[02:23] <nishchal> hello??
[03:05] <u19809> hi all I cannot get rid of the grub2 boot menu ... using 14.04
[03:32] <mah454> Hello
[03:33] <mah454> I installed kubuntu 14.04 , but can nit start calligra (word) on this version !!!
[03:33] <mah454> this paste : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288746/
[03:49] <mah454> nobody help me ?
[04:01] <roney_> nobody, so sad
[04:29] <valorie> mah454: sec and I will try it too
[04:29] <valorie> u1
[04:29] <valorie> oops
[04:30] <valorie> u19809: are you saying you get to grub, and then can't login?
[04:33] <valorie> pfff
[05:31] <captain_haddock> Hi
[05:33] <roney_> hi
[05:54] <pslinux> hello
[05:59] <arestoff> тут по-русски говорят?
[06:01] <pslinux> exit
[06:02] <jacky> err
[06:02] <jacky> is there a russian ubuntu channel?
[06:02] <Unit193> !ru | arestoff
[06:03] <arestoff> ubottu: thanks!
[06:03] <arestoff> sh*t
[06:05] <jacky> lmfao
[06:16] <hafiz_> ada orang indonesia disini???
[06:16] <Unit193> !id
[06:17] <hafiz_> tapi itu room kok sepi yah
[06:40] <Etriaph> Running docky on my desktop and am encountering a strange behavior
[06:41] <Etriaph> When I first login the icons on the dock are the stock KDE icons; however, I use Compass.  If I switch my icon theme to something other than Compass and back again, docky updates properly, just not on first login
[06:42] <valorie> is this a gtk application?
[06:43] <valorie> if so I think there is a gtk-theming thing
[06:43] <valorie> but I always use stock, so ....
[06:44] <valorie> maybe somebody else knows, but IRC tonight is like a graveyard at midnight
[06:44] <Etriaph> Oh, well I did find a setting under GTK for icon theme
[06:44] <valorie> did that help?
[06:44] <Etriaph> It defaults to Oxygen
[06:44] <Etriaph> But I can't select my theme
[06:45] <valorie> that's strange
[06:45] <Shaan7> anyone else unable to start a chat using KDE Telepathy IM on Kubuntu 14.04?
[06:46] <Etriaph> Well, Compass isn't present in the list
[06:46] <Etriaph> It's Oxygen themes (2) and Hi-color
[06:46] <valorie> passing strange
[06:46] <Etriaph> But I think they are GTK specific themes
[06:47] <Etriaph> So it adds a default Oxygen GTK-compatible Icon theme
[06:50] <Etriaph> k, gonna test this out
[06:51] <Etriaph> OK, that works :)
[06:51] <Etriaph> Now is the only way to change the lock-screen background still to hack in a new version of Elarun?
[06:51] <Etriaph> It's the last thing I have to do tonight before I sleep to customize all of this :)
[06:52] <valorie> hmmm, that I don't know
[06:52] <valorie> I either use the stock or asquiaquarium
[06:57] <Etriaph> Well I can't find a way to configure it
[06:58] <valorie> !lock-screen
[06:58] <valorie> ubottu doesn't know
[06:59] <valorie> I think lock screen is kwin, if that helps your googling
[07:09] <Etriaph> https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=110039#p293799
[07:09] <Etriaph> Arcane, but it works rather well :)
[07:19] <valorie> looks like there are simple and complicated ways both
[07:22] <lordievader> Good morning.
[07:22] <rcw2> mornin'
[07:23] <lordievader> Hey rcw2, how are you?
[07:24] <rcw2> alright, you?
[07:25] <lordievader> Doing okay, still waking up for a bit.
[07:28] <rcw2> im trying to wake up my laptop's connection to the internet here
[07:28] <lordievader> rcw2: Cable or wifi?
[07:29] <Akishona> hi guys!
[07:29] <lordievader> o/
[07:30] <Gregor3000> settign new software channels fetching is complete - stuck at 9% so much for the smooth upgrade...
[07:30] <Akishona> i upgraded my kubu box to 14lts. now every time when i start my computer  have to manually set up my network connection
[07:31] <Akishona> i have a couple of network connections. instead of going on the right connection the network manager is selecting another one
[07:32] <Gregor3000> at least you managed to finish the upgrade :-) what is the network card? wireless, wired?
[07:32] <Gregor3000> aha wi-fi?
[07:32] <Akishona> did you run in similar problem?
[07:32] <Gregor3000> the "wrong one" might have stronger signal and is unlocked?
[07:32] <Gregor3000> no i am stuck on upgarde.
[07:34] <SuperFireAl> Is Kubuntu packed with the amazon spyware?
[07:34] <valorie> no
[07:35] <valorie> we don't have unity at all
[07:35] <SuperFireAl> Anything else that would use random bandwidth ?
[07:35] <Akishona> another problem is that when i'm starting my laptop(cold boot) the keyboard is not working and i need to attach an usb keyboard to be able to restart or work. any idea why this happens ?
[07:35] <valorie> SuperFireAl: I can't imagine what
[07:35] <Akishona> this is random
[07:36] <valorie> Gregor3000: how long as it been "stuck"?
[07:37] <Gregor3000> oh i reset it. it was completely stuck. had to take the batery out
[07:37] <valorie> one of my laptops seemed to be stuck for quite awhile, but it finished right along with the other box
[07:37] <valorie> oh my
[07:38] <Gregor3000> yeah
[07:38] <Gregor3000> what is the upgrade command? sudo do-release-upgrade -c?
[07:39] <valorie> -d
[07:39] <valorie> although you don't need that now
[07:39] <valorie> the d
[07:39] <valorie> since it is released
[07:40] <valorie> Gregor3000: please ensure that you have commented out all PPAs
[07:40] <SuperFireAl> Alright.  I might as well try the latest LTS from Mint Maya.  Mint wasn't running that fast even with XFCE
[07:40] <valorie> this seems to be causing problems this time around
[07:40] <rcw2> ive run through this installation outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash but firefox loads a flash app fine, while chrome requests flash just like before, even after system restart
[07:40] <rcw2> this is just after upgrading from 13.10 to 14.04
[07:41] <valorie> rcw2: that happened one day this last week for me in chromium, but th enext day updates fixed it
[07:41] <valorie> the next, geez
[07:41] <Gregor3000> it seems to be working now
[07:41] <valorie> great, Gregor3000
[07:44] <rcw2> valorie, hmm, im all up to date it seems
[07:49] <Gregor3000> recw2: isn't the flash plugin included in restricted extras package? or is this a different plugin? i have on 12.04 restricted extras and every time there is a flash update a script is run when you manually and separatelly install flash. so far it works on firefox and chromium.
