[00:00] <euryale> ok i will try it now.
[00:00] <euryale> thanks.
[00:00] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, I'll do some looking with you to see if anything can be dug up. :)
[00:00] <nf7> Could someone help me? I follow this guide: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-mac-osx , but my stick doesn't appear in the list of bootable devices when I boot my Mac. It will work on a regular PC though. And I am using the 14.04+Mac version of the iso.
[00:00] <Tunix> minimec: i used that shitty drivers around 2004/2005
[00:00] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, much appreciated. I'm truly stumped by it.
[00:00] <minimec> euryale: To be sure you can reconfigure the xserver-xorg. The command will do everything for you.
[00:01] <euryale> so u recommend reconfiguring 1st before the purge?
[00:01] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, haha, I bet. I've had my share of stumps with Ubuntu. But thanks to the community, my problems have been solved.
[00:01] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, you are running 14.04, correct?
[00:01] <adam_____> crocket: any luck?
[00:01] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, correct, just upgraded (clean install) from 12.04
[00:02] <euryale> @minimec. so u recommend reconfiguring 1st before the purge?
[00:02] <Tunix> minimec: i actually disasselbled them (in part) to send meaningful bug reports
[00:02] <minimec> Tunix: I got a amd x1250 CPU/GPU combo once, and 4 month later amd decided to drop fglrx support for the GPU... That did it for me! No more AMD anymore!
[00:02] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, Thanks. And what is the first version of Ubuntu that was installed on you pc, if you remember?
[00:03] <adam_____> time estimates on the upgrade downloads are frustrating.. started saying 1day 17hours, now is zooming along saying 8 mins left o_O
[00:03] <k1l_> adam_____: depends on the real connection speed it gets. if it starts very slow it will calculate with that slow speed
[00:04] <minimec> euryale: First purge!
[00:04] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, that particular one has only ever run 12.04 but this afternoon I formatted the drive and installed 14.04
[00:04] <euryale> ok. what is the line again?
[00:04] <minimec> euryale: But you shouldn't need the 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' command.
[00:05] <MHodge> tylerburtonca, okay. And you are on the original Ubuntu or Xubuntu, etc?
[00:05] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, ubuntu
[00:05] <minimec> euryale: sudo apt-get purge fglrx
[00:05] <euryale> no the purge. apt-get purge flgrx?
[00:05] <adam_____> k1l_: seems to change for each lib
[00:05] <etecan> hi, is there a way to browse files from a android phone from the terminal?
[00:05] <euryale> unable to locate package fglrx
[00:05] <adam_____> it's now up to 33 mins left
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: So it's not installed...
[00:06] <xar-> etecan: yes
[00:06] <adam_____> reminds me of Windows progress bars :)
[00:06] <etecan> xar-: how can I do it?
[00:06] <euryale> i intalled it via terminal .run file
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: You are not using the fglrx driver...
[00:06] <minimec> euryale: Oh ok.
[00:06] <euryale> minimac: what should i do now?
[00:07] <adam_____> 4mins left until I get a new OS :) :) :)
[00:07] <minimec> euryale: Is there an uninstall option flag maybe? I normally recommend to use the package provided by ubuntu or maybe the xorg edgers ppa.
[00:07] <adam_____> now .. 9 mins..
[00:08] <etecan> xar- If you can explain me please :) I'm not finding the correct path
[00:08] <adam_____> anyone know how long their upgrade took on an SSD once all the files were downloaded?
[00:08] <Leo_Verto> windows progress estimation is just horrible
[00:08] <AP-> hi guys, in gnome 2 i could set per-app themes & font sizes etc with gtkrc2. Is there such a substitute in gnome 3? Or could somebody recommend an alternative desktop environment where this is possible. Thank you
[00:08] <euryale> minimac: maybe, but i don't know where to locate that.
[00:08] <Tunix> AP-: xfce
[00:08] <minimec> euryale: Neither do I... ;)
[00:09] <AP-> Tunix, does this permit setting of themes per application?
[00:09] <euryale> minimac: im s___t out of luck :)
[00:09] <MHodge> tylerburtonca: You know what's funny? I can only seem to find fixes for Xubuntu. :O
[00:10] <AP-> I wonder if the gtk2 per-app theming possibilities still exist with mint mate
[00:10] <xar-> etecan: busy right now sorry, i just know its possible
[00:10] <euryale> minimac: ok here im browsing on my phone, i hope this one works :)
[00:11] <etecan> xar-: No problem, I'll keep searching on the web then
[00:11] <NoSkillDwnload> hello guys! i have a problem with the new 14.04LTS
[00:11] <batse> m
[00:11] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, what's your problem?
[00:11] <MHodge> :)
[00:11] <minimec> euryale: Well basically you could just 'sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg-fglrx.conf' and then 'sudo reboot'. It should then use the default driver again, but the driver would still be installed but not used
[00:11] <NoSkillDwnload> i cant access openvpn via networkmanager anymore. It always crashes when i am loading the config
[00:12] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, do you have the original Ubuntu install or Xubuntu, etc?
[00:12] <NoSkillDwnload> I have the original Ubuntu with unity
[00:13] <AP-> kde looks as ugly as ever >_>
[00:13] <minimec> euryale: the xorg.conf file just contains the fglrx configuration. Without such a file Ubuntu falls back to the default driver....
[00:13] <AP-> somebody please kill it with fire :D
[00:13] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, thanks! I'll see what I can dig up for you. tylerburtonca: I'm also still looking for a solution for you.
[00:13] <euryale> minimec: i have located it. its in /usr/share/ati/
[00:13] <Leo_Verto> I like Unity because it's a lot different to the windows approach of things
[00:13] <elid> Hey, I'm on 13.10 (amd64) and I want to upgrade to 14.04, but Software Updater says that my computer is up to date, also apt-get update and apt-get upgrade don't help. Suggestions?
[00:13] <NoSkillDwnload> Thanks mate!
[00:13] <Leo_Verto> and menu bars on the sides are actually very efficient
[00:14] <Leo_Verto> elid, have you tried apt-get dist-upgrade?
[00:14] <elid> Leo_Verto: No, lemme try and I'll get back then.
[00:14] <Barridus> the command to update 12.04 server to 14.04 is do-release upgrade, right?
[00:15] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, yeah I also saw those Xubuntu fixes as well but also saw them breaking some installs so I didn't want to try it
[00:15] <adam_____> Barridus: yup
[00:15] <tux_> hi people i have 13.10  and love it .the issues is that a college in az doesnt support linux how can i make it work so there will be no issues
[00:15] <macscam1> if i am running ubuntu with unity, is it possible to get gnome software?
[00:15] <elid> Leo_Verto It says "Calculating upgrade... Done", and exits
[00:15] <adam_____> Barridus: as root
[00:15] <adam_____> elid: read above.. any errors?
[00:16] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, have you tried uninstalling and then reinstalling?
[00:16] <NoSkillDwnload> yes
[00:16] <tylerburtonca> MHodge, back in a bit
[00:16] <elid> adam_____: Nope
[00:17] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, hmm... That may be a bug on your system. I'll do some looking to see if others have issues with this.
[00:17] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, In the mean time, I'll continue to look.
[00:17] <adam_____> elid: do "sudo do-release
[00:17] <minimec> euryale: moving the xorg.conf file would be my first choice. If the system is running you might then delete that ati folder or (better) check for an uninstall option of that fglrx binary driver you used.
[00:17] <adam_____> do "sudo do-release-update"
[00:18] <Barridus> adam_____: oh never mind, it needs -d until the .1 release, i forgot
[00:18] <NoSkillDwnload> lol i am stuck in the desktop swithcer. I have activated the ambience theme and now i cant switch back into the desktops
[00:18] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, just for future reference, do sudo apt-get update. :)
[00:18] <Tunix> AP-: xfce apps use gtk2 so i guess it is possible
[00:18] <macscam1> can someone explain... am i running gnome and unity at the same time in ubuntu 14?
[00:18] <macscam1> with the default
[00:19] <adam_____> Barridus: :)
[00:19] <elid> adam_____: It says command not found
[00:19] <minimec> euryale: Simply deleting the ATI folder will NOT work, because you still have that xorg.conf file in place.
[00:19] <adam_____> elid: upgrade
[00:19] <adam_____> not update.. oops
[00:19] <elid> adam_____: It's okay, it seems to be working
[00:20] <elid> adam_____: No new release found
[00:20] <adam_____> weird
[00:20] <adam_____> do a sudo apt-get update
[00:20] <adam_____> then try again
[00:20] <euryale> minimec: i did reinstall xorg and configure xorg.
[00:20] <elid> adam_____: I'll get back once it's done
[00:20] <euryale> i hope this works, will now reboot.
[00:21] <Barridus> once this update's over, i need to figure out why init.d stuff i've googled isn't helping make a service start automatically
[00:21] <adam_____> downloads finished on my 14.04 upgrade. unpacking now
[00:22] <adam_____> have to switch to my tablet soon
[00:22] <elid> adam____ ok
[00:22] <adam_____> worked?
[00:22] <minimec> euryale: Again... Check if you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf and rename/delete it (if present). Otherwise your system wil not boot. Altough the xorg reconfiguration you did might have done it for you.
