[02:34] <Thorondor> Elleo: Interesting discussion the one you pointed out. Unfortunately it seems it didn't settle into a plan of actions. However somone suggested separating app into daemon/UI components and seemd to me that this is possible as of today. Not sure though.
[02:35] <dobey> Thorondor: for IM? i think there is already a telepathy daemon running in the background
[02:38] <Thorondor> dobey: In that case it should be possible to get access to multiple Messaging services by using it, and we just need to connect the messaging app to it in a way that everytime the app gets the focus it shows you the state of your active IM services. However we would need a notification callback to handle new messages too.
[02:39] <dobey> Thorondor: i'm pretty sure there is already some sort of notification support for sms, the same should be used for im
[02:39] <Thorondor> dobey: Sure
[02:44] <Thorondor> dobey: Do you know how can I writ ethe pipe character in the terminal app on touch?
[02:44] <Thorondor> I want to check if there's *telepathy* running
[02:45] <Thorondor> ps -A|grep telepathy
[02:48] <dobey> no idea
[02:48] <Thorondor> hehe, there's a lot to improve :)
[02:48] <Thorondor> I think only CTRL+ signals are handled right now
[02:49] <Thorondor> The keyboard for terminal should have a special layout
[02:49] <Thorondor> By the way, there's a telepathy-mission-control package
[02:49] <Thorondor> So, as you said it should be running back there
[02:50] <dobey> why not use adb shell and do ps afx in there?
[03:10] <Thorondor> dobey: Because I'm just learning Ubuntu touch, I first try what I'm used to use. Thanks for the suggestion
[03:12] <dobey> Thorondor: you've developed any apps for android before?
[03:16] <Thorondor> My first phone is my current nexus 4, and I bought it because I believe Ubuntu Touch is what I want to use. So I'm just starting in this context. Didn't want to try Android for development.
[03:18] <Thorondor> I don't want a phone, I want a portable computer with ubuntu and phone capabilities
[03:20] <dobey> Ah. Well, the full convergence story is a long way off.
[03:21] <Thorondor> Yeah, but it seems like a good moment to start playing with it
[03:22] <Thorondor> Solving IM and mail client, I can try to use it regularly
[03:22] <Thorondor> then push for power consumption
[03:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, :D
[03:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, the ui is fantastic. I can't wait to get my first official device.
[03:43] <Thorondor> Aki-Thinkpad: Yes, it looks pretty good. I still don't like the white background, but for sure could be customized.
[03:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, oh they will probably include a high contrast theme, and a darker background
[03:43] <Thorondor> I like dark background, saves battery too
[03:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, do you know how to get started in app development? I don't mind walking you through the basics
[03:45] <Thorondor> Well, I have been reading a bit. But didn't go to the details yet. I already got a branch from messaging-app in my pc
[03:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, yah you are probably fine :P
[03:46] <Thorondor> I have to see how the croxx compiling is being done
[03:46] <Thorondor> cross compiling
[03:46] <Thorondor> and the procedure to get my experimental code tested on my device
[03:47] <Thorondor> I have the feeling that things are not being done the same way it works on the desktop
[03:48] <Thorondor> I'll have to give the IDE a try
[03:55] <Thorondor> So, in summary: We have a telepathy daemon running on the phone already. The phone-app is a telepathy client app and so has to be the messaging-app to handle IM. So I should try to enhance messaging app to be a generig IM app.
[03:56] <Thorondor> Time to sleep now, but seems like I have a plan to go. Nest move would be to take a look at the recommended development flow from code to test on the target device (nexus 4)
[03:57] <Thorondor> Thanks a lot guys for the feedback and help
[03:57] <Thorondor> Aki-Thinkpad: Thanks for the help offer. I'll remember that if I got any issues trying to follow the development flow.
[03:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, If I can, i'll help :P
[03:58] <Aki-Thinkpad> i am far from expert
[03:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> Thorondor, please though come hang out in #ubuntu-app-devel
[03:59] <Thorondor> It doesn't matter. It's just about getting the different bits of knowledge together and make it work. I'm just starting to document myself about the touch development model.
[04:00] <Thorondor> Aki-Thinkpad: Ok, I will thanks
[04:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> o/
[04:01] <Thorondor> Ok, Good Night
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu touch has new image togheter with trusty release?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> i would like to retry it on my nexus7
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> can someone confirm if flip horizontal have been fixxed on ubuntu-touch on nexus7??
[04:53] <wponso> i am new here and wanna use ubuntu touch in Iron Rock Motorola Iden/3G device
[04:54] <wponso> does anyone could send me more information about??