[07:52] <valorie> yes, `kubuntu-restricted-extras`
[07:52] <valorie> you can choose to install this when you do a new install, and if you upgrade, it should be as well
[08:18] <SuperFireAl> "install third party while installing" will give all the flash, and so forth to play MP3s, etc?
[08:19] <valorie> yes
[08:20] <SuperFireAl> sweetness.
[08:21] <SuperFireAl> I wonder how long before Mint releases an edition based on ubuntu ?
[08:21] <SuperFireAl> I guess not something can be answered here though
[08:22] <valorie> no idea, unless there are some mint peeps in the chan
[08:23] <Gregor3000> usually it's about 2 or 3 months after ubuntu. but mostly it is when it's ready. i remember there was a KDE release not long ago taht wasn't ready at all and was never released.
[08:27] <SuperFireAl> Is there some universal way of changing the font size?
[08:27] <SuperFireAl> instead of every detail (Konsole, firefox, etc)
[08:29] <SuperFireAl> oh I found out
[08:29] <SuperFireAl> yay vision
[08:32] <Gregor3000> yeah i usually just use the zoom. crtl+mouse wheel forward
[08:34] <SuperFireAl> Wow it actually installed all the updates while installing
[08:34] <SuperFireAl> That's a first
[08:35] <valorie> I always do that
[08:35] <valorie> saves time
[08:36] <SuperFireAl> Usually when the version is old though there is still about 300 more MBs of stuff
[08:37] <valorie> which version are you installing?
[08:38] <SuperFireAl> 14.04
[08:38] <valorie> ah
[08:38] <valorie> well, that just came out a few days ago
[08:39] <valorie> no .1 yet
[08:39] <valorie> the devels haven't yet recovered from the release madness
[08:50] <xieyi> I updated kubuntu 14.04 the all sw seems response slowly. I noticed my hard drive is continuely being read or written. Is the slow response has something to do with it? Is it caused by akonadi_baloo_indexer?
[08:51] <xieyi> Is there anyway to stop the indexer?
[08:52] <xieyi> I know there was an option to disable the nepomuk indexer in the control panel
[08:53] <xieyi> but I cant find one for baloo
[08:53] <valorie> yes, it's baloo, and it will finish indexing soon
[08:53] <valorie> if you do alt+f2 and type baloo, you can get to the config
[08:54] <valorie> blacklist your home if you want
[08:54] <valorie> once it's done it's not noticeable
[08:55] <xieyi> It has been tortured my hard drive and me for whole day and has no sign of completing
[08:55] <xieyi> thanks for your advice. I am trying.
[08:55] <xieyi> :-)
[08:56] <valorie> some go directly to the config file and turn of indexing but I think that's extreme
[08:56] <valorie> if you have lots of mail though, it can be intense
[08:59] <xieyi> I hope there will be a configure tool in control panel soon. I actually dont know how to modify the config file. But I found a tool setting the directory being neglected by indexer
[09:00] <valorie> afaik the developer doesn't want users to notice it at all
[09:00] <valorie> but I think he'll have to dial down the intensity if he wants that to be true
[09:01] <valorie> it is supposed to Just Work
[09:01] <xieyi> yeah right. it affect my work.
[09:02] <xieyi> cant take it any more
[09:03] <valorie> Open $HOME/.kde4/share/config/baloofilerc and change the option 'Indexing-Enabled=true' to 'Indexing-Enabled=false'
[09:04] <valorie> I think it is .kde/share etc.
[09:06] <xieyi> oh I found it. it is at $HOME/.kde/share/config
[09:06] <xieyi> I will shut it down
[09:07] <lordievader> valorie: Yes on Ubuntu it is ~/.kde instead of ~/.kde4
[09:07] <xieyi> mine has already been set to false. weird
[09:08] <xieyi> so the intensive hard drive access must be caused by other underlying sw.
[09:09] <lordievader> xieyi: Try iotop, show you what is causing the io.
[09:09] <xieyi> Is there other possible cause for it ?
[09:13] <xieyi> I am installing it. it is a very slow process
[09:17] <xieyi> it is baloo_file_cleaner
[09:18] <xieyi> any idea about this tool?
[09:19] <andy123> its is the file indexer that lordievader was talking about.
[09:19] <andy123> you can go to system settings > desktop search
[09:20] <xieyi> I have disable baloo from its config file. i dont know what else I can do.
[09:20] <andy123> and add your HOME folder to the excluded folders
[09:20] <xieyi> yeah I have add my home to the blacklist
[09:20] <andy123> then reboot
[09:20] <xieyi> maybe I should reboot once.
[09:20] <andy123> yes
[09:20] <xieyi> ok thanks
[09:20] <xieyi> I am trying it
[09:20] <andy123> np
[09:22] <andy123> everybody seems to have problem with the baloo malware
[09:31] <xieyi> It works. baloo stop bothering me any more. thank you guys!
[09:31] <kde_user> hi
[09:31] <kde_user> i would like to know the steps to install unity in kubuntu
[09:32] <xieyi> why dont you install ubuntu instead
[09:32] <xieyi> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:32] <xieyi> only one step
[09:33] <kde_user> Hi xieyi.. i actually installed ubuntu first and then tried installed kubuntu using apg-get kubuntu-desktop
[09:33] <kde_user> but it kept throwing an error when i tried logging into kde
[09:33] <kde_user> so i'm thinking of installing kde first and then try unity
[09:34] <xieyi> what is the error
[09:34] <xieyi> I am just curious. I keep using kde and have not experienced such problem before
[09:34] <kde_user> just a min.. i'll lookup
[09:36] <kde_user> the error is : call to lnusertemp failed
[09:37] <kde_user> (temporary directories full?). check your installation
[09:38] <xieyi> It is out of my knowledge
[09:38] <xieyi> :-P
[09:38] <kde_user> :(
[09:38] <xieyi> hope some one else can give you some hints
[09:38] <N1K3a> Hello!
[09:39] <xieyi> hi
[09:39] <lordievader> kde_user: Are they?
[09:39] <kde_user> yes
[09:39] <lordievader> kde_user: Are the temporary directories full?