[00:22] <NoSkillDwnload> back. Had to restart
[00:23] <minimec> euryale: Well it will boot but not in graphical mode...
[00:23] <euryale> minimec: im back and in graphical mode, it worked.
[00:23] <MHodge> NoSkillDwnload, Welcome Back!
[00:23] <minimec> euryale: Heureka ;)
[00:23] <euryale> :D
[00:24] <crocket> Hello
[00:24] <crocket> adam_____, ppa-purge was enough.
[00:24] <elid> adam_____: OK it's checking
[00:24] <euryale> i did uninstall the uninstall.sh  and purge fglrx and then remove xorg.conf and reinstall xorg and then configure xorg then reboot.
[00:24] <minimec> euryale: Now check for an uninstall option of the AMD binary driver you downloaded. It might conflict with some later installation of a fglrx ubuntu deb package.
[00:24] <MHodge> Must restart. I'll be back.
[00:25] <adam_____> crocket: good to hear
[00:25] <euryale> ok
[00:25] <crocket> I'm now upgrading.
[00:25] <AnthonyUK> I'm going back to 12.04 for now
[00:25] <elid> adam_____: It's working I think
[00:26] <Leo_Verto> AnthonyUK, 12.04, really?
[00:26] <adam_____> elid: nice
[00:26] <AnthonyUK> Yeh cant get a bunch of stuff to work that I could in12.04
[00:26] <adam_____> mine is chugging along
[00:26] <elid> adam_____: thanks for the help :)
[00:26] <AnthonyUK> think i will wait half a year til all the issues are fixed
[00:26] <adam_____> elid: not much I did, but you're welcome! :)
[00:26] <lagbox> 13.04 13.10 ?
[00:26] <euryale> minimec: it completely removed.
[00:27] <elid> adam_____: Well, for the commands
[00:27] <adam_____> cheers!
[00:27] <elid> adam_____: I wouldn't have figured that out myself
[00:27] <elid> close
[00:27] <minimec> euryale: Well done!
[00:27] <elid> oops
[00:28] <lordp> Is there a place I can lodge a bug for commands missing from a package in 14.04?
[00:28] <rww> lordp: which commands, which package?
[00:30] <euryale> minimec: thanks! :)
[00:30] <lordp> rww: tesseract-ocr amd64, missing a number of commands used for training, but it's got the man pages for them
[00:31] <minimec> euryale: No problem.
[00:31] <lordp> Not sure if the x86 package is affected as well
[00:31] <lordp> Version 3.03.02-3
[00:33] <rww> lordp: looks like that package is pulled from Debian, and the Debian version has that problem fixed: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=742029
[00:33] <rww> lordp: ubuntu-bug tesseract-ocr should get you to the right page for a bug report in Ubuntu
[00:34] <SKELETR0N> what can I use to install a .deb?
[00:34] <lordp> rww: ok, thanks
[00:35] <freshman> exit
[00:36] <litropy> on 13.10, what is the command to reset the menu bar (the one with the time and menus)?
[00:36] <minimec> SKELETR0N: local -> dpkg, repository apt-get/aptitude. All these are terminal programs.
[00:39] <tracyone> How can I send  photos+text to facebook、twitter and sina weibo(or any other social website) at the same time in firefox?
[00:39] <Slart> SKELETR0N: I think if you just open it in the gui you end up in the software installer app.. it installs from there too, just like the regular repository stuff
[00:41] <SKELETR0N> thanks minimec and slart
[00:44] <UrielVigilant> Why this dont work with lubuntu 14.04 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280245/  and always work with 13.10,  then someone here sugested me another thing http://paste.ubuntu.com/7280359/  but that dont work too. Why? Please give me a solution!
[00:45] <litropy> My menus and the time and everything in the bar is gone, but the bar remains. I did a setsid unity &, and I'm getting Calling method "Sync" on object path: "/com/canonical/Unity/Panel/Service" failed: Timeout was reached
[00:45] <pnorman> With apt-get you can tell it to install a particular version of a package with the install pkg=pkg_version_number syntax. Is there a way to tell it to install a package with at *least* a particular version? I want an apt-get line that will install the software *only* if its recent enough
[00:47] <minimec> pnorman: The bcmwl-kernel-source package only exists in 13.10, so no need to purge it... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=bcmwl-kernel-source&searchon=names&suite=saucy&section=all
[00:48] <minimec> pnorman: Same thong for the firmware package... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=linux-firmware-nonfree&searchon=names
[00:49] <c2tarun> Guys, Ubuntu 14.04 is aweeeeesome, its fast, light, smooth and most important, I am able to mount Nexus 7 and Iphone 5 (IOS7) out of the box without any changes :D :D
[00:49] <minimec> pnorman: So your tutorial is outdated...
[00:49] <tracyone> Can I change the default music search engine in  dash??how?
[00:50] <minimec> c2tarun: I agree. I am quiet happy with this release too ...
[00:51] <hexafraction> How long does it usually take for a new Java major version to land? Until the next Ubuntu release?
[00:51] <tracyone> hexafraction: I think so
[00:52] <SKELETR0N> im trying to get teamviewer for ubuntu running, but its saying theres an error with lib32asound2 dependency not being satisfiable. does anyone know if there's a way around this? apt-get install lib32asound2 wasnt an available package
[00:52] <Logan_> c2tarun: :)
[00:52] <SonikkuAmerica> SKELET0R: Version please?
[00:52] <hexafraction> OK. If I want to target Ubuntu on a java 8 FOSS project does that imply I'mgoing to have to force users to use PPAs?
[00:52] <pnorman> mimor: uh... bcmwl-kernel-source?
[00:53] <SKELETR0N> 13.10
[00:53] <pnorman> minimec: ^
[00:53] <SonikkuAmerica> SKELETR0N: (Lol, is that another nick of yours, SKELET0R ?)
[00:53] <Logan_> hexafraction: forcing people to use Java 8 may significantly limit your userbase
[00:53] <Logan_> (for now)
[00:53] <SKELETR0N> yeah thats my desktop
[00:54] <hexafraction> True...
[00:54] <pnorman> minimec: I'm not doing anything with 13.10, firmware, bcmwl, or the kernel
[00:54] <minimec> SKELETR0N: There is no such package in the official repos... http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=saucy&section=all&arch=any&keywords=lib32asound2&searchon=names
[00:55] <SKELETR0N> minimec: could I install one of these instead? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libasound2
[00:57] <SKELETR0N> i guess i can try to build the 32 bit version for 64bit
[00:58] <nooby_> How do I add a "tag" to the logs produced by existing mod_security rules? I.e. I'd like to add "geo.country_code" to all existing log entries produced by rules that otherwise only say "detected xss", etc. Much obliged!
[01:00] <minimec> pnorman: Oups... My fault... You could apt-pin a working version from a versions of ubuntu in /etc/apt/preferences... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PinningHowto
[01:01] <pnorman> minimec: I don't want to pin a version, I want to have a minimum version when installing
[01:01] <johndropper> whats the page address for pasteing page output?
[01:02] <johndropper> ?
[01:02] <johndropper> anybody?
[01:02] <johndropper> ubuntu web page for pasting output?
[01:03] <pnorman> With a package you can have a Depends line with entries like libgdal1 (>= 1.9.0), which specifies a minimum version, which is basically what I want to do from the command line
[01:03] <minimec> pnorman: Well... Normally the newest version is taken, with some minor exeptions. I don't see the reason for your 'idea'...
[01:03] <pnorman> johndropper: see /topic
[01:03] <jellow> !pastebinit | johndropper
[01:05] <minimec> SKELETR0N: are you on 32bit or 64bit. Is that a deb package or a binary installer?
[01:06] <SKELETR0N> minimec: 64, its a .deb, i got it working by using the 32 and adding i386 architecture to dpkg
[01:07] <minimec> SKELETR0N: So you're fine now? Cool.
[01:07] <SKELETR0N> minimec: yeah thanks for checking, should have mentioned I got it running
[01:08] <adam_____> ok.. restarting.. 14.04, here I come!
[01:10] <adam_____> wow.. that was painless
[01:10] <adam_____> on 14.04.. woot!
[01:10] <tracyone> ?
[01:13] <minimec> johndropper: paste.ubuntu.com for example, or install the pastebinit package and do terminal commands like 'lspci | pastebinit' for example. You will then get a link to share directly in the terminal.
[01:17] <decci> In my workplace there is a computer with 60 or more users running Ubuntu 13.04 I am in charge of maintaining IT. If the computer fails I will have to rebuild the entire system again user by user (I have a backup copy of all the users' data). However this would take time and business would suffer.
[01:18] <rom1504> 14.04 broke my chinese font, how do i make it work again ?
[01:18] <decci> how to quickly create a copy of the entire system, a VMware fusion file would be great so that if anything happens the system can just be run off a virtual pc without major disruption
[01:18] <decci> All users keep all their data on the desktop not in any other folder (the files in other folders are all non-essential
[01:18] <RickK> I'm trying to install a kernel module for a Moschip MCS9922 PCIe serial port card but I can't the module to build. The build stops with an error that it can't find include/mca.h.  Mca.h does exist on my machine but apparently not where this source wants it. The source was originallwritten to support kernels 2.6.18 and up. I have Kubuntu 13.10 running kernel  3.11.0-19, x86_64. I have build-essential installed and have been
[01:18] <RickK> able to build other apps. Can anyone offer any advice?
