| Thorondor | Elleo: Interesting discussion the one you pointed out. Unfortunately it seems it didn't settle into a plan of actions. However somone suggested separating app into daemon/UI components and seemd to me that this is possible as of today. Not sure though. | 02:34 |
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| dobey | Thorondor: for IM? i think there is already a telepathy daemon running in the background | 02:35 |
| Thorondor | dobey: In that case it should be possible to get access to multiple Messaging services by using it, and we just need to connect the messaging app to it in a way that everytime the app gets the focus it shows you the state of your active IM services. However we would need a notification callback to handle new messages too. | 02:38 |
| dobey | Thorondor: i'm pretty sure there is already some sort of notification support for sms, the same should be used for im | 02:39 |
| Thorondor | dobey: Sure | 02:39 |
| Thorondor | dobey: Do you know how can I writ ethe pipe character in the terminal app on touch? | 02:44 |
| Thorondor | I want to check if there's *telepathy* running | 02:44 |
| Thorondor | ps -A|grep telepathy | 02:45 |
| dobey | no idea | 02:48 |
| Thorondor | hehe, there's a lot to improve :) | 02:48 |
| Thorondor | I think only CTRL+ signals are handled right now | 02:48 |
| Thorondor | The keyboard for terminal should have a special layout | 02:49 |
| Thorondor | By the way, there's a telepathy-mission-control package | 02:49 |
| Thorondor | So, as you said it should be running back there | 02:49 |
| dobey | why not use adb shell and do ps afx in there? | 02:50 |
| Thorondor | dobey: Because I'm just learning Ubuntu touch, I first try what I'm used to use. Thanks for the suggestion | 03:10 |
| dobey | Thorondor: you've developed any apps for android before? | 03:12 |
| Thorondor | My first phone is my current nexus 4, and I bought it because I believe Ubuntu Touch is what I want to use. So I'm just starting in this context. Didn't want to try Android for development. | 03:16 |
| Thorondor | I don't want a phone, I want a portable computer with ubuntu and phone capabilities | 03:18 |
| dobey | Ah. Well, the full convergence story is a long way off. | 03:20 |
| Thorondor | Yeah, but it seems like a good moment to start playing with it | 03:21 |
| Thorondor | Solving IM and mail client, I can try to use it regularly | 03:22 |
| Thorondor | then push for power consumption | 03:22 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, :D | 03:38 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, the ui is fantastic. I can't wait to get my first official device. | 03:38 |
| Thorondor | Aki-Thinkpad: Yes, it looks pretty good. I still don't like the white background, but for sure could be customized. | 03:43 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, oh they will probably include a high contrast theme, and a darker background | 03:43 |
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| Thorondor | I like dark background, saves battery too | 03:43 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, do you know how to get started in app development? I don't mind walking you through the basics | 03:44 |
| Thorondor | Well, I have been reading a bit. But didn't go to the details yet. I already got a branch from messaging-app in my pc | 03:45 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, yah you are probably fine :P | 03:45 |
| Thorondor | I have to see how the croxx compiling is being done | 03:46 |
| Thorondor | cross compiling | 03:46 |
| Thorondor | and the procedure to get my experimental code tested on my device | 03:46 |
| Thorondor | I have the feeling that things are not being done the same way it works on the desktop | 03:47 |
| Thorondor | I'll have to give the IDE a try | 03:48 |
| Thorondor | So, in summary: We have a telepathy daemon running on the phone already. The phone-app is a telepathy client app and so has to be the messaging-app to handle IM. So I should try to enhance messaging app to be a generig IM app. | 03:55 |
| Thorondor | Time to sleep now, but seems like I have a plan to go. Nest move would be to take a look at the recommended development flow from code to test on the target device (nexus 4) | 03:56 |
| Thorondor | Thanks a lot guys for the feedback and help | 03:57 |
| Thorondor | Aki-Thinkpad: Thanks for the help offer. I'll remember that if I got any issues trying to follow the development flow. | 03:57 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, If I can, i'll help :P | 03:58 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | i am far from expert | 03:58 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Thorondor, please though come hang out in #ubuntu-app-devel | 03:59 |
| Thorondor | It doesn't matter. It's just about getting the different bits of knowledge together and make it work. I'm just starting to document myself about the touch development model. | 03:59 |