[09:39] <N1K3a> Ive just installed Kubuntu 14.04 ..its working nice.. However, I was looking for some kind of post installation tips??
[09:40] <xieyi> what kind?
[09:40] <xieyi> bumblebee?
[09:41] <PasNox> my java is not working inside chromium in trusty, any idea ?
[09:41] <Machtin> Hey guys. Happy easter for starters. I'm trying to get spdif pass through to work. More into detail: I'd like to watch a movie with DTS, my sound card can't decode it, but my speaker system can. I'd like to use that to get 5.1 over optical.
[09:41] <kde_user> lordievader: well, i don't know how to check exactly.
[09:41] <lordievader> kde_user: Check "df -h"
[09:41] <kde_user> can u help me out
[09:41] <lordievader> kde_user: Is there anything at 100%?
[09:42] <kde_user> no
[09:44] <lordievader> kde_user: Hmm, nothing nearly full either?
[09:45] <kde_user> yes.. max is 11% for /dev/sda8
[09:45] <dnivra> hello. I just upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10 and driver manager keeps showing up occasionally asking me to choose the driver to install(I have an nvidia card). I choose a driver and select okay but it doesn't seem to install anything. Could somone help out here?
[09:48] <dnivra> okay so I guess the option I chose had all the files installed :)
[09:49] <lordievader> kde_user: Meh, more than enough room. Don't know why it would be complaining about possible temp dirs being full.
[09:51] <kde_user> lordievader: i'll try re-installing the os
[09:51] <kde_user> thanks
[09:51] <kde_user> bye
[10:06] <Gregor3000> how to set up program to start on boot? e.g. - skype
[10:08] <lordievader> Gregor3000: System-settings -> Startup and Shutdown -> Autorun
[10:10] <Gregor3000> found it, thanks
[10:13] <lordievader> ;)
[10:17] <mihalych> Русскоговорящие есть?
[10:18] <lordievader> !ru | mihalych
[10:36] <rcw2> adobe says download libflashplayer.so and install it.  any reason this method shouldn't be followed?
[10:39] <lordievader> rcw2: Because Flash is in the repo?
[10:39] <lordievader> !info flashplugin-installer
[10:41] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[10:42] <VJM> hello...
[10:43] <BluesKaj> hi VJM
[10:44] <VJM> could i ask a newbie question about kubuntu 14.04?
[10:44] <BluesKaj> ask away, VJM
[10:45] <VJM> cool.... blank new installation... how do i change the desktop wallpaper????
[10:45] <VJM> there's no option in system settings | desktop theme
[10:46] <lordievader> VJM: Right click the desktop -> default desktop settings
[10:46] <VJM> oh.... there!
[10:46] <VJM> thanks lordievader
[10:46] <BluesKaj> VJM, right click on the desktop, choose default desktop settings , then click on the :
[10:47] <VJM> not immediately obvious
[10:47] <VJM> thanks Blueskaj
[10:47] <BluesKaj> open
[10:48] <BluesKaj> then navigate to your folder that contains whatever images you want
[10:49] <VJM> got it... thanks very much BluesKaj
[10:49] <BluesKaj> VJM, np :)
[10:51] <BluesKaj> VJM, you can have a different image for each virtual desktop as well
[10:52] <lordievader> To where does dpkg/apt unpack the contents of deb packages?
[10:53] <user__> i see 'flashplugin-installer is already the newest version.' but its not working in chromium/kubuntu 14.04.  any suggestions?  os is up to date
[10:54] <lordievader> user__: Chromium is in the process of going over to a new api system, I figure flash is still broken upstream.
[10:54] <lordievader> user__: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY2NTg
[10:56] <BluesKaj> user__, install the pepperflash-plugin
[10:57] <rcw2> .
[10:59] <rcw2> BluesKaj, pepperflashplugin-nonfree package already installed
[10:59] <rcw2> already the newest
[11:03] <BluesKaj> rcw2, pepperflashplugin-nonfree ?
[11:05] <rcw2> BluesKaj, yes
[11:26] <nescius> hello, do you know url for the repository for kde packages for 14.04?
[11:26] <nescius> i cannot find it in the upgrade guide
[11:26] <lordievader> nescius: Do you mean the backports?
[11:27] <nescius> lordievader: http://paste.kde.org/p5bctolkn
[11:28] <BluesKaj> nescius, don't change the sources to upgrade, just run sudo do-release-upgrade, but make sure you update and upgrade 13.10 first
[11:29] <nescius> i am
[11:29] <nescius> both 13.10 and fully updated
[11:29] <lordievader> nescius: What command brought you that output?
[11:30] <nescius> I have issues with updating 4.11.5 to 4.12 i guess
[11:30] <nescius> lordievader: do-release-upgrade.. (its actually grep Broken /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log )
[11:30] <lordievader> Did you have the backports enabled in Saucy?
[11:32] <BluesKaj> nescius, then run dist-upgrade to get the latest kde release
[11:32] <nescius> BluesKaj: dist-upgrade: command not found
[11:32] <lordievader> nescius: He means apt-get dist-upgrade ;)
[11:33] <BluesKaj> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:40] <nescius> well, thanks for help, maybe it will work afterwards
[11:41] <nescius> right, it wont
[11:41] <nescius> as i said, there are no KDE packages in the repositories
[11:41] <nescius> no new ones at least
[11:42] <nescius> 'newer' than  4.11.5
[11:42] <nescius> dist-upgrade will update everything and simply remove KDE
[11:43] <nescius> which is not actually what i wanted
[11:43] <lordievader> !info kdelibs-bin saucy
[11:44] <lordievader> Hmm, that is the default for Saucy. I wonder why it doesn't want to upgrade to Trusty...
[11:44] <nescius> !info kdelibs-bin trusty
[11:45] <nescius> lordievader: i am trying to find out for couple of days..
[11:45] <nescius> .. i forgot to mention that i am using japanese mirror
[11:45] <nescius> maybe that is the problem
[11:46] <nescius> what is best mirror to try?
[11:46] <lordievader> nescius: It could be behind. Try changing the mirror.
[11:47] <BluesKaj> uk or us mirrors
[11:47] <BluesKaj> nescius,^
[11:48] <nescius> trying it again with bytemark as a mirror
[11:50] <rcw2> BluesKaj, any suggestions on my last question?