[01:18] <decci> All users are password protected (though not encrypted) but it is the same password and I have it. The root password is different, and only I have it.
[01:18] <decci> What you suggest?
[01:18] <c2tarun> why am I not able to do split windows in nautilus? Did they remove it or we have to enable it from somewhere?
[01:19] <trism> c2tarun: removed
[01:20] <minimec> decci: 13.04 is NOT maintained anymore. You have to do a new setup or upgrade! The heartbeat bug for example is NOT fixed in 13.04. Do an upgrade!
[01:20] <trism> c2tarun: works in nemo though
[01:20] <decci> minimec: Surely
[01:20] <decci> minimec: What version I shall be using?
[01:20] <decci> minimec: to get rid of heartbleed bug
[01:20] <c2tarun> trism, what were they thinking?
[01:20] <rom1504> solved it by installing fonts-wqy-zenhei
[01:21] <minimec> decci: 14.04, as it is an LTS version. You will be good for another 5 years...
[01:21] <decci> minimec: okay
[01:22] <decci> minimec: What is your suggestion regarding saving the time rebuilding the server..
[01:22] <c2tarun> trism, this is exactly the reason why other distro users hate ubuntu. They are behaving like they are apple :(
[01:22] <trism> c2tarun: ubuntu didn't remove the code
[01:22] <minimec> decci: Install the openssh package of the 14.04 ubuntu distro as quickfix. But... I would consider a fresh 14.04 installation.
[01:22] <decci> minimec: I will do it ...within next few minutes
[01:23] <minimec> decci: backup the /home folder of that system. All the user data ist stored there.
[01:23] <decci> minimec: k
[01:23] <trism> c2tarun: I switched to nemo, has all the stuff removed from nautilus
[01:24] <BUBULLE> hi :)
[01:25] <c2tarun> trism, I thought ubuntu already used nautiluses code to personalise it and to use it in ubuntu
[01:25] <c2tarun> trism, and this personalized version is called Files.
[01:26] <johndropper> thanks
[01:26] <trism> c2tarun: all the removed code was in upstream gnome, it actually happened a long time ago but ubuntu shipped the old version for a while before upgrading
[01:27] <c2tarun> trism, so culprit it Gnome devs this time :X
[01:27] <justdave> in cleaning up from my 14.04 upgrade, I have a "gwibber" package left over.  It appears to be removed, but residual configuration, and attempting to completely remove it fails.
[01:27]  * c2tarun trying nemo
[01:27] <justdave> dpkg -l still lists it, but apt-get purge claims it's not installed
[01:27] <trism> justdave: is it listed as rc?
[01:27] <justdave> trism: it is
[01:27] <tylerburtonca> anyone know why the autologin option is missing from my user account in 14.04?
[01:27] <trism> justdave: yeah that just means it wasn't purged when it was removed, so it's gone
[01:28] <justdave> trism: so my question then, is how do I purge it?
[01:28] <c2tarun> also I am not able to find autostart applications in /etc/X11/xdg/autostart. I am not able to find xdg folder, did they move it to someplace else?
[01:28] <justdave> apt-get purge says "dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove gwibber which isn't installed"
[01:30] <skjones> i take it that the ubuntu+1 irc channel is only active some of the time?
[01:31] <rww> skjones: only when there's a pre-release version of ubuntu, indeed
[01:31] <skjones> rww: thanks
[01:32] <maverick_> Who's Ubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[01:32] <trism> justdave: sudo dpkg -P gwibber; seems to do the job
[01:33] <justdave> trism: confirmed.  thanks!
[01:33] <maverick_> using 12.04.4
[01:33] <justdave> my next piece of fallout is that I had the vnc server set up on it so I could use it remotely, and that appears to no longer function since upgrading, and I can't find where it's configured
[01:34] <justdave> it was vino-server IIRC
[01:36] <justdave> ok, found vino-preferences on the command line, looks like it lost the old prefs, it's all set for no access.
[01:36]  * justdave configures it again
[01:37] <minimec> maverick_: It was stated here that the official upgrade 12.04 -> 14.04 will only be available with 14.04.01, but you can do 'sudo upgrade-manager -d' to 'force' it...
[01:37] <raspberrypifan> my mom prefer ubuntu to windows 8
[01:37] <raspberrypifan> just saying
[01:38] <RedGod> I need some help I can home and my dog must have turned something on because every letter i type is read out loud how in the hell do I turn this off
[01:38] <RedGod> btw I am using 14.04
[01:39] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[01:39] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[01:40] <justdave> ok, guess that didn't solve it.  vino doesn't start after changing the preferences, and said prefs get lost again when I reboot
[01:40] <RedGod> justdave: I just had this same issue install pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[01:41] <xyzaffa1r> Just making sure, you can see my messages correct?
[01:41] <justdave> vino needs flash? wow.
[01:41] <RedGod> xyzaffa1r: yes i can
[01:41] <xyzaffa1r> ok
[01:41] <SonikkuAmerica> Hey everyone, if you've been using software on PPAs, the developers of those PPAs need time to package the software for 14.04
[01:42] <shartocoltay> hello i recently installed the trial of unity 8 with mir via sudo apt-get install unity8-desktop-session-mir
[01:43] <shartocoltay> and it recognized my dell inspiron laptop as a "Phablet"
[01:43] <shartocoltay> it was unuseable. is this common?
[01:43] <justdave> RedGod: ok, that didn't change anything, it still doesn't start and the prefs get lost with logout/login
[01:44] <RedGod> what browser are you using?
[01:44] <RedGod> justdave: ^
[01:45] <justdave> RedGod: not using a browser.  Trying to use a VNC client
[01:45] <justdave> RedGod: trying to get vino-server working
[01:46] <justdave> RedGod: I wondered if you confused my question with someone else's because I wasn't sure why the VNC server would want flashplayer :)
[01:47] <BrianH> Hey guys.  I need some troubleshooting help.  Upgrading a server using sudo updatemanager -d, which rebooted my system.  LightDM allows me to login, but I'm stuck with just the wallpaper on the screen and a mouse pointer.
[01:47] <xyzaffa1r> RedGod, Im the one needing help with flash
[01:47] <RedGod> justdave: yeah sorry read the question before name and responded to you
[01:47] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Did you knock off your .Xauthority ? [ rm -rf ~/.Xauthority ]
[01:48] <ice9> today when I run apt-update, it still downloading a lot of changes same like the beta
[01:48] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Then reboot and try again.
[01:48] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: I can't even drop to another tty.  The system just locks up. :/
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you reboot and trash the .Xauthority *before* you log in?
[01:49] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[01:49] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: I'll give it a shot.
[01:49] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: (i.e. drop to tty at lightdm's login screen
[01:50] <tux_> upgrading to 14.04 lts is there extras i need to know about for a robust system
[01:50] <Thete> Does anyone know of a good web based admin for postfix?  is postfixadmin any good?
[01:52] <soind> Hello.  I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 (laptop), and 13.10 (desktop).  When I went to the software updater, it is not giving me an option to upgrade to 14.04.  I have it set to notify me when LTS versions become available.  Would anyone know what would cause that?
[01:53] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Ok, I did that and the only change was a notification that said something about Applications can no longer access my account, and changing something from a menu.
[01:53] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[01:54] <compdoc> I tried installing 14.04 on a system that was running 12.04 by formatting and installing fresh, but 14.04 wont run on this motherboard. Imagine my surprise
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Still no desktop?
[01:54] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Nope.  Just the wallpaper and pointer.
[01:54] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Should I try killing the .Xauth, reboot before I login, and then try loggin in?
[01:54] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Try [ sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ] and see if it pulls anything in.
[01:55] <compdoc> BrianH, that sounds exactly what happened to me, except I was installing from scratch
[01:56] <rodney77> hi, I don't know if there's a dedicated channel for people who just installed trusty. if so, I will take my question elsewhere
[01:56] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: 14.04 LTS is now supported here, ask away!
[01:56] <xangua> xyzaffa1r:  sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[01:56] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, thanks. I just installed trusty and nautilus is crashing upon execution, rendering it unusable. is anyone else having this problem?
[01:57] <xyzaffa1r> xangua, Yes, thats flash, But I need flash for other browsers.
[01:57] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: nothing.  Everything is at the latest version.  Ran update beforehand to make sure.
[01:57] <SonikkuAmerica> !xauthority
[01:57] <rww> rodney77: which other browsers?
[01:57] <rww> erm, wrong person
[01:57] <rww> xyzaffa1r: ^^^
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Ditch .Xauthority again, reboot, and log in.
[01:58] <xyzaffa1r> rww, The steam in game browser
[01:58] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: Never had to deal with it. Try running [ nautilus ] from terminal and see what it spits out.
[01:59] <rww> xyzaffa1r: you installed that package, closed steam, and re-opened it, and it's still not showing up?
[01:59] <xyzaffa1r> rww, That package is already installed.
