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| nishchal | hello?? | 02:23 |
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| u19809 | hi all I cannot get rid of the grub2 boot menu ... using 14.04 | 03:05 |
| mah454 | Hello | 03:32 |
| === c_smith_ is now known as c_smith | ||
| mah454 | I installed kubuntu 14.04 , but can nit start calligra (word) on this version !!! | 03:33 |
| mah454 | this paste : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288746/ | 03:33 |
| mah454 | nobody help me ? | 03:49 |
| roney_ | nobody, so sad | 04:01 |
| valorie | mah454: sec and I will try it too | 04:29 |
| valorie | u1 | 04:29 |
| valorie | oops | 04:29 |
| valorie | u19809: are you saying you get to grub, and then can't login? | 04:30 |
| valorie | pfff | 04:33 |
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| captain_haddock | Hi | 05:31 |
| roney_ | hi | 05:33 |
| === jacky is now known as Not | ||
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| pslinux | hello | 05:54 |
| arestoff | тут по-русски говорят? | 05:59 |
| pslinux | exit | 06:01 |
| jacky | err | 06:02 |
| jacky | is there a russian ubuntu channel? | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | !ru | arestoff | 06:02 |
| ubottu | arestoff: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 06:02 |
| arestoff | ubottu: thanks! | 06:03 |
| ubottu | You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) | 06:03 |
| arestoff | sh*t | 06:03 |
| jacky | lmfao | 06:05 |
| hafiz_ | ada orang indonesia disini??? | 06:16 |
| Unit193 | !id | 06:16 |
| ubottu | join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia | 06:16 |
| hafiz_ | tapi itu room kok sepi yah | 06:17 |
| Etriaph | Running docky on my desktop and am encountering a strange behavior | 06:40 |
| Etriaph | When I first login the icons on the dock are the stock KDE icons; however, I use Compass. If I switch my icon theme to something other than Compass and back again, docky updates properly, just not on first login | 06:41 |
| valorie | is this a gtk application? | 06:42 |
| valorie | if so I think there is a gtk-theming thing | 06:43 |
| valorie | but I always use stock, so .... | 06:43 |
| valorie | maybe somebody else knows, but IRC tonight is like a graveyard at midnight | 06:44 |
| Etriaph | Oh, well I did find a setting under GTK for icon theme | 06:44 |
| valorie | did that help? | 06:44 |
| Etriaph | It defaults to Oxygen | 06:44 |
| Etriaph | But I can't select my theme | 06:44 |
| valorie | that's strange | 06:45 |
| Shaan7 | anyone else unable to start a chat using KDE Telepathy IM on Kubuntu 14.04? | 06:45 |
| Etriaph | Well, Compass isn't present in the list | 06:46 |
| Etriaph | It's Oxygen themes (2) and Hi-color | 06:46 |
| valorie | passing strange | 06:46 |
| Etriaph | But I think they are GTK specific themes | 06:46 |
| Etriaph | So it adds a default Oxygen GTK-compatible Icon theme | 06:47 |
| Etriaph | k, gonna test this out | 06:50 |
| Etriaph | OK, that works :) | 06:51 |
| Etriaph | Now is the only way to change the lock-screen background still to hack in a new version of Elarun? | 06:51 |
| Etriaph | It's the last thing I have to do tonight before I sleep to customize all of this :) | 06:51 |
| valorie | hmmm, that I don't know | 06:52 |
| valorie | I either use the stock or asquiaquarium | 06:52 |
| Etriaph | Well I can't find a way to configure it | 06:57 |
| valorie | !lock-screen | 06:58 |
| valorie | ubottu doesn't know | 06:58 |
| valorie | I think lock screen is kwin, if that helps your googling | 06:59 |
| Etriaph | https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=110039#p293799 | 07:09 |
| Etriaph | Arcane, but it works rather well :) | 07:09 |
| valorie | looks like there are simple and complicated ways both | 07:19 |
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| lordievader | Good morning. | 07:22 |
| rcw2 | mornin' | 07:22 |
| lordievader | Hey rcw2, how are you? | 07:23 |
| rcw2 | alright, you? | 07:24 |
| lordievader | Doing okay, still waking up for a bit. | 07:25 |
| rcw2 | im trying to wake up my laptop's connection to the internet here | 07:28 |
| lordievader | rcw2: Cable or wifi? | 07:28 |
| Akishona | hi guys! | 07:29 |
| lordievader | o/ | 07:29 |
| Gregor3000 | settign new software channels fetching is complete - stuck at 9% so much for the smooth upgrade... | 07:30 |
| Akishona | i upgraded my kubu box to 14lts. now every time when i start my computer have to manually set up my network connection | 07:30 |
| Akishona | i have a couple of network connections. instead of going on the right connection the network manager is selecting another one | 07:31 |
| Gregor3000 | at least you managed to finish the upgrade :-) what is the network card? wireless, wired? | 07:32 |
| Gregor3000 | aha wi-fi? | 07:32 |
| Akishona | did you run in similar problem? | 07:32 |
| Gregor3000 | the "wrong one" might have stronger signal and is unlocked? | 07:32 |
| Gregor3000 | no i am stuck on upgarde. | 07:32 |
| SuperFireAl | Is Kubuntu packed with the amazon spyware? | 07:34 |
| valorie | no | 07:34 |
| valorie | we don't have unity at all | 07:35 |
| SuperFireAl | Anything else that would use random bandwidth ? | 07:35 |
| Akishona | another problem is that when i'm starting my laptop(cold boot) the keyboard is not working and i need to attach an usb keyboard to be able to restart or work. any idea why this happens ? | 07:35 |
| valorie | SuperFireAl: I can't imagine what | 07:35 |
| Akishona | this is random | 07:35 |
| valorie | Gregor3000: how long as it been "stuck"? | 07:36 |
| Gregor3000 | oh i reset it. it was completely stuck. had to take the batery out | 07:37 |
| valorie | one of my laptops seemed to be stuck for quite awhile, but it finished right along with the other box | 07:37 |
| valorie | oh my | 07:37 |
| Gregor3000 | yeah | 07:38 |
| Gregor3000 | what is the upgrade command? sudo do-release-upgrade -c? | 07:38 |
| valorie | -d | 07:39 |
| valorie | although you don't need that now | 07:39 |
| valorie | the d | 07:39 |
| valorie | since it is released | 07:39 |
| valorie | Gregor3000: please ensure that you have commented out all PPAs | 07:40 |
| SuperFireAl | Alright. I might as well try the latest LTS from Mint Maya. Mint wasn't running that fast even with XFCE | 07:40 |
| valorie | this seems to be causing problems this time around | 07:40 |
| rcw2 | ive run through this installation outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash but firefox loads a flash app fine, while chrome requests flash just like before, even after system restart | 07:40 |
| rcw2 | this is just after upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04 | 07:40 |
| valorie | rcw2: that happened one day this last week for me in chromium, but th enext day updates fixed it | 07:41 |
| valorie | the next, geez | 07:41 |
| Gregor3000 | it seems to be working now | 07:41 |
| valorie | great, Gregor3000 | 07:41 |
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| rcw2 | valorie, hmm, im all up to date it seems | 07:44 |