| Thorondor | Aki-Thinkpad: Ok, I will thanks | 04:00 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | o/ | 04:00 |
| Thorondor | Ok, Good Night | 04:01 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu touch has new image togheter with trusty release? | 04:03 |
| lotuspsychje | i would like to retry it on my nexus7 | 04:03 |
| lotuspsychje | can someone confirm if flip horizontal have been fixxed on ubuntu-touch on nexus7?? | 04:20 |
| wponso | i am new here and wanna use ubuntu touch in Iron Rock Motorola Iden/3G device | 04:53 |
| wponso | does anyone could send me more information about?? | 04:54 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, have you checked the ubuntu devices wiki? | 04:54 |
| wponso | Yes, Aki, but I cant find information about the Iden part | 04:55 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices | 04:55 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Iden? | 04:55 |
| wponso | Iden is the Nextel type of carrier phone | 04:55 |
| wponso | there are GSM, WCDMA and nothing abonut Iden | 04:55 |
| wponso | Iron Rock = XT626 Morotola | 04:56 |
| lotuspsychje | will this guide install latest touch on my nexus? http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-touch-nexus-7-2013/ | 04:56 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, I am no expert here, so take this with a grain of salt | 04:57 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, but I do not think anyone has made an image for your device yet | 04:57 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | ie, if you want to get ubuntu touch working on that phone, it looks like you will have to port it yourself | 04:57 |
| wponso | Yes Aki, I know that anyone done this, but If I have more document about, I can start this | 04:58 |
| wponso | ...and share it :D | 04:58 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, I would start by finding the android version code name for your device | 04:59 |
| wponso | Android 2.3 | 04:59 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, for my own part, I tried porting a later release for a nook tablet, but found myself overwhelmed with the complexity | 04:59 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, that is not what I mean. | 05:00 |
| wponso | sure | 05:00 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, every device has a code name | 05:00 |
| wponso | Wait a little minute | 05:00 |
| wponso | Ginger Bread | 05:00 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | *facepalm* | 05:00 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | nope, thats not what I mean either | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | :P | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | here | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Galaxy Nexus | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | 05:01 | |
| Aki-Thinkpad | maguro (GSM/HSPA+ Variant) | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Nexus 4 | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | 05:01 | |
| Aki-Thinkpad | mako | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Nexus 7 | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | 05:01 | |
| Aki-Thinkpad | grouper | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Nexus 10 | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | 05:01 | |
| Aki-Thinkpad | manta | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | ergo, galaxy nexus == maguro | 05:01 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | nexus4 == mako | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | Aki-Thinkpad: did you test the nex touch yet? | 05:01 |
| lotuspsychje | new | 05:02 |
| wponso | I thing that I need some drivers to get the succesfull port | 05:02 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | lotuspsychje, not yet. I don't have a device to even use it on. | 05:02 |
| lotuspsychje | Aki-Thinkpad: ok tnx im gonna retry it then | 05:02 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, do you have any experience with android and its kernel? | 05:02 |
| wponso | no I am not test the new touch, I wann try with this device | 05:02 |
| wponso | I ported other devices to new android versions, but never try with Ubuntu | 05:03 |
| wponso | tryed | 05:03 |
| wponso | tried, sorry | 05:03 |
| wponso | :) | 05:03 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, well that is a start. XDA forums might be a good place to start, or askubuntu | 05:04 |
| wponso | XDA has fell documents about ubuntu, more about Android. | 05:04 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, Its complicated; I gave up, and that was with an existing image. | 05:04 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | But I have little patience for documentation | 05:05 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | Anyways, good luck; I need to get back to work on my app :p | 05:05 |
