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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:22 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:41 |
| soee | hi BluesKaj | 11:06 |
| BluesKaj | hi soee | 11:12 |
| Kalidarn | would you say it is a bug with network manager | 12:59 |
| Kalidarn | if i enter say | 12:59 |
| Kalidarn | 127.0.0.1, exmaple.com | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | as the DNS/DNS Search | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | it will not cut the space | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | when you click on the list you'll actually get: | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | 127.0.0.1 | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | example.com | 13:00 |
| Kalidarn | and i'm pretty sure on ubuntu it does | 13:00 |
| Quintasan | \o | 13:02 |
| Quintasan | Kalidarn: I'm pretty sure you want to report that upstream (as in http://bugs.kde.org). | 13:03 |
| Kalidarn | yeah i am going to | 13:03 |
| Mamarok | dear all, something is wrong with the amarok package apparently, please see kdebug 333649 | 13:03 |
| Kalidarn | okay it looks as if on ubuntu there's no list option | 13:03 |
| Mamarok | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333649 | 13:04 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 333649 in Playlist "everytime when i open Amarok an error is message is being displayed" [Normal,Resolved: downstream] | 13:04 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Looking | 13:04 |
| Mamarok | I closed this as downstream as there must be something worng with the dependencies installed | 13:04 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: thank you :) | 13:05 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: There is nothing wrong with the package itself as far I am concerned, IIRC org.kde.klauncher is provided by kde-workspace-bin in Ubuntu | 13:11 |
| Quintasan | Though | 13:11 |
| Quintasan | Better ask the user though | 13:11 |
| Mamarok | I will ask him | 13:13 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: I'm already writing a message with some commands I need output of | 13:13 |
| Kalidarn | is plasma-nm the QML one KDE 5? | 13:15 |
| Kalidarn | I'm assuming KDE 4.13 uses the "Network Management" product | 13:16 |
| soee | how to fix this in Amarok: Download of charts seems to have failed. Please check your internet connection. | 13:18 |
| soee | this stops Aamrok for 20 seconds to start each time | 13:18 |
| Quintasan | soee: I think this is a problem with the provider itself rather than Amarok | 13:18 |
| Kalidarn | okay no it looks like 0.9.3.3 is http://ltinkl.blogspot.com/2013/09/first-plasma-nm-release.html | 13:18 |
| Mamarok | soee: you shouldn't even ahve that script anymore, the Charts don't exist anymore since quite some time, and it was removed in 2.7.1 already | 13:20 |
| Quintasan | soee: Was it? | 13:21 |
| Quintasan | ah | 13:21 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Was it? | 13:21 |
| Mamarok | yes, seems to me like ages ago :) | 13:21 |
| * Quintasan looks at the package | 13:21 | |
| Mamarok | and of course the website doesn't exist anymore either | 13:22 |
| Quintasan | soee: 2.8 is it? | 13:22 |
| soee | Mamarok: is see only Free Music Charts script and its disabled | 13:22 |
| soee | Quintasan: yes im on 14.04 | 13:22 |
| Mamarok | but I can check the ChangeLog | 13:22 |
| soee | let me do some more tests | 13:22 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: it was removed in 2.8. before beta 1 | 13:23 |
| Mamarok | soee: that shouldn't even show up anymore, I don't have that here | 13:24 |
| soee | Mamarok: yo dont have this script on list ? | 13:24 |
| Quintasan | soee, Mamarok: are we talking about this -> http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/20/plasma-desktopDl1777.png ? | 13:25 |
| Mamarok | yes, that shouldn't even exist anymore, I don't see it here | 13:26 |
| soee | yes http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/20/amarok.jpeg | 13:26 |
| Mamarok | we removed this before 2.8 beta 1, at least according to the ChangeLog | 13:27 |
| soee | ok if this plugin is unchecke the error is gone but player needs ~10 seconds to start (show the window with all options), is it possible thet it tries to fetch some data from internet before launching all window elements ? | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | soee: I turned all three of those and I no longer get that message. | 13:28 |
| soee | Quintasan: yes i can confirm this | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Truth be told, if it was removed from the source we would no longer have it I believe | 13:28 |
| Quintasan | Let me look at the package | 13:28 |
| Mamarok | soee: if your playlist contains internet sources, yes, then it will check those | 13:29 |
| soee | Mamarok: yes it have lyrics enabled | 13:29 |
| soee | *has | 13:29 |
| Mamarok | soee: not talking about lyrics, those are only checked when yous tart playing something | 13:29 |
| Mamarok | I meant streams or podcasts in the active playlist | 13:30 |
| soee | Mamarok: and if option to autoplay is on ? | 13:30 |
| Mamarok | that is not the point, the content of the playlist is what I was asking for | 13:30 |
| Mamarok | the more there are streams and podcasts that are not local, the more it has to check for | 13:30 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: src/scripts/free_music_charts_service/README | 13:31 |
| Quintasan | It is there in 2.8 | 13:31 |
| soee | Mamarok: i have atm only ~5 local songs and 1 polish station | 13:31 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Generally the contents of the source of 2.8.0 are http://paste.ubuntu.com/7291581 | 13:32 |
| soee | Mamarok: ok it seems that this polish station on the list cuses this | 13:32 |
| soee | after it is removed, Amarok start without any delay | 13:33 |
| Quintasan | soee: Well, Mamarok said that Amarok checks for the stream etc. on the startup | 13:33 |
| Quintasan | Though I don't like that way of doing things. | 13:33 |
| soee | Quintasan: yup, this is not to good, if i have this one station, Amarok starts and i see nothing on the window next 10-15 seconds | 13:35 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Do you happen do know if it's viable option to make Amarok not to check for internet sources until you try to play them? | 13:36 |
| kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1310271] systemsettings not installing, dictionaries-common is getting error @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1310271 (by sreeenu) | 13:37 |
| Mamarok | oh well, I guess yes, no idea why this was not implemented yet, currently it does other checks. but please check with the current git first, I know there have been a lot of changes | 13:38 |
| Mamarok | but the current git should show the GUI immediately, it sadly still runs a bazillion of checks in the background | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | currently I can't search before like 10 seconds once it is started because ti checks the database | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | it* | 13:39 |
| Mamarok | this was normally one of the things that were fixed when we implemented the GSoC projects, after 2.8.0 | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | and current git is like 310 commits or so ahead of 2.8.0 | 13:40 |
| Mamarok | including 4 GSoC projects that were merged | 13:40 |
| soee | Mamarok: when is next version planned to be released ? | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | markey: really, we need to release soon... | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | soee: we have one planned since like ages, sadly our release manager is MIA | 13:41 |
| Mamarok | that is why it didn't see the light yet | 13:41 |
| markey | we have a number of important bug fixes that should be released, yes | 13:42 |
| Mamarok | he started a new job | 13:42 |
| markey | e.g. I rewrote the opengl visualization | 13:43 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: In the last 700 commits I can see some changes to playlists but nothing really grabs my attention when it comes to checking internet sources | 13:45 |
| Mamarok | as I said, it "should" have been fixed, because that was talked about, but ibn any case, the GUI now shows immediately | 13:46 |
| Mamarok | and the internet sources need to be checked if those are in the loaded playlist anyway, elese it will get a delay once you try to play it and ti doesn't work | 13:46 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Why do those have to be checked? I don't really get the logic behind it. | 13:48 |
| soee_ | There is small issue related to loading this sources and delay, if you have volume set to 30% before the sources are checked/loaded Amarok starts to play with 100% volume, than after sources are loaded it jums to 30% | 13:50 |
| soee_ | so it seems that some settings/configuration are applied after this sources are checked | 13:51 |
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| Quintasan | soee_: Report that upstream if it was not reported | 13:51 |
| Quintasan | I'm pretty much sure noone will remember that in like 30 minutes since we are generally busy | 13:52 |
| soee | Quintasan: ok | 13:52 |
| Mamarok | the check then marks unplayable tracks grayed out | 13:54 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: My main problem is with what will Amarok do when there is no network or the network is unreliable | 13:56 |
| Mamarok | soee: that I never even heard about | 13:56 |
| Mamarok | it will check and gray out the unplayable tracks, didn't I just say that? | 13:56 |
| Quintasan | Maybe I'm not clear enough. | 13:57 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: If there is no network, will Amarok try to check for availability of the internet sources if there are any on the playlist? | 13:58 |
| Mamarok | no idea how the check works, you need to check that in the code, sorry | 14:00 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: I see. | 14:01 |
| Mamarok | I guess, logically it should check if there is an internet connectiion first, then only strt checking the individual sources | 14:01 |
| Mamarok | if it doesn't the the check is a piece of crap | 14:01 |
| Mamarok | markey: ^ | 14:01 |
| markey | I don't know anything about that at all | 14:03 |
| * Quintasan looks into it | 14:03 | |
| Quintasan | I guess it will be a express KDE/Qt 101 for me | 14:04 |
| markey | best way to start :) | 14:04 |
| soee | Quintasan: the issue i mentioned might be related to this: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=329166 | 14:12 |
| ubottu | KDE bug 329166 in Playback "Amarok volume is often reset to 100% when changing tracks" [Normal,Reopened] | 14:12 |
| soee | or shall i create new bug report ? | 14:13 |
| Quintasan | soee: Are you able to reproduce that every time? | 14:14 |
| soee | Quintasan: yes, each time | 14:14 |
| Quintasan | If so then I think you should file a new bug and attach the file which triggers the behavior | 14:14 |
| Quintasan | amarok --debug output probably would be nice | 14:14 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Does Amarok have any wikipage for end users how to provide the most useful information? | 14:15 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 14:18 |
| soee | uhm, now when i tried to verify it one more time, the problem is gone | 14:19 |
| soee | strange | 14:19 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: Fortunately enough core/meta/Meta.cpp has networkNotPlayableReason() so that rules out the possiblity of that check is crap | 14:19 |
| * Quintasan satisfied his curiosity | 14:20 | |
| Quintasan | soee: Be sure to keep an eye on that | 14:20 |
| Quintasan | I never had that happen to me but I can imagine it's annoying to say the least. | 14:21 |
| Mamarok | Quintasan: what do you mean, wiki page? | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | Mamarok: https://community.kde.org/Amarok/Development/DebuggingHowTo | 15:39 |
| Quintasan | I was looking for this | 15:39 |
| Mamarok | ah, ok | 15:39 |
| Mamarok | we have that since like forever :) | 15:39 |
| Mamarok | long before any of the other KDE projects starting having similar ones, and even then, most don't | 15:40 |
| Quintasan | christ | 18:36 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer: got a thinkpad? | 18:36 |
| alket | no updates since the release, thats a good sign | 22:05 |
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