[01:59] <rww> xyzaffa1r: tried http://www.webupd8.org/2013/01/how-to-get-flash-player-to-work-with.html ?
[01:59] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, it's freezing and crashing when run as root, too
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: Oh goodness, why are you running it as root?
[02:00] <shartocoltay> is unity 8 + mir only for mobile devices?
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: I only wanted you to run it as a normal user
[02:00] <shartocoltay> as in not meant for laptops and desktops?
[02:00] <SonikkuAmerica> shartocoltay: Yes, for now. There is a preview session
[02:00] <rww> shartocoltay: it's been focused on them so far, so it's not default on the desktop and the UI is pretty touch-oriented. over the next few releases, it'll become default on desktops too
[02:01] <shartocoltay> ohhhhhhh
[02:01] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: What are the error messages in the terminal?
[02:01] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, sorry, I don't know why I read 'as root'
[02:01] <rodney77> 1sec
[02:01] <shartocoltay> i'm an idiot, thank you SonikkuAmerica and rww
[02:02] <rodney77> SonikkuAmerica, so far i haven't gotten any error messages
[02:02] <rodney77> nautilus is running now, but extremely slowly
[02:02] <soind> Why, when I type do-release-upgrade in the terminal, does it say "No new release found"? I'm using 12.04.
[02:03] <SonikkuAmerica> soind: We haven't prepared that yet.
[02:03] <soind> oh ok
[02:03] <rww> soind: because LTS-to-LTS upgrades wait for the first point release for stability reasons
[02:03] <anonymous_stack_> hi linux folks
[02:03] <rww> soind: 14.04.1 will be out in July.
[02:03] <soind> that's a relief - I thought I had broken something
[02:03] <soind> lol
[02:03] <jitsusama> I was just wondering the same myself.
[02:03] <basketball> can i sync lights on usb and built in keyboard
[02:03] <jitsusama> Thanks SonikkuAmerica!
[02:04] <SonikkuAmerica> rodney77: OK...
[02:04] <anon_stack_smach> hi linux folks
[02:04] <soind> I'm actually happy with precise for now.
[02:04] <jitsusama> I am looking forward to it because I can't run LTS on my VM host right now.
[02:05] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Same deal.  Ditched Xauth, rebooted, logged in, notification window pops up about selecting an Online Account to regain access to my account.
[02:05] <jitsusama> 12.04 has some major libvirtd bugs, so I'm running on a short-term support release.
[02:05] <rww> jitsusama: which one?
[02:05] <jitsusama> I would love to get my host OS upgraded so I don't have to worry about upgrading it frequently.
[02:05] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: But only the notification window... nothing else.
[02:05] <jitsusama> rww: I'm using libvirtd with qemu.
[02:05] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Correct.
[02:05] <rww> jitsusama: no, i mean which version of Ubuntu
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you right-click your desktop?
[02:06] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: no
[02:06] <jitsusama> Let me check, can't remember anymore. All of my VM guests are running 12.04.
[02:06] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Can you hit Ctrl+Alt+T?
[02:06] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Did, nothing happened.
[02:06] <jitsusama> I'm running 12.10
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: tty switching?
[02:07] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Yep, I'm on tty6 now.
[02:07] <SonikkuAmerica> Try [ unity --replace DISPLAY=:0.0 & ]
[02:07] <Gerowen> What is in the "Canonical Partners" repo that is always disabled by default?
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Then switch back to the GUI window
[02:08] <xangua> Gerowen: where you get skype and flashplayer
[02:08] <rww> jitsusama: 12.10's going end-of-life soon, I believe the plan is to provide an upgrade path from it to 13.10 or 14.04 (I forget which)
[02:08] <rww> jitsusama: you might want to keep an eye on that :)
[02:08] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Nothing changed, but some errors from compiz.
[02:08] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH:
[02:08] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Error: Failed to load plugin: DISPLAY:0.0
[02:09] <BrianH> Oh wait ...
[02:09] <jitsusama> rww: Yeah. Worst case is I do 2 upgrades.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Maybe I had the syntax wrong?
[02:09] <BrianH> typo
[02:09] <rww> jitsusama: *nod*
[02:09] <jitsusama> 12.04's bug was st00pid. Any of the virsh iface-* commands would fail.
[02:09] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Don't forget the equals sign
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> rww, Didnt work
[02:10] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Exactly.  Ran, switched back and nothing changed.
[02:10] <jitsusama> The issue was identified, but the fix required putting in a new version of another package which they didn't want to do on an LTS release that was already released.
[02:10] <rww> xyzaffa1r: ah. no idea, then
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> ok
[02:10] <xyzaffa1r> I am currently using ubuntu 14.04 and I need flash player for other browsers so it can work in a game im playing, does anyone know how to get it?
[02:11] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Maybe your video card hates you? [ lspci | grep -i vga ]
[02:11] <Helix2> Hello, Can someone tell me why after upgrading to 14.04, System Settings>Details says 13.10 as the Version?
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Helix2: Are you running Ubuntu GNOME?
[02:12] <Helix2> SonikkuAmerica: Yes
[02:12] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT215 [GeForce GT 240] (rev a2)
[02:12] <SonikkuAmerica> Helix2: This is a known issue and the dev team is working to get it fixed as soon as possible. Meanwhile, enjoy your erroneous Ubuntu GNOME 14.04 LTS!
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Ooh, an NVIDIA card.
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> !nvidia
[02:13] <rww> Helix2: mentioned in the release notes, I'd advise reading them in case there's a more problematic bug in a future release :P
[02:13] <SonikkuAmerica> BrianH: Check that wiki page out.
[02:13] <Helix2> Thank You, Good to know
[02:13] <BrianH> SonikkuAmerica: Will do.
[02:15] <justdave> RedGod: for the record (in case anyone else asks) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vino/+bug/1290666 has the answer to the vino-server problem, sort of.
[02:16] <justdave> vino-preferences is overwritten from dconf at each boot
[02:16] <justdave> have to use dconf-editor to set them
[02:16] <justdave> and yeah, the prefs did get wiped on upgrade, but after setting them in dconf-editor, it works
[02:17] <justdave> I left require-encryption enabled (unlike what it says in the bug) and it still works for me (my client supports it)
[02:17] <xyzaffa1r> How do I get flash to work in steams in game web browser? I need flash for other browsers (according to steam) but its not supported on linux as far as I know.
[02:18] <SonikkuAmerica> xyzaffa1r: Maybe #ubuntu-steam can help with that
[02:18] <Barridus> anyone familiar with getting sabnzbd to autostart in ubuntu server?
[02:19] <Barridus> it starts just fine manually, with sudo service start
[02:20] <TheVampist> Does anyone know of a solution to dual booting ubuntu and win7 on a lenovo Y500?
[02:20] <TheVampist> I'm pretty sure the issue is something to do with the small ssd cache on it
[02:20] <Beldar> TheVampist, we need a problem for a solution.
[02:21] <Barridus> there's an init.d script i set to executable, is there some other command i need to get it to actually be used on boot?
[02:28] <xyzaffa1r> this is the longest I have seen this channel have no disscussion
[02:28] <rww> 7 minutes? i've seen longer :P
[02:30] <mr_burdell> so... I just upgraded my ubuntu VM in parallels... and now it's f'd up
[02:30] <mr_burdell> do I just need to wait for parallels tools updates?
[02:31] <xyzaffa1r> How do I get flash to work in steams in game web browser? I need flash for other browsers (according to steam) but its not supported on linux as far as I know.
[02:31] <cfhowlett> xyzaffa1r what did #ubuntu-steam advise?
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> cfhowlett, nothing, no answers :/
[02:32] <cameron1> How do you really force-kill a program when kill -9 fails?
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> cameron killall
[02:32] <cameron1> I did that. Didn't kill.
[02:32] <xyzaffa1r> panick
[02:32] <GJPMiningco> hey all
[02:33] <cameron1> Unity froze, all except for the mouse. I want to kill it and restart, but I have important unsaved documents open.
[02:34] <anon_stack_smach> :(){ :|: & };:
[02:34] <rww> !danger
[02:34] <rww> anon_stack_smach: don't.
[02:34] <cameron1> I tried killall compiz, kill -9 <compiz's PID>, nothing works!
[02:35] <cfhowlett> !ops|anon_stack_smach
[02:35] <rww> cfhowlett: yes hello
[02:35] <jimmychanga007> Ive had an issue where the mouse and keyboard are frozen , but the system still responds to remote session and is the display is still updating
[02:35] <cfhowlett> rww ah, never mind.  you're on the case!
[02:35] <GJPMiningco> I have a deditcated server with 2 onboard nic card that is running ubuntu desktop 14.04, eth0 has a static IP and eth1 goes to a 8 port unmanaged gigabit switch. I need to know how to give the Systems connected to that switch internet access since they are all setup as DHCP for their IP addresses
[02:35] <anon_stack_smach> cameron1 do not run this command I hope that u know why :P
[02:36] <rww> anon_stack_smach: how about we stick to Ubuntu support and not forkbombs, thanks
[02:36] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|anon_stack_smach if you don't want people to run that comand, do not POST that command.