[04:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, have you checked the ubuntu devices wiki?
[04:55] <wponso> Yes, Aki, but I cant find information about the Iden part
[04:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices
[04:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> Iden?
[04:55] <wponso> Iden is the Nextel type of carrier phone
[04:55] <wponso> there are GSM, WCDMA and nothing abonut Iden
[04:56] <wponso> Iron Rock = XT626 Morotola
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> will this guide install latest touch on my nexus? http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-touch-nexus-7-2013/
[04:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, I am no expert here, so take this with a grain of salt
[04:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, but I do not think anyone has made an image for your device yet
[04:57] <Aki-Thinkpad> ie, if you want to get ubuntu touch working on that phone, it looks like you will have to port it yourself
[04:58] <wponso> Yes Aki, I know that anyone done this, but If I have more document about, I can start this
[04:58] <wponso> ...and share it :D
[04:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, I would start by finding the android version code name for your device
[04:59] <wponso> Android 2.3
[04:59] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, for my own part, I tried porting a later release for a nook tablet, but found myself overwhelmed with the complexity
[05:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, that is not what I mean.
[05:00] <wponso> sure
[05:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, every device has a code name
[05:00] <wponso> Wait a little minute
[05:00] <wponso> Ginger Bread
[05:00] <Aki-Thinkpad> *facepalm*
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> nope, thats not what I mean either
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> :P
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> here
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad>  Galaxy Nexus
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> 	
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> maguro (GSM/HSPA+ Variant)
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> Nexus 4
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> 	
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> mako
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> Nexus 7
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> 	
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> grouper
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> Nexus 10
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> 	
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> manta
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> ergo, galaxy nexus == maguro
[05:01] <Aki-Thinkpad> nexus4 == mako
[05:01] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad: did you test the nex touch yet?
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> new
[05:02] <wponso> I thing that I need some drivers to get the succesfull port
[05:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, not yet. I don't have a device to even use it on.
[05:02] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad: ok tnx im gonna retry it then
[05:02] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, do you have any experience with android and its kernel?
[05:02] <wponso> no I am not test the new touch, I wann try with this device
[05:03] <wponso> I ported other devices to new android versions, but never try with Ubuntu
[05:03] <wponso> tryed
[05:03] <wponso> tried, sorry
[05:03] <wponso> :)
[05:04] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, well that is a start. XDA forums might be a good place to start, or askubuntu
[05:04] <wponso> XDA has fell documents about ubuntu, more about Android.
[05:04] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, Its complicated; I gave up, and that was with an existing image.
[05:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> But I have little patience for documentation
[05:05] <Aki-Thinkpad> Anyways, good luck; I need to get back to work on my app :p
[05:06] <wponso> ok, I will try contact with askubuntu, but my impression is that they don't share many information about
[05:06] <wponso> tks for patience and time
[05:06] <wponso> good lucky
[05:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, askubuntu is pretty good, but you have to know how to ask.
[05:12] <Aki-Thinkpad> wponso, and you can put bounties on your question
[05:13] <wponso> I will try, but I found old solutions out of UbuntuAsk, in the past. Some of theese questions was ignored (it was my impression). But I will try (I am doing this now)
[05:22] <wponso> Hey Aki, that is my post http://askubuntu.com/questions/451117/porting-ubuntu-touch-on-motorola-xt624-iron-rock
[06:41] <nerve2009> hii.. i want to put the ubuntu touch on my samsung galaxy note n7000. i have followed the guide at ubuntu wiki as they provide.. the problem is, i can't boot my device (hold power button + volume down + home)
[07:32] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to install new ubuntu touch?
[07:33] <lotuspsychje> wiki shows the developing version
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> this is what i get on my nexus7
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@RooTBoX:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 09:38:44 Device is |flo|
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 09:38:45 Flashing version 302 from trusty channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 09:39:10 Get https://system-image.ubuntu.com/gpg/image-master.tar.xz.asc: EOF
[08:11] <j_huddle> Hi there, I'm wondering if anyone can help me anwer a few questions about device compatibility...
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> they always leave so quickly
[13:32] <lotuspsychje> whats the command to install the new ubuntu-touch? wiki shows still the dev version
[13:33] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, report that as a bug.
[13:34] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntudeveloperportal
[13:35] <Aki-Thinkpad> presuming that it is outdated
[13:35] <lotuspsychje> well im not sure
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> cant find any tutorial on the new touch version
[13:36] <Aki-Thinkpad> lotuspsychje, why not just download the dev version?
[13:36] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad, ive tested the dev version already
[13:36] <Aki-Thinkpad> o_O
[13:37] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad, thats not the same as new ubuntu touch right?
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> :)
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> don't know. I am assuming (not an expert here), that no stable release will be made until they get it on the phone.
[13:37] <Aki-Thinkpad> their bq phones etc
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> Aki-Thinkpad, i found articles about they released a new ubuntu touch
[13:38] <lotuspsychje> togheter with 14.04
[13:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> shows you what I know~
[13:38] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: it's just a matter of setting what channel you want with ubuntu-device-flash, e.g. --channel=stable (or --channel=trusty) will give you stable, --channel=devel will give you devel and --channel=devel-proposed will give you the most experimental images
[13:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> oh interesting
[13:39] <Elleo> you won't see much difference between devel and stable at the moment though, I think they're probably the same image since I don't think anything has been promoted to devel since the release
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, do you know if the new version fixxed horizontal flip?
[13:39] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: in what way?
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, yes but the image has changed then the image from few weeks ago right?
[13:39] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: yes
[13:39] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, ive installed ubuntu touch dev version on my nexus7 weeks ago
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, so the plan is to test the newer version right now
[13:40] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, but the guide to install i followed, didnt work anymore
[13:40] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: what about it didn't work?
[13:41] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install is pretty much the definitive guide
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, after the command to download, it failed on me
[13:41] <lotuspsychje> http://itsfoss.com/install-ubuntu-touch-nexus-7-2013/
[13:42] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, after this line: ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap
[13:42] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: if you've already got an image you don't want to follow those instructions
[13:42] <Elleo> those are for setting up a clean image
[13:42] <Elleo> just "ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty" is enough
[13:43] <lotuspsychje> gave me aok lemme retry that one holdon
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, and that will install latest trusty image right?
[13:44] <Elleo> yes
[13:44] <lotuspsychje> ok tnx :p
[13:44] <Elleo> although if you're interested in testing the latest (relatively stable) stuff in the future you'll want to flash the devel channel
[13:45] <Elleo> the trusty image won't change much from this point since it's "stable" now
[13:45] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, i wanna try the most stable release that came out togheter with trusty
[13:45] <Elleo> (at the moment trusty and devel are identical, but that won't be the case when people start working again next week)
[13:46] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, isnt there an update function after from terminal?
[13:46] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: there's a gui update function in the system settings
[13:46] <Elleo> iirc it only works if you don't enable a writable image
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> ic
[13:47] <Elleo> but the trusty image won't be changing any more, so the next update on that channel will be in (presumably) 6 months time with the next release
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> thats np
[13:47] <lotuspsychje> if i can see the renewed touch ill be glad
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ adb reboot bootloader
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 15:49:57 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface...
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 15:49:57 exit status 255
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> this is what i get
[13:51] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: is your device booted up and connected?
[13:52] <Elleo> it should just be running normal in UT
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, oh ok
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> from android?
[13:52] <Elleo> no, Ubuntu Touch
[13:52] <lotuspsychje> i dont have touch installed on it yet
[13:52] <Elleo> ah, sorry, when you said you'd installed an earlier image I assumed you still had it installed
[13:53] <Elleo> in that case you do want the --bootstrap option
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> ok
[13:53] <Elleo> and yes, you want to be in android at the time
[13:53] <lotuspsychje> lets try :p
[13:54] <Elleo> oh no hang on
[13:54] <Elleo> for bootstrap you need to be in the bootloader
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> yes thats where i go
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> adb reboot bootloader
[13:54] <Elleo> is the bootloader unlocked?
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> yes
[13:54] <Elleo> and the device is in usb debugging mode?
[13:54] <lotuspsychje> yes :p
[13:54] <Elleo> in that case I don't know why it's not being detected by adb
[13:55] <Elleo> best thing I can suggest is to run through the steps here and see if there's anything you might have missed/those other instructions missed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> yesss
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> there it goes
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 15:55:38 Expecting the device to be in the bootloader... waiting
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 15:55:38 Device is |flo|
[13:55] <lotuspsychje> 2014/04/20 15:55:39 Flashing version 302 from trusty channel and server https://system-image.ubuntu.com to device flo
[13:56] <Elleo> ah, cool
[13:56] <lotuspsychje> so channel trusty would be the latest stable 14.04 touch version?
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> and channel dev the develope version?
[13:57] <Elleo> yes
[13:57] <lotuspsychje> there are so many folders on that index
[13:58] <Elleo> the basic procedure at the moment is that work happens in "devel-proposed", then if it doesn't fail too many import tests it gets promoted to "devel", then every ~6 months the latest "devel" image gets promoted to the "stable" channel
[13:58] <Elleo> I would suspect that might change a bit once consumer releases are available, as there might well be ongoing maintenance work on the "stable" channel or something too, but I'm just guessing there
[13:58] <lotuspsychje> i see, every folder new stage
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> well you guys done great work, congrats for that
[14:00] <Elleo> :)
[14:00] <lotuspsychje> it can only get better the comming time
[14:02] <lotuspsychje> i dont wanna get stuck on insecure android
[14:06] <lotuspsychje> ok downloading done and showing purple ubuntu screen
[14:07] <Elleo> first boot will take a while
[14:08] <lotuspsychje> ubuntu wheel turning :p
[14:13] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, it worked mate tnx alot!
[14:13] <Elleo> great :)
[14:15] <lotuspsychje> looking good :p
[14:16] <lotuspsychje> much smoother then last image
[14:25] <Elleo> good
[14:25] <lotuspsychje> it might be interesting to share that to users somehow Elleo
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> that ubuntu-device-flash --channel=trusty --bootstrap
[14:26] <Elleo> well it's pretty much all on the wiki page, althought perhaps not as well explained as it could be
[14:26] <Elleo> although*
[14:26] <lotuspsychje> i only saw a few video's on youtube running the new image yet
[14:26] <Elleo> the focus there is on getting people on to the devel image since that's where most new stuff happens
[14:27] <lotuspsychje> ah i understand
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> so channel=devel with also get latest 'test' version of the renewed trusty right?
[14:28] <lotuspsychje> and from there users can help the community?
[14:29] <Elleo> yeah, pretty much
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> tnx alot for the clear info :p
[14:30] <lotuspsychje> happy nexus user now here
[14:30] <Elleo> good :)
[14:31] <lotuspsychje> is it possible to install classic terminal packages as nmap or so?
[14:32] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: yep, if you switch to having a writable image by doing "phablet-config writable-image"
[14:32] <Elleo> you can then just do "sudo apt-get install nmap"
[14:32] <Elleo> (default password is "phablet")
[14:32] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, can i add that phablet line in terminal?
[14:33] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: you need to do that from your desktop machine
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> ah okay
[14:33] <Elleo> (with the tablet/phone attached via usb)
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> and can i change the default root pass?
[14:33] <Elleo> yep
[14:33] <lotuspsychje> nicely
[14:34] <lotuspsychje> installing phablet-tools :p
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> lotuspsychje@R00TB00K:~$ phablet-config writable-image
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> PING launchpad.net (91.189.89.222) 56(84) bytes of data.
[14:40] <lotuspsychje> worked
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> and my new trusty desktop shows nexus icon mounted
[14:41] <lotuspsychje> thats sweet
[14:44] <Elleo> :)
[14:47] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, phablet worked as root, now how do i change root pass?
[14:48] <Elleo> lotuspsychje: just run passwd as phablet
[14:48] <lotuspsychje> lets see
[14:48] <Elleo> there isn't a root password as such, since it's using sudo
[14:48] <Elleo> so it authenticates phablet as root via phablet's own password (just like on desktop Ubuntu)
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> passwd: password update succesfully
[14:49] <lotuspsychje> :p
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> and installing nmap
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> yes yes
[14:50] <lotuspsychje> Elleo, your the lifesaver of the day :p
[14:51] <Elleo> glad to be of help :)
[14:51] <lotuspsychje> :p
[18:12] <echoe> How does ubuntu touch perform on the nexus 7 let, anyone know?
[18:12] <echoe> I mean lte
[18:12] <Tassadar> the 2013 version?
[18:13] <echoe> Yeah.
[18:13] <Tassadar> only the wifi version is officialy supported, and it works pretty well on it
[18:14] <echoe> I have it on a nexus 4 and it's ... Disappointing right now. ...... oh, well then
[18:14] <Tassadar> I maintain unofficial server with daily builds for the lte version, and the mobile data work on it
[18:14] <Tassadar> it's not gonna work better than n4
[18:14] <echoe> alas. Thanks for the answer though.
[18:14] <Tassadar> the OS is still very much in development, so yeah
[18:15] <echoe> Yeah ... I heard summer was the target for a usable daily driver?
[18:16] <echoe> Hopefully it'll be much better in a few months :)
[18:16] <Tassadar> "daily driver" is rather relative term
[18:16] <Tassadar> many people here use it daily and are fine with it, but for me it's not there yet
[18:21] <bacteu> I suppose if you use it daily you forget how much more responsive android is in comparison
[19:30] <echoe> it really is relative. Idk, I have an iphone so it would have to do a lot. :p
[19:38] <bacteu> echoe: iphones do what they do well. Maybe once ubuntu touch moves beyond just basic smartphone stuff and onto the meaty stuff like docking it will become interesting
[19:39] <echoe> definitely. I mean, first one would hope they can work on the keyboard a bit ... idk. Maybe I'll look into it and can code ubuntu touch swype. x.x and make it so the keyboard doesn't hang out so much or at least has a button to close ...
[19:41] <Tassadar> in my opinion, it is a bit unfair to compare ubuntu touch, which doesn't even have it's own device released, with systems which have been out for years right now
[19:42] <bacteu> meh, all it would have to take is canonical to license myriad's alien dalvik like jolla are doing or implement their own.. and boom ubuntu had android apps
[19:42] <Elleo> echoe: you can close the keyboard by swiping down from the top of it
[19:44] <bacteu> imo ubuntu should have gone with more of a softkey approach rather than the guestures
[19:44] <bacteu> I'm not really sold
[19:59] <dobey> bacteu: eh, gestures are fine as long as they're done right. softkeys tend to be a pain. for webos for example has all the gestures pretty much perfect
[19:59] <bacteu> has canonical hired anyone who worked on webos?
[20:00] <bacteu> or did google grab them all?
[20:03] <dobey> i don't know if anyone who worked on webos works at canonical (i didn't personally know anyone that worked on webos, at least afaik)
[20:06] <bacteu> dobey: Matias Duarte comes to mind.
[20:07] <dobey> i don't know him
[20:07] <bacteu> hes the guy behind android's current look
[20:08] <dobey> ok
[20:10] <echoe> It would be nice if there were more hints built into the is about how to do things
[20:10] <echoe> *os
[20:10] <dobey> in android?
[20:11] <echoe> Like, is there a way to close an open process in ubuntu?
[20:11] <echoe> No, in ubuntu touch
[20:11] <dobey> swipe all the way across the screen from the left edge, long press on the app under "Recent" in the apps scope, and then press on the [x] that shows up
[20:29] <echoe> See I thought I could flick them away like webos
[20:29] <echoe> I'll try that when I get home ...
[20:47] <lakin> So I know the instructions here - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install - say that it can take a long time, but how long should I be staring at a spinning ubuntu logo with an orange progress bar?  It's already been about 2 hours.
[20:49] <lakin> The terminal where I issued the `ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel --bootstrap` command has long since given me back my control so it doesn't seem as if my box is actively doing anything with the device. (A nexus 7 2013 if that matters)
[22:00] <lakin> Ok, using the recovery to wipe/format /data and the cache and then trying again worked. :)
[23:07] <proxypirate> Hello ubuntu-touch users!
[23:09] <proxypirate> Hey guys so I have ubuntu touch on my nexus 7 flo model tablet....but what I am wonder is if ubuntu touch is still being updated?
[23:10] <proxypirate>  I installed ubuntu touch about 1.5 months ago so I want to know if I download ubuntu touch and flash it again if any new updates have taken place
[23:12] <bacteu> not really
[23:12] <bacteu> I mean, of course there's been updates
[23:12] <bacteu> but.. you know..
[23:12] <proxypirate> Nothing too significant
[23:14] <proxypirate> Ubuntu touch was one of thr reasons I went out and bought the nexus 7 flo
[23:14] <proxypirate> I cant wait till it is 100%
[23:15] <proxypirate>  I am now debating whether or not to buy the nexus 5 or the htc one m8
[23:15] <proxypirate> the nexus 5 has ubuntu touch available right?
[23:15] <bacteu> the nexus 5 would be about half the price I'd imagine
[23:15] <bacteu> proxypirate: no official builds yet, but there's community builds
[23:16] <proxypirate> For nexus 5?
[23:16] <bacteu> yes
[23:17] <proxypirate>  Ya...the nexus 5 is a great phone but I would order the 32Gb from google since none of the US wireless carriers are offering the 32gb model in stores
[23:17] <proxypirate> the htc m8 comes with 32gb internal storage and has takes sdcards up to 128gb
[23:18] <proxypirate> But there is way more available for the nexus 5...
[23:18] <proxypirate> Decisions decisions
[23:26] <Randy_O> I'm trying to run a QML app on my nexus 4 and I've been getting this error "/usr/share/qtcreator/ubuntu/scripts/qtc_device_run_app finished with code 255" This has worked before, suddenly stopped