=== carlos is now known as Guest63222 === kubuntu is now known as Guest71614 === jackyalcine is now known as jacky === jacky is now known as jackyalcine === jackyalcine is now known as jacky === brent is now known as BigBear === BigBear is now known as bshambaugh [02:23] hello?? [03:05] hi all I cannot get rid of the grub2 boot menu ... using 14.04 [03:32] Hello === c_smith_ is now known as c_smith [03:33] I installed kubuntu 14.04 , but can nit start calligra (word) on this version !!! [03:33] this paste : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288746/ [03:49] nobody help me ? [04:01] nobody, so sad [04:29] mah454: sec and I will try it too [04:29] u1 [04:29] oops [04:30] u19809: are you saying you get to grub, and then can't login? [04:33] pfff === jacky is now known as Not === Not is now known as jacky [05:31] Hi [05:33] hi === jacky is now known as Not === Not is now known as jacky [05:54] hello [05:59] тут по-русски говорят? [06:01] exit [06:02] err [06:02] is there a russian ubuntu channel? [06:02] !ru | arestoff [06:02] arestoff: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [06:03] ubottu: thanks! [06:03] You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-) [06:03] sh*t [06:05] lmfao [06:16] ada orang indonesia disini??? [06:16] !id [06:16] join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia [06:17] tapi itu room kok sepi yah [06:40] Running docky on my desktop and am encountering a strange behavior [06:41] When I first login the icons on the dock are the stock KDE icons; however, I use Compass. If I switch my icon theme to something other than Compass and back again, docky updates properly, just not on first login [06:42] is this a gtk application? [06:43] if so I think there is a gtk-theming thing [06:43] but I always use stock, so .... [06:44] maybe somebody else knows, but IRC tonight is like a graveyard at midnight [06:44] Oh, well I did find a setting under GTK for icon theme [06:44] did that help? [06:44] It defaults to Oxygen [06:44] But I can't select my theme [06:45] that's strange [06:45] anyone else unable to start a chat using KDE Telepathy IM on Kubuntu 14.04? [06:46] Well, Compass isn't present in the list [06:46] It's Oxygen themes (2) and Hi-color [06:46] passing strange [06:46] But I think they are GTK specific themes [06:47] So it adds a default Oxygen GTK-compatible Icon theme [06:50] k, gonna test this out [06:51] OK, that works :) [06:51] Now is the only way to change the lock-screen background still to hack in a new version of Elarun? [06:51] It's the last thing I have to do tonight before I sleep to customize all of this :) [06:52] hmmm, that I don't know [06:52] I either use the stock or asquiaquarium [06:57] Well I can't find a way to configure it [06:58] !lock-screen [06:58] ubottu doesn't know [06:59] I think lock screen is kwin, if that helps your googling [07:09] https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=110039#p293799 [07:09] Arcane, but it works rather well :) [07:19] looks like there are simple and complicated ways both === user__ is now known as rcw2 [07:22] Good morning. [07:22] mornin' [07:23] Hey rcw2, how are you? [07:24] alright, you? [07:25] Doing okay, still waking up for a bit. [07:28] im trying to wake up my laptop's connection to the internet here [07:28] rcw2: Cable or wifi? [07:29] hi guys! [07:29] o/ [07:30] settign new software channels fetching is complete - stuck at 9% so much for the smooth upgrade... [07:30] i upgraded my kubu box to 14lts. now every time when i start my computer have to manually set up my network connection [07:31] i have a couple of network connections. instead of going on the right connection the network manager is selecting another one [07:32] at least you managed to finish the upgrade :-) what is the network card? wireless, wired? [07:32] aha wi-fi? [07:32] did you run in similar problem? [07:32] the "wrong one" might have stronger signal and is unlocked? [07:32] no i am stuck on upgarde. [07:34] Is Kubuntu packed with the amazon spyware? [07:34] no [07:35] we don't have unity at all [07:35] Anything else that would use random bandwidth ? [07:35] another problem is that when i'm starting my laptop(cold boot) the keyboard is not working and i need to attach an usb keyboard to be able to restart or work. any idea why this happens ? [07:35] SuperFireAl: I can't imagine what [07:35] this is random [07:36] Gregor3000: how long as it been "stuck"? [07:37] oh i reset it. it was completely stuck. had to take the batery out [07:37] one of my laptops seemed to be stuck for quite awhile, but it finished right along with the other box [07:37] oh my [07:38] yeah [07:38] what is the upgrade command? sudo do-release-upgrade -c? [07:39] -d [07:39] although you don't need that now [07:39] the d [07:39] since it is released [07:40] Gregor3000: please ensure that you have commented out all PPAs [07:40] Alright. I might as well try the latest LTS from Mint Maya. Mint wasn't running that fast even with XFCE [07:40] this seems to be causing problems this time around [07:40] ive run through this installation outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash but firefox loads a flash app fine, while chrome requests flash just like before, even after system restart [07:40] this is just after upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04 [07:41] rcw2: that happened one day this last week for me in chromium, but th enext day updates fixed it [07:41] the next, geez [07:41] it seems to be working now [07:41] great, Gregor3000 === krz is now known as Guest47931 [07:44] valorie, hmm, im all up to date it seems [07:49] recw2: isn't the flash plugin included in restricted extras package? or is this a different plugin? i have on 12.04 restricted extras and every time there is a flash update a script is run when you manually and separatelly install flash. so far it works on firefox and chromium. [07:52] yes, `kubuntu-restricted-extras` [07:52] you can choose to install this when you do a new install, and if you upgrade, it should be as well [08:18] "install third party while installing" will give all the flash, and so forth to play MP3s, etc? [08:19] yes [08:20] sweetness. [08:21] I wonder how long before Mint releases an edition based on ubuntu ? [08:21] I guess not something can be answered here though [08:22] no idea, unless there are some mint peeps in the chan [08:23] usually it's about 2 or 3 months after ubuntu. but mostly it is when it's ready. i remember there was a KDE release not long ago taht wasn't ready at all and was never released. [08:27] Is there some universal way of changing the font size? [08:27] instead of every detail (Konsole, firefox, etc) [08:29] oh I found out [08:29] yay vision [08:32] yeah i usually just use the zoom. crtl+mouse wheel forward [08:34] Wow it actually installed all the updates while installing [08:34] That's a first [08:35] I always do that [08:35] saves time [08:36] Usually when the version is old though there is still about 300 more MBs of stuff [08:37] which version are you installing? [08:38] 14.04 [08:38] ah [08:38] well, that just came out a few days ago [08:39] no .1 yet [08:39] the devels haven't yet recovered from the release madness [08:50] I updated kubuntu 14.04 the all sw seems response slowly. I noticed my hard drive is continuely being read or written. Is the slow response has something to do with it? Is it caused by akonadi_baloo_indexer? [08:51] Is there anyway to stop the indexer? [08:52] I know there was an option to disable the nepomuk indexer in the control panel [08:53] but I cant find one for baloo [08:53] yes, it's baloo, and it will finish indexing soon [08:53] if you do alt+f2 and type baloo, you can get to the config [08:54] blacklist your home if you want [08:54] once it's done it's not noticeable [08:55] It has been tortured my hard drive and me for whole day and has no sign of completing [08:55] thanks for your advice. I am trying. [08:55] :-) [08:56] some go directly to the config file and turn of indexing but I think that's extreme [08:56] if you have lots of mail though, it can be intense [08:59] I hope there will be a configure tool in control panel soon. I actually dont know how to modify the config file. But I found a tool setting the directory being neglected by indexer [09:00] afaik the developer doesn't want users to notice it at all [09:00] but I think he'll have to dial down the intensity if he wants that to be true [09:01] it is supposed to Just Work [09:01] yeah right. it affect my work. [09:02] cant take it any more [09:03] Open $HOME/.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc and change the option 'Indexing-Enabled=true' to 'Indexing-Enabled=false' [09:04] I think it is .kde/share etc. [09:06] oh I found it. it is at $HOME/.kde/share/config [09:06] I will shut it down [09:07] valorie: Yes on Ubuntu it is ~/.kde instead of ~/.kde4 [09:07] mine has already been set to false. weird [09:08] so the intensive hard drive access must be caused by other underlying sw. [09:09] xieyi: Try iotop, show you what is causing the io. [09:09] Is there other possible cause for it ? [09:13] I am installing it. it is a very slow process [09:17] it is baloo_file_cleaner [09:18] any idea about this tool? [09:19] its is the file indexer that lordievader was talking about. [09:19] you can go to system settings > desktop search [09:20] I have disable baloo from its config file. i dont know what else I can do. [09:20] and add your HOME folder to the excluded folders [09:20] yeah I have add my home to the blacklist [09:20] then reboot [09:20] maybe I should reboot once. [09:20] yes [09:20] ok thanks [09:20] I am trying it [09:20] np [09:22] everybody seems to have problem with the baloo malware [09:31] It works. baloo stop bothering me any more. thank you guys! [09:31] hi [09:31] i would like to know the steps to install unity in kubuntu === realmkeeper is now known as Guest31339 [09:32] why dont you install ubuntu instead [09:32] apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [09:32] only one step [09:33] Hi xieyi.. i actually installed ubuntu first and then tried installed kubuntu using apg-get kubuntu-desktop [09:33] but it kept throwing an error when i tried logging into kde [09:33] so i'm thinking of installing kde first and then try unity [09:34] what is the error [09:34] I am just curious. I keep using kde and have not experienced such problem before [09:34] just a min.. i'll lookup [09:36] the error is : call to lnusertemp failed [09:37] (temporary directories full?). check your installation [09:38] It is out of my knowledge [09:38] :-P [09:38] :( [09:38] hope some one else can give you some hints [09:38] Hello! [09:39] hi [09:39] kde_user: Are they? [09:39] yes [09:39] kde_user: Are the temporary directories full? [09:39] Ive just installed Kubuntu 14.04 ..its working nice.. However, I was looking for some kind of post installation tips?? [09:40] what kind? [09:40] bumblebee? [09:41] my java is not working inside chromium in trusty, any idea ? [09:41] Hey guys. Happy easter for starters. I'm trying to get spdif pass through to work. More into detail: I'd like to watch a movie with DTS, my sound card can't decode it, but my speaker system can. I'd like to use that to get 5.1 over optical. [09:41] lordievader: well, i don't know how to check exactly. [09:41] kde_user: Check "df -h" [09:41] can u help me out [09:41] kde_user: Is there anything at 100%? [09:42] no [09:44] kde_user: Hmm, nothing nearly full either? [09:45] yes.. max is 11% for /dev/sda8 [09:45] hello. I just upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 and driver manager keeps showing up occasionally asking me to choose the driver to install(I have an nvidia card). I choose a driver and select okay but it doesn't seem to install anything. Could somone help out here? [09:48] okay so I guess the option I chose had all the files installed :) [09:49] kde_user: Meh, more than enough room. Don't know why it would be complaining about possible temp dirs being full. [09:51] lordievader: i'll try re-installing the os [09:51] thanks [09:51] bye [10:06] how to set up program to start on boot? e.g. - skype [10:08] Gregor3000: System-settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autorun [10:10] found it, thanks [10:13] ;) [10:17] Русскоговорящие есть? [10:18] !ru | mihalych [10:18] mihalych: Пожалуйста наберите /join #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке. | Pozhalujsta naberite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke. [10:36] adobe says download libflashplayer.so and install it. any reason this method shouldn't be followed? [10:39] rcw2: Because Flash is in the repo? [10:39] !info flashplugin-installer [10:39] flashplugin-installer (source: flashplugin-nonfree): Adobe Flash Player plugin installer. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 11.2.202.350ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 6 kB, installed size 136 kB (Only available for i386; amd64) [10:41] 'Morning folks [10:42] hello... [10:43] hi VJM [10:44] could i ask a newbie question about kubuntu 14.04? [10:44] ask away, VJM [10:45] cool.... blank new installation... how do i change the desktop wallpaper???? [10:45] there's no option in system settings | desktop theme [10:46] VJM: Right click the desktop -> default desktop settings [10:46] oh.... there! [10:46] thanks lordievader [10:46] VJM, right click on the desktop, choose default desktop settings , then click on the : [10:47] not immediately obvious [10:47] thanks Blueskaj [10:47] open [10:48] then navigate to your folder that contains whatever images you want [10:49] got it... thanks very much BluesKaj [10:49] VJM, np :) [10:51] VJM, you can have a different image for each virtual desktop as well [10:52] To where does dpkg/apt unpack the contents of deb packages? [10:53] i see 'flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.' but its not working in chromium/kubuntu 14.04. any suggestions? os is up to date [10:54] user__: Chromium is in the process of going over to a new api system, I figure flash is still broken upstream. [10:54] user__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2NTg [10:56] user__, install the pepperflash-plugin === user__ is now known as rcw2 [10:57] . [10:59] BluesKaj, pepperflashplugin-nonfree package already installed [10:59] already the newest [11:03] rcw2, pepperflashplugin-nonfree ? [11:05] BluesKaj, yes [11:26] hello, do you know url for the repository for kde packages for 14.04? [11:26] i cannot find it in the upgrade guide [11:26] nescius: Do you mean the backports? [11:27] lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p5bctolkn [11:28] nescius, don't change the sources to upgrade, just run sudo do-release-upgrade, but make sure you update and upgrade 13.10 first [11:29] i am [11:29] both 13.10 and fully updated [11:29] nescius: What command brought you that output? [11:30] I have issues with updating 4.11.5 to 4.12 i guess [11:30] lordievader: do-release-upgrade.. (its actually grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ) [11:30] Did you have the backports enabled in Saucy? [11:32] nescius, then run dist-upgrade to get the latest kde release [11:32] BluesKaj: dist-upgrade: command not found [11:32] nescius: He means apt-get dist-upgrade ;) [11:33] sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [11:40] well, thanks for help, maybe it will work afterwards [11:41] right, it wont [11:41] as i said, there are no KDE packages in the repositories [11:41] no new ones at least [11:42] 'newer' than 4.11.5 [11:42] dist-upgrade will update everything and simply remove KDE [11:43] which is not actually what i wanted [11:43] !info kdelibs-bin saucy [11:43] kdelibs-bin (source: kde4libs): core executables for KDE Applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 (saucy), package size 195 kB, installed size 863 kB [11:44] Hmm, that is the default for Saucy. I wonder why it doesn't want to upgrade to Trusty... [11:44] !info kdelibs-bin trusty [11:44] kdelibs-bin (source: kde4libs): core executables for KDE Applications. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.13.0-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 195 kB, installed size 864 kB [11:45] lordievader: i am trying to find out for couple of days.. [11:45] .. i forgot to mention that i am using japanese mirror [11:45] maybe that is the problem [11:46] what is best mirror to try? [11:46] nescius: It could be behind. Try changing the mirror. [11:47] uk or us mirrors [11:47] nescius,^ [11:48] trying it again with bytemark as a mirror [11:50] BluesKaj, any suggestions on my last question? [11:53]

To all having sound issues since upgrade to 14.04: http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/ - SECTION 3 [11:55] rcw2, could you post a url where flash isn't working [11:55] BluesKaj, grooveshark.com [11:58] rcw2, that's a music site, flash isn't playing any video there, try youtube to make sure [12:01] BluesKaj: Grooveshark uses a lot of flash IIRC. [12:02] dd, that's an ubuntu tutorial the graphics depicted don't fit kubuntu/kde. [12:03] most websites do use flash. yes , but as avideo player i don't see any video on grooveshark. lordievader [12:03]

BluesKaj, I tried the two commands in section 3 yesterday, worked fine for me :-) But I don't know much about sound systems (ALSA, PulseAudio what the.... :-S) [12:03] i think there is a repository issue.. it does not upgrade even from bytemark mirror, i removed all repositories and kept the ones from do-release-upgrade, but still no KDE packages [12:05] BluesKaj: Wasn't rcw2 problem a non working flash plugin? [12:05] BluesKaj, youtube works, hm [12:05] Hehe. How odd. [12:05] nescius, it does take a while to upgrade via the internet [12:05] yeah [12:06] A selective flash plugin ;) [12:06] rcw2, does grooveshark play video and audio or ? [12:10] rcw2, FF dpesn't play video on grooveshark, perhaps your audio is buggy ? [12:10] after cache cleared and no extensions, still: 'Adobe Flash Player is Required...' [Install Plug-in?], but i [x] out that prompt and I Grooveshark blocks itself with a popup. I can't tell if it *could* do one or the other [12:11] BluesKaj, FF is fine [12:11] just chromium [12:11] rcw2: FWIW, grooveshark has a html5 page. [12:12] odd, chromium is fine here [12:12] lordievader, yeah i was just reminded of that. i might switch even after getting flash working [12:12] might be faster [12:13] BluesKaj, yeah, and someone else said chromium had this or a similar issue, but it was resolved later after updating the OS, but mine is up to date and still has this issue [12:14] same OS i think they said [12:16] rcw2, have you updated and upgraded or was chromium installed from a ppa wheile you were on 13.10? [12:17] BluesKaj, fully updated 13.10, then upgraded to 14.04, and now fully updated in 14.04 [12:17] chromium was in 13.01 [12:17] 13.10* [12:17] installed from a ppa? [12:17] and what about chromium , how was installed originally? [12:18] BluesKaj, hm, can i determine that from some history ? [12:19] been a while [12:21] rcw2, i think flash is working where it's supposed to work ...as far as I can see grooveshark is an audio channel not a video channel [12:21] BBL [12:33] hello everyone [12:34] please can anyone give a hint to me why i cannot successfully go through Kubuntu 1404 usb install? [12:35] describe the problem [12:35] does the installer hang? [12:36] checked the disk, chcecked the checksum of the image, placed it wih KDE usb creator, booted, and seem to get hang whatever I try to do - "try without insalling", configuring wifi in ubiquity, even preboot file sum chceck [12:37] ATM i connected ethernet and it failed to open the step where one sets up partitions [12:38] but it does fatally hang if i choose to try live instead of installing [12:38] so, you press "Next >" in the installer and it hangs? [12:39] before you can see the partitions? [12:39] cursor changes to waiting and nothing happens [12:40] i can click exit or edit wm settings if i wish, but the main window's content stops changing [12:41] yes, before i see any controls to chose guided partitioning or set it up in any way [12:42] hello BluesKaj [12:42] did you try installing without enabling "download updates"? [12:43] hi VanKush [12:43] andy123: will try immediately. still it is strange to my that i cannot >try live, it always worked before [12:44] I'm afraid I dont know where your problem is. [12:46] the B2 and some recent dailys behaved the same btw [12:50] is here anyone who might have a hint for me? [12:50] VanKush: Does it hang before the disk setup step? [12:51] it hangs in many situations, but it always hangs before that step too [12:52] haven' got farther yet [12:53] i am back with my upgrade issue.. [12:53] i am not a great fan of apt system, it is very messy... [12:53] it also hangs when i click >try live, too [12:54] VanKush: When it hangs can you go to a tty? [12:54] one would thought that http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ should contain at least one entry from 2014.. or 2013 [12:54] negative [12:54] nescius: Depends on how sync the mirror