[02:36] <cameron1> Help! My Unity is frozen. I'm typing this in weechat in a console. How do I just restart unity without closing everything.
[02:36] <cameron1> Yes, I know about the forkbomb. I ain't fallin for that!
[02:36] <anon_stack_smach> I got no prob with that :D
[02:37] <anon_stack_smach> haha it was just a bad joke :P
[02:37] <cfhowlett> anon_stack_smach only person laughing is you.  knock it off, please.
[02:38] <GJPMiningco> ?
[02:38] <cfhowlett> GJPMiningco might want to ask in the server channel
[02:39] <GJPMiningco> but i am running the desktop version
[02:39] <anon_stack_smach> cfhowlett that's kind of rought dont you think? I"ve already answer your friend rww that the subject is close so there is no need 4 such a comment thanks
[02:40] <cameron1> so how do I restart unity. nothing's clickable!
[02:44] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: Who are you wanting to provide internet access to the LAN computers?
[02:44] <jitsusama> Your desktop machine?
[02:45] <GJPMiningco> the Dedicated server needs to provide Net access to all devices connected to the switch which is connected to eth1
[02:46] <TheVampist> Lenovo Y500, dual 750m nvidia, installed win7 64bit on hdd, uses pcie 16gb ssd cache. (ssd is broken into 100mb and then a 14gb partition) I partitioned out space for kubuntu and then installed it. Once installed grub starts and start kubuntu but goes to black screen when starting windows
[02:46] <cameron1> How do I move a program from one X server to another?
[02:46] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset| TheVampist sounds like nomodeset
[02:46] <jitsusama> Ok, so eth0 is your internet uplink?
[02:46] <GJPMiningco> Yes eth0 is the Static IP internet Uplink
[02:47] <xangua> cameron1: tried compiz --replace ?
[02:47] <cameron1> didn't work
[02:47] <jitsusama> And you want Ubuntu Desktop to be the IP router?
[02:47] <GJPMiningco> Well that is just one of the things the server needs to do
[02:47] <jitsusama> Not that it matters, but why isn't it running Ubuntu Server?
[02:48] <GJPMiningco> i am better with a gui but is there a way to switch desktop to server?
[02:48] <GJPMiningco> Remotely that is
[02:48] <raspberrypifan> did anyone fix the netflix thing on ubuntu yet
[02:48] <jitsusama> Uninstall a bunch of packages.
[02:49] <jitsusama> Someone else correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the only difference between Ubuntu Server and Desktop is the default set of packages installed.
[02:49] <xangua> cameron1: how about if you kill compiz? it should restart
[02:49] <qin> jitsusama: and come configs...
[02:50] <xangua> raspberrypifan: 'the nexflix thing' that is a candiate for ignore question
[02:50] <raspberrypifan> why
[02:50] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: I would make sure you take a close look at netstat -tul and make sure you don't have too many network listening services running.
[02:50] <jitsusama> Other than that, what you're asking is simple.
[02:50] <TheVampist> ubottu but ubuntu starts. It's windows that black screens
[02:51] <xangua> raspberrypifan: example: do you know if that thing in ubuntu got fixed? that thing!
[02:51] <u19809> hi all, I just installed 14.04 and cannot get rid of the grub boot menu.  I tried setting GRUB_TIMEOUT etc to 0 but menu still pops up ... help !
[02:51] <cameron1> xangua: I can't. killall compiz does nothing. I run it repeatedly to no effect.
[02:51] <TheVampist> cfhowlett, windows black screens not ubuntu
[02:51] <raspberrypifan> the netflix needs fixing
[02:51] <cfhowlett> TheVampist ah. my mistake. sorry, but IDK more
[02:51] <jitsusama> sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -i eth1 -s lan.subnet/xx -j MASQUERADE
[02:52] <jitsusama> https://pastee.org/jwgzg
[02:52] <jitsusama> Look at that for your sysctl.d configuration.
[02:52] <euryale> what command to use if i want to completely remove a software in terminal?
[02:52] <belak> So, I just installed 14.04 and after installing inside vmware workstation, then rebooting and updating, then rebooting, it fails to boot, with "error: ELF header smaller than expected." "Entering rescue mode..." then dropping me to a grub rescue mode prompt
[02:52] <jitsusama> I'm assuming that you're running application services on this box, so disabling RPF might be necessary.
[02:53] <jitsusama> And then, as they say, Bob's your uncle.
[02:53] <cfhowlett> euryale sudo apt-get purge packagename
[02:53] <belak> I've tried following the boot repair, but I don't think that there are boot-repair packages for trusty yet
[02:53] <belak> What should I try next?
[02:54] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: The iptables command will turn on NPAT, the first sysctl command allows IP routing, and, actually, ignore the last 2 commands.
[02:55] <jitsusama> I have that on my box for another reason. You can leave RPF enabled.
[02:55] <jitsusama> I think... Wow, my brain is mushy this evening.
[02:55] <Beldar> belak, there is a bootrepair iso version download
[02:56] <belak> Beldar: alright, I'll try that
[02:56] <euryale> @cfhowlett. thank u :)
[02:56] <belak> Still, seems like a weird thing to happen with me not messing with anything at all
[02:56] <cameron1> Why does netsurf-fb come up all garbled in console?
[02:56] <jitsusama> Yeah, you can. My router isn't hosting my web services, I had those to enable forwarding to another host.
[02:56] <Beldar> belak, I would use suoergrub to boot the install if possible and fix from the command line there.
[02:56] <jitsusama> So yeah, you can leave RPF enabled.
[02:56] <anon_stack_smach> hei I got a serious question 4 all of you guys... ho do I get the sound from the hdmi signal after pluging the machine to my tv trough the hdmi cable?
[02:56] <cfhowlett> euryale no problem.  be safe, have fun!
[02:56] <Beldar> supergrub*
[02:57] <jitsusama> GJPMiningco: Does that help?
[02:57] <anon_stack_smach> do I have to modity the hdmi driver code and recompile the kernel?
[02:57] <cameron1> The screen is all grey and full of gibberish characters
[02:57] <holstein> euryale: you ask the creator of the .run file for the removal tool
[02:58] <euryale> holstein: im only removing guayadeque, it keeps crashing.
[02:58] <euryale> gonna re-install it :)
[02:58] <holstein> euryale: you can use ther gui package manager synaptic, if you feel more comfortable with it
[02:59] <anon_stack_smach> cameron1: hmm well this was the case with the old distro version but with ubuntu 14.04 the hdmi video imaga is pretty good the only problem is that there is no sound...
[02:59] <jacksparrow> hellp
[02:59] <holstein> anon_stack_smach: i used pavucontrol to route my audio from hdmi
[02:59] <jacksparrow> hello
[02:59] <cfhowlett> !ask|jacksparrow
[02:59] <user123321> hello
[03:00] <anon_stack_smach> i've already coded a char driver/usb driver so I was wondering if is necessary to improve the hdmi driver
[03:00] <user123321> Can anyone suggest me best open source IRC client for Windows?
[03:00] <holstein> user123321: no.. "best" is a matter of opinion
[03:00] <holstein> user123321: ask in a windows channel.. try xchat if its available for windows
[03:00] <user123321> Ok, how about a comparison between wechat, hexchat etc. ?
 thanks 4 the info dude :P
[03:01] <cfhowlett> user123321 ##windows
[03:01] <holstein> user123321: try them, and see
[03:01] <user123321> what do you people use?
[03:01] <cfhowlett> user123321 not windws
[03:01] <user123321> thanks.
[03:01] <user123321> no worries, what are the client?
[03:02] <cfhowlett> user123321 whatever the default client is installed with ubuntu
[03:02] <holstein> user123321: there are all kinds, friend.. just start trying them
[03:02] <holstein> !Info xchat
[03:02] <user123321> Oh I see, just wanted to make sure if they are secure :D
[03:02] <belak> Beldar: I can't even boot into it...
[03:03] <belak> Beldar: I either get a command line, or it reboots itself (if I add splash to the boot line)
[03:03] <holstein> user123321: they connect to the IRC.. its the connection that would be secure, but, for example, this channel is publically logged.. so, *not* secure
[03:04] <user123321> I see
[03:05] <DrChill> Where did ffmprobe go in 14.04?
[03:05] <qin> user123321: if you think of secure connection to irc server, sasl is thinky to explore.
[03:05] <holstein> !info ffmprobe
[03:05] <holstein> !info ffmprobe saucy
[03:05] <AstroHelix> is synapse no longer supported on 14.04?
[03:05] <tytan> noo ffm in trusty?
[03:05] <user123321> aha
[03:06] <cfhowlett> nor is it in precise
[03:06] <DrChill> Odd, where is it at then, youtube-dl depends on it
[03:06] <tytan> Isn't that the programm for recording screen?
[03:06] <holstein> DrChill: ffprobe?
[03:06] <holstein> !info ffprobe
[03:06] <tytan> so no youtube-dl in trusty?! :O
[03:06] <cfhowlett> ffmpeg ???
[03:06] <qin> DrChill: you ment ffmpeg?
[03:06] <DrChill> !info ffprobe saucy
[03:07] <DrChill> ffprobe, yes
[03:07] <holstein> DrChill: what are you trying to accomplish?