| Gregor3000 | recw2: isn't the flash plugin included in restricted extras package? or is this a different plugin? i have on 12.04 restricted extras and every time there is a flash update a script is run when you manually and separatelly install flash. so far it works on firefox and chromium. | 07:49 |
| valorie | yes, `kubuntu-restricted-extras` | 07:52 |
| valorie | you can choose to install this when you do a new install, and if you upgrade, it should be as well | 07:52 |
| SuperFireAl | "install third party while installing" will give all the flash, and so forth to play MP3s, etc? | 08:18 |
| valorie | yes | 08:19 |
| SuperFireAl | sweetness. | 08:20 |
| SuperFireAl | I wonder how long before Mint releases an edition based on ubuntu ? | 08:21 |
| SuperFireAl | I guess not something can be answered here though | 08:21 |
| valorie | no idea, unless there are some mint peeps in the chan | 08:22 |
| Gregor3000 | usually it's about 2 or 3 months after ubuntu. but mostly it is when it's ready. i remember there was a KDE release not long ago taht wasn't ready at all and was never released. | 08:23 |
| SuperFireAl | Is there some universal way of changing the font size? | 08:27 |
| SuperFireAl | instead of every detail (Konsole, firefox, etc) | 08:27 |
| SuperFireAl | oh I found out | 08:29 |
| SuperFireAl | yay vision | 08:29 |
| Gregor3000 | yeah i usually just use the zoom. crtl+mouse wheel forward | 08:32 |
| SuperFireAl | Wow it actually installed all the updates while installing | 08:34 |
| SuperFireAl | That's a first | 08:34 |
| valorie | I always do that | 08:35 |
| valorie | saves time | 08:35 |
| SuperFireAl | Usually when the version is old though there is still about 300 more MBs of stuff | 08:36 |
| valorie | which version are you installing? | 08:37 |
| SuperFireAl | 14.04 | 08:38 |
| valorie | ah | 08:38 |
| valorie | well, that just came out a few days ago | 08:38 |
| valorie | no .1 yet | 08:39 |
| valorie | the devels haven't yet recovered from the release madness | 08:39 |
| xieyi | I updated kubuntu 14.04 the all sw seems response slowly. I noticed my hard drive is continuely being read or written. Is the slow response has something to do with it? Is it caused by akonadi_baloo_indexer? | 08:50 |
| xieyi | Is there anyway to stop the indexer? | 08:51 |
| xieyi | I know there was an option to disable the nepomuk indexer in the control panel | 08:52 |
| xieyi | but I cant find one for baloo | 08:53 |
| valorie | yes, it's baloo, and it will finish indexing soon | 08:53 |
| valorie | if you do alt+f2 and type baloo, you can get to the config | 08:53 |
| valorie | blacklist your home if you want | 08:54 |
| valorie | once it's done it's not noticeable | 08:54 |
| xieyi | It has been tortured my hard drive and me for whole day and has no sign of completing | 08:55 |
| xieyi | thanks for your advice. I am trying. | 08:55 |
| xieyi | :-) | 08:55 |
| valorie | some go directly to the config file and turn of indexing but I think that's extreme | 08:56 |
| valorie | if you have lots of mail though, it can be intense | 08:56 |
| xieyi | I hope there will be a configure tool in control panel soon. I actually dont know how to modify the config file. But I found a tool setting the directory being neglected by indexer | 08:59 |
| valorie | afaik the developer doesn't want users to notice it at all | 09:00 |
| valorie | but I think he'll have to dial down the intensity if he wants that to be true | 09:00 |
| valorie | it is supposed to Just Work | 09:01 |
| xieyi | yeah right. it affect my work. | 09:01 |
| xieyi | cant take it any more | 09:02 |
| valorie | Open $HOME/.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc and change the option 'Indexing-Enabled=true' to 'Indexing-Enabled=false' | 09:03 |
| valorie | I think it is .kde/share etc. | 09:04 |
| xieyi | oh I found it. it is at $HOME/.kde/share/config | 09:06 |
| xieyi | I will shut it down | 09:06 |
| lordievader | valorie: Yes on Ubuntu it is ~/.kde instead of ~/.kde4 | 09:07 |
| xieyi | mine has already been set to false. weird | 09:07 |
| xieyi | so the intensive hard drive access must be caused by other underlying sw. | 09:08 |
| lordievader | xieyi: Try iotop, show you what is causing the io. | 09:09 |
| xieyi | Is there other possible cause for it ? | 09:09 |
| xieyi | I am installing it. it is a very slow process | 09:13 |
| xieyi | it is baloo_file_cleaner | 09:17 |
| xieyi | any idea about this tool? | 09:18 |
| andy123 | its is the file indexer that lordievader was talking about. | 09:19 |
| andy123 | you can go to system settings > desktop search | 09:19 |
| xieyi | I have disable baloo from its config file. i dont know what else I can do. | 09:20 |
| andy123 | and add your HOME folder to the excluded folders | 09:20 |
| xieyi | yeah I have add my home to the blacklist | 09:20 |
| andy123 | then reboot | 09:20 |
| xieyi | maybe I should reboot once. | 09:20 |
| andy123 | yes | 09:20 |
| xieyi | ok thanks | 09:20 |
| xieyi | I am trying it | 09:20 |
| andy123 | np | 09:20 |
| andy123 | everybody seems to have problem with the baloo malware | 09:22 |
| xieyi | It works. baloo stop bothering me any more. thank you guys! | 09:31 |
| kde_user | hi | 09:31 |
| kde_user | i would like to know the steps to install unity in kubuntu | 09:31 |
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| xieyi | why dont you install ubuntu instead | 09:32 |
| xieyi | apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 09:32 |
| xieyi | only one step | 09:32 |
| kde_user | Hi xieyi.. i actually installed ubuntu first and then tried installed kubuntu using apg-get kubuntu-desktop | 09:33 |
| kde_user | but it kept throwing an error when i tried logging into kde | 09:33 |
| kde_user | so i'm thinking of installing kde first and then try unity | 09:33 |
| xieyi | what is the error | 09:34 |
| xieyi | I am just curious. I keep using kde and have not experienced such problem before | 09:34 |
| kde_user | just a min.. i'll lookup | 09:34 |
| kde_user | the error is : call to lnusertemp failed | 09:36 |
| kde_user | (temporary directories full?). check your installation | 09:37 |
| xieyi | It is out of my knowledge | 09:38 |
| xieyi | :-P | 09:38 |
| kde_user | :( | 09:38 |
| xieyi | hope some one else can give you some hints | 09:38 |
| N1K3a | Hello! | 09:38 |
| xieyi | hi | 09:39 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Are they? | 09:39 |
| kde_user | yes | 09:39 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Are the temporary directories full? | 09:39 |
| N1K3a | Ive just installed Kubuntu 14.04 ..its working nice.. However, I was looking for some kind of post installation tips?? | 09:39 |
| xieyi | what kind? | 09:40 |
| xieyi | bumblebee? | 09:40 |
| PasNox | my java is not working inside chromium in trusty, any idea ? | 09:41 |
| Machtin | Hey guys. Happy easter for starters. I'm trying to get spdif pass through to work. More into detail: I'd like to watch a movie with DTS, my sound card can't decode it, but my speaker system can. I'd like to use that to get 5.1 over optical. | 09:41 |
| kde_user | lordievader: well, i don't know how to check exactly. | 09:41 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Check "df -h" | 09:41 |
| kde_user | can u help me out | 09:41 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Is there anything at 100%? | 09:41 |
| kde_user | no | 09:42 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Hmm, nothing nearly full either? | 09:44 |
| kde_user | yes.. max is 11% for /dev/sda8 | 09:45 |
| dnivra | hello. I just upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 and driver manager keeps showing up occasionally asking me to choose the driver to install(I have an nvidia card). I choose a driver and select okay but it doesn't seem to install anything. Could somone help out here? | 09:45 |
| dnivra | okay so I guess the option I chose had all the files installed :) | 09:48 |
| lordievader | kde_user: Meh, more than enough room. Don't know why it would be complaining about possible temp dirs being full. | 09:49 |
| kde_user | lordievader: i'll try re-installing the os | 09:51 |
| kde_user | thanks | 09:51 |
| kde_user | bye | 09:51 |
| Gregor3000 | how to set up program to start on boot? e.g. - skype | 10:06 |
| lordievader | Gregor3000: System-settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autorun | 10:08 |
| Gregor3000 | found it, thanks | 10:10 |
| lordievader | ;) | 10:13 |
| mihalych | Русскоговорящие есть? | 10:17 |
| lordievader | !ru | mihalych | 10:18 |
| ubottu | mihalych: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. | 10:18 |
| rcw2 | adobe says download libflashplayer.so and install it. any reason this method shouldn't be followed? | 10:36 |
| lordievader | rcw2: Because Flash is in the repo? | 10:39 |
| lordievader | !info flashplugin-installer | 10:39 |
| ubottu | flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.350ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) | 10:39 |
| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:41 |
| VJM | hello... | 10:42 |
| BluesKaj | hi VJM | 10:43 |
| VJM | could i ask a newbie question about kubuntu 14.04? | 10:44 |
| BluesKaj | ask away, VJM | 10:44 |
| VJM | cool.... blank new installation... how do i change the desktop wallpaper???? | 10:45 |
| VJM | there's no option in system settings | desktop theme | 10:45 |
| lordievader | VJM: Right click the desktop -> default desktop settings | 10:46 |
| VJM | oh.... there! | 10:46 |
| VJM | thanks lordievader | 10:46 |
| BluesKaj | VJM, right click on the desktop, choose default desktop settings , then click on the : | 10:46 |
| VJM | not immediately obvious | 10:47 |
| VJM | thanks Blueskaj | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | open | 10:47 |
| BluesKaj | then navigate to your folder that contains whatever images you want | 10:48 |
| VJM | got it... thanks very much BluesKaj | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | VJM, np :) | 10:49 |
| BluesKaj | VJM, you can have a different image for each virtual desktop as well | 10:51 |
| lordievader | To where does dpkg/apt unpack the contents of deb packages? | 10:52 |
| user__ | i see 'flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.' but its not working in chromium/kubuntu 14.04. any suggestions? os is up to date | 10:53 |
| lordievader | user__: Chromium is in the process of going over to a new api system, I figure flash is still broken upstream. | 10:54 |
| lordievader | user__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2NTg | 10:54 |
| BluesKaj | user__, install the pepperflash-plugin | 10:56 |
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| rcw2 | . | 10:57 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, pepperflashplugin-nonfree package already installed | 10:59 |
| rcw2 | already the newest | 10:59 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, pepperflashplugin-nonfree ? | 11:03 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, yes | 11:05 |
| nescius | hello, do you know url for the repository for kde packages for 14.04? | 11:26 |
| nescius | i cannot find it in the upgrade guide | 11:26 |
| lordievader | nescius: Do you mean the backports? | 11:26 |
| nescius | lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p5bctolkn | 11:27 |
| BluesKaj | nescius, don't change the sources to upgrade, just run sudo do-release-upgrade, but make sure you update and upgrade 13.10 first | 11:28 |
| nescius | i am | 11:29 |
| nescius | both 13.10 and fully updated | 11:29 |
| lordievader | nescius: What command brought you that output? | 11:29 |
| nescius | I have issues with updating 4.11.5 to 4.12 i guess | 11:30 |
| nescius | lordievader: do-release-upgrade.. (its actually grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ) | 11:30 |
| lordievader | Did you have the backports enabled in Saucy? | 11:30 |
| BluesKaj | nescius, then run dist-upgrade to get the latest kde release | 11:32 |
| nescius | BluesKaj: dist-upgrade: command not found | 11:32 |
| lordievader | nescius: He means apt-get dist-upgrade ;) | 11:32 |
| BluesKaj | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 11:33 |
| nescius | well, thanks for help, maybe it will work afterwards | 11:40 |
| nescius | right, it wont | 11:41 |
| nescius | as i said, there are no KDE packages in the repositories | 11:41 |
| nescius | no new ones at least | 11:41 |
| nescius | 'newer' than 4.11.5 | 11:42 |
| nescius | dist-upgrade will update everything and simply remove KDE | 11:42 |
| nescius | which is not actually what i wanted | 11:43 |
| lordievader | !info kdelibs-bin saucy | 11:43 |
| ubottu | kdelibs-bin (source: kde4libs): core executables for KDE Applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 195 kB, installed size 863 kB | 11:43 |
| lordievader | Hmm, that is the default for Saucy. I wonder why it doesn't want to upgrade to Trusty... | 11:44 |
| nescius | !info kdelibs-bin trusty | 11:44 |
| ubottu | kdelibs-bin (source: kde4libs): core executables for KDE Applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 195 kB, installed size 864 kB | 11:44 |
| nescius | lordievader: i am trying to find out for couple of days.. | 11:45 |
| nescius | .. i forgot to mention that i am using japanese mirror | 11:45 |
| nescius | maybe that is the problem | 11:45 |
| nescius | what is best mirror to try? | 11:46 |
| lordievader | nescius: It could be behind. Try changing the mirror. | 11:46 |
| BluesKaj | uk or us mirrors | 11:47 |
| BluesKaj | nescius,^ | 11:47 |
| nescius | trying it again with bytemark as a mirror | 11:48 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, any suggestions on my last question? | 11:50 |
| dd | To all having sound issues since upgrade to 14.04: http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/ - SECTION 3 | 11:53 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, could you post a url where flash isn't working | 11:55 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, grooveshark.com | 11:55 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, that's a music site, flash isn't playing any video there, try youtube to make sure | 11:58 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Grooveshark uses a lot of flash IIRC. | 12:01 |
| BluesKaj | dd, that's an ubuntu tutorial the graphics depicted don't fit kubuntu/kde. | 12:02 |
| BluesKaj | most websites do use flash. yes , but as avideo player i don't see any video on grooveshark. lordievader | 12:03 |
| dd | BluesKaj, I tried the two commands in section 3 yesterday, worked fine for me :-) But I don't know much about sound systems (ALSA, PulseAudio what the.... :-S) | 12:03 |
| nescius | i think there is a repository issue.. it does not upgrade even from bytemark mirror, i removed all repositories and kept the ones from do-release-upgrade, but still no KDE packages | 12:03 |
| lordievader | BluesKaj: Wasn't rcw2 problem a non working flash plugin? | 12:05 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, youtube works, hm | 12:05 |
| lordievader | Hehe. How odd. | 12:05 |
| BluesKaj | nescius, it does take a while to upgrade via the internet | 12:05 |
| rcw2 | yeah | 12:05 |
| lordievader | A selective flash plugin ;) | 12:06 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, does grooveshark play video and audio or ? | 12:06 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, FF dpesn't play video on grooveshark, perhaps your audio is buggy ? | 12:10 |
| rcw2 | after cache cleared and no extensions, still: 'Adobe Flash Player is Required...' [Install Plug-in?], but i [x] out that prompt and I Grooveshark blocks itself with a popup. I can't tell if it *could* do one or the other | 12:10 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, FF is fine | 12:11 |
| rcw2 | just chromium | 12:11 |
| lordievader | rcw2: FWIW, grooveshark has a html5 page. | 12:11 |
| BluesKaj | odd, chromium is fine here | 12:12 |
| rcw2 | lordievader, yeah i was just reminded of that. i might switch even after getting flash working | 12:12 |
| rcw2 | might be faster | 12:12 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, yeah, and someone else said chromium had this or a similar issue, but it was resolved later after updating the OS, but mine is up to date and still has this issue | 12:13 |
| rcw2 | same OS i think they said | 12:14 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, have you updated and upgraded or was chromium installed from a ppa wheile you were on 13.10? | 12:16 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, fully updated 13.10, then upgraded to 14.04, and now fully updated in 14.04 | 12:17 |
| rcw2 | chromium was in 13.01 | 12:17 |
| rcw2 | 13.10* | 12:17 |
| rcw2 | installed from a ppa? | 12:17 |
| BluesKaj | and what about chromium , how was installed originally? | 12:17 |
| rcw2 | BluesKaj, hm, can i determine that from some history ? | 12:18 |
| rcw2 | been a while | 12:19 |
| BluesKaj | rcw2, i think flash is working where it's supposed to work ...as far as I can see grooveshark is an audio channel not a video channel | 12:21 |
| BluesKaj | BBL | 12:21 |
| VanKush | hello everyone | 12:33 |
| VanKush | please can anyone give a hint to me why i cannot successfully go through Kubuntu 1404 usb install? | 12:34 |
| andy123 | describe the problem | 12:35 |
| andy123 | does the installer hang? | 12:35 |
| VanKush | checked the disk, chcecked the checksum of the image, placed it wih KDE usb creator, booted, and seem to get hang whatever I try to do - "try without insalling", configuring wifi in ubiquity, even preboot file sum chceck | 12:36 |
| VanKush | ATM i connected ethernet and it failed to open the step where one sets up partitions | 12:37 |
| VanKush | but it does fatally hang if i choose to try live instead of installing | 12:38 |
| andy123 | so, you press "Next >" in the installer and it hangs? | 12:38 |
| andy123 | before you can see the partitions? | 12:39 |
| VanKush | cursor changes to waiting and nothing happens | 12:39 |
| VanKush | i can click exit or edit wm settings if i wish, but the main window's content stops changing | 12:40 |
| VanKush | yes, before i see any controls to chose guided partitioning or set it up in any way | 12:41 |
| VanKush | hello BluesKaj | 12:42 |
| andy123 | did you try installing without enabling "download updates"? | 12:42 |
| BluesKaj | hi VanKush | 12:43 |
| VanKush | andy123: will try immediately. still it is strange to my that i cannot >try live, it always worked before | 12:43 |
| andy123 | I'm afraid I dont know where your problem is. | 12:44 |
| VanKush | the B2 and some recent dailys behaved the same btw | 12:46 |
| VanKush | is here anyone who might have a hint for me? | 12:50 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Does it hang before the disk setup step? | 12:50 |
| VanKush | it hangs in many situations, but it always hangs before that step too | 12:51 |
| VanKush | haven' got farther yet | 12:52 |
| nescius | i am back with my upgrade issue.. | 12:53 |
| nescius | i am not a great fan of apt system, it is very messy... | 12:53 |
| VanKush | it also hangs when i click >try live, too | 12:53 |
| lordievader | VanKush: When it hangs can you go to a tty? | 12:54 |
| nescius | one would thought that http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ should contain at least one entry from 2014.. or 2013 | 12:54 |
| VanKush | negative | 12:54 |
| lordievader | nescius: Depends on how sync the mirror is. | 12:54 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Hmm sounds like kernel panics or something. | 12:55 |
| nescius | same goes for the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ | 12:55 |
| nescius | lordievader: ^ | 12:55 |
| VanKush | lordievader: 13.10 installer does work well as have all other versions since karmic | 12:56 |
| VanKush | i've read some lines about encrypted swap, will remove it and come back | 12:57 |
| lordievader | nescius: Lookup libkdecore5 that should be updated. | 12:57 |
| nescius | lordievader: yes, there are some updated | 12:58 |
| nescius | i am getting very angry with kubuntu | 12:58 |
| lordievader | ? | 12:59 |
| VanKush | lordievader: i ditched the encrypted swap partition and tried over... switching to tty hags, as does ubiquity on the same step | 13:05 |
| lordievader | VanKush: You can go the Ubuntu Server -> Kubuntu route. Or if you trust your Linux skills, debootstrap Trusty. | 13:07 |
| VanKush | I'm running 13.04 on that book and i don't really trust myself debootstrapping | 13:09 |
| VanKush | sigh, never thought i would need to distrust kubuntu again | 13:10 |
| VanKush | it's been my productive OS since 2007 | 13:11 |
| lordievader | VanKush: That's why I also gave the Ubu server route. That is quite easy. | 13:11 |
| VanKush | where do i get the images | 13:12 |
| VanKush | ...? please :) | 13:12 |
| lordievader | VanKush: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ | 13:13 |
| VanKush | and then what, install kubuntu desktop? | 13:13 |
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| lordievader | VanKush: Yes, install Ubuntu Server. And after the reboot install the package kubuntu-desktop. | 13:15 |
| VanKush | i hope this ain't gonn hurt, i would like to preserve the win7 partition i've been dualbooting | 13:19 |
| BluesKaj | VanKush, not if you use a the manual partitioning option then you can choose the right partition for Kubuntu | 13:21 |
| BluesKaj | in the kubuntu installer that is | 13:21 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Keep paying attention and be sure to have a backup. | 13:22 |
| itotoi | i have a problem with my kubuntu-desktop package, so i've removed it, and now i'm trying to reinstall it but i'm getting "Depends: kde-windows-manager kde-workspace but it is not going to be installed | 13:23 |
| BluesKaj | itotoi, install kde-workspace | 13:24 |
| itotoi | BluesKaj: oh i think it's working now, i had to remove libegl1-mesa | 13:26 |
| BluesKaj | BB in 30 mins | 13:26 |
| itotoi | well let's see i'll try | 13:26 |
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| VanKush | in the interim i tried ubuntu 1404 image, worked flawlessly :\ | 13:39 |
| VanKush | gonna do the server stuff then | 13:39 |
| VanKush | please btw, i cannot have LVM and dualboot to ntfs/win7 at the same time, can I? | 13:40 |
| VanKush | lordievader: please, If i go the server route, will i get xorg or myr then? | 13:41 |
| lordievader | VanKush: You will have Xorg, and lvm + ntfs is possible, as long as the windows partitions are not on the lvm. | 13:50 |
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| VanKush | can I set up LVM on a single logial partition while other partitions on the disc have been already created? | 13:52 |
| VanKush | i mean, from the installer directly | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | VanKush, mir isn't availble on kubuntu | 13:52 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Hmm, I'm not sure if the Ubuntu Server text installer comes with the necessary tools to set up lvm. | 13:56 |
| VanKush | guys please | 14:05 |
| VanKush | imagine my SDA split into four primary partitions (sda1 some oem crap, sda2 windows, sda3 empty, sda4 some more windows oem crap) | 14:07 |
| VanKush | how can I set up LVM on the sda3 primary partition so that i do not hurt other partitions, please? | 14:07 |
| VanKush | inside it i'm gonna need a root partition, a /boot, a swap and another encrypted root for other os | 14:08 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Split sda3 in /boot and a phyisical volume. | 14:10 |
| VanKush | (it seems that i ran out of logical volumes 4 of which i can have, they are all on a single physical drive) | 14:13 |
| VanKush | out of primary volumes i mean | 14:13 |
| VanKush | lordievader: /boot must not be inside lvm? | 14:14 |
| lordievader | VanKush: It can be, but it is much easier to not put it in. Grub doesn't like lvm that much. | 14:15 |
| VanKush | i see that now.. how do I turn the remaining logical volume into a LVM container? | 14:16 |
| lordievader | VanKush: What do you mean? | 14:17 |
| VanKush | i have one physical drive with 3 primary partitions i must not touch, and one primary partition where I would like to set up logical volume management and encryption for at least two OSes | 14:19 |
| VanKush | before I only used LVM+luks on whole disks so I do not know how to proceed | 14:19 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Never set up a luks volume for a rootfs, not sure if you want to do that? | 14:20 |
| captain_haddock | I have 3 Kubuntu installs. What's the most bandwidth effective way to upgrade all three to 14.04? | 14:21 |
| captain_haddock | I have the latest ISO too, FYI | 14:21 |
| captain_haddock | I used to accomplish upgrades using the alternate CD which appears to have gone missing :/ | 14:22 |
| VanKush | lordievader: i dont insist on luks this time, just wanted to encrypt the other root with dmcrypt... kubuntu root should remain unencrypted | 14:22 |
| === dan_ is now known as Guest72908 | ||
| VanKush | lordievader: what i don't know is how to use the only available primary partition to set up logical volume management for kubuntu and other/encrypted OS sharing their /boot partition | 14:24 |
| VanKush | i dont understand which partitions will be managed by LVM by looking at the installer :( | 14:25 |
| lmie | ever since i've installed kubuntu 14.04, i've had a lot of freezes | 14:25 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Don't think pvcreate cares whether the partition is primary or logical. | 14:26 |
| lordievader | VanKush: I'd setup the lvm myself if I where you, I don't like how the installer does the setup. | 14:26 |
| VanKush | what does Kubuntu active do? | 14:58 |
| rcw2 | how much time does kde developer in 14.04 take to learn | 15:08 |
| lts_ | 4.13 is a mazing | 15:37 |
| rvdv | when trying to install drupal 7.27 on a fresh kubuntu install i can not get past the page where the DB is being filled ... not site config page shows up | 16:06 |
| rvdv | in phpmyadmin it shows the DB is filled | 16:07 |
| Shaan7 | rvdv: check /var/log/apache2/error.log for any php errors | 16:07 |
| rvdv | Shaan7: this error log file shows no info releated to the drupal install | 16:08 |
| Shaan7 | rvdv: hmm and what happens if you try to browse to the drupal site manually? http://localhost/drupal or whatever | 16:09 |
| VanKush | lordievader: thank you, it's up now | 16:11 |
| rvdv | Shaan7: it shows a default drupal page with only showing "Page Not Found" ... The requested page "/" could not be found. ... as there is no user setup being done I can not log in | 16:11 |
| lordievader | \o/ | 16:12 |
| VanKush | kinda dislike the greeter though | 16:12 |
| Shaan7 | rvdv: hmm, well without anything in error.log, I can't really think how to proceed :| | 16:12 |
| rvdv | setting up a user through phpmyadmin is kind of a work around i guess ... but this is clearly not as how it should work | 16:13 |
| lordievader | VanKush: What greeter? Lightdm? | 16:13 |
| * VanKush misses kdm | 16:13 | |
| VanKush | yes that one | 16:13 |
| captain_haddock | @rvdv Try #drupal | 16:14 |
| rvdv | captain_haddock: Not sure if it's a drupal problem as I can get it work in Debian and OpenSUSE ... Strangely I can not find any info on google either | 16:15 |
| captain_haddock | rvdv: They'll probably know best how to figure out what's going wrong | 16:17 |
| rvdv | OK | 16:17 |
| captain_haddock | But yes, check the logs, both Drupal and httpd | 16:17 |
| rvdv | thanks | 16:17 |
| captain_haddock | :) | 16:17 |
| VanKush | lordievader: any clue how to get kubuntu greeter theme back? | 16:18 |
| lordievader | VanKush: Don't think kdm will work. | 16:18 |
| rcw2 | yay 14.04 now applies the icon instantly to the program after install, without restarting the os | 16:18 |
| VanKush | lordievader: yea i got that, i just wish for ldm to get the kubuntu flavour's skin/touch | 16:20 |
| VanKush | for consistency sake :) | 16:20 |
| VanKush | ah and there is a more pushing issue, how do I add/set default keyboard layout for the greeter? | 16:22 |
| rick__ | clear | 16:35 |
| MRT1 | How to I access the boot options on the LIVE CD | 16:45 |
| VanKush | MRT1 you hit spacebar when the splash appears | 16:51 |
| m2k1981 | is there any way to download kubuntu 14.04 lts via torrent | 17:13 |
| jacky | m2k1981: strongly recommended using the Web for searching | 17:15 |
| rocco | Hi | 17:15 |
| jacky | m2k1981: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ has rsync and torrent options | 17:15 |
| jacky | rsync's a bit lighter since it's unidirectional (torrents tend to be bidirectional) | 17:15 |
| jacky | hello rocco | 17:16 |
| rocco | whats up | 17:17 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Hello | 17:18 |
| rocco | hey | 17:18 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Does anyone know how to find out what programs are running in the system tray? | 17:19 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I have some mysterious program running that tells me that "No backlight is detected on my system" | 17:19 |
| RaymondTracer_ | *were found on my system" | 17:19 |
| rocco | startup programs? | 17:20 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Good idea.. | 17:20 |
| rocco | xD | 17:20 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I'm not really finding anything | 17:22 |
| rocco | hmm | 17:23 |
| rocco | maybe htop.. | 17:24 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I'm not really finding anything unusual | 17:27 |
| rocco | lets see.. | 17:28 |
| rocco | maybe a bug RaymondTracer_ | 17:28 |
| rocco | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900024 | 17:29 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I | 17:29 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I'm on a desktop, I was trying to find a way to change my screen brightness with software | 17:29 |
| rocco | kubuntu 14.04?? | 17:29 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Yep | 17:30 |
| rocco | check that link,, | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | RaymondTracer_, check power management in system tray settings | 17:30 |
| rocco | maybe helps you out | 17:30 |
| BluesKaj | or system settings as well | 17:30 |
| melodie | hi | 17:32 |
| rocco | hi melodie | 17:32 |
| melodie | I am puzzled, because installing a language pack in Trusty, for a kdepim suite, triggers this: | 17:33 |
| melodie | http://pastebin.fr/33469 | 17:33 |
| melodie | hi rocco | 17:33 |
| melodie | I will try to de activate the "recommands" to see what it does | 17:33 |
| rocco | whats up | 17:33 |
| rocco | oh ,ok | 17:33 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Well I couldnt find anything in power management | 17:34 |
| melodie | APT::Install-Recommends "false"; | 17:34 |
| RaymondTracer_ | The link didnt help | 17:34 |
| melodie | I already have it. :-( | 17:34 |
| rocco | you cgeck power management RaymondTracer_? | 17:35 |
| rocco | check* | 17:35 |
| rocco | ok | 17:35 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Yeah | 17:35 |
| rocco | you are on desktop .... | 17:35 |
| RaymondTracer_ | This monitor doesnt actually have a controllable backlight | 17:35 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Yeah, i'm on a desktop | 17:36 |
| RaymondTracer_ | So any laptop related stuff wouldnt really work | 17:36 |
| rocco | http://askubuntu.com/questions/218953/can-i-control-brightness-on-second-monitor | 17:37 |
| BluesKaj | RaymondTracer_, there'a an app called xbacklight availble in the repos, check the package manager/muon discover for it. | 17:37 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Nope, doesnt appear to be installed | 17:38 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I check Muon for backlight related applications but I couldnt find anything isntalled | 17:38 |
| lordievader | rocco: What kind of screen is it? Usually the brightness of desktop screens cannot be controlled through sofware. | 17:38 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Yeah, I thought there would be a program that could "emulator" the controlling of brightness | 17:39 |
| RaymondTracer_ | emulate* | 17:39 |
| rocco | RaymondTracer_, is a crt? | 17:39 |
| lordievader | RaymondTracer_: I thought that backlightcontrol was going through the kernel to an acpi driver. | 17:40 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I know I might've installed something but the uninstalation musnt of removed everything | 17:40 |
| RaymondTracer_ | rocco: No, its an LED monitor | 17:40 |
| rocco | LED lordievader | 17:40 |
| BluesKaj | RaymondTracer , I have the power management battery icon in the system tray that has a brightness control popup | 17:41 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I'm not on a laptop though | 17:42 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I was trying brightness control programs but they all turned out to be for laptop backlights | 17:42 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I think one of them didnt fully uninstall | 17:42 |
| lordievader | Hmm, it might be different for LED screens, but I don't think it will work. | 17:42 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I just want to try and find it | 17:42 |
| BluesKaj | hehe, no kidding :) | 17:42 |
| RaymondTracer_ | It is | 17:42 |
| RaymondTracer_ | :p | 17:43 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Oh well, thanks for trying to help, i'll just deal with it being there | 17:52 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Its not really effecting anything, just taking up a space in my system tray | 17:52 |
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| RaymondTracer_ | I found out what its called | 17:54 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Its called "indicator-brightness" | 17:54 |
| RaymondTracer_ | I guess i'll have to find a way to get rid of that and it should be fine | 17:55 |
| elnur | Hey. Which DM is used in 14.04? Previously it was LightDM. What is being used now? | 18:02 |
| RaymondTracer_ | Welp, i'm off, thanks again for trying to help | 18:02 |
| Shaan7 | shadeslayer: Riddell: is there a reason kubuntu's phonon (or phononexperimental) package doesn't build the phonon declarative plugins? | 18:08 |
| lordievader | elnur: Lightdm is still used. | 18:09 |
| elnur | lordievader, I've found the new location of lightdm.conf. But thanks. :) | 18:11 |
| captain_haddock | I have a Kubuntu install which does not appear to support an old USB scanner that I have. I've downloaded its old Windows drivers (which do not work on x64 windows systems either). Can I somehow get it working on Linux? | 18:14 |
| captain_haddock | Strike that | 18:14 |
| captain_haddock | I have 3 Kubuntu installs. What's the most bandwidth effective way to upgrade all three to 14.04? I have the latest ISO, FYI. | 18:15 |