| wponso | ok, I will try contact with askubuntu, but my impression is that they don't share many information about | 05:06 |
| wponso | tks for patience and time | 05:06 |
| wponso | good lucky | 05:06 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, askubuntu is pretty good, but you have to know how to ask. | 05:12 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | wponso, and you can put bounties on your question | 05:12 |
| wponso | I will try, but I found old solutions out of UbuntuAsk, in the past. Some of theese questions was ignored (it was my impression). But I will try (I am doing this now) | 05:13 |
| wponso | Hey Aki, that is my post http://askubuntu.com/questions/451117/porting-ubuntu-touch-on-motorola-xt624-iron-rock | 05:22 |
| nerve2009 | hii.. i want to put the ubuntu touch on my samsung galaxy note n7000. i have followed the guide at ubuntu wiki as they provide.. the problem is, i can't boot my device (hold power button + volume down + home) | 06:41 |
| lotuspsychje | whats the command to install new ubuntu touch? | 07:32 |
| lotuspsychje | wiki shows the developing version | 07:33 |
| lotuspsychje | this is what i get on my nexus7 | 07:39 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@RooTBoX:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap | 07:39 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 09:38:44 Device is |flo| | 07:39 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 09:38:45 Flashing version 302 from trusty channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo | 07:39 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 09:39:10 Get https://system-image.ubuntu.com/gpg/image-master.tar.xz.asc: EOF | 07:39 |
| j_huddle | Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can help me anwer a few questions about device compatibility... | 08:11 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | they always leave so quickly | 08:38 |
| lotuspsychje | whats the command to install the new ubuntu-touch? wiki shows still the dev version | 13:32 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | lotuspsychje, report that as a bug. | 13:33 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal | 13:34 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | presuming that it is outdated | 13:35 |
| lotuspsychje | well im not sure | 13:35 |
| lotuspsychje | cant find any tutorial on the new touch version | 13:36 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | lotuspsychje, why not just download the dev version? | 13:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Aki-Thinkpad, ive tested the dev version already | 13:36 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | o_O | 13:36 |
| lotuspsychje | Aki-Thinkpad, thats not the same as new ubuntu touch right? | 13:37 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | :) | 13:37 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | don't know. I am assuming (not an expert here), that no stable release will be made until they get it on the phone. | 13:37 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | their bq phones etc | 13:37 |
| lotuspsychje | Aki-Thinkpad, i found articles about they released a new ubuntu touch | 13:38 |
| lotuspsychje | togheter with 14.04 | 13:38 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | shows you what I know~ | 13:38 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: it's just a matter of setting what channel you want with ubuntu-device-flash, e.g. --channel=stable (or --channel=trusty) will give you stable, --channel=devel will give you devel and --channel=devel-proposed will give you the most experimental images | 13:38 |
| Aki-Thinkpad | oh interesting | 13:38 |
| Elleo | you won't see much difference between devel and stable at the moment though, I think they're probably the same image since I don't think anything has been promoted to devel since the release | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, do you know if the new version fixxed horizontal flip? | 13:39 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: in what way? | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, yes but the image has changed then the image from few weeks ago right? | 13:39 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: yes | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, ive installed ubuntu touch dev version on my nexus7 weeks ago | 13:39 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, so the plan is to test the newer version right now | 13:40 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, but the guide to install i followed, didnt work anymore | 13:40 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: what about it didn't work? | 13:40 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install is pretty much the definitive guide | 13:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, after the command to download, it failed on me | 13:41 |