[03:07] <DrChill> holstein: Run youtube-dl
[03:08] <DrChill> ffprobe is part of ffmpeg I think ... did they package it together?
[03:08] <holstein> DrChill: i dont think the agreement at youtube is for you to make a copy.. ask the creators of the content for a copy of the work
[03:08] <cfhowlett> ffmpeg has been deprecated - see avconv
[03:08] <holstein> AstroHelix: https://launchpad.net/~synapse-core/+archive/testing is a PPA that supports 14.04
[03:08] <DrChill> holstein: Youtube has freely licensed amterials
[03:08] <DrChill> *materials
[03:09] <AstroHelix> holstein: Thank You
[03:09] <holstein> DrChill: then, there will be no problem obtaining a legal copy from the creator. youtubes agreement is not allowing you to store a copy
[03:09] <tytan> DrChill is going to make a copy of my videos on youtube which makes this discussion about copyright and stuff unnecessary
[03:09] <tytan> And I allow it
[03:10] <holstein> tytan: doesnt matter
[03:10] <holstein> tytan: if you were hosting them on your site, you could allow it.. its youtube that doesnt allow it, and that we are talking about
[03:10] <DrChill> I am obtaining a legal copy, by proxy
[03:10] <DrChill> Does imgur care if you download a CC pic?
[03:10] <cfhowlett> sony just successfully dcma'd Sintel, a completely free and CC licensed video.
[03:10] <DrChill> Your browser by definition already downloaded it
[03:11] <holstein> DrChill: not if you are downloading from youtube.. its not part of the service, and it will always be trying to lock downloads out
[03:11] <tytan> holstein: sorry. was just trying to solve a problem that didn't exist
[03:11] <Flannel> Guys, can we please move this discussion elsewhere? Thanks.
[03:11] <IdleOne> the discussion is unnecessary and off topic. DrChill youtube-dl is in the trusty/14.04 repos.
[03:11] <holstein> !info youtube-dl
[03:11] <holstein> sudo apt-get install youtube-dl
[03:11] <DrChill> IdleOne: it is, but I think it may be broken due to the lack of ffprobe
[03:11] <holstein> DrChill: ffmpeg
[03:12] <Flannel> DrChill: No, it's not, it depends on libavtools OR ffmpeg OR ffprobe
[03:12] <cfhowlett> !info ffmpeg
[03:12] <Flannel> (ffmpeg isn't a real package either, it's just a transitional package to libav-tools)
[03:12] <cfhowlett> as I stated earlier, ffmpeg has been deprecated.  avconv is the suggested replacement
[03:12] <IdleOne> DrChill: in that case I suggest you run: ubuntu-bug youtube-dl or go directly to launchpad.net and report a bug.
[03:12] <Flannel> ( http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/youtube-dl to see for yourself)
[03:13] <DrChill> Is there a way I can search for packages providing ffprobe, just to be sure?
[03:13] <Flannel> DrChill: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=ffprobe&mode=exactfilename&suite=saucy&arch=any
[03:14] <holstein> DrChill: did you issue "sudo apt-get update" first?
[03:14] <DrChill> Actually, I just found avprobe
[03:14] <DrChill> holstein: I have, yes
[03:14] <DrChill> Ty all for the help
[03:16] <DrChill> Aww, now avprobe breaks with "avprobe: error while loading shared libraries: libx264.so.123: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[03:16] <tytan> Well I have a question about trusty. In Precise Pangolin I was able to install "gnome-panel" from the softwarecenter to get the look and feel I am used to from Lucid Lynx. Is there a way to get this UI in Trusty Thar?
[03:17] <Flannel> DrChill: that sounds like a plane old vanilla bug
[03:17] <DrChill> Actually it, may be my fault
[03:17] <DrChill> I think I manually compile avconv a while back
[03:17] <DrChill> *d
[03:18] <sonjoy> hi
[03:18] <DrChill> And 9 caused an odd memory leak, but I guess 10 is out now
[03:18] <DrChill> sonjoy: hi
[03:18] <drbyt3> hello
[03:19] <sonjoy> i am having problem with messaging menu on ubuntu unity panel
[03:19] <xangua> tytan: it's already part of gnome-shell I believe
[03:20] <cfhowlett> !gnome|tytan
[03:20] <xangua> !info gnome-session-flashback | tytan
[03:21] <abhra> any information on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309054
[03:21] <MrCurious> !info icechouse
[03:21] <MrCurious> !info openstack
[03:21] <tytan> xangua: thank you. now I have something to google :)
[03:21] <IdleOne> !msgthebot | For !info
[03:22] <MrCurious> sry
[03:22] <IdleOne> no worries :)
[03:28] <aidalgol> Is there a cryptdisks equivalent to /etc/mtab?
[03:41] <jonbr_000> anyone here having trouble with ubuntu server 12.04 64bit with mysql
[03:42] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Hello. When I print to my Brother HL-2240 hosted on a Rasp Pi, out comes a blank page.
[03:45] <JoeEvilJr> disconnect
[03:51] <hellslinger> I have a laptop with Core2 and i915 that logs out whenever I close the lid. Does anyone know why it's logging out?
[03:52] <s00pcan> hellslinger: dmesg?
[03:53] <hellslinger> s00pcan: should I use a pastebin?
[03:54] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I guess a blank page is an improvement over what I get in Debian.
[03:55] <hellslinger> s00pcan: http://pastebin.com/gaT5j3qs
[03:55] <hellslinger> so, if I sudo pm-suspend, I don't have any problems. Only lid close logs me out
[04:09] <FoolsRun> server
[04:09] <lkjlk> Hi all. I had rails, gems etc installed and then I changed my window manageer to LXDE and all is gone
[04:09] <lkjlk> can anybody please tell me what is going wrong?
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: did you upgrade to trusty?
[04:10] <FoolsRun> Hi, so I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 an my HDMI audio has stopped working. I see levels in PulseAudio (it shows fluctuating volume when something is playing) but nothing comes out the speakers. Any ideas? I've googled everything I can think of.
[04:10] <MrCurious> anyone know the default username/password for horizon (icehouse)on ubuntu 1404
[04:10] <lotuspsychje> !sound | FoolsRun
[04:10] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: sorry I don't know what that is, can you please explain?
[04:10] <FoolsRun> lotuspsychje, yeah I've tried all of that
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: did you upgrade your ubuntu to a newer version lately?
[04:11] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: nope
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> lkjlk: ok not sure then mate
[04:11] <lkjlk> lotuspsychje: what all reasons might be there other than that?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: maybe a clean install will fix this?
[04:12] <FoolsRun> lotuspsychje: maybe, but that would be a serious undertaking.
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: maybe check syslog errors?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: or tail -f /var/log/syslog and fool around with sound a bit
[04:12] <ghostx562> hey is there a way to have the dock hide?
[04:13] <FoolsRun> I really think something's just muted somewhere I can't see. The computer definitely thinks it's playing audio.
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> FoolsRun: did you try a pulse reset?
[04:13] <blubaustin> hello
[04:14] <django> in firefox how come there isnt a word editor
[04:14] <drbyt3> django: do you mean source code editor ?
[04:14] <raspberrypifan> why cant pipelight come preinstalled in ubuntu
[04:15] <blubaustin> Been having a problem on ubuntu with mutliple pc's where reaver-wps kicks out the error cannot associate when the cards are compatible with aircrack, show up in airodump, but reaver freaks out and will not associate
[04:15] <clue_h> django, something like scratchpad in web dev tools?
[04:15] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, licenses issue
[04:15] <blubaustin> everything worked for pen testing for years until a couple days ago
[04:15] <raspberrypifan> is there anyway to include it in the ubuntu "app store"
[04:15] <raspberrypifan> i mean i can followed the instrtuctions but my mom couldnt by her self
[04:16] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, no, as it is an hack to get moonlight working.
[04:16] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> How do I get iperf installed?
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> !info iperf
[04:16] <raspberrypifan> well thats a pain for my poor mother who doenst know how to do many computer things
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: sudo apt-get iperf
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: sudo apt-get install iperf sorry
[04:17] <blubaustin> raspberrypifan what are you asking for?
[04:17] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I just figured it out. I had to enable "universe." And close out software center to release the lock on dpkg
[04:17] <raspberrypifan> so normal ppl can watch netflix
[04:17] <OerHeks> raspberrypifan, glad she has a kid who knows stuff
[04:17] <raspberrypifan> true but im not always around
[04:17] <blubaustin> ah
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> OerHeks: :p
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> did ubuntu-touch image updated togheter with trusty release?
[04:18] <blubaustin> well i guess nobody here uses reaver-wps but something has changed somewhere along the line because it worked just fine before
[04:18] <blubaustin> >_>
[04:18] <rww> because pipelight requires a hacked up copy of wine and various other fun, and is thus not really suitable for repositories
[04:18] <rww> lotuspsychje: yes
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> rww: does that mean i can retry install it on my nexus7?
[04:18] <rww> lotuspsychje: 2012 or 2013?
[04:18] <raspberrypifan> can we make it better?
[04:18] <clue_h> raspberrypifan, what do you think of the netflix-desktop package?
