[00:06] when I launch some app, is there no visual feedback of its loading? [00:13] What determines if apt-get asks to confirm: "After this operation, 853 kB of additional disk space will be used." [00:13] "Do you want to continue? [Y/n]" [00:14] sometimes it just goes straight ahead and downloads 50mb of data, other times (like above) it asks to confirm even for a few kb [00:20] it only asks for confirmation if the package you want to install, depends on other packages ... which the also have to be installed [00:21] having a problem with light locker. if i allow to lock on suspend when lid closes the monitor wont activate when i reopen the lid [00:32] I hope someday xfce will fix the horrible desktop icon management [00:32] not in 14.04 [00:36] yeah... like, let icons gravitate from corners other than upper left [00:36] and horizontally as well as vertically [00:37] and they keep rearranging themselves at each reboot [00:37] i don't use them much anyway, but it would be nice to have those settings... [00:38] the desktop metaphor doesn't work. It's more like a 2D menu. [00:48] So I did chmod 700 home [00:48] and now i have problems [00:48] yo know when configuring thunderbird -> there is an option to play system sound on email arrival. Question - I don't think I've ever had any system sounds in xubuntu -> are system sounds a thing? and how do I get them? [00:48] i was trying to make my home folder not encrypted anymore [00:49] now i can't go into my home folder or open a file manager [00:49] any ideas? [01:21] does xfce panel have volume plugin -> without it appearing in indicators area? [01:31] confused by indicators -> can one "minimize to indicators" as one would "minimize in the tray"? [01:32] how do you mean? [01:33] ddsss I've never seen xfce minimize to the task bar (tray) but I can't imagine that one CAN'T ... [01:33] ddsss ask the #xfce channel [01:34] cfhowlett, you have seen a spinning wheel when launching apps? I've never seen that in xubuntu 14.04... [01:34] cfhowlett, hmm. wasn't that a simple thing? For example I can minimize audacious into tray and restore from there. same with thuinderbird. [01:34] amigamagic well, there IS the macbuntu project but that has more bugs than a picnic of stinky cheese [01:35] ddsss as I said, I haven't seen it, but that doesn't mean it's not there. could be as simple as installing compiz - which rather defeats the XFCE "light and easy" design IMHO [01:35] what is IMHO? [01:36] In My Honest Opinion [01:36] ok [01:36] thanks [01:37] cfhowlett, you have not answered to me... Have you ever seen a spinning wheel when you launch an app in xubuntu 14.04 ? [01:37] amigamagic I think Macbuntu has one ... [01:38] so you have not... [01:39] If I'm right, standard ubuntu distro has a sort of feedback when you launch some app [01:39] Im a little bit slow. but you are trying to have a icon of y our application in your indicator applet? [01:39] I would like to have a visual feedback when my app (firefox, libreoffice, etc.) is loading [01:40] I don't have an SSD, so there are loading times... [01:40] how? [01:40] like a loading bar? [01:41] peyam, like the mouse pointer that changes its shape [01:41] yeah yeah.. like in mac and windows? [01:41] sow what's the point of a thunderbird indicator for example -> If I still have to keep program minimized? [01:41] yes [01:41] intressting question [01:41] amigamagic I'm no expert but #xfce designed the interface so they would have to know [01:41] amigamagic, ddsss you are talking about same issue? im very confused [01:42] cfhowlett, there is a "startup notification" in the option of the launcher [01:42] but to me it doesn't do absolutely nothing [01:42] amigamagic I must have it turned off then ... :) [01:42] I'm sure you will not see any difference anyway [01:43] peyam, there is a "notification area" plugin (tray) and indicator plugin - and they do kinda the same things. which si weird to me. [01:43] yes.. they are .. in my experince some programs turns to one of them. and not both [01:43] so I have both [01:46] I have only one plugin indicator [01:46] I didn't see other ones [01:47] amigamagic, "Notification area" -> try toggling it [01:47] indicator and notification [01:48] ah that... [01:48] yes I have that one [01:48] amigamagic, some icons appear in "notification area" and some appear in "indicator plugin" - weird [01:48] amigamagic, I think I have OCD - cuz this bothers me and I "must" fix it [01:48] the notification area should be the default one of xfce [01:49] but the other one is for some plugins from stadard ubuntu distro that use another indicator system, I think... [01:50] yes, I checked that... The plugin indicator is there for the plugins from Unity desktop [01:51] amigamagic on 14.04 ? [01:51] xubuntu takes some plugins from Unity desktop plugins [01:51] cfhowlett, yes [01:51] amigamagic that's just confusing as hell ... [01:51] amigamagic, right - but I can't disable unity indicators - because network manager shows up there as well as volume indicator [01:51] they mixed some native xfce plugins, with some Unity plugins [01:52] ddsss yes you can [01:52] you can "hide" the unwanted Unity plugins [01:52] the indicator should contain the valume and internet icons [01:52] I guess [01:53] ddsss, there are the options to hide unwanted Unity plugins in the plugin indicator properties [01:53] it should have nothing to do with unity [01:54] I "think" indicator = "hey here's your program" and notification = "hey something changed in your program" [01:54] peyam, as I said, it takes the plugins from Unity top bar and let you use them in the xfce panel [01:55] cfhowlett, they are containing different thing. like sound and power management are in indicator while internet connection and other stuff are in notification [01:55] amigamagic, yes but it's not its only purpose [01:56] peyam, what do you mean? [01:57] indocator has been there long before unity. unity can use it yes but remove the plugin will couse you problem. the sound and power icon will disappear [01:59] I gotta go and sleep. 4 AM here [01:59] see ya [02:01] xfce4-indicator-plugin: "Provides a panel area for Unity indicators. Indicators allow applications and system services to display their status and interact with the user.". <--- it's from the About of the plugin [02:03] amigamagic, yeah. what bothers me is that notifications area are for icons that do exactly the same thing it seems. So there are 2 systems with same purpose. [02:06] ddsss, yes, probably because the standard xfce indicators are not on par with the Unity ones [02:06] not all of them, at least [02:06] I disabled the duplicated ones [02:08] amigamagic, so duplication is #1.Iissue #2 is -> I can minimize app into tray (notification area), but I cannot minimize app into indicator area (or so it seems). [02:11] what? You cannot minimize app in the notification or indicator area... [02:11] There is the windows buttons plugin for that... [02:12] amigamagic, what plugin? [02:13] "Window Buttons" plugin [02:15] amigamagic, wait a second - this looks awesome [02:17] amigamagic, hmm - I didn't realized I could hide labels. [02:44] Hello! Are "general" packages of xubuntu the same as ubuntu? I'm trying to install openssh-server on ly 64-bit install, but getting some weird errors of trying to install 32-bit stuff: http://pastie.org/private/vndvya4m1mzoqyjmpp9n0w [02:48] hello. my network monitoring applet icon has been removed after upgrade to 14.04.how can i fix that? [03:23] how do i force xubuntu 13.10 to upgrade to 14.04? I run update-manager -d but it doesn't present 14.04 is available for upgrade.. why?? [03:33] Drop -d [03:35] Unit193, just says the software is up to date.. but it's still 13.10... i'm trying to get it to upgrade to 14.04 [03:39] I've never used that one, I always use do-release-upgrade, but it should be picking it up fine. Check out http://docs.xubuntu.org/1404/migrating-upgrading.html#upgrading for more information. [03:43] 14.04 is requesting my password to mount every thumbdrive I insert. [03:44] What's going on? [03:44] mspittel1961: permissions [03:44] ? [03:44] mspittel1961: your user is not autorized to open the USB sticks, or for some reason doesnt have permission [03:44] Permissions on what object? [03:45] mspittel1961: ? [03:45] mspittel1961: the usb sticks you are referencing, friend [03:45] This is a fresh install [03:45] mine is the only account [03:45] mspittel1961: ok.. [03:45] how do I give myself permissions to automount USB drives? [03:47] mspittel1961: they