| lotuspsychje | http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-touch-nexus-7-2013/ | 13:41 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, after this line: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap | 13:42 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: if you've already got an image you don't want to follow those instructions | 13:42 |
| Elleo | those are for setting up a clean image | 13:42 |
| Elleo | just "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty" is enough | 13:42 |
| lotuspsychje | gave me aok lemme retry that one holdon | 13:43 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, and that will install latest trusty image right? | 13:44 |
| Elleo | yes | 13:44 |
| lotuspsychje | ok tnx :p | 13:44 |
| Elleo | although if you're interested in testing the latest (relatively stable) stuff in the future you'll want to flash the devel channel | 13:44 |
| Elleo | the trusty image won't change much from this point since it's "stable" now | 13:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, i wanna try the most stable release that came out togheter with trusty | 13:45 |
| Elleo | (at the moment trusty and devel are identical, but that won't be the case when people start working again next week) | 13:45 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, isnt there an update function after from terminal? | 13:46 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: there's a gui update function in the system settings | 13:46 |
| Elleo | iirc it only works if you don't enable a writable image | 13:46 |
| lotuspsychje | ic | 13:47 |
| Elleo | but the trusty image won't be changing any more, so the next update on that channel will be in (presumably) 6 months time with the next release | 13:47 |
| lotuspsychje | thats np | 13:47 |
| lotuspsychje | if i can see the renewed touch ill be glad | 13:47 |
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| lotuspsychje | Elleo, lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ adb reboot bootloader | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 15:49:57 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 15:49:57 exit status 255 | 13:50 |
| lotuspsychje | this is what i get | 13:50 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: is your device booted up and connected? | 13:51 |
| Elleo | it should just be running normal in UT | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, oh ok | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | from android? | 13:52 |
| Elleo | no, Ubuntu Touch | 13:52 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont have touch installed on it yet | 13:52 |
| Elleo | ah, sorry, when you said you'd installed an earlier image I assumed you still had it installed | 13:52 |
| Elleo | in that case you do want the --bootstrap option | 13:53 |
| lotuspsychje | ok | 13:53 |
| Elleo | and yes, you want to be in android at the time | 13:53 |
| lotuspsychje | lets try :p | 13:53 |
| Elleo | oh no hang on | 13:54 |
| Elleo | for bootstrap you need to be in the bootloader | 13:54 |
| lotuspsychje | yes thats where i go | 13:54 |
| lotuspsychje | adb reboot bootloader | 13:54 |
| Elleo | is the bootloader unlocked? | 13:54 |
| lotuspsychje | yes | 13:54 |
| Elleo | and the device is in usb debugging mode? | 13:54 |
| lotuspsychje | yes :p | 13:54 |
| Elleo | in that case I don't know why it's not being detected by adb | 13:54 |
| Elleo | best thing I can suggest is to run through the steps here and see if there's anything you might have missed/those other instructions missed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | yesss | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | there it goes | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 15:55:38 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 15:55:38 Device is |flo| | 13:55 |
| lotuspsychje | 2014/04/20 15:55:39 Flashing version 302 from trusty channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo | 13:55 |
| Elleo | ah, cool | 13:56 |
| lotuspsychje | so channel trusty would be the latest stable 14.04 touch version? | 13:56 |
| lotuspsychje | and channel dev the develope version? | 13:57 |
| Elleo | yes | 13:57 |
| lotuspsychje | there are so many folders on that index | 13:57 |
| Elleo | the basic procedure at the moment is that work happens in "devel-proposed", then if it doesn't fail too many import tests it gets promoted to "devel", then every ~6 months the latest "devel" image gets promoted to the "stable" channel | 13:58 |
| Elleo | I would suspect that might change a bit once consumer releases are available, as there might well be ongoing maintenance work on the "stable" channel or something too, but I'm just guessing there | 13:58 |
| lotuspsychje | i see, every folder new stage | 13:58 |