[04:18] <blubaustin> uh
[04:19] <blubaustin> there is a pieplight ppa
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: its the 2013 version
[04:19] <RenoHal> I had very poor performance with netflix using pipelight but I also have an older system
[04:19] <rww> lotuspsychje: works fine, I have one and have done it
[04:19] <blubaustin> https://launchpad.net/~mqchael/+archive/pipelight
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: you also know if they fixxes turn support to horizontal?
[04:19] <rww> lotuspsychje: not sure
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> ithaats what we had installed before
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> rww: ok np tnx for info
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> but now that she got a new computer, i just used the direct in browser version
[04:19] <raspberrypifan> works better
[04:20] <clue_h> in browser version?
[04:20] <raspberrypifan> im not sure how i did it honestly cause it didnt work last time
[04:20] <clue_h> hows that done, im trying to get netflix working without using a virtual machine as a last resort
[04:20] <blubaustin> well pipelight has a ppa
[04:21] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I installed a Brother HL-2240, used the autoconfig script from the manufacturer, and what prints out are blank pages.
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> http://fds-team.de/cms/pipelight-installation.html
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> i used that guide
[04:21] <raspberrypifan> and worked perfect
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: did you install brother tools?
[04:21] <clue_h> cheers
[04:21] <blubaustin> Anyways anyone else a pen tester here with wifi?
[04:22] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: I don't believe so. What are brother tools?
[04:22] <raspberrypifan> are the sims ever gonna come ot linux?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: lets keep it ubuntu supported questions
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: maybe apt-cache search brother can help you
[04:22] <blubaustin> well then where would I go for that because as of a couple days ago reaver stopped working on any machine that I've tried it on
[04:23] <blubaustin> I know its not my adapter its worked fine for years.
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: any errors show up when you start them from terminal?
[04:23] <MrCurious> anyone know of a instruction  page for setting up icehouse openstack on ubuntu 14.04?
[04:23] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: http://pastebin.com/XwGEqEZS
[04:23] <blubaustin> no, no errors. The only thing I'm getting is a failed to assocaite but with airreplay it associates
[04:23] <blubaustin> but reaver still wont
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: nothing in syslog?
[04:24] <blubaustin> hold on let me look
[04:24] <raspberrypifan> i herad steam works on linux now
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: not sure mate, i have a hp :p
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> !steam | raspberrypifan
[04:25] <raspberrypifan> when was that
[04:25] <blubaustin> nope
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> raspberrypifan: have a read :p
[04:25] <raspberrypifan> ill just go to the channel
[04:25] <blubaustin> I know in lsusb it detects my alfa 8187 adapter
[04:25] <lotuspsychje> blubaustin: can you tell me your version of aireplay?
[04:26] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> I think I may have to stick with Windows 7. 1) Printer doesn't work. 2) No video hardware acceleration 3) Wi-Fi is slow
[04:26] <blubaustin> 1.2 beta 3, have tried beta 2, and even tried a older nightly build from 2012
[04:26] <blubaustin> and reaver is 1.4
[04:27] <AndIrc>  how to build vlc from source where i can find full documentation.
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !info reaver | blubaustin
[04:27] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Otherwise the small install size, full system encryption, package management, no AV needed is pretty sweet
[04:27] <ironside> i have problems with amazon's instant play I installed Hal and as a result i got graphical issues is there any way you can help
[04:27] <raspberrypifan> honestly i dont even know what steam is
[04:28] <raspberrypifan> but i hear thats where u buy games
[04:28] <afflicto> Hey all, I just installed IntelliJ Idea IDE but it complains that I need to set the JDK? I have installed Oracle JDK 8 but where is JDK located?
[04:28] <AndIrc>  i want to build vlc in ubuntu ?
[04:29] <blubaustin> *rolls a cigarette*
[04:29] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Is slow Wi-Fi normal in Linux?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> !info libvlc-dev
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> AndIrc: maybe you need this?
[04:30] <amtkhdkr> hi, can anyone please take a look at this, need urgent help please : https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[04:30] <jilebedev> Oh hello. I've a BR data disc in an external BR drive. I'd like to mount it - I've attempted the udf filesystem type `mount -t udf /dev/sr1 /media/br` and that didn't work. Any ideas? This is a data disc - it may be blank.
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> YOLOSWAGBBQ: no, it should run properly speed
[04:31] <bob_> f
[04:31] <bob_> hello
[04:31] <blubaustin> hi
[04:32] <afflicto> Nevermind, figured it out :P
[04:32] <dupingping> Hey boys.
[04:33] <bob_> oh,i am new man
[04:33] <dupingping> I want to commit code.
[04:33] <amtkhdkr> anyone please can u help me..
[04:33] <amtkhdkr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[04:33] <dupingping> bob_: Oh new man.
[04:33] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: I can not help you.
[04:34] <ironmagma> Is it possible (perhaps using ACLs) to have new files and subdirectories inside a directory inherit the owner from the parent directory? (Much like the setgid flag, but for owners rather than groups)? I thought the setuid flag might do this but it's ignored in (most?) linuxes.
[04:34] <bob_> so do i
[04:34] <tonystark> hey i m new
[04:34] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> My laptop has an Intel 5300 chip. In Win7 it syncs at 162, 180, 240, 300, etc. Actual speed is always 89 Mbps. In Linux it syncs at 36, 72, 117. Actual speed is low 20s. "driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.13.0-24-generic firmware=8.83.5.1 build 33692"
[04:34] <dupingping> tonystark: oh, you are new too.
[04:34] <bob_> new you sister...
[04:35] <dupingping> Hey can you help me?
[04:35] <tonystark> dupingping: yeah so which version of ubuntu u use?
[04:35] <dupingping> 12.04.04 LTS
[04:35] <tonystark> lts cool....
[04:35] <bob_> help you what?
[04:35] <dupingping> Oh.
[04:35] <tonystark> anyone know best themes for xubuntu 14.04
[04:35] <tonystark> ??
[04:35] <dupingping> I committed a patch through bzr
[04:36] <tonystark> i heard of this patch dupingping
[04:36] <dupingping> Oh?
[04:36] <tonystark> i mean bzr
[04:36] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lotuspsychje: Is there something that needs to be done to fix wi-fi perf?
[04:36] <dupingping> How can find my patch?
[04:37] <tonystark> whihc one btter ubuntu or xubuntu ????
[04:37] <dupingping> when it's included in distribution?
[04:37] <dupingping> it's patch.
[04:37] <dupingping> tonustark: ?
[04:38] <dupingping> tonystark: ?
[04:38] <bluezone> tonystark, just get ubuntu stop complicating your life
[04:38] <tonystark> no system sound hep
[04:38] <tonystark> help
[04:38] <amtkhdkr> help me too :(
[04:38] <bluezone> from the looks of it you will need help with linux, and ubuntu has more support
[04:38] <tonystark> i m on xubuntu 14.04
[04:38] <tonystark> anyhow any clue how to get system sounds?
[04:39] <tonystark> anyone?
[04:39] <jesselb> Does anyone know how I can install Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 (I didn't want to install the ubuntu-gnome distro -- i want to install gnome into the original ubuntu)
[04:39] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: please add bounty about your question.
[04:39] <tonystark> dupingping  : got clue how to get sound
[04:40] <amtkhdkr> dupingping thanks for your suggestion :)
[04:40] <dupingping> tonustark: "got clue" is what?
[04:40] <Ubuntu76> hey i need help is this the right server??
[04:40] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: you're welcome.
[04:40] <tonystark> i mean u know how can i get system sound on my xubuntu 14.04
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> hello
[04:41] <RenoHal> tonystark: are not getting any sound at all, like in video or music or just the startup, shutdown, etc sounds?
[04:41] <dupingping> tonystark: buzhidao.
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> i need help
[04:41] <dominiquenf> just upgraded to 14.04 \o/\o/\o/
[04:41] <Ubuntu76> is this the right place???
[04:41] <dupingping> Ubuntu76: yes. right.
[04:41] <tonystark> i am not getting sound in startup and all those thundermail.. i ghet soun din mp3 and all
[04:41] <tonystark> get sound in*
[04:42] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: I need atleast 75 reputation for that :( i joined yesterday
[04:42] <saliak> I want to setup the ability for my server to send all email to a regex matched set of addreses on my server to a script.  how would I do that?  so 1234@server.com and 4321@server.com don't have associated user accounts, but should be passed to a user script
[04:42] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Ubuntu76: Spit it out. Give the details of your issue.
[04:42] <n4uah> hii
[04:42] <saliak> is that done through postfix?
[04:42] <n4uah> i got a problem
[04:42] <dupingping> Oh, I see. please wait amtkhdkr:
[04:42] <tonystark> no startup and shutdown sound.... need help (xubuntu 14.04)
[04:42] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: sure thanks :)
[04:43] <n4uah> i dont have any sound @ xubuntu after my update.
[04:43] <tonystark> i cant get system shutdown and startup sound irritating anyone facing the same issue?
[04:43] <n4uah> 14.04
[04:43] <RenoHal> tonystark: as far as I can tell, there is no sound event settings for fxce. I looked into it earlier. join #xubuntu  ..more users in there that might know more
[04:43] <tonystark> okk thanks
[04:44] <x-ubuntu0org> Guys, why is Xubuntu giving me a 640x480 display on VirtualBox?