are ntfs? [03:47] yes [03:48] I gave full permissions on the mounted volume, expulsed it and reinserted it, no further password required [03:48] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions [03:48] i have never used ntfs on sticks like that [03:49] I use it with a Western Digital Live TV appliance and it only recognizes FAT ans NTFS [03:49] and [03:52] I'm spoiled by Mint, it automounts everything I plug at it [03:52] sure.. im just saying, for first hand experiences, i have only that i have used ntfs and added to fstab.. you wont want to do that [03:52] so, you'll need to read up on using ntfs with linux [03:53] mint should be similar with ntfs [03:53] you can always ask mint how they do their permissions, and do that to xubuntu [03:54] May be I had the same problem long ago with Mint and simply forgot what I did [03:54] you mean, with ntfs [03:54] thanks a lot [03:54] sure. good luck. my "fix" with fstab is not what you wan [03:54] want* [03:54] i had ntfs drives.. internal drives. it was appropriate for fstab [03:55] I mean that I used the thumb and set permissions in my Mint install and jut forgot that [03:56] Mint Nadia reaches end-of-support this month and I'm thinking of coming back to Xubuntu [03:57] I switched two years ago when they said tha Xubuntu won't be officialy supported by Ubuntu any longer [03:58] by Canonical, I mean [03:59] i think that was misread [03:59] canonical pays for the servers.. and the official flavous get access to all of that [03:59] I suppose, because Xubuntu is still among us [03:59] they never finanically supported it directly [04:00] its a community project [04:00] xubuntu cant be "Killed" buy canonical like that [04:00] they would just stop paying the bills on the servers, or the salaries up top [04:00] isn't Xubuntu one of the "official flavours" ? [04:00] mspittel1961: yes [04:01] mspittel1961: but that doesnt mean its funded directly [04:01] mspittel1961: its a community project [04:01] Ok. Got it [04:01] kubuntu had a paid dev, but they are now the same as the other flavours [04:02] even if, somehow, xubuntu stopped existing, you get ubuntu and add xfce.. thats not going anywhere unless ubuntu stopped existing [04:04] It's nice to have a .ISO that people more knowledgeable than me put together with xfce "preinstalled" [04:05] I've been using xfce since Gnome 2 was abandoned and I'm very used to it. [04:06] When MATE was forked from Gnome 2 I was already a xfce convert. [04:07] The only thing I hate is the desktop icons rearranging on each boot, bit I can live with that. [04:12] holstein: I found an ugly translation error in the Spanish version. How do I contribute a correction? [04:13] It is specific to xfce [04:15] !translation [04:15] !contribute [04:15] To see how you can help out with Xubuntu, please see http://xubuntu.org/contribute/ [04:15] mspittel1961: see if its there ^ [04:15] not sure... [04:18] great! [04:19] I fount there the e-mails of the three maintainers of the Spanish translation [04:19] found [04:19] mspittel1961: cheers! i know its helpful and appreciated [04:20] hola [04:20] hola [04:20] timezone? Here it's 1:20 AM [04:21] tengo xubuntu 12.04 lts non pae es compatible la 14.04 con NON PAE? [04:22] es en una Thinkpad? [04:23] creo que los kernels no PAE fueron abandonados [04:23] no espaniolo en los channelo [04:24] que putada yo con NON PAE [04:24] zapato cabeza quisiera papas un dos tres [04:25] quatro cinquo hijo de puta [04:25] !es [04:25] En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. [04:25] The nub of the problem is the fact that I have three computers that all run Ubuntu and all of them happen to have a Pentium M CPU. As far as I can tell, there is no 'non-pae' kernel in the mainstream releases of Ubuntu 12.10 and thus my Pentium M systems are left out in the cold as far as updating is concerned. [04:27] OK, [04:28] non-pae kernel are not available anymore from 120.10 onwards [04:28] 12.10 I mean [04:29] My understanding is that as of 12.10 non-pae will no longer be supported. So the best thing to do would be to stick with the 12.04 LTS release or switch to a different distro. [04:29] ONLY I still migrate to DEBIAN .... Too bad I was OK with Xubuntu [04:33] To guarantee compatibility with non-PAE processors, the 