| lotuspsychje | well you guys done great work, congrats for that | 14:00 |
| Elleo | :) | 14:00 |
| lotuspsychje | it can only get better the comming time | 14:00 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont wanna get stuck on insecure android | 14:02 |
| lotuspsychje | ok downloading done and showing purple ubuntu screen | 14:06 |
| Elleo | first boot will take a while | 14:07 |
| lotuspsychje | ubuntu wheel turning :p | 14:08 |
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| lotuspsychje | Elleo, it worked mate tnx alot! | 14:13 |
| Elleo | great :) | 14:13 |
| lotuspsychje | looking good :p | 14:15 |
| lotuspsychje | much smoother then last image | 14:16 |
| Elleo | good | 14:25 |
| lotuspsychje | it might be interesting to share that to users somehow Elleo | 14:25 |
| lotuspsychje | that ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap | 14:26 |
| Elleo | well it's pretty much all on the wiki page, althought perhaps not as well explained as it could be | 14:26 |
| Elleo | although* | 14:26 |
| lotuspsychje | i only saw a few video's on youtube running the new image yet | 14:26 |
| Elleo | the focus there is on getting people on to the devel image since that's where most new stuff happens | 14:26 |
| lotuspsychje | ah i understand | 14:27 |
| lotuspsychje | so channel=devel with also get latest 'test' version of the renewed trusty right? | 14:28 |
| lotuspsychje | and from there users can help the community? | 14:28 |
| Elleo | yeah, pretty much | 14:29 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx alot for the clear info :p | 14:30 |
| lotuspsychje | happy nexus user now here | 14:30 |
| Elleo | good :) | 14:30 |
| lotuspsychje | is it possible to install classic terminal packages as nmap or so? | 14:31 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: yep, if you switch to having a writable image by doing "phablet-config writable-image" | 14:32 |
| Elleo | you can then just do "sudo apt-get install nmap" | 14:32 |
| Elleo | (default password is "phablet") | 14:32 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, can i add that phablet line in terminal? | 14:32 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: you need to do that from your desktop machine | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | ah okay | 14:33 |
| Elleo | (with the tablet/phone attached via usb) | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | and can i change the default root pass? | 14:33 |
| Elleo | yep | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | nicely | 14:33 |
| lotuspsychje | installing phablet-tools :p | 14:34 |
| lotuspsychje | lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ phablet-config writable-image | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | PING launchpad.net (91.189.89.222) 56(84) bytes of data. | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | worked | 14:40 |
| lotuspsychje | and my new trusty desktop shows nexus icon mounted | 14:41 |
| lotuspsychje | thats sweet | 14:41 |
| Elleo | :) | 14:44 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, phablet worked as root, now how do i change root pass? | 14:47 |
| Elleo | lotuspsychje: just run passwd as phablet | 14:48 |
| lotuspsychje | lets see | 14:48 |
| Elleo | there isn't a root password as such, since it's using sudo | 14:48 |
| Elleo | so it authenticates phablet as root via phablet's own password (just like on desktop Ubuntu) | 14:48 |
| lotuspsychje | passwd: password update succesfully | 14:49 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 14:49 |
| lotuspsychje | and installing nmap | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | yes yes | 14:50 |
| lotuspsychje | Elleo, your the lifesaver of the day :p | 14:50 |
| Elleo | glad to be of help :) | 14:51 |
| lotuspsychje | :p | 14:51 |
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| echoe | How does ubuntu touch perform on the nexus 7 let, anyone know? | 18:12 |
| echoe | I mean lte | 18:12 |
| Tassadar | the 2013 version? | 18:12 |
| echoe | Yeah. | 18:13 |
| Tassadar | only the wifi version is officialy supported, and it works pretty well on it | 18:13 |
| echoe | I have it on a nexus 4 and it's ... Disappointing right now. ...... oh, well then | 18:14 |
| Tassadar | I maintain unofficial server with daily builds for the lte version, and the mobile data work on it | 18:14 |
| Tassadar | it's not gonna work better than n4 | 18:14 |
| echoe | alas. Thanks for the answer though. | 18:14 |
| Tassadar | the OS is still very much in development, so yeah | 18:14 |
| echoe | Yeah ... I heard summer was the target for a usable daily driver? | 18:15 |
| echoe | Hopefully it'll be much better in a few months :) | 18:16 |
| Tassadar | "daily driver" is rather relative term | 18:16 |
| Tassadar | many people here use it daily and are fine with it, but for me it's not there yet | 18:16 |
| bacteu | I suppose if you use it daily you forget how much more responsive android is in comparison | 18:21 |
| echoe | it really is relative. Idk, I have an iphone so it would have to do a lot. :p | 19:30 |
| bacteu | echoe: iphones do what they do well. Maybe once ubuntu touch moves beyond just basic smartphone stuff and onto the meaty stuff like docking it will become interesting | 19:38 |
| echoe | definitely. I mean, first one would hope they can work on the keyboard a bit ... idk. Maybe I'll look into it and can code ubuntu touch swype. x.x and make it so the keyboard doesn't hang out so much or at least has a button to close ... | 19:39 |
| Tassadar | in my opinion, it is a bit unfair to compare ubuntu touch, which doesn't even have it's own device released, with systems which have been out for years right now | 19:41 |
| bacteu | meh, all it would have to take is canonical to license myriad's alien dalvik like jolla are doing or implement their own.. and boom ubuntu had android apps | 19:42 |
| Elleo | echoe: you can close the keyboard by swiping down from the top of it | 19:42 |
| bacteu | imo ubuntu should have gone with more of a softkey approach rather than the guestures | 19:44 |
| bacteu | I'm not really sold | 19:44 |
| dobey | bacteu: eh, gestures are fine as long as they're done right. softkeys tend to be a pain. for webos for example has all the gestures pretty much perfect | 19:59 |
| bacteu | has canonical hired anyone who worked on webos? | 19:59 |
| bacteu | or did google grab them all? | 20:00 |
| dobey | i don't know if anyone who worked on webos works at canonical (i didn't personally know anyone that worked on webos, at least afaik) | 20:03 |
| bacteu | dobey: Matias Duarte comes to mind. | 20:06 |
| dobey | i don't know him | 20:07 |
| bacteu | hes the guy behind android's current look | 20:07 |
| dobey | ok | 20:08 |
| echoe | It would be nice if there were more hints built into the is about how to do things | 20:10 |
| echoe | *os | 20:10 |
| dobey | in android? | 20:10 |
| echoe | Like, is there a way to close an open process in ubuntu? | 20:11 |
| echoe | No, in ubuntu touch | 20:11 |
| dobey | swipe all the way across the screen from the left edge, long press on the app under "Recent" in the apps scope, and then press on the [x] that shows up | 20:11 |
| echoe | See I thought I could flick them away like webos | 20:29 |
| echoe | I'll try that when I get home ... | 20:29 |
| lakin | So I know the instructions here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install - say that it can take a long time, but how long should I be staring at a spinning ubuntu logo with an orange progress bar? It's already been about 2 hours. | 20:47 |
| lakin | The terminal where I issued the `ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap` command has long since given me back my control so it doesn't seem as if my box is actively doing anything with the device. (A nexus 7 2013 if that matters) | 20:49 |
| lakin | Ok, using the recovery to wipe/format /data and the cache and then trying again worked. :) | 22:00 |
| proxypirate | Hello ubuntu-touch users! | 23:07 |
| proxypirate | Hey guys so I have ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 flo model tablet....but what I am wonder is if ubuntu touch is still being updated? | 23:09 |
| proxypirate | I installed ubuntu touch about 1.5 months ago so I want to know if I download ubuntu touch and flash it again if any new updates have taken place | 23:10 |
| bacteu | not really | 23:12 |
| bacteu | I mean, of course there's been updates | 23:12 |
| bacteu | but.. you know.. | 23:12 |
| proxypirate | Nothing too significant | 23:12 |
| proxypirate | Ubuntu touch was one of thr reasons I went out and bought the nexus 7 flo | 23:14 |
| proxypirate | I cant wait till it is 100% | 23:14 |
| proxypirate | I am now debating whether or not to buy the nexus 5 or the htc one m8 | 23:15 |
| proxypirate | the nexus 5 has ubuntu touch available right? | 23:15 |
| bacteu | the nexus 5 would be about half the price I'd imagine | 23:15 |
| bacteu | proxypirate: no official builds yet, but there's community builds | 23:15 |
| proxypirate | For nexus 5? | 23:16 |
| bacteu | yes | 23:16 |
| proxypirate | Ya...the nexus 5 is a great phone but I would order the 32Gb from google since none of the US wireless carriers are offering the 32gb model in stores | 23:17 |
| proxypirate | the htc m8 comes with 32gb internal storage and has takes sdcards up to 128gb | 23:17 |
| proxypirate | But there is way more available for the nexus 5... | 23:18 |
| proxypirate | Decisions decisions | 23:18 |
| Randy_O | I'm trying to run a QML app on my nexus 4 and I've been getting this error "/usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_run_app finished with code 255" This has worked before, suddenly stopped | 23:26 |
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