[09:51] OvenWerk1: Ah, I didn't realize it always shows. Yeah, we should look at hiding that [18:50] From another bug report the BT icon is at least supposed to "dim" or "grey" when turned off. [19:26] df [19:26] oops... === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [20:28] OvenWerk1: Ok, so the fault is not entirely ours then? [20:29] (or, mine - I added that stuff pretty late, out of worry that we wouldn't have bluethooths support) [20:43] This release is not really well off right now. Let's hope we can make 14.04.1 a better one [20:51] zequence: So far it is not bad. I do have a wish list :) [20:51] It would be nice to have two half backgrounds for use with dual monitors for example. [20:52] But a lot of stuff is out of our hands too. We are still dealing with the fall out of the gtk 2 -> 3 thing. [20:53] This looks to be a long term thing and there is also an underlying move to qt in some places as well. [20:54] though for us that will make less of a difference. Ardour is gtk,,, gimp etc. We have the qt (and kde) libs anyway. [20:57] I don't think we should be worrying too much about the graphical libs used. Just to make sure anything works [20:57] i tend to use Gnome myself, but I don't really want to push one or the other on our users. What we should focus on is multimedia content production [20:58] Ya, what I am saying is that we can't do much about the desktop itself, but just make sure the apps work. [20:58] Yep [20:58] I haven't tried them all, but so far I have had a good experience. [20:59] What I would mostly want to focus on is making us as DE agnostic as possible. [20:59] +1 [21:00] We should start a discussion soon about the next cycle, and perhaps also the next two years [21:01] I feel we have not been able to deliver a lot to this release, which was my personal hope, which is why I'm devoted to make sure 16.04 becomes a great release instead [21:01] In the next two years it looks like ubuntu (and Dedian) are going through the switch to systemd. This makes me wonder what is going to happen with MIR or wayland. [21:02] that is an interesting turn :) [21:02] I hope these things don't directly affect us too much, but it will make worth while to keep 14.04 up to date [21:03] Yes, and it would be good for us to learn how to maintain a release, and also refresh it with updates [21:03] Not just security wise, or fixing bugas [21:03] bugs* [21:05] I'm going to return to an old movie classic for a while. After easter, I really want us to start talking about the future, and what we should do. No, also, since we have an olde developer ( stochastic ) back with us [21:06] replace no with now :) [21:06] Ya, he sounds like he has more assets with code than most of us (certainly me anyway) [21:24] Interesting, It seems pulse works best through jack with 2048 frames. [21:24] The desktop apps seem to expect the extra latency [21:26] In videos (where it matters) it seems to be about the best match timing wise. [21:33] Probably for piping skype into a live situation 512 is about right though. 128 is probably about minimum.