32-bit versions of Linux Mint Debian come with a 486 kernel by default. [04:33] Try LMDE 32-bit [04:33] or may be SolydX 32 bit [04:35] LMDE doesn't have xfce version anymore. The SolydXK guys have a semi-rolling distro based on Debian with xfce. [04:35] I do not understand I will make the light distributions of NO UBUNTU not supporting PAE with few old pc [04:37] let's go to #ubuntu-es so we can chat in Spanish w/o annoying people here. [04:37] ok, LMDE [04:38] BYE [04:38] THK [04:38] CU there [05:11] Is the only way to change from xp to linux is to buy the usb stick? [05:11] xubuntu726: no [05:11] !install [05:11] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate [05:12] xubuntu726: you dont need to purchase anything [05:12] xubuntu726: you will need to install, or have someone physically help you install.. sometimes you can find a local linux users group to help you [05:12] thank you so much!!!!! [05:14] sorry,where would i find local linux group? [05:17] xubuntu726: i have no idea.. im not saying there is one. im saying there might be one, and that would help [05:18] xubuntu726: you likely bought your machine with XP on it, and maybe are not comfortable or interested in installing an operating system [05:18] it can be helpful to find an actual person to install the operating sytem, as you did for xp [05:28] holstien...looks as if i need either flash drive or CD...is that right? [05:29] xubuntu726: there are many ways to install [05:30] xubuntu726: id do what is easiest, and less foriegn to you .. and whatever you have access to.. and what your hardware supports [05:31] so if i look around enought then i should find a way to do it? [05:32] xubuntu726: you can download a .iso and burn it to DVD, then use that to install on your computer. That's the easiest way. [05:33] dont have workin dvd player [05:34] oh... then you'd have to somehow write the .iso to a USB stick.... in linux that's very easy, but in windows i don't know how to do it. [05:34] !install | xubuntu726 [05:34] xubuntu726: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate [05:34] they sell one for 40 dollars [05:34] xubuntu726: ^ that should list, and outline ways to install [05:34] that's a ripoff. linux is free software. [05:34] xubuntu726: you can make your own usb installion media [05:35] xubuntu726: if you have trouble making it, ask [05:35] you'd probably have to download some shareware program to write the .iso file to a usb stick... [05:35] you can use what the link suggests. i like unetbootin [05:36] xubuntu726: do you have a free USB stick of at least 2gb? [05:36] no [05:37] wouldnt know one if i tripped over it [05:37] xubuntu726: where are you? look for a linux users group [05:37] boston [05:37] take a look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick [05:37] i help host the western north carolinx linux user group [05:38] xubuntu726: you can search "boston linux user group" and likely find folks to help you in person as you did with xp install [05:38] the problem is writing the .iso to the usb stick itself, like you'd do with 'dd if=file.iso of=/dev/usbstick' from windows [05:39] the problem is writing the .iso to the usb stick itself, like you'd do with 'dd if=file.iso of=/dev/usbstick' ...BUT from windows [05:39] thats all greek to me [05:39] sorry about that [05:39] np [05:39] appreciate the effort [05:40] xubuntu726: do you kno anyone who knows how to install an operating system? they might be able to help you. [05:40] know* [05:40] just online [05:41] you're using windows on your computer now? [05:41] yes,xp [05:42] ah, ok.. you know how to download files? in this case you need mainly a .ISO file of the linux distribution you wish to install. [05:43] where to find? [05:43] check on xubuntu.org [05:43] or here: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ [05:44] is it a recent computer? if it came with windows xp, i'm guessing from several years...? [05:44] yes....bout 7 or 8 [05:44] ok, then you'll need the 32bit version. [05:45] i see [05:45] the file you'll need is http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/14.04/release/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-i386.iso [05:45] it's rather large, because lots of programs come bundled with xubuntu (like most linux distributions) [05:46] ok.......thanks alot! [05:47] so you need, (1) a USB stick of at least 2gb, (2) that .iso file, and (3) some way to write it to the USB stick. i'm looking at the website pendrivelinux.com right now [05:48] oh, a SD card reader with a (at least) 2GB card can act as a usb stick too =) [05:51] this program looks like it could do the job: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ [05:51] ok...ty [05:52] so once you have the .iso file and a USB stick, you can use this program to write the file to the USB stick. [05:53] i see [05:53] You can't just copy the file onto the USB stick as "normal" content, it has to be written in a certain way. That's why you need a special program that can do it. [05:54] it has to be written in a way that makes the USB stick "bootable": that means, you can start your computer directly from it when you turn it on. [05:55] I'm looking into this because some said xp is no longer supported so my computer could be useless soon [05:56] ...so, if you don't have a USB stick, i'd recommend just go to the store and buy one. they're really not expensive, probably $5 to $10 for what you need. [05:56] i see [05:57] is that true, what i just said? [05:57] yeah, microsoft have stopped supporting windows xp. [05:57] without this support, how "useless" your computer would be, that really depends how you use it. [05:57] hmm [05:58] if you do anything on the internet, it's probably better to use another OS. [05:59] i see......yes i use net alot [05:59] For a computer 7-8 years old, xubuntu is an excellent choice. [05:59] i see [05:59] anyway, are you donwloading the .iso file right now? [05:59] yes [05:59] d [06:00] just finished [06:00] okie, also grab the program i mentioned: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ [06:00] have it [06:00] xubuntu726, xp will still work great, but you will become more and more exposed to malware due to no further upgrades from microsoft [06:00] eventually you'll probably be getting viruses automatically [06:00] that is true [06:00] i see [06:01] and newer "versions" of windowz are going to choke your computer totally. [06:01] hmm [06:02] also, I would probably use this http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ [06:02] each windows "upgrade" consumes 4 times more memory, disk space, cpu power, etc etc.... and accomplishes very little more than the version before it [06:02] it should be able to take an xubuntu iso and write it to anything usb, like a pen-drive or an sd card [06:02] yeah, that would work too [06:02] my grandfather's laptop actually had wifi die after a windows upgrade, so i installed xubuntu on it [06:02] he loved it [06:03] hehe :D [06:03] kept raving over how great the text rendering was [06:03] my grandfather taught me my first steps in programming.... he worked 30 years as a statistician and programmer for the canadian govt. [06:04] wow [06:04] that's amazing [06:05] where are you,if i can ask? [06:05] montreal, canada [06:05] <--- canuck frenchie :D [06:05] oh...ok [06:05] not far [06:05] norway reporting in, fwiw [06:05] although my grandfather (on my mom's side) lived mostly in Ottawa [06:05] hi ed [06:07] actually, don't know whether you've heard yet, but [06:07] xubuntu 14.04 JUST got released, so it still has a few glitches that they're working out [06:07] so in a few months it'll probably work even better, thanks to the upgrades that keep coming out [06:07] also, you'll want to only install the LTS versions, which 14.04 luckily happens to be! [06:08] yeah, xubuntu was officially released like 2 days ago. [06:08] uh [06:08] xubuntu 14.04 was officially released like 2 days ago. [06:09] xubuntu726: now all you need is a USB stick [06:09] yes [06:09] or a SD card reader with a >= 2GB SD card in it [06:10] right,ill buy cheapest [06:10] not really [06:10] !mini [06:10] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [06:10] or any USB gadget that can store at least 2gb of data [06:10] those are quite small, but, its not "easy" to install that way [06:11] I'd go with the official xubuntu iso and any memory stick that's 1gb or larger [06:11] (anything bigger shouldn't be necessary) [06:11] wow, 30mb [06:11] and with that I mean http://torrent.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/trusty/release/desktop/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso.torrent [06:11] that's the size of slackware in 1993-94 :D [06:11] you should be able to find one, or borrow one [06:12] ed-: he/she/it already downloaded the .iso [06:12] :) [06:12] ah aight [06:13] 14.04 32bit [06:13] 32bit? is the rig that old? :p [06:13] 7 or 8 years [06:13] yeah, not much point in 64bit then I guess [06:13] it probably won't boot 64bit [06:13] xubuntu's also a great choice, then, since it's so light [06:14] (not that xubuntu isn't a great choice in every scenario) [06:15] xubuntu726: on IRC you can change your nickname by typing /nick followed by your chosen nickname [06:16] ok,ty [06:17] ? [06:18] Hello world!Xubuntu 14.04 LTS is ready to download?Thanks [06:18] ty 202 [06:19] 32 bit or 64 bit? [06:19] Hello === xubuntu399 is now known as delt__ [06:19] ah ok it works [06:19] xubuntu726: depends on your computer [06:19] uh [06:19] Ok [06:19] xubuntu202: depends on your computer [06:20] xubuntu 14.04 LTS is ready to download? [06:20] yeah. just released 2 days ago. [06:20] Ok Thanks [06:20] ok.....late here...i'm going to bed........thanks all for help! Goodnight! [06:20] xubuntu726: np [06:21] I have notebook Acer Intel Celeron processor 900 is ok for Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 32 bit? [06:22] probably [06:22] ok [06:22] you should download the ISO and run it in live / try mode first, to see if it works [06:22] impossible to tell without trying :p [06:22] ok [06:23] its really a good choice for lower spec machines [06:23] !lubuntu [06:23] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [06:23] as well ^ [06:23] ok [07:09] Any torrent client suggestion? [07:10] volkan transmission [07:10] cfhowlett, thanks [07:11] Another question, Whats the fast way of past in terminal? [07:12] volkan depends. for pasting file and directory locations, I drag and drop via nautilus and thunar [07:12] cfhowlett, for the clipboard? [07:13] volkan hmm. nothing I can suggest, sorry [07:19] What can I use for booting USB? [07:21] volkan clarify ... plug in USB and boot! [07:22] cfhowlett, I want a setup xubuntu. I have the .ISO file. Whats the next step? [07:23] !install [07:23] Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate [07:23] !usb [07:23] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [07:23] volkan get netbootin, create a boot USB and reboot with it [07:23] !md5sum|volkan FIRST do md5sum to verify your ISO [07:23] volkan FIRST do md5sum to verify your ISO: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [07:25] OK, after that? [07:25] volkan use unetbootin. make the USB [07:26] Thank you! [07:33] Hello All. just installed dropbox on my brand new xubuntu laptop, the dropbox icon is not in he notification area like in ubuntu. any ideas on how to get it back? itworks fine and the dropbox is syncing. [07:48] hey guys, I am using xubuntu 12.04 and would like to upgrade to 14.04, fresh install is not a preferable option as I am working on a lot of development projects and do not want to setup databases and environments again. Theoretically upgrade should be available for LTS'es, but I don't see that option in update manager. Any idea when that should become available? [07:49] xubuntu194: No, the upgrade will be offered to LTS users at the first point release. [07:49] xubuntu194 use the terminal sudo do-release-upgrade [07:50] Unit193 I am confused - gui upgrade isn't an option in 12.04 to 14.04??? [07:50] cfhowlett: 12.04 will get the option when 14.04.1 rolls around, it's how it normally works. [07:51] Unit193 learn something new everyday ... [08:01] sounds good :) will try out 14.04 on home computer [08:02] xubuntu194: Have fun! (And so close! One number off. :P ) [08:03] true, thanks guys [09:45] there a gtk app that works like Homerun on KDE? Is that called the dash in Unity? havn't used unity much? [09:46] james0r, why you ask here about Unity if this is an "x"ubuntu channel? [09:56] james0r ask in #ubuntu please [10:07] good morning everyone! [10:20] uh... somehow I cannot seem to find openssl headers in 14.04... [10:20] where has openssl-dev gone? [10:20] (yeah I know, to hell, but seriously) [10:23] nvm, found it (libssl-dev) [10:23]