[00:44] Why this dont work with lubuntu 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/ and always work with 13.10, then someone here sugested me another thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/ but that dont work too. Why? Please give me a solution! [00:44] You quit last night before I could offer a suggestion: Reboot? [00:45] I tryed to find you , but i could nt .. i dont know why [00:46] the thing you told me dont worked too. as you can see... [00:46] SonnikkuAmerica , let me show you a picture screen.... [00:47] sorry, in this usb persistent i dont have the app to do it. [00:50] Get scrot or something? [00:50] !info scrot [00:50] scrot (source: scrot): command line screen capture utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.8-13 (trusty), package size 15 kB, installed size 72 kB [00:50] sudo apt-get install scrot ? [00:50] Yeah [00:51] Then type "scrot" in another terminal window and find the picture in your home folder [00:51] ok give me a second [00:53] SonikkuAmerica http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288060/ [00:53] somthing is wrong [00:54] UrielVigilant: [ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/dpkg/lock && sudo apt-get update ] [00:54] and then try again [00:54] SonikkuAmerica: Err, may want to make sure nothing is locking it for a reason?(!!) [00:54] ok [00:55] Unit193: Fair enough. [00:55] UrielVigilant: First check to see if you have another package manager open though [00:56] sudo lsof /var/lib/dpkg/lock [00:57] SonnikkuAmerica problems again http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288087/ [00:57] ianorlin: FWIW, I reinstalled lubuntu on their machine from scratch today, and it boots now with no issue. [00:58] UrielVigilant: You should have listened to Unit193 [00:58] he was right [00:58] Now, [ sudo lsof /var/lib/apt/lists/lock ] [01:01] SonikkuAmerica problems again http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288122/ [01:02] Unit193: See the pastebin above, why is this? [01:02] SonikkuAmerica: Those are warnings, you can ignore them. He's on a live system. [01:03] Oh. [01:03] So they mean nothing to us. [01:04] Yes live persistent until i solve how to put my bcm 4311 on [01:04] UrielVigilant: Did we make sure is was a 4311? [ lspci -vnn | grep 14e4 ] [01:07] Pardon the interruption. [01:07] SonikkuAmerica iam sure [01:08] Well, according to lsof your other lock file is free to remove as well: [ sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/lock && sudo apt-get update ] [01:08] bcm 4311 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288144/ [01:09] ok i did it sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/lock && sudo apt-get update now then ? [01:09] No problems occurred? [01:09] no lololol [01:09] !info firmware-b43-installer [01:09] firmware-b43-installer (source: b43-fwcutter): firmware installer for the b43 driver. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:018-2 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 56 kB [01:10] [ sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer ] [01:10] When that's done, do [ sudo modprobe -r b43 wl brcmsmac ] and then [ sudo modprobe b43 ] [01:14] lubuntu@lubuntu:~$ it is on the most recent version http://paste.ubuntu.com/7288154/ [01:15] ok all done [01:16] no errors and no Wireless [01:16] UrielVigilant: Did you run the next 2 commands? [01:17] ye [01:17] yes i did [01:18] Did you restart? [01:18] No, you didn't :) [01:18] nOl joaninhao [01:18] no i did nt [01:18] i will [01:18] give me a second, i wil be back [01:34] sonikkuAmerica after what you told me to do, and restart i wasnt able to conecte to internet by cable [01:34] now i have to creat a new live persisten 14.04 usb [01:35] i think i will stay with 13.10 until someone review this problem. I think is a internal bulding problem with 14.04 [01:36] Well, I know how to fix the Broadcom problem, but maybe the solution only works on hard metal [01:36] hard metal ? you mean a hammer or so ? [01:36] lolol [01:37] No, a hard disk [01:38] Do you think if i install 14.04 on hard disk, it will work ? [01:39] Well, if you tether your computer to something else (like a smartphone or tablet) that can access Wi-Fi, then yes. [01:43] where i can complain with this, to b this solved more faster ? [01:43] urielvigilant: You could file a bug against firmware-b43-installer [01:43] Just type [ ubuntu-bug