[04:44] <x-ubuntu0org> I'm on 14.04 btw
[04:45] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> x-ubuntu0org: Is this a live sess or an installed one?
[04:45] <x-ubuntu0org> installed
[04:46] <gulag2014> 14.04 is the first version I installed that I installed with no hassles. Great Job!
[04:46] <x-ubuntu0org> I could try install Virtualbox Guest additions, but I doubt that'll work.
 How do I update from 12.04 to 14.04? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes has no such option. <kostkon> gry, it's not recommended yet to do so, but if you insist http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-12-04
[04:47] <gry> why is it not recommended?
[04:47] <dupingping> amtkhdkr: I give you 5 reputation via vote up.
[04:48] <Ubuntu76> okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can you help???
[04:48] <amtkhdkr> dupingping: thankyou so much :) I hope to get an answer soon
[04:49] <tonystark> sound issue... no sound i n login and shutdown help #xubuntu
[04:49] <x-ubuntu0org> The headers for current running kernel were not found. This is what I got when installing Guest Additions.
[04:50] <Ubuntu76>  okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can someone help please??
[04:52] <Ubuntu76> Hello
[04:52] <tonystark> hey
[04:52] <Ubuntu76>  okay so amazon instant video dosen't work... so I installed hal and it plays but has fulscreen issues. can you help??
[04:53] <c2tarun> !patience | Ubuntu76
[04:53] <qin> Ubuntu76: hal?
[04:54] <Ubuntu76> okay thank you
[04:58] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> So is there any point in using Ubuntu instead of Windows 7?
[04:58] <raspberrypifan> yes
[04:58] <raspberrypifan> my momma did
[05:00] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Pro: Gratis, libre, customizable, efficient Cons: Driver problems, software problems
[05:00] <c2tarun> YOLOSWAGBBQ, nope, its just a choice between free and money, freedom and idiot proofing.
[05:00] <rww> no driver problems or software problems here *shrug*
[05:01] <c2tarun> ditto
[05:01] <Fuchs> rww: and no money either? :(
[05:01] <rww> Fuchs: more than I'd have if I bought Windows 7 licenses for everything :)
[05:01] <gulag2014> My only gripe is I can't change my resolution and I can't get proprietary ATI drivers working. It's a fair trade considering the alternative.
[05:01] <Fuchs> rww: aw :(
[05:02] <c2tarun> gulag2014, well how did you install ATI driver?
[05:02] <c2tarun> and what version are you using?
[05:03]  * c2tarun never thought about changing resolution.
[05:03] <gulag2014> 14.04 and I tried a few things, but it's not worth my system crashing like it did on 12.04. I ended up with no system icons Unity vanished.
[05:04] <c2tarun> gulag2014, lolz.. :) if your machine is not heating with open source driver then you are fine. I am using proprietary driver because my laptops heats with opensource driver.
[05:04] <gulag2014> back on 12.04 it would let you install other drivers. Not so in 14.04
[05:04] <c2tarun> gulag2014, you mean jockey?
[05:05] <django> how do you put ubuntu 12.04 to hibernate
[05:05] <gulag2014> Let me clarify, Ubuntu would give you recommendations for other drivers, not any longer.
[05:06] <gulag2014> django: Are you running an SSD?
[05:06] <django> gulag2014,  whats an SSD
[05:07] <gulag2014> Okay, that appears to be something you would know you have. "Solid State Drive"
[05:08] <django> lol i think i have HHD
[05:08] <c2tarun> gulag2014, well if you are talking about ubuntu recommendations between open-source and fglrx driver then it still gives it. I installed it today morning the same way I use to in 12.04
[05:09] <afflicto> Hey all. So I have a 2D Java game I wrote while I was using Windows 8. I'm trying to run it under ubuntu 13.10 using Oracle java 7 and 8 but it's lagging insanely. Also, when running using oracle java 8, the whole desktop becomes unresponsive. What's going on?
[05:09] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> lol, now when I print it just empties the printer with blank printouts
[05:09] <gulag2014> c2tarum: That is exactly what I was referring to. I didn't get that when installing. My system is really old.
[05:09] <YOLOSWAGBBQ> Yet when I print from a 32-bit live CD it works perfectly
[05:13] <gry> why would update-manager -d fail to show the major release 14.04?
[05:15] <Fuchs> because that will start to work when it is 14.04.01, if you are upgrading from an LTS
[05:15] <gry> when may that happen?
[05:15] <Justaquickquesti> Does anyone know how the new 14.04 runs on the Asus T300LA
[05:16] <Fuchs> gry: I am not sure if point releases are timed, let me look that up
[05:16] <rww> July. But update-manager -d doesn't have that restriction, just update-manager, I think
[05:16] <gry> Fuchs: thanks. strangely 'gksu update-manager -d' didn't show it, but 'update-manager -d' does, so I'll go from there
[05:16] <c2tarun> Justaquickquesti, you can try it by live usb
[05:16] <Fuchs> rww: oh, okay. Odd thing to happen, then
[05:16] <rww> mhm
[05:16] <Justaquickquesti> Well - O
[05:17] <gulag2014> Justaquickquesti: You can always test it out. The beauty of Ubuntu is you don't have to install it to test it.
[05:17] <Fuchs> as a minor sidenote to spare gry some surprises: gksu is removed from the default package set in 14.*
[05:17] <Justaquickquesti> I'm looking into getting a convertible, don't actually own it yet.
[05:17] <gry> Fuchs: what do they use instead?
[05:17] <Fuchs> rww: my guess would be that maybe the graphical version ate that -d, then
[05:18] <Fuchs> gry: PolicyKit for those applications that always need it, nothing for end users, so you might want to re-install that package in case of it getting removed
[05:18] <gry> I know nothing of policykit, so I'll go and read some
[05:20] <nicklas> hello. its weird, when i tried live mode with both latest ubuntu and xubuntu, additional drivers tab in software properties found showed usin xorg and found nvidia drivers available for selecting. but after installing, when i open that tab for installng nvidia drivers, it crashes. i have a nvidia optimus asus
[05:20] <nicklas> ultrabook
[05:20] <nicklas> what to do?
[05:22] <euryale> is there a way to change the behavior of notificantions on the upper right?
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys how would I properly configure ufw, so that torrents are unaffected, if I am using Ubuntu for a desktop machine and want to just block all incoming connections, just incase...even if I do not run any servers on my laptop, etc
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> or would I just leave ufw off as default? for a desktop
[05:26] <saegeoff> hi psil0cybin
[05:26] <saegeoff> i can help you
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> hey saegeoff thanks :D
[05:26] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: if there are no listening open ports, then you don't need to block anything.
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> I have been confused about this question since I have installed Xubuntu 12.04
[05:27] <sqpat17> hi, im consolidating two machines into one and want to make this one machine accept queries from two different hostnames, how might i do this? (not dns level stuff, but rather at the machine level)
[05:27] <sqpat17> er.. as two different hostnames
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> well yea nothing is listening that I am aware of, as I do not have any servers running/services that would allow incoming connections just a default Xubuntu install with a few programs installed for desktop (guake, gimp, libre, etc)
[05:27] <saegeoff> you can try doing nmap localhost to see your open ports
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> just typing in "nmap localhost"
[05:28] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: well, you could check with netstat whether there is something listening
[05:28] <Fuchs> nmap is a bit of an overkill if you are using it on the actual host that you are scanning
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> Fuchs, and saegeoff I get "Not shown: 998 closed ports"
[05:28] <saegeoff> psil, it is good to have ufw running because when you install things, you may forget to block them
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> only shows domain and ip
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> or something open
[05:28] <saegeoff> psil, that is OK
[05:28] <saegeoff> just do ufw enable
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> i did
[05:28] <saegeoff> and that will enable the firewall with no exceptions
[05:29] <nicklas> hello, is my problem a known bug or something?
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> but would that affect somthing like torrent downloads?
[05:29] <Fuchs> Psil0Cybin: pretty sure that in the default setting there should be not much or nothing listening to requests from outside localhost, so you should be fine.
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> or is that a silly question
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> like throatle it , etc?
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> would I need to set permissions for torrents in ufw? or is that differnet?
[05:29] <Fuchs> the thing that could affect torrent (or similar) downloads is probably more the forwarding options on your router, if you are behind one
[05:29] <saegeoff> no, because that is different
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> phenominal
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> you guys are incredible :D
[05:29] <Psil0Cybin> <3
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> mad probs saegeoff and Fuchs
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> props*
[05:30] <saegeoff> no problem
[05:35] <fenixfunk> does anyone know of a picuntu or rockchip ubuntu related channel?
[05:46] <Flannel> Ignore that.
[05:46] <tonystark> hey anyone help me no sound in xubuntu
[05:46] <tonystark> log in and log off sound plz
[05:50] <toothe> gah, I have an old version of python-twisted on my machine.
[05:50] <toothe> I can't seem to upgrade it.
[05:54] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações!
[06:02] <jpickett> how does one change the font in the nautilus file manager? