> Once again, you won't have to worry about keeping state.
[02:57] <jitsusama> They send an update, it's acknowledged, and it's done.
[02:57] <kumarat9pm> holstein: I am least bother about windows..
[02:58] <user_____> Yep, only thing is I will uniquely identify who sent it.
[02:58] <kumarat9pm> so no problem if I break M$ windows..
[02:58] <jitsusama> If an update fails because you were in the middle of transitioning servers, then it will work on the next try.
[02:58] <user_____> cool.
[02:58] <RedGod> I just upgraded to 14.04 and I am having an issue with flash on chromium and was wonder if there is a fix for it
[02:58] <jitsusama> You just don't want them to have to change their config everytime a server changes activity due to maintenance or catastrophy.
[02:58] <user_____> So load balancing is the way to go?
[02:58] <jseutter> jitsusama: I see what you mean, like the system will fix itself quickly when there is a failover...
[02:58] <holstein> RedGod: i use flash from chrome.. not the linux flash that is older
[02:58] <jitsusama> Yeah, geo-diverse, with geo-diverse application servers.
[02:59] <jitsusama> Yeah.
[02:59] <SonikkuAmerica> RedGod: Are you using flashplugin-installer or the pepflashplugin-installer from the PPA?
[02:59] <jitsusama> I'm telco, so we always think about this sort of stuff.
[02:59] <jitsusama> I blow up a building, telephone services keep working.
[02:59] <user_____> Cool, ok.
[02:59] <wolflarson> hey guys quick question: i installed 14.04 in VirtualBox to mess about with the ubuntuSDK but openGL is not installed / is not working. How should i go about getting that up and running?
[02:59] <jitsusama> Cheap servers, at 2 sites with a decent internet uplink.
[02:59] <jitsusama> Load Balancer 1 and Application Server 1 at location A.
[02:59] <Jammerx2> RedGod: switch to system flash if the included is broken
[03:00] <jitsusama> Load Balancer 2 and Application Server 2 at location B.
[03:00] <RedGod> SonikkuAmerica: flashplugin-installer
[03:00] <jitsusama> Database could run on a third pair of redundant servers, or not.
[03:00] <user_____> I just got motivated :)
[03:00] <jitsusama> Actually, I'd use 2 physical servers.
[03:00] <jitsusama> And use VMs.
[03:00] <jitsusama> That way you're cheap, simple, and flexible.
[03:01] <jitsusama> 3 VMs each. One for load balancing, one for web server, one for database server.
[03:01] <SonikkuAmerica> RedGod: Make sure you [ sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ] after you install.
[03:01] <holstein> RedGod: https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/install-pepper-flash-player-for.html
[03:01] <jitsusama> That way, on OS upgrades &etc, you don't have to mess up any more than one service.
[03:01] <user_____> Ah.
[03:01] <Jammerx2> Any suggestions for this: I lost access to the GUI while upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04, will I be able to finish without being able to see any prompts (such as the keep or overwrite ones)? I still have access to the other tty sessions, but can't get the GUI back up.
[03:01] <jitsusama> The host OS should do nothing but NTP, Syslog and Libvirt.
[03:01] <jitsusama> The guest OS's do everything else.
[03:02] <jitsusama> That way, you should almost never have to upgrade the host.
[03:02] <RedGod> SonikkuAmerica: everything is up to date
[03:02] <holstein> Jammerx2: as any user? no GUI? no unity? gnome? what?
[03:02] <RedGod> holsteinve it a shot: thanks I will gi
[03:02] <user_____> That means I have only one database that both the main and backup server connect to?
[03:02] <RedGod> holstein: thanks ill give it a shot
[03:02] <jitsusama> 2 databases.
[03:03] <jitsusama> one on each server.
[03:03] <jitsusama> Replicated.
[03:03] <jitsusama> They will be your main "data" store.
[03:03] <user_____> Ah good, same as I thought. The main server will syncrhonize with the backup server in real time, right?
[03:03] <jitsusama> Yeah.
[03:03] <jitsusama> Postgresql is supposed to be really good for that.
[03:04] <jitsusama> Using their slon replication daemon.
[03:04] <user_____> Nice.
[03:04] <Jammerx2> holstein: Can't start unity when I try, unity-panel-service job doesn't exist
[03:04] <user_____> Postgresql is what we've thought already :)
[03:04] <jitsusama> Good thinking then :)
[03:04] <user_____> We were thinking about big data as well.
[03:05] <jitsusama> Analytics?
[03:05] <jitsusama> What time of research project is this? :)
[03:05] <jitsusama> blah, type.
[03:05] <holstein> Jammerx2: i would be looking into the graphics drivers that maybe were not removed before the upgrade.. i would even consider vesa driver temporarily if i need/want a GUI to fix
[03:05] <malv83> is there any security vulnerabilities if you don't encrypt the root partition?
[03:05] <user_____> Oh well, we should be able to view reports :)
[03:05] <malv83> assuming home/swap are encrypted
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[03:07] <user_____> morning
[03:08] <jitsusama> user_____: Do I have you on the right path now?
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> does the hide guest account and usernames hide trick on lightdm.conf still work on trusty?
[03:08] <Jammerx2> How exactly would I do that holstein, I'm currently on my phone as I don't have a computer nearby (with anything other than a shell)
[03:08] <user_____> Yes, I copeid the chat for further analysis :)
[03:08] <jitsusama> Groovy.
[03:09] <user_____> Btw, thanks a lot, I don't think I thought of load balancers before ;)
[03:09] <holstein> Jammerx2: well, you woudl confirm that you had proprietary drivers in place that could be broken.. and remove them.. you can add a custom xorg.conf.. you'll need to be at the box to try these things
[03:09] <jitsusama> Load balancers make it so that users don't have to re-config when servers change. Shared data-stores means that whichever back-end server is active, it doesn't matter, they can still handle traffic.
[03:09] <holstein> Jammerx2: as some point, a fresh install would be an option for me.. since it wouldn not take long
[03:09] <jitsusama> The other benefit to load balancers is in the name, you can spread your load across both servers.
[03:10] <user_____> Yep, thanks a lot.
[03:10] <user_____> Btw, when are you available here?
[03:10] <jitsusama> Randomly.
[03:10] <jitsusama> I just started up IRC again in the last few days.
[03:10] <jitsusama> I can PM you my email though.
[03:10] <user_____> Oh ok, that would be cool.
[03:11] <Jammerx2> Is it difficult to recover from an interrupted upgrade? I have no idea how far along it is and want to attempt a restart
[03:11] <jitsusama> If you end up going public based upon my help, I'll expect kick-backs ;)
[03:12] <johndropper> i need som ehelp
[03:12] <clue_h> we all do
[03:12] <johndropper> I am trying to install ubuntu along side windows 8 and it will not detect my windows8
[03:12] <johndropper> any help?
[03:13] <johndropper> I tried this and it still doesnt work https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[03:13] <johndropper> i really want this to work
[03:13] <johndropper> any help?
[03:14] <SonikkuAmerica> Jammerx2: Is it a release upgrade?
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> JohnDory: did you disable secureboot?
[03:14] <johndropper> yes
[03:14] <Jammerx2> Upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: and ubuntu 14.04 doesnt see your win8 partition?
[03:15] <johndropper> correct
[03:15] <johndropper> ubuntu 14.04 yes
[03:15] <johndropper> doesnt see windows 8
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: any other options in bios could prevent it?
[03:15] <johndropper> I loked adn I dont see anything
[03:16] <johndropper> I am now botting legacy
[03:16] <johndropper> booting
[03:16] <johndropper> still doesnt see it
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: maybe ask in ##hardware first, what steps to take for your computer to disable secureboot
[03:16] <dipseydoodle> Hello. Anybody up at these hours?
[03:16] <Rahail> HI there how are you I got ubuntu lts4 this system i install it few time.. I can not find what is the reason off limition off virult port
[03:16] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: this channel hekps worlwide at any times :p
[03:16] <Rahail> i can not connect more then 5 device
[03:16] <dipseydoodle> Cool!
[03:17] <johndropper> any help?
[03:17] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: if ubuntu doesnt sees w8, something prevents it from bios
[03:18] <dipseydoodle> I am looking at creating a flavour based off Ubuntu, specifically for myself but I will give it to anybody who wants it. So far I have the current stable amd64 iso mounted and just looked at all my installed packages. This is gonna be fun and I have a few questions, that I could use some help with.
[03:18] <lucarg> hi
[03:18] <johndropper> so I guess my bios wont allow it huh?
[03:18] <Rahail> Any idea where do i need to go and icnrease the tty port limition
[03:18] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: you need to take a deeper look i think
[03:19] <johndropper> ive gone balls deep with no luck sir
[03:19] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: i would erase w8 once and for good, and single boot ubuntu :p
[03:19] <emmetea> quick question, i was going to edit the grub2/images page because there is a syntax error in the one command, but it is locked, who should i contact about this?
[03:19] <johndropper> g thanks
[03:19] <Beldar> johndropper, This thread gives some good info. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[03:19] <lucarg> anyone use awk_
[03:19] <lucarg> ?
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> lucarg: best is to shoot your issue on it
[03:20] <dipseydoodle> I'm sure this is a simple question, but I simply want to remove the GUI, from the cd, how do I go about doing that?
[03:20] <emmetea> it is just a simple "-V" versus a "-v" but one gives you the version, what they meant, and one compiles with verbose.
[03:20] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: you want an ubuntu cd without unity to install for other users?
[03:21] <lucarg> i have a .txt that have text and number i need extract number and save in another file
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: or you mean a textbase setup?
[03:21] <dipseydoodle> lotuspychje No I want a graphical setup I just don't want a gui at boot
[03:22] <jc_> I just installed 14.04 on an asus laptop and I am getting no sound out of my laptop. if I load up pulse volume it says that internal speakers are unavailable and that headphones are plugged in. If I select the speakers it works until I reboot. any idea what I should do to fix this?
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: well unity comes in by default, not sure if there's a trick to that
[03:22] <johndropper> wont work guys sorry. mark this as solved
[03:22] <dipseydoodle> Ok. Is there a way to remove a package completely?
[03:22] <johndropper> i gave it my all
[03:22] <johndropper> lol
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> !sound | jc_
[03:23] <lucarg> awk '$2 ~ "^[1-9][1-9]*$" { print $2 }' 7.txt > outputfile.txt
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: there is a way to create custom installs yes, look up unattended ubuntu
[03:23] <dipseydoodle> I'm going to use this soley for programming and simply text based web browsing/developing. I'll probably use programs like perl, python etcetera
[03:23] <dipseydoodle> ok
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: aptoncd can also work magic
[03:24] <dipseydoodle> Ok
[03:24] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | dipseydoodle
[03:24] <dipseydoodle> Oooh a bot :P
[03:24] <dipseydoodle> May I ask what this one is based off of?
[03:24] <johndropper> thanks fro nothing
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: dont loose faith like that, iv suggested you the ##hardware channel
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: what brand is your computer anyway?
[03:25] <Jordan_U> !brain | dipseydoodle
[03:25] <dipseydoodle> Hmm so this is basically a suse type thing. As in it creates a specific cd from downloaded files then?
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: it creates your favorite packages cd yes
[03:26] <johndropper> its ad ell
[03:26] <johndropper> dell
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> very handy!
[03:26] <dipseydoodle> Ok
[03:26] <johndropper> dell
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: ask ##hardware channel howto disable secureboot on your dell
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> johndropper: then try again ubuntu install
[03:26] <dipseydoodle> I mainly looking at editing it manually for my own learning but also so I can refine it mor so
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: you could install ubuntu server maybe, that has no GUI at boot
[03:27] <dipseydoodle> So there is no way to just add main packages to a cd that I've mounted and have then there when I pop the cd in?
[03:27] <dipseydoodle> I have looked at that too but then I'll be missing lots of stuff
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: then aptoncd can help you :p
[03:28] <dipseydoodle> Ok
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: what is your end goal on the no-HUI thing?
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> GUI
[03:30] <dipseydoodle> Basically to have a plain Xterm whith the shell, where I can have several programming languages pre-installed. Have less space taken up and be able to use Lynx to browse the web imagelessly
[03:30] <davidpc> hello, is there a way how to get access to older packages in ubuntu (without using ppa)? I need to downgrade to vlc 2.0.8 (i am using ubuntu 14.04 which has vlc 2.1.2), thank you
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: if you have no need of unity at all, i would consider ubuntu server
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: you can install links2 on the server aswell
[03:31] <dipseydoodle> Right, but I want to make my own distro for myself so I can learn about this :P
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: and aptoncd all your favorite (programming) packages with it
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: thats another story :p
[03:31] <dipseydoodle> :p lol
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: you want to help develope?
[03:31] <louiemat> can anyone tell me why I have no jobs under- ' Applications' where Menu Applications Places are on the top line of Pinguy os 14.04
[03:32] <tnk> how do i force xubuntu 13.10 to upgrade to 14.04? I run update-manager -d but it doesn't present 14.04 is available for upgrade.. why??
[03:32] <dipseydoodle> In what ways. I can't guarantee total availabilty
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: not sure where to point you, for creating new distro (ubuntu based)
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> maybe someone else know this?
[03:33] <Rahail> I need help with limition on tty port
[03:33] <Rahail> can some one guide mplease
[03:33] <dipseydoodle> lotuspsychje : I am a big time developer for open source. Namely Wesnoth as a UMC developer. my goal here is to make my own distro that will fit my needs and not have anything else.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: ubuntu based distro?
[03:34] <louiemat> can anyone see my question-can anyone tell me why I have no jobs under- ' Applications' where Menu Applications Places are on the top line of Pinguy os 14.04
[03:34] <davidpc> tnk, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[03:35] <Beldar> louiemat, Pinguy has their own channel is the issue.
[03:35] <dipseydoodle> Ubuntu is fine. I've also looked into other ones aswell like Slax etc... I really started thinking seriously after I couldn't install DreamStudio linux on my laptop :P
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: well you understand we can only support ubuntu questions here
[03:35] <dipseydoodle> Yes
[03:35] <louiemat> yes I have no applications under applications
[03:35] <dipseydoodle> That's why I'm here
[03:36] <ejuan> i have an older amd system, i have cool n quiet enabled in the bios and cpu speed scaling is working but the cpu fan still seams loud, is there any where i can modify the cpu fan speed settings?
[03:36] <dipseydoodle> I just want to know how to remove and add packages to the install cd. That's it. I got evverything else going.
[03:36] <dipseydoodle> :P
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: maybe start here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DerivativeDistroHowto
[03:36] <dipseydoodle> ok
[03:36] <dipseydoodle> :P
[03:37] <ejuan> lm-sensors shows 18c for core0 and 24c for core1
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> dipseydoodle: some handy tools on there, so it seems
[03:37] <tnk> how do i force xubuntu 13.10 to upgrade to 14.04? I run update-manager -d but it doesn't present 14.04 is available for upgrade.. why??
[03:37] <funtable> i have one desktop pentium4 with 2gb of memory ram, can i use ubuntu 14.04 or is better use a older distribution ?
[03:38] <ejuan> running ubuntu 12.04  no x server
[03:38] <lotuspsychje> funtable: that should do the trick allright, if your grafix card can handle it
[03:38] <Beldar> funtable, any if the ubuntu desktops should run.
[03:38] <Beldar> of*
[03:39] <Rahail> lotuspsychje can you give me hint please about my TTY limition
[03:39] <funtable> thanks
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> Rahail: sorry mate dont know about your issue
[03:39] <davidpc> so i will presume that only way to get older versions of packages to newer ubuntu is through ppas:)
[03:40] <lagbox> anyone know if the tab's title font can be changed in chromium ... 14.04 ?
[03:40] <Rahail> I installed the OS 3-5 time still i can not connect more then 5 virtule device
[03:40] <Rahail> only limited
[03:40] <napster499> Hey how do i boot ubuntu alongside windows 7
[03:40] <napster499> i wanna boot ubuntu 14.4
[03:40] <Beldar> !dualboot | napster499
[03:41] <holstein> !dualboot
[03:41] <holstein> napster499: 14.04*
[03:41] <napster499> thanks holstein
[03:43] <johndropper> Ok I partitioned my windows drive and left 117 gb free space
[03:43] <Rahail> !pastebin
[03:43] <johndropper> I am now hoping to boot ubuntu from that
[03:43] <johndropper> does that make sense?
[03:44] <Rahail> here are the link of those error i am getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280891/
[03:44] <Rahail> lotuspsychje @ please take look if you can http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280891/
[03:45] <markolo25> anyone expierienced with ubuntu server?
[03:45] <johndropper> me
[03:45] <johndropper> i know 5% of what it can do
[03:45] <markolo25> after installing ubuntu 14.04, my server dosen't get to the login prompt and get's stuck at EXT4-fs  : remounted Opts: errors=remount-ro
[03:46] <markolo25> i can ssh into it
[03:46] <johndropper> create new user
[03:46] <johndropper> erase old
[03:47] <lagbox> why chromium why did you add stupid features that people don't want
[03:48] <markolo25> can that person use sudo already
[03:48] <markolo25> or do i have to do something to let him use sudo?
[03:49] <markolo25> cool
[03:49] <markolo25> same problem
[03:50] <markolo25> i'm stuck in a screen that looks like dmesg
[03:50] <markolo25> ssh works
[03:52] <markolo25> it's stuck at "Adding 7550972k swap on /dev/sda3. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:7550972k SSFS
[03:52] <markolo25> i have a feeling this is like pressing ctrl alt f1 on the desktop version
[03:53] <teaearlgraycold> My terminal seems to have a limited ASCII table available. Is there a reason for this? MOst non alpha-numeric characters won't print.
[03:55] <mjayk> Haya my sound indicator (top right) dissapears when I logon 14.04 64bit unity, any help appricated
[03:56] <markolo25> ^_^ 14.04 is amazing on the desktop even with an amd card
[03:57] <mjayk> markolo25: +1 to that
[04:00] <lagbox> markolo25, yes it is
[04:01] <lagbox> now if i could just get rid of this completely rediculous fontsize that chromium UI is using
[04:02] <markolo25> which chromium are you talking about, the OS or the browser?
[04:02] <Rahail> this is the simular issue
[04:02] <Rahail> i am facing with ubuntu
[04:02] <Rahail> :(
[04:03] <lagbox> browser
[04:03] <markolo25> are there advantages to using LVM?
[04:03] <lagbox> its like 20px size font used everywhere and you can't change it
[04:03] <lagbox> how stupid is that f**king sh*t
[04:04] <markolo25> are you sure it's not your resolution
[04:05] <lagbox> yes i am sure
[04:05] <lagbox> because then everyrhing would be different
[04:05] <lagbox> not just chromium
[04:05] <lagbox> makes chromium look like dog crap
[04:08] <davidrsmorris> lagbox, is your gtk 2.0 font set?
[04:08] <masoudborbor> what is the command to remove a repository?
[04:08] <rww> !ppa-purge
[04:08] <masoudborbor> tx
[04:10] <lagbox> good question
[04:15] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, set that font where ?
[04:16] <Ayyad> anyone haveing issues with ecrypt-setup-private on 14.04?  I'm getting an error which appears to be caused by the mount -i in the script
[04:16] <Ayyad> ecryptfs-setup-private*
[04:17] <MaxSan> try #ubuntu+1
[04:17] <MaxSan> for 14.04 Qs
[04:17] <SallyhadALittleL> perhaps encryption is illegal in your country?
[04:17] <SallyhadALittleL> oh or not
[04:17] <SallyhadALittleL> :P
[04:18] <mshepanski> Silly question: WHen looking at the output of "top" on the command line, does the unit "m" under VERT,RES,SHR stand for million or megabytes? (the man pages dont seem to say)
[04:18] <mshepanski> The man page does say the values are in Kilobytes, so I imagine the m is million, but I want to be sure.
[04:19] <MaxSan> i i rebuilt unity with the instructions at...
[04:20] <NosecuentA> Hi guys
[04:20] <MaxSan> https://unity.ubuntu.com/getinvolved/development/unity/
[04:20] <NosecuentA> Anybody here can help me with the installation of and Old Ati graphic card?
[04:20] <tropic> yes
[04:20] <NosecuentA> In ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[04:20] <MaxSan> I ran unity once i had made my modifications and done a rebuild
[04:20] <tropic> r u having driver issues sir?
[04:21] <MaxSan> now when i login the UI is completely dead. it was fine before restart.
[04:21] <MaxSan> any suggestions on how to fix?
[04:21] <tropic> completely dead as in?
[04:21] <tropic> black screen?
[04:21] <tropic> nothing shows up?
[04:21] <MaxSan> i login and it just a desktop background
[04:21] <MaxSan> no unity
[04:21] <MaxSan> unity doesnt load at all
[04:21] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, doesn't matter what i set font to .. doesn't change in chromium
[04:22] <NosecuentA> tropic, yes im having troubles with it
[04:22] <NosecuentA> :(
[04:22] <tropic> NosecuentA
[04:22] <tropic> u could remove the ati card
[04:22] <tropic> from ur motherboard
[04:22] <NosecuentA> but i want to use it...
[04:22] <lucarg> i have open the cd of yellow page with wine can i copy this to mysql?
[04:22] <tropic> yes
[04:22] <lucarg> http://prntscr.com/3bdhil
[04:22] <tropic> but u wont be able to
[04:22] <tropic> if the ui is dead
[04:23] <tropic> u need to access the ui for debugging
[04:23] <lucarg> this is the screen shot http://prntscr.com/3bdhil
[04:23] <NosecuentA> No!
[04:23] <NosecuentA> I am running the desktop version now
[04:23] <NosecuentA> I came from a scratch :/
[04:24] <davidrsmorris> lagbox, have you tried applying a gtk 2.0 theme?  Sometimes I've found that settings made anywhere else get overridden.
[04:24] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, thanks for the reply
[04:24] <tropic> NosecuentA
[04:24] <tropic> u should still be able
[04:24] <lagbox> i have a stock 14.04 with unity
[04:24] <tropic> to ssh to ur box
[04:24] <tropic> even if the ui is dead
[04:24] <davidrsmorris> (I say 2.0 because I remember Chrome only changed its appearance when I messed around with the 2.0 part of my theme)
[04:24] <NosecuentA> mmm
[04:24] <tropic> check ur router's clientlist
[04:24] <lagbox> yea
[04:24] <tropic> to find the ip of ur box
[04:24] <tropic> and then ssh to it
[04:24] <NosecuentA> i spend two hours
[04:25] <lagbox> i know there are some issues ... but i thought they were resolved in this version
[04:25] <NosecuentA> trying to recover the graphic system
[04:25] <lagbox> i will change theme and see what happens
[04:25] <NosecuentA> now I installed the Ubuntu 12.04.1 version
[04:25] <davidrsmorris> Version of chromium or GTK?  Does the new chromium use the 3.0 theme?
[04:25] <NosecuentA> but i don't know how to install the ati driver in order to make it run properly
[04:25] <MaxSan> anyone have any suggestions?
[04:26] <NosecuentA> This is my Graphic Card:
[04:26] <NosecuentA> 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV610 video device [Radeon HD 2400 PRO]
[04:26] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, i was hoping so
[04:26] <lucarg> to what?
[04:26] <Rahail> any one ever had issue with Issues with multiple USB card readers attached .. in ubuntu
[04:26] <lagbox> i know they made changes with how they get fonts from gtk
[04:27] <NosecuentA> D:
[04:28] <davidrsmorris> Ha, fonts can be evil.  one time I tried to install DIN fonts and broke my Unity.  Switched to Awesome.
[04:28] <tropic> hmm
[04:28] <tropic> u may have to manually install the driver
[04:28] <tropic> as in, compile the kernel module
[04:28] <tropic> but, this is assuming uv exhausted all options
[04:28] <tropic> and failing that
[04:28] <tropic> it could be indeed that the version of ubuntu u installed doesnt work with it
[04:28] <lucarg> use lxde
[04:28] <tropic> in which case u should submit a bug report
[04:28] <lagbox> yikes
[04:29] <lagbox> well when i change font through dconf or unity tweak .. it doesn't change chromium
[04:29] <tropic> unity is a disaster
[04:29] <tropic> so is gnome3
[04:29] <marlencrabapple> so my global menu just disappeared
[04:29] <tropic> everything was fine with gnome2.3
[04:29] <NosecuentA> anybody here can help me?
[04:29] <marlencrabapple> and everything gui related is lagging
[04:30] <holstein> NosecuentA: just try the open driver first then..
[04:30] <holstein> !ati > NosecuentA
[04:30] <marlencrabapple> any idea how i can find what's responsible?
[04:30] <davidrsmorris> lagbox, I got tired of limited tweaking in chrome and ended up installing firefox with slimmish... if you like webkit, you might want to look at uzbl-tabbed.
[04:30] <lagbox> i like chromium ... just this font issue and url bar issue is like a ... really bad addition that is unneeded
[04:31] <tropic> marlencrabapple
[04:31] <marlencrabapple> i assumed the terrible lag had something to do with my gpu, but since the global menu disappeared i'm thinking its software related
[04:31] <tropic> sometimes gui lag
[04:31] <lagbox> i think they are trying to make this nicer on high dpi screens or something and touch interfaces ... but that just ruins my desktop experience
[04:31] <tropic> occurs because
[04:31] <tropic> graphics drivers r not installed
[04:31] <tropic> u should check dmesg
[04:31] <tropic> to see if graphics drivers r loaded
[04:31] <marlencrabapple> i'm using the proprietary drivers
[04:31] <tropic> what r the specs of ur computer?
[04:31] <tropic> is it old?
[04:31] <marlencrabapple> not at all
[04:31] <NosecuentA> Ubottu, i did it but i don't see anything
[04:32] <holstein> NosecuentA: ubuntu is a bot
[04:32] <marlencrabapple> this is definately a software issue
[04:32] <marlencrabapple> it only appeared after over 24 hours of usage
[04:32] <NosecuentA> holstein, i tried it
[04:32] <holstein> NosecuentA: ok.
[04:32] <NosecuentA> but i need the propietary drivers
[04:32] <holstein> !nomodeset | NosecuentA
[04:32] <marlencrabapple> i had a similar issue on windows a year ago on the same GPU
[04:32] <lagbox> isn't there like a gtk2 pref util ?
[04:32] <Janusz> Hello. Is the an easy way to install Cinnamon 2.2 in Ubuntu 14.04?
[04:32] <holstein> NosecuentA: no, you are assuming you need those
[04:32] <NosecuentA> nop
[04:32] <NosecuentA> i came from Windows xp
[04:33] <marlencrabapple> but i'm pretty sure it had to do with chrome canary leaking memory
[04:33] <NosecuentA> i use the same pc to play counter strike and i always get 100 fps
[04:33] <marlencrabapple> gpu memory to be exact
[04:33] <NosecuentA> with the open source driver, i just got 60 fps
[04:33] <tropic> hmmm
[04:33] <holstein> NosecuentA: windows support is irrelevant
[04:33] <marlencrabapple> but yeah, my global menu went missing, so i think this is a unity bug
[04:33] <NosecuentA> is not the same, the engine of the game isn't so smooth
[04:34] <NosecuentA> you can't play
[04:34] <holstein> NosecuentA: the manufacturers are always welcome to support linux, and are more and more these days.. but, you will need to be comfortable with compromise, or use what the manufacturer intendes
[04:34] <NosecuentA> https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx
[04:34] <NosecuentA> Look
[04:34] <NosecuentA> I have ubuntu 12.04.1
[04:34] <NosecuentA> I use 3.2 kernel
[04:34] <NosecuentA> and Xorg 1.11.3
[04:34] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, where specifically is the gtk2 font set compared to gtk3 ?
[04:34] <NosecuentA> the last driver of ati was legacy 13.1 (that supports my card)
[04:34] <holstein> NosecuentA: sure. use it then
[04:35] <NosecuentA> and i fill all the requirement.
[04:35] <folkie> i'm using Ubuntu GNOME, and i noticed there are no longer icons by default on the desktop. how do i get them back? id like my desktop files to appear on top of the wallpaper.
[04:35] <holstein> NosecuentA: but, you should try the open one first
[04:35] <marlencrabapple> for once in my life i'm pissed off that htop isn't showing any processes using an abnormal amount of cpu
[04:35] <holstein> NosecuentA: you may have to run 12.04 for that
[04:35] <marlencrabapple> or memory for that matter
[04:35] <marlencrabapple> everything seems fine on paper
[04:35] <Ayyad> marlencrabapple, lspci -nnk | grep -i vga -A3 | grep 'in use'
[04:35] <Ayyad> what does that tell you?
[04:35] <NosecuentA> in 12.04 i had 3.11.0.9 kernel
[04:35] <marlencrabapple> 	Kernel driver in use: nvidia
[04:35] <NosecuentA> and Xorg 1.14 :/
[04:36] <marlencrabapple> trust me, the problem isn't between the chair and the keyboard
[04:36] <holstein> NosecuentA: so, you have all the facts there, friend
[04:36] <marlencrabapple> this is definitely a software issue
[04:36] <davidrsmorris> lagbox, ~/.themes/[theme]/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[04:36] <Ayyad> howabout trying to regenerate a new xorg.conf (and yes, I know technically you don't nead one anymore)
[04:37] <marlencrabapple> me?
[04:37] <NosecuentA> Well honestly, i have my doubts with it.
[04:37] <marlencrabapple> i already know rebooting will "fix" the issue
[04:37] <NosecuentA> Can you check the website and tell me if 'will' work for me?
[04:37] <holstein> NosecuentA: ask the manufacturer what driver is "best", and use whatever the driver requires
[04:37] <marlencrabapple> i just want to know whats causing this so i can file a bug report or something
[04:37] <NosecuentA> my english is not so good and maybe i'm missing some importan information
[04:38] <holstein> NosecuentA: i just use what works first hand.. i try the open ones first, then go from there
[04:38] <next-generation> hallo
[04:38] <johnrose13> I updated to 14.04 but my bootloader still says beta. Is there a reason for that?
[04:38] <marlencrabapple> strangely enough i did not have this issue on 12.04
[04:38] <next-generation> was geht :)
[04:38] <holstein> NosecuentA: you are just expecting it to work like it did in windows, and it may not do that.. you were not promised that
[04:39] <NosecuentA> yeah offcourse not, but will work better than the open source driver
[04:39] <next-generation> german bro
[04:39] <marlencrabapple> would it help if i said that i'm experiencing 10-15 second freezes during certain transitions
[04:40] <marlencrabapple> like unminimizing a window
[04:40] <marlencrabapple> or opening a dialog
[04:40] <marlencrabapple> during which i can't move my mouse onto my second screen
[04:40] <lagbox> davidrsmorris, im using the ambiance from 14.04
[04:40] <holstein> NosecuentA: not necessarily, friend.. try the open one first
[04:40] <shirox> Just installed 14.04, what a buzz-kill
[04:41] <shirox> looks the same to me. But it's great that you now can have the menu in the windows instead of on the top of the screen.
[04:41] <marlencrabapple> right now i'm haphazardly killing chrome background processes
[04:41] <lagbox> no mention of font in that gtkrc file
[04:41] <johnrose13> any reason why the bootloader still says beta with 14.04?
[04:41] <shirox> When it comes to UI, windows still has it.
[04:41] <marlencrabapple> and each time the "are you sure" dialog pops up
[04:41] <marlencrabapple> i'm stuck for ~10 seconds
[04:41] <holstein> !ot | shirox
[04:42] <holstein> shirox: feel free and try any UI you like
[04:42] <next-generation> GERMAN? BRO :S
[04:42] <shirox> johnrose13: I'd guess that the upgrade left the current installed kernel unchanged (called beta), which probably is the same as the official release.
[04:42] <johnrose13> how do i fix it?
[04:43] <holstein> next-generation: let us konw if you have a support question.. otherwise, use the offtopic channel
[04:44] <holstein> johnrose13: are you up to date? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[04:45] <marlencrabapple> well randomly killing chromium background processes didn't help
[04:45] <marlencrabapple> so this isn't the same chrome gpu memory leak i had back on windows
[04:45] <johnrose13> let me see
[04:45] <dw1> shirox: you can install gnome-session-flashback for a more typical UI
[04:45] <marlencrabapple> which was kind of obvious from the start, but i gotta cover all my bases i guess
[04:45] <dw1> shirox: install and choose at login
[04:46] <marlencrabapple> guess i'll kill compiz and see what happens
[04:46] <dw1> shirox: there are other windows managers/UIs too
[04:46] <MaxSan> please guys some help would be awesome
[04:46] <dw1> shirox: try that with windows ;) not :P
[04:46] <holstein> MaxSan: i dont see your query?
[04:47] <dw1> he logs in and just gets background nothing else in unity
[04:47] <MaxSan> holstein my unity is broken
[04:47] <davidrsmorris> lagbox, is that a gtk theme?  Either way, you should install one to your .icons before you start changing (and breaking) it.
[04:47] <MaxSan> i rebuilt from source and fixed what needed change, was fine
[04:48] <next-generation> hey bro, I have the ISO file for the virtual box have the
[04:48] <MaxSan> then i shutdown and power up and now unity doesnt load
[04:48] <holstein> MaxSan: undo the changes you made
[04:48] <MaxSan> how?
[04:48] <MaxSan> the changes work fine
[04:48] <MaxSan> they reloaded right away and were fine
[04:48] <Beldar> MaxSan, Is compiz running?
[04:48] <next-generation> I need the iso file for virtualbox?
[04:48] <lagbox> has a gtk2 and gtk3 folder
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> does that hide-guest and hide-usernames at login still work on lightdm.conf on trusty?
[04:48] <MaxSan> how do i check this?
[04:48] <next-generation> I need the iso file for virtualbox? ??
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> someone tested this?
[04:48] <MaxSan> how do i get a root terminal up with a blank screen or from the login menu?
[04:48] <holstein> next-generation: you can install guest additions from the repo
[04:49] <holstein> MaxSan: the recovery kernel
[04:49] <dw1> MaxSan: ctrl-alt-f1 , then ctrl-alt-f7 to get back
[04:49] <MaxSan> with a live cd?
[04:49] <holstein> MaxSan: no
[04:49] <MaxSan> ahh
[04:49] <MaxSan> ok
[04:49] <user_____> hi
[04:49] <dw1> MaxSan: or reboot to repair prompt
[04:49] <MaxSan> sec il try
[04:49] <holstein> !tty | MaxSan
[04:49] <next-generation> this also works on usb stick? ??
[04:49] <marlencrabapple> so i killed and restarted unity via ssh
[04:49] <holstein> next-generation: this?
[04:49] <marlencrabapple> and everything is running smoothly again
[04:50] <marlencrabapple> is there any way i can track what's causing the extreme slowdown and freezes so i can report it?
[04:50] <next-generation> for virtualbox
[04:50] <marlencrabapple> all i know so far is killing and restarting unity makes everything fine again
[04:50] <someHuman> What's a good app for network speed test?
[04:50] <holstein> marlencrabapple: what graphics driver?
[04:50] <Beldar> MaxSan, Why did you build unity?
[04:51] <MaxSan> i had to remove the whitelist from the panel
[04:51] <next-generation> can I bring a USB stick to run virtualbox ?
[04:51] <MaxSan> many apps i use are panel centric
[04:51] <MaxSan> without them they dont function correctly
[04:51] <holstein> someHuman: how about http://askubuntu.com/questions/104755/how-to-check-internet-speed-via-terminal
[04:51] <marlencrabapple> nvidia 338 holdstein
[04:51] <holstein> MaxSan: if you have no x, address that first
[04:51] <dw1> next-generation: yeah
[04:52] <holstein> MaxSan: i might start there. you can type "hol" and hit tab to auto-complete my nick
[04:52] <Beldar> MaxSan, Just make sure you keep the built unity from source in your info.
[04:52] <dw1> next-generation: boot it and install it... try it
[04:52] <next-generation> must I do that make once, or running the later even without usb stick
[04:52] <marlencrabapple> trust me, i know what using foss gpu drivers feels like lol
[04:52] <holstein> MaxSan: sorry
[04:52] <holstein> marlencrabapple: i might start there. you can type "hol" and hit tab to auto-complete my nick
[04:52] <holstein> marlencrabapple: ?
[04:52] <next-generation> ??
[04:52] <holstein> marlencrabapple: you should be willing to troubleshoot, by testing with the open driver
[04:53] <user_____> Ok I've got a quick question again rearding load balancers, anyone up?
[04:53] <marlencrabapple> i am troubleshooting
[04:53] <holstein> marlencrabapple: then, consider removing the proprietary driver from the euqation
[04:53] <dw1> user_____: sounds like third party software.. #linux or #httpd maybe ?
[04:53] <MaxSan> from terminal how do i rerun my build then?
[04:53] <holstein> MaxSan: build of what?
[04:53] <MaxSan> or just make it default so it always runs
[04:53] <MaxSan> unity
[04:53] <marlencrabapple> i'd have to wait at least 24 hours for the problem to reoccur
[04:54] <MaxSan> with my one line code change to remove whitelists
[04:54] <holstein> marlencrabapple: then, you may have a challenge determining this.. but, thats where i would look
[04:54] <holstein> marlencrabapple: you can always just use a live CD for a period of time, and see if it happens
[04:54] <Beldar> !who | MaxSan rather important
[04:55] <MaxSan> holstein: my build of unity.
[04:55] <user_____> Ah nope. Here's the hypothetical scenario: I have a main server machine with ubuntu installed. I have another backup server machine which is identical to the main server. I need the requests made to the main server be redirected to the backup server if the main server is down. jitsusama suggested the use of Load Balancers. Just got a question related to it.
[04:55] <holstein> MaxSan: use the default build of unity, in the official repos
[04:55] <holstein> MaxSan: otherwise, you need to ask whoever is maintaining your version for support
[04:56] <MaxSan> nobody is fixing this lol
[04:56] <MaxSan> i changed a single line
[04:56] <user_____> Anyone has an idea?
[04:56] <tnk> What is going wrong with my upgrade to 14.04? I am getting an error read-only file system.. and dpkg error.. and then it crashed.. after a few packages couldn't install..
[04:56] <holstein> MaxSan: right.. thats why i suggested changing it back.. undo what you did that broke your system
[04:56] <next-generation> must I do that make once, or running the later even without usb stick
[04:57] <holstein> tnk: hope its not a hard drive failure.. whats the system doing now?
[04:57] <MaxSan> i know what I done has not caused the issue im around 98.5% sure
[04:57] <MaxSan> its a config thing with unity being confused on what its loading
[04:57] <tnk> holstein, i'm still in the 13.10 initial session..
[04:57] <MaxSan> and bails out
[04:57] <dw1>  user_____, ubuntu doesnt come with anything like that that im aware of. therefore third party or general #linux
[04:57] <MaxSan> i want to reset it basically
[04:57] <MaxSan> holstein:
[04:57] <MaxSan> ^^
[04:57] <next-generation> ^^
[04:57] <holstein> MaxSan: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[04:58] <holstein> next-generation: you can install virtualbox guest additions from the repo. no usb or iso needed
[04:58] <dw1> user_____: or google, load balance ubuntu ;)
[04:59] <tnk> holstein, i tried dpkg --configure -a but it went error unable to access dpkg status area.. read only file system..
[04:59] <tnk> holstein, what should i do to get the upgrade to continue.. ?
[04:59] <euryale> hi holstein :)
[04:59] <next-generation> I do not know how that works
[04:59] <holstein> euryale: o/
[04:59] <tnk> these were the two files which first failed, before crashing the upgrade.. Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libselinux1_2.2.2-1_i386.deb'
[04:59] <tnk> Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_1%3a8.31-2ubuntu2_i386.deb'
[04:59] <holstein> next-generation: try it
[05:00] <user_____> Ah, load balancer as in not a Ubuntu thingy, just need some high level advice :)
[05:00] <euryale> what amd driver do u recommend in ubuntu 14.04?
[05:00] <holstein> next-generation: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22743/how-do-i-install-guest-additions-in-virtualbox has a couple ways
[05:00] <holstein> euryale: the open one, then the proprietary one if needed
[05:00] <user_____> Urgent here, no worries, I'm trying the general #linux as well.
[05:00] <chipotle> if i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?
[05:01] <dw1> user_____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17468/network-load-balancing-with-network-manager
[05:01] <euryale> uhm where do i locate that? im kinda blank today.
[05:01] <holstein> euryale: should be running by default
[05:01] <elgruntox> hey yall, im trying to get transmission-daemon and its webinterface running but I keep running into permission denied errors when adding anything to download, googled and followed all the guides and i have proper permissions setup but i still get the error, anyone run into this before?
[05:01] <tnk> holstein, what do you think?
[05:01] <euryale> ok.
[05:02] <holstein> tnk: i mean, personally, i just fresh install after testing the hard drive
[05:02] <euryale> im wondering, when i was running the live usb, the performance was better than now installed.
[05:02] <holstein> tnk: otherwise, i would just address the issues in order.. the read-only filesystem error, or whatever it takes
[05:02] <tnk> holstein, but what about all the programs and setup configs and everything i've established with this box?? wouldn't i have to do it all over again?
[05:02] <dw1> user_____: its a very niche issue so prob no experts here
[05:03] <tnk> holstein, what is the error with the readonly? why's it doing that? why'd those two p ackages fail first?
[05:03] <holstein> tnk: sometimes i consider that setup and reconfig easier, and the files need be backed up regardless,.. since that drive *will* fail. they all do
[05:03] <tnk> holstein, didn't understand that.. ??
[05:04] <holstein> tnk: i mean, a resintall takes about 8 minutes.. i might fight with that error for hours
[05:04] <next-generation> I'll try it first with a USB stick
[05:04] <holstein> tnk: otherwise, just take them in order
[05:04] <holstein> tnk: what exact errors and when.. from what..
[05:04] <tnk> Could not install '/var/cache/apt/archives/libpcre3_1%3a8.31-2ubuntu2_i386.deb'
[05:04] <holstein> http://askubuntu.com/questions/287021/how-to-fix-read-only-file-system-error-when-i-run-something-as-sudo-and-try-to for example
[05:04] <holstein> tnk: see if "sudo apt-get update" completes without error
[05:05] <shirox> I'm getting a lot of error messages, what should I do?
[05:05] <rundll32>  what is the name of the python runtime?
[05:05] <user_____> hmm
[05:05] <holstein> tnk: try the server upgrade from http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/howto-upgrade-to-ubuntu-14-04-from-ubuntu-13-10-or-12-04/ and address errors
[05:05] <trepido> Hi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work
[05:05] <folkie> i'm using Ubuntu GNOME, and i noticed there are no longer icons by default on the desktop. how do i get them back? id like my desktop files to appear on top of the wallpaper.
[05:05] <dw1> rundll32: python
[05:06] <tnk> apt-get update failed a bunch of fetches
[05:06] <shirox> rundll32: sudo apt-get install python I think
[05:06] <someHuman> holstein: Thanks!
[05:07] <Beldar> folkie, There is a gnome-tweak tool, this allows additions and changes in the desktop.
[05:07] <folkie> thanks
[05:08] <tnk> holstein, it gives error.. sudo unable to open var/lib/sudo.. read-only..
[05:08] <holstein> tnk: then, try a repair for the read-only file system
[05:08] <tnk> how?
[05:08] <holstein> tnk: i already suggested http://askubuntu.com/questions/287021/how-to-fix-read-only-file-system-error-when-i-run-something-as-sudo-and-try-to
[05:08] <holstein> tnk: or, reinstallation
[05:08] <holstein> tnk: after testing the hard drive
[05:09] <shirox> when I upgraded to 14.04, it stopped in the middle with an error message and said that it'll revert the process. But instead, it quit the installation with "successfully installed". I suppose I have a half-updated system now. (Maybe I don't). What should I do?
[05:09] <holstein> tnk: you can share the entire message in pastebin
[05:09] <holstein> !paste | tnk
[05:09] <clue_h> ubottu, siri insulted you
[05:10] <tnk> holstein, ok, i guess i have to reboot then.. and either use live cd.. or see if apt-get update/ or dpkg configure works from ttyl2.. or something..
[05:10] <user_____> Hi, how could I redirect the client requests to the backup server if the main server goes down?
[05:10] <Beldar> shirox, What was the original error?
[05:10] <holstein> tnk: tty or no, you need to address why sudo is broken, if it is, and get a few commands to complete
[05:11] <clue_h> have the website point to both ip addresses
[05:11] <holstein> tnk: i would run "sudo apt-get upate" and search for any errors in a web browser and fix those.. then, the server upgrade proceedure commands, and do the same
[05:11] <JanuszPL> Hello. Which licence should I use for my software to make it available both for open and closed source projects? GNU is limited to open source only.
[05:11] <user_____> clue, does it mean all the requests come through a website?
[05:12] <jeshwanth> Hello, can anybody tell me why /sbin/hotplug is not there in Ubuntu?
[05:12] <shirox> Beldar: I don't know :s. But I keep getting this error message from apt-get update etc: http://pastebin.com/1D6TzFiG
[05:13] <jeshwanth> Or which hotplug tool ubuntu uses?
[05:13] <shirox> Beldar: the original error said something about xorg similar to that
[05:13] <Beldar> shirox, The full apt-get update would help
[05:13] <next-generation> I no longer look through, linux is very demanding
[05:13] <shirox> Beldar: full apt-get update, what's that?
[05:13] <holstein> shirox: you add a ppa? the xorg edgers one?
[05:14] <holstein> shirox: the full output from the command
[05:14] <holstein> shirox: and, the output you are not recalling, and didnt document
[05:14] <Beldar> shirox, You posted some errors from a apt-get update right? lets see the whole text
[05:15] <shirox> k
[05:15] <next-generation> :3
[05:16] <shirox> do you mean this? http://pastebin.com/Abc84H4i
[05:18] <Beldar> shirox, pastebin all the text from a sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <shirox> k
[05:21] <shirox> http://pastebin.com/vZhGCiGd
[05:22] <shirox> no error message there though
[05:22] <chipotle> if i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?
[05:23] <next-generation> virtualbox not working :(
[05:24] <shirox> Beldar, holstein and here's the output of apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.com/sYwvheKu
[05:24] <holstein> shirox: apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:24] <holstein> shirox: did you add ppas?
[05:24] <shirox> hmm.. what do you mean? I have some unofficial ppa's yes
[05:25] <shirox> such as wine
[05:25] <shirox> apt-get dist-upgrade gave me a similar error to taht of the last link I posted
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> oh 14.04 is out
[05:25] <holstein> shirox: i didnt offer it as a fix.. its just what you should be using
[05:25] <linuxuz3r> cool
[05:25] <Beldar> shirox, pastebin the output if this command.  grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[05:25] <holstein> shirox: as a fix, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:26] <holstein> shirox: did you add PPA's?
[05:26] <shirox> holstein: same error.  Yes, I've added PPA's
[05:26] <holstein> shirox: if you did, purge them, and try and get back to using stock ubuntu properly configured, and go from there
[05:26] <shirox> Beldar: coming
[05:26] <holstein> shirox: looks like you may have some mixed sources, which could be causing your frustrations
[05:26] <shirox> when they are purged, what do I do then?
[05:27] <holstein> shirox: you do *whatever* it takes to get "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to complete without error
[05:27] <shirox> alright, thanks for the help :)
[05:27] <emmetea> so i installed 14.04 on my win 8 64bit machine. it installed fine, i booted to windows to get some files, and my computer rebooted and now grub2 will not recognize the windows loader. ubuntu reads the information, however not being able to get into the windows drive is not an option.
[05:28] <Beldar> shirox, holstein is on the right track, I'm just checking what's in the sources.list and sources.list.d     the .d is the ppa's.
[05:28] <holstein> !uefi ? emmetea
[05:29] <holstein> !uefi > emmetea
[05:29] <holstein> maybe its related to secure boot, and something windows is expecting that is not in place anymore, emmetea
[05:29] <holstein> emmetea: did windows *ever* boot with grub?
[05:29] <emmetea> thank you. i'll check that out, certain explains why it booted once fine
[05:29] <emmetea> yes, once, right after the install
[05:31] <subhojit777> Hello all, I have Ubuntu 13.10. I want to disable touchpad while typing, I tried the system setting "Disable touchpad while typing", but it does not work. I also tried syndaemon, but it locks the touchpad, I can only control the pointer and cannot scroll or tap using touchpad (http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/ubuntu-automatically-disable-touchpad.html), any idea?
[05:32] <shahan> Hello I just installed ubuntu 14.04 and was wondering what typed of "antivirus" or "firewall" type stuff I should generally be using when downloading, surfing or torrenting?
[05:32] <shahan> other than gufw
[05:32] <Beldar> !av > shahan
[05:33] <johndropper> ok guys i really screwed up
[05:37] <shahan> how do I refresh unity in 14.04?
[05:37] <shahan> the scaling option is being weird, the one for window controls, i like it a lot, but it won't change after the first time i set it
[05:38] <holstein> shahan: try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[05:42] <shirox> is upgrading the system while in xfce a problem?
[05:43] <shahan> holstein: thanks
[05:44] <lagbox> still can't get this chromium issue worked out
[05:45] <Jammerx2> So I managed to the upgrade finished, it seems to have corrupted some of my user config files though (couldn't even login at first). I reset the .Xauthority and .config/dconf/user, and can now login but any changes I make to settings are instantly reverted.
[05:47] <shirox> holstein: I don't have that error message any more. But how do I make sure I've updated the system fully to 14.04?
[05:47] <shirox> apt-get upgrade does nothing
[05:48] <gry> shirox: thanks, i now know it's out
[05:48] <johndropper> just delete your life
[05:48] <johndropper> sudo apt-get update
[05:48] <johndropper> sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:48] <gry> shirox: "lsb_release -a" in terminal will show you your version
[05:48] <BlackWeb> If I want my system to execute a script every bootup is /etc/rc.local the place to specify it??
[05:48] <gry> johndropper: sorry, i can't believe you after you asked to delete life and gave wrong advice
[05:49] <gry> johndropper: apt-get upgrade alone doesn't update to a next major release, iirc
[05:49] <shirox> it says 14.04 trusty .. but as I understood it, my version upgrade canceled in the middle
[05:49] <holstein> shirox: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade should bring you current
[05:49] <gry> holstein: better :-)
[05:50] <johndropper> sudo apt-get upgrade life
[05:50] <shirox> "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded." <--- I don't believe it :p
[05:50] <holstein> gry: :)
[05:50] <johndropper> jk
[05:50] <shirox> I did the holstein thing.
[05:50] <holstein> shirox: check your pakages manually, if you like
[05:51] <shirox> should I take its word for it when it says "0 not upgraded"?
[05:51] <holstein> shirox: not if you dont want to.. check manually if you swant
[05:51] <holstein> want*
[05:51] <shirox> what am I looking for?
[05:51] <shirox> what's the current xorg version?
[05:52] <holstein> shirox: whatever you think isnt done
[05:52] <holstein> !info xorg
[05:52] <gry> shirox: yes, then do what johndropper said to upgrade packages within that release
[05:52] <holstein> !info firefox
[05:52] <Jammerx2> holstein, any suggestions with my issue? I don't notice any permissions issues
[05:53] <holstein> Jammerx2: remind me
[05:53] <Jammerx2> "So I managed to the upgrade finished, it seems to have corrupted some of my user config files though (couldn't even login at first). I reset the .Xauthority and .config/dconf/user, and can now login but any changes I make to settings are instantly reverted."
[05:53] <Jammerx2> Using the guest account works fine, so I feel like it has to be a permissions issue or some file is corrupted in my home directory, but I can't find anything that seems wrong
[05:54] <freelock> howdy... having some upgrade troubles, 12.04 to 14.04 via the upgrade manager...
[05:54] <freelock> first issue: "hwmatch command not found" when grub loads, then file not found
[05:54] <llutz> Jammerx2: find ~ -not -uid <your-uid-here>                     your uid most likely = 1000
[05:55] <shirox> how do I know what xorg version I have
[05:55] <freelock> Ubuntu splash screen comes up for a bit, then it goes to a black screen with a blinking underscore, and nothing else happens
[05:55] <llutz> shirox: apt-cache policy xorg
[05:55] <freelock> if I switch to a vt, I can "sudo start lightdm" and get into X, but when the screen saver comes on, everythin glocks up again... ?
[05:55] <holstein> Jammerx2: just blow them all out.. just move them, and try the user
[05:55] <Jammerx2> Ah, ~/.cach/dconf
[05:55] <Jammerx2> cache*
[05:55] <shirox> ty
[05:58] <chipotle> if i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?
[05:59] <shirox> chipotle: by default, yes.
[05:59] <chipotle> by default yes what?
[06:00] <shirox> chipotle: it may or may not ask you to replace your current config file. But the installation comes with a configuration file that will replace the current one.
[06:00] <PupUsereb2f67> c
[06:00] <chipotle> shirox: so how do i install fpm on a server that doesn't have it, without downtime?
[06:00] <shirox> chipotle: sorry, I misunderstood the question (thought you mean whether it's going to override your configuration files)
[06:01] <shirox> what's fpm?
[06:01] <chipotle> shirox: no, my question is: how do i instlal fpm on a server that's already got php fastcgi installed
[06:01] <chipotle> PHP-FPM (FastCGI Process Manager) is an alternative PHP FastCGI implementation with some additional features useful for sites of any size, especially busier sites.
[06:02] <shirox> idk \o/
[06:03] <Hafiz> hello everyone, how i install driver intel for ubuntu 14.04....????
[06:03] <Jammerx2> Well that seems to have fixed it, sucks that I had to reset my dconf settings but at least those shouldn't be too hard to fix
[06:05] <llutz> Jammerx2: get old settings back from backup (you made one before, didn't you?)
[06:06] <holstein> Hafiz: should be required to
[06:06] <Guest897643> Where can I find an Ubuntu software IRC channel?
[06:06] <Jammerx2> Yeah, but it seems to have the same problem (unity doesn't start), I think something must have happened after I last logged off before the backup
[06:06] <Jammerx2> Not a huge issue though
[06:07] <Jammerx2> As long as all my application settings are fine (which they are) it doesn't matter
[06:09] <PupUsereb2f67> Can someone help me with audio issues in Avidemux?
[06:11] <PupUsereb2f67> I get no sound on playback and going into Preferences > Audio, the only output device is "Dummy".
[06:11] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: nothing for pulse?
[06:11] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: have you tried pavucontrol?
[06:11] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: do you have audio otherwise?
[06:13] <PupUsereb2f67> Every other app has sound. I don't use Pulseaudio.
[06:13] <PupUsereb2f67> just ALSA
[06:13] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: thats not default. what did you do to deviate from default?
[06:14] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: could be, avidemux reqires pulse these days..
[06:14] <PupUsereb2f67> Pulseaudio kept having choppy playback.
[06:14] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: "dummy" is all you see for output?
[06:14] <PupUsereb2f67> Yes.
[06:14] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: choppy may be preferred
[06:16] <BlueShark> How can I get the internet usage for the past month on Ubuntu?
[06:17] <PupUsereb2f67> I guess I'll try reinstalling it. Sound is an absolute must with video editing.
[06:17] <lotuspsychje> someone tested ubuntu-tweak yet on trusty?
[06:17] <holstein> BlueShark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMonitorInternetTrafficTotals
[06:17] <holstein> BlueShark: likely have to plan for the future now
[06:17] <holstein> BlueShark: some routers keep track
[06:18] <PupUsereb2f67> Is unity any faster on Ubuntu 14.04 than 13.10?
[06:18] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: try it and see
[06:18] <Beldar> lotuspsychje, The stable has not released a trusty yet
[06:18] <lotuspsychje> Beldar: tnx
[06:18] <BlueShark> vnstat looks cool but it says it doesn't have enough data yet.
[06:19] <BlueShark> So, there's no way I can get the usage statistics for the past month, right?
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> PupUsereb2f67: all the trusty reviews say 14.04 is very fast
[06:19] <holstein> BlueShark: you can look at your gateway/router
[06:19] <BlueShark> holstein: how do you mean?
[06:19] <holstein> BlueShark: otherwise, you will implement something now
[06:19] <PupUsereb2f67> I just want to know before I install. Ubuntu 13.10 lagged like hell on my netbook, so I switched to Xubuntu.
[06:19] <lotuspsychje> PupUsereb2f67: check the omgubuntu website for the video review
[06:19] <Guest786535> I'm new to Ubuntu.. How many Ubuntu viruses are there?
[06:19] <holstein> BlueShark: your router.. some routers keep track. so, maybe your router has a log of your data usage
[06:20] <lotuspsychje> !virus | Guest786535
[06:20] <Jammerx2> BlueShark, ISPs also often have a way to check usage, but if there's no way via that or the router than you're out of luck.
[06:20] <Jammerx2> then*
[06:21] <lotuspsychje> PupUsereb2f67: also depends on your hardware, i would try trusty clean install
[06:21] <PupUsereb2f67> Guest786535: Almost none. You can get some Windows viruses in Wine (never happened to me), but it will only affect your Wine prefix.
[06:22] <PupUsereb2f67> Is there a Unity 2d or a way to disable compositing in 14.04?
[06:23] <dw1> Could a virus not easily get in by installing an app (as root) using a 3rd-party PPA or infected program?
[06:23] <Guest786535> I was just wondering because software center told me to only install things from trusted sources.
[06:23] <lotuspsychje> !ppa | dw1
[06:23] <Jammerx2> I believe that was discontinued PupUsereb2f67, might be better off with xfce
[06:23] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: you can use something like xfce
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> dw1: there is always a danger, for untrusted software, rootkits, malicious banners in browsers
[06:24] <qin> Where would you look for some info about volume of donations from 14.04 download page?
[06:24] <PupUsereb2f67> holstein: That's what I'm using right now, but I like Unity better.
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> dw1: but there are security tools to tighten your system
[06:25] <dw1> lotuspsychje: yeah.  personally i haven't used anti-virus for at least a decade and haven't been infected because I don't click on stupid stuff or install obscure programs :)
[06:25] <holstein> PupUsereb2f67: it requires 3d
[06:25] <lotuspsychje> !security | dw1
[06:25] <PupUsereb2f67> Guest786535: Theoretically, yes, but getting a virus is just incredibly rare. I've installed tons of ppa programs and never got malware.
[06:25] <holstein> you can have issues with malware while running antivirus programs, and using them improperly
[06:26] <dw1> yeah the problem with anti-virus programs is the virus has to be first detected before the program can find it.. so if you're up against any good programmer, you won't detect it
[06:26] <lotuspsychje> dw1: i like snort, rkhunter,nmap and complex passwords
[06:26] <Jammerx2> lotuspsychje, there is definitely always a danger but you are significantly less likely to run into a virus on Linux and accidentally running it
[06:26] <someHuman> Hello!
[06:26] <someHuman> How do I take a screenshot?
[06:27] <dw1> PrintScreen
[06:27] <qin> someHuman: PrtSc key
[06:27] <someHuman> Via keyboard shortcut?
[06:27] <PupUsereb2f67> It's such a shame. Unity's interface is designed to be good on netbooks, but it's so resource hungry that it lags like hell.
[06:27] <someHuman> qin: Then?
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> Jammerx2: thats true its more secure, but on not-updated browser i would be still carefull fro pcbanking malicious banners
[06:27] <dw1> How do I configure the screenshot program to automatically save the screenshot instead of popping up the dialog? :-/
[06:27] <qin> someHuman: You should have some silly effect and info than file was saved
[06:27] <PupUsereb2f67> Does Hand of Thief still exist?
[06:27] <someHuman> qin: I don't get any.
[06:27] <lotuspsychje> dw1: did you try kazam?
[06:28] <dw1> dconf on gnome-screensaver entries didn't do anything :(
[06:28] <dw1> lotuspsychje: no.. it used to work how  I want it in 13.10 but changed on upgrade
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> !info kazam | dw1
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> very handy
[06:28] <lotuspsychje> also lightweight to record desktop to video
[06:29] <Jammerx2> lotuspsychje, I wouldn't consider blocking malicious sites to be necessarily part of an antivirus, I'm sure there's addons for browsers to cover that
[06:29] <someHuman> I am stuck with this, trying to set up my HP wireless printer. http://imgur.com/LNkHRWE
[06:29] <someHuman> I was stuck in that step.
[06:29] <PupUsereb2f67> I've found recordmydesktop to be less intrusive.
[06:29] <dw1> yeah, lot of third party apps out there but i just want it to save without the dialog like it was in 13.10
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> someHuman: did you install hplip tools?
[06:30] <dw1> oh i meant dconf on gnome-screenshot, not screensaver
[06:30] <someHuman> lotuspsychje: That's what am doing lol, then I gut stuck.
[06:30] <lotuspsychje> someHuman: what happens when you press connect?
[06:31] <someHuman> lotuspsychje: I am literally stuck lol, it doesn't do anything. I tjust shows me this loading mouse pointer whenever I hover over the window.
[06:32] <lotuspsychje> someHuman: maybe start the hplip from a terminal, to see errors?
[06:33] <lotuspsychje> bbl
[06:37] <Multbrelch> Hi all: I have 14.04 and a HP EliteBook 2170p - I cannot change the brightness of the screen
[06:38] <Multbrelch> Any ideas?
[06:39] <clue_h> Multbrelch, there is a way, which may work, in the grub menu config, appending a line to say backlight=vendor, google that term
[06:39] <Multbrelch> k
[06:39] <Multbrelch> bizarr since under 13.30 it worked out of the box
[06:39] <clue_h> Multbrelch, it happened with my intel
[06:40] <kolt> omg
[06:40] <kolt> o_o
[06:40] <kolt> helloo?
[06:42] <Multbrelch> Q: There are not many updates (sudo apt-get update/dist-upgrade) in 14.04, is that normal?
[06:44] <tsimpson> Multbrelch: it's been out for all of two days, so there's not going to be many updates yet
[06:47] <asdfguest> hallo, how can i hog all the bandwidth in shortest time possible
[06:47] <asdfguest> ping with big packets and -f ?
[06:49] <someHuman> Ah
[06:49] <qin> asdfguest: usually it is number/volume/quality of connections factor, but #networking will certainly help you. Why would you want to hog it?
[06:49] <someHuman> So that's why am stuck with HP wireless printer setup haha! I removed the USB cable, I thought it wasn't needed because I was I thought it only needed wifi haha!
[06:49] <someHuman> Oh well lol!
[06:50] <asdfguest> because someone uses it extensively, and i wish to hog it from the start to teach a lesson for a whole month
[06:52] <euryale> @holstein. What is the proper way of installing amd drivers?
[06:52] <qin> asdfguest: if you have access to router, there is crude macfilter, if not  - ask admin. for wi-fi arp poisoning should be better, wont kill your own connection but disconnect unwanted peer.
[06:57] <henrylinux> hi
[06:57] <henrylinux> on ubuntu gnome, how can I change the ... "depth" of the dash search?
[06:57] <henrylinux> it doesn't find all files :/
[06:59] <qin> henrylinux: not all files in your /home/ ?
[06:59] <volkan> Hey, I changed DNS servers but after restart they were gone. How can I prevent this?
[06:59] <llutz> volkan: how did you change them?
[07:00] <volkan> llutz, via resolv.conf
[07:00] <llutz> volkan: edit /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head  or base and add them there, run sudo resolvconf -u after
[07:01] <henrylinux> qin, yes, they are
[07:01] <henrylinux> qin,  just not only in the typical xorg-user-dirs, I've created some folders of my own. or is that a problem?
[07:03] <qin> henrylinux: where are xorg-user-dirs ?
[07:03] <volkan> llutz, Thanks, I'll try. What is the difference between /etc/resolv.conf  and /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/head ?
[07:03] <henrylinux> qin, in my home of course... :)
[07:03] <llutz> volkan: /etc/resolv.conf will be created from those files in /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/*
[07:03] <qin> henrylinux: do "locate" see them?
[07:04] <henrylinux> qin, yup it did
[07:04] <volkan> llutz, OK, thanks!
[07:04] <henrylinux> qin,  wait no I didn't try that. I used gnome-search-tool and that saw them
[07:07] <volkan> Any suggestion for torrent?
[07:07] <qin> 64bit
[07:09] <majod> hi. can anyone compare notebook battery life on 14.04 vs windows 8?
[07:11] <qin> majod: Since Linux kernel is monolithic, unlike Windows hybrid's one, it will drain battery faster, comfort yourself that Ubuntu is fairly more stable.
[07:11] <someHuman> Ubuntu One said I can no longer use it or backuo.
[07:11] <someHuman> backup*
[07:11] <someHuman> What else can I use for backup?
[07:11] <eutheria> does anyone use eclipse? i was wondering do you get more screen real estate with the menu being in the titlebar?
[07:11] <eutheria> someHuman: dropbox?
[07:11] <andyfied> someHuman: google drive, dropbox
[07:11] <someHuman> eutheria: Thanks!
[07:11] <qin> someHuman: Google Drive, Dropbox, many more, or own box with unison or rsync...
[07:12] <eutheria> is google drive easy to get working?
[07:12] <eutheria> i've seen some over the top ways to get it working
[07:12] <mkeer> Just installed Ubuntu (Gnome). Now I can't boot onto Windows (no, I did not overwrite my windows partition)
[07:12] <andyfied> eutheria: not sure if drive is that easy to get integrated with ubuntu, dropbox works very well though.
[07:13] <henrylinux> does anyone here have two Windows/Super keys on his/her keyboard and they working ootb on UBuntu?
[07:13] <qin> eutheria: grive is fairly simple.
[07:13] <trepido> Hi! I have a weird problem with my Java IDE  - either I don't have the right click menu or the top (file) menu does not work
[07:13] <eutheria> andyfied: for me too
[07:13] <mkeer> it says something like EndEntire ...  error cannot load image
[07:13] <henrylinux> (asking baout vanilla ubuntu)
[07:13] <eutheria> i like dropbox a lot, so quick to get working
[07:15] <eutheria> i am debating about going back to ubuntu
[07:16] <rww> ok
[07:18] <andyfied> eutheria: dropbox does work great on ubuntu, i had no prblems, installed quick and worked immediately, plus works fine on android (does need an additional app to auto-sync) the only issue is privacy, but you can always encrypt things into archives
[07:19] <henrylinux> spideroak!
[07:21] <andyfied> eutheria: for gdrive, there is syncdrive which looks easy enough to install. i've not tried it myself, but i may do later today
[07:21] <eutheria> andyfied: i wouldn't use any cloud service for a backup, i would normally use a local nas
[07:22] <eutheria> andyfied: it was someone else who asked the question, i was just commenting on that gdrive isn't easy to get working
[07:22] <madrazr> Is there anyone here using a 4K display with Ubuntu? perhaps Seiki for regular computer usage like programming/reading?
[07:22] <madrazr> and has anybody been able to find a font that is not terrible?
[07:22] <madrazr> jaggy etc?
[07:23] <madrazr> *jagged
[07:23] <andyfied> eutheria: good plan, local backups are quicker but cloud is obviously good for high availiablity. i have noticed syncdrive is no longer supported :/ nevermind! good luck
[07:25] <elroy> what is the consensus of the channel on moving from 13.10 to 14.04, upgrade or fresh install?
[07:26] <cfhowlett> elroy freshest is bestest
[07:26] <henrylinux> go to arch linux for the real stuff
[07:26] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|henrylinux
[07:26] <eutheria> andyfied: well you can get a lot of those nas devices to push backups to a cloud provider
[07:26] <Tex_Nick> elroy: a clean install is preferable ;)
[07:27] <elroy> just so tempting to click that Upgrade pop up button :)
[07:27] <shahan> where in the file system are programs like vlc or qbitorrent installed? like when i say "qbitorrent" into the terminal and it runs, what and where is it linking to?
[07:27] <henrylinux> does anyone here have two Windows keys and can use them ootb on vanilla Ubuntu 14.04?
[07:28] <llutz> shahan: "dpkg -L packagename" shows you
[07:28] <henrylinux> not having synapse on Xubuntu 14.01 makes me want to migrate
[07:28] <cfhowlett> henrylinux don't let us stop you, but please keep the off-topic commentary to yourself or the off-topic channel
[07:29] <Loshki> elroy: if you're prepared to do a full install, then you've nothing to lose by clicking upgrade. What's the worst that can happen?
[07:29] <henrylinux> no I'm serious, I didn't manage to get the right one working on UBuntu Gnome.
[07:29] <shahan> llutz: thanks
[07:30] <henrylinux> I just don't want to use the left super key to open the dash / search window, whether it's in unity or gnome
[07:30] <shahan> what would be the command to search my entire file system for a file with "some string" in it?  'find "string" /"  with '/' being root directory?
[07:30] <henrylinux> cfhowlett,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/450022/
[07:30] <shahan> find and grep
[07:31] <llutz> shahan: sudo grep -ri "some string" /
[07:31] <shahan> llutz: thanks you rule
[07:31] <elroy> Ubuntu Gnome seems like a rising star
[07:32] <elroy> If I was gonna switch someone from XP, that would be my choice
[07:35] <chadwin> IM LOVING UBUNTU 14.04......yayyyyyyyyyy....lol
[07:36] <Alex_____> Is anyone there???
[07:36] <dasraspberri> chadwin: so aweesomeeee.....!!
[07:36] <cfhowlett> Alex_____ ask your support question
[07:37] <Alex_____> I am new to ubuntu.I am using ubuntu12.04.After an updation I can't use my wifi .
[07:37] <Alex_____> Please help!!
[07:40] <sloopdroop> I have to restart network-manager after suspend/hibernate but aint really sure how to "debug". Any pointers?
[07:41] <sloopdroop> the applet does just show "Enable Networking", pressing it does absolutely nothing.
[07:41] <sloopdroop> nm-cli commands does nothing.
[07:42] <sloopdroop> Wow, it is quite here today...
[07:42] <Alex_____> i have tried to update and upgrade and then install linux-firmware as i read on net. but this too is causing error.
[07:42] <sloopdroop> s/te/et/
[07:43] <sloopdroop> Alex_____: what is the error message?
[07:44] <Alex_____> hey i can send a screen shot.but how do i send it to you???
[07:44] <Jammerx2> imgur.com
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !paste| Alex_____
[07:48] <AndroUser> I reset ccsm prefs to get compiz CPU usage down, but got the unity launcher and everything disabled. Even if I launch ccsm, it appears half off screen due to my dual moniyor setup. I cant figure out how to move it. Ehat sgould I do?
[07:49] <Alex_____> http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=306438
[07:50] <gshmu> system can't open http://w.qq.com
[07:50] <Alex_____> hello did you get it???
[07:51] <gshmu> Yeastday it's ok
[07:52] <Alex_____> what should i do?? please guide me!!
[07:52] <henrylinux> AndroUser, http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[07:52] <sloopdroop> Alex_____: it is just complaining about not having your language completely installed.
[07:53] <sloopdroop> Alex_____: it might be more problems further down
[07:53] <gshmu> if any one can open http://w.qq.com
[07:53] <Alex_____> okay hold on i will upload more!
[07:53] <cfhowlett> gshmu qq is at www.qq.com
[07:54] <sloopdroop> Alex_____: I would recommend you to go to Settings (the application) -> Language support, and install complete support for your language.
[07:54] <gshmu> cfhowlett: w.qq.com it's smartQQ
[07:54] <gshmu> cfhowlett:  yeastday it's ok
[07:55] <cfhowlett> gshmu http://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/w.qq.com
[07:55] <AndroUser> Henrylinux: Let ne try the sexobd method.
[07:55] <gshmu> cfhowlett: 404 me too
[07:56] <henrylinux> AndroUser, huh?
[07:56] <cfhowlett> gshmu so - 404 confirmed
[07:58] <gshmu> cfhowlett: how to  using downforeveryoneorjustme.com/w.qq.com
[07:58] <gshmu> cfhowlett: thanks
[07:58] <cfhowlett> gshmu downforeveryoneorjustme.com    is used to verify if any website is ... down for everyone or just you
[07:59] <gshmu> cfhowlett: I got it after try google.com
[07:59] <gshmu> cfhowlett: thanks a lot
[08:00] <lalalalalala> account-plugin-irc does not work properly
[08:09] <riverloop> Hello, anyone over here?
[08:09] <lalalalalala> just ask riverloop
[08:09] <riverloop> I'm using trusty and there are no window borders for LibreOffice Writer.
[08:10] <riverloop> http://s3.postimg.org/5gv9i1f0z/Screenshot_from_2014_04_17_21_58_20.png
[08:10] <riverloop> I cannot use the minimize, maximize and close buttons, because of this.
[08:10] <riverloop> Annoying. Anybody experiencing the same issue and has a fix?
[08:10] <lagbox> for the meanwhile .. alt+right click
[08:10] <riverloop> Btw, Calc and Impress don't seem to be affected.
[08:11] <lalalalalala> riverloop: i am facing the same problem with firefox
[08:11] <rigo> hi. i use 14.04 it came with kernel 3.13 but there is already 3.14.1 when will this 3.14 be available officially? (i mean with apt-get dist-upgrade)
[08:11] <riverloop> lalalalala: firefox is okay for me.
[08:11] <lagbox> and alt+left-click to move the window
[08:13] <lalalalalala> rigo: canonical provides patches for the 3.13
[08:14] <rigo> im just not sure how this works. it clear it must be tested etc etc. but how long? i mean v3.13-trusty/ was releasee 20-Jan-2014 04:02 and 3.14 non rc is 31-Mar-2014 05:20
[08:14] <rigo> stupid keyboard i cant type sry.
[08:15] <penth> Darn, I just found an annoyance in 12.04. If I doubleclick a shell script that I'd given a desktop icon, it only opens it for editing in gedit, rather than asking whether I want to run it. (and yes, the executable bits are still set)
[08:15] <penth> s/12.04/14.04/
[08:16] <penth> When I had it in 12.04 it gave me the option
[08:17] <lalalalalala> penth: open Files then edit > preferences and behaviour tab and check executable text file to ask it's time
[08:18] <nullbyte_> skype and 14.04 can't be installed now
[08:18] <penth> There it is, perfect. Thanks, lalalalalala
[08:18] <nullbyte_> maybe lateR?
[08:19] <andyfied> nullbyte_: i have skype running
[08:19] <Meerkat> why is #ubuntu+1 invite-only all of a sudden? common practice after release?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> nullbyte_ http://www.tecmint.com/install-skype-4-1-in-ubuntu-xubuntu-linux-mint/
[08:19] <cfhowlett> nullbyte_ should still work in 14.04
[08:20] <nullbyte_> andyfied: skype4?
[08:21] <riverloop> Hy, I've google chrome installed and the menu buttons are on the right. How can I bring them back to left just like every other application?
[08:21] <penth> Argh, and gnome-terminal has an extra menu line rather than playing nicely
[08:22] <llutz> penth: --hide-menubar
[08:22] <penth> llutz, that will make it appear in the top again?
[08:23] <llutz> penth: no, it will hide it completly
[08:24] <andyfied> nullbyte_: 4.2.0.11, though i guess i didn't install it on 14.04 as i upgraded from 13.10
[08:25] <penth> well, not like I ever used the menu. I've been using the hud to retitle tabs :)
[08:27] <llutz> penth: you can always rightclick somewhere into the terminal and activate "show menubar" again
[08:27] <penth> ty for letting me grouse and adjust. Only 9 years running ubuntu, you'd think I'd be used to inexplicable surprises by now :)
[08:32] <lysobit> How do I disable the guest account in Ubuntu 14.04?
[08:34] <clue_h> lysobit, edit 50-ubuntu.conf in /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d by adding allow-guest=false, but check google first see if syntax is right
[08:35] <clue_h> pretty sure that it is, allow-guest=false
[08:35] <llutz> clue_h: it is
[08:35] <hero1900> hi i have wierd issue i have two hard disks one is mssd and the other is sata when i attack the sata the system will give me black screen with no cursor and the laptop will heat up any suggestion??
[08:36] <clue_h> attack?
[08:36] <hero1900> i try to do grub reinstallation it worked for a while then i got this issue again and again
[08:36] <hero1900> ??
[08:36] <hero1900> attach
[08:36] <hero1900> wrong typo
[08:36] <hero1900> :)
[08:38] <hero1900> i installed ubuntu on the mssd and the bootloader also on it the sata is just ffor media
[08:38] <hero1900> but the system will not boot if the sata attached
[08:38] <hero1900> if i remove it the system will boot normally
[08:41] <clue_h> hero1900, it could be a bunch of bad sectors or something on the hardware level like that, can you check the health of this sata disk
[08:42] <lysobit> clue_h: thanks
[08:42] <hero1900> yes and all good and i also attache other sata and i have the same issue
[08:42] <bernard> !countdown
[08:43] <hero1900> also if i remove mssd the system will boot
[08:43] <hero1900> so the issue is when they are both attached
[08:47] <bluezone> Vertical sync issues in vlc
[08:47] <slawuta> Hi, I have a strange problem with window borders in Ubuntu 12.04
[08:47] <bluezone> what is it
[08:48] <slawuta> The system used to work without any issues. No updates were made because this hardware is terribly old.
[08:48] <slawuta> Window borders are gone, windows are impossible to move even when you hold down alt.
[08:48] <bluezone> odd
[08:48] <slawuta> What could be the problem ? What's responsible for window borders in Xubuntu/XFCE ?
[08:48] <bluezone> which ubuntu is this
[08:49] <slawuta> Xubuntu 12.04
[08:49] <Lukas1321> slawuta, have you got compiz-config installed?
[08:49] <cfhowlett> slawuta #xfce might be worth a visit
[08:49] <bluezone> can always try resetting the ui
[08:49] <bluezone> typing unity or whatnot
[08:50] <chyoo> why intelij idea 13.1 community don't support grails framework
[08:50] <slawuta> libconfigcompiz present.
[08:50] <matt_> hi
[08:51] <chyoo> i should do what to make it support it ?
[08:53] <lagbox> http://confluence.jetbrains.com/display/IntelliJIDEA/Grails
[08:53] <slawuta> Or maybe it's hardware dying ? HDD falling apart ? How do I check a drive from the command line ?
[08:54] <slawuta> Most GUI programs don't work or have problems. Firefox doesn't get past the initial screen, so google doesn't work.
[08:55] <MReza> hi
[08:58] <baaastou> hello
[09:05] <baaastou> hello?
[09:10] <Dreaman> os[Linux 3.13.0-24-generic x86_64] distro[Ubuntu "trusty" 14.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon(tm) 7750 Dual-Core Processor (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.70GHz] mem[Physical: 3.6GB, 89.5% free] disk[Total: 228.5GB, 24.6% free] video[NVIDIA Corporation C77 [GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a]] ether[NVIDIA Corporation MCP77 Ethernet] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia]
[09:11] <bekks> Dreaman: Do you have a specific ubuntu support question?
[09:11] <Dreaman> yes nvidia driver not work
[09:11] <Dreaman> :)
[09:12] <Dreaman> use free driver :(
[09:12] <asturel_> is there some app for ubuntu for instant pastes?
[09:12] <asturel_> like wgetpaste
[09:12] <bekks> Define "not work". Does it sit outside and drinks beer with his friend? Which nvidia driver do you use?
[09:12] <bekks> !pastebinit | asturel_
[09:13] <asturel_> but it requires user+pw
[09:13] <eutheria> does eclipse now work with the global menu system?
[09:13] <asturel_> isnt it?
[09:13] <bekks> asturel_: No?
[09:13] <bekks> eutheria: No.
[09:13] <eutheria> and can i hide the sidebar?
[09:13] <asturel_> ok then
[09:13] <bekks> eutheria: No.
[09:13] <eutheria> bekks: darn, and double darn
[09:13] <Evidenz> bekks but you can auto hide it can't you?
[09:14] <eutheria> auto hide is fine
[09:14] <bekks> Evidenz: I didnt know that - if you can, thats good :)
[09:14] <eutheria> ok single darn
[09:15] <eutheria> having the global menu for eclipse is a good feature for me, more screen for code the better
[09:20] <NGC3982> Morning. :-)
[09:23] <dungeon_crawler> or evening
[09:27] <henry_> How do i remove the acpi=off boot option in 14.04?
[09:41] <koksal> join #ubuntu-uyghurix/
[09:41] <chulis> I have the system in spanish but the clock calendar appears in portugue ¿how can i put in spanish as well?
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> chulis  system settings > language support
[09:43] <chulis> i have lubuntu
[09:43] <opalepatrick> HI, am I going to get trouble (particularly with boot manager) if I install 14.04 on a separate partition so I can get it up to speed before switching from 13.10?
[09:43] <Annia> grub_term_highlight_color not found
[09:44] <Annia> I just updated to 14.04 and grub crashed
[09:44] <Annia> So I booted from a 12.04 livecd
[09:45] <Annia> What should I do
[09:46] <opalepatrick> this looks the part - http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd
[09:46] <opalepatrick> Annia ^^
[09:46] <opalepatrick> Read it first though
[09:47] <gshmu> opalepatrick: using 12.04 liveCD repair 14.04 grub ???
[09:47] <Annia> I tried mkdir /tmp/drive
[09:47] <Annia> sudo mount /dev/sdX1 /tmp/drive
[09:47] <Annia> sudo mount --bind /dev /tmp/drive/dev
[09:47] <Annia> sudo mount --bind /proc /tmp/drive/proc
[09:47] <Annia> sudo mount --bind /sys /tmp/drive/sys
[09:47] <Annia> sudo chroot /tmp/drive
[09:47] <unopaste> Annia you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:48] <papy-junior> bonjour
[09:49] <opalepatrick> gshmu, sorry not giving advice just siggesting that it can be repaired. Not knowledgeable enough to do that. But know it is perfectly possible.
[09:49] <bekks> !grub2 | Annia
[09:50] <gshmu> opalepatrick: LiveCD repair grub it's right
[09:50] <opalepatrick> gshmu, I have done it myself a couple of times but never remember the details :-)
[09:52] <Annia> But it found 3.8.0-13
[09:52] <Annia> It should found 3.11.x…
[09:53] <Annia> So when I boot to14.04
[09:53] <Annia> How should I update grub？
[09:53] <gshmu> Annia: Make a 14.04 LiveCD first
[09:55] <gshmu> Annia: and then repair grub
[09:56] <Gordio> # apt-get install uwsgi
[09:56] <Gordio> … installing ...
[09:56] <Gordio> uwsgi start/running, process 12801
[09:56] <hejux> so many people here.
[09:56] <Gordio> How manualy restart this service?
[09:56] <Gordio> service uwsgi don't exist.
[09:57] <bekks> Gordio: sudo /etc/init.d/uswgi restart
[09:58] <Annia> 13.04
[09:58] <Gordio> ls: cannot access /etc/init.d/uwsgi: No such file or directory
[09:58] <bekks> !raring | Annia
[09:59] <MonkeyDust> Gordio  is that a server? if yes: try #ubuntu-server
[10:00] <Gordio> MonkeyDust: thx.
[10:01] <Annia> …the CD is 13.04？
[10:03] <Lost> does each version of ubuntu have it's own repositories list?
[10:03] <Annia> Perhaps my grub was on dev/sda7
[10:04] <Annia> but system on dev/sda 8
[10:04] <Annia> I know
[10:04] <ANub> Hello
[10:05] <ANub> Does someone know how to block mac addr using ubuntu firewall "ufw"..?
[10:08] <_95A31_> Hi guys, I have just installed 14.04 but at first boot I have: request_module: runaway loop modprobe binfmt-464c some idea ?
[10:11] <vlt> Hello. How can I just unmount an USB drive on standard Ubuntu 13.10?
[10:12] <tracyone> Can someone recommend a theme for unity
[10:12] <MonkeyDust> !themes | tracyone start here
[10:13] <miguelg_> Hello, trying to build a package with dpkg-buildpackage with 8 parallel jobs but only one  job is spawned.
[10:13] <miguelg_> Tried with dpkg_buildpackage -j8, setting MAKEFLAGS and even setting DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=parallel=8
[10:13] <miguelg_> no joy. I'm sure I'm missing something -- help?
[10:13] <clue_h> how many processors?
[10:14] <miguelg_> 8 logical; 4 physical
[10:14] <Annia> So how to boot from /dev/sda7？
[10:14] <clue_h> have you tried building with make alone, with the -j param?
[10:15] <Annia> I am on tty6 of 14.04
[10:15] <Annia> It seems sth wrong with graphics
[10:16] <miguelg_> clue_h:  yes; both make- j8 and MAKEFLAGS=-j8 use all cores
[10:16] <rigo> what to do if i have a webcam but its not working. to more be specific the webcam is on /dev/video0 but i.e skype shows only black screen (as a video webchat flash app)
[10:16] <MonkeyDust> rigo  does it work with cheese?
[10:16] <rol_and> my server keeps rebooting into recovery mode. i have no idea how to troubleshoot the issue. any advice ?
[10:17] <rigo> never heard of it. i install it. but i say 99% it will not work
[10:18] <bekks> rol_and: thats the last saved boot menu entry known to be good. can you boot it into "normal" mode manually?
[10:18] <MonkeyDust> rigo  first try it, to exclude that 1%
[10:18] <dw1> rigo: just type cheese in terminal, or in apps
[10:18] <rigo> installing it :)
[10:18] <rol_and> bekks:  im trying now, it takes me into runlevel 1
[10:18] <bekks> rol_and: It tells you why, too.
[10:19] <rol_and> bekks:  not able to do notice it.. i'm connected through console to a remote DC
[10:19] <bekks> rol_and: you need access to the boot menu.
[10:19] <bekks> rol_and: that means: physical access.
[10:19] <rigo> damn its hungarian :D well the errormessage is like "there was an error playing video through webcam"
[10:20] <bekks> rol_and: or at least a remote console
[10:20] <rol_and> bekks:  im connecting to remote console right now..
[10:21] <naxil> hello
[10:21] <wiebels> Ubuntu 14.04 Home Server on SSD with 2x 1TB Samsung drives; what filesystem would you pick for the RAID drives??
[10:21] <naxil> i want delete a specific refresh rate (more of 60hz) how i can do it?
[10:22] <Annia> New linux image is on /dev/sda7
[10:22] <rigo> MonkeyDust dwl i found it in english exactly: "There was an error playing video from webcam"
[10:22] <rol_and> bekks:  i get into "initramfs"
[10:22] <bekks> rol_and: when doing what?
[10:22] <Annia> How to change /dev#sda7 as /boot
[10:22] <rol_and> bekks:  now connected to console, and if i slect the first record in the grub menu (which is booting normally to ubuntu) it takes me to initramfs
[10:22] <bekks> rol_and: and it tells you wahy it does.
[10:22] <naxil> rigo if is "old" webcam u need to pre_load= different .so file
[10:23] <rigo> weird is that the webcam is well.... not new. :) and i was nice.
[10:23] <dw1> Annia: sudo update-grub may find it, then grub-install and you can choose at the boot screen maybe
[10:23] <rol_and> bekks:  though i noticed while booting tht theres a prob with one of the disks, it shows this: " hdio_get_identity: failed of /dev/sdl  invalid argument"
[10:23] <opalepatrick> OK, so if I install 14.04 on a separate partition will the boot manager show both my old (13.10) and new installs? home is separate anyway.
[10:23] <rigo> naxil: i tried something like pre_load. but not sure what to load exactly
[10:23] <rol_and> bekks:  then it times out and drops to shell
[10:24] <bekks> rol_and: do you use iscsi?
[10:24] <rol_and> bekks:  correct
[10:24] <bekks> rol_and: Then fix your iscsi connections.
[10:24] <naxil> vdpau firts version instead second version
[10:24] <Annia> Ok it's right
[10:24] <Annia> 3.11-19
[10:24] <rol_and> bekks:  u mean this could be a physical hw issue
[10:24] <rol_and> ?
[10:24] <rigo> this old sh|t http://www.amincon.net/images/USB%20webcam.jpg
[10:24] <Annia> Thanks
[10:24] <bekks> rol_and: Obviously, they are broken, the initiator cant connect, and booting breaks.
[10:25] <bekks> rol_and: YOU have to find that out :)
[10:25] <dw1> Annia: or you may be able to manually boot from grub
[10:25] <rol_and> bekks:  it could be related to my raid as the array which had boot on it is broken now
[10:25] <rigo> there is no brand there is no nothing. i think it should be supported out of box since 2001 :)
[10:26] <bekks> rol_and: do you use a raid upon iscsi devices?
[10:26] <dw1> Annia: with something like http://askubuntu.com/questions/38082/how-do-i-manually-boot-from-the-grub-prompt-after-do-release-upgrade
[10:27] <Annia> Thanks
[10:28] <Annia> Successfully booted 14.04
[10:30] <rol_and> bekks:  i  asked the DC support to plug in a drive and install ubuntu on it . (that way i could reboot into a new isntallation and troubleshoot my raid from there) is there a way i could edit grub to read from the new installation
[10:30] <rol_and> bekks:  i can't get the uuid of the new disk though...
[10:31] <rigo> i read i hould preload /usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so
[10:32] <rigo> but i dont have such
[10:32] <kostkon> !find v4l1compat.so
[10:32] <bekks> rol_and: you have to fix your iscsi connections first.
[10:33] <Debolaz2> I'm trying to install Ubuntu on my iMac with ATI Radeon in EFI mode, but when I boot up, all I get is a black screen. I know it got to the login prompt because I heard the sound for it, and the radeon driver seems to detect my display and load, but still... Blackness. Anyone know what the problem might be?
[10:33] <MonkeyDust> rigo  try    sudo apt-get install libv4l-0
[10:33] <rigo> MonkeyDust: well.. :) good idea. sounds good. thanks. i give a try. but do you think this is the library i need?
[10:34] <MonkeyDust> rigo  not sure, never had that issue myself
[10:34] <rigo> hhhmmm. it sais it is already the latest version. i search for the so file
[10:35] <euryale> hi
[10:36] <euryale> where is the best place to download deb packages for apps mostly in the ubuntu repo?
[10:36] <MonkeyDust> euryale  'best place'?
[10:37] <euryale> i mean website?
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> euryale  why do you need a website?
[10:37] <euryale> i reinstalled 14.04 3x today i don't want to download the packages over and over again.
[10:38] <MonkeyDust> euryale  use synaptic or the software center
[10:39] <euryale> yes but can i use it to download deb?
[10:39] <MonkeyDust> euryale  start from the beginning, what brings you here
[10:40] <euryale> because i want someone to assist me regarding packages that involve ubuntu.
[10:40] <rigo> MonkeyDust naxil it works. i had to search for the .so and follow this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam/Troubleshooting
[10:40] <euryale> know some ways i can get i around what i wanted to do.
[10:40] <tore_> hi. anyone know if "linux-generic-lts-trusty" will be backported to precise, in the same way linux-generic-lts-{quantal,raring,saucy} was?
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> rigo  great!
[10:41] <MonkeyDust> euryale  and what is it you want to do? why install the same distro 3 times?
[10:43] <euryale> cause i have mess up the video driver so re-installed it again. but that's not my concern now, i wanted to know if where i can download deb packages for apps in the ubuntu repo, so i can keep those and never have to download it again.
[10:44] <MonkeyDust> euryale      sudo apt-get download [package name]
[10:45] <euryale> really? it will download in the home folder?
[10:45] <MonkeyDust> euryale  yes, to the folder you're in, just tried it
[10:46] <euryale> nice, i will try :) thanks
[10:46] <MonkeyDust> euryale  didn't know it myself, thank you too :)
[10:47] <euryale> oh one more thing, if for example all those packages are in the same folder, how do i install all of it in the terminal.
[10:47] <kostkon> tore_, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTU5NTk
[10:47] <astroduck> Hi! Is there any restriction on the icon size/format of unity launcher shortcuts?
[10:48] <astroduck> I am trying to set icon for an application in `main menu` but its not working
[10:48] <tore_> kostkon: awesome, thanks
[10:48] <kostkon> tore_, np
[10:51] <kostkon> !details | astroduck
[10:51] <skinofstars> hey guys. i've just upgraded and i've lost mouse scroll on the touchpad
[10:52] <Lannister69> I hear there is a pidgin plugin that supports skype. does anyone know if it also supports skype video call or its just text????
[10:52] <skinofstars> is mouse scroll normally just updated in setting? 'cause there aren't any scroll options in there anymolre
[10:55] <euryale> @MonkeyDust. Thanks man :D it's better than restoring backup by deja dup :)
[10:55] <Lannister69> Does anyone know if skype plugin for pidgin also supports video call or its just text??????
[10:56] <astroduck> I installed Photoshop using wine, and created a launcher for it using `main menu`. (Wine did create one for me but I didn't notice that) The icon I selected for mine was a 1024x1024 png. but it shows up as a white tile in dash. I tried changing the size to 512x512, 256x256, 128x128 but no luck! The default one had an icon, so i disabled the shortcut I created but still it didnt work. So I deleted both
[10:56] <astroduck> launcher shortcuts but one still shows up in dash (weird)
[10:57] <paulus68> after doing a fresh install of 14.04 I get this error at startup Zoekresultaten
[10:57] <paulus68>     error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found anyone knows how to solve this
[11:00] <Ensifolk> I installed a fresh 14.04 earlier today, I installed Chrome 64 as well. If I minimise chrome to the Unity launcher, and then open it again, Chrome's tab bar will become unresponsive and I can't select any opened tab, unless I un-expand and then expand the window. Any idea why?
[11:01] <minimec> astroduck: Try to change the size 64px or 48 px.
[11:01] <MonkeyDust> euryale  glad i could help!
[11:01] <rol_and> bekks:  if i'm on grub command line, how can i detect which hd has the boot partition there's more than 8 Hds
[11:02] <kostkon> astroduck, you might need to log out and log back in. Or the desktop file might still be in ~/.local/share/applications    try using the full file path for the icon
[11:03] <kostkon> astroduck, a good size is 512x512, 1024x is probably an overkill
[11:04] <Aki-Thinkpad> !ping
[11:04] <kostkon> !pong
[11:04] <kostkon> :)
[11:05] <astroduck> kostkon: where should I save the icon file? same folder as .deskop file?
[11:05] <kostkon> astroduck, anywhere
[11:05] <astroduck> .desktop *
[11:05] <Lukas1321> !ping
[11:06] <MonkeyDust> astroduck  /usr/share/pixmaps/ contains a lot of icons
[11:06] <clue_h> and /usr/share/icons
[11:06] <kostkon> astroduck, you could always save it in your theme's folder, and then refer to it by its name in your desktop file etc.
[11:06] <Lannister69> !king
[11:07] <kostkon> astroduck, although that would require a little more work
[11:08] <Lannister69> !wing
[11:09] <sydneyJDykstra1> What other ubuntu torrnts should i seed? I am already doing lubuntu,ubuntu gnome,and xubuntu. Thanks in advance!!
[11:09] <astroduck> kostkon: I'll try logging in/out and see if it works :) brb
[11:09] <MonkeyDust> sydneyJDykstra1  kubuntu
[11:11] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra1 ubuntustudio
[11:11] <astroduck> kostkon: No, now it doesn't even show up in dash :(
[11:11] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra1 and ubuntu-server
[11:12] <cfhowlett> sydneyJDykstra1 edubuntu
[11:12] <cocacola> hallo
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> sydneyJDykstra1  and fedora     (joke)
[11:12] <t4ng0> guys help |  mate-desktop-environment : Depends: atril (>= 1.6.0) but it is not going to be installed
[11:12] <sydneyJDykstra1> just the main ubuntu server?
[11:12] <kostkon> astroduck, are you sure that the .desktop file is being saved in ~/.locate/share/applications
[11:12] <kostkon> astroduck, you could also paste the contents of the file
[11:13] <fizk_> hey guys, I'm about to update my apt-mirror to download trusty, but I don't have enough disk space to contain saucy and trusty
[11:14] <fizk_> does anyone know if apt-mirror will upgrade the existing packages, or will it fetch everything new?
[11:18] <coinsen> hello how can i prevent xorg / gdm / whatever gui from starting at boot?
[11:18] <llutz> !nox | coinsen
[11:19] <coinsen> llutz: thanks. but what about disabling gdm service? why does this have to happen on boot loader level?
[11:19] <astroduck> kostkon: I removed the .desktop file and added another and it worked :D, the file contains the same contents as before but for some reason it works now
[11:19] <kostkon> astroduck, nice
[11:19] <astroduck> kostkon: Thanks for your help :)
[11:19] <kostkon> astroduck, np
[11:20] <astroduck> kostkon: one more thing, will the launcher automatically update if I change the image?
[11:20] <kostkon> astroduck, it should
[11:29] <ProUbuntu> I have the Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but I can not put netspeed in the upper bar. Any sugestion?
[11:29] <DarkKnightCZ> hi, what are the alternatives to evince? after upgrade to 14.04, it's terribly slow, i've installed okular, its much, much faster, but it doesn't have "unified style"
[11:30] <kostkon> DarkKnightCZ, adobe reader?
[11:31] <Slart> I can't seem to open local swf-files in any of my browsers any more.. might have something to do with an updated mime-type for flash but I haven't really found a good solution... Is it just my system? (Running 64 bit 14.04, tried with chromium and firefox)
[11:31] <gry> How do I update from 12.04 to 14.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes has no such option.
[11:32] <DarkKnightCZ> kostkon: wow, adobe actually makes some software available for linux, i will give it a try, thanks
[11:32] <kostkon> DarkKnightCZ, np
[11:32] <MonkeyDust> !upgrade | gry
[11:32] <gry> MonkeyDust: that's what I already looked at, like you may have noticed.
[11:34] <kostkon> gry, it's not recommended yet to do so, but if you insist http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[11:35] <mnsekh> must have softwares for ubuntu 14.04 ?
[11:36] <gry> mnsekh, ncdu, quassel, seamonkey, xfce, okular. That's what I use daily anyway. (Your use-case may be different.)
[11:36] <xutl> where is ubuntu manual ? 14.04
[11:36] <xutl> !manual
[11:36] <gry> xutl, ah. I see.
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> gry  I used do-release-upgrade -d   but it took hours
[11:37] <gry> I'm okay with 8 hours (except I'm on *really* crappy network).
[11:37] <MonkeyDust> gry  and this is broadband...
[11:37] <xutl> gry: there is ubuntu 13.10 manual there and not 14.04
[11:38] <gry> xutl, okay, do they have a 'contact' or 'feedback' link?
[11:38] <xutl> MonkeyDust: depends on file uploading server also, its both ways
[11:38] <gry> xutl, as a guess, most of their content is still valid.
[11:39] <xutl> gry: yea, most of it should be valid but it'll not be updated
[11:39] <xutl> gry: no contacts or feedback there on ubuntu-manual.org
[11:40] <xutl> use torrent, download iso, burn and use it to upgrade, much quicker
[11:41] <gry> xutl, You're right. The domain whois points me to `ubuntu-manual dot org at proxy dot dreamhost dot com`.
[11:42] <kostkon> xutl, it should come out soon i guess. launchpad page is here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-manual
[11:46] <xutl> kostkon: why ubuntu manuals launchpad page states latest versiosn is "Getting started with Ubuntu13.04" when manual for 13.10 is already out and 14.04 is needed ?
[11:47] <kostkon> xutl, perhaps because the 14.04 version is not ready yet
[11:47] <k1l> xutl: file a bug so the maintainers know that there is something to change
[11:48] <xutl> k1l: ok
[11:49] <gsthero> guys-i get 	home/gsthero/.fonts/sinfontpack: caching, new cache contents: 0 fonts, 0 dirs- after fc-cache while sinfontpack is not empty anada full of ttfs
[11:49] <kostkon> xutl, there is still activity in the trunk https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-manual/ubuntu-manual/trusty
[11:49] <paulus68> gettin
[11:50] <chris_____> hi
[11:50] <chris_____> i am new here....
[11:50] <paulus68> after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normq
[11:50] <paulus68> after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found how do I solve this?
[11:51] <kostkon> chris_____, hi and welcome
[11:51] <sydneyJDykstra> chris_____: hi
[11:51] <chris_____> i just installed latest version of ubuntu...but my computer is very slow....i am a complete newbie...i have a feeling it's the drivers
[11:51] <chris_____> anyone knows how to systematically tweak it to make it faster?
[11:52] <chris_____> hi kostkon
[11:54] <DestinyAwaits> am getting this error on firefox, chrome etc 1.freenode│Official Ubuntu Support Channel | IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc | Pa>>
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[11:54] <unopaste> DestinyAwaits you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:55] <kostkon> chris_____, what is your hardware configuration
[11:55] <kostkon> DestinyAwaits, wrong paste maybe?
[11:55] <DestinyAwaits> dunno what happened
[11:55] <DestinyAwaits> it flooded i guess
[11:55] <DestinyAwaits> sorry
[11:56] <DestinyAwaits> am getting getting error on firefox and chrome
[11:56] <DestinyAwaits> dunno what error
[11:56] <DestinyAwaits> net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
[11:56] <jskid> first time to come,hi to everyone:)
[11:56] <DestinyAwaits> how to fix this?
[11:57] <DestinyAwaits> anyone there?
[11:57] <Sydney> jskid: Hello!!
[11:57] <Sydney> Yes we are here!!
[11:58] <DestinyAwaits> net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED how to fix
[11:58] <DestinyAwaits> some sites don't open up
[11:58] <jskid> what r u guys talking about?
[11:58] <DestinyAwaits> rather some pages are not getting loaded
[11:58] <DestinyAwaits> due to this
[11:59] <k1l> DestinyAwaits: did you change something on the network settings? like dns or something?
[11:59] <DestinyAwaits> no
[11:59] <jasabella> is Sydney from sydney .au? :)
[11:59] <DestinyAwaits> I don't know much
[11:59] <DestinyAwaits> what come pre-installed with Ubuntu 12.04
[11:59] <DestinyAwaits> its there
[11:59] <DestinyAwaits> is*
[11:59] <Sydney> jasabella: No,I am from the US,but that would be funny.
[11:59] <coolspot> hi
[11:59] <jasabella> awww ok
[12:00] <DestinyAwaits> any help to fix this?
[12:00] <jasabella> DestinyAwaits... are you able to ping the host from commandline?
[12:00] <DestinyAwaits> its really weird that web pages are not able to load properly
[12:00] <DestinyAwaits> let me try
[12:01] <Sydney> DestinyAwaits:  I am looking................
[12:01] <Sydney> coolspot: Hello!!
[12:01] <DestinyAwaits> jasabella: bro the site is opening up
[12:01] <DestinyAwaits> but some css, js and other stuff are not
[12:01] <jasabella> are you using a web browser?
[12:02] <DestinyAwaits> chrome and firefox
[12:02] <DestinyAwaits> chrome I installed
[12:02] <jasabella> have you disabled mixedcontent perhaps?
[12:03] <k1l> DestinyAwaits: open up Network-Manager and make sure you are connected to the right network
[12:03] <Sydney> DestinyAwaits: Are you getting the problem when you use your bookmarks? Or is it all over?
[12:03] <DestinyAwaits> ah it seems broken everywhere
[12:03] <BiFi> hi
[12:04] <DestinyAwaits> I though its only ubuntu
[12:04] <Yerst_> hey
[12:04] <DestinyAwaits> my phone is also not able to open it
[12:04] <DestinyAwaits> correctly
[12:04] <k1l> ok, so talk to your ISP
[12:04] <DestinyAwaits> its cloudfront.net
[12:04]  * Sydney does not know
[12:04] <DestinyAwaits> anyone able to ping that site?
[12:05] <DestinyAwaits> anyone able to ping cloudfront.net
[12:05] <DestinyAwaits> ?
[12:05] <jasabella> downforeveryoneorjustme.com
[12:05] <dw1> no, DNS error
[12:05] <BiFi> I've got a problem with ubuntu 14.04 on a machine with an ati radeon hd 7750
[12:05] <paulus68> after fresh install I get this error /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found how do I solve this?
[12:05] <kristenbb> in trusty, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close" and  gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close, but none worked
[12:05] <ItsYoda> dns error ^^
[12:05] <g2d> In Python, tab key doesnt working. What should I do?
[12:05] <DestinyAwaits> ok then its for everyone and I thought I messed up
[12:05] <DestinyAwaits> :)
[12:05] <DestinyAwaits> thanks everyone
[12:06] <DestinyAwaits> :)
[12:06] <BiFi> with the opensource drivers it shows garbled desktop where the pointer acts normally
[12:06] <DestinyAwaits> there is one other problem anyone using the uxrvt?
[12:06] <DestinyAwaits> it doesn't allow copy/paste
[12:06] <BiFi> with the ati drivers I don't even get to the desktop after logging in
[12:06] <DestinyAwaits> no tabs or file menu
[12:07] <DestinyAwaits> there is one other problem anyone using the uxrvt?
[12:08] <DestinyAwaits> anyone using uxrvt?
[12:08] <norad> hi im wondering how do i know if im secure from heartbleed running ubuntu 12.04
[12:08] <liefer> I have a box that is very very overloaded. I have a good guess which process is causing the overload. However, i cannot ssh to the box, it just stalls when i try - Never prompting for username/password. Is there any way i can force a "killall xyz" through to this machine?
[12:09] <kristenbb> in 14.04, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried [gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"] and  [gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close], but none worked
[12:11] <k1l_> kristenbb: just use unity-tweak-tool
[12:11] <kristenbb> k1l_: where is that tool ?
[12:11] <DestinyAwaits> anyone using uxrvt?
[12:12] <k1l_> kristenbb: install if not installed yet
[12:12] <euryale> hi guys
[12:13] <euryale> whenever i do this in the terminal: sudo apt-get download ubuntu-restricted-extras, the file will download but it's only for a few kb in the home folder, i wanted to download the whole package.
[12:13] <eloic> hello ebody very
[12:13] <eloic> everybody*
[12:14] <sonia> ciao
[12:14] <sonia> !list
[12:15] <sonia> ciao
[12:15] <kristenbb> I have just installed the calculator lens, but it is not displayed by default, I have to click in 'calculator' in the sources...why ?
[12:15] <nicofs> I regularly "lose" my pc's internal card reader after safe removal. after that it's completely gone and even it's own power led is off. a reboot fixes this - but i can't be rebooting every time i want to insert a different sd card... is that a driver issue or some known bug?
[12:16] <euryale> i get it now :)
[12:16] <kristenbb> k1l_: ok i have installed it, where can i change this option ?
[12:16] <euryale> sudo apt-get -d install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:16] <k1l_> kristenbb: that is the easter task now :) find the option ;p
[12:17] <kristenbb> k1l_: what if it's not even available there?
[12:17] <k1l_> kristenbb: i mean: if you open the tool you will see a menue even labeled with your issue
[12:18] <kristenbb> k1l_: i don't see it, is it 'additional' ?
[12:18] <Lost> does every version of ubuntu have it's own repositories?
[12:19] <euryale> @Lost. maybe
[12:19] <k1l_> kristenbb: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Screenshot-2013-02-06-135448.png  3rd row, last item, what is written there?
[12:19] <euryale> now that u mention it, im wondering about it now :)
[12:19] <k1l_> kristenbb: its even a picture
[12:19] <k1l_> Lost: yes.
[12:20] <k1l_> Lost: and mixing them will cause trouble
[12:20] <kristenbb> k1l_: i clicked on right in the alignment, but it doesn't change anything
[12:20] <euryale> @K1l. if one installed 10.04 is it possible to re-direct it's repository to 14.04?
[12:20] <kuku> hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means
[12:20] <kuku> ?
[12:20] <k1l_> euryale: no. that will make a lot of trouble. just make the upgrade twice with update-manager or do-release-upgrade
[12:21] <kristenbb> k1l_: it doesn't register my modification, when I come back to it, it's still on 'left'
[12:21] <Lost> hasn't 14.04 only been out a few days?
[12:21] <k1l_> Lost: yes, since 17th april
[12:21] <k1l_> kristenbb:did you try a relogin?
[12:21] <euryale> Oh, lol.
[12:21] <k1l_> !upgrade | euryale
[12:22] <Lost> so then how long does it usually take for a piece of software to get uploaded to the new repositories?
[12:22] <kristenbb> k1l_: well if when I close the unity tweak tool and open it back, the option is still on 'left', I'm guessing that  relogging wont change anything, right ?
[12:22] <hexafraction> Roughly how long does it take for a new openjdk release to land in Ubuntu official repositories? I'm working on an open-source project but am averse to using new features until they land in official Ubuntu repos.
[12:22] <k1l_> Lost: there are no updates in one release (some exceptions)
[12:22] <MonkeyDust> Lost  the developpers decide what goes in the repos
[12:22] <k1l_> Lost: new versions wil be introduced with the next release
[12:23] <hexafraction> Wow, fail, someone asked the same thing as I was typimh.
[12:23] <AndChat|587225> Hello
[12:23] <kuku3413> hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?
[12:23] <k1l_> kristenbb: is this a standard ubuntu? with no sudo or root stuff?
[12:24] <kristenbb> k1l_: how do you mean ?
[12:24] <demonic_> hello i want to ask if it's safe to upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 in a full encrypted system...
[12:24] <k1l_> if you made some chaos with sudo or root the file permissions could be spoiled so it doesnt change the settings
[12:25] <Lost> well this peice of software isn't a piece of ubuntu. it's a media server released by 3rd parties. I got it to install on previous versions of ubuntu, but on 14.04 it says it can't find the software.
[12:25] <euryale> @MonkeyDust. Is this correct? sudo apt-get -d download xxxx xxxx xxxx xxxx  where is xxxx is the package name, so i have multiple packages to download and its dependencies.
[12:25] <k1l_> kristenbb: ^
[12:25] <k1l_> Lost: which one exactly?
[12:25] <tytan> Ubuntu isn't distributed via torrent?
[12:25] <Lost> playstation media server
[12:25] <AndChat|587225> I had two times system crash when typing to dash on 14.04 and no login screen grom time to time. Is this common problem on 14.04?
[12:25] <tobiwan31> what is the command to change the chatroom for support in german???
[12:25] <euryale> @tytan. u can download ubuntu via torrent.
[12:25] <kristenbb> k1l_: I don't think so.
[12:25] <MonkeyDust> euryale  i tried with   -d install gftp    it downloaded, but now i can't find it
[12:26] <Lost> I can get a link to the post i'm following if you need
[12:26] <euryale> ok
[12:26] <euryale> i will try later ;)
[12:26] <gry> !torrents | tytan
[12:26] <euryale> how do u make the font color red?
[12:26] <euryale> lol nood question.
[12:26] <euryale> noob.
[12:26] <gry> euryale, red color in what? in irc?
[12:26] <tobiwan31> yes noob
[12:27] <k1l_> Lost: that was never in ubuntu repos. you always needed a PPA for that
[12:27] <euryale> yeah. if they mention my name its automatically red.
[12:27] <belgianguy> I made it to 14.04 :) had to reinstall fglrx-updates through recovery mode, but that's almost a habit now
[12:27] <k1l_> Lost: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Ps3MediaServer
[12:27] <k1l_> !de | tobiwan31
[12:27] <Lost> hmmmm, then maybe Im using the wrong language. I'm new to linux
[12:27] <tobiwan31> thx
[12:28] <Lost> I originally installed by typing 3 command lines in terminal. Let me get you that link
[12:28] <AndChat|587225> Anybody tried open as root Nautilus contextmenu on 1404? How to do that on trusty Tahr?
[12:28] <k1l_> Lost: yet, that 3 commands will most probably have added you the 3rd party repositories
[12:29] <Lost> actually the link you provided has the same information
[12:30] <jskid> anyone know something about linux VMware?I need some help
[12:30] <demonic_> hello i want to ask if it's safe to upgrade from 13.10 -> 14.04 in a full encrypted system...??
[12:30] <belgianguy> euryale: that's just your client that highlights sentences with your nick in them
[12:30] <belgianguy> so you can see them better
[12:31] <Lost> I get this error when I try to install E: Unable to locate package ps3mediaserver
[12:31] <kostkon> !find ps3mediaserver
[12:31] <euryale> ah. but there is a notification on the icon of xchat in the unity launcher "1" .
[12:31] <jskid> vm shows need some kernel modul update,but when i  click install,it shows error.
[12:31] <euryale> how do i do it?
[12:31] <jskid> HOW?
[12:32] <jskid> can anybody help me ?
[12:32] <k1l_> Lost: the maintainer form that 3rd party repo doesnt habe 14.04 packages so far. you need to talk t him
[12:32] <one23> 14.04 here
[12:32] <BW^-> does ubuntu automatically launch wpa_supplicant all the time?
[12:32] <BW^-> it's incredibly difficult to kill it off!
[12:33] <Lost> is there a way to install the previous versions package?
[12:33] <k1l_> Lost: you can compile yourself. read the help page i gave you
[12:35] <master> hhh
[12:36] <master> have Chinese
[12:36] <master> ?
[12:36] <ice9> why there is no amd64 iso cd here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/trusty/release/
[12:36] <MonkeyDust> Lost  http://www.ps3mediaserver.org/forum/viewforum.php?f=6
[12:36] <kostkon> !cn | Guest85019
[12:37] <BW^-> is there any gentler way to disable the wpa_supplicant service than by removing /usr/share/dbus-1/system-services/fi.epitest.hostap.WPASupplicant.service ??
[12:37] <MonkeyDust> ice9  rephrase: "where can i get the amd64 iso"
[12:38] <ice9> MonkeyDust: actually I need it's md5sum so it should be in the url I posted but it's not there
[12:38] <phao> ohhh =) 14.04 is out =D
[12:39] <phao> I guess everyone here already knew =D
[12:39] <Lost> MonkeyDust That was actually where I was reading from. Guess i'll have to register there and ask for the update.
[12:39] <matt_> hi, how can i find out if a harddisk is encrypted?
[12:40] <gareppa> if you can't read it from a live cd, it's encrypted
[12:40] <Guest56945> ok thx
[12:40] <phao> Some time ago, someone in here told me to wait for ubuntu 14.04 in order to make use of my nvidia video card, which has that optimus technology. It seems that previous to 14.04, the drivers available couldn't deal with it.
[12:41] <phao> He told me that by installing the suggested drivers, I could get an error such that the system wouldn't start-up anymore (I don't remember the details).
[12:41] <phao> Any guide, now, on how to install the video driver for my nvidia card?
[12:41] <gareppa> if it's optimus you have o use bumblebee, not the official drivers
[12:41] <kostkon> BW^-, why does it bother you so much
[12:42] <ice9> what's the md5sum for the amd64 iso?
[12:42] <gareppa> just install bumblebee, it will download the appropriate drivers for your card
[12:42] <phao> gareppa, Ok.
[12:42] <phao> That's all?
[12:42] <gareppa> if you just use nvidia drivers, your nvidia card will be on ALL THE TIME, with overheat and reduced battery life
[12:42] <MonkeyDust> ice9  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuHashes#A14.04_LTS
[12:42] <gareppa> i tried that with 13.10
[12:42] <phao> gareppa, which is my current situation.
[12:42] <k1l_> !hashes | ice9
[12:43] <DumperZ> hello all
[12:43] <phao> gareppa, I guess.
[12:43] <gareppa> bumblebee is awesome, you just have to install it and it autoconfigures itself
[12:43] <DumperZ> i would like to find the sources of the graphic installer of ubuntu
[12:43] <phao> gareppa, ok. thanks!
[12:43] <gareppa> ^ì
[12:43] <gareppa> ^^
[12:43] <Greylocks> Is it possible to change the icons on the launcher, and if so how?
[12:43] <phao> hehe
[12:44] <phao> ^ì is the ^^ for a samurai who has a cut in his eye.
[12:44] <gareppa> lol
[12:44] <phao> ø.O
[12:44] <Guest56945> whats the best way to encrypt my disk after ubuntu has been installed?
[12:44] <DumperZ> i think i found http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu/pool/main/
[12:44] <phao> gareppa, that's a "puzzled samurai"
[12:44] <DumperZ> but i need to know the name of the installer files
[12:44] <phao> or better, a "wtf samurai"
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> Guest56945  stert here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[12:45] <MonkeyDust> start*
[12:45] <kristenbb> in 14.04, how to set the close button to the right ? I tried [gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.wm.preferences button-layout "menu:minimize,maximize,close"] and  [gconftool -s /apps/metacity/general/button_layout -t string menu:minimize,maximize,close], but none worked
[12:46] <BiFi> I've got a problem with 14.04 on a machine with an ATI Radeon HD 7750. With the opensource drivers it shows garbled desktop where the pointer acts normally. With the proprietary drivers I don't even get to the desktop after logging in. Picture available here: http://bifi.msxnet.org/temp/14.04-login.jpg
[12:46] <yellabs> hi there ,
[12:47] <BiFi> I had nog problems with 13.10
[12:47] <BiFi> nog=no
[12:47] <Guest38882> HELLO
[12:47] <k1l_> kristenbb: i showed you the way. is the theme you are using blocking that?
[12:47] <yellabs> is there a way to boot in guest session only, for demonstrations purposes
[12:47] <k1l_> kristenbb: did you relogin?
[12:47] <kuku> hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?
[12:47] <k1l_> kristenbb: is one of your previous false ways now blocking?
[12:47] <kristenbb> k1l_: i did all you said, it's not working, i relogged and everything. I think there's something wrong with 14.04
[12:47] <kuku3413> hi, my wwan card discnnects without a reason ; does anyone know what the modem command +CIEV: 2,3 means ?
[12:47] <yellabs> so at boot autologin into guest session
[12:48] <BW^-> kostkon:  i want to connect to a wifi network the "clean" way. how do?
[12:48] <BW^-> what is the recommended way to connect to a password-protected WPA network in Ubuntu?
[12:48] <k1l_> hmm
[12:48] <BW^-> would it be by configuring wpa_supplicant to connect to it, as it's running easily anyhow?
[12:48] <kostkon> DumperZ, apt-get source ubiquity   or if you mean the just the gui   apt-get source ubiquity-frontend-gtk    list of files here  http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/ubiquity/filelist  and  here http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/i386/ubiquity-frontend-gtk/filelist for example
[12:49] <k1l_> BW^-: just use network manager
[12:49] <kristenbb> k1l_: I think it's got to do with the new unity decorations they added for 14.04, it broke the ability to do that. Any way I could still be able to do what I want with 14.04, or do I need to go back to 13.10 ?
[12:49] <k1l_> BW^-: the icon in the systray
[12:49] <kostkon> BW^-, what k1l_ said
[12:50] <DumperZ> kostkon thanks a lot, yes it is exactly what i need , especially the install script
[12:50] <kostkon> DumperZ, np
[12:50] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  would you go back to an earlier release, simply because the close button is on the wrong side?
[12:51] <BW^-> k1l_: the one wih two computers on it, and it has a menu option leading to a window saying "Network Connections"?
[12:51] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: yes, this is very inconvenient for me
[12:52] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  you can also get familiar with the new position of the close button
[12:52] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: and I'm sure I'm not the only one. Not to mention all those XP users (the xp support just ended) that will want to go to ubuntu, just to find out that the close button is not where it's supposed to be
[12:53] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: that's not how ergonomy is supposed to work, the software should adapt to the user, or give the option to do as the user wants, not the opposite
[12:54] <k1l_> kristenbb: then file a bug, help the maintainers to solve the problem.
[12:54] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: why do you think the windows 8 didnt work that well ? just because microsoft just made the same assumptions about users adapting to new software
[12:54] <k1l_> !bug | kristenbb
[12:55] <k1l_> kristenbb: so help the community instead of demanding stuff and others to do the work
[12:56] <kristenbb> I am helping, by saying that this is wrong
[12:56] <k1l_> BW^-: yes, the network thingy. click on it and you will see the settings. its quite easx
[12:56] <k1l_> kristenbb: then stop saying. or help and file a bug. your acall
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> kristenbb  yes, you're entitled to that opinion
[12:57] <euryale> how do i download a package in the terminal including it's dependencies?
[12:57] <kristenbb> MonkeyDust: usually when there are different opinions about a user experience, the best way to answer that is to give the user the option to choose. That's how it was in ubuntu 13.10, 12.04, and all the others before, but now this feature is broken.
[12:57] <euryale> is this right: sudo apt-get -d packagename
[12:57] <euryale> is this right: sudo apt-get -d download packagename
[12:58] <k1l_> kristenbb: did you file a bug and help the maintainer?
[12:58] <BW^-> k1l_,kostkon: so the network manager tool is supposed to work out of the box, or needs some daemon running without saying so?
[12:58] <k1l_> BW^-: that works out of the box. except there are driver issues with the wifi card
[12:58] <MonkeyDust> euryale  i guess it's either   sudo apt-get download foo *or* sudo apt-get -d install foo
[12:59] <ceca> hello everyone, gimp pisses me off..the page I opened a file goes up out of the display. only tool windows appear, and I cant make the main file window come back
[12:59] <euryale> i tried this in ubuntu restricted extras, but downloaded only a few kb
[13:00] <euryale> the file is about 70mb
[13:01] <ceca> I think it happens when I switch windows by alt+tab
[13:05] <kristenbb> k1l_: it seems difficult to create a bug report. I have created a launchpad account, what now ?
[13:06] <Franky333> Hello, i have a question about the installation of Ubuntu 14.04. It works well but the download of the additional packets (e.g. language) is very slow (approx. 30kB/s). Is it possible to change the download mirror usednin the installation?
[13:06] <k1l_> !bug | kristenbb
[13:06] <kristenbb> k1l_: this page is quite long, I don't understand it all
[13:07] <OerHeks> Franky333, sure, you can change the mirror in software sources, but the servers are smokin' because of the release
 kristenbb: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.
[13:07] <kostkon> Franky333, open your updater, click on settings
[13:07] <kristenbb> k1l_: it mostly seems to be talking about crashes and so on, but in my case,  what am I supposed to do ?
[13:07] <k1l_> the bots message mentiones the command
[13:08] <k1l_> use that command, that collects data and opens the launchpad site. there you say what is not working
[13:09] <Franky333> I already tried that but it did not change the mirror uswd during installation. installing something in the live system using apt-get is fast as usual.
[13:09] <Franky333> *used
[13:10] <sixwheeledbeast> hey all, it's busy here. I have just updated to 14.04 and my gnome-panel is missing from both my flashback DM options. Any ideas why this has happened and/or how to fix?
[13:11] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after resume, so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[13:12] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[13:13] <szymon_h> @ovrflow0x what graphic drivers are you using?
[13:13] <ovrflw0x> szymon_h, open source radeon driver
[13:14] <ovrflw0x> i've got "radeon.dpm=1" as kernel param for power management could it be the reason? szymon_h
[13:14] <MonkeyDust> szymon_h  it's easier to read, if you drop the @ and use tab
[13:15] <szymon_h> overflw0x check the logs, most likely it's radeon drivers, had such issues with multiple cards
[13:16] <szymon_h> ovrflw0x do you experience the same issue without dpm?
[13:16] <szymon_h> ovrflw0x I had trouble with radeon drivers many many times
[13:18] <balazs> hi. Does anyone know of a way to do autocomplete in Ubuntu not just on the command line, but like when composing an email in Google Mail ? Something similar to what cellphones do.
[13:18] <jutta> hi guys, I need help with the setup of an open-vpn client. I got the config files in ~/.openvpn, including key and certs, and the file server.firma.conf. its contents are: http://pastebin.com/0WsYkY8Z when I try to connect via networkmanager, I get the time-out error, if I try in the terminal via "openvpn --config server.firma.conf", I get this: http://pastebin.com/3bf7Z0xe. What could I do now?
[13:18] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: Try sudo 'dpkg-reconfigure gnome-panel' once.
[13:20] <newb_ubuntu> How do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.
[13:20] <ovrflw0x> szymon_h, is providing radeon.dpm=1 necessary? or should i remove it as ubuntu 14.04 takes care of it byitself?
[13:20] <newb_ubuntu> How do I manually set a 1600x900 display resolution ?
[13:21] <newb_ubuntu> thanks a lot for the support :)
[13:22] <BiFi> I may have found a bug in the radeonhd driver, but I can't post the bug on the ubuntu machine as I can't read through the garbled screen
[13:23] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: ok thanks, currently in unity as flashback is unusable, I can't even open a terminal with the keyboard shortcut . so will have to switch back to DM in a minute to check if that works
[13:33] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: nope still missing, would I need to reboot?
[13:34] <hunter_user> t
[13:34] <newb_ubuntu> How do I manually set a 1600x900 display resolution ?
[13:35] <AndroUser> Hello, I have just installed Ubuntu 14.04, but I can't see Wifi option under my network menu
[13:35] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: edit your xorg.conf or create an xorg.conf
[13:35] <sixwheeledbeast> the only difference is now the windows have close on the right
[13:36] <Akishona> hi ! i just upgraded from 1204lts to 14lts
[13:36] <Akishona> this message appeared when i tried to remvove the package mentioned in the error message: The "openjdk-7-jre" package could not be marked for installation or upgrade:
[13:37] <Akishona> using muon
[13:37] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: No. reboot shouldn't be nessesary. You could try to add a new user for a test once and see whether the desktop seetings are working with that test account. If yes, you should clean some settings on your personal account.
[13:37] <sixwheeledbeast> ok thanks I will look at that.
[13:38] <MktWizard108> \#lubuntu
[13:39] <MktWizard108> join /#lubuntu
[13:39] <AndroUser> Anyone knows how to get Wifi working in Ubuntu 14.04?, it's nowhere in networking menu
[13:39] <newb_ubuntu> dioioib: Please let me know did I create xorg correctly ? I copy from some website and edit but I should I edit on the "Section "Device" http://pastebin.com/Rzf0GiFU
[13:40] <usr13> AndroUser: You probably do not have it defined in the network-manager, or, the driver has not been loaded. What does iwconfig say about it?
[13:40] <usr13> AndroUser: iwconfig |grep ireless
[13:40] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: looks ok I don't see any references to your display adapters though.
[13:41] <usr13> AndroUser: New insntall, or upgrade from 12.04? Or.....?
[13:41] <AndroUser> Usr13: new installation
[13:41] <IEEE> I'm trying to install the latest catalyst driver after updating to 14.04. It fails saying it needs the system to have 'kernel headers for 3.7 release' Does it really need that?
[13:41] <AndroUser> It says, eth0 no wireless extension
[13:41] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: you could also try the ctv method listed in this link at the bottom http://mac.linux.be/content/setting-xorgconf-manually-xrandr
[13:43] <usr13> AndroUser: Any others?  (Besides eth0?)
[13:44] <usr13> AndroUser: (Scroll up a little)... Shift-PageUp
[13:44] <AndroUser> Ya, it's, lo no wireless extensions.
[13:44] <newb_ubuntu> dioioib: Getting error warning: output LVDS not found; ignoring
[13:45] <AndroUser> usr13: sorry I'm on mobile, already solved?
[13:45] <dioioib> what version of ubuntu are you running?
[13:45] <usr13> AndroUser: Ok, good.
[13:46] <NRF19> Hey, I'm having issues installing Ubuntu 12.04 via DVD - I manage the install to a clean formatted drive but when it comes to the reboot my PC is stuck on verifying dmi pool data, I've tried a few times to no avail, also tried using boot repair which claims it's been successfully but same error, hdd is set as primary boot device
[13:46] <usr13> AndroUser: You probably just need to plug into a wired internet connection and do updates.
[13:46] <NRF19> Error is Disc Boot failure
[13:46] <jutta> hi guys, I need help with the setup of an open-vpn client. I got the config files in ~/.openvpn, including key and certs, and the file server.firma.conf. its contents are: http://pastebin.com/0WsYkY8Z when I try to connect via networkmanager, I get the time-out error, if I try in the terminal via "openvpn --config server.firma.conf", I get this: http://pastebin.com/3bf7Z0xe. What could I do now?
[13:46] <usr13> AndroUser: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:47] <AndroUser> Ok, let me try, thanks for prompt replies
[13:47] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: ok so the monitor does not have low voltage differential signaling? how is it connected DIV or VGA cables?
[13:47] <NRF19> Tried two harddrive and getting same error also
[13:48] <dw1> jutta: best ask in #openvpn
[13:48] <ghghgh> hi guys
[13:49] <ghghgh> how are you going all?
[13:49] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: can I see your xorg again my irc crashed
[13:49] <ghghgh> it happens when
[13:50] <NRF19> Any tips as to what to try next?
[13:52] <ichat> in lubuntu (lxde)  i found a really strange 'translation"  for ignore capitalisation in file names,  seen in this image.. http://nl.tinypic.com/r/33p6az6/8  ...   now ive been looking at google for the past ten minutes but havn't fould how to fix it and where to send a better translation
[13:52] <dw1> NRF19: maybe try http://google.com/search?q=ubuntu+disc+boot+failure+boot-repair
[13:54] <dw1> NRF19: maybe boot-repair to another partition or somethin :)
[13:57] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: thanks, the test account is working correctly. How to go about fixing my account.
[13:57] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[14:00] <Guest91386> so is something up with the proprietary driver for amd cards on 14.04?
[14:01] <IEEE> I'm having problems too
[14:01] <monkeynaut> when i get a new IM in Pidgin, is there a way to make the launcher wiggle until I click on it?   it only wiggles for a second and i end up not seeing it if i leave my desk
[14:01] <Guest91386> yeah, i follow the directions on their wiki, for saucy anyway, and after a reboot i get a black screen with some window
[14:02] <Luyin> monkeynaut: which DE are you using? unity?
[14:02] <monkeynaut> Luyin: yes
[14:02] <IEEE> I made a thread on ubuntuforums but no replies yet
[14:02] <Luyin> monkeynaut: the indicator-plugin should light up when you receive a message
[14:02] <Guest91386> what's the thread?
[14:03] <IEEE> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218020&p=12993440#post12993440
[14:03] <monkeynaut> Luyin: up by the clock, correct?
[14:03] <Luyin> monkeynaut: yes
[14:04] <Guest91386> yeah, it's annoying that the 14.3 drivers have a built option for trusty, but the system breaks on reboot
[14:04] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[14:05] <newb_ubuntu> <dioioib : it doesn't have xorg , I just wanted to create it and you direct me the link
[14:06] <PsychoLoLiTa> hi
[14:06] <ovrflw0x> hey PsychoLoLiTa are you female?
[14:07] <PsychoLoLiTa> f off
[14:07] <k1l_> ovrflw0x: this is not a dating channel. the gender doesnt matter at all.
[14:07] <PsychoLoLiTa> i want somebody to help on my ubuntu
[14:07] <Guest91386> seriously, asking people their gender?
[14:07] <k1l_> PsychoLoLiTa: please watch your language in here. no need to get rude. thanks
[14:08] <PsychoLoLiTa> okey :P
[14:08] <newb_ubuntu> dioioib : it doesn't have xorg , I just wanted to create it and you direct me the link
[14:08] <Mehmet_22ist> slm
[14:08] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: Well easiest way is to rename you existing /home folder on in console mode to /home/yourname-old and create a new /home/yourname account. Otherwise do <ctrl>h to see the hiden folders and delete .gnome2 .gconf maybe .config/dconf for a start
[14:09] <sasuke> hi guys!..
[14:10] <ovrflw0x> hey sasuke
[14:10] <ovrflw0x> what is the problem?
[14:10] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: I have tried --recursive-reset and deleting .gconf .gnome2 and rebooting before I asked on here.
[14:10] <PsychoLoLiTa> i need help on ubuntu plz
[14:10] <k1l_> !ask | PsychoLoLiTa
[14:10] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, just say what your problem is
[14:10] <sasuke> ovrflw0x, i just created a partition, i was unable to find the uuid of that
[14:10] <ovrflw0x> sasuke, type "blkid"
[14:11] <MonkeyDust> sasuke  lsblk or sudo blkid
[14:11] <sasuke> can anyone tell me how can i get that. I use "sudo blkid" but its only showing for "/ & swap" partitions
[14:11] <MrSw3d3n> someone tried install 14.04 in virtualbox?
[14:11] <aligator> does anyone know a good external usb wifi dongle that is compatible with ubuntu and is capable with the aircrack-ng suite, specifically, it is capable of raw packet injection
[14:11] <sasuke> not for the newly created partition
[14:12] <PsychoLoLiTa> i want to put in my ubuntu this card
[14:12] <NightTrojan> hi
[14:12] <Senor> how do I list all availables host in my network for my host?
[14:12] <sasuke> sasuke@SL410:~$ sudo blkid
[14:12] <sasuke> /dev/sda1: UUID="b11b1745-a401-4877-b5df-8a6ddabe4841" TYPE="ext4"
[14:12] <sasuke> /dev/sda5: UUID="09b1be91-d0f0-41d2-b86e-5452ca9640fe" TYPE="swap"
[14:12] <sasuke> sasuke@SL410:~$ sudo lsblk
[14:12] <PsychoLoLiTa> Nvidia GeForce GTX660M 2GB
[14:12] <PsychoLoLiTa> you know heow?
[14:12] <PsychoLoLiTa> how&
[14:12] <Guest91386> what do you mean PsychoLoLiTa ?
[14:12] <k1l_> sasuke: run a "sudo fdisk -l" (small L at the end) and put it into a pastebin
[14:13] <PsychoLoLiTa> i dont have graphic driver
[14:13] <sasuke> ok
[14:13] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, are you asking if it's possible to use the card with ubuntu, or asking how to install the card in your system?
[14:13] <NightTrojan> everyone got ubuntu 14.04?
[14:13] <k1l_> PsychoLoLiTa: put it into the pc and then boot. the free driver should work
[14:13] <PsychoLoLiTa> to install
[14:13] <NightTrojan> anyone got ubuntu 14.04?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> NightTrojan  a lot of people, better ask your real question
[14:14] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, you just pop the card into a pci-e slot
[14:14] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, you can easily google how to do it
[14:14] <NightTrojan> @MonkeyDust do you like ubuntu 14.04?
[14:15] <PsychoLoLiTa> i google it but i dont do it nothing
[14:15] <Ca11um> On a Ubnutu directory layout, where would be the most suitable place for all-user data? On Windows I'd make "C:\Folder\", on Ubuntu would it just be '/folder', or is there a more suitable location?
[14:15] <Ca11um> Ubuntu*
[14:15] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, then you're not googling right. it is literally one of the easiest things to do
[14:15] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> NightTrojan  this is the support channel, better ask that in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:15] <sasuke> k1l_, http://pastebin.com/iBhCaeUE
[14:15] <Hieberrr> I tried installing Gnome 3 on 14.4 and it won't show up on the login screen. I'm not sure what to do.
[14:15] <k1l_> PsychoLoLiTa: its supported. just build it into your hardware and then boot ubuntu
[14:15] <Hieberrr> 14.04*
[14:15] <NightTrojan> ahh ok thanks MonkeyDust
[14:15] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: This would be a 'tutorial' for a new user account. https://askubuntu.com/questions/43584/how-to-reset-main-user-account/43589#43589
[14:15] <k1l_> PsychoLoLiTa: for hardware questions better ask in #hardware
[14:16] <PsychoLoLiTa> ok
[14:16] <ovrflw0x> bye PsychoLoLiTa
[14:16] <k1l_> sasuke: so sda3?
[14:16] <Guest91386> PsychoLoLiTa, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPM7PKdk7q0
[14:16] <sasuke> yes
[14:17] <euryale> trying to download wine and its dependencies but just cant get to work, i used this command: sudo apt-get -d download wine
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> euryale  drop the -d
[14:18] <euryale> i only get a kb of file. but when i do apt-get wine, it lists all dependencies.
[14:18] <k1l_> sasuke: is there something on sda3 or can you format that again?
[14:18] <euryale> @MonkeyDust. I wanted to download the dependencies too.
[14:18] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: great thanks, bookmarked.
[14:19] <niko__> login
[14:19] <MonkeyDust> euryale  i guess they come, when you install the deb
[14:19] <ovrflw0x> computer failed to start after SUSPEND so i've got a "internal error" report, which i don't want to send, therefore, can anyone tell me why ubuntu failed to resume after suspend? i can provide all the information necessary!
[14:19] <sasuke> k1l_, no, its just created.. but i didnt give the partition type with ext4. i'll try now
[14:19] <euryale> it would not be good for offline install, it will fetch.
[14:20] <euryale> i can type the packages but there's about hundreds of it lol.
[14:20] <Hieberrr> Sort of a noob question, but can anyone help me install Gnome?
[14:21] <Guest91386> Hieberrr, are you on a fresh install of ubuntu?
[14:21] <Hieberrr> Guest91386: Yeah, I just installed Ubuntu 14.04
[14:21] <k1l_> Hieberrr: apt-get install gnome-shell
[14:21] <k1l_> Hieberrr: you mean gnome3 (aka gnome shell), right?
[14:22] <Hieberrr> k1l_: yeah
[14:22] <Hieberrr> k1l_: for some reason after I install it, it's not an option on my login screen
[14:23] <k1l_> Hieberrr: are you sure?
[14:23] <Hieberrr> Yeah
[14:23] <Hieberrr> I'll try it again
[14:24] <llutz> !offline | euryale:
[14:24] <snufft> are there any Americans in here who wouldn't mind answering an off topic question via pm or something? I just need to know the difference/purpose of a 5 digit and a 4 digit zip code :P
[14:24] <k1l_> snufft: better ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:24] <MonkeyDust> snufft  type /j #ubuntu-offtopic and ask there
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> k1l_  was faster
[14:25] <snufft> k1l_, MonkeyDust cheers! :D
[14:25] <sasuke> k1l_, can you  give the command for specifing partition type for the new partition
[14:26] <k1l_> sasuke: why dont you just use gparted, the one with the gui?
[14:26] <sasuke> k1l_, gui is good, but i want to learn things ... so trying with cmd
[14:27] <sasuke> thanks , no issues i will with that if i didnt find
[14:27] <k1l_> sasuke: i think sda3 is way too small anyway. with gparted you will have a better view of the partition scheme
[14:28] <ovrflw0x> do i need "RADEON.DPM=1" as kernel parameter OR is it handled by Ubuntu 14.04 by default?
[14:29] <Guest91386> ovrflw0x, are you trying to install the proprietary driver? i've been having issues with it
[14:30] <ovrflw0x> Guest91386, "radeon.dpm=1" itself suggests that it is OPEN SOURCE driver
[14:30] <kroson> ovrflw0x: what-s your graphics card_
[14:30] <kroson> ?
[14:30] <ovrflw0x> kroson, Radeon HD5650
[14:30] <Guest91386> blarg, just trying to figure out why the hell the proprietary driver seems to mess up on 14.04
[14:30] <ovrflw0x> kroson, that's discrete and integrated is intel i915 on laptop
[14:30] <kroson> ovrflw0x: should be enabled by default
[14:30] <ovrflw0x> kroson, atm i'm using discrete
[14:30] <newb_ubuntu> dioioib: Please let me know did I create xorg correctly ? I copy from some website and edit but I should I edit on the "Section "Device" http://pastebin.com/Rzf0GiFU
[14:31] <MrSw3d3n> whanna dual-boot 14.04 with W8 (oem installation on thinkpad x1), but 140.04 doesnt recognise te other os...
[14:31] <chriys> Where is located the alias config file ?
[14:31] <ovrflw0x> kroson, how can i verify that
[14:31] <kroson> Guest91386: what do you mean? works fine in my PC
[14:31] <chriys> Where is located the alias config file ?
[14:32] <kroson> ovrflw0x: cat /sys/kernel/debug/dri/64/radeon_pm_info
[14:32] <wizonesolutions> partitioning an external hard drive is no different than a regular one, right? probably actually a bit simpler if not booting anything. one can use GParted or similar?
[14:33] <ovrflw0x> kroson, i only have i915 files under 64 dir
[14:34] <kroson> ovrflw0x: that command needs to be done as root I think
[14:34] <chriys> Hi all where is located the alias config file ?
[14:34] <kroson> How can you tell that you are running the discrete AMD card?
[14:34] <Guest11587> how to linux control the memory
[14:34] <Guest11587> how
[14:34] <dioioib> newb_ubuntu: there is a lot missing from your xorg everything related to your video card and the display ports is not there. Did you run xrandr -q?
[14:34] <ovrflw0x> kroson, uvd    vclk: 0 dclk: 0 power level 0    sclk: 10000 mclk: 15000 vddc: 900 vddci: 0 <-- does that mean radeon.dm=1 is ON?
[14:35] <kroson> ovrflw0x: yes :)
[14:35] <chriys> Hi all where is located the alias config file ?
[14:35] <ovrflw0x> kroson, but i had radeon.dpm=1 added as command line
[14:35] <ovrflw0x> kroson, what should i check after removing radeon.dpm=1?
[14:36] <ovrflw0x> how to know if dpm=1 is on or not?
[14:36] <kroson> ovrflw0x: The same thing
[14:36] <Guest11587> the memory  control  in linux
[14:36] <ovrflw0x> kroson, is there anything particular i should look for under radeon_pm_info
[14:36] <llutz> chriys: personal ~/.bashrc ~/.bash_aliases, systemwide /etc/...
[14:37] <chriys> llutz: thanks let met try that
[14:37] <johndropper> Hello
[14:37] <aligator> hi
[14:37] <kroson> ovrflw0x: http://askubuntu.com/questions/324733/how-to-enable-the-radeon-dynamic-power-management-feature
[14:37] <johndropper> I needed up windows 8 last night
[14:38] <kroson> look at the first answer
[14:38] <chriys> llutz: is this the file where we add our alias?
[14:38] <johndropper> Messed
[14:38] <johndropper> I accidentally erased it while installing Ubuntu I hit the button and after what I did I pulled the battery after five seconds
[14:38] <johndropper> Now I get a message saying things can't be located
[14:38] <llutz> chriys: use either ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_aliases
[14:38] <NightTrojan> don't get windows 8 dude
[14:39] <johndropper> I already have windows eight I was trying to install ubuntu alongside Windows 8
[14:39] <PsychoLoLiTa> somebody to help me to install my nvidia graphic card?
[14:39] <PsychoLoLiTa> iam new user ion ubuntu
[14:39] <chriys> llutz: the reason why I want that path it's because I install composer globally but I don't remember the path of composer.phar
[14:40] <chriys> the place I put it
[14:40] <ovrflw0x> ok kroson
[14:40] <llutz> chriys: find / -name  composer.phar
[14:40] <kroson> ovrflw0x: that kind of output means you have dpm activated. If dpm wasnt activated, would be different output
[14:40] <NightTrojan> Anyone know the minimum ram for ubuntu?
[14:41] <ovrflw0x> kroson, so DPM was enabled by default and i also added kernel.dpm=1 is that why ubuntu "hanged" after resuming from suspend?
[14:41] <testing1209347> when will do-release-upgrade work for 12.04 -> 14.04 ?
[14:41] <chriys> llutz: it does nothing
[14:42] <Slart> NightTrojan: depends on what you're going to run.. for unity and such I would say something like 1gb.. don't know the official number though
[14:42] <llutz> chriys: means, the file doesn't exist
[14:42] <ovrflw0x> kroson, ?
[14:42] <chriys> this is weird I used it 3 days ago
[14:42] <kupo_> where to get 14.04 PPA's?
[14:43] <NightTrojan> @Slart im running 1gb, a bit slow upgrading to 2gb
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> testing1209347  it works with   -d   but it takes hours
[14:43] <llutz> chriys: find / -iname '*composer*'
[14:43] <kroson> ovrflw0x: I dont think so. Ubuntu hanged after resuming from suspend for different reason, probably. But remove that option, if you dont need it
[14:43] <Slart> NightTrojan: have you considered something a bit lighter? lubuntu perhaps?
[14:43] <Hell-o> nope
[14:43] <ovrflw0x> kroson, can you tell why ubuntu failed to start after suspend?
[14:44] <newb_ubuntu> How do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.
[14:44] <ovrflw0x> i can give you the details
[14:44] <ovrflw0x> i've the report
[14:44] <Hell-o> how
[14:44] <testing1209347> MonkeyDust: even with -d it will be the actual release from the 17th then?
[14:44] <kroson> ovrflw0x: Im not sure. There can be many causes. Just pastebin and someone might help
[14:44] <dw1> johndropper: ouch.. reinstall/restore win8 then install ubuntu :-/  if you have important files... well they might be lost if the partition is gone
[14:44] <Slart> NightTrojan: the basic system doesn't use much memory.. it's the gui stuff that matters most, in my experience.. just changing from gnome to something like XFCE can make a big difference
[14:45] <minimec> kupo_: The maintainer of the ppa has to make a package available for the 14.04 distro. So doing apt add-repository ppa will do. If it is not working correctly, you can try to modify the repo entry manually and change trusty to saucy for the repo.
[14:45] <MonkeyDust> testing1209347  i did it that way, works like a charm
[14:45] <ovrflw0x> kroson, i can't copy the report
[14:45] <one23> ive installed 14.04, VLCSub not working anymore
[14:45] <ovrflw0x> kroson, it is asking me if i want to send it or not
[14:45] <testing1209347> MonkeyDust: cool beans thx
[14:46] <MonkeyDust> testing1209347  but i repeat, it takes up to 2 hours and you must stay present, to confirm some changes
[14:46] <kroson> ovrflw0x: whats your graphics card and laptop model
[14:47] <ovrflw0x> kroson, Envy14 hp notebook, graphics card - discrete Radon HD5650 and intel integrated i915
[14:47] <ovrflw0x> 2010 model Kromaz
[14:47] <ovrflw0x> kroson, ^^^^
[14:47] <chucky> has anyone had issues with software center on 1404
[14:47] <gast__1> hi
[14:48] <Slart> chucky: yes
[14:48] <MonkeyDust> chucky  what kind of issues?
[14:48] <kroson> ovrflw0x: I dont know, maybe theres some sort of problem with dual graphics AMD plus Intel on that machine. Maybe googling could help
[14:48] <ovrflw0x> Kroson it deosn't happen always only sometimes
[14:48] <ovrflw0x> i've experienced it only 1 time
[14:48] <chucky> Slart: when trying to install software which requires popup during install I get a grey screen and everthing freezes with no popup
[14:49] <kroson> very weird. Maybe it only suspends with one, integrated or discrete
[14:49] <gast__1> how can I configure the unity panel to show the option to reboot?
[14:49] <newb_ubuntu> how do I view fan speed ?
[14:49] <ovrflw0x> kroson, integrated is OFF i'm only using Discrete radeon card
[14:49] <Slart> chucky: same thing here.. it just hangs, probably waiting for that popup to finish, until you kill the process
[14:49] <Slart> chucky: installing the offending package in a regular terminal worked for me
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> gast__1  !ccsm has a lot of tweaks, maybe it's one of them
[14:50] <chucky> apt-get appears to be only fix
[14:50] <gast__1> !ccsm
[14:50] <kroson> ovrflw0x: I know. I mean that it might only suspend correctly with one but not the other
[14:51] <ovrflw0x> kroson, to verfiy that what info do you need?
[14:51] <ovrflw0x> verify*
[14:51] <one23> newb_ubuntu: with psensor
[14:52] <kroson> Im not really into that, sorry. I think you should repost your question here and see if anyone comes with an idea
[14:52] <ovrflw0x> kroson, it says "Problem Type - Kernel Oops"
[14:52] <one23> 14.04, VLSub not working anymore?
[14:52] <sidgwick> Hi, I'm learning Bittorrent protocol now. I sent handshake to peers, but I got nothing, why? what the response look like?
[14:53] <MonkeyDust> one23  try   sudo apt-get install --reinstall vlc-plugin-vlsub
[14:53] <NightTrojan> @Slart it Gnome looks so good, i'd rather buy more ram than change to xfce
[14:54] <Slart> NightTrojan: ram is pretty cheap.. I would do the same in your position
[14:54] <NightTrojan> @Slart i've considered using lubuntu, tryed the 'live' version, but can't seem to get wifi working
[14:55] <RealKillaz> Hi there
[14:55] <RealKillaz> Is there a channel specially for the server?
[14:55] <carlhu> q
[14:55] <carlhu> q
[14:55] <carlhu> quit
[14:55] <MonkeyDust> RealKillaz  #ubuntu-server
[14:55] <aligator> does an external usb wifi dongle work the same as an internal wifi card? when i type "ifconfig" or "iwconfig" will it appear as if inside?
[14:56] <RealKillaz> thank you MonkeyDust
[14:57] <newb_ubuntu> one23 thanks
[14:57] <Raider_> does anyone knows how to make "Audigy FX" to work in ubuntu ?
[14:57] <newb_ubuntu> Anyone know how to manually set the display setting ? to 1600x900 ?
[14:57] <minimec> RealKillaz: #ubuntu-server --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> !find audigy
[14:58] <jjavaholic> i'm looking for an app that can bulk xmp tag my images?
[14:58] <Slart> aligator: I think so... just tried it here with an old d-link usb wifi stick
[14:58] <Raider_> Audigy FX sorry but this  sound card is based on realtek chipset and sound as default in ubuntu is just noise
[14:58] <Slart> aligator: I got a wlan0 interface and everything seems to be working as far as I can tell
[14:59] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?
[14:59] <aligator> Slart: thank you very much
[14:59] <Raider_> every single time i try ubuntu something doesnt work
[15:00] <armin> Raider_: get a mac. *runsforcover*
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> armin  and what is audigy fx?
[15:01] <Raider_> audigy fx need internal PCI-PCIE driver to work i think
[15:01] <DestinyAwaits> The site is loading pretty good now but on browser its not
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> you think
[15:01] <Slart> Raider_: on a similar note.. everytime I try to use anything made by creative I run into problems.. linux or windows doesn't matter =/
[15:01] <armin> i'm just surprised to see we still have to deal with tearing under X
[15:01] <Nukien> Anyone here having trouble with 14.04 and php5/php5-fpm/mcrypt ? "php --ri mcrypt" shows it enabled, but phpinfo() doesn't, only showing the authors. roundcube can't log in, and phpmyadmin claims it's not enabled.
[15:01] <DestinyAwaits> the /etc/resolv.conf has one entry
[15:01] <DestinyAwaits> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[15:01] <DestinyAwaits> is it correct??
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> Raider_  and what is it supposed to do?
[15:02] <armin> one should think that should finally not be an issue anymore
[15:02] <one23> MonkeyDust it didnt work
[15:02] <Raider_> oh well i stick to wiindows and wait another 5 years maybe then it will work properly
[15:02] <MonkeyDust> one23  what didnt work?
 sound card should play sounds not static
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Raider_  other things don't work in windows, or in mac, that happens
[15:03] <MonkeyDust> Raider_  ah, ok, so the sound card
[15:04] <Raider_> everything works in windows for my whole life
[15:04] <one23> MonkeyDust VLSub reinstalled
[15:04] <Raider_> not including broken hardware
[15:04] <NightTrojan> I'm thinking of building a dedicated ubuntu machine, i need help with the build
[15:05] <MonkeyDust> one23  maybe try reinstalling vlc, then
[15:06] <Raider_> ok now how do i remove grub ?
[15:07] <Raider_> i know how but reinstalling windows  takes like 2 hours
[15:07] <Slart> MonkeyDust: there's a warning about vlsub not working with vlc 2.1.0 because of some lua problem.. what version of vlc are you using?
[15:07] <minimec> NightTrojan: I would take some motherboard with an intel chipset and some i5/7 CPU. If you need a dedicated GPU, I would tend to Nvidia.
[15:08] <Slart> Raider_: you can restore the boot sector with a windows install/repair cd I think.. you might be able to get better help in something like ##windows
[15:08] <MonkeyDust> Slart  address one23 , s/he's the one with the vlsub issue
[15:09] <Slart> MonkeyDust: ah.. sorry bout that
[15:09] <Slart> one23: there's a warning about vlsub not working with vlc 2.1.0 because of some lua problem.. what version of vlc are you using?
[15:09] <Sh0rtWave> Hi all
[15:09] <NightTrojan> @minimec what if i add nvidia 660 and 1tb hard drive with 120gb ssd for ubuntu
[15:10] <tarelerulz> Using google chrome remote desktop on Ubuntu 14.04  and not getting anything .
[15:10] <minimec> NightTrojan: ... then you are a 'power user' ... ;)
[15:11] <Slart> tarelerulz: any errors? or just not getting any connections?
[15:11] <tarelerulz> No connecting
[15:11] <holstein> tarelerulz: try reinstalling.. try pinging the machines to make sure they have connection. try letting firewalls down to test.. report to the creators
[15:11] <NightTrojan> @minimec whats a ''poweer user''?
[15:11] <NightTrojan> ''power''*
[15:11] <tarelerulz> I turned off the firewall at one point and still the same hting
[15:12] <holstein> tarelerulz: well, turn it off, and confirm that you can ping the machine,and that they have access to each other
[15:12] <minimec> NightTrojan: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_user
[15:12] <tarelerulz> I'm trying to use my android device  as the control and the host is my Ubuntu computer which I'm writting this now
[15:12] <Slart> one23: read this thread about vlsub not working in vlc 2.1.x  especially the reply from exebetche https://github.com/exebetche/vlsub/issues/28
[15:13] <holstein> tarelerulz: try from computer to computer, to rule out the mobile control
[15:13] <tarelerulz> Good call
[15:14] <newb_ubuntu> How do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.
[15:15] <module000> newb_ubuntu: use xrandr to add new modes and switch to them if the GUI isn't cooperating
[15:15] <schadi> alo
[15:15] <schadi> co fajnego
[15:15] <schadi> ?
[15:16] <Slart> !pl | schadi
[15:16] <NightTrojan> @minimec I like it!
[15:16] <blockie> quit
[15:17] <minimec> newb_ubuntu: xrandr would be your choice. google search "xrandr add display mode ubuntu" https://www.google.ch/search?output=search&sclient=psy-ab&q=xrandr+add+display+mode+ubuntu&btnG=&oq=&gs_l=&pbx=1
[15:18] <Nukien> Sorry to repeat ... Anyone here having trouble with 14.04 and php5/php5-fpm/mcrypt ? "php --ri mcrypt" shows it enabled, but phpinfo() doesn't, only showing the authors. roundcube can't log in, and phpmyadmin claims it's not enabled.
[15:19] <minimec> NightTrojan: I mean this will be quiet a good machine with these specs. I guess you would take 8GB RAM, maybe 16GB if you are doing heavy media work, like cutting a 2hours HD video recording...
[15:19] <Slart> Nukien: perhaps there is a channel for php or web development where you might find more answers?
[15:20] <Imple> yay all ubuntu users!
[15:20] <module000> Nukien: make sure mcrypt is set to load in php.d or php.ini
[15:20] <NightTrojan> @minimec ill go with 8gb for 5 weeks, see how fast it goes, then go for 16gb
[15:20] <Nukien> Yeah, I'm looking. Thing is, it works fine in 13.10 - with a tweak, 13.10 puts mcrypt.ini in wrong dir, simple symlink fixes that
[15:20] <NightTrojan> @thanks mini appreciate it!
[15:21] <NightTrojan> @minimec
[15:21] <Nukien> 14.04 puts it in right place.
[15:22] <Nukien> module000: Yup, it's enables, link is in /etc/php5/fpm/conf.d pointing to mcrypt.ini in /etc/php5/mods-available.  mcrypt.ini has correct "extension=mcrypt.so"
[15:22] <Nukien> php --ri mcrypt shows that it's enabled, what ciphers etc.
[15:23] <Nukien> Yet a page with phpinfo() doesn't show it, only the line stating the authors - it's supposed to have it's own section showing ciphers
[15:23] <module000> Nukien: and you don't see it mentioned in apache(or whichever http daemon you are using)? if it's only partially loading you should get some output there
[15:23] <module000> Nukien: in the logs for your daemon i mean
[15:23] <Nukien> using nginx
[15:24] <minimec> NightTrojan: Some people say, that you should buy the RAM in 'one block', as some manufactors do change little things during production batches. So the 'new' 8GB does not work well with the 'old' 8GB. Maybe ask your retailer...
[15:24] <DestinyAwaits> Can someone help me with site not getting loaded properly problem
[15:24] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: probably the creator of the site.. otherwise, you'll need more details
[15:24] <minimec> NightTrojan: You're welcome ;)
[15:25] <DestinyAwaits> throwing error net::ERR_NAME_NOT_RESOLVED
[15:25] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: its working now on my mobile
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> DestinyAwaits  which site?
[15:25] <DestinyAwaits> wait
[15:25] <Nukien> module000: no error msgs about php or fpm
[15:26] <peterpacz1> Swap Question - Installing swap on usb decreases lifespan of said usb, but is it ok if I install a swap partition on a portable hard disk (spinning platter)
[15:26] <DestinyAwaits> http://goo.gl/aDt6EU
[15:26] <DestinyAwaits> this sit
[15:26] <DestinyAwaits> e
[15:26] <DestinyAwaits> http://goo.gl/aDt6EU
[15:26] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: the *normal* link, please
[15:26] <DestinyAwaits> the page is coming up but not the css etc
[15:27] <DestinyAwaits> https://egghead.io/
[15:27] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: just the normal unshortened, non-hidden link please..
[15:27] <DestinyAwaits> will that do?
[15:27] <peterpacz1> Would that be ok?
[15:27] <DestinyAwaits> the page is coming up but not the css and stuff
[15:27] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: do you have all the requirements?
[15:27] <DestinyAwaits> requirements?
[15:28] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i suggest trying another browser.. something like the chrome browser
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> done on chrome and firefox
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> not working
[15:28] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: works here
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> one question
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> yes on my phone as well
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits>  now working
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> fix
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> fine
[15:28] <dr_Web> peterpacz1: i have 16gb usb running ubuntu with swap partition it works well
[15:28] <DestinyAwaits> in /etc/resolv.conf
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> nameserver 127.0.01
[15:29] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: so, its just you, friend.. you should try as a different user, or maybe getting rid of cookies. and checking that you have all the requirements
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> is that correct
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> ?
[15:29] <MrSw3d3n> whanna dual-boot 14.04 with W8 (oem installation on thinkpad x1), but 14.04 doesnt recognise te other os
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: nameserver 127.0.01 is it correct??
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> in /etc/resolv.cong
[15:29] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: can you use the internet normalling from the machine? you are implying that only this site is problematic, and, is just not loading some elements
[15:29] <DestinyAwaits> conf
[15:30] <DestinyAwaits> what is normalling??
[15:30] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: this doesnt imply a networking issue, but, an issue loading those elements
[15:30] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: ? its a typo
[15:30] <DestinyAwaits> lots of elemets are not coming up
[15:30] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i meant, normally..
[15:30] <ultm8> hi everyone
[15:30] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: "lots" on other sites? or just this site?
[15:30] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: if so, its not a networkgin issue, or an issue with that site
[15:31] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: above is a typo, that is intended to be "networking"*
[15:31] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: Well this is showing the issue but am not sure but others will be effected too
[15:31] <ultm8> can anyone help me, be searching all day, tried everything and i cannot get my hdmi monitor working connected to my n46v asus laptop
[15:31] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: nameserver 127.0.01 is it correct entry in /etc/resolv.conf ??
[15:31] <DestinyAwaits> I don't find it correct
[15:32] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i use google nameservers or opendns
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> I find it issue about misconfiguration
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> can you give me the enteries ?
[15:32] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: if so, you wouldnt be able to connect to sites.. is that true?
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> I want to try that out
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> well nameserver is set to 127.0.01
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> am not sure
[15:32] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: if you have a nameserver issue, you woulndnt be able to connect to sites.. its that true?
[15:32] <DestinyAwaits> yep
[15:33] <newb_ubuntu> How do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.
[15:33] <dr_Web> hi. i just installed ubuntu 13.10 but i cannot lock scren usin ctrl+alt+l. Pls help
[15:33] <DestinyAwaits> but am not sure this is making me crazy
[15:33] <DestinyAwaits> seriously
[15:33] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: so, you cannot connect to or ping *anything? and you edit your networking config?
[15:33] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?
[15:33] <DestinyAwaits> if you help me with DNS and nameserver I will be able to resolve it
[15:33] <ultm8> newb_ubuntu, you need to install the nvidia drivers
[15:33] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: im trying my best, frient. if you want to change them, change them
[15:33] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: sorry what is that?
[15:34] <DestinyAwaits> sure
[15:34] <DestinyAwaits> pls help me
[15:34] <DestinyAwaits> am sure there is some problem with my config
[15:34] <gHo> dr_Web: look: askubuntu.com/questions/126782/keyboard-shortcut-for-lockscreen-not-working
[15:34] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: http://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/premium-dns/
[15:34] <DestinyAwaits> this site is coming up fine till yesterday
[15:34] <OerHeks> DestinyAwaits, site comes up, but css is a mess, not a dns issue then?
[15:34] <OerHeks> clear browser cache?
[15:34] <dr_Web> gHo. thanks
[15:34] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i dont think its a DNS issue.. if it were, you wouldnt be able to connect *at* *all* do the site
[15:34] <tarelerulz> holstein: Well, its not the mobile .  I installed it on Windows 7 and control it with my note 3 just fine.  It would seem Ubuntu don't work
[15:34] <DestinyAwaits> OerHeks: bro I said it css but many others are not coming up
[15:35] <DestinyAwaits> not just css
[15:35] <holstein> tarelerulz: well, it would seem that chrome on ubuntu is not working
[15:35] <DestinyAwaits> its like raw html getting loaded and rest are error
[15:35] <holstein> tarelerulz: let them know.. in my testing, i read that the linux version is limited in features
[15:36] <tarelerulz> Really limited as it don't work
[15:36] <MonkeyDust> DestinyAwaits  which browser? maybe it's a setting you have to un/check
[15:36] <holstein> tarelerulz: works for me.. how is it as another user?
[15:36] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: one more thing the sites are loading pretty slow
[15:36] <DestinyAwaits> its like dead slow
[15:36] <DestinyAwaits> even google
[15:36] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: the speed of loading is not related to DNS>. but, if you like, use the opendns settings i linked
[15:36] <tarelerulz> Well, You mean The normal user on Ubuntu or you mean different Google account
[15:37] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: even the opendns site is not getting loaded fully
[15:37] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: you can then rule that out, and move on to user config
[15:37] <DestinyAwaits> only html
[15:37] <holstein> 208.67.222.222 208.67.220.220
[15:37] <holstein> ^ open DNS name servers, DestinyAwaits
[15:37] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: where is that?
[15:38] <DestinyAwaits> where to set DNS enteries
[15:38] <D0minat0r> ubuntu 14.04, the session menu is gone? bug? i have installed gnome-shell but cannot get the button i had to choose which session to run
[15:38] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: where you asked if you should change them
[15:38] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: where they are linked to localhost, and you feel that is incorrect..
[15:38] <DestinyAwaits> /etc/resolv.conf??
[15:38] <DestinyAwaits> what is the value for nameserver
[15:38] <DestinyAwaits> if not 127.0.0.1
[15:39] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i just gave a linke to them, and listed them above
[15:39] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: no one thinks you have a DNS issue, but if you want to try the openDNS nameservers, it wont hurt
[15:39] <ovrflw0x> what does doing "Suspend" from Ubuntu 14.04 do? suspend to RAM or DISK?
[15:39] <minimec> D0minat0r: Installing gnome-shell, did it also install 'gdm', and did you have to choose the login manager during install?
[15:40] <MonkeyDust> ovrflw0x  suspend = to ram, hibernate = to disk
[15:40] <holstein> ovrflw0x: "suspend" should be ram.. hibernate is to disk..
[15:40] <D0minat0r> minimec: yup i did get to choose login manager
[15:40] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: get DNS name servers from your ISP.
[15:40] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: this is my /etc/resolv.conf
[15:40] <DestinyAwaits> # Dynamic resolv.conf(5) file for glibc resolver(3) generated by resolvconf(8)
[15:40] <DestinyAwaits> #     DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE BY HAND -- YOUR CHANGES WILL BE OVERWRITTEN
[15:40] <DestinyAwaits> nameserver 127.0.0.1
[15:40] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: i saw it above.. and i dont think its a problem.. i agree with the message that is linked there, and above.. but, if you want to set them to openDNS, go for it
[15:40] <ProhibitedUser> Sorry, but has anyone had trouble with Steam since installing Ubuntu 14.04?
[15:41] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: you can at least rule that out, and move on.. since you seem to want to address the DNS server settings
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> DestinyAwaits  use !pastebin for long pastes
[15:41] <DestinyAwaits> ah ok
[15:41] <DestinyAwaits> MonkeyDust: thx
[15:41] <tarelerulz> So holstein  What do you mean try a different user ?
[15:41] <minimec> D0minat0r: So which one did you choose lightdm or gdm?
[15:41] <DestinyAwaits> how to add the enteries in /ect/resolv.conf
[15:42] <D0minat0r> minimec: tried both
[15:42] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: this site is also not coming up on raw html is loaded http://www.opendns.com/home-internet-security/premium-dns/
[15:42] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:42] <DestinyAwaits> so its a system wide problem
[15:42] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: sudo echo nameserver x.x.x.x > /etc/resolv.conf
[15:42] <holstein> tarelerulz: i mean, the issue could be with your users config.. by loading up the guest user, you get to remove that config from the equation. if things are the same as the guest user, its system wide.. if things are fine as the guest user, the issue is in the user config (tyipcally)
[15:43] <DestinyAwaits> gHo: do I have to append?
[15:43] <SharkMa-san> my laptop on docking station doesn't recognise the two connected monitors as separate monitors and only offers a resolution to span the view on both of the monitors. Is there a way to detect the monitors as separate monitors instead of one?
[15:43] <debianto1user> Could somebody provide me with information about openssl http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/utils/openssl
[15:43] <DestinyAwaits> or overrite?
[15:43] <minimec> D0minat0r: If you temd to use gnome-shell as primary desktop manager, I would switch to gdm. I think it is better in combination with gnome-shell.
[15:43] <holstein> !info openssl
[15:43] <dbdii407> I? having an issue. When I boot from the live CD, everything is fine. But afterwards, all I get is a blinking cursor and nothing happens. Cntl+Alt+f1 just causes it to beep a lot. And I can´t shift either
[15:43] <debianto1user> 1.0.1a-f - are vulnerable to heartbleeding,
[15:43] <D0minat0r> hmmm now i do have somekinda menu but no gnome...this is getting strange gonna try reinstall gnome-shell
[15:43] <SharkMa-san> prior to 13.10, monitors connected to the docking station wouldn't even work
[15:43] <debianto1user> Why there is no up-version over the [f] ?
[15:43] <holstein> dbdii407: after you boot a live CD, and then install the OS?
[15:44] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:44] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: I have added the entry
[15:44] <minimec> D0minat0r: I would first try to 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[15:44] <dbdii407> holstein: It? already installed, I tried to boot the system itself.
[15:44] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: nameserver 208.67.222.222
[15:44] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: now what
[15:44] <DestinyAwaits> ?
[15:44] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: test it, and rule out that the issue is dns related
[15:44] <debianto1user> @holstein, Is this vulnerable version? Should I upgrade to trusty?
[15:44] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: overwrite all DNS nameserver to DNS from your ISP (from ROUTER?)
[15:44] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: no refresh or restart needed
[15:44] <holstein> debianto1user: supported versions will get security patches
[15:45] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: ? is that a question?
[15:45] <debianto1user> @holstein, I'm especially talking about heartbleed I'm under attack
[15:45] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: if i were you, i would reboot. but, yes, you can restart networking, or relog, or reboot
[15:45] <D0minat0r> minimec: i tried that already three times
[15:45] <SharkMa-san> I don't actually mind the view being on two monitors, but it's really annoying that maximising a program maximises it on both monitors
[15:45] <holstein> debianto1user: you should confirm you have the patched version
[15:45] <ovrflw0x> can anyone tell by looking at this http://pastebin.mozilla.org/4861707 <-- why did computer hanged while trying to resume after suspend?
[15:45] <debianto1user> # apt-show-versions openssl
[15:45] <debianto1user> openssl:amd64/saucy-security 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.1 upgradeable to 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.2
[15:46] <debianto1user> IS this 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1.1 - vulnerable ?
[15:46] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: gHo: guess what when I change the nameserver from 127.0.0.1 to 208.67.222.222 site is loading up and speed is good to load the site
[15:46] <DestinyAwaits> Yes
[15:46] <DestinyAwaits> its working now
[15:46] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:46] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: cheers.. enjoy
[15:46] <minimec> D0minat0r: If you added a new user for a test? Just to see whether the desktop configuration is working with that new user?
[15:46] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: ;-)
[15:46] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: but I have added one dns and there are 2 on the site
[15:46] <DestinyAwaits> how to add
[15:47] <holstein> !dns
[15:47] <DestinyAwaits> is it comma-seperated?
[15:47] <debianto1user> @holstein, what do you mean? I have? I want to start upgrade to harden my system, But I can't find a-e-f[g], I can't find [g] - version of openssl in trusty
[15:47] <debianto1user> not a saucy
[15:47] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: append OEF
[15:48] <DestinyAwaits> gHo: what?
[15:48] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: sudo echo nameserver x.x.x.x >> /etc/resolv.conf
[15:48] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:48] <newb_ubuntu> How do I change display resolution ubuntu 12.04 custom using 1600 x 900 ? There's no option to select 1600x900 at the display monitor selection . Using nouveau ,  and my graphic card is nvidia GC.
[15:48] <holstein> debianto1user: i would check out http://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-heartbleed-bug/1607 and make sure i have the patched version.. checking any and all other sources til im sure
[15:48] <DestinyAwaits> gHo: so I can have two nameserver entries of two different IP's?
[15:48] <DestinyAwaits> right??
[15:48] <holstein> !dns | DestinyAwaits
[15:48] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: right
[15:49] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: I opened that up didn't get a thing on /etc/reslov.conf
[15:49] <DestinyAwaits> :)
[15:49] <DestinyAwaits> ok
[15:50] <debianto1user> @holstein, thx
[15:50] <DestinyAwaits> ok got it
[15:50] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/dns-troubleshooting.html
[15:50] <DestinyAwaits> this page has it
[15:50] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: ok. refer to it, and do what you like
[15:51] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: gHo: Thanks brothers for helping me out.
[15:52] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: did you reboot for the settings to take effect?
[15:52] <gHo> DestinyAwaits: no problem ;-)
[15:52] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: reboot? no
[15:52] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: if so, i think that was more relating to what "Fixed" your issue, rather than the dns settings..
[15:52] <DestinyAwaits> it works without a reboot
[15:53] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: didn't get it
[15:53] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:53] <DestinyAwaits> so it was no dns problem?
[15:53] <holstein> DestinyAwaits: im implying i dont, and didnt think it was.. but enjoy, since its working
[15:54] <tarelerulz> Well, I loaded into guest and try to open chrome and  It does not even load up at all.  SO The whole idea of see if chrome desktop remote working in a different user is shot.
[15:54] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: The site link you gave and the one I gave you egghead are not opening until I removed the nameserver 127.0.0.1 and add the two dns enteries
[15:54] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: now the sites are loading fast and expected
[15:55] <NRF19> Hi, I'm installing Ubuntu 12.04 via USB DVD, install works fine but on reboot I get stuck at boot screen - running boot repair hasn't fixed anything either, tried on 2 harddrive
[15:55] <jimi_> My canon printer is an all in one, it works as a printer, and it works as a printer over wifi, but the scan feature doesn't seem to be detected. Thoughts?
[15:55] <NRF19> Any advice?
[15:56] <superpomme> yo.
[15:56] <holstein> jimi_: doenst work for me.. since i wasnt promised linux support for scanning, or printing, and i can get printing, i was pretty pleased
[15:56] <dusf123_> i am installing 14.04 on a disk already containing windows 8.1, i have selected 'something else' but how do i know which of the partitions are the efi partition? i have a 300mb recovery so it's not that, but also a 100MB flagged boot and a 128MB flagged msftres?
[15:56] <holstein> jimi_: you should let them know you would enjoy a scanning utility
[15:56] <syee> hi
[15:56] <dusf123_> and which device do i select for bootloader installation? the disk is sda, but i think efi is sda2
[15:56] <syee> http://imgur.com/ajrRwdU
[15:56] <holstein> NRF19: is it a grub issue? after install?
[15:56] <superpomme> A quoi sert ce chat ?
[15:57] <syee> when i shut down ubuntu it sticks on that screen
[15:57] <tarelerulz> holstein: What would you say is the next thing to try ?
[15:57] <holstein> NRF19: i would try *not* installing updates and upgrades during the install, so the installed system is more *exactly* the same as the live version
[15:57] <syee> and never shuts down
[15:57] <gHo> NRF19: firs check boot order in BIOS
[15:57] <holstein> tarelerulz: for?
[15:57] <NRF19> Not sure whether this is a system.  Failt
[15:57] <dusf123_> !swap
[15:57] <holstein> NRF19: ^ i agree with the boot order, if you havent done so
[15:57] <NRF19> Checked that, the drive is install to is the main drive
[15:58] <Bosi> Hello everyone, I have a American keyboard and I'm trying to make it work for Portuguese. For example ' + C = Ç, or ' + e = é. How do I do that?
[15:58] <NRF19> Also try F12 boot menu and it doesn't work, just gets held up
[15:58] <tarelerulz> I'm trying to get chrome reomte desktop to work on Ubuntu.  The whole changing to guest did not work.  I could not open chrome period.  I got to open and nothing would happen
[15:58] <NRF19> And then asks to insert boot cd agaib
[15:59] <gHo> Bosi: dpkg-reconfigure console-data
[15:59] <spacebug^> Anyway to get vmware-tools vmhgfs module working under 14.04? (Host Windows 8.1 pro, client Ubuntu 14.04)
[16:00] <NRF19> Gets stuck on verifying dmi pool data
[16:00] <syee> http://imgur.com/ajrRwdU
[16:00] <syee> can someone help me?
[16:00] <Bosi> gHo, it says console-data is not installed nor available
[16:01] <jimi_> holstein, ah, i was able to get it working using a source package from canon for 1 series different from mine it appears
[16:01] <gHo> Bosi: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[16:01] <rol_> is it normal that when i do ls (hd0,gpt2) instead of seeing my linux image, it just gives me filesystem type,date last used and its uuid ? (system cannot boot, so i'm troubleshooting )
[16:03] <NRF19> Any tips as to what I can try next?
[16:04] <Bosi> gHo, then what? I mean my keyboard is a PC (Intl. Generic, 105 keys) ... but I want to make it work for the Portuguese language. when ~ + a = ã, you got what I'm saying?
[16:07] <sss> sss
[16:07] <NRF19> What's best file system to clean install on?
[16:07] <NRF19> For Ubuntu
[16:07] <holstein> NRF19: "best" is always a matter of opiniona nd use case.. use the defaults
[16:08] <kostkon> NRF19, ext4, the default choice
[16:08] <NRF19> Cool, I'm going to try another install
[16:08] <sss> what's best editor free for developers
[16:08] <sss> ?
[16:09] <minimec> Bosi: Go to /etc/default/keyboard and do the changes there. Afterwards do 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
[16:09] <OerHeks> !ide | sss pick your choice
[16:09] <ovrflw0x> how can I get "ubuntu 14.04" like "exact" font redering under 'Arch Linux'? in browsers in thunderbird etc etc
[16:09] <gast__1> How can I configure the indicator under Unity 2D to show the reboot option?
[16:10] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, that depends on the browser itself
[16:11] <sss> ubottu, your favorite ?
[16:11] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, using Firefox
[16:11] <clue_h> the bot does not mention nano, that needs to be fixed
[16:11] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, ?
[16:12] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, so firefox on Arch renders different than FF on ubuntu?
[16:12] <sss> ubottu , what's bot?
[16:12] <OerHeks> !best| sss
[16:13] <OerHeks> oh that factoid is removed, there is no single best
[16:13] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, can i Just "copy" the font directory in ubuntu and transfer all fonts to arch linux to get same rendering?
[16:13] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, no, you would get the same fonts
[16:14] <sss> ?
[16:14] <OerHeks> the rendering engine is inside FF
[16:14] <sss> what's bot ?
[16:14] <holstein> sss: most folks just use a text editor.. you should just load up options from the repos, and try them
[16:14] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, which is the redering engine?
[16:14] <holstein> sss: a bot is just that. a "robot". not a person.. ubottu is not a person
[16:15] <sss> thanks
[16:15] <holstein> !ide
[16:15] <holstein> sss: ^
[16:15] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, again: the rendering engine is inside FF
[16:15] <ovrflw0x> so what to do
[16:15] <OerHeks> so it would be the same.
[16:16] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, so what do i need ?
[16:17] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, i dont know, just pointing at that ff is has the render engine, so it should not be different on arch/ubuntu
[16:17] <ovrflw0x> but i need Fonts which should they be?
[16:17] <sss> bye
[16:21] <chipotle> if i install php5-fpm on 12.0.4 will it override my php with fastcgi running? the end goal is to set up php5-fpm with nginx, right now i have php fastcgi running with apache2... i want to know if i install php5-fpm, will it bring down my site that's running, since it's two different php's?
[16:23] <Chuo> Hey guys, any ideas why I can't execute .sh .run or files without extension on nautilus after changing permissions? The pointer wheel spins but doesn't do anything, any way I can check this on terminal?
[16:23] <veryhappy> hey guys, can't I install bluetooth for my mobile phone that i can search files on it in nautilus?
[16:24] <clue_h> Chuo, does it have execution permissions
[16:24] <veryhappy> and which package would that be?
[16:24] <Chuo> clue_h: As i said I had already changed the permission on the properties dialogue
[16:25] <MonkeyDust> veryhappy  try blueman (bluetooth manager)
[16:25] <clue_h> to run it from the terminal,  it's    ./script.sh
[16:27] <Chuo> clue_h: I wan't to figure out why it won't execute in nautilus, fglrx runs in terminal but not in nautilus
[16:28] <clue_h> Chuo, i'm not certain but i think some programs like that are entirely terminal based
[16:29] <Caelum> recently my cinnamon started constantly freezing on trusty, I'm using the saucy stable release from the gwendal ppa
[16:30] <Caelum> the mouse moves, music continues playing, but I can't click on anything
[16:30] <Chuo> clue_h: I don't think so because I have run it before from nautilus in 12.04 and after I run it in terminal it still opens a graphical interface
[16:33] <Chuo> By the way I had to select execute program from the menu of apps that can open the file otherwise it kept trying to use gedit
[16:33] <Caelum> it looks like there's no official cinnamon packages for trusty?
[16:34] <kostkon> !find cinnamon
[16:35] <Caelum> what could cause it to freeze up and not respond to clicks, I tried a couple different releases from the ppa
[16:36] <trism> Caelum: no it was deleted in january because it was removed from debian testing
[16:36] <Caelum> trism: I see
[16:37] <rvdv> why phpmyadmin complaining about mcryp not being loaded ... I have it installed ... puting extension=mcrypt.so in php.ini gives me apache complaining about wanting the module ssl enabled ...
[16:38] <rvdv> rolling this back ca not get appache without ssl running anymore
[16:38] <Caelum> why do you care if ssl is enabled if you aren't using it?
[16:38] <rvdv> apache complains
[16:38] <rvdv> I do not want it
[16:39] <rvdv> apache wants it ... but i do not know why ... because the module is disabled
[16:39] <mmiller13> does anyone knows how to scrape an hd
[16:39] <Coded1> mmiller13: what do you mean by scrape?
[16:39] <Toph> mmiller13,,, scrape or scrap?
[16:40] <mmiller13> recovery scrape
[16:40] <Coded1> huh?
[16:40] <Caelum> you want to find information on the filesystem?
[16:40] <mmiller13> recover data thats lost
[16:41] <Caelum> was it deleted or did the drive die?
[16:41] <Coded1> what filesystem?  ext3/ext4/btrfs?
[16:42] <Chuo> Guys how do I install this shared libraries: libstdc++.so.6 a game is giving me the error
[16:42] <Coded1> http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[16:43] <Caelum> Chuo: it's probably a 32 bit game and you need the i386 libs packages for it
[16:43] <mmiller13> a raid level was change
[16:44] <xubuntu215> hey guys / I have a question, first still, I do not speak English, so I would like to play the game on linux -> http://ygopro.de/, downloaded and tried to start with wine, but I get an error that I NETFramework 4 client need, I can instalieren about wine, or any other tips?
[16:44] <gareppa> Chuo: that file is inside a library, libstdc++ for example install it from synaptic or install that game directly from synaptic
[16:44] <Coded1> xubuntu215: try "winetricks"
[16:45] <Mattmax059> Hello, all. Im getting this error message upon trying to change my screen resolution: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownMethod: No such interface
[16:46] <xubuntu215> @coded1
[16:46] <xubuntu215> I tried, but I have a 64bit version
[16:47] <Chuo> I have this installed http://apt.ubuntu.com/p/libstdc++-4.8-dev do I need another version? what's the name for the i386 libs one? the one I found primus-libs-ia32:i386
[16:48] <xubuntu215> ??'
[16:49] <penguin42> CHo: Take the -dev off the end and add :i386
[16:49] <gareppa> Chuo: apt-get install lib32stdc++6
[16:49] <gareppa> well, the 6 maybe another number
[16:50] <robbie> I am getting a boot error (after grub) with ¨diskfilter writes are not supported¨. I dont have any raid but I have SSDs.
[16:51] <robbie> the error isn´t blocking, it comes right up. But not right away. how can I resolve the issue
[16:52] <Coded1> xubuntu215: you can try downloading the .Net you need from MS and run that from wine
[16:52] <Coded1> but I don't think it should matter
[16:53] <schtinky> trying to download 14.04 on a core i5 and the website keeps trying to make download ...AMD.iso when I select "64-bit"... obviously I can go get the i386 version, but is that the low RAM version?
[16:53] <schtinky> should I really be using the AMD version for my core i5?
[16:53] <clue_h> how much ram do you have
[16:53] <Coded1> schtinky: yup the AMD64 is the one you want
[16:53] <schtinky> 4
[16:53] <schtinky> really? that's confusing
[16:54] <clue_h> it confused me too a while back
[16:54] <schtinky> ok thanks clue_h and coded1
[16:54] <Coded1> Intel owns the 32 bit commands and AMD owns the 64 bit commands
[16:54] <Coded1> they both run both though
[16:54] <ikonia> that is just lies
[16:54] <ikonia> intel and amd own nothing
[16:55] <Coded1> Intel owns the x86 commands
[16:55] <ikonia> they do not own anything
[16:55] <Coded1> if you say so
[16:55] <penguin42> ikonia: I think you'll find there is a set of licensing on them
[16:55] <ikonia> they do not "own" them
[16:56] <ikonia> they created/license the insturction set
[16:56] <robbie> I imagine there is no confusion about them both owning the irght to use the isntructions
[16:56] <kostkon> xubuntu215, add the wine ppa and then install wine-mono4.5.2
[16:56] <Coded1> so they own the instruction sets then?
[16:56] <ikonia> even thats a slim description
[16:57] <kostkon> xubuntu215, is it a game that you download on your pc or do yhou play it online
[16:57] <Coded1> cool
[16:57] <Kamaris> Does anyone here have any experience with 14.04/Unity running x11vnc showing a black screen to the client connection? The mouse is active and you can interact with the host screen, but nothing displays. I'm running it on Virtualbox at present, and I'm unsure if that is the limiting factor and there would be no issue on a prod, headless system. x11vnc also has the -noxdamage flag used. Any suggestions so I can continue testing i
[16:57] <robbie> I am getting a boot error (after grub) with ¨diskfilter writes are not supported¨... boots right up after a pause. I dont have any raid but I have SSDs: any idea what to do? I read something about changing something in fstab here: https://forum.manjaro.org/index.php?topic=11196.0 but that appears to apply to raids.
[16:58] <xubuntu215> @kostkon yes
[16:58] <kostkon> xubuntu215, local or online?
[16:59] <denysonique_> Anyone had a smiliar issue before?
[16:59] <denysonique_> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/compizconfig-settings-manager_1%3a0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[16:59] <denysonique_>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/ccsm', which is also in package libunity-core-6.0-9 7.2.0+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1
[16:59] <xubuntu215> Kostkon,  Online in a Launcher
[16:59] <kostkon> xubuntu215, it might be a silverlight game then
[16:59] <denysonique_> I get this when trying # apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:00] <robbie> strangely, deleteing /boot/grub/grubenv makes it go away for 1 reboot, but after that the error is back
[17:00] <kostkon> xubuntu215, so you probably need to install pipelight
[17:00] <xubuntu215> you can write to me privately? please
[17:01] <nullbyte_> who runs skype in 14.04lts?
[17:01] <xubuntu215> @kostkon I tried to start the game, but it told me it needs 4.net framework client.
[17:01] <gareppa> me
[17:02] <nullbyte_> gareppa: how?
[17:02] <kostkon> xubuntu215, yeah try installing pipelight http://www.webupd8.org/2014/04/pipelight-026-released-with.html  it will add silveright support to your browser
[17:02] <gareppa> skype icon appear and disappear on system trash
[17:02] <gareppa> nullbyte_: i installed it from partners repository in 13.10 prior to upgrade
[17:02] <robbie> do llvm partitions in fstab need 0 1 set for <dump> and <pass> ?
[17:02] <xubuntu215> sure?
[17:02] <nullbyte_> ok
[17:03] <kostkon> xubuntu215, about what
[17:03] <ikonia> robbie: they don't "need" either
[17:03] <ikonia> robbie: it's your choice.
[17:03] <robbie> I mean entries like: UUID=
[17:03] <sixwheeledbeast> minimec: thank you, I had to copy back ~160 GB of /home/user from /home/user-bak :) but I have my panels back.
[17:03] <johndropper> Duel boot is a thing of the past I guess
[17:03] <robbie> ikonia: thanks .. you think that is true even if it is a raid or ssd?
[17:03] <johndropper> Dual boot doesn't work anymore
[17:04] <ikonia> robbie: raid/ssd it doesn't matter,
[17:04] <ikonia> robbie: it's your choice
[17:04] <robbie> johndropper: since upgrading 14.04?
[17:04] <Haswell> anyone know if proprietary drivers of AMD radeon have been banned from Ubuntu? I was using them in ubuntu 12.04 until now two months ago, and in an update I lost that driver. Now I can't play OpenArena. My graphic card, radeon HD 4670.
[17:04] <ikonia> Haswell: they have not been banned
[17:04] <kostkon> xubuntu215, is this the download page http://ygopro.de/de/?page_id=12
[17:04] <johndropper> I tried it with 14 but it would recognize my windows 8
[17:04] <johndropper> I did every said from every forum
[17:04] <robbie> ikonia: do you know where I can read about "diskfilter writes are not supported"  ?
[17:05] <xubuntu215> @kostkon yes bro!!!
[17:05] <ikonia> what do you mean read about it ? there are a ton of bugs logged about it
[17:05] <robbie> johndropper: are you drunk? :)
[17:05] <Jordan_U> johndropper: Please pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[17:05] <johndropper> Lol
[17:05] <johndropper> I dont have ubuntu
[17:05] <johndropper> Lol
[17:05] <robbie> ikonia: I cant find much. I am getting that error each boot. deleting "/boot/grub/grubenv" fixes it for 1 reboot only.
[17:06] <ikonia> robbie: there are LOTS of bugs logged about it
[17:06] <kostkon> xubuntu215, ok, then add the wine ppa, install wine1.7 and wine-mono4.5.2
[17:06] <robbie> ikonia: Im not looking for bugs Im looking for documentation - if the error is in there there aught to be documentation about it somewhere
[17:06] <kostkon> xubuntu215, and hope that it will work
[17:06] <johndropper> Thanks tho
[17:06] <Jordan_U> johndropper: Please boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD/USB and pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l".
[17:06] <ikonia> robbie: documentation about the error ??? that is a bug
[17:06] <kostkon> xubuntu215, chances are slim imo
[17:07] <Haswell> ikonia, the drivers have not been banned. ok. Then what explanation do you have for losing the drivers in an update?
[17:07] <xubuntu215> kostkon I tried it. but it does not so
[17:07] <ikonia> Haswell: no idea what you're talking about
[17:07] <robbie> ikonia: I am looking for documentation about the error code that is reported. An error code should be documented somewhere.
[17:07] <ikonia> robbie: yes, it's documented in the bug reports
[17:08] <robbie> ikonia: no I mean documentation for ubuntu
[17:08] <SRI_nazi> hi there, i want to install ubuntu in the root partion and keep the home partion seperate..i want to know if again want to install another version of ubuntu the home partion will be intact right?? :)
[17:08] <kostkon> xubuntu215, then there's not much you could do, other than using windows
[17:08] <Jordan_U> robbie: It's a bug with an Ubuntu specific patch relating to the recordfail feature.
[17:08] <ikonia> robbie: yes, there are ubuntu bugs
[17:08] <piovisqui> I've update to 14.04 and the Xorg server is eating all CPU. How can I debug it?
[17:08] <xubuntu215> kostkon, that must function but
[17:08] <robbie> Jordan_U thank you
[17:08] <ikonia> as I keep saying it's documented in the bug
[17:08] <ikonia> (bugs)
[17:08] <robbie> well a bug report isnt documentation at all
[17:08] <xangua> SRI_nazi: if you don't format it, yes it will be intact
[17:08] <xubuntu215> kostkon, winetricks ?
[17:09] <xangua> SRI_nazi: asuming your /home is on a separate partition
[17:09] <johndropper> Yeah guys I quit
[17:09] <robbie> an error code without documentation is useless, they should jsut remove it
[17:09] <kostkon> xubuntu215, oh yes, give it a try
[17:09] <ikonia> robbie: what part of "it's documented in the bug report" can you not grasp
[17:09] <SRI_nazi> xubuntu215, will it automatically mount on startup
[17:09] <Jordan_U> robbie: That feature requires writing to /boot/grub/grubenv from grub, which isn't safe to do from grub when said file is on a RAID array (diskfilter).
[17:09] <ikonia> robbie: the error is VERY useful, as it explains the proble and allows people (as Jordan_U has just shown) to find the problem
[17:09] <robbie> ikonia: don't pick a fight with me, jsut listen and try to understand, or do something else
[17:09] <xubuntu215>  I hope not :34
[17:10] <ikonia> robbie: no - you listen, it IS documented, so complaining that it's not documented is wrong
[17:10] <ikonia> Jordan_U: looks like it also hits LVM
[17:10] <robbie> ikonia: I'd like to see documentation then. Not ambiguous references to unspecificed bugs
[17:10] <ikonia> or any layer between device - $something - filesysstem
[17:10] <xubuntu215> kostkon, with winetricks maybe I could trick the program or as
[17:10] <SRI_nazi> xangua, yes in a seperate partion...will automatically mount on startup
[17:10] <xubuntu215> bypass ???'
[17:10] <ikonia> robbie: if you read the bugs it explains it in pretty good detail
[17:11] <kostkon> xubuntu215, no, use it to install the .net libs
[17:11] <dee_> Anybody want to help me real quick?
[17:11] <xubuntu215> what if I write myself tion program? and thus net to bypass?$
[17:11] <dee_> I tried to upgrade Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 and messed something up where it doesn't boot. I made a 14.04 USB drive to reinstall but first I want to back up my home folder but whenever I try that I get an error saying permission denied
[17:11] <xubuntu215> yes -> NET-Bibliotheken installieren
[17:11] <OerHeks> dee_, ask your real question and be patient
[17:11] <xubuntu215> that's what makes problems
[17:11] <SRI_nazi> xangua, will it automatically mount at the startup
[17:11] <robbie> ikonia: yeah? that's great. But I mean the software itself as to have documentation including error codes. That is what I imagine I need.
[17:12] <ikonia> robbie: what software ?
[17:12] <robbie> ikonia: it is the recordfail feature, I hear
[17:12] <NightTrojan> @dee_ make sure you enter "/"
[17:12] <xangua> SRI_nazi: just remember to use your same user (and password if it is encypted)
[17:12] <ikonia> robbie: it's a patch
[17:12] <ikonia> robbie: and it's documented in the patch
[17:12] <robbie> ikonia: are patches software?
[17:12] <ikonia> robbie: which the bugs I keep telling you to read point at
[17:12] <robbie> well what is the patch? if that is where the documentation is, I just need its url
[17:12] <ikonia> robbie: depends how you want to word it, patches contain "code" but on their own, software, no
[17:13] <ikonia> this is pointless
[17:13] <dee_> When I use the cp command to coppy it, the terminal says "ommitting /home"
[17:13] <xubuntu215> it will work, and if I have to write a program itself, the only thing I have to do is to bypass net, "to deceive"
[17:13] <robbie> ikonia: if you can, I'd appreciate the url to the patch so I can read the documentation...
[17:13] <ikonia> robbie: it's not that simple
[17:13] <ikonia> if you read the bugs as I keep telling you - it explains the problem
[17:13] <robbie> ikonia: that's why I needed some help
[17:13] <ikonia> robbie: what do you want to happen ?
[17:13] <robbie> ikonia: you never gave a url to anything specific
[17:14] <ikonia> robbie: do you want a fix ?
[17:14] <NormalGoose> @Dee_ make a fresh drive install and re-download through ubuntu's website
[17:14] <SRI_nazi> xangua, i not sure wheather i understand, will it auto mount at startup or should i do manually mount it
[17:14] <robbie> ikonia that would be nice .. but Im kinda doubting it is that simple
[17:14] <Jordan_U> robbie: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320
[17:14] <ikonia> robbie: ok, so at the moment there is no "fix" for it, it looks like a fix will be released
[17:14] <dee_> I already have a flashdrive ready, I just want to backup my home folder first
[17:14] <ikonia> robbie: so sit tight and wait for the fix to be pushed out
[17:14] <sima> I wonder. Will my 8600GT continue to work if I upgrade from (X)Ubuntu 13.10 64bit to 14.04 LTS? I use Nvidia proprietary driver distributed by Ubuntu and I failed in installing Nvidia driver manually, previously.
[17:15] <sima> since I have trouble with FX5200 on one 32-bit laptop with 14.04 , it works only with nouveau  and sometimes it fails to boot right.
[17:16] <xubuntu215> fuck it
[17:16] <robbie> Jordan_U: thanks again. I actually read that before coming here but it is nice to see t again. Notice that that problem is for raids? in the thread there, someone suggests changing <dump> and <pass> for raid partitions to 0 1 from 0 0 ... and another thread suggest that it worked for them. But I don't have any raid
[17:16] <ikonia> robbie: it's not just raid
[17:17] <ikonia> robbie: tht's why I keep saying there are "many" bug reports for it
[17:17] <ikonia> rather than just one that suggests just one situation
[17:17] <SRI_nazi> hey if i create a seprate partion for home dir in my ubuntu system will it automatically mount at the startup
[17:17] <Jordan_U> robbie: Do you use LVM or btrfs?
[17:17] <robbie> ikonia: the bug report Joran_U gave me was a problem specific to raids
[17:17] <robbie> Jordan_U: LVM
[17:17] <Jordan_U> robbie: That is the issue then.
[17:18] <ikonia> robbie: this is why I didn't link you to 1 bug - and keep saying "there are MULTIPLE" bugs for it
[17:18] <ikonia> robbie: because there are various situations that can trigger it
[17:18] <NF19> having install  issues with ubuntu - can install from dvd but on reboot get verifying DMI pool data failure insert system disc
[17:18] <alaing> I'm running ubuntu server on a spare machine at home
[17:19] <robbie> Jordan_U: okay. looking at comment #5 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2/+bug/1274320/comments/5 ¥ do you think that this might work for LVM as well as raids ¥ like changing UUID entries that way?
[17:19] <NF19> I just inserted a windows 7 disc and it launced ubuntu
[17:19] <alaing> i'm having problems with permission with a CMS that I'm using
[17:19] <suore> Hi
[17:19] <NF19> primary bios boot device is the HDD
[17:19] <suore> i have preoblem with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
[17:19] <NF19> any pointers?
[17:19] <alaing> I know my apache server is using user www-data and user group www-data
[17:19] <suore> i have blur effect
[17:19] <suore> ..
[17:19] <NightTrojan> @suore Welcome
[17:19] <alaing> I've just noticed that my /var/www is displaying my username for both owner and group
[17:19] <robbie> Jordan_U: there is another page elsewhere where someone points out that the solution in comment#5 worked for them. thats why I ask
[17:19] <alaing> is this correct?
[17:19] <gareppa> yeah, uppgrading messed up my apache installation too, i'll have to figure it out...
[17:19] <alaing> shouldn't it be www-data?
[17:20] <ikonia> alaing: change it
[17:20] <Jordan_U> robbie: I don't see how that could have an effect either way.
[17:20] <alaing> I've noticed the /var/www/ files and folders mainly have my username:group and some have root:root
[17:20] <suore> i have global blur  effect i usualy all is not readable i uplaoding video
[17:20] <alaing> drwxrwxrwx+ 20 thelaings thelaings  4096 Apr 18 20:50 www
[17:20] <Jordan_U> robbie: Do you realize that the error message doesn't actually prevent booting?
[17:20] <suore> i hope its recorded corectly
[17:21] <robbie> Jordan_U: yeah. Honestly I dont use Linux much anymore, Im doing this for my dad. He sees the error message and wants it fixed.
[17:22] <suore> and i have 2 times nvidia-settings xD
[17:22] <NightTrojan> @suore you don't think it's because you have 2 settings for Nvidia do you?
[17:23] <dee_> I'm booted off of a Ubuntu flashdrive right now and I'm trying to copy the home directory of my broken Ubuntu install. When I copy and paste is says "permission denied!"
[17:23] <OerHeks> dee copy to where ?
[17:23] <NightTrojan> @dee_ don't copy it then?
[17:23] <suore> NightTrojan, nope at dashboard i have 2x NVIDIA X Server Settings
[17:23] <OerHeks> dee_, we need more information to give any answer
[17:23] <dee_> @OerHeks to my other HDD that I have Windows installed on
[17:23] <Jordan_U> robbie: If you add the following to /boot/grub/custom.cfg (create it if it doesn't already exist) it should "disable" recordfail and stop the error, but this is entirely untested: function recordfail { true; } #Suggested as a work around by Jordan_U in #ubuntu, remove once the bug is properly fixed.
[17:23] <suore> but only 1x its installl nvidia-settings -.-
[17:24] <dee_> @OerHeks what other information
[17:24] <NightTrojan> @suore I recommend reinstalling
[17:24] <suore> NightTrojan, reinstalling of what?
[17:24] <NF19> think I've found my problem boot repair says that  'The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them.' how would I resolve this?
[17:24] <OerHeks> dee_, doe you see files in your windows partition? is it encrypted ?
[17:24] <NF19> I'm booted into ubuntu now
[17:25] <robbie> Jordan_U: that is condensing Quesar's idea right? I was just looking at that. thank you
[17:26] <suore> what about bluring after install of nvidia drivers?
[17:26] <ikonia> robbie: your best option is to just wait for a fix to be pushed out
[17:26] <Beldar> NF19, Post a link from the bootinfo summary generated by using the bootrepair app.
[17:26] <Discordian_> So Ubuntu 14.04 didn't recognize my A10 APU so after installation it went to low-graphics mode and I wasn't able to pick options or chose anything, the solution was to go to the terminal (ctrl+alt+f1) and install fglrx
[17:26] <dee_> OerHeks, neither partition is encypted. From what I read the /home folder has a special permission of 000 but don't know how to get past that
[17:26] <NF19> Beldar, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/
[17:26] <ikonia> robbie: you may end up doing damage putting work arounds in
[17:27] <Jordan_U> robbie: Someone else may have had the idea also. I haven't looked at the bug report recently and came up with this fix on my own. The nicw thing about it is that (unlike modifying anything in /etc/grub.d/) it shouldn't cause any problems with upgrades.
[17:27] <NightTrojan> @suore drivers!
[17:28] <Beldar> NF19, Is the sda HD the first read in the bios?
[17:28] <NF19> yeah
[17:28] <robbie> ikonia, Jordan_U: thank you both
[17:28] <OerHeks> dee_, dont copy your /home/* but  cd /home/<username>/ and copy *
[17:28] <NF19> even when I try F12 to bring up primary boot menu and select sda drive it still doesn't work - only way to boot in seems to be to put any disc in the usb disc drive I have
[17:29] <NF19> however I'm wanting to move this PC back into the cupboard (away from monitors - managed via rdp) once setup so this won't be possible
[17:29] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | NF19
[17:30] <OerHeks> NF19 my bios has 2 entrys to set when i want to boot, hdd order and bootdevice, check hdd order
[17:30] <NF19> HDD order also good
[17:30] <Beldar> Jordan_U, here is nf19's boot info, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285477/
[17:30] <NF19> the drive I want is the first in there - I'll check out boot info
[17:30] <dee_> OerHeks, I get "omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’"
[17:31] <OerHeks> dee_, that looks like your iso, not writable
[17:31] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[17:32] <dee_> OekHeks, thats where my flashdrive mounted the HDD with the broken Linux build on it
[17:34] <dee_> OekHeks, I typed " omitting directory ‘/media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/’ "
[17:34] <NF19> by the looks on it I think I need to seperate out my boot partition - this means nothing to me though
[17:34] <dee_> OekHeks "cp /media/xubuntu/792f6b37-35dc-44ba-af56-da31fbb82871/home/dee /media/xubuntu/COMPAQ/Backup" *
[17:34] <NF19> message from boot repair (The boot files of [The OS now in use - Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS] are far from the start of the disk. Your BIOS may not detect them. You may want to retry after creating a /boot partition (EXT4, >200MB, start of the disk). This can be performed via tools such as gParted. Then select this partition via the [Separate /boot partition:] option of [Boot Repair]. (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootPartition))
[17:35] <Jordan_U> NF19: That actually doesn't seem like it would help to me, at least with the symptoms you've described.
[17:36] <ovrflw0x> how can I get "ubuntu 14.04" like "exact" font redering under 'Arch Linux'? in browsers in thunderbird etc etc
[17:36] <NF19> right, any other things you think I should try? All this was caused by a power outage yesterday (have tested all HDD's in another PC) decided to clean install as I've been having some issues with certain packages wanted to tidy upo a bit :(
[17:36] <NF19> been trying to figure this out since this morning
[17:37] <mastercaster> hi, I installed eclipse
[17:37] <excalibr> what's with the grub screen in 14.04? i see black background with small purple screen in the front of it
[17:38] <suore> https://www.dropbox.com/s/5wek1typ31xiv1o/212.mkv download video - bluring problem :(
[17:38] <suore> how o repair
[17:39] <Jordan_U> NF19: Which of your drives are internal?
[17:40] <NF19> all
[17:40] <dee_> OekHek, nevermind the installer allowed me to keep my personal files so I don't have to worry about that
[17:40] <NF19> so SDA. SDB. SDC
[17:40] <mastercaster> hi, I installed eclipse  on ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i dont know how to update it. if i start it normally I dont have rights to update and if I start it as root I cannot update. Also I can only install the Android Dev Kit as root (obviously) but then if i start eclipse as a  normal user, I cannot start the android dev perspective. Can someone advise me please how this is supposed to work out?
[17:40] <NF19> only usb-cd drive is external
[17:41] <Jordan_U> NF19: I wonder if your BIOS is simply not waiting long enough for your drives to spin up.
[17:41] <NF19> off to go eat - I'll pick up any responses shortly.
[17:41] <NF19> BIOS detects the drives does an IDE scan and shows the 3
[17:42] <tonesfrommars> Hi all, trying to upgrade from 12LTS to 14LTS, got 'could not calculate upgrade' error. Found this is in dist.upgrade/main.log: 2014-04-19 10:32:31,775 ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.' Any tips on how to proceed?
[17:43] <Beldar> tonesfrommars, The lts upgrade is in july to start with.
[17:43] <dcmg> hey how can i change the key mapping of my keyboard temporarily ?
[17:44] <tonesfrommars> haha, ok. thnx Beldar
[17:44] <dcmg> we not keymapping, i need to make a German umlaut
[17:44] <dcmg> well *
[17:44] <nikomo> Anyone here have any personal all-in-one device recommendations that work great in Ubuntu? I know HP has good support, but specific recommendations would be great. The printer part also needs to be laser, not inkjet.
[17:45] <nikomo> I'm moving my parents to Ubuntu on their secondary computer
[17:45] <xangua> !printer | nikomo
[17:45] <nikomo> Aware of that, but personal recommendations always trump catch-all wiki pages, if anyone has recommendations.
[17:46] <Chuo> !paste
[17:46] <one23> Is it hard to cleani
[17:47] <cha0z> hello, does the upgrade to 14.04 will affect my full encrypted ubuntu setup?
[17:47] <one23> Is it hard to clean up after Playonlinux?
[17:48] <Chuo> Hey guys I installes gksu to open nautilus as sudo but it gives me an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7285625/ and no idea why the output says dropbox
[17:48] <Tuplad> about to do a clean install, only saving /home and /media ... running ubuntu 12 LTS, is there anything I should backup in / ?
[17:48] <sevauk2> test
[17:48] <DX099> hello, has anyone encountered nm-connection-editor bug where it SIGSEGV whenever you try to import an openvpn config file ?
[17:51] <basketball> how do you uninstall a program from terminal
[17:51] <basketball> never mind
[17:51] <deekej> sudo apt-get remove <program-name>
[17:52] <Judas-> how do I tell which version of ubuntu I'm running from a terminal?
[17:52] <gustavo> Hi
[17:52] <gustavo> Hi
[17:52] <DX099> Judas-, lsb_release -rd
[17:53] <basketball> Judas-,  lsb_release -a
[17:53] <j4son> Judas-: cat /etc/lsb-release
[17:53] <j4son> also works
[17:53] <Judas-> ah, natty - thanks :)
[17:53] <gustavo> Hi, I just installed Xubuntu 14.04
[17:53] <rbf> exit
[17:54] <deekej> personally, I'm using: cat /etc/*-release
[17:54] <ndandut> hello sir , can i question?
[17:54] <Fetentone> #ubuntu-it-chat
[17:54] <rbf> quit
[17:55] <kdsebastian> hi guys
[17:55] <kdsebastian> i need help
[17:56] <ndandut> my notebook processor suport 64 bit , but my ram just 2gb. then when i download ubuntu chose 64bit or 32 bit?
[17:56] <fenomen> pizdec kakoj-to
[17:56] <fenomen> russians here?
[17:56] <Judas-> ndandut: I would pick 64 bit
[17:56] <kdsebastian> did anybody tried to install bootrepair by yannubuntu ppa
[17:56] <luca> hello
[17:57] <ndandut> Judas-: my processor amd c-60 , then chose 64bit sir?
[17:58] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Many have what is the issue?
[17:58] <Judas-> ndandut: correct - you should only pick 32 bit if your processor doesn't support it or that you need 32 bit for some compatibility software reason
[17:58] <kdsebastian> i did try to install it using terminal on my freshly installed ubuntu 14.04 but error showing unable to find the app
[17:58] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Did you add the ppa, run a update than try to install?
[17:59] <Beldar> kdsebastian, Notice when I speak to you I start with your nick, nicks can be tab completed.
[17:59] <xangua> kdsebastian: the repositody you mention doesn't have packages candidates for 14.04 https://launchpad.net/~yannubuntu/+archive/boot-repair
[17:59] <ndandut> Judas-: many thanks sir
[17:59] <ndandut> Judas-: im wrong download 32 bit :(
[18:00] <NF19> Hi, I'm back
[18:01] <NF19> Jordan_U: Not sure whatelse to try beyond what boot repair recommended?
[18:02] <Jordan_U> NF19: Can you be at a grub shell and on IRC at the same time (with another machine)?
[18:03] <NF19> nope - I'm using the ethernet/monitor cable from my other PC
[18:04] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[18:05] <popcan> hey can i get some help with my xubuntu desktop environment locking me out of my ubuntu
[18:05] <sixwheeledbeast> hmm, on a similar topic. how can I move minimise/maximise/close? seems apps/metacity is missing in gconf-editor
[18:07] <Jordan_U> NF19: Does just having the external CD drive plugged in with a CD allow Ubuntu to boot, or do you actually need to tell the BIOS to try to boot from CD?
[18:08] <os_> osiù
[18:08] <popcan> i installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu
[18:08] <wolfslord_> I was trying to upgrade from Saucy to Trusty and power went out. Now I can't access the release upgrade tool. How shoul I proceed?
[18:08] <NF19> Jordan_U: with  a CD in it seems to allow ubuntu to boot
[18:08] <Beldar> popcan, The channel help is based in a detailed description of the issue.
[18:08] <minimec> sixwheeledbeast: Happy to see that it works now. ;)
[18:08] <NF19> without instruction
[18:09] <Jordan_U> NF19: Is the CD drive first in the boot order?
[18:09] <NF19> nope
[18:10] <NF19> choice of 3 devices all set to HDD
[18:10] <NF19> HDD 1 is SDA drive
[18:10] <kristenbb> which package is in charge of the placement of the window controls (minimize, maximize, close...) ?
[18:10] <xangua> wolfslord_: I would backup and reinstall
[18:10] <Beldar> kristenbb, what release is this?
[18:10] <kristenbb> Beldar: 14.04
[18:11] <vandorius> anyone knows if ubuntu one is installed in ubuntu studio 14,04?
[18:11] <Jordan_U> Vampire0: Ubuntu One is being discontinued.
[18:11] <wolfslord_> xangua: How can I backup? Never did it.
[18:11] <Vampire0> Jordan_U, so?
[18:13] <kristenbb> Beldar: how does it relate to my question ?
[18:14] <popcan>  i installed xubuntu desktop environment from ubuntu and switched to the xubuntu desktop environment but when i installed ubuntu i set it to auto log in so when i try to swich back to ubuntu it goes strait back to xubuntu
[18:14] <Beldar> kristenbb, dconf-editor I believe I can't find exactly where, we have seen a bug here in changing form left to right the buttons.
[18:14] <kristenbb> Beldar: yes, I filed in a bug, but I am asked what package it belongs to
[18:14] <Beldar> popcan, auto login goes to the last desktop run.
[18:14] <k1l_> kristenbb: file it against unity-tweak-tool if that setting in that tool does not work
[18:15] <kristenbb> Beldar: will it get less attention though ?
[18:15] <lalalala> ?
[18:15] <kristenbb> Beldar: sorry, wrong person
[18:15] <Beldar> heh cool.
[18:15] <kristenbb> k1l_: will it get less attention though ?
[18:15] <NF19> Jordan_U: I'm going to give the boot repair recommendation a try as I can't find anything else to try. If it fails I'll pop back on in a bit.
[18:15] <popcan> beldar it goes strait to xubun‎tu i want to go back to ubuntu
[18:16] <jcstarken> good morning I can not add a repository in software manager +add button is not clickable
[18:16] <k1l_> kristenbb: its not about attention. this is not a casting show. file the bug to that package which didnt act right
[18:16] <Beldar> popcan, turn of auto log, boot to ubuntu and turn it on.
[18:16] <k1l_> kristenbb: if the unity-tweak-tool developer fixes the setting you are fine, or?
[18:17] <phao> I've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?
[18:17] <popcan> beldar how do i turn off auto login from xubuntu
[18:17] <kristenbb> k1l_: yes sure, but if the developer of that tool just has a GUI interface, it's not his fault if the underlying mechanism doesn't work
[18:17] <Beldar> popcan, How, and in what desktop did you turn it on?
[18:17] <popcan> ubuntu
[18:17] <k1l_> kristenbb: then he will tell that in the bug system and will redirect it
[18:18] <popcan> beldar when i installed ubuntu it asked me if i wanted to auto login instead of password
[18:18] <kristenbb> ok
[18:18] <popcan> beldar thats when i made it auto log in
[18:20] <Beldar> popcan, Not sure here, be really careful as to the info you post, your second post reads the opposite of what you say now, as the autolog started in ubuntu.
[18:21] <fballem> good afternoon all.
[18:21] <leuApodo2> hi
[18:21] <leuApodo2> anyone there?
[18:21] <fballem> yup
[18:21] <leurian> yes im here
[18:22] <popcan> beldar i said that i turned ON auto log in from ubuntu BUT i switched to xubuntu desktop environment , sooo now when i try to go back to ubuntu it auto logs me into xubuntu
[18:24] <Beldar> popcan, I can't help you, in the end.
[18:24] <Beldar> someone will though who can
[18:25] <popcan> can someone help me switch to ubuntu desktop environment isntead of xubuntu desktop environment
[18:25] <jcstarken> if you have them both installed you can pick the one you want when you login
[18:26] <popcan> it wont let me
[18:26] <jcstarken> do you have it to auto login
[18:26] <popcan> jcstarken there is a login username called other that lets me switch to ubuntu but my password is supposedly wrong for that one
[18:27] <popcan> jcstarken yes i do have it on auto login
[18:27] <fballem> jcstarken - I read earlier in the thread that popcan did enable auto-login
[18:28] <Beldar> autolgin defaults to the last desktop run, it wont go to ubuntu from xubuntu simple problem
[18:28] <jcstarken> well will have to go into the accounts with admin rights and change  the login in option
[18:28] <Beldar> or xubuntu to ubuntu,
[18:29] <popcan> how do i getr admin rights
[18:29] <popcan> ?
[18:29] <StephenS> sudo ...
[18:29] <StephenS> or su -
[18:29] <StephenS> you need to have perms in sudoers though popcan
[18:30] <jcstarken> if you are doing it from gui then you just have to know the admin password
[18:30] <k1l_> StephenS: no, not su
[18:30] <k1l_> popcan: where do you need admin rights?
[18:30] <popcan> shouldnt i have made the admin password or is it a default password
[18:30] <fballem> Applications->System->Users and Groups
[18:30] <Beldar> popcan, Logout of xubuntu, log into ubuntu, open users, unlock the lock top right and turn off the autologin.
[18:30] <StephenS> if he wants root then yes su
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> popcan  your password doesnt change with the DE
[18:31] <k1l_> popcan: your user already got admin rights
[18:31] <popcan> beldar you are not helping at all please understand the problem first
[18:31] <deekej> if you need to run program under elevated privileges, which has GUI, you can launch it with: gksudo <program-name>
[18:31] <xMopxShell> hey, how would i install a driver for a nvidia 9000 series video card?
[18:31] <k1l_> !sudo | StephenS
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> popcan  logout, switch, login
[18:31] <StephenS> ...
[18:31] <k1l_> StephenS: there is no root on ubuntu. EOD
[18:31] <popcan> monkeydust it wont let me log in to the one that lets me switch it
[18:31] <popcan> it says the password is incorrect
[18:31] <fballem> everyone - there is a gui option within Xubuntu that popcan can use.
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> popcan  what happens when you try?
[18:32] <jcstarken> that is what I was trying to tell him
[18:32] <k1l_> popcan: the password for the nickname is the same on all desktops on on machine
[18:32] <deekej> no root on ubuntu??? o.O
[18:32] <fballem> popcan - couple of questions, if I may
[18:32] <StephenS> k1l_: as user there is no root, but you can gain root perms with sudo
[18:32] <popcan> k1l_ it says otherwise
[18:32] <k1l_> deekej: its login is disabled.
[18:32] <fballem> 1/ You setup Ubuntu first, correct?
[18:32] <popcan> correct
[18:32] <StephenS> and you can sudo into another uses by su - username, and if username is in sudoers with perms: ALL then thats basically user with root perms.
[18:32] <k1l_> StephenS: yes. but please read about sudo. you gave false commands.
[18:33] <fballem> 2/ You know the password that you used when you first setup Ubuntu, correct?
[18:33] <tex83> Recommend a bitcoin miner?
[18:33] <tex83> program, tha tis
[18:33] <popcan> correct
[18:33] <popcan> i know the password
[18:33] <deekej> k1l_: ah, i see (I'm not using pure ubuntu, therefore I didn't know...)
[18:33] <fballem> 3/ You are currently logged into Xubuntu, correct?
[18:33] <popcan> correct
[18:34] <fballem> 4/ Can you locate the following: Applications->System->Users and Groups in the menus.
[18:34] <mjs86> hi, anyone else unable to launch steam on 14.04?
[18:35] <popcan> fballem i casnt find applications but when i find system there is no users
[18:36] <fballem> popcan, Xubuntu has menu options on the top panel - one of the options is Applications.
[18:36] <Beldar> !anyone > mjs86
[18:36] <Beldar> !ask > mjs86
[18:36] <popcan> fballem yes im there
[18:36] <fballem> if you select Applications, you will have another menu - that menu will include System
[18:36] <leuApodo2> hi
[18:37] <fballem> if you select System, you will have another set of options, including Users and Groups.
[18:37] <fballem> select Users and Groups, and you should have a list of users, including yourself.
[18:37] <fballem> please let me know if that is correct.
[18:37] <leurian> how are you?
[18:37] <popcan> all i see after that is task manager and cpu usage ect
[18:38] <fballem> popcan, are you setup on launchpad?
[18:38] <popcan> no
[18:38] <popcan> this is just a desktop environment
[18:38] <sevauk2> test
[18:38] <fballem> do you have a web browser?
[18:39] <popcan> yes
[18:39] <Janusz> Hello. How can I update 14.04 to 14.10?
[18:39] <popcan> i downloaded chromium
[18:39] <Beldar> Janusz, There is not a 14.10
[18:39] <fballem> go to launchpad.net and register. When you have done that, send me a private message in launchpad (my username is the same there as it is here)
[18:39] <Janusz> Beldar, but I would like to test pre-release
[18:40] <fballem> launchpad.net is one of the support channels for ubuntu.
[18:40] <fballem> Janusz - looking to break stuff again?
[18:40] <Beldar> Janusz, you have 6 months to do that.
[18:41] <Janusz> fballem, when there will be an option to test 14.10?
[18:41] <fballem> when they build it. I think if you are on the daily build, you will get it when it's done. I think they usually wait about a week or two before switching versions.
[18:42] <xangua> Janusz: ubuntu 14.04 just cam out, calm down
[18:42] <Janusz> xangua, in past there was an option to test even very early build of upcoming release
[18:43] <minimec> Janusz: I think they take a 2 weeks break before they merge the debian experimental branch and start over again.
[18:43] <fballem> popcorn, are you still there.
[18:43] <popcan> yes
[18:43] <popcan> im logged into launchpad
[18:43] <popcan> were do i go now
[18:44] <Janusz> minimec, So, You think that in beginning of May there may be an option to test 14.10, or it will take place later?
[18:44] <popcan> fballem
[18:44] <fballem> yes
[18:44] <popcan> ^^^^^
[18:44] <fballem> sorry, my launchpad name is flavelle.ballem
[18:44] <OerHeks> Janusz, best thing to do is joining #ubuntu+1, this channel is for next release support
[18:45] <popcan> were do i go to start a privet massage
[18:45] <fballem> there is an option to search for a user. Once you find me, there is an option to contact this user.
[18:45] <fballem> have you registered on launchpad?
[18:45] <Janusz> OerHeks, constructive advice. TU
[18:45] <minimec> Janusz: That is exactly what I think. ;)
[18:46] <phao> I've installed bunblebee. How do I check which drivers are active?
[18:46] <OerHeks> there is no !14.10 factoid yet.
[18:47] <popcan> i sent it fballem
[18:47] <minimec> Janusz: You can always check the release schedule here... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseSchedule
[18:48] <Janusz> minimec, constructive advice. TU
[18:48] <ztane> how to get the damned trayicons whitelisted on trusty?
[18:48] <MonkeyDust> 14.10 does not even have a name yet
[18:49] <popcan> fballem
[18:49] <tieinv> g!0@r#D$oN
[18:50] <gustavo> Hi
[18:50] <gustavo> I have installed Xubuntu 14.04 Trusty Turd
[18:50] <gustavo> And it runs good!!!
[18:51] <Judas-> hmm, I just dist-upgraded a maverick (1865.02) ubuntu all the way up to 12.04 LTS and now it says there are no never versions, but according to topic here there's a 14.04 version too?
[18:51] <xMopxShell> hey guys, i have 3 screens powered by 2 video cards. i can't drag windows from the 2 screens to the third??
[18:54] <minimec> xMopxShell: Are they all visible in the 'Display' GUI? what does xrandr give you as output in a terminal?
[18:54] <gustavo> Hi
[18:54] <gustavo> is any one there???
[18:54] <gareppa> lol
[18:54] <DJones> gustavo: Please use the correct name
[18:54] <chkif> hi
[18:54] <fballem> popcan - check your e-mail.
[18:54] <basketballl> how do i set up google public dns from gui settings
[18:54] <xMopxShell> minimec: display gui or nvidia settings?
[18:55] <Slart> Judas-: yes, there is a 14.04 LTS version out.. not sure why you're not seeing it.. you've updated all the repos and such?
[18:55] <minimec> xMopxShell: In your case nvidia settings, if you use the nvidia restricted driver.
[18:55] <xMopxShell> yeah, theyre all visible. ill get xrandr output..
[18:56] <minimec> xMopxShell: So xrandr wount give you some info either I guess.
[18:56] <xMopxShell> minimec: http://pastebin.com/KmhzGGt2
[18:57] <alberbeltz> hey
[18:57] <alberbeltz> hey¿
[18:57] <jastich> hey
[18:57] <alberbeltz> where are u from?
[18:57] <jastich> Milwaukee, USA
[18:57] <phao> hey... how do I find out if a particular application is running on top of my intel video card or my nvidia video cad?
[18:57] <phao> card*
[18:58] <kupo_> Where to get 14.04 PPA's?
[18:58] <kupo_> Or do trustys still work
[18:58] <ztane> phao: if you have the optimus then most probably intel :P
[18:58] <minimec> xMopxShell: I guess that's the internal GPU of your (probably) Intel i3/5/7 CPU.
[18:58] <donc3> Hi!
[18:58] <kupo_> saucy i mean
[18:59] <donc3> I have installed ubuntu 14.04, a clean installation
[18:59] <xMopxShell> minimec: i have the internal GPU from my CPU disabled via the bios.
[18:59] <donc3> but my usb 3.0 doesn't work on this port. only in the usb 2.0 port
[18:59] <Judas-> slart: I think so - it is hitting de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu according to the sources.list
[18:59] <fballem> Popcorn - are you still here?
[18:59] <donc3> could you help me??
[18:59] <k1l_> kupo_: ask the ppa maintainer to upload 14.04 packages to their ppa
[18:59] <DJones> kupo_: You'#ll get them from the same place you got the earlier release's, but, whoever created the ppa you used may not have got round to making one for 14.04 or may have abandoned their project
[19:00] <kupo_> so eventually they'll  just show up in launchpad most likely?
[19:01] <phao> ztane, lshw shows both drivers...
[19:01] <Slart> Judas-: well.. not sure what to suggest then.. sorry
[19:01] <phao> ztane, how do make an app run with the nvidia card?
[19:01] <Judas-> maybe I should try change precise to whatever 14.04 is called manually
[19:02] <donc3> nobody know about my problem??
[19:02] <k1l_> !ppa | kupo_ see the list there for PPAs
[19:02] <OSaddict> Anyone know of any Linux games with very intense, high-powered 3d graphics?
[19:02] <kupo_> ok. thanks
[19:02] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  sudo do-release-upgrade -d    works, but it takes at least 2 hours and you must stay present to confirm some changes
[19:02] <OSaddict> My friend says Linux is not capable of such things.
[19:02] <xMopxShell> minecraft
[19:02] <xMopxShell> lol
[19:02] <OSaddict> And I want to prove him wrong.
[19:02] <basketball> when i boot my laptop it boots to a black command line that says ttyl
[19:03] <ztane> phao: i had the optimus chipset, it basically never uses nvidia unless you do tricks
[19:03] <minimec> xMopxShell: Ok... Somehow two monitors DVI-I-2 and DVI-I-3 are seen and handled by xrandr, but not the third one.
[19:03] <fballem> 0Saddict - do you use Steam in Windows?
[19:03] <OSaddict> Yes.
[19:03] <liquidee> you can kill your comp with minecraft plus all those texture packs and mods
[19:03] <xMopxShell> minimec: i dont even know what that means :)
[19:03] <OSaddict> Besides minecraft.
[19:03] <MonkeyDust> OSaddict  there's also #ubuntu-steam
[19:03] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: tf2
[19:03] <fballem> many of those games have been ported to Steam in Linux - which does run in Ubuntu.
[19:03] <Slart> OSaddict: there's left 4 dead 2, Metro 2033... not sure what else
[19:03] <liquidee> l4d2
[19:03] <minimec> xMopxShell: They should show up in the 'Display' GUI (not nvidia-settings)
[19:04] <liquidee> do you want to stress test your hardware or what
[19:04] <basketballl> anyone
[19:04] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: ok trying with the -d option then - here goes nothing.. :)
[19:04] <xMopxShell> minimec: i dont think i even have that
[19:04] <Slart> OSaddict: not that I'd call that top of the line graphics.. but still
[19:04] <Slart> OSaddict: or you can run that benchmark.. with the floating islands.. can't remember the name at the moment
[19:04] <OSaddict> Something along the lines of BF4
[19:04] <ooxi> hi how can i change the sidebar in nautilus (14.04) from places to tree like it was possible in 12.04?
[19:04] <fballem> 0Saddict - do a google search for Steam and Linux.
[19:04] <fballem> you will get some more information there.
[19:05] <xMopxShell> minimec: ive got nvidia settings and arandr
[19:05] <liquidee> its heaven benchmark
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  let me know if it works for you too
[19:05] <fballem> popcorn
[19:05] <minimec> xMopxShell: Check the system settings... -> gnome-control-center in unity or gnome-shell
[19:05] <donc3> this is what it shows me the output of dmesg | grep usb http://paste.ubuntu.com/7286114/
[19:05] <fballem> are you still here?
[19:05] <liquidee> OSaddict: i dont think you will get something like this working on linux well
[19:05] <xMopxShell> minimec: i have nothing related to unity or gnome.
[19:06] <Slart> OSaddict: this was the benchmark I was looking for http://unigine.com/products/heaven/
[19:06] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: so far it seems to have started the upgrade
[19:07] <minimec> xMopxShell: We are talking about the default system settings gui of a gnome based desktop manager. You should have that. It's installed per default.
[19:07] <OSaddict> I've got a high-powered comp. I just want to demonstrate some intense 3d gaming on Linux.
[19:07] <xMopxShell> minimec: ive removed it to use the LXDE window manager.
[19:07] <fballem> 0Saddict - best to checkout Steam for Linux and go from there.
[19:08] <xMopxShell> arandr "is" the default monitor gui.
[19:08] <Slart> OSaddict: yup, agree with fballem.. go with steam
[19:08] <fballem> 0Saddict - what type of graphics card do you have in your system?
[19:09] <okay19> I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."
[19:10] <leuApodo2> hi
[19:10] <hhh_> when i turn on my laptop it boots to a black terminal that says tty1
[19:10] <kupo_> sudo launchpad-getkeys doesnt work in 14.04 yet it seems.
[19:11] <minimec> xMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions#Which_tool_is_used_for_configuring_screen_resolution_in_LXDE.3F
[19:11] <MonkeyDust> !games | OSaddict
[19:11] <minimec> xMopxShell: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXRandr
[19:11] <xMopxShell> minimec: Lxrandr only supports mirroring. which is why i have arandr.
[19:12] <xMopxShell> minimec: which looks like this: http://i.imgur.com/5XQYjO8.png
[19:12] <minimec> xMopxShell: So you configured your xrandr for two screens only and were successfull at least for these two...
[19:14] <xMopxShell> minimec: lxrander lists only the 2 screens that arandr shows as well.
[19:14] <Pushy> hi guys
[19:14] <xMopxShell> minimec: i think the 3rd screen is in a separate x session…?
[19:14] <Pushy> ubuntu on SSD works nice
[19:14] <Pushy> very fast.
[19:14] <Pushy> i got the samsung evo 240GB...fast shlt
[19:14] <phao> Hi. I've installed bumblebee and when I try to "optrun firefox" I get http://pastie.org/9093946 ... any clues on how I fix it? I can post more info of course... but idk what to post. This is ubuntu 14.04
[19:15] <minimec> xMopxShell: You would then have to login seperately to that session
[19:15] <Pushy> hi phao
[19:15] <phao> Pushy, heya
[19:15] <xMopxShell> minimec: thats not an option. it should work as a normal screen.
[19:15] <Pushy> okie
[19:16] <Pushy> hey guys, any improvement on 14.04?
[19:16] <xMopxShell> minimec: i can move my cursor to the other screen. but not windows, and theres not another way to login?
[19:16] <Pushy> i've been updating it but i have no  idea why so
[19:17] <kostkon> Pushy, http://www.techdrivein.com/2014/04/15-ubuntu-1404-lts-new-features-changes.html
[19:17] <leuApodo2> hi
[19:17]  * leuApodo2 jumps
[19:17] <Pushy> kostkon, come on man, all improvement on sound wall paper , background and shlt like that/
[19:18] <Pushy> you got to be kidding me
[19:18] <kostkon> Pushy, don't use it then
[19:18] <Pushy> kostkon, more like the look.
[19:18] <Pushy> hmm
[19:18]  * leuApodo2 everything ok?
[19:18] <okay19> I just upgraded to 14.04, and it appears that GRUB was broken. I get dropped into the rescue prompt with the message "error: symbol 'grub_term_highlight_color' not found."
[19:18] <Pushy> who care about the appearance...so basically nothing really new
[19:18] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:19] <minimec> xMopxShell: Do you have the restricted nvidia driver installed? I you removed that once? Check /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log once to see what driver you use. The opensource driver would be 'nouveau' for a nvidia card.
[19:19] <sharefree> is new linux low on ram
[19:19] <kupo_> there is more new than ou think
[19:19] <kupo_> i don't use unity though. xubuntu master race
[19:19] <Pushy> kostkon, they should improve technical shlt...not just the appearance
[19:19] <xMopxShell> minimec: would nouveau be the one that's enabled by default?
[19:20] <minimec> xMopxShell: for nvidia yes.
[19:20] <xMopxShell> minimec: that one did not allow me to use the 3rd screen entirely.
[19:20] <minimec> xMopxShell: I guess you are using it at leaast for the GPU with the 'working monitors'
[19:21] <kostkon> Pushy, they did, e.g. http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/docker-in-ubuntu-ubuntu-in-docker.html
[19:21] <xMopxShell> minimec: if i remove the nvidia restricted driver, the 3d screen doesn't power on.
[19:22] <OSaddict> Alright, Left 4 Dead 2, it is!
[19:22] <leurian> hi all
[19:22] <leurian> leurian how are you?
[19:22] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"
[19:22] <minimec> xMopxShell: Maybe you have to activate it in arandr.
[19:22] <xMopxShell> minimec: how? it's not listed.
[19:23] <Senza> Hey
[19:23] <OSaddict> I read somewhere that some of the Linux Steam games use a native port of DirectX. Is that true?
[19:23] <leurian> leurian hi all
[19:23] <Senza> Guys, iḿ new to Linux.. Anyone has any tips for me?
[19:23] <volkan> Hey, After restart by brightness level is not the previous value. How can I fix this problem?
[19:23] <kostkon> OSaddict, no. They use opengl
[19:24] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  yes, i guess it's harmless, fonts or so
[19:24] <okay19> Senza: Learn basic terminal commands. You'll get some stuff done faster in the terminal than with a GUI.
[19:24] <Slart> volkan: is this on a laptop?
[19:24] <Senza> Do you have a good website or something to learn the basics? :)
[19:25] <OSaddict> Senza: Don't be afraid of the command line.
[19:25] <MHodge> The command line if your friend. :)
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Senza  click here and there, see what's where, what it does, how it's called etc
[19:25] <Judas-> MonkeyDust: besides this it seems to be running some form of 14.04 LTS now :)
[19:25] <Judas-> and yes, seemed to be mostly something latex thai stuff and such
[19:25] <okay19> Senza: I don't. But google "linux terminal basics" to find some helpful pages.
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> Judas-  yes, rings a bell ;)
[19:25] <OSaddict> Senza: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html
[19:26] <Senza> Thanks guys, i'm looking forward to my new adventures in Linux
[19:26] <Pushy> how to install .bundle ?
[19:26] <minimec> xMopxShell: So the 2nd GPU is not well supported by randr. Other way would be to run them all with the restricted driver, but I have no experience with two GPU's. I have a dual monitor setup with a Intel i5 internal GPU.
[19:26] <Pushy> with commandline ?
[19:26] <bekks> Pushy: Whats ".bundle"?
[19:26] <OSaddict> Senza: And Linux software is handled in packages. Some packages depend on others, which depend on others.
[19:26] <xMopxShell> minimec: how is it that an 8 year old, very common GPU, isn't supported?
[19:27] <Senza> Yeah i knew about that, was also planning on setting up a test-network whitin Linux Red Hat servers (Domain Controller, File Server and stuff)
[19:27] <Senza> I'm studieing System engineer and i feel ashamed that i know NOTHING about Linux...
[19:27] <willwh> xMopxShell: probably due to poor driver support for a gpu
[19:27] <minimec> xMopxShell: You're right. That should work.
[19:27] <isaacdownlow> is there any easy way to get notify-send to respect timeout values? I'm aware that notify-osd has deliberately decided to ignore such timeouts, but I really need the ability to change display timeouts!
[19:28] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, notify-osd ignores them yeah
[19:28] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, by design
[19:28] <Maked_One> So my Hardrive has been chugging away for awhile now and I have nothing but this IRC open [was doing it before IRC also] any idea of a GUI i can use to tell me what's causing it?
[19:29] <isaacdownlow> kostkon: is there any notify-osd alternative that I could plug notify-send into for special cases? I don't think it's a good idea to completely get rid of notify-osd (I'm assuming it's been well designed for most stuff), but I'd like to be able to pop a notification with a timeout in a very specific case
[19:29] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: Do you use nVidia?
[19:29] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: yes, both cards
[19:29] <kostkon> isaacdownlow, there are some, search in the repos
[19:30] <xMopxShell> right now im trying removing nouveau entirely
[19:30] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:30] <minimec> xMopxShell: DOn't do that!
[19:30] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: nVidia is a nightmare on Linux. Very hit-and-miss. You should try both the open-source drivers and nVidia's own drivers.
[19:30] <rypervenche> xMopxShell: If your nvidia drivers screw up, nouveau is what you will use while you're troubleshooting it.
[19:31] <fr00p> hi
[19:31] <xMopxShell> ah. how should i use the restricted driver for all present gpus/
[19:31] <fr00p> is it possible to install pidgin-otr?
[19:31] <xMopxShell> ?*
[19:31] <okay19> I've been having an issue with GRUB since I updated. I get the rescue prompt on boot.
[19:32] <OSaddict> okay19: Boot up your live CD and run: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[19:32] <sharefree> is new ubuntu highly optimized ?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> sharefree  meaning?
[19:32] <trism> isaacdownlow: the notification daemon needs to own org.freedesktop.Notifications on dbus so you can't really have two running at a time
[19:33] <Beldar> OSaddict, That will not work, and you do not know it is sda.
[19:33] <okay19> OSaddict: I'm using EFI, and grub-install refuses to run.
[19:33] <okay19> OSaddict: But it actually is sda.
[19:33] <AStorm> xMopxShell, what does that mean?
[19:33] <OSaddict> okay19: Assuming that your hard disk is called sda. If you've got a legacy IDE drive, it's hda.
[19:33] <AStorm> there are restricted drivers only for AMD and Nvidia GPUs (and some other rare ones)
[19:34] <xMopxShell> AStorm: minimec suggested running both cards with the restricted driver, instead of nouveau.
[19:34] <AStorm> most machines now have an additional iGPU
[19:34] <AStorm> which cards?
[19:34] <xMopxShell> 9400 GS and GTX 560 Ti
[19:34] <macscam1> i cant enter #ubuntu+1 because it's invite only ... can anyone help with the issue of changing volume in 14.10 skipps the audio
[19:34] <xMopxShell> both nvidia.
[19:34] <AStorm> 9400 GS won't work with new nvidia-driver I think
[19:34] <Multbrelch> Hi all. Problem in 14.04 64Bit on HP EliteBook 2170p: The brightness toggle does not work. This didn't work: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136133&p=12606489#post12606489
[19:34] <AStorm> but it's worth a shot
[19:34] <xMopxShell> what does that mean?
[19:34] <AStorm> it's *old*
[19:35] <okay19> OSaddict: I can use a live CD to get a GRUB command line, and then use the configfile command to load the boot menu.
[19:35] <OSaddict> okay19: try this: grub-install /dev/sda --target=x86_64-efi --efi-directory=/boot/efi --recheck --debug
[19:35] <xMopxShell> AStorm: installing nvidia-331 is the only way ive gotten the 9400GS to even power on it's monitor
[19:35] <sharefree> MonkeyDust, meaning ubuntu can bear old shitty hardware now
[19:35] <orogor> hi
[19:35] <okay19> OSaddict: What does the --debug switch do?
[19:36] <Pushy> bombshell
[19:36] <orogor> is it just me or the ubuntu mirror are overloaded ?
[19:36] <isaacdownlow> trism: bah humbug
[19:36] <zsw__> helllo i have lost my password and i have tryed all tactacs exept one. and i need someones help with that.
[19:36] <OerHeks> orogor, yes, mirrors are smokin' due the new release
[19:36] <Multbrelch> Any idea? under 13.10 it worked out of the box
[19:36] <minimec>  xMopxShell the 9400GS is only supported with the nouveau driver, while the GTX560 only seems to work with the restricted driver right now, as it looks. bad situation...
[19:36] <bekks> !password | zsw__
[19:37] <OSaddict> I use it all the time, in case sth goes wrong, I might be able to work out the problem.
[19:37] <xMopxShell> minimec: windows and OSX have no problem using both. Why not ubuntu?
[19:37] <kostkon> message is a fake
[19:37] <volkan> Transmission does not download anything. Does anyone have the same problem?
[19:37] <orogor> nobody switched to apt-p2p  ?
[19:37] <vik1> i cant make update in update manager
[19:37] <zsw__> i have allredy tryed that multipul times
[19:37] <Pushy> donation
[19:37] <OerHeks> volkan, depends on the source of your download
[19:37] <kostkon> Pushy, it's fake
[19:37] <vik1> i click install update . and it keeps waiting . dosent download anything
[19:38] <minimec> xMopxShell: Blame nvidia for it. If that company would share the knowledge with the community, they would run... ;)
[19:38] <OerHeks> volkan, and location ( some ISP block torrents)
[19:38] <volkan> OerHeks, I tried different sources.
[19:38] <dw1> does canonical run freenode?  didnt know
[19:38] <aslaen> Hello, I'm having trouble with cobbler on ubuntu 12.04. I am running into bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cobbler/+bug/1000219
[19:38] <xMopxShell> minimec:  so it sounds like it's impossible to use both cards under ubuntu?
[19:38] <bekks> dw1: It doesnt.
[19:38] <DalekSec> dw1: It's a fake.
[19:38] <Pushy> if my hard drive copy at write rate of 75MegaByte/s  what would it be in Mega Bits?
[19:38] <MHodge> Just for reference, what's your ISP?
[19:38] <dw1> bekks: ah k
[19:38] <AStorm> dw1, that's just a notice, anyone can send it
[19:38] <dw1> DalekSec: yea figured that, just wondered if it was semi accurate
[19:39] <Pushy> anyone is going for a spin?
[19:39] <Multbrelch> I try this now: http://askubuntu.com/questions/450437/ubuntu-14-04-brightness-problem-in-hp-hybrid-laptop see you later
[19:39] <AStorm> dw1, the K-line right afterwards is a dead giveaway (all puns intended)
[19:39] <OSaddict> volkan: Torrents vary in speed. I took me 4 hours jut to download the crunchbang iso!
[19:39] <dw1> AStorm: yeah
[19:39] <aslaen> I've already tried changing $suite to precise, but I get this error "mirror does not have any suite symlinks"
[19:39] <aslaen> I also get release precise not found.
[19:39] <aslaen> Can anyone help me out?
[19:40] <macscam1> anybody know how to make a custom folder icon? like i have an image, need to get it to icon format
[19:40] <zsw__> so what i did is i downloaded ubuntu 14.04 just now and someone told me if i delete the hash for my pass that i could axscces my account without a pass
[19:40] <OSaddict> macscam1: You mean for a specific folder?
[19:40] <dougstew33>  G
[19:41] <macscam1> OSaddict yea
[19:41] <dw1> zsw__: is your home folder encrypted?
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: if not, just boot into repair prompt and run passwd <user> as root
[19:42] <zsw__> multbrech, nice jesture but no
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: or ctrl-alt-f1 from login screen, alt-f7 to get back
[19:42] <OSaddict> macscam1: Just click the big folder icon in "Properties"
[19:42] <dw1> zsw__: if you can login there......
[19:43] <minimec> xMopxShell: That I cannot tell you for sure, as I don't have experience with nvidia anymore. I used to have one but right now I stick with my internal GPU. And if you activated the internal Intel GPU and used it with the GTX560?
[19:43] <OSaddict> macscam1: PNG format is the one that's always used. IDK if others would work also.
[19:43] <zsw__> really,dwl i have no idea
[19:43] <macscam1> OSaddict surprisingly simple thanks
[19:44] <zsw__> give me a sec
[19:44] <phao> if I run an application with optirun, it'll necessarily use my nvidia driver, right?
[19:44] <ntviet18> hi
[19:44] <xMopxShell> minimec: id rather not, the internal GPU isn't set up for windows / OSX on the same hardware, and i'd rather not need to change plugs every time i boot to a different partition.
[19:45] <minimec> xMopxShell: I see...
[19:45] <xMopxShell> minimec: thanks for the help so far though. i think ubuntu just wont work for me at present.
[19:46] <OSaddict> xMopxShell: Try a different version.
[19:46] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: of the nvidia driver?
[19:46] <minimec> xMopxShell: You could search on the internet whether there is some experimental support of the gtx560 with the nouveau driver. That might be a solution. I guess the official 14.04 only ships a stable driver, not an experimental one.
[19:46] <OSaddict> I've had computers that couldn't run 13.10, but could run 12.04.
[19:47] <babyswizz> any proper documentation on the ubuntu terminal commands anywhere?
[19:47] <xMopxShell> OSaddict: ah. i think that would only have to do with what is enabled on the distro by default…
[19:47] <rypervenche> babyswizz: Are you new to Linux?
[19:49] <babyswizz> rypervenche: yes I am and I am trying to use the Unix programmer's manual but I think there are some difference in the command described there
[19:49] <tim_> hi
[19:49] <rypervenche> babyswizz: I've always found this useful: http://www.linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[19:50] <OSaddict> babyswizz: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Bash-Beginners-Guide/html/Bash-Beginners-Guide.html is a good one also.
[19:50] <tim_> hi guys
[19:50] <tim_>  
[19:51] <Guest84117> hi
[19:51] <tim_> how are u guys
[19:51] <Guest84117> <<- fine
[19:51] <tim_> first time with irssi
[19:52] <Multbrelch> I'm back - help: I triedd "GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"" but it didn't help. I removed the line in grub and NOW unity is not working. What shall I do?
[19:52] <babyswizz> thanks guys
[19:53] <zsw_> im back
[19:53] <tim_> how i get a list of all channels
[19:53] <tim_>  
[19:53] <kostkon> !alis | tim_
[19:53] <zsw_> hello
[19:53] <qin> Multbrelch: how have you edited grub entry?
[19:54] <Multbrelch> qin, yes
[19:54] <qin> how?
[19:54] <Multbrelch> and then update-grup
[19:54] <Multbrelch> how? with nano ...
[19:54] <tim_> !alis
[19:54] <Jorky> helou
[19:54] <Jorky> faggots
[19:55] <qin> Multbrelch: you can edit grub from boot to and you should have line GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT= with some values
[19:55] <zsw_> if i use ubuntu 14.04iso can i delete password hash somehow?
[19:56] <Multbrelch> qin, mom
[19:56] <bekks> zsw_: usermod
[19:56] <zsw_> bekks, ???
[19:56] <bekks> zsw_: thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash
[19:57] <zsw_> good but how,bekks
[19:57] <a7i3n> In 14.04 Canonical has apparently forked gnome-settings-daemon to somethiing else. Any idea what it might be?
[19:57] <bekks> zsw_: "thats the tool do disable the user account which effectively deletes the password hash".
[19:57] <CosmoX> ..
[19:58] <kostkon> a7i3n, http://iloveubuntu.net/ubuntu-developers-registered-unity-control-center-launchpad-fork-gnome-control-center-so-we-can
[19:58] <trism> a7i3n: unity-settings-daemon
[19:58] <zsw_> what,how,and most of all where,bekks
[19:58] <bekks> zsw_: What exactly are you trying to do, and why?
[19:58] <hhh_> is there a way to make a live cd where when i install buuntu it automatically installs my apps liek dropbox and gimp runs commands like to add b43 driver
[19:58] <Multbrelch> qin, yes I have now: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash "
[19:58] <Multbrelch> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX=""
[19:58] <Multbrelch>  
[19:58] <a7i3n> Thanks for the help all you folks
[19:58] <zsw_> i lost my account password
[19:59] <TheVampist> I'm having some issues with my Y500 dual booting windows 7 and ubuntu.
[19:59] <kostkon> zsw_, are you trying to reset/recover your password?
[19:59] <Multbrelch> qin, in directory "/etc/default"
[19:59] <zsw_> recover
[19:59] <kostkon> zsw_, not possible but you can reset it
[19:59] <Multbrelch> Why is Unity not working now? .... ??
[20:00] <kostkon> zsw_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:00] <zsw_> how?
[20:00] <kostkon> zsw_, easy to follow how-to ^^
[20:00] <ultimo> ciao
[20:00] <liquidee> zsw_: you can boot from live cd and change /etc/passwd
[20:00] <ultimo> !list
[20:00] <liquidee> zsw_: but i guess the link is better
[20:00] <zsw_> i have tryed that method several times and the live disk was what i was talking about
[20:01] <Multbrelch> qin, remember: before I have changed the line to: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:01] <Multbrelch> with following update-grub
[20:01] <zsw_> how would i boot from live disk ,bekks
[20:02] <bekks> zsw_: Insert it, boot it.
[20:02] <zsw_> i no have disk but i alredy download iso
[20:02] <sixwheeledbeast> ah, found it kristenbb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/174292/how-can-i-move-all-the-window-controls-to-the-right-or-left
[20:02] <bekks> zsw_: Then burn that iso to a disk.
[20:02] <liquidee> zsw_: you got a pendrive to use?
[20:03] <zsw_> can i use stick?
[20:03] <liquidee> zsw_: you can use UNetBootin which will download the iso for you and install it to the usb stick
[20:03] <liquidee> zsw_: which you can then boot
[20:03] <zsw_> ok walk me through it?
[20:03] <bekks> !usb | zsw
[20:03] <qin> Multbrelch: well you can change to "noquiet nosplash" to see err, you can do it via grub menu (hold shift and press e to edit)
[20:03] <zsw_> please. i linux noob :)
[20:04] <Multbrelch> qin, thx for your kind help. - Ive seen that under 13.10 I have GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[20:04] <Multbrelch> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="persistent"
[20:04] <a7i3n> Anyone have an idea how I could load the unity keybindings to my i3wm settings? Current string does not work: exec --no-startup-id unity-settings-daemon
[20:04] <Multbrelch> I try this now, cu later
[20:04] <liquidee> zsw_: follow the instructions in the link that ubottu gave you first
[20:05] <liquidee> zsw_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick
[20:06] <minimec> a7i3n: There is a tool calles xbindkeys that would allow you to setup all the shortcuts you want. just start it when using i3wm.
[20:08] <adam_____> trying to upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.. erroring out. where can I see the logs of what went wrong?
[20:08] <keevitaja> if i need to reinstall my windows will it overwrite grup?
[20:08] <keevitaja> grub(
[20:08] <qin> keevitaja: yes
[20:09] <qin> !grub
[20:10] <Multbrelch> qin, it didn't work. Unity is not working, no side bar etc. Here is my grub file: http://www.pasteall.org/50946
[20:10] <Multbrelch> latest grub file
[20:10] <Beldar> keevitaja, Grub is easy to deal with, you can image/clone a working windows install and just reload it if needed.
[20:10] <adam_____> getting a lot of "Err http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com saucy-updates/universe Translation-en_CA                                             "
[20:11] <adam_____> "[20:12] <qin> Multbrelch: you could adduser sometestuser and see "his" unity works, also vendor flag may need to be removed.
[20:13] <qin> not sure how backlight would affect unity tho.
[20:14] <Multbrelch> u ask me, qin .... :-) ALL THIS IS QUITE STRANGE
[20:14] <Multbrelch> I will try in 15min
[20:17] <yakc> let's say I have 4 horizontal workspaces and i want to switch between them with on key shortcut. is it possible to make it switch back to the first after 4th or do I need to make another key to go back on it. I know you can use arrow keys but I'm just curious.
[20:17] <yakc> one key not on key
[20:19] <Multbrelch> qin, what do u mean by "vendor flag"?
[20:20] <qin> Multbrelch: "acpi_backlight=vendor" unless it does its work it is only think which may affect something
[20:22] <Multbrelch> qin, I tried with GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash" only but after update-grub Unity does not show the side bar etc.
[20:23] <minimec>  yakc: It is possible to switch through all desktops and go from 4 -> 1. I don't remember if you can use ubuntu-tweak or if you need the compiz-config-settings-manager. One key shortcut should be possible too, but you might 'loose' the <ctrl><alt>arrow shortcut...
[20:24] <yakc> okay, i'll take another look then. thank you
[20:26] <qin> Multbrelch: there is kinda new help page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Debugging/Backlight
[20:26] <sixwheeledbeast> I find it easier using the scroll wheel in the desktop switcher
[20:27] <Multbrelch> qin, yep I found that too but how do I get Unity back first, with default values from installation?
[20:28] <wafflejock_> Multbrelch: should probably search distro specific but something like this should work http://askubuntu.com/questions/95458/how-do-i-reinstall-unity
[20:29] <kostkon> Multbrelch, also try this http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[20:29] <wafflejock_> Multbrelch: do a lsb_release -a to get your exact distro
[20:30] <nosmelc> I'm trying to mount a Windows file share.  It works if I just edit fstab, but I want to make it work with my log in user name and password by using libpam_mount.  Any ideas what's wrong?  I used the MountWindowsSharesPermanently guide
[20:30] <wafflejock_> oh huh I actually commented on that SO post :P
[20:30] <Multbrelch> wafflejock_, and kostkon I will try, thanks for your advices
[20:31] <Multbrelch> I will let you know later
[20:32] <holstein> nosmelc: you just want persistent samba mounting.. try gigolo
[20:35] <ximal> Hello. I am in need of assistance installing xfce please ? What do I type in terminal to install the desktop environment xtfce ?
[20:36] <adam_____> Still can't upgrade to 14.04.. anyone care to help me?
[20:36] <zsw_> i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:37] <dioioib> I'm going to install 14.04 in a VM first before I do an install on my hardware.
[20:37] <dioioib> adam____: are you setting up server or desktop
[20:37] <adam_____> desktop
[20:37] <adam_____> want to upgrade this laptop from 13.10 to 14.04
[20:37] <dioioib> are you having issues?
[20:37] <zsw_> i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:37] <adam_____> yup
[20:37] <xangua> ximal: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:37] <qin> ximal: And what Ubuntu do you run?
[20:38] <adam_____> getting "[20:38] <ximal> I just installed the latest version
[20:38] <dioioib> is that using the ubuntu package manager?
[20:38] <adam_____> this is using "sudo do-release-upgrade" from command line
[20:38] <zsw_> hello?
[20:38] <ximal> i am running the default version qin
[20:38] <adam_____> either way it doesn't work
[20:39] <k1l_> adam_____: what does it say before that line?
[20:39] <adam_____> have to run it again
[20:39] <adam_____> 1 sec
[20:39] <qin> ximal: Much more sensible is to download Xubuntu and try/install it, or as xangua shown you, you can migrate
[20:39] <ximal> i just set the terminal ... i don't have the time to spend redownloading... not worried.. take but a few moments
[20:39] <adam_____> it goes through getting all the sources
[20:40] <adam_____> errs on all the en_CA translations
[20:40] <adam_____> as expected
[20:40] <adam_____> Canadian english is fine to default to just en
[20:40] <adam_____> for localization
[20:40] <dioioib> another canuck? sweet. :)
[20:40] <zsw_> anyone there?
[20:40] <adam_____> yup
[20:41] <adam_____> it says "could not calculate the upgrade"
[20:41] <adam_____> "An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade."
[20:42] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/1TdrGSx0
[20:42] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:42] <adam_____> I'm thinking it's unofficial packages.. how can I get a list of those and disable them for the upgrade then re-enable them?
[20:43] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:43] <k1l_> adam_____: please show "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" in a pastebin
[20:44] <adam_____> could this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/202730/how-to-fix-the-unable-to-calculate-upgrade-issue-when-upgrading-from-12-04-to
[20:44] <dioioib> k1l_: are you thinking he just doesn't have the repo in his list?
[20:44] <k1l_> dioioib: maybe he got some 3rd party repo there
[20:45] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error
[20:45] <mrjester> I am looking for the 14.04 alternative install images.  Are they just not available yet or has something changed?
[20:45] <k1l_> adam_____: after that please show "ls -al /etc/apt/sources.list.d"
[20:45] <k1l_> mrjester: there are no alternate anymore. use the minimal
[20:45] <dioioib> mrjester: what platform?
[20:45] <mrjester> x64  Trying to do an OEM install.
[20:46] <dioioib> wasn't that like in 12 they removes PPC.
[20:46] <zsw_>  i tried useing recovery mode to recover my password but it just says minapulation error. anyone
[20:46] <newvista> I'm unable to update using synaptic package manager, says failed to reach ubuntu server. Anyone else having this problem?
[20:47] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/otRf3Hxy
[20:47] <mrjester> k1l_: Thanks.
[20:47] <adam_____> had to grep out the commented out lines
[20:47] <MHodge> newvista, have you tried reconnecting to the internet just to check?
[20:47] <adam_____> k1l_: does that help?
[20:48] <newvista> firefox is working fine. anything else to try?
[20:48] <MHodge> Did Synaptic come packaged?
[20:48] <k1l_> adam_____: no the other command please. that will list the PPAs
[20:49] <MHodge> Or did you download it?
[20:49] <k1l_> MHodge: synaptic is not in the ubuntu standard install anymore. but you can install it if you want
[20:49] <MHodge> Oh, in that case, you can try reinstalling. :)
[20:49] <Simplecpm> Hey, my copy of 14.04 will not let me open apt links from the Ubuntu website.  Am I missing something?
[20:50] <johnja> I had some sort of hardware failure during upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 leaving my computer in such a state that I don't have a desktop environment.  Unfortunately, I also don't have working network either.  eth0 seems to be missing.  How should I go about getting eth0 back?
[20:50] <Simplecpm> It just gives me an empty application choice list.
[20:50] <dioioib> johnja: can you run starx in terminal
[20:50] <MHodge> Simplecpm, were you able to choose a program to use?
[20:51] <Simplecpm> I was not.
[20:51] <Simplecpm> I'm not sure how to get to the application center from the browse menu.
[20:51] <Guest11067> Hi. I've set up an encrypted swap partition but it is reported as inactive.
[20:51] <barrett> is there a way to check the temperature of your motherboard chipset from the terminal?  without adding physical sensors?
[20:51] <k1l_> dioioib: startx will mess with .xautority file permissions
[20:52] <k1l_> dioioib: use the lightdm instead
[20:52] <dioioib> oh yeah unity right
[20:52] <k1l_> barrett: see lm_sensors
[20:52] <dioioib> I am still running gnome on 13.
[20:52] <johnja> dioioib: I have a login screen at low resulution.  When I put in my password the login doesn't happen.  X is running, but I can't get to a desktop.
[20:52] <k1l_> dioioib: no, ubuntu is meant to start the desktop with a *dm (lightdm in ubuntus case).
[20:52] <dioioib> as k1l_ said you might need to run with lightdm and reintall it
[20:52] <MHodge> johnja, I don't know if this was asked, but what version is installed on your pc?
[20:53] <dioioib> MHodge: he said it was an upgrade to 14.04
[20:54] <johnja> MHodge:  I don't have a proper version of Ubuntu at this time.  I had a crash during the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04.
[20:54] <xtjacob> I have a quick question about UEFI. I am trying to install a dual-boot with windows 8.1, and I'm not sure how to do the partitioning. Do I have to create my own /boot/efi partition, or does it use the efi partition windows created?
[20:55] <k1l_> johnja: then go into a konsole (ctrl+alt+f1) and run " sudo apt-get update " then "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[20:56] <s7x> hey guys, wondering how to get wine to see my usb snd card so guitar rig works on wine. any ideas?
[20:56] <Beldar> !uefi > xtjacob
[20:57] <johnja> k1l_: Part of the problem is that I have no network connection at this time.  eth0 seems to have gone missing.
[20:57] <xtjacob> ubottu: I'll give it a look!
[20:58] <kostkon> s7x, what's your problem exactly
[20:58] <s7x> when i load up guitar rig in wine i cant select my usb device as input so basically it doesnt work
[20:59] <s7x> pulseaudio is my only option
[21:00] <xtjacob> ubottu: so it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint
[21:00] <kostkon> s7x, so do it. install pavucontrol and seen if guitar rig appears in recording
[21:01] <xtjacob> so it says I have to set the /boot/efi mount point to the EFI partition. How do I do that? When I try to edit my EFI partition, I can't set the mountpoint
[21:03] <s7x> I see in recording tab, guitar rig stream #6
[21:03] <kostkon> s7x, can you select a device for it?
[21:04] <s7x> kostkon, not sure what you mean...in the device tab?
[21:04] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/eUPeO6Ic
[21:04] <s7x> input device tab i mean
[21:04] <adam_____> k1l_:
[21:05] <k1l_> adam_____: that is a lot of 3rd party repos
[21:05] <adam_____> yup
[21:06] <k1l_> adam_____: the chances are high that some PPA causes that error (like its mentioned in that askubuntu thread)
[21:06] <adam_____> for example, I need latest 2.9.x GIMP for 16-bit colour chanel
[21:06] <johnja> apt-get is complaining about unmet dependencies and apt-get -f install refused to fix them, but aptitude looks like it is working though.  I might be okay.
[21:07] <adam_____> k1l_: so, here's thing. How do I disable most of them or exclude them from upgrade and then re add them?
[21:07] <ewooy> is there a way to tell where is command running from? I want to replace firefox with nightly, so I thought about replacing symlink somewhere (dont know where yet) :D
[21:07] <dioioib> ewooy: use who
[21:08] <kostkon> s7x, in recording i mean.
[21:08] <dioioib> only works if the command is currently running though
[21:08] <k1l_> !ppa-purge | adam_____
[21:08] <ewooy> dioioib: how would who help me? Isn't this showing only who is logged in?
[21:08] <k1l_> !ppapurge | adam_____
[21:09] <dioioib> ewooy: yes then you can check ps -A
[21:09] <s7x> kostkon, yes i can, i can select the device (right now tried using jackd) and it shows that its responsive
[21:09] <adam_____> ok.. I'll give that a go
[21:09] <dioioib> with that user
[21:09] <OerHeks> so many ppa's, i hope for you that ppapurge can handle it
[21:09] <adam_____> would that stop those programs from working?
[21:09] <localg0d> What is the url for the xubuntu iso please ? i cannot find it at ubuntu.com
[21:09] <adam_____> or just leave them out from the updates?
[21:10] <k1l_> adam_____: that will revert to official ubuntu versions
[21:10] <OerHeks> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/
[21:10] <localg0d> and why has ubuntu decided to make it so hard to choose whether or not you want the xubuntu or educational iso etc ?
[21:10] <adam_____> hmm
[21:10] <k1l_> you could readd them afterwards
[21:10] <demo_> hello, where can i ask questions about linux installing?:D
[21:10] <dioioib> ewooy: or you might want to run this if the command is not running $ history
[21:10] <xangua> localg0d: xubuntu.orgedubuntu.org google.com
[21:10] <OerHeks> localg0d, xubuntu.com ?
[21:11] <k1l_> adam_____: the problem is that those modified packages can make the upgrade to stop
[21:11] <adam_____> ok.. say gimp as an example
[21:11] <ewooy> dioioib: Command is not running, when I type firefox into terminal I want to know where is it ran from
[21:11] <dioioib> ewooy: that will only show your user though
[21:12] <dioioib> ewooy: oh you just want to find the dir. just use $ find firefox
[21:12] <adam_____> that's easy because I can just install from downloaded executable until they update the developer ppa that has the version I need
[21:12] <localg0d> i tried xubuntu.com but thank you xangua
[21:12] <adam_____> I would like to clean it up anyway. how do I remove one of the ppas?
[21:12] <ewooy> dioioib: thanks
[21:12] <adam_____> same command?
[21:12] <localg0d> the other link with the url OerHeks shared worked fairly well
[21:12] <xangua> !ppa-purge | adam_____
[21:13] <dioioib> ewooy: just make sure you do recursive search from root.
[21:13] <localg0d> I did the sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop on the other system already and it is running as we speak.. already done downloading and installing
[21:13] <Flannel> ewooy: `which firefox` will tell you the path of 'firefox'.
[21:13] <dioioib> like find . firefox
[21:13] <adam_____> what I would really like to see is which ppa it choked on when doing the upgrade
[21:13] <s7x> Hello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[21:13] <Flannel> ewooy: If you want to use a different version that you installed, add it to your /usr/local/bin, and that'll be founf before the package version.
[21:14] <Pushy> what is LTS stand for?
[21:14] <szymon_g> hi
[21:14] <geirha> dioioib: not quite
[21:14] <k1l_> !lts | Pushy
[21:14] <Pushy> Ubuntu LTS = Ubuntu Life Too Short?
[21:14] <dioioib> geirha: find . firefox | grep firefox works fine fore me
[21:14] <Flannel> dioioib: `which firefox` is what he's looking for.
[21:14] <geirha> dioioib: that's silly
[21:15] <ewooy> Flannel: thanks!
[21:15] <dioioib> unless there are 2 versions of firefox on his system.
[21:15] <geirha> ''type firefox'' is better
[21:15] <dioioib> i've never used type
[21:15] <k1l_> Pushy: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?
[21:15] <geirha> run ''help type'' to read about it
[21:15] <dioioib> doing that now
[21:16] <Flannel> dioioib: No, his question was "what's being run when I type 'firefox'" not "where are firefox(es) on my system"
[21:16] <Raziel-CZ> Helloo Linux World, I am the Novice :)
[21:16] <Pushy> k1l_, can microsoft 2010 install in ubuntu?
[21:16] <geirha> dioioib: Anyway, as for find, it would be  find . -name firefox   to look for a file named firefox from the current directory
[21:16] <demo_> hello, ive done today my first linux install and ive got some problems. it worked fine at first, then ive installed the upgrades popping up. now it hangs when booting up. can anyone help?
[21:17] <geirha> Flannel: And which does not answer that; type does
[21:17] <dioioib> geirha: why in the world would you need to use find for something in the current directory
[21:17] <dioioib> in that case you would know where it was
[21:17] <geirha> dioioib: are you kidding me?
[21:17] <Raziel-CZ> Nějaký Čech tu asi není, což?
[21:17] <k1l_> Pushy: last chance: do you have a technical ubuntu support issue?
[21:17] <bekks> !cz | Raziel-CZ
[21:17] <k1l_> !cz | Raziel-CZ
[21:17] <geirha> dioioib: well, with recurssion, obviously
[21:17] <Raziel-CZ> bekks, kl_: thx
[21:18] <Flannel> geirha: It does answer that.  Stop talking nonsense.
[21:18] <dioioib> that is not much different then using grep to find all files with the tag firefox including any scripts.
[21:18] <Raziel-CZ> !cz
[21:18] <geirha> Flannel: If firefox was an alias or function, type would say so, which would not
[21:19] <localg0d> xangua: do you mind telling me how i might change the bootlist to boot windows first ? for some reason i cannot find that setting in the administrative settings section..
[21:19] <dioioib> geirha: sounds like type is the way to go then
[21:19] <geirha> type is a shell builtin, which is a pointless and badly written shell script
[21:19] <dioioib> geirha: does it have a shorter run cycle. I can't use it on my current system
[21:19] <LostMyMind> If I were to format my partition, then install 13.03, install some 3rd party software, then update to 14.04, would my 3rd party software still be there?
[21:19] <bekks> LostMyMind: 13.04 is EOL. Do not install it anymore.
[21:20] <bekks> LostMyMind: In addition, you would have to upgrade to 13.10 first, before you can upgrade to 14.04
[21:20] <geirha> dioioib: shorter run cycle?
[21:20] <k1l_> LostMyMind: why dont you start with 14.04 in first place?
[21:20] <dioioib> geirha: well using find . firefox | grep Firefox takes a long time to run. hence it's run cycle
[21:21] <minimec> LostMyMind: ... and yes 3rd party software would still be present, but the repositories fpr updates would be disabled
[21:22] <qin> dioioib: find is useless for it, use locate to have some flying expirience in terminal, and why would you have 2 versions of same browser installed, and how did you managed to do it?
[21:22] <LostMyMind> well, I'm new to linux. The 3rd party software has a PPA for 13.03, but not for 14.04. It's one peice of software that is must-have for me. They have a downloadable file for manual installation, but apperently it's hard to install since certain dependancies aren't available on 14.04
[21:23] <bekks> LostMyMind: Chances are good it wont run on 14.04 then. And 13.04 (not 13.03) is EOL - so you are out of luck actually.
[21:23] <dioioib> qin: a I didn't install it. 2 if you compile from source you could. And find with a pipe to a grep works for finding almost anything in your system
[21:23] <qin> LostMyMind: and what piece of software is it?
[21:23] <k1l_> LostMyMind: that is not usable on 14.04 anyway
[21:24] <k1l_> LostMyMind: which program is that?
[21:24] <LostMyMind> Playstation3 media Server
[21:24] <k1l_> ah, you again
[21:24] <qin> dioioib: compile from source is bad idea, mozzilla will overwrite itself, unless you change installation paths
[21:24] <SofS> qin: firefox is easy to have on multiple versions, either the tarball or compiling, and each is pretty much standalone, however they have to be launched directly from their own folders
[21:25] <qin> dioioib: find with exec makes sense with pipe little less
[21:25] <dioioib> qin: I know. I am just giving you examples here.
[21:25] <geirha> dioioib: piping find to grep just shows that you don't know how to use the find command. But don't fret, it *is* a very complicated command.
[21:25] <localg0d> can anyone tell me how i get away from the default desktop settings ? turn off all the transitional effects etc ?
[21:26] <geirha> dioioib: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind
[21:26] <orogor> localg0d, basically ... use another desktop
[21:26] <qin> SofS: linky, since last time almost broken keyboard installing old fox ;)
[21:26] <orogor> lxdeskip or whatever
[21:27] <localg0d> I install xubuntu but unfortunately when I selected xfce it will not run that desktop .. it runs the same looking desktop
[21:27] <orogor> :/
[21:27] <LostMyMind> I got it to install on my last distro, but that was linuxlite which was based on 13.03. Then randomly the whole system froze up. I had to push and hold power to turn it off. When I turned it back on, grub was gone. Wouldn't load anything. I reinstalled via dvd for 14.04, and now everything works again. But now I'm finding problems with ps3 media server, and flash on firefox.
[21:27] <orogor> can t choose another thing at the session login ?
[21:27] <Chuo> Hey guys, I can't open libreoffice because it says I don't have access rights to ~/.config/libreoffice/4 How do I go about fixing it?
[21:28] <k1l_> LostMyMind: talk to that PPA maintainer to make a package for 14.04
[21:28] <orogor> Chuo,  that s weirdo
[21:28] <zzz_> Can anyone offer any advice on wireless for 14.04? My PCIe card (Ralink RT5392 using stock rt2860.bin) has stopped connecting to my home WPA2 network. It will connect to the network unsecured, and I've tried my phone as a hotspot and connected unsecured and with WPA2 there. I can scan for networks fine. Yesterday night I had Internet fine again, today it's back to no connectivity.
[21:28] <SofS> qui: well, it really only works if each is in its own folder, mixing with systemwide settings/folders would be sad
[21:29] <LostMyMind> I'm not going to look for the individual topic again, but basically he wrote on his forum that there is a certain dependancy that isn't on 14.04. So the installation will be harder. Me being new to linux I couldn't even figure out how to install a tar.gz
[21:30] <dioioib> geirha: the whole name search portion of find is really nice. thanks.
[21:30] <amed> i have a problem with automounting of a partition ext4
[21:30] <adam_____> I'm not sure why the distro update doesn't have an option to ignore the optional sources I've included if their dependencies can't be satisfied
[21:31] <qin> SofS: Sad is a bad word to discribe it. ;) Well for a moment using separate vbox for every ff ;)
[21:31] <adam_____> I'd like to have to rebuild that myself if I really want to use it
[21:31] <Chuo> how do I change the permissions to ~/.config/libreoffice$ using terminal
[21:31] <AP-> yi
[21:31] <AP-> hi
[21:32] <AP-> is it a file
[21:32] <AP-> or a directory SI
[21:32] <k1l_> adam_____: that is the usual way. but what the installed packages cause is up to the packages.
[21:32] <AP-> r
[21:32] <AP-> sory for typos
[21:32] <AP-> im a lil drunk
[21:32] <AP-> and thinkk i screwed a rabit
[21:33] <amed> this is my /etc/fstab http://pastebin.com/HiUsdrJJ
[21:33] <k1l_> AP-: dont drink and irc. :)  if you want to chat talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:33] <SofS> qin: would not different profiles do the job instead of a full vbox?
[21:33] <minimec> Chuo: example 'chmod 660 ~/.config/libreoffice'
[21:33] <johnja> AP-: please leave the animals alone.
[21:34] <adam_____> k1l_: so what you're saying is that the installed packackages may have changed the systems files? or what is part of the official distribution?
[21:34] <LostMyMind> what would ubuntu-offtopic talk about? Sounds like a catch 22
[21:34] <Chuo> minimec: are those the permissions it needs 660?
[21:34] <k1l_> adam_____: yes
[21:34] <k1l_> !ot | LostMyMind
[21:35] <adam_____> ok.. so when I disable all the extras in sources, is there a way to revert the distro-affecting files (who cares if the stuff I added stops working)?
[21:35] <minimec> Chuo: http://www.linuxtopia.org/online_books/introduction_to_linux/linux_The_chmod_command.html
[21:36] <qin> SofS: I dont know, ff is no bigge right now. No worries about it.
[21:36] <OerHeks> adam_____, ppapurge
[21:36] <Michael87> Hey I am getting ready to begin a youtube channel. I am looking for a quallity webcam program. I love cheese but all its outputs are only webm and not mp4. is it recommended to record in webm and if so is there a way to increase the bitrates? I can go up to 720p on it but the output always has a bit of compression in the picture
[21:37] <bray90820> So i am trying to install ubuntu on my mac i can boot from 13.10 usb drive i made but i cant from 14.04-mac
[21:37] <amed> somebody?
[21:38] <qin> Michael87: vlc?
[21:38] <bray90820> eventho i can boot 14.04-mac on my pc
[21:38] <Chuo> minimec: the problem is I don't know what permissions it needs and don't even know why is blocked, I only installed base and it wouldn't run, I have the feeling that if I uninstall it it won't change the permissions.
[21:38] <bray90820> ubuntu-mac
[21:38] <Michael87> qin, vlc? never thought about tryying that thanks
[21:38] <amed> bray90820, i have fedora 20 in my Mac
[21:38] <sharto> what differences in performance can i expect when enabling unity 8 and mir?
[21:38] <k1l_> sharto: it is a preview.
[21:39] <amed> i need help with auto mount a partition ext4, somebody?
[21:39] <Bray90820> fedore guy do you have any experience with ubuntu on a mac
[21:39] <minimec> Chuo: 'mv ~/.config/libreoffice ~/.config/libreoffice-bak' would rename it (backup). Launching libreoffice would then create a new one with the according rights you need.
[21:40] <amed> Bray90820, use a ubuntu iso for mac
[21:40] <dioioib> bray90820: what are you looking for?
[21:40] <Michael87> qin, thank you for the advice. its a start wither or not vlc is the best choice
[21:40] <sharto> k1l_: so it doesn't actually install unity 8 and mir?
[21:41] <minimec> Chuo: 660 should do, I guess...
[21:41] <Bray90820> Well i made two usb installs one of 13.10 and one of 14,04 mac edition i can't seem to boot the 13.10 boot fine on my mac but 14.04 won't boot
[21:41] <Bray90820> 14.04 boots on my pc tho
[21:41] <k1l_> sharto: it does. but its like a trailer comparing to a full movie
[21:42] <Chuo> minimec: 660 didn't work. How do I delete the folder? is not rm is it
[21:42] <k1l_> sharto: please read the whole new and not just the headlines
[21:42] <rww> e.g. the Unity 8 desktop UI is not finalized yet, so it's very tablet-y right now
[21:42] <dioioib> bray90820: so these are both bootable usb keys or HDs?
[21:42] <sharto> k1l_: okay.. :[
[21:42] <amed> Bray90820, mmm use https://scottlinux.com/2011/06/14/how-to-dual-boot-os-x-and-linux/
[21:42] <qin> Michael87: probably not best, but its all rounder and well documented and tested
[21:42] <sharto> k1l_: thank you
[21:42] <Bray90820> dioioib: usb keys
[21:43] <audictive> rtorrent
[21:43] <dioioib> bray90820: and how are you booting them now
[21:43] <Bray90820> Well on my mac i am holding down option key when i boot
[21:44] <minimec> Chuo: 'mv' is better as it does rename the folder and you have a backup. 'rm' would indeed delete the file. 'chmod 777' would give full acces to everyone...
[21:44] <dioioib> bray90820: for 14.04 how is the key formated?
[21:44] <amed> C or D key to boot
[21:44] <minimec> Chuo: Wait! 'chmod -R 660 ~/.config/libreoffice.
[21:45] <Chuo> minimec: yeah but it doesn't matter because libre should create again, rm didn't work though
[21:45] <Bray90820> dioioib: do you mean partition type
[21:45] <dioioib> yes
[21:45] <Bray90820> dioioib: fat 32
[21:46] <minimec> Chuo: '-R' apply changes to all the files in the folder. As I told you... 'mv' is always better.
[21:46] <s7x> Hello, I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt channel into Guitar rig and work..so I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[21:46] <dioioib> bray90820: the only thing I could suggest trying are remake your key or try a boot manager like this http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[21:47] <Bray90820> dioioib: this is teh second time i am making the key
[21:47] <dioioib> what program did you use?
[21:47] <dioioib> I had someone in here the other day that ran into an issue using one of the programs that auto makes your usb keys
[21:48] <Chuo> minimec: I used rm -r -f, it opens now
[21:48] <Chuo> minimec: thanks
[21:48] <minimec> Chuo: No problem ;)
[21:48] <Bray90820> dioioib: first i tried the one that came with ubuntu and then i tried Universal USB Installer on windows
[21:50] <Brutus> Hi I got a new computer with ubuntu. i had 13.10 but couldn't get my network to work. i went out and got an intel card but that doesn't work either. no ip address. I now upgraded to 14.04 and I got an IP address. I can ping but I get around 12000ms to google com and 56% packet loss. The site itself won't load. I tested the computer with windows and that works just fine.
[21:50] <Brutus> just ubuntu doesn't work
[21:50] <dioioib> bray90820: let me go over my chat logs. brbr
[21:50] <Brutus> other computers work just fine, also on that cable
[21:51] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/faillog.txt
[21:52] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/dmesg.txt
[21:52] <Brutus> http://users.ninthfloor.org/~brutus/syslog.txt
[21:52] <Bray90820> dioioib: could it be that i am using the mac iso of 14.04
[21:54] <dioioib> to make your key? Well if you have tried both programs to burn the ISO at this point that would be the only difference between what you did and what he did.
[21:55] <Bray90820> dioioib: so should i just use the desktop version on my mac
[21:55] <dioioib> what version were you trying cloud or server?
[21:56] <Bray90820> dioioib: sorry i misspoke i am using the desktop version what i was asking is if i should use the non mac version
[21:56] <OerHeks> it depends on your apple machine, check the mactel pages > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:57] <dioioib> bray90820: do you know where to get your mac version code?
[21:58] <Bray90820> dioioib: do you mean like 8,1 or whatever
[21:58] <dioioib> ye
[21:58] <dioioib> s
[21:58] <Bray90820> I will find it hang on
[22:00] <FreeWin> hi ppl
[22:01] <adam_____> having so many packages, I'd like to know which ones are making the upgrade to 14.04 choke
[22:01] <Bray90820> dioioib: It's 8,1
[22:01] <adam_____> this was not such a big headache going from 13.04 to 13.10.. grrrr
[22:01] <Scriptonaut> hey guys, I'm having trouble using my mic
[22:01] <OerHeks> adam_____, backup your data and fresh install will be the fastest option, i guess
[22:02] <Scriptonaut> Could somebody help me get ubuntu to recognize it?
[22:02] <adam_____> ugh..
[22:02] <FreeWin> i have problems with live usb 14.04.4
[22:02] <dioioib> bray90820: the support matrix says there really isn't a version that best supports your hardware.
[22:02] <Scriptonaut> it's just one of those little audio jack mics, not usb
[22:02] <FreeWin> 12.04.4
[22:02] <FreeWin> my bad :)
[22:02] <Bray90820> dioioib: so does that mean i shouldn't install ubuntu on it?
[22:02] <adam_____> too many things installed to just blast the whole machine
[22:02] <OerHeks> adam_____, we warn especially for PPA's, as these things can happen
[22:03] <adam_____> I would expect that with windows
[22:03] <qin> adam_____: one more reason to nuke it ;)
[22:03] <OerHeks> Don't blaim ubuntu.,
[22:03] <adam_____> I don't have windows
[22:03] <dioioib> bray90820: well if you do you might run into the odd issue with hardware. Just try your live boot and see what you can and can't do before you install it.
[22:03] <FreeWin> 12.04.3 and 12.04.2 live usb works great but not 12.04.4
[22:03] <adam_____> I'm not dual booting
[22:03] <Brutus> OerHeks: I'm blaming ubuntu that my netowrk isn't workin but if I install windows on it it works out of the box
[22:03] <cknox> hmmmm
[22:03] <Brutus> it's like a reversed world on my pc
[22:03] <Brutus> :S
[22:04] <Bray90820> dioioib: Well on 12.04 i could do pretty much everything
[22:04] <OerHeks> Brutus, wired or wireless?
[22:04] <Brutus> wired
[22:05] <dioioib> bray90820: then you might want to stick with that version for now.
[22:05] <Brutus> i reinstalled with 14.04 now (was on 13.10 with no wired) and I finally get an ip
[22:05] <qin> Bray90820: 12.04 is still supported... and 14.04 just came up, good habit to give it dry run before deploying
[22:05] <Brutus> when I ping google: 46% packetloss, time 12037ms
[22:05] <Bray90820> dioioib: Well i could just install 13.10 and upgrade to 14.04 but won't me the mac iso
[22:05] <Brutus> everything else is working fine, windows on that same box works fine
[22:06] <Brutus> I'm getting so annoyed with this :S
[22:06] <cknox> so apparently I can change the IP address on my router and not get disconnected?
[22:06] <dioioib> bray90820: looks like 13.04 is supported.
[22:06] <bekks> dioioib: 13.04 is EOL.
[22:06] <Brutus> OerHeks: enig idee?
[22:06] <dioioib> bekks: that sucks
[22:07] <dioioib> no listing for 13.10
[22:07] <Bray90820> dioioib: are you telling me not to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10
[22:07] <dioioib> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro
[22:07] <Brutus> OerHeks: I posted the dmesg, syslog and faillog a few minutes ago
[22:07] <OerHeks> Brutus so it works?
[22:07] <minimec> Brutus: is that a wired network or wifi. Internal device or USB?
[22:07] <Brutus> no it doesn't
[22:07] <Brutus> i can't do anything
[22:07] <Brutus> minimec: pci intel gt1000 pro card
[22:08] <dioioib> bray90820: I am saying that I wouldn't right now. qin's advice would be what I would do. Try it on live CD/DVD/USB and see if it works well before installing.
[22:08] <qin> Brutus: does ping 8.8.8.8 works any better?
[22:08] <Brutus> i get an ip, i can ping (with half of the packages being lost, huuuuuge ping) but can't reach anything
[22:08] <OerHeks> Brutus, ah that problematic intel 1000 NIC
[22:08] <Brutus> qin: already tried, same problem
[22:08] <dioioib> but seeing as it doesn't even boot on your mac I think I would avoid it.
[22:08] <Brutus> OerHeks: getting the same problems with the internal card
[22:08] <Brutus> actually, not even getting an ip on that
[22:08] <Brutus> :S
[22:08] <minimec> Brutus: Can you give me the complete line of lspci for that card?
[22:08] <Brutus> minimec: i'm sorry?
[22:08] <Bray90820> dioioib: i can't really boot a live usb of ubuntu 14.04
[22:09] <Brutus> oh wait that's a command
[22:09] <dioioib> bray90820: do you have CD/DVD?
[22:09] <Bray90820> dioioib: the download is over 700MB and i don't have any free dvds
[22:10] <Brutus> http://pastebin.com/esySLgyP
[22:10] <Brutus> minimec: that's the lspci
[22:11] <Bray90820> dioioib: i will just use 13.10 and upgrade to 14,04 if it doesn't work for me i will just remove it
[22:11] <dioioib> bray90820: that sounds like a plan.
[22:11] <Brutus> livecd gives the same problems for me
[22:12] <Brutus> 13.10 no ip address, nothing at all. 14.04 an ip address, just can't do anything with it
[22:12] <Bray90820> dioioib: what even is the difference between the mac and non mac iso
[22:12] <dioioib> bray90820: have you thought about installing it to a VM?
[22:12] <Brutus> manually set 8.8.8.8 as dns, doesn't work, huge package loss, huge latency
[22:13] <dioioib> bray90820: not much just some low level hardware and drivers mostly. There are limitations on bootable partitions that the OS sees too. you need special bootloaders to run on mac as well. With ufi booting things are supose to be easier though.
[22:13] <jaksi> hi
[22:14] <Bray90820> dioioib: A vm a possibility but it just emulates the hardware from osx so it won't really tell me if something like bluetooth works or not
[22:14] <Brutus> minimec: any idea?
[22:14] <dioioib> bray90820: yeah that was the problem for me to I needed hardware access for some electronics work.
[22:14] <jaksi> I've got a small problem with ubuntu 14.04: sometimes the sound gets a little distorted for a few seconds
[22:15] <jaksi> I don't exactly know what's "triggering" it
[22:15] <jaksi> it occurs every few minutes
[22:17] <minimec> Brutus: Well I see that that special card is making problems for years now. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1003512 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/309211
[22:18] <Brutus> well 100mbit would be an upgrade at this moment :S
[22:18] <roy_> Hi, was upgrading ubuntu on server by ssh an the terminal froze, I managed to ssh back into the server but it was half way through a upgrade how do I get it to carry on with the server upgrade?
[22:19] <minimec> Brutus: Some suggested to use a driver provided by Intel, but that was some years ago. I guess by now the linux kernel uses the best available module. You may be able to tune the card settings in a file in /etc/modprobe.d/82541PI.conf
[22:19] <kostkon> roy_: apt-get dist-upgrade?
[22:20] <Brutus> minimec: that file doesn't exist
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: you would need to create it, if you need it
[22:21] <holstein> and you shouldnt
[22:21] <Brutus> oh
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: the kernel module is likely the "best" option
[22:21] <Brutus> holstein: i don't understand that last sentence
[22:21] <holstein> Brutus: then, you would read about, and learn to tune from there, such as that file referenced
[22:21] <cknox> I suppose I shouldn't change the IP address while I'm rsyncing stuff to the server should I?
[22:22] <Brutus> cknox: no you shouldn't
[22:22] <minimec> Brutus: I know. If there are some config options for the driver, you would have to place these options there.
[22:22] <holstein> Brutus: the driver that is *already* in the kernel.. likely the "best", minimec is suggesting
[22:23] <Brutus> ok this starts making less sense to me
[22:24] <euryale> guys need help for installing amd apu driver in ubuntu.
[22:25] <euryale> i want to install the proprietary drivers for it.
[22:25] <holstein> euryale: want or need? how are the open ones? they are usually "best"
[22:25] <holstein> !ati | euryale
[22:25] <crocket> I want to upgrade to 14.04 from 13.10, but is the upgrade going to break PPA packages?
[22:26] <roy_> kostkon: wont let me, says its locked
[22:26] <crocket> PPA packages include graphic card driver.
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: ppa's are not supported officially so, yes
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: likely
[22:26] <crocket> hell
[22:26] <holstein> crocket: you upgrade, then add what you want/need back
[22:27] <crocket> I guess I want to upgrade after ensuring PPA packages don't break.
[22:27] <euryale> @holstein. i don't it seen kind of not laggy, the is not fluid?
[22:27] <euryale> what i mean was, the animation for window spread is not fluid, but it's not laggy.
[22:27] <holstein> euryale: the proprietaru one could be worse.. dont expect it to fix anything
[22:27] <holstein> euryale: try it and see
[22:27] <minimec> Brutus: Some suggested to load the driver like this "modprobe e1000 AutoNeg=0x28"
[22:27] <euryale> ok
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: Try the following command ...
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: echo "options e1000 TxIntDelay=0 TxAbsIntDelay=10 RxIntDelay=0 RxAbsIntDelay=10 InterruptThrottleRate=0 SmartPowerDownEnable=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/e1000.conf
[22:31] <Brutus> minimec: that last one did something. i can now after the modprobe reach my internal network!
[22:31] <Brutus> website of my router just loaded
[22:31] <minimec> Brutus: That creates a config file with some settings that might work...
[22:32] <minimec> Brutus: Source in german... at the end http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/netzwerkgeschwindigkeit-instabil-nur-rmmod-mod/
[22:32] <atlasblade> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcuqxj5YTA8
[22:33] <logy> anyone knows which channel is for kali linux? (its not kali or backtrack)
[22:34] <crocket> huh
[22:34] <crocket> Does ubuntu come with vdpau support?
[22:35] <Brutus> ok i tried that minimec. my german is a bit rusty though
[22:35] <Brutus> took a while but google was loaded. progress has been made!
[22:36] <crocket> Does ubuntu 14.04 come with vdpau support for nouveau?
[22:36] <Brutus> i did the line but it doesn't appear to have effect or should I do a reboot?
[22:36] <minimec> Brutus: Now reboot or simply unload/load the driver without any option. Maybe check that the e1000.conf file was created in /etc/modprobe.
[22:36] <adam_____> starting to see that libmono and anything that depends on it may be something to remove before upgrading to 14.04
[22:37] <Brutus> i'll just reboot, just as fast
[22:37] <qin> logy: #kali-linux
[22:38] <binBlob> Hi, I have some problems with perf : Failed to find path of kernel module. I did figure out that I need to set some soft links ... but from where ?
[22:39] <binBlob> I have installed the kernel sources and the debug packages
[22:39] <Brutus> minimec: did a reboot but didn't work. can't reach my internal network anymore either
[22:42] <minimec> Brutus: So delete that e1000.conf file again or try just to put 'options AutoNeg=0x28' in there instead of the 'junk' we have in there.
[22:43] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/HzaDizjO
[22:43] <adam_____> anything in here that looks fishy?
[22:43] <adam_____> I still can't upgrade to 14.04
[22:44] <adam_____> there is an nvidea in there
[22:44] <adam_____> but I thought that would be disabled by disabling 3rd party sources on the update
[22:45] <Brutus> minimec: done, reboot and still the same
[22:45] <minimec> Brutus: ... or add that option to the other options?
[22:45] <adam_____> there is an nvidea in there
[22:45] <Brutus> takes a while before I can pin ganything
[22:45] <Brutus> can do that as well
[22:45] <Brutus> one moment
[22:45] <adam_____> Bray90820: is that you, Tim?
[22:46] <Bray90820> adam_____: what did i do?
[22:46] <adam_____> lol.. nothing
[22:46] <Bray90820> adam_____: why did you ping me
[22:47] <adam_____> just wondering if it's you
[22:47] <xangua> adam_____: did you run ppa-purge against all third party repository you have as you were told?
[22:47] <adam_____> you were trying trusty earlier
[22:47] <Bray90820> adam_____: If what is me
[22:47] <trism> adam_____: you might want to purge cinnamon, that's gone in 14.04, could be breaking on newer libs
[22:47] <minimec> Brutus: Well I guess that is all I can do for you. You know the mechanism now, how to put some driver options for a driver. Maybe search the for other options like 'e1000 /etc/modrobe.d/ options'. Arch and gentoo forums are a good source besides the ubuntu forums.
[22:48] <adam_____> Bray90820: wondering if you're Tim Bray
[22:48] <Bray90820> My name is Aaron
[22:48] <adam_____> trism: that's my next try
[22:48] <OerHeks> xangua, he had so many ppa's, i wonder if ppapurge could handle that, reverse to original packages
[22:48] <Bray90820> adam_____: my name is Aaron not Tim
[22:49] <Brutus> would it help buying a better network card?
[22:49] <adam_____> Bray90820: no worries.. thought it would be an odd coincidence if it was
[22:49] <cnnx> I would like ubuntu users to check out my site http://www.freemysql.org if you are new to linux and databases.
[22:49] <Bray90820> Ok
[22:50] <cnnx> ubuntu is what i usually recommend to new linux users
[22:50] <adam_____> ...zapping cinnamon
[22:51] <adam_____> ouch
[22:51] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/MKoiPfkn
[22:51] <cnnx> adam_____: what service is that?
[22:51] <adam_____> cinamon doesn't want to go
[22:51] <minimec> Brutus: it surely does, but verify linux support :)
[22:51] <Brutus> i will
[22:51] <Brutus> thanks for the help minimec
[22:51] <adam_____> cnnx: ?
[22:52] <minimec> Brutus: No problem.
[22:53] <tannerstirrat> hey all
[22:54] <johnja> aptitude was able to make my interrupted upgrade from Ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 complete.  There seem to be some missing parts.  I no longer have a Gnome session (I can deal with that later) but I have no network connection.
[22:55] <johnja> I have been using the onboard wired ethernet provided by my (possibly broken) ASRock 990FX Extreme3 as eth0.  I now don't seem to have an eth0.  Is this a software issue or a hardware issue?
[22:56] <Tunix> johnja: what sais "lspci"?
[22:56] <Tunix> does your nic appear there?
[22:57] <tylerburtonca> So I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[22:58] <johnja> lspci finishes off by telling me I have Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetLink BCM57781 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe (rev 10)
[22:58] <Tunix> ok, hardware is responding, try something like "ifconfig eth0 up"
[22:58] <Tunix> as root
[22:58] <SKELETR0N> why does watching videos or css3 animations in firefox peg my cpu usage at 100%
[22:59] <johnja> eth0 ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[22:59] <johnja> eth0: ERROR while getting interface flags: No such device
[22:59] <Tunix> strange
[23:00] <adam_____> cinamon was the problem
[23:00] <sig357> Does anyone know the status of Cinnamon for 14.04?
[23:00] <adam_____> if you want an easy upgrade to 14.04, get rid of cinamon
[23:00] <toothe> Hi, how do I upgrade my installation of python and python-twisted?
[23:00] <adam_____> thanks for the help everyone
[23:01] <sig357> I apologize if came late to an already discussed topic.
[23:01] <sig357> I did a clean instal
[23:01] <SKELETR0N> i tried to do the update but it said i had apt-get open and it couldnt continue.. on a fresh boot :\
[23:01] <Tunix> johnja: does "lsmod | grep tg3" output something?
[23:01] <adam_____> got rid of kde dependent stuff just in case and it zapped a whole bunch of stuff
[23:01] <adam_____> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/DHU9VFJT
[23:02] <adam_____> got rid of my digicam and hugin :/
[23:02] <causative> hey i just gotta say compiz annotations are pretty neat
[23:02] <toothe> how do I upgrade the version of python and twisted installed on my box?
[23:02] <johnja> Tunix: yes
[23:02] <causative> you can just draw on the screen anywhere, put notes or reminders for yourself
[23:02] <johnja> tg3             166442  0
[23:03] <johnja> ptp                    18933  1 tg3
[23:03] <causative> I only wish the eraser was a clean eraser instead of a spraycan eraser
[23:03] <Tunix> johnja: does "dmesg | grep -i tg3" output something?
[23:04] <minimec> johnja: Did you try software&updates GUI and check for additional drivers. There seem to be a driver provided by Broadcom... http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-2020496.html
[23:04] <Scar3cr0w> and why no 256 color capable terminal as default yet?
[23:05] <toothe> how do I upgrade twisted? I'm still using a very dated version.
[23:05] <Tunix> minimec: is Broadcom still that secretive regarding their specs?
[23:06] <johnja> minimec: no, I'm currently without any network connectivity on this machine.
[23:06] <minimec> Tunix: Let's say it like this. I never understood why they use a bradcom chip in the raspberry pi... ;)
[23:07] <tylerburtonca> anyone had any luck getting autologin to work with the primary account (the one setup during installation)?
[23:07] <johnja> minimec: if I don't neet network for that, please give me instructions in as much detail as possible.  I'm in an xubuntu desktop and not used to it.
[23:07] <Tunix> it could be worse...realtek anyone? ;) (those nics work on linux, though)
[23:07] <causative> I'm using compiz annotations to just draw on my screen which terminal windows are what
[23:07] <causative> so I can find them again easily
[23:07] <minimec> johnja: You may be able to do the check even without network connection. You would at least know, if there is a driver available...
[23:08] <adam_____> ok.. doing the upgrade
[23:08] <adam_____> I'll add my missing stuff again after
[23:08] <lasindi> Hi all, I just upgraded to 14.04 and the launch bar doesn't display the number of windows correctly. For example, if I start Firefox and then open a new window (for two total windows), there is only one white "tick" mark to the left of the firefox icon. If I then click on the firefox icon the two windows are shown and two ticks appear. If I select a window for focus and then close it, the two ticks are still there. Anyone else have this problem or a know
[23:08] <lasindi>  a solution?
[23:09] <OerHeks> toothe, ubuntu 14.04 got 13.2.0 http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python-twisted looks pretty recent
[23:09] <toothe> heh, I'm there right now :-)
[23:09] <toothe> I guess I don't know how to translate that into an apt-get command.
[23:10] <tylerburtonca> So I just installed Ubuntu 14.04 and cannot get it to auto-login my account. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:10] <OerHeks> toothe, compared with http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/wiki/Downloads
[23:10] <johnja> minimec:  I would like to try it, but don't understand how to do it.
[23:10]  * Tunix is sipping from his third cocktail, is actually quite fun following this channel :P
[23:10] <ziew> hi, how to check if my laptop is 64 or 32bit - to know which version of linux to install?
[23:10] <adam_____> ugh.. this download will take 1 day and 17 hours
[23:11] <adam_____> is there a better way to get this upgrade done faster?
[23:11] <Michael87> so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?
[23:11] <bekks> adam_____: essentially no.
[23:11] <tylerburtonca> ziew, do you know which CPU model you have?
[23:11] <Tunix> adam_____: try using a mirror near you?
[23:11] <adam_____> wow.. pretty crazy
[23:11] <minimec> johnja: Go to the system settings -> Software&updates. Check the additional drivers tab...
[23:11] <Tunix> adam_____: or upgrade your downlink ;)
[23:11] <adam_____> Tunix: in hawaii right now
[23:11] <ziew> tylerburtonca: dont know that (my laptop is ~3years old)
[23:12] <adam_____> at the mercy of the router here at the condo :)
[23:12] <OerHeks> adam_____, type less, save bandwith
[23:12] <tylerburtonca> ziew, based on the age you very likely have a 64-bit processor. Which OS do you currently have installed?
[23:12] <zube> I just downloaded the latest ubuntu.  Haven't used Ubuntu for a while, and can not for the life of me work out how to get a terminal open
[23:12] <adam_____> har har
[23:12] <zube> anyone know?
[23:12] <tylerburtonca> zube, Ctrl+Alt+T
[23:12] <ziew> tylerburtonca: kubuntu 14.04 32bit
[23:12] <leuApodo2> hi everyone
[23:12] <leurian> hi all
[23:13] <zube> thanks tylerburtonca
[23:13] <ziew> tylerburtonca: but it runs quite slow so i startet to think why...
[23:13] <Tunix> zube: Ctrl-T
[23:13] <johnja> minimec:  This only lists display drivers, nothing for ethernet.
[23:13] <Tunix> oops cttl-alt-t is, thanks tylerburtonca
[23:14] <drakeymcd> Hey if anybody is nice enough to help me with an issue can you please help me? im trying to boot Ubuntu from GRUB 2.0 but i honestly dont know what to do xD
[23:14] <tylerburtonca> ziew, apparently if you run "grep flags /proc/cpuinfo" without quotes and it says "lm" (long mode) that is an indicator of 64bit CPU
[23:15] <ziew> tylerburtonca: it says "lm" amongst others, "tm" is also there
[23:15] <adam_____> "do-release-upgrade" or "do-release-upgrade -d"?
[23:15] <Michael87> I just now did the hotcorner option that I get with unity tweak tool and it stuck in the spreadsheet window. I'm all thinking what the hell. Hit the windows button on my laptop got out of it. pain in the ass
[23:16] <tylerburtonca> ziew, you should be at least able to install 64bit, however it may not be the best choice. How much RAM does your system have?
[23:16] <ziew> tylerburtonca: 4GB od RAM
[23:16] <minimec> johnja: So nothing available for your Card... The broadcom site might help for a driver. I guess I cannot help you further. http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netlink_k57.php
[23:17] <ziew> tylerburtonca: will 64 kubuntu 14.04. work faster than 32bit?
[23:17] <Michael87> so I did a strait distro upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04 with plans to do a clean install later. For the most part it runs fine but since upgrade its frozen on me like 5 times today. is this 14.04 itself or becuase I did the distro upgrade?
[23:17] <minimec> johnja: There is indeed a tg3 driver for linux...
[23:18] <Tunix> Due to force of habit I have upgraded all my boxes via "apt-get dist-upgrade". Don't know what "do-release-upgrade" does better...
[23:19] <adam_____> did it without the developer option
[23:19] <Drummit> Hey all....having trouble installing conky-manager.  Terminal says it cant be found?  I tried the conky irc, but is dead...
[23:19] <tylerburtonca> ziew, its hard to say. Depending on the CPU chip 64bit *can* be faster but its not a sure thing. Also something to keep in mind is that running 64bit programs will use slightly more memory and may require more trips to RAM as a result (its very technical but I'm trying to make it as simple as possible). Long-story short YMMV
[23:19] <Leo_Verto> how do I install mono on 14.04?
[23:19] <adam_____> It'll do it's thing over the next 2 days I guess
[23:20] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: best to build it
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> mkay
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> thanks, I'll try that then
[23:20] <SonikkuAmerica> Tunix: do-release-upgrade upgrades Ubuntu to the next version.
[23:20] <Leo_Verto> assuming I'm able to resolve this dual-boot situation
[23:20] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: mono is always updating stuff, so better to be able to work off the source for it
[23:21] <Tunix> SonikkuAmerica: so does apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:21] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: why do you need dual boot? I'm running Windows in virtualbox with no issues
[23:21] <SonikkuAmerica> !dist-upgrade | Tunix, I beg to differ
[23:21] <Leo_Verto> adam_____, I installed Windows first and use both OSes actively
[23:21] <tylerburtonca> Leo_Verto, you may also be able to just install mono-runtime and have it pull in the rest for you. Not sure which version ships with 14.04 though
[23:21] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I use both as well
[23:22] <Tunix> that bot is wrong...14.04 it is ;)
[23:22] <adam_____> ubuntu is much better as base os
[23:22] <adam_____> had it the other way around before
[23:22] <tylerburtonca> Anyone able to get auto-login to work. I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:22] <adam_____> folder shares work well, etc
[23:22] <adam_____> pass-through USB, etc
[23:23] <Leo_Verto> would you recommend virtualbox over vmware?
[23:23] <Tunix> i think i have to inspect do-release-upgrade's source to detect any REAL differences
[23:23] <adam_____> yes
[23:23] <minimec> Leo_Verto: I tend to vmware
[23:23] <ziew> tylerburtonca: i think i'll try to install 64bit ubuntu and figure out which one runs better
[23:23] <adam_____> I support free stuff and opensource if possible
[23:23] <adam_____> was meaning to switch to the linux one anyway
[23:24] <adam_____> for the last 2 years this set up has been golden
[23:24]  * Tunix looked at the unity-greeter source and cringed
[23:24] <ziew> btw. how to enable java in chromium? (i've installed java-7 already and it works with firefox, but not with chromium)
[23:24] <adam_____> the amount of reboots that windows forces, it's better for it to be in the vm
[23:25] <adam_____> it's really good to have both running
[23:25] <adam_____> I usually move over to ubuntu side to do git commands
[23:25] <adam_____> way quicker
[23:25] <adam_____> so best of both worlds if running side by side. Long deserted the dual boot thing
[23:26] <Leo_Verto> I used to have a dual-boot installation before, kinda broke my graphic drivers back then and used only win with linux in vms for a while
[23:26] <adam_____> although I'm actively moving to where I'm not using Windows at all
[23:26] <Leo_Verto> but 14.04 has made some pretty cool changes which made me go back to ubuntu again
[23:27] <Leo_Verto> Ubuntu One gone, automatic TRIM support and all those handy unity changes
[23:28] <jamesmcveity> I'm wondering if full disk encryption/LVM is best practice? I'm just trying to figure out what is most common.  I'm installing on a laptop.  Need to be able to share files with others.
[23:28] <adam_____> TRIM is just a cron job now :)
[23:28] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: think about the fact that you don't need to defrag
[23:29] <adam_____> I also like xubuntu
[23:29] <Leo_Verto> I got my SSD only recently
[23:29] <Tunix> Ubuntu One was way too slow anyway
[23:29] <Leo_Verto> but this setup is pretty nice, except for that orphaned mint installation I found today
[23:29] <minimec> jamesmcveity: There was an article on www.phoronix.com recently. Full encryption is much better than only encryption of the /home partition. Much better performance.
[23:29] <tylerburtonca> ziew, good luck!
[23:29] <adam_____> used xubuntu on one of my other machines.. very nice although didn't have some of the window stapping shortcuts I wanted
[23:30] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, what do you by "share files with others"?
[23:30] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I highly recommend trying an all ubuntu install with Windows quaranteened to a VM
[23:30] <Tunix> adam_____: you can configure that pretty well
[23:30] <johnja> I decided to assume my 2 month old ASRock POS motherboard is dead and plugged in an old PCIe ethernet card.  This seems to work just fine.  What package do I need to install to get gnome back?
[23:30] <adam_____> you can snapshot, turn off network
[23:30] <Leo_Verto> adam_____, will probably do that the next time Windows requires a reinstallation
[23:31] <adam_____> really good for running iffy software
[23:31] <adam_____> windows is full of viruses
[23:31] <adam_____> speed boost is great too
[23:31] <adam_____> linux flies on modern hardware
[23:31] <ziew> tylerburtonca: thank you
[23:31] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca: I just what to make sure that if I create a file on an encrypted drive that the data will be editable on another user's system.
[23:32] <adam_____> Leo_Verto: I've never looked back.. being free of windows as the ultimate OS is amazing
[23:32] <AnthonyUK> Hi people, I was wondering should I stick with 12.04 for the while until more how to's come out as I'm finding it a struggle to get things working like vnc and shared folders with windows
[23:32] <Drummit> no advice on conky manager not installing?
[23:32] <jamesmcveity> minimec: Thanks. I'm tracking the article down.
[23:32] <euryale> guys i want to record my desktop as video, what software do u recommend for ubuntu?
[23:32] <Tunix> windows 8.x runs pretty smooth, too, but that metro stuff is awkward
[23:33] <OerHeks> !info recordmydesktop
[23:33] <Drummit> eurryale: simple screen recorder, vokoscreen, record my desktop
[23:33] <euryale> ok thank ubottu, will try.
[23:33] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, once you've logged in and 'unlocked' the encryption its smart enough to know that any file you copy away from your PC (to a USB stick or whatever) should be copied without the encryption so you shouldn't have any trouble there
[23:33] <adam_____> Tunix: no deal.. giving up an OpenSource platform for no gains (in my view)
[23:34] <euryale> oh is this a command line program?
[23:35] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca: Thanks. I've always overlooked the option and I've been having troubling finding novice level info on why and how it works.
[23:35] <minimec> jamesmcveity: I am just digging it again. Just have a look on page 4 of the article for example ... ;) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_1404_encryption&num=4
[23:36] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, the easiest way, if perhaps not the most correct way, to think about it is that anything you configure to be encrypted when you configure the encryption will stay encrypted, but anything else (i.e. an external drive, an e-mail attachment, etc.) won't be
[23:36] <hesiodo> brand new trusty!
[23:36] <leurian_> hi everyonee!!
[23:37] <adam_____> hi
[23:37] <leurian> helo l!
[23:37] <Tunix> adam_____: i develop for windows during work time, for linux during free time
[23:37] <Drummit> hello
[23:37] <adam_____> Tunix: yep.. same
[23:37] <jamesmcveity> minimec: Great! thanks.
[23:37] <adam_____> but changing that asap
[23:37] <tylerburtonca> minimec, yeah that was a good article unfortunately for my home server I ended up just doing home directory encryption because I wanted it to autologin... which kind of defeats the purpose of encryption in the first place but whatever haha
[23:37] <adam_____> hence my vm for windows
[23:37] <adam_____> total PITA for how heavy the dev env is
[23:38] <minimec> tylerburtonca: It definitely does ;)
[23:38] <adam_____> #golang is a great gateway away from .net to linux
[23:38] <tylerburtonca> minimec, hey at least I get the swap encryption which I think gets a new key every boot
[23:38] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca, If you set a password for the disk encryption, is it also necessary to have the user login option as well?
[23:39] <adam_____> with intellij CE and golang plugin, it's the same experience as in VS
[23:39] <adam_____> but all on Linux
[23:39] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, entirely up to you. At that point you have some options based on how you prefer things to be :)
[23:40] <mkeer> I just installed Ubuntu on a Thinkpad T540p. Facing many issues: Touchpad barely works (kind of shaky, can't right click or middle click)... Doesn't stay connected to wifi or can't connect to it. The boot selection menu doesn't let me boot into windows (I need to change BIOS options to switch back and forth)...
[23:40] <snadge> i just got kicked out of ubuntu-release-party and ubuntu+1 ... its like.. once a new ubuntu comes out.. theres all this love.. then no love :p
[23:40] <jamesmcveity> tylerburtonca, thanks.  Much appreciated.
[23:40] <tylerburtonca> jamesmcveity, np
[23:40] <k1l_> snadge: you will get used to it :)
[23:40] <jamesmcveity> minimec, thanks again.
[23:41] <glumetu> hello can i have back wine1.4 ?
[23:41] <minimec> tylerburtonca: I do not encrypt until now, but after having read the article... I might...
[23:41] <minimec> jamesmcveity: No problem.
[23:41] <crocket> I failed to upgrade ubuntu because PPA packages overrode ubuntu packages.
[23:41] <crocket> damn
[23:41] <k1l_> glumetu: install wine1.4 package
[23:41] <snadge> so the period of time between a stable release.. and the next release announce.. there's all these ubuntu addicts.. who are cast out onto the street.. homeless, with nowhere to go
[23:41] <snadge> :P
[23:42] <k1l_> snadge: we got #ubuntu-offtopic for that :)
[23:42] <Tunix> ppas and upgrades...fun...all night...
[23:42] <crocket> Should I manually install ubuntu 14.10 and reinstall packages?
[23:42] <edgardo> Hola Gente soy nuevo alguno habla español. soy de Argentina
[23:42] <k1l_> !ar | edgardo
[23:42] <adam_____> crocket: just dealt with that today
[23:42] <xtjacob> Does anyone have experience with bad packet loss on a ralink 5390? I'm running 14.04.
[23:42] <adam_____> need a hand?
[23:42] <crocket> adam_____, How did you do it?
[23:43] <adam_____> you can see the log
[23:43] <k1l_> crocket: use ppapurge to get rid of that ppas and packages. that will reinstall the oroginal ubuntu pakcages
[23:43] <tux_> good evening people so who is using 14.04 lts
[23:43] <k1l_> !ppapurge | crocket
[23:43] <k1l_> tux_: a lot of users are. but better ask a real support question :)
[23:44] <tylerburtonca> minimec, the performance impact is so little I don't see why not. Also on SSDs where the drive controller does automatic wear leveling if you ever don't use encryption you can't be 100% sure that you'll ever be able to override that old data.
[23:45] <Tunix> is the code name of 14.10 already out?
[23:45] <k1l_> Tunix: not that i am aware of
[23:46] <minimec> tylerburtonca: As I told you... I might ;) You're absolutely right... I have a Intel 240GB msata SSD in my Lenovo x230...
[23:46]  * Tunix favors Unuoccupied Unicorn
[23:46] <MHodge> Would anyone know what causes Ubuntu 14.04 to crash after waking?
[23:46] <k1l_> MHodge: best is to see the logs and not to guess :)
[23:47] <glumetu> k1l when i do apt-get install wine1.4 it installs 1.6
[23:47] <adam_____> crocket: i did it without ppa purge
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> glumetu: Umm... that's a good thing.
[23:47] <glumetu> it should be but it doesn;t work for me
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> !info wine
[23:47] <MHodge> I'll do that. :)
[23:47] <SonikkuAmerica> glumetu: And why not?
[23:48] <crocket> adam_____, How?
[23:48] <k1l_> glumetu: well yes, just saw it redirects to wine 1.6 in trustsy
[23:48] <minimec> MHodge: You might be able to check that yourself. Try to disable bluetooth & wifi for a try and then suspend. The two are often the source of problems. Also some USB devices like DVB cards might be the cause...
[23:48] <adam_____> crocket: do the install with "sudo do-release-update"
[23:48] <glumetu> let's say they did sommeting with connection and 1.6 doesn't let my app connect to internet
[23:48] <adam_____> it will error out after a bit
[23:49] <adam_____> press 'x' to exit
[23:49] <darkangel> how does 1 host a website with ubuntu 14.04
[23:49] <glumetu> i would like to stick with the old realy stable wine1.4
[23:49] <MHodge> I disable wifi and unfortunately I lost the drivers for my bluetooth. :(
[23:49] <AnthonyUK> anyone know of a guide/how to for shared folders on windows that will work in 14.04?
[23:49] <adam_____> then paste the output of "grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log" using pastebin
[23:50] <adam_____> We'll take a look and see if you have any fishy stuff installed
[23:50] <adam_____> we'll "sudo apt-get remove" them
[23:50] <crocket> adam_____, I have overriden graphics driver and some system packages.
[23:50] <crocket> adam_____, I think ppa-purge would be faster.
[23:50] <adam_____> ok
[23:51] <adam_____> then do that.. for me it was cinnamon
[23:51] <adam_____> if you don't purge and just remove, when you reinstall, the settings should still be there
[23:52] <adam_____> anyway.. it seemed ppa-purge wasn't enough for me
[23:52] <k1l_> well, cinnamon is put out of the debian and ubuntu repos.
[23:53] <SonikkuAmerica> k1l_: Cinnamon is gone? For good?
[23:53] <adam_____> there was a few others I removed
[23:53] <nf7> Could someone help me? I follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx , but my stick doesn't appear in the list of bootable devices when I boot my Mac. It will work on a regular PC though. And I am using the 14.04+Mac version of the iso.
[23:53] <adam_____> did a chunk of them by gettingrid of kde
[23:54] <trism> SonikkuAmerica: not for good it was moved to debian unstable, might see it in 14.10
[23:54] <k1l_> SonikkuAmerica: yep. mate is now in the repos, iirc
[23:54] <adam_____> need to reinstall a few things now
[23:54]  * minimec just wants to share his happiness with you. Playing and chatting on a Toshiba ac100 KitKat/14.04 dual boot. Thats an ARM/Tegra2 device with 512MB RAM! e17 is running really well. Cool little baby. OK... It's offtopic ;)
[23:54] <euryale> hi guys!
[23:54] <basketball> can i get google desktop version in ubuntu
[23:55] <euryale> installed the amd 13.4 driver in ubuntu
[23:55] <Tunix> minimec: grats
[23:55] <euryale> i got an error log. but havent read that because it needed to reboot, and so i did, but now can't login to gui.
[23:55] <glumetu> congratulation ubuntu team .. verry fast boot time
[23:55] <nf7> Can anyone help me with my Mac installation problem?
[23:55]  * adam_____ happy about never buying into the Apple hype
[23:55] <Tunix> e17 is strange though
[23:56] <tylerburtonca> Anyone able to get auto-login to work? I've noticed that if I create a second account, that new account has the option to auto-login but not my primary (first created during install) account. I've also tried manually editing lightdm.conf but no luck. Anything else I can try?
[23:56] <minimec> Tunix: The 'linux community' is just great. We use uboot instead of android fastboot now and I can use 3.14 or even 3.15 kernels on ubuntu. Android is stillon 3.1...
[23:56] <euryale> @Holstein. Can u help me remove the proprietary driver for amd?
[23:57] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, was the Auto Login enabled when you installed the OS?
[23:57] <minimec> euryale: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[23:57] <glumetu> euryale you can do that from software center
[23:58] <euryale> im currently at tty, i have no access to desktop since intalling the amd driver.
[23:58] <minimec> euryale: maybe 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' afterwards.
[23:58] <k1l_> euryale: did you try nomodeset?
[23:58] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, I don't believe I ever had the option
[23:58] <Tunix> fglrx brings up bad memories...
[23:58] <euryale> no i havent tried nomodeset.
[23:59] <euryale> maybe i'll just remove it to be safe, i don't want to reinstall ubuntu again.
[23:59] <MHodge> tylerburtonca: It should have been on the same page when you set up your computer name and password before installing.
[23:59] <minimec> I would even go further... AMD brings up bad memories...
[23:59] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, hmm well either way its installed now but the option is not there for that one particular account in Settings > Users
[23:59] <euryale> @minimec. after purging fglrx it will go back to default drivers?
[23:59] <minimec> euryale: Yes.