firmware-b43-installer ] [01:44] do it for me please, ok ? my english is not so good [01:45] Well, it's not really my problem... you can file the bug and send me the link and I'll try and explain a little more, maybe? [01:46] Alternatively, you can type in Google Translate and translate into English too [01:49] you are right,. thank you anyway [01:50] exit === soliloquy is now known as Guest76397 [04:31] hi guys, I just upgraded to lubuntu 14.04 and want to use i3 for my WM/DM. What does lubuntu use as its settings daemon, like xfce uses xfsettingsd and gnome-settings-daemon [04:31] ? [04:50] facing sound issue in xubuntu need help.. [04:51] tonystark: what's the issue? [04:52] i dont gedt sound in system startup and shutdown [04:52] using xubuntu 14.04 [04:53] can you be more specific? are you talking about login sounds? when are you expecting to hear sounds [04:54] login sounds .. shutdown sounds... thunderbird mail sounds and other system sounds [04:54] are you able to get them working at all? [04:54] or is it always quiet? [04:54] always quite only mp3 and video got sound [04:55] open a terminal and run 'ps aux | grep pulse'. do you get any output? [04:55] wait [04:56] i dont get ur code plz say again [04:56] just type what is in quotes there [04:56] without the quotes, of course [04:56] how to get tht line sort of thing [04:57] noob u know [04:57] no prob [04:57] are you able to get to terminal? [04:57] yep [04:57] ok [04:57] its easier than I made it sound, type ps aux | grep pulse [04:58] that gets a list of processes running and looks for anything named "pulse" [04:58] dont scold me but i cant gedt tht straight line i get this slanting one / [04:59] haha no worries dude [04:59] it's shift + \ [04:59] thanks [04:59] the pipe character [04:59] I think you can copy and paste from your irc client too [04:59] i did it [04:59] now what? [04:59] lightdm 1271 0.0 0.2 100004 4884 ? S tonysta+ 1778 0.0 0.2 91148 5304 ? S tonysta+ 3658 0.0 0.0 4936 824 pts/0 S+ 10:29 0:00 grep --color=auto pulse [05:00] ok good, so that checks to see if the pulseaudio daemon is running, and it is [05:00] thats the process that handles the sound for those applications [05:00] ohk [05:00] so now? [05:00] so in the same terminal, type "sudo apt-get install pavucontrol" [05:00] ok [05:00] (copy and paste) [05:01] it says its already the latest version [05:01] i m using xubuntu 14.04 [05:01] ok good [05:01] so now run pavucontrol [05:02] its where? [05:02] just type pavucontrol in the terminal [05:02] sorry [05:02] got it [05:02] now? [05:02] the first tab in the window that shows up should be called playback [05:02] is it selected [05:02] ? [05:02] yeah [05:03] you should see system sounds as the top item [05:03] yep [05:03] its set to 100 dcb [05:03] i mean db [05:03] on the far right after the title, you should see a speaker with an X [05:03] I bet systems sounds are muted [05:03] now they are not [05:03] good [05:04] changes you make in that window take effect immediately and are persistent [05:04] ok, so keep that window open [05:04] ok [05:04] now try to make those apps you were talking about make some sounds [05:04] you should hear them now [05:04] ok wait [05:05] nopes i dont [05:06] so when programs are playing sounds, you should see some meters jumping around in the pavucontrol window [05:06] they aren't anything happening [05:06] what if there is no sound file? [05:07] yeah, that could be the issue [05:07] so you're in xfce... let me see what the easiest way to make app sounds is [05:07] ohk [05:09] go to your xfce4-settings manager, it should be in the main "start" menu [05:09] what would be there? [05:09] there is a setting to enable event sounds [05:09] by default it is off, I believe [05:09] i did it not working again [05:10] did you go to appearance->settings and click enable event sounds? [05:10] i mean really sorry i got it to work [05:10] thanks man [05:11] thank u [05:11] oh haha, good! [05:11] was it that checkbox? [05:11] no it took a bit and suddenly a pop up sound came [05:11] how are you connected to your speakers? [05:11] digital audio or analog connection? [05:11] i got 3.5mm jack cable [05:12] just a regular headphone connection? [05:12] yep [05:12] ahh ok [05:12] thanks for helping this noob [05:12] not a problem, glad I was able to help [05:13] can u wait [05:13] i see after restarting if the sound comes [05:13] I'll be around [05:13] or not [05:13] thank [05:15] i m bck [05:16] any luck [05:16] nopes... [05:16] but works some tym for a beep [05:16] at xchat [05:17] so what sound are you expecting that you aren't hearing? [05:18] i heard some says there is a spund at the login and logout [05:18] u know the way in windows [05:19] yeah, I'm not sure if xubuntu has those sounds, I've never used them [05:20] nvr mind i got the sound for mails atleast [05:20] problem is solved [05:20] i m good now [05:20] pheww. [05:20] I believe you can install some of those login sounds [05:20] if you want [05:21] i'll see u know tough for a noob to configure all those things [05:22] it's not very difficult if you want to try [05:22] no guarantee it'll install the sounds you want, but it won't harm anything to try [05:22] ohk u gonna help then i m ready [05:24] ok, opena terminal again [05:24] then sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sounds [05:25] kk [05:25] unable to locate package sounds [05:27] hmm [05:28] did you type exactly that? [05:28] yep [05:28] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-sounds [05:28] try again, copy and paste this time [05:28] !info ubuntu-sounds [05:28] ubuntu-sounds (source: ubuntu-sounds): Ubuntu's GNOME audio theme. In component main, is optional. Version 0.13 (trusty), package size 269 kB, installed size 396 kB [05:28] working now [05:29] did it download and install things? [05:29] setting up done [05:29] yep [05:29] ok good [05:30] so should i try again? [05:31] wait trying [05:33] no luck [05:47] so if you were using Unity (regular ubuntu) you would have more control of event sounds [05:47] but I think xubuntu only has limited control and use of that, so I think this might be the most you can do with xubuntu [05:50] lxsession is as close to a settingsd that LXDE uses, that I can think of at least. [05:50] ohk [05:50] i feell like fucked up [05:50] shit xubuntu [05:50] but i tried with dconf editor [05:50] hope it works [05:50] tonystark: Please keep it family friendly. Also, I think you've confused #lubuntu with #xubuntu ? [05:51] whatever u dont get it after 2 hours of trying i get nothing [05:55] Unit193: ahh ok, I was hoping to use whatever facility that lubuntu had for i3 [05:55] xfsettingsd was breaking some power management stuff in 14.04 for me [05:55] Can't just s/openbox/i3/ ? :P [05:56] haha [05:56] nope [05:56] i3 is pure keyboard bliss, though openbox is great if you like lightweight + mouse ;) [05:57] bah, awesome ftw but i like i3lock [05:57] awesome seems pretty great, but I prefer to control my own layouts [05:57] spirals aren't how I think :P [05:58] you can tweak it however you want [05:58] config is essentially a lua script [05:59] in awesome, can you split windows and tile them on the fly? I've never really found a way to dynamically control that with awesome [05:59] with awesome there's little you can't do [05:59] well.... [06:00] with assembly, a microprocessor, and a keyboard, there's nothing you can't do [06:00] but (insert clever comment about inventing wheels) [06:00] * wxl facepalms [06:01] well so a more legitimate question, what does awesome do that i3 can't do? [06:03] it's not about that. awesome is no more than you need. not as extreme as ratpoison, dwm, or stumpwm in its minimalism, but simple enough. like lubuntu, it's a good balance. [06:03] i3 is the unity of tiling wms ;) [06:03] oooh come now [06:05] awesome is the toilet bowl of wms (everything is a spiral) [06:05] there's one spiral and it's as easy as "--" to remove [06:06] then it becomes a pile :) [09:00] Good Morning === roman is now known as Guest32527 [10:07] I am having a bit of a ridiculous question [10:08] with the last update i seem to be unable to choose the wifi network i connect to via the gui [10:08] it used to be just clicking and then it changed, but now I am unable to change it [10:08] unless I delete the other wifi, which I don't want to [10:09] since I need both, on different occasions [10:11] If I click on the panel it shows all the networks, when I click the one I want to connect to it asks me for the key [10:11] but then it doesn't connect [10:14] this just sounds ridiculous [11:40] raalex: you have to right click choos add to panel and then add network configuration (or something simular my Systemlanguage is German) then you can choose you wlan [11:42] raalex: or just use "nm-applet" [11:45] raalex: see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449709/network-indicator-disappeared-in-lubuntu [11:46] I hope this behavouir whill change until 14.04.1 is ther already a bug issue open to follow? [11:51] a found it: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1296243 [11:51] Launchpad bug 1296243 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "Can't see icon in notification bar" [Undecided,Incomplete] [12:10] Hi Sk1d [12:10] thanks, but I have the icon added [12:10] it just does not do anything but shows me all the networks it finds [12:10] I cannot change to a different one [12:11] Hey, what can blank an X other than xscreensaver? I basically did a update-manager update to 14.04 and something blanks my X in a way that I have to switch to text console first, then back to X to get a picture. [12:12] I'll look into other options though, thanks [12:12] that thread looks helpful [12:26] xset dpms force off produces the same result. [13:19] where to download Lubuntu LTS? [13:31] the internet? [13:32] !lubuntu [13:32] lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support. [13:32] Lubuntu 14.04 [13:33] LTS [13:37] see sction get lubuntu [13:37] *section [14:11] Is anyone actually using light-locker? [15:02] Something is very wrong with this 14.04 and bcm 4311, because with 13.10 it use to work only installing the linux-firmware-nonfree and edit the blacklist.conf and put a # before this sentence. But with this Lubuntu 14.04 i tryed all of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292079/ and nothing put it my bcm 43 11 On never . Thanks GOD iam experiment in a usb live persitent usb 4 Gb, other wise i.. [15:57] thanks for your help Sk1d, it worked, everything is fine now [15:58] I am just a little bit too bad at using search engines it seems [15:58] Hi [16:00] I got two questions about the Lubuntu / Ubuntu minimal install:1) is automatic security updates recommended? Under "Method" here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/MinimalInstall it says "Updates - Select 'No Automatic Updates' [See note 3]." Why? [16:03] And the other question is: I want to end up with Lubuntu Core. Therefore I have to install Ubuntu Minimal and then get the lubuntu.core package. There is a screen titled "software selection" (you can see it here http://amjjawad.blogspot.de/2013/07/ubuntu-mini-iso-installation-process.html point 27). Which one do I select here when I want to end up [16:03] with lubuntu core? [16:09] I wish I could help you [16:09] but if you have some patience, someone who has a clue is eventually gonna show up :) [16:17] sure [16:17] thx [16:39] lubuntu <3 [16:39] hello everyone [16:40] please can anyone advise me how do i change keyboard layouts available in the LDM greeter? [17:07] VanKush: in the top right corner i think? [17:12] koell: that is where they are listed, but i need a layout that is not there yet [19:27] I have a quick question. I have found documentation about the reasoning why Hibernate is disabled by default. I have reanabled it but its showing only for Ubuntu and I am running Lubuntu, any help for this? [19:36] ma5t3rw1tt: when on both lubuntu and unity ubuntu on same login or did you install as a dual boot on two seperate partitions? [19:37] I just have Lubuntu installed only [19:37] you mean on boot the menu says ubuntu when first booting? [19:38] No it shows Lubuntu, what I said about the documentation is re enabling hibernation. [19:38] I think it is the same as they share components just different desktop environment [19:39] Hmmm well when I did that and restarted the compute, I clicked on Hibernate from the menu and I getGDBus.Error [19:40] but I was able to in the terminal, I was able to make it go to Hibernate by typing pm-hibernate [19:41] I was thinking on possibly making a script for the "pm-hibernate" command but I not sure how I would do it, cause I tried to make a .desktop file linking to a .sh script I made and well that didn't go well [19:42] you could do hibernate maybe as a keyboard shortcut [19:43] Well I use my phone to control my computer. I am using this computer as a HTPC, so I use my phone or tablet mainly for input [19:44] If I could find a way to make a script that I could turn into a shortcut on the desktop, I could just double click that when I wanna hibernate the computer [19:45] The reason I need Hibernate is because Wake On Lan don't work for this computer when its shut off completely and the suspend keeps all the lights on the computer going and nothing on the screen [19:48] ma5t3rw1tt: Do you have swap space? [19:48] yes [19:48] Oh oh oh, I see what you're trying to do [19:49] The command is [ pmi action hibernate ] [19:49] But first, you need the powermanagement-interface package [19:49] !info powermanagement-interface [19:49] powermanagement-interface (source: powermanagement-interface): platform neutral powermanagement interface. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.20ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 9 kB, installed size 53 kB [19:50] so i need to install that? [19:51] Yeah [19:52] OK I just installed that just now [19:52] And now all you need to do is create a .desktop file that has [ pmi action hibernate ] in the exec line [19:53] !shortcut [19:53] Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/ - See !Keyboard for changing layouts. A list of keyboard shortcuts for Unity is available at http://ubottu.com/y/shortcuts [19:53] Um, well... [19:53] That was not the factoid I was looking for [19:53] Well I don't need a keyboard shortcut, a Desktop shortcut would suffice [19:53] But lemme see about creating that .Desktop file and trying that out [19:54] Oh right. /facepalm [19:54] You wanted a KEYBOARD shorcut [19:54] *shortcut [19:55] lol no keyboard shortcut, just a simple desktop shortcut [19:55] Gah! I'm confusing myself! [19:55] lol [19:56] now I make the .desktop executable by chmod +x correct? [19:56] So yeah, create an empty file on the desktop, name it whatever.desktop (something meaningful, anyway) [19:56] Yes [19:56] ok I thought so, one moment [19:56] Add +x to it, then double-click it [19:56] ma5t3rw1tt, have you tried to just drag the program from lkde menu to desktop? [19:57] @reblues - I'll figure that out once I get the shortcut working [19:57] ok here goes *fingers crossed* [19:57] reblues: You do realize he'd have to drag a terminal command, not a program [19:57] might need to copy the .desktop command somewhere into menu [19:57] or .desktop file [19:57] I doubled clicked the icon, nothing worked [19:58] Lemme try something over here. [19:58] alrighty ^_^ [19:58] then he may add lxterminal before the command in the desktop file I fuess [19:58] I guess [19:58] yeah lemme try that [19:58] ok here goes [19:59] pfft nothing [19:59] in the exec - I did lexterminal pmi action hibernate [19:59] *lxterminal pmi action hibernate [20:01] Uhmm have you tried the command pm-hibernate [20:01] Don't that need sudo if I gonna use that in a shortcut? [20:03] Yes I guess so, [20:03] Yeah, use [ sudo pm-hibernate ] [20:03] do i need the [] in the command? [20:03] No, that just denotes terminal input in IRC (style choice) [20:03] Many people use quotes, I use [ ] [20:04] i double click on my .desktop and nothing happens [20:04] So the Exec= line could be "lxterminal -e 'sudo pm-hibernate'" [20:04] ok lemme try that [20:04] ma5t3rw1tt: Did you set the Type= to Application? [20:04] haha it was set to false [20:05] oops [20:05] wait no, I had the words Terminal=false [20:05] does that matter? [20:07] ok that works, now its asking for a password, anyway to have that automatically put in? [20:08] it pop up a terminal window asking for a password [20:08] ma5t3rw1tt: That would compromise security [20:08] I am the only person using this computer [20:09] Fair enough, but you'd still have to input the user password no matter what [20:09] hmm [20:10] or log as root but thats dangerous, you may delete all system [20:10] reblues: Yeah that would be bad as I just spend an hour and half setting up drivers [20:11] Well I thank you guys very much for the help [20:11] I'll get creative and find something [20:35] I got it work [20:35] @SonikkuAmerica: I got it work [20:37] @SonikkuAmerica: It was a long command but it worked when I added it to the exec area. Now I just need to move this file to the desktop and I'll be golden [20:37] Yay! [20:37] wanna know the code I used? [20:41] !paste [20:41] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [20:41] Sure! Dump it in a pastebin [20:43] Here ya go [20:43] http://paste.ubuntu.com/7294273/ [20:43] This does not prompt for my login like the other commands did [20:44] Well, OK, a DBus command [20:45] Yeah, fixed the hibernate, now I trying to get my shortcut I made onto the desktop [20:45] i got it moved to /usr/share/applications [20:48] nvm, I fixed it