[11:53] <dd> To all having sound issues since upgrade to 14.04: http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/ - SECTION 3
[11:55] <BluesKaj> rcw2, could you post a url where flash isn't working
[11:55] <rcw2> BluesKaj, grooveshark.com
[11:58] <BluesKaj> rcw2, that's a music site, flash isn't playing any video there, try youtube to make sure
[12:01] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Grooveshark uses a lot of flash IIRC.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> dd, that's an ubuntu tutorial the graphics depicted don't fit kubuntu/kde.
[12:03] <BluesKaj> most websites do use flash. yes , but as avideo player i don't see any video on grooveshark. lordievader
[12:03] <dd> BluesKaj, I tried the two commands in section 3 yesterday, worked fine for me :-) But I don't know much about sound systems (ALSA, PulseAudio what the.... :-S)
[12:03] <nescius> i think there is a repository issue.. it does not upgrade even from bytemark mirror, i removed all repositories and kept the ones from do-release-upgrade, but still no KDE packages
[12:05] <lordievader> BluesKaj: Wasn't rcw2 problem a non working flash plugin?
[12:05] <rcw2> BluesKaj, youtube works, hm
[12:05] <lordievader> Hehe. How odd.
[12:05] <BluesKaj> nescius, it does take a while to upgrade via the internet
[12:05] <rcw2> yeah
[12:06] <lordievader> A selective flash plugin ;)
[12:06] <BluesKaj> rcw2, does grooveshark play video and audio or ?
[12:10] <BluesKaj> rcw2, FF dpesn't play video on grooveshark, perhaps your audio is buggy ?
[12:10] <rcw2> after cache cleared and no extensions, still: 'Adobe Flash Player is Required...' [Install Plug-in?], but i [x] out that prompt and I Grooveshark blocks itself with a popup.  I can't tell if it *could* do one or the other
[12:11] <rcw2> BluesKaj, FF is fine
[12:11] <rcw2> just chromium
[12:11] <lordievader> rcw2: FWIW, grooveshark has a html5 page.
[12:12] <BluesKaj> odd, chromium is fine here
[12:12] <rcw2> lordievader, yeah i was just reminded of that.  i might switch even after getting flash working
[12:12] <rcw2> might be faster
[12:13] <rcw2> BluesKaj, yeah, and someone else said chromium had this or a similar issue, but it was resolved later after updating the OS, but mine is up to date and still has this issue
[12:14] <rcw2> same OS i think they said
[12:16] <BluesKaj> rcw2, have you updated and upgraded or was chromium installed from a ppa wheile you were on 13.10?
[12:17] <rcw2> BluesKaj, fully updated 13.10, then upgraded to 14.04, and now fully updated in 14.04
[12:17] <rcw2> chromium was in 13.01
[12:17] <rcw2> 13.10*
[12:17] <rcw2> installed from a ppa?
[12:17] <BluesKaj> and what about chromium , how was installed originally?
[12:18] <rcw2> BluesKaj, hm, can i determine that from some history ?
[12:19] <rcw2> been a while
[12:21] <BluesKaj> rcw2, i think flash is working where it's supposed to work ...as far as I can see grooveshark is an audio channel not a video channel
[12:21] <BluesKaj> BBL
[12:33] <VanKush> hello everyone
[12:34] <VanKush> please can anyone give a hint to me why i cannot successfully go through Kubuntu 1404 usb install?
[12:35] <andy123> describe the problem
[12:35] <andy123> does the installer hang?
[12:36] <VanKush> checked the disk, chcecked the checksum of the image, placed it wih KDE usb creator, booted, and seem to get hang whatever I try to do - "try without insalling", configuring wifi in ubiquity, even preboot file sum chceck
[12:37] <VanKush> ATM i connected ethernet and it failed to open the step where one sets up partitions
[12:38] <VanKush> but it does fatally hang if i choose to try live instead of installing
[12:38] <andy123> so, you press "Next >" in the installer and it hangs?
[12:39] <andy123> before you can see the partitions?
[12:39] <VanKush> cursor changes to waiting and nothing happens
[12:40] <VanKush> i can click exit or edit wm settings if i wish, but the main window's content stops changing
[12:41] <VanKush> yes, before i see any controls to chose guided partitioning or set it up in any way
[12:42] <VanKush> hello BluesKaj
[12:42] <andy123> did you try installing without enabling "download updates"?
[12:43] <BluesKaj> hi VanKush
[12:43] <VanKush> andy123: will try immediately. still it is strange to my that i cannot >try live, it always worked before
[12:44] <andy123> I'm afraid I dont know where your problem is.
[12:46] <VanKush> the B2 and  some recent dailys behaved the same btw
[12:50] <VanKush> is here anyone who might have a hint for me?
[12:50] <lordievader> VanKush: Does it hang before the disk setup step?
[12:51] <VanKush> it hangs in many situations, but it always hangs before that step too
[12:52] <VanKush> haven' got farther yet
[12:53] <nescius> i am back with my upgrade issue..
[12:53] <nescius> i am not a great fan of apt system, it is very messy...
[12:53] <VanKush> it also hangs when i click >try live, too
[12:54] <lordievader> VanKush: When it hangs can you go to a tty?
[12:54] <nescius> one would thought that http://jp.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/ should contain at least one entry from 2014.. or 2013
[12:54] <VanKush> negative
[12:54] <lordievader> nescius: Depends on how sync the mirror is.
[12:55] <lordievader> VanKush: Hmm sounds like kernel panics or something.
[12:55] <nescius> same goes for the default http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdepim/
[12:55] <nescius> lordievader:  ^
[12:56] <VanKush> lordievader: 13.10 installer does work well as have all other versions since karmic
[12:57] <VanKush> i've read some lines about encrypted swap, will remove it and come back
[12:57] <lordievader> nescius: Lookup libkdecore5 that should be updated.
[12:58] <nescius> lordievader: yes, there are some updated
[12:58] <nescius> i am getting very angry with kubuntu
[12:59] <lordievader> ?
[13:05] <VanKush> lordievader: i ditched the encrypted swap partition and tried over... switching to tty hags, as does ubiquity on the same step
[13:07] <lordievader> VanKush: You can go the Ubuntu Server -> Kubuntu route. Or if you trust your Linux skills, debootstrap Trusty.