| captain_haddock | This ^^ | 18:15 |
| captain_haddock | No alternate CDs any more I hear | 18:15 |
| melodie | captain_haddock | 18:18 |
| melodie | can you type is some commands when you plugin that scanner? such as "usb-devices" and put the output to a pastebin? | 18:18 |
| melodie | captain_haddock ping me when you are ready to try? | 18:20 |
| melodie | captain_haddock if usb-devices sees your usb scanner then maybe we can make it work, sometimes it's just a driver which is not loaded, and has to be loaded manually and added to the modules file under /etc | 18:35 |
| alket | how to make kubuntu when it boots not to open last opened applications, i hope it makes sense, thanks | 18:40 |
| captain_haddock | alket: System settings, startup & shutdown, Session Management | 18:43 |
| alket | captain_haddock: thanks | 18:44 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: I'm ready :) Thanks | 18:44 |
| Quintasan | anyone here got a thinkpad? | 18:44 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: It *is* detected in usb-devices! | 18:45 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: http://paste.kde.org/pxht4uj3u | 18:47 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: I have a Lenovo something in the other room which might qualify. | 18:51 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: Is it running 14.04? | 18:51 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: Nope. It's running Windows atm. It was running 12.04 LTS until this morning. | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | Hrr | 18:52 |
| captain_haddock | (trying to get scanner accessible) | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: Did it suspend on lid closure? | 18:52 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: yep | 18:52 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: Can you tell me if it work OUT OF BOX if you happen to install 14.04? | 18:53 |
| Quintasan | works* | 18:53 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: I'll try, sure | 18:53 |
| melodie | captain_haddock I look | 18:55 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: But I do remember other quirks. The shutdown/logout buttons sometimes stopped working. Google informed me that this was due to issues with the notification system not being able to play ogg files during the alerts. | 18:55 |
| captain_haddock | That didn't really fix it for me... but it might help. | 18:55 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: cheers | 18:55 |
| melodie | captain_haddock Driver=(none) || not good | 18:55 |
| melodie | what brand and model is it? | 18:55 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: The problem is that it does no suspend on battery when the lid is closed by default | 18:55 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: Umax Astra 5600 (pretty old!) | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | And then when I set it up in power management maually it does suspend | 18:56 |
| Quintasan | But it doesn't work correctly | 18:56 |
| melodie | captain_haddock do you know if it needs a firmware? | 18:56 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: I don't. Sorry | 18:56 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: Does it do so in other OSes/versions? | 18:57 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: It works in Windows and I'm ALMOST sure it did work in 12.04 out of box | 18:58 |
| captain_haddock | I have had to bang the lid close in some laptops to get the action detected. | 18:58 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: The keyword here is ALMOST :P | 18:58 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: :) | 18:58 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: Perhaps you can create a new user account to test this. It might mimic "out of the box" to some extent. | 18:59 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: I have the windows drivers. I've looked on xsane to no avail | 18:59 |
| melodie | captain_haddock do you have a driver for Windows for this usb scanner, that you could install with WINE and perhaps from there install the INF file with ndiswrapper? | 19:00 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: I somehow forced it to suspend via Power Management but it does not change the fact that it does not work as expected | 19:00 |
| Quintasan | Damn it. | 19:00 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: I do have a .exe file that supposedly has the drivers. Let me try installing it with WINE. I will need your assistance with the ndiswrapper as that's Greek to me (and I don't speak Greek :D) | 19:01 |
| melodie | captain_haddock ndiswrapper needs some tools and there are docs in the Ubuntu forums for that, I'll try to find one for you | 19:02 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: Thank you! | 19:03 |
| captain_haddock | Last release of xsane was in 2010 :( | 19:03 |
| melodie | captain_haddock well, lately I tried reinstalling a driver from windows for a pcmcia wifi card, but it failed sadly | 19:04 |
| melodie | so I gave up on that card | 19:04 |
| Quintasan | captain_haddock: Hah, thanks, on a new user suspend works correctly but it does not work on my user accoun | 19:05 |
| melodie | captain_haddock your system is Trusty, right? | 19:05 |
| Quintasan | I seriously wonder what's going wrong there. | 19:05 |
| melodie | Quintasan what groups are your user in? | 19:11 |
| melodie | type "id" in the terminal, as simple user | 19:11 |
| melodie | do you see "power" ? | 19:12 |
| melodie | does the group power exist in /etc/group ? | 19:12 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: Yep, it is. Fresh install. | 19:16 |
| captain_haddock | Quintasan: :) Perhaps you can compare configurations. | 19:16 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: I'm also trying to install XP 32 in a VM simultaneously. XP64 (on another laptop) did not help with the drivers :( | 19:17 |
| oeizo | i upgraded to 14.04 but now to connect to my wifi network without putting my password each time; it looks like kwallet isn't working anymore | 19:32 |
| melodie | captain_haddock I understand that this could be helpful, if you can get it to connect to the USB ports of the host | 19:32 |
| melodie | captain_haddock my concern this week is different, it is about Mail clients and Addressbooks | 19:33 |
| melodie | so here I talk about Kmail and Kaddressbook specifically, and also Kontacts of course (I am on the #kontact chan that valorie told me about yesterday, and where I got lots of help today) | 19:34 |
| captain_haddock | melodie: Yep. I apparently need some extension pack or some such. | 19:37 |
| captain_haddock | I was not a fan of Kmail when I tried it a few years ago. | 19:37 |
| captain_haddock | oeizo: FWIW, you can turn off KWallet. | 19:38 |
| oeizo | captain_haddock: if i turn it off, how will my wifi passwords be saved? | 19:38 |
| captain_haddock | oeizo: It won't be saved securely. But it'll be saved in plain text. | 19:39 |
