[00:01] Unit193, again [00:01] look at the right/left aligned images when going very narrow [00:02] Oi, big jump indeed. [00:05] wondering if i should do some more optimization, but i guess i'll leave that for another day/night [00:26] Unit193, http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-website/xubuntu-website/theme/revision/45 [00:34] time to go fill some crosswords, then to bed [00:34] nighty! [00:57] if you want columns, and you want it to not suck at low resolutions, then use bootstrap [01:53] ochosi: your tahr is in the wild (hehe) http://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/ubuntu-1404-trusty-tahr-lts-has-been.html [02:06] hi all, i was trying the xubuntu 14.04 and noticed when i disable bluetooth from the panel, it didnt change to a dimmed icon [04:09] hi guys sorry for the noob question but i've installed 14.04 and am looking to install the latest dev version. been having trouble finding it [04:10] waymon: ? [04:10] waymon: you are looking for 14.10? [04:10] you'll need to wait a while.. [04:10] ooo, yeah, 14.10 would be great [04:10] waymon: *will* be great [04:10] waymon: its not available yet [04:11] i know it's not stable, i just wanna play with it [04:14] no dice? [04:16] waymon: its not that its not stable, friend.. it literally doesnt exist yet [04:16] waymon: if you want the freshest ubuntu code, install 14.04 and update [04:16] waymon: if you want newer/relevant, try debian testing [04:17] oh okay, i see [04:21] holstein: Debian unstable or experimental, testing isn't as new as those. [04:21] Unit193: i think its unstable i was thinking of [04:21] waymon: ^ [04:22] i forget that testing isnt the newest... [04:24] side question: has anyone tried to install gnunet? [04:25] !info gnunet [04:25] gnunet (source: gnunet): secure, trust-based peer-to-peer framework (meta). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9.3-7build1 (trusty), package size 2 kB, installed size 47 kB [04:25] waymon: should be as easy as "sudo apt-get install gnunet" [04:25] you'd think so [04:25] it's not the latest version tho [04:25] 0.10 is the new shit [04:27] !language [04:27] The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList [04:27] waymon: you can ask them for the latest version for the operatin system you are using [04:27] my bad [04:27] Debian doesn't have the new version, thus Ubuntu doesn't either (Yes, Ubuntu can get newer versions, and does all the time, but that's not high priority.) [04:28] waymon: *buntu typically "freezes" versions, and gets security updates.. rolling releases would get the latest as they come out [04:28] you can add ppa's, or build whatever you like [04:32] yeah, i'm just trying to figure out where to get the latest gnunet [04:32] it has a bunch of dependencies that are super high versions [04:34] waymon: ppa [04:34] waymon: try ppa, then ask them for a package, or for what you are supposed to do [04:42] oooo found this if anyone else is interested https://gnunet.org/content/installing-gnunet-0101-ubuntu-1404 [04:42] im ok with the repo version.. [04:43] I've never used gnunet once in my life. Though, not much of a development question. [06:19] hi all, just tweeting a number of problems i saw during trying out 14.04 like network links not showing on desktop - http://img.ly/yEij - https://twitter.com/jphilipz/status/457396969363607552 [06:24] Correct gvfs tools installed? Find them in Thunar alright? [06:35] Logan_: Awwh dang man, you're not in ~ubuntu-backporters! :( [07:04] Unit193: I feel like backporting is kinda dead [07:05] Considering they pinned it at 100? Yeah, stuck with stale applications for good. :/ [07:20] Unit193: having them install automatically would imply that they're supported :P [07:22] Logan_: I suppose no better way now or in the works? [07:22] PPAs? [07:23] I said better. :P [07:23] hi Logan_ [07:23] you need the user to explicitly realize that they are installing unsupported software [07:23] Logan_: Shouldn't you be sleeping, prepping for class? :P [07:23] Indeed. [07:23] if we can hack apt to say "this is available, but it's not supported because it's a backport," then I think we have a plan on our hands :) [07:24] and hey elfy [07:24] Though, the source should be pretty good, not just some random joe. [07:24] and no, it's a Friday night, silly [07:24] I do what all college students do on Friday nights [07:24] go on IRC [07:24] :P [07:24] lol [07:24] well, I was invited to a party [07:24] Unit193 calls the kettle black - unbelievable :p [07:25] elfy: Nah, he's just more sane than I am. [07:25] :) [07:25] me? sane? :P [07:25] elfy: To me, you normally get on at 2am, which is "morning there", but still considered 2am. :P [07:25] ha ha ha [07:25] Logan_: I actually remember your TZ, because it's same here. [07:26] are you in the US? [07:26] actually, I probably shouldn't bother asking because you're anonymous [07:26] so clearly you keep your identity private :P [07:26] Logan_: Ohioooooooooo. [07:27] ah [07:27] by the way, I didn't mean to offend you if your legal name is in fact "Unit 193" [07:27] I'm not anonymous - I really are elfy and forestpiskie [07:27] Logan_: Hey, even Debian considers me "Unit 193" [07:45] Logan_: ...Having fun with ubottu now? :P [07:45] there are some weird factoids that need to be deleted [07:45] see http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi?search=love [07:47] run those commands in order, and we should be good :) [07:48] night all [07:48] G'night. [07:48] night Logan_ [08:14] brainwash: morning [08:14] good morning elfy [10:07] good morning everyone! [10:26] Unit193, i just figured out how to link that style with the wordpress gallery. yay! [10:32] elfy, poke [10:32] elfy, check out http://xstaging.lallinaho.fi/2014/04/18/image-alignment-testing-post/ [10:33] what am I looking at that for? [10:33] resize the screen horizontally [10:33] and look at the images [10:33] err, s/screen/window/ [10:34] that appears to work :) [10:34] cool [10:34] looking to land that stuff soonish [10:35] i've now figured a miles better way to do it than late yesterday night [10:35] :) [10:35] the editor side still needs working though [10:35] :| [10:36] not sure if i'm able to get that completely right, it seems to have some quirks [10:36] (not showing medium-sized images, while the shortcode defines that, and works on the public facing side) [10:36] but i guess that's a minor issue [10:37] I'd guess that you're guess is better than mine :) [10:38] *your [10:38] :P [10:38] well it is a minor annoyance [10:38] :p [10:38] but there doesn't seem to be much to do about it unless you want to poke the wordpress core... and that's meh [10:38] and not possible with canonical IS [10:39] ... [10:39] but yeah, i wouldn't do that with my clients' sites either [10:39] it would break upgrades completely [10:39] * elfy is looking at rejigging the package testsuites for unicorn [10:39] smaller [10:40] hehe [12:03] bluesabre, whatever... fix it. [12:03] :) [12:04] gotta know what's broken [12:04] since it worked for me all the way to release day [12:04] haven't tested today [12:04] ;) [12:04] but I don't see why anything would have changed [12:04] yeah... we should fix it for "people". [12:05] but afaik, my suggestion is a working workaround [12:05] so if you don't happen to be around, i will tell them that [12:07] but that won't help... since xscreensaver doesn't control suspending [12:08] if it won't help, they will come back [12:33] bluesabre, ping, #xubuntu [13:31] knome: does adding the guest session stuff to lightdm.conf actually work? https://help.ubuntu.com/stable/ubuntu-help/shell-guest-session.html [13:31] elfy, yes, but the link you pasted has a better way to do it [13:31] ok [13:31] basically, it does the same thing, outside the xubuntu file [13:31] didn't want to spam #xubuntu [13:31] and is removable as is [13:32] and since the setting probably covers all flavors anyway... [13:32] * elfy still has 'what DID they do to lightdm" on his list [13:32] heh [13:33] amigamagic, actually, redirecting to the page elfy noted [13:34] knome, ok I didn't find that... [13:34] amigamagic, oh me, that's not working properly [13:34] >__< [13:34] what is that doesn't work? [13:34] works now [13:34] the redirect, but i fixed it [13:35] on that page elfy pasted, the method is slightly different... It works on 14.04 ? [13:36] amigamagic: those lightdm files are all new to 14.04 [13:36] amigamagic, it does practically the same thing [13:37] amigamagic, but instead of editing the xubuntu file, it creates a new one [13:37] amigamagic, which works, like the xubuntu file, for all flavors [13:37] amigamagic, also, this means the xubuntu conf file is upgradeable by future xubuntu upgrades without having to worry/ask the user which version they want [13:38] ok [13:39] the .d directory works like /etc/apt/sources.list.d/ [13:39] all the files in that are read as if they were in /etc/apt/sources.list [13:39] in this case, as if they were in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf [13:39] the numbers in the files determine the order they are ran in [13:39] elfy, ^ [13:41] why 50 and 60 as numbers? [13:41] elfy, does that answer some of your questions? [13:41] * elfy thought as much - but hadn't tracked the info down yet - thanks :) [13:41] amigamagic, well, consider you had 1, 2, 3 and wanted to add something between 1 and 2 [13:41] amigamagic, you would have to rename files 2 and 3 to 3 and 4 [13:42] ok, I understand, but... 50? [13:42] well, why not? [13:42] the bigger the number, the bigger the chance the modification is taking preference [13:42] so you could make run 49 configuration files before it? [13:42] yes. [13:42] practically, yes.. [13:43] the number itself is irrelevant... [13:43] ok [13:43] but from the users point of view, it's better that it is 50 than 20 [13:43] because if in 14.10, people decided to force guest sessions, and it happened to be 20... [13:44] it would be a race condition; whichever file had the "bigger" filename [13:44] 20_xubuntu_enable_guest.conf would take preference [13:44] while 20_enable_guest.conf would not [13:44] the developers can't know what files the user has in their directory [13:44] so they will most probably just add the next incremental number (*10) [13:46] so, after the number, the precedence it's given to the longer filename? [13:47] well, the "bigger" when compared... [13:47] x > aaa [13:48] ok, so it's a standard sorting method based on the filename [13:48] yes [13:49] thanks for the info [13:49] np === [1]amigamagic is now known as amigamagic [14:35] bbl -> [17:29] i learned the basics of c++ and now i want to learn how to develop for linux. what is the next step to learn or to do? [17:39] 4. i want to resize windows. you should point in the exactly same pixel to resize or close or move [17:39] 5. there is not able to connect lubuntu and xubuntu in ssh [17:39] 6. double click in titlebar or drag to up wont set to maximize [17:40] *6: only drag it to upper side [18:49] bug 1310045 [18:49] bug 1310045 in unity-greeter (Ubuntu) "flicker at login" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1310045 [18:49] ^ :D [18:50] bluesabre: should we merge https://code.launchpad.net/~thad-fisch/lightdm-gtk-greeter/zoomed ? I planned to add more resize methods and so on, but lost the interest [18:54] lol [18:56] so we are 1 step ahead :) [19:01] what exactly does that do? [19:02] my branch? [19:03] yes [19:03] it zooms the background AND puts it in the center of the screen [19:03] like xfdesktop does [19:03] currently the greeter only zooms it [19:05] so you see the top part if your background pic does not fit your screen [19:07] to that channel [19:08] ? [19:09] hit the wrong button, lol, sorry [19:09] ah ok [19:10] was typing in another channel and it must have popped over here [19:16] <23LAAFBCU> I have a Xubuntu 13.10 install on an old machine that insists on locking the screen after suspend/resume. I've checked settings for xscreensaver and power management, and even removed those packages. I updated to 14.04 and the problem persists. I disabled light-locker, and even removed it as well. I still get a locked screen after resuming. I asked in #xubuntu channel but someone suggested I ask here. Google [19:16] <23LAAFBCU> was not helpful, too much fodder. [19:17] <23LAAFBCU> What else could be locking my screen? [19:18] how does the lock screen look like? [19:20] <23LAAFBCU> it looks just like the screen i get if i log out, so lightdm i think [19:21] ok, but didn't you remove light-locker already? [19:21] <23LAAFBCU> bar at the top..computer name on the left top, a few buttons at the top left with session, logoff buttons [19:21] <23LAAFBCU> yes i tried that out of desperation [19:22] and did you relog once after removing it? [19:22] <23LAAFBCU> removed xfce-power-manager, xscreensaver, and light-locker after making sure they werent set to lock the screen [19:22] <23LAAFBCU> yes, rebooted [19:23] that's odd === matthew is now known as Guest95137 === Guest95137 is now known as MHodge [19:25] <23LAAFBCU> let me try another reboot just to make sure [19:25] just to make sure, it's the lightdm lock screen and not the normal login screen, right? [19:25] <23LAAFBCU> it looked jsut like the screen i see if i logout [19:25] so you unlock you user account and get redirected to your running session? [19:25] your user account [19:26] <23LAAFBCU> im using autologin with light dm, there's no prompt when i boot up. Only fater a suspend [19:26] <23LAAFBCU> after** [19:27] does "pgrep light-locker" return any output? [19:27] <23LAAFBCU> ill check here when it finishes rebooting [19:28] <23LAAFBCU> im not sure if this is realted but i should mention it....it also doesnt seem to save the state of opened windows..that would be the saved session right? [19:28] after you unlock? [19:29] <23LAAFBCU> yes [19:29] this indicates that your running session crashed [19:29] so the system returns to the login screen [19:30] <23LAAFBCU> oh [19:30] <23LAAFBCU> i see [19:30] <23LAAFBCU> is there a log i can find info in to confirm this is happening [19:31] there are a few, like the general system log file /var/log/syslog [19:31] or lightdm related logs in /var7log/lightdm/ [19:31] /var/log/lightdm/ [19:31] <23LAAFBCU> its an old beast of a computer...should probably have died long ago but, it supports s3 and s1 [19:31] and X session related ones in ~/.cache/upstart/ === DalekSec_ is now known as DalekSec [19:32] <23LAAFBCU> i think ive looked in syslog, and found nothing that stood out to me [19:32] mmh [19:33] also check /var/log/pm-suspend.log to get some info about the actual suspend/resume cycle [19:34] suspend issues can be an annoyance [19:36] <23LAAFBCU> yeah....i seem to recall it working properly at first though i cant be sure anymore [19:37] hi all, i just tried out xubuntu 14.04 and noticed a few things that i wanted to bring to the dev team [19:38] <23LAAFBCU> it didnt occur to me it could be the session crashing though..at least I have another way to look at the problem now..thank you [19:39] <23LAAFBCU> I'll see what i can find and get back to you if I have any more info a bit later if youre areound..thanks sir [19:43] firstly i had noticed that the country i'm living in 'United Arab Emirates' had incorrect time information - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1310065 [19:43] Launchpad bug 1310065 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "incorrect time information for UAE" [Undecided,New] [19:45] ubottu: yet thats the first problem i found [19:45] jphilipz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:45] ubottu: glad to know it :) [19:45] jphilipz: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [19:46] Aurvandill, get to know the xfce code. aiui, it's mostly in pure C though. [19:46] while on the live cd as well as after the installation, the bluetooth icon doesnt go dim after i disable bluetooth - http://img.ly/yEi5 [19:48] also in the installer, the scrollbars need to be disable for the slide show - http://img.ly/yEiC [19:49] knome thx [19:50] during the slide show i noticed that some headings were smaller than text underneath it - http://t.co/u30Hupb2MZ [19:50] jphilipz, i'm not sure if the bluetooth icon should dim or not when it's not enabled... but i would check if there is a bug for that, and file if not. it's a wishlist/low level one though [19:51] jphilipz, the installer scrollbars are known, but we are unable to triage it since many cycles. it's disappeared for most people though, so not a high-priority bug either... what was your installation resolution? [19:51] knome: what package should i file that under [19:51] jphilipz, headings, not a bug. [19:52] jphilipz, indicator-bluetooth [19:52] knome: not a tech bug, likely a design issue [19:52] it's a design decision [19:52] the header text itself isn't very important, but splits the two paragraphs nicely [19:53] well another design decision i thought i'd bring up was such small icons on the 'ready to go' slide when there is alot of space on the slide - http://t.co/6BTzrqDJ93 [19:54] well as the heading is 'We need your help!' it being larger might catch peoples attention [19:55] is there a particular indicator-bluetooth package for xubuntu [19:55] jphilipz, i rather have smaller icons and plenty of padding that a too packed slide [19:55] jphilipz, "particular" package? [19:56] knome: well i landed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-bluetooth [19:56] that's it. [19:56] and that seems to be for ubuntu [19:56] xubuntu uses the same package repositories as ubuntu, so every "xubuntu package" is a ubuntu package [19:57] jphilipz, you can run 'ubuntu-bug indicator-bluetooth' in the terminal, and relevant information is posted to the bug report. [19:58] knome: i'll give that a shot [19:59] knome: you asked about my screen size, its 1280x768 [20:01] jphilipz, can you "me too" bug 986283 and add your resolution as a comment [20:01] bug 986283 