[13:09] <VanKush> I'm running 13.04 on that book and i don't really trust myself debootstrapping
[13:10] <VanKush> sigh, never thought i would need to distrust kubuntu again
[13:11] <VanKush> it's been my productive OS since 2007
[13:11] <lordievader> VanKush: That's why I also gave the Ubu server route. That is quite easy.
[13:12] <VanKush> where do i get the images
[13:12] <VanKush> ...? please :)
[13:13] <lordievader> VanKush: http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[13:13] <VanKush> and then what, install kubuntu desktop?
[13:15] <lordievader> VanKush: Yes, install Ubuntu Server. And after the reboot install the package kubuntu-desktop.
[13:19] <VanKush> i hope this ain't gonn hurt, i would like to preserve the win7 partition i've been dualbooting
[13:21] <BluesKaj> VanKush, not if you use a the manual partitioning option then you can choose the right partition for Kubuntu
[13:21] <BluesKaj> in the kubuntu installer that is
[13:22] <lordievader> VanKush: Keep paying attention and be sure to have a backup.
[13:23] <itotoi> i have a problem with my kubuntu-desktop package, so i've removed it, and now i'm trying to reinstall it but i'm getting "Depends: kde-windows-manager kde-workspace but it is not going to be installed
[13:24] <BluesKaj> itotoi, install kde-workspace
[13:26] <itotoi> BluesKaj: oh i think it's working now, i had to remove libegl1-mesa
[13:26] <BluesKaj> BB in 30 mins
[13:26] <itotoi> well let's see i'll try
[13:39] <VanKush> in the interim i tried ubuntu 1404 image, worked flawlessly :\
[13:39] <VanKush> gonna do the server stuff then
[13:40] <VanKush> please btw, i cannot have LVM and dualboot to ntfs/win7 at the same time, can I?
[13:41] <VanKush> lordievader: please, If i go the server route, will i get xorg or myr then?
[13:50] <lordievader> VanKush: You will have Xorg, and lvm + ntfs is possible, as long as the windows partitions are not on the lvm.
[13:52] <VanKush> can I set up LVM on a single logial partition while other partitions on the disc have been already created?
[13:52] <VanKush> i mean, from the installer directly
[13:52] <BluesKaj> VanKush, mir isn't availble on kubuntu
[13:56] <lordievader> VanKush: Hmm, I'm not sure if the Ubuntu Server text installer comes with the necessary tools to set up lvm.
[14:05] <VanKush> guys please
[14:07] <VanKush> imagine my SDA split into four primary partitions (sda1 some oem crap, sda2 windows, sda3 empty, sda4 some more windows oem crap)
[14:07] <VanKush> how can I set up LVM on the sda3 primary partition so that i do not hurt other partitions, please?
[14:08] <VanKush> inside it i'm gonna need a root partition, a /boot, a swap and another encrypted root for other os
[14:10] <lordievader> VanKush: Split sda3 in /boot and a phyisical volume.
[14:13] <VanKush> (it seems that i ran out of logical volumes 4 of which i can have, they are all on a single physical drive)
[14:13] <VanKush> out of primary volumes i mean
[14:14] <VanKush> lordievader:  /boot must not be inside lvm?
[14:15] <lordievader> VanKush: It can be, but it is much easier to not put it in. Grub doesn't like lvm that much.
[14:16] <VanKush> i see that now.. how do I turn the remaining logical volume into a LVM container?
[14:17] <lordievader> VanKush: What do you mean?
[14:19] <VanKush> i have one physical drive with 3 primary partitions i must not touch, and one primary partition where I would like to set up logical volume management and encryption for at least two OSes
[14:19] <VanKush> before I only used LVM+luks on whole disks so I do not know how to proceed
[14:20] <lordievader> VanKush: Never set up a luks volume for a rootfs, not sure if you want to do that?
[14:21] <captain_haddock> I have 3 Kubuntu installs. What's the most bandwidth effective way to upgrade all three to 14.04?
[14:21] <captain_haddock> I have the latest ISO too, FYI
[14:22] <captain_haddock> I used to accomplish upgrades using the alternate CD which appears to have gone missing :/
[14:22] <VanKush> lordievader: i dont insist on luks this time, just wanted to encrypt the other root with dmcrypt... kubuntu root should remain unencrypted
[14:24] <VanKush> lordievader: what i don't know is how to use the only available primary partition to set up logical volume management for kubuntu and other/encrypted OS sharing their /boot partition
[14:25] <VanKush> i dont understand which partitions will be managed by LVM by looking at the installer :(
[14:25] <lmie> ever since i've installed kubuntu 14.04, i've had a lot of freezes
[14:26] <lordievader> VanKush: Don't think pvcreate cares whether the partition is primary or logical.
[14:26] <lordievader> VanKush: I'd setup the lvm myself if I where you, I don't like how the installer does the setup.
[14:58] <VanKush> what does Kubuntu active do?
[15:08] <rcw2> how much time does kde developer in 14.04 take to learn
[15:37] <lts_> 4.13 is a mazing
[16:06] <rvdv> when trying to install drupal 7.27 on a fresh kubuntu install i can not get past the page where the DB is being filled ... not site config page shows up
[16:07] <rvdv> in phpmyadmin it shows the DB is filled
[16:07] <Shaan7> rvdv: check /var/log/apache2/error.log for any php errors
[16:08] <rvdv> Shaan7: this error log file shows no info releated to the drupal install
[16:09] <Shaan7> rvdv: hmm and what happens if you try to browse to the drupal site manually? http://localhost/drupal or whatever
[16:11] <VanKush> lordievader: thank you, it's up now
[16:11] <rvdv> Shaan7: it shows a default drupal page with only showing "Page Not Found"  ... The requested page "/" could not be found. ... as there is no user setup being done I can not log in
[16:12] <lordievader> \o/
[16:12] <VanKush> kinda dislike the greeter though
[16:12] <Shaan7> rvdv: hmm, well without anything in error.log, I can't really think how to proceed :|
[16:13] <rvdv> setting up a user through phpmyadmin is kind of a work around i guess ... but this is clearly not as how it should work
[16:13] <lordievader> VanKush: What greeter? Lightdm?