is. [12:55] VanKush: Hmm sounds like kernel panics or something. [12:55] same goes for the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ [12:55] lordievader: ^ [12:56] lordievader: 13.10 installer does work well as have all other versions since karmic [12:57] i've read some lines about encrypted swap, will remove it and come back [12:57] nescius: Lookup libkdecore5 that should be updated. [12:58] lordievader: yes, there are some updated [12:58] i am getting very angry with kubuntu [12:59] ? [13:05] lordievader: i ditched the encrypted swap partition and tried over... switching to tty hags, as does ubiquity on the same step [13:07] VanKush: You can go the Ubuntu Server -> Kubuntu route. Or if you trust your Linux skills, debootstrap Trusty. [13:09] I'm running 13.04 on that book and i don't really trust myself debootstrapping [13:10] sigh, never thought i would need to distrust kubuntu again [13:11] it's been my productive OS since 2007 [13:11] VanKush: That's why I also gave the Ubu server route. That is quite easy. [13:12] where do i get the images [13:12] ...? please :) [13:13] VanKush: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ [13:13] and then what, install kubuntu desktop? === emanuele is now known as betaFPUIKnowYou [13:15] VanKush: Yes, install Ubuntu Server. And after the reboot install the package kubuntu-desktop. [13:19] i hope this ain't gonn hurt, i would like to preserve the win7 partition i've been dualbooting [13:21] VanKush, not if you use a the manual partitioning option then you can choose the right partition for Kubuntu [13:21] in the kubuntu installer that is [13:22] VanKush: Keep paying attention and be sure to have a backup. [13:23] i have a problem with my kubuntu-desktop package, so i've removed it, and now i'm trying to reinstall it but i'm getting "Depends: kde-windows-manager kde-workspace but it is not going to be installed [13:24] itotoi, install kde-workspace [13:26] BluesKaj: oh i think it's working now, i had to remove libegl1-mesa [13:26] BB in 30 mins [13:26] well let's see i'll try === calin is now known as crucerucalin [13:39] in the interim i tried ubuntu 1404 image, worked flawlessly :\ [13:39] gonna do the server stuff then [13:40] please btw, i cannot have LVM and dualboot to ntfs/win7 at the same time, can I? [13:41] lordievader: please, If i go the server route, will i get xorg or myr then? [13:50] VanKush: You will have Xorg, and lvm + ntfs is possible, as long as the windows partitions are not on the lvm. === soee_ is now known as soee [13:52] can I set up LVM on a single logial partition while other partitions on the disc have been already created? [13:52] i mean, from the installer directly [13:52] VanKush, mir isn't availble on kubuntu [13:56] VanKush: Hmm, I'm not sure if the Ubuntu Server text installer comes with the necessary tools to set up lvm. [14:05] guys please [14:07] imagine my SDA split into four primary partitions (sda1 some oem crap, sda2 windows, sda3 empty, sda4 some more windows oem crap) [14:07] how can I set up LVM on the sda3 primary partition so that i do not hurt other partitions, please? [14:08] inside it i'm gonna need a root partition, a /boot, a swap and another encrypted root for other os [14:10] VanKush: Split sda3 in /boot and a phyisical volume. [14:13] (it seems that i ran out of logical volumes 4 of which i can have, they are all on a single physical drive) [14:13] out of primary volumes i mean [14:14] lordievader: /boot must not be inside lvm? [14:15] VanKush: It can be, but it is much easier to not put it in. Grub doesn't like lvm that much. [14:16] i see that now.. how do I turn the remaining logical volume into a LVM container? [14:17] VanKush: What do you mean? [14:19] i have one physical drive with 3 primary partitions i must not touch, and one primary partition where I would like to set up logical volume management and encryption for at least two OSes [14:19] before I only used LVM+luks on whole disks so I do not know how to proceed [14:20] VanKush: Never set up a luks volume for a rootfs, not sure if you want to do that? [14:21] I have 3 Kubuntu installs. What's the most bandwidth effective way to upgrade all three to 14.04? [14:21] I have the latest ISO too, FYI [14:22]