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Window too small, scrollbars are displayed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986283 [20:01] as you see, that bug is filed two years ago and there hasn't been too much activity... [20:03] knome: i've me too'd [20:04] tbh, i thought that bug was gone... [20:06] about the small icons, ye most of them are still recognizable but abiword and gnumeric arent really [20:08] bumping them up from 16 to 22 will make them easier to see [20:08] especially as these days, screen are getting bigger and bigger [20:08] :) [20:12] screens are bigger, but resolutions usually not [20:13] so 16px might even be bigger than before... [20:13] i bet that installer scrollbar issue is related to screen DPI, ie not directly related to resolution [20:14] ali1234, if you can confirm that, it's a step forward... [20:14] forcing 96 DPI is pretty much a requirement everywhere [20:14] jphilipz: do you happen to know the DPI on your monitor? [20:15] knome: do we have a screenshot of the installer looking "correct" somewhere? [20:17] ali1234: let me get that for you, have to turn the laptop on again [20:17] jphilipz: if you could check it in the livecd that would be even better... [20:17] okay, let me burn the iso to a usb [20:18] also, did you run the installer from desktop session? [20:18] "install now" or "try ubuntu" [20:18] yes from desktop session [20:18] okay [20:19] knome: how are the slides done? are they just bitmaps? [20:19] ali1234, ergh, they are html [20:19] ali1234, lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu [20:20] ah, okay then. so that makes DPI issue more likely... [20:21] is there someway to run that as a "preview" fromt he desktop? [20:22] ie without having to boot the livecd? [20:22] ali1234, yep, get the branch, then run ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu [20:23] thanks [20:25] yup, works fine here... [20:25] well about resolutions not getting bigger, w3schools.com has 78% of users above my laptop resolution and on my desktop (1440x900), the 16px icons are similarly as small if not smaller, as i'm farther away from the screen [20:25] w3fools.com [20:26] jphilipz: yeah it's not the resolution though, it's the DPI [20:26] if the DPI is different, elements may grow, causing the scrollbars [20:26] well the scrollbars were one thing, and the icons were a different thing [20:27] okay. i didnt read all the log :) [20:28] where do i go for the dpi [20:28] xdpyinfo | grep dots [20:29] forgot to modify grub for my keyboard, need restart again [20:30] ali1234, is there a way to reproduce the bug with any monitor? [20:30] xfce has a "DPI override" [20:30] look at this: http://imagebin.org/306533 [20:30] ali1234, pumping up the DPI only made the text so big it was outside the visible area [20:30] 96 [20:30] hmm [20:31] okay it isn't DPI then [20:31] does it happen on every page of the slideshow? [20:31] when it does, it does [20:31] every page for me [20:31] in my screenshot, the text is further down the page [20:32] ali1234, if i could reproduce, i could look at things to do to make that not happen [20:32] but since i can't... [20:32] how about making #slideshow width and height 100% instead of fixed px? [20:32] knome: you want me to run any command to help your testing [20:32] i can't reproduce either, at least not without booting up a livecd [20:33] jphilipz: you could check if it happens with a regular unity iso [20:33] if it doesn't, we can just steal their CSS :) [20:33] no it didnt happen when i installed ubuntu 14.04, if i remember correctly [20:34] jphilipz, bzr branch lp:ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu [20:34] jphilipz, cd ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu [20:34] jphilipz, ./test-slideshow.sh xubuntu [20:34] jphilipz, and tell if the scrollbars are visible now [20:34] it looks like the test thing never shows scrollbars [20:35] the slideshow only happens after the installation files have started copying and i've answered all the dialogs [20:35] jphilipz, no, in your installed system... [20:36] i think i know what to do to fix that, but i'm not sure how to test if it works.... [20:37] hmm look at slideshow.conf for ubuntu [20:37] width:752 height:442 [20:37] knome: okay let me boot the os then [20:37] they added 2 pixels to each [20:37] i wonder why? ;) [20:37] ali1234, but their css says the same widths. [20:37] wouldnt it be simpler to disable scrollbars in the window and that would solve it [20:38] jphilipz, that's what