[16:13]  * VanKush misses kdm
[16:13] <VanKush> yes that one
[16:14] <captain_haddock> @rvdv Try #drupal
[16:15] <rvdv> captain_haddock: Not sure if it's a drupal problem as I can get it work in Debian and OpenSUSE ... Strangely I can not find any info on google either
[16:17] <captain_haddock> rvdv: They'll probably know best how to figure out what's going wrong
[16:17] <rvdv> OK
[16:17] <captain_haddock> But yes, check the logs, both Drupal and httpd
[16:17] <rvdv> thanks
[16:17] <captain_haddock> :)
[16:18] <VanKush> lordievader: any clue how to get kubuntu greeter theme back?
[16:18] <lordievader> VanKush: Don't think kdm will work.
[16:18] <rcw2> yay 14.04 now applies the icon instantly to the program after install, without restarting the os
[16:20] <VanKush> lordievader: yea i got that, i just wish for ldm to get the kubuntu flavour's skin/touch
[16:20] <VanKush> for consistency sake :)
[16:22] <VanKush> ah and there is a more pushing issue, how do I add/set default keyboard layout for the greeter?
[16:35] <rick__> clear
[16:45] <MRT1> How to I access the boot options on the LIVE CD
[16:51] <VanKush> MRT1 you hit spacebar when the splash appears
[17:13] <m2k1981> is there any way to download kubuntu 14.04 lts via torrent
[17:15] <jacky> m2k1981: strongly recommended using the Web for searching
[17:15] <rocco> Hi
[17:15] <jacky> m2k1981:  http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ has rsync and torrent options
[17:15] <jacky> rsync's a bit lighter since it's unidirectional (torrents tend to be bidirectional)
[17:16] <jacky> hello rocco
[17:17] <rocco> whats up
[17:18] <RaymondTracer_> Hello
[17:18] <rocco> hey
[17:19] <RaymondTracer_> Does anyone know how to find out what programs are running in the system tray?
[17:19] <RaymondTracer_> I have some mysterious program running that tells me that "No backlight is detected on my system"
[17:19] <RaymondTracer_> *were found on my system"
[17:20] <rocco> startup programs?
[17:20] <RaymondTracer_> Good idea..
[17:20] <rocco> xD
[17:22] <RaymondTracer_> I'm not really finding anything
[17:23] <rocco> hmm
[17:24] <rocco> maybe htop..
[17:27] <RaymondTracer_> I'm not really finding anything unusual
[17:28] <rocco> lets see..
[17:28] <rocco> maybe a bug RaymondTracer_
[17:29] <rocco> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1900024
[17:29] <RaymondTracer_> I
[17:29] <RaymondTracer_> I'm on a desktop, I was trying to find a way to change my screen brightness with software
[17:29] <rocco> kubuntu 14.04??
[17:30] <RaymondTracer_> Yep
[17:30] <rocco> check that link,,
[17:30] <BluesKaj> RaymondTracer_, check power management in system tray settings
[17:30] <rocco> maybe helps you out
[17:30] <BluesKaj> or system settings as well
[17:32] <melodie> hi
[17:32] <rocco> hi melodie
[17:33] <melodie> I am puzzled, because installing a language pack in Trusty, for a kdepim suite, triggers this:
[17:33] <melodie> http://pastebin.fr/33469
[17:33] <melodie> hi rocco
[17:33] <melodie> I will try to de activate the "recommands" to see what it does
[17:33] <rocco> whats up
[17:33] <rocco> oh ,ok
[17:34] <RaymondTracer_> Well I couldnt find anything in power management
[17:34] <melodie> APT::Install-Recommends "false";
[17:34] <RaymondTracer_> The link didnt help
[17:34] <melodie> I already have it. :-(
[17:35] <rocco> you cgeck power management RaymondTracer_?
[17:35] <rocco> check*
[17:35] <rocco> ok
[17:35] <RaymondTracer_> Yeah
[17:35] <rocco> you are on desktop ....
[17:35] <RaymondTracer_> This monitor doesnt actually have a controllable backlight
[17:36] <RaymondTracer_> Yeah, i'm  on a desktop
[17:36] <RaymondTracer_> So any laptop related stuff wouldnt really work
[17:37] <rocco> http://askubuntu.com/questions/218953/can-i-control-brightness-on-second-monitor
[17:37] <BluesKaj> RaymondTracer_, there'a an app called xbacklight availble in the repos, check the package manager/muon discover for it.
[17:38] <RaymondTracer_> Nope, doesnt appear to be installed
[17:38] <RaymondTracer_> I check Muon for backlight related applications but I couldnt find anything isntalled
[17:38] <lordievader> rocco: What kind of screen is it? Usually the brightness of desktop screens cannot be controlled through sofware.
[17:39] <RaymondTracer_> Yeah, I thought there would be a program that could "emulator" the controlling of brightness
[17:39] <RaymondTracer_> emulate*
[17:39] <rocco> RaymondTracer_,  is a crt?
[17:40] <lordievader> RaymondTracer_: I thought that backlightcontrol was going through the kernel to an acpi driver.
[17:40] <RaymondTracer_> I know I might've installed something but the uninstalation musnt of removed everything
[17:40] <RaymondTracer_> rocco: No, its an LED monitor
[17:40] <rocco> LED lordievader
[17:41] <BluesKaj> RaymondTracer , I have the power management battery icon in the system tray that has a brightness control popup
[17:42] <RaymondTracer_> I'm not on a laptop though
[17:42] <RaymondTracer_> I was trying brightness control programs but they all turned out to be for laptop backlights
[17:42] <RaymondTracer_> I think one of them didnt fully uninstall
[17:42] <lordievader> Hmm, it might be different for LED screens, but I don't think it will work.
[17:42] <RaymondTracer_> I just want to try and find it
[17:42] <BluesKaj> hehe, no kidding :)
[17:42] <RaymondTracer_> It is
[17:43] <RaymondTracer_> :p
[17:52] <RaymondTracer_> Oh well, thanks for trying to help, i'll just deal with it being there
[17:52] <RaymondTracer_> Its not really effecting anything, just taking up a space in my system tray
[17:54] <RaymondTracer_> I found out what its called
[17:54] <RaymondTracer_> Its called "indicator-brightness"
[17:55] <RaymondTracer_> I guess i'll have to find a way to get rid of that and it should be fine
[18:02] <elnur> Hey. Which DM is used in 14.04? Previously it was LightDM. What is being used now?
[18:02] <RaymondTracer_> Welp, i'm off, thanks again for trying to help
[18:08] <Shaan7> shadeslayer: Riddell: is there a reason kubuntu's phonon (or phononexperimental) package doesn't build the phonon declarative plugins?