| oeizo | it's ok :) just a wifi password | 19:39 |
| captain_haddock | (i.e., it's a security risk) | 19:39 |
| captain_haddock | oeizo: :) | 19:39 |
| oeizo | captain_haddock: i disabled it, then went in the settings of the wifi network and put my password, but then if i close and open again, the password isn't here anymore | 19:42 |
| captain_haddock | oeizo: Try to see what happens after you log out / reboot and log back in. | 19:43 |
| oeizo | ok brb | 19:43 |
| melodie | oeizo I have been told today that the kwalletmanager can be opened without a password, then you can ask it to keep the passwords, but won't be prompted to enter your password in | 19:44 |
| melodie | if this can help | 19:44 |
| melodie | this is the kind of thing which I have been testing all week long, with Kdepim and with Evolution side by side, on several machines, and in virtualbox machines too | 19:45 |
| melodie | this is a very intensive testing :D | 19:45 |
| ezoo | i disconnected and reconnected but the networkmanager widget still doesn't remember password | 19:49 |
| ezoo | i saw someone message me right before i disconnected but didn't get the time to read sorry | 19:50 |
| melodie | ezoo | 19:56 |
| melodie | <melodie> oeizo I have been told today that the kwalletmanager can be opened without a password, then you can ask it to keep the passwords, but won't be prompted to enter your password in | 19:56 |
| melodie | <melodie> if this can help | 19:56 |
| melodie | ezoo is that what you were just asking? | 19:56 |
| ezoo | melodie: not sure what is not working, but my problem is that networkmanager cannot remember the password of the wifi networks/vpns (i tried enabling or disabled kwalletmanager) | 19:57 |
| melodie | ezoo I have seen that before, I think you may have something not well configured in the networkmanager | 20:02 |
| melodie | I have to fire mine to check if I remember what it was | 20:03 |
| melodie | ezoo open your network manager > modify configuratin > tab wireless | 20:04 |
| melodie | check then in the wireless tab, if yyou have the Mac address of the peripheral showing, with the name of the interphase in parenthesis | 20:05 |
| melodie | you must also see the SSID in the filed, and the mode Infrastructure | 20:05 |
| melodie | then in the tab Security | 20:05 |
| melodie | you must check that you are indeed using the right type of security, and in the bottom left that it is available for all users. | 20:06 |
| melodie | ezoo to be sure of the type of security you may have to check with the interface of your box in front of you as well. | 20:06 |
| melodie | ezoo hope that helps you | 20:07 |
| ezoo | melodie: this is what i have in wireless security http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/20/plasma-desktopPb2937.png (this is where i enter my password) | 20:08 |
| melodie | ezoo this is where you must put your password | 20:16 |
| melodie | have you also checked the tab "General" ? | 20:17 |
| ezoo | melodie: when i put it and reopen this window, the password isn't there anymore; in General i have tried to check the "for all users" checkbox, but then i cannot validate: http://i.imgur.com/jj4CtrS.png | 20:23 |
| melodie | ezoo what do you have in the button "Advanced" from this screenshot? | 20:26 |
| melodie | and what do you have in the tab "Wireless" ? | 20:26 |
| somekool | what would be the easiest way to do kde related packages upgrades separately, and non-kde related packages upgrades after ? | 20:27 |
| ezoo | melodie: in advanced, i have an allowed user which is me, and another user which is in the "available" list, 'sambo' | 20:28 |
| ezoo | melodie: in wireless, i have the ssid, and mode: infrastructure and other things | 20:28 |
| melodie | ezoo what if you do a "sudo ifconfig down eth0" when you connect in wifi mode? | 20:29 |
| ezoo | melodie: you mean right now? eth0: Unknown host | 20:34 |
| average_guy | How do I get twitter updates frm choqok and quassel channel msgs in desktop notifications in 14.04 kubuntu? Is there not an easy way to get pop-ups? | 20:50 |
| average_guy | I am completely new to KDE | 20:51 |
| melodie | ezoo if you don't have eth0 it can be something else, eth1 or eth2 : do "sudo ifconfig -a " and look what you have | 20:55 |
| ezoo | melodie: i do have eth0 when doing just ifconfig | 20:55 |
| ezoo | (but no ethernet cable plugged in) | 20:56 |
| TheFakeazneD525 | average_guy: probably an option in settings > notifications. Uses system tray for notifications | 20:56 |
| melodie | ezoo no matter the cable, sometimes you have better time putting the eth0 down | 20:59 |
| melodie | sudo ifconfig eth0 down | 20:59 |
| ezoo | melodie: oh this worked, oh it was swapped | 21:00 |
| ezoo | melodie: networkmanager still forgets about the password :( | 21:00 |
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| melodie | ezoo is that Kubuntu 14.04 ? | 21:09 |
| ezoo | melodie: yes i've just upgraded | 21:09 |
| melodie | from which version have you upgraded? | 21:10 |
| ezoo | 13.10 | 21:10 |
| melodie | do you always use wifi or sometimes ethernet too with this machine? | 21:10 |
| ezoo | sometimes ethernet | 21:11 |
| melodie | have you checked what I told you a moment ago, in the router? | 21:11 |
| melodie | in the user interface of the box, in your web browser? | 21:11 |
| ezoo | i must have missed it | 21:11 |
| melodie | you should check the type of security which is configured in the box, if it is a mismatch with the configuration in your network manager that can be a source of issue | 21:12 |
| ezoo | oh yes that, no yes it is indeed WPA personal | 21:13 |
| ezoo | (i don't remember if i've said it, but i can connect normally) | 21:13 |
| melodie | ezoo please check | 21:15 |
| melodie | you can connect but you get prompted again and again and that could be the source (happened to me) | 21:16 |
| ezoo | i've checked on the router page on my browser | 21:16 |
| melodie | ok | 21:16 |
| ezoo | (unrelated, what happened kubuntu-low-fat-settings package) | 21:16 |
| ezoo | melodie: this is what it says: http://i.imgur.com/g3QdmWN.png (maybe i missed something) | 21:17 |
| melodie | I don't know what means what you just said | 21:17 |
| ezoo | (it's a package which disables a bunch of service, to make kubuntu faster) | 21:17 |
| melodie | ezoo lol! | 21:17 |
| melodie | can we talk privately? We talk the same language :D | 21:17 |
| melodie | et en plus j'ai le même FAI | 21:18 |
| melodie | ezoo unless you come to #kde-fr | 21:19 |
| bprompt | !fr | melodie | 21:46 |
| ubottu | melodie: Nous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci. | 21:46 |
| melodie | bprompt you are late | 21:48 |
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| melodie | good night | 22:34 |
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| RiotingPacifist | loginctl list-sessions shows no active sesions, is this normal? | 23:04 |
| Rocco__ | o/ | 23:25 |
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