we're doing. but it's not working [20:38] knome: okay [20:38] what we really need to do is enable scrollbars on the test app [20:39] because disabling them there does work [20:39] and it is masking the problem [20:40] ali1234, bzr branch lp:~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/scrollbar-fix-986283 [20:40] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~knome/ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu/scrollbar-fix-986283/revision/628 [20:40] that looks like something that could very well fix the bug. [20:41] ah i noticed that difference too :) [20:41] just saw it... [20:41] but since i can't reproduce... :) [20:42] the test app runs inside this Slideshow.py [20:47] okay i ran the commands and there is scrollbars [20:48] hmmmm [20:48] there is no scrollbars, sorry [20:48] okay, that makes more sense [20:49] knome: is ubiquity proper Qt now or still Gtk? [20:49] * knome shrugs [20:50] i can run another installation and run any commands if you like [20:50] ali1234: ubiquity has two frontens - qt and gtk. xubuntu uses gtk [20:50] hi xnox. any idea about these scrollbars? [20:51] jphilipz, since the bug isn't reproducible with the testing script, not sure if that would help much... [20:51] ali1234: no idea what you are asking about. [20:51] bug 986283 [20:51] bug 986283 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu (Ubuntu) "Window too small, scrollbars are displayed" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/986283 [20:51] xnox: ubiquity-slideshow web component has scrollbars [20:52] damn memory, now i'll remember that bug number for a week :| [20:52] xnox: which frontend does ubuntu use? [20:56] it should be possibly to instrument gtk_ui.py from real ubiquity and try to reproduce that way [20:57] ali1234: is it reproducible in english locale, only only in longer languages - e.g. french like in the bug report? [20:58] not sure but the bottom comment has a screenshow that is in english [20:58] tbh, i think my branch linked to the bug should fix the issue. [20:58] ali1234: it is related to the default theme, lack of overlay scrollbars, slideshow itself, and the size metrics declared by the slideshow. [20:58] but somebody should be able to reproduce that bug, then run the same environment with the new branch [20:58] ali1234: try tweaking the declared sizes of the slideshow it it's manifest. [20:58] i filled this bug at xfce after seeing it in xubuntu - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10831 [20:58] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10831 in general "network link names with %20" [Normal,New] [20:59] xnox: the problem is we can't reproduce it with the test-slideshow.sh from the slideshow package [20:59] because it is hardcoded to never show scrollbars [20:59] xnox, ^ see my comments. this is the first time i hear about this bug in probably two years, and i thought it was already gone... [21:00] if you google "xubuntu installer" and look at image results there a screenshot supposedly from 13.10 showing this bug :) [21:00] possibly [21:01] knome: about the bluetooth icon dimming, i just tried ubuntu and their icon dims [21:03] knome: i fix it with ubuntu slideshow every gtk update, every theme update, and every unity update.... [21:03] xnox, >__< [21:03] xnox: but how do you test it without rebuilding a full iso? [21:04] ali1234: in a live cd, you can modify files in place and restart the installer. [21:04] ali1234: also probably easier to do an oem install and keep on restarting oem client config. [21:04] okay. i'm going to try to make a test harness which is more similar to real ubiquity [21:04] xnox, i don't think oem installations work for xubuntu... [21:07] another bug i reported with xfce after trying xubuntu - https://bugzilla.xfce.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10834 [21:07] bugzilla.xfce.org bug 10834 in General "network links not showing on desktop" [Normal,New] [21:07] jphilipz, yes, we noticed the bug [21:07] hey at least they show up in plugin-places now [21:07] knome: both of them [21:07] hmm, right [21:08] jphilipz, %20 is space, so it might be normal [21:08] well if you look at the screenshot, it only happens in thunar [21:09] was wondering, can you install grub on an extended partition [21:10] was also wondering why the search for time zones in ubiquity is case sensitive [21:11] bluesabre, i just filed two new bugs against menulibre. minor, but nonetheless. [21:11] must be mistaken, it must be just slow [21:14]