[18:09] <lordievader> elnur: Lightdm is still used.
[18:11] <elnur> lordievader, I've found the new location of lightdm.conf. But thanks. :)
[18:14] <captain_haddock> I have a Kubuntu install which does not appear to support an old USB scanner that I have. I've downloaded its old Windows drivers (which do not work on x64 windows systems either). Can I somehow get it working on Linux?
[18:14] <captain_haddock> Strike that
[18:15] <captain_haddock> I have 3 Kubuntu installs. What's the most bandwidth effective way to upgrade all three to 14.04? I have the latest ISO, FYI.
[18:15] <captain_haddock> This ^^
[18:15] <captain_haddock> No alternate CDs any more I hear
[18:18] <melodie> captain_haddock
[18:18] <melodie> can you type is some commands when you plugin that scanner? such as "usb-devices" and put the output to a pastebin?
[18:20] <melodie> captain_haddock ping me when you are ready to try?
[18:35] <melodie> captain_haddock if usb-devices sees your usb scanner then maybe we can make it work, sometimes it's just a driver which is not loaded, and has to be loaded manually and added to the modules file under /etc
[18:40] <alket> how to make kubuntu when it boots not to open last opened applications, i hope it makes sense, thanks
[18:43] <captain_haddock> alket: System settings, startup & shutdown, Session Management
[18:44] <alket> captain_haddock: thanks
[18:44] <captain_haddock> melodie: I'm ready :) Thanks
[18:44] <Quintasan> anyone here got a thinkpad?
[18:45] <captain_haddock> melodie: It *is* detected in usb-devices!
[18:47] <captain_haddock> melodie: http://paste.kde.org/pxht4uj3u
[18:51] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: I have a Lenovo something in the other room which might qualify.
[18:51] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: Is it running 14.04?
[18:52] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: Nope. It's running Windows atm. It was running 12.04 LTS until this morning.
[18:52] <Quintasan> Hrr
[18:52] <captain_haddock> (trying to get scanner accessible)
[18:52] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: Did it suspend on lid closure?
[18:52] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: yep
[18:53] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: Can you tell me if it work OUT OF BOX if you happen to install 14.04?
[18:53] <Quintasan> works*
[18:53] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: I'll try, sure
[18:55] <melodie> captain_haddock I look
[18:55] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: But I do remember other quirks. The shutdown/logout buttons sometimes stopped working. Google informed me that this was due to issues with the notification system not being able to play ogg files during the alerts.
[18:55] <captain_haddock> That didn't really fix it for me... but it might help.
[18:55] <captain_haddock> melodie: cheers
[18:55] <melodie> captain_haddock Driver=(none) || not good
[18:55] <melodie> what brand and model is it?
[18:55] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: The problem is that it does no suspend on battery when the lid is closed by default
[18:56] <captain_haddock> melodie: Umax Astra 5600 (pretty old!)
[18:56] <Quintasan> And then when I set it up in power management maually it does suspend
[18:56] <Quintasan> But it doesn't work correctly
[18:56] <melodie> captain_haddock do you know if it needs a firmware?
[18:56] <captain_haddock> melodie: I don't. Sorry
[18:57] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: Does it do so in other OSes/versions?
[18:58] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: It works in Windows and I'm ALMOST sure it did work in 12.04 out of box
[18:58] <captain_haddock> I have had to bang the lid close in some laptops to get the action detected.
[18:58] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: The keyword here is ALMOST :P
[18:58] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: :)
[18:59] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: Perhaps you can create a new user account to test this. It might mimic "out of the box" to some extent.
[18:59] <captain_haddock> melodie: I have the windows drivers. I've looked on xsane to no avail
[19:00] <melodie> captain_haddock do you have a driver for Windows for this usb scanner, that you could install with WINE and perhaps from there install the INF file with ndiswrapper?
[19:00] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: I somehow forced it to suspend via Power Management but it does not change the fact that it does not work as expected
[19:00] <Quintasan> Damn it.
[19:01] <captain_haddock> melodie: I do have a .exe file that supposedly has the drivers. Let me try installing it with WINE. I will need your assistance with the ndiswrapper as that's Greek to me (and I don't speak Greek :D)
[19:02] <melodie> captain_haddock  ndiswrapper needs some tools and there are docs in the Ubuntu forums for that, I'll try to find one for you
[19:03] <captain_haddock> melodie: Thank you!
[19:03] <captain_haddock> Last release of xsane was in 2010 :(
[19:04] <melodie> captain_haddock well, lately I tried reinstalling a driver from windows for a pcmcia wifi card, but it failed sadly
[19:04] <melodie> so I gave up on that card
[19:05] <Quintasan> captain_haddock: Hah, thanks, on a new user suspend works correctly but it does not work on my user accoun
[19:05] <melodie> captain_haddock your system is Trusty, right?
[19:05] <Quintasan> I seriously wonder what's going wrong there.
[19:11] <melodie> Quintasan what groups are your user in?
[19:11] <melodie> type "id" in the terminal, as simple user
[19:12] <melodie> do you see "power" ?
[19:12] <melodie> does the group power exist in /etc/group ?
[19:16] <captain_haddock> melodie: Yep, it is. Fresh install.
[19:16] <captain_haddock> Quintasan: :) Perhaps you can compare configurations.
[19:17] <captain_haddock> melodie: I'm also trying to install XP 32 in a VM simultaneously. XP64 (on another laptop) did not help with the drivers :(
[19:32] <oeizo> i upgraded to 14.04 but now to connect to my wifi network without putting my password each time; it looks like kwallet isn't working anymore
[19:32] <melodie> captain_haddock I understand that this could be helpful, if you can get it to connect to the USB ports of the host
[19:33] <melodie> captain_haddock my concern this week is different, it is about Mail clients and Addressbooks
[19:34] <melodie> so here I talk about Kmail and Kaddressbook specifically, and also Kontacts of course (I am on the #kontact chan that valorie told me about yesterday, and where I got lots of help today)
[19:37] <captain_haddock> melodie: Yep. I apparently need some extension pack or some such.
[19:37] <captain_haddock> I was not a fan of Kmail when I tried it a few years ago.
[19:38] <captain_haddock> oeizo: FWIW, you can turn off KWallet.
[19:38] <oeizo> captain_haddock: if i turn it off, how will my wifi passwords be saved?
[19:39] <captain_haddock> oeizo: It won't be saved securely. But it'll be saved in plain text.
[19:39] <oeizo> it's ok :) just a wifi password
[19:39] <captain_haddock> (i.e., it's a security risk)
[19:39] <captain_haddock> oeizo:  :)
[19:42] <oeizo> captain_haddock: i disabled it, then went in the settings of the wifi network and put my password, but then if i close and open again, the password isn't here anymore
[19:43] <captain_haddock> oeizo: Try to see what happens after you log out / reboot and log back in.
[19:43] <oeizo> ok brb
[19:44] <melodie> oeizo I have been told today that the kwalletmanager can be opened without a password, then you can ask it to keep the passwords, but won't be prompted to enter your password in
[19:44] <melodie> if this can help
[19:45] <melodie> this is the kind of thing which I have been testing all week long, with Kdepim and with Evolution side by side, on several machines, and in virtualbox machines too
[19:45] <melodie> this is a very intensive testing :D
[19:49] <ezoo> i disconnected and reconnected but the networkmanager widget still doesn't remember password
[19:50] <ezoo> i saw someone message me right before i disconnected but didn't get the time to read sorry
[19:56] <melodie> ezoo
 oeizo I have been told today that the kwalletmanager can be opened without a password, then you can ask it to keep the passwords, but won't be prompted to enter your password in
 if this can help
[19:56] <melodie> ezoo is that what you were just asking?
[19:57] <ezoo> melodie: not sure what is not working, but my problem is that networkmanager cannot remember the password of the wifi networks/vpns (i tried enabling or disabled kwalletmanager)
[20:02] <melodie> ezoo I have seen that before, I think you may have something not well configured in the networkmanager
[20:03] <melodie> I have to fire mine to check if I remember what it was
[20:04] <melodie> ezoo open your network manager > modify configuratin > tab wireless
[20:05] <melodie> check then in the wireless tab, if yyou have the Mac address of the peripheral showing, with the name of the interphase in parenthesis
[20:05] <melodie> you must also see the SSID in the filed, and the mode Infrastructure
[20:05] <melodie> then in the tab Security
[20:06] <melodie> you must check that you are indeed using the right type of security, and in the bottom left that it is available for all users.
[20:06] <melodie> ezoo to be sure of the type of security you may have to check with the interface of your box in front of you as well.
[20:07] <melodie> ezoo hope that helps you
[20:08] <ezoo> melodie: this is what i have in wireless security http://wstaw.org/m/2014/04/20/plasma-desktopPb2937.png (this is where i enter my password)
[20:16] <melodie> ezoo this is where you must put your password
[20:17] <melodie> have you also checked the tab "General" ?
[20:23] <ezoo> melodie: when i put it and reopen this window, the password isn't there anymore; in General i have tried to check the "for all users" checkbox, but then i cannot validate: http://i.imgur.com/jj4CtrS.png
[20:26] <melodie> ezoo what do you have in the button "Advanced" from this screenshot?
[20:26] <melodie> and what do you have in the tab "Wireless" ?
[20:27] <somekool> what would be the easiest way to do kde related packages upgrades separately, and non-kde related packages upgrades after ?
[20:28] <ezoo> melodie: in advanced, i have an allowed user which is me, and another user which is in the "available" list, 'sambo'
[20:28] <ezoo> melodie: in wireless, i have the ssid, and mode: infrastructure and other things
[20:29] <melodie> ezoo what if you do a "sudo ifconfig down eth0" when you connect in wifi mode?
[20:34] <ezoo> melodie: you mean right now? eth0: Unknown host
[20:50] <average_guy> How do I get twitter updates frm choqok and quassel channel msgs in desktop notifications in 14.04 kubuntu?  Is there not an easy way to get pop-ups?
[20:51] <average_guy> I am completely new to KDE
[20:55] <melodie> ezoo if you don't have eth0 it can be something else, eth1 or eth2 : do "sudo ifconfig -a " and look what you have
[20:55] <ezoo> melodie: i do have eth0 when doing just ifconfig
[20:56] <ezoo> (but no ethernet cable plugged in)
[20:56] <TheFakeazneD525> average_guy: probably an option in settings > notifications. Uses system tray for notifications
[20:59] <melodie> ezoo no matter the cable, sometimes you have better time putting the eth0 down
[20:59] <melodie> sudo ifconfig eth0 down
[21:00] <ezoo> melodie: oh this worked, oh it was swapped
[21:00] <ezoo> melodie: networkmanager still forgets about the password :(
[21:09] <melodie> ezoo is that Kubuntu 14.04 ?
[21:09] <ezoo> melodie: yes i've just upgraded
[21:10] <melodie> from which version have you upgraded?
[21:10] <ezoo> 13.10
[21:10] <melodie> do you always use wifi or sometimes ethernet too with this machine?
[21:11] <ezoo> sometimes ethernet
[21:11] <melodie> have you checked what I told you a moment ago, in the router?
[21:11] <melodie> in the user interface of the box, in your web browser?
[21:11] <ezoo> i must have missed it
[21:12] <melodie> you should check the type of security which is configured in the box, if it is a mismatch with the configuration in your network manager that can be a source of issue
[21:13] <ezoo> oh yes that, no yes it is indeed WPA personal
[21:13] <ezoo> (i don't remember if i've said it, but i can connect normally)
[21:15] <melodie> ezoo please check
[21:16] <melodie> you can connect but you get prompted again and again and that could be the source (happened to me)
[21:16] <ezoo> i've checked on the router page on my browser
[21:16] <melodie> ok
[21:16] <ezoo> (unrelated, what happened kubuntu-low-fat-settings package)
[21:17] <ezoo> melodie: this is what it says: http://i.imgur.com/g3QdmWN.png (maybe i missed something)
[21:17] <melodie> I don't know what means what you just said
[21:17] <ezoo> (it's a package which disables a bunch of service, to make kubuntu faster)
[21:17] <melodie> ezoo lol!
[21:17] <melodie> can we talk privately? We talk the same language :D
[21:18] <melodie> et en plus j'ai le même FAI
[21:19] <melodie> ezoo unless you come to #kde-fr
[21:46] <bprompt> !fr | melodie
[21:48] <melodie> bprompt you are late
[21:49]  * bprompt sets mode +straggler $self
[22:34] <melodie> good night
[23:04] <RiotingPacifist> loginctl list-sessions shows no active sesions, is this normal?
[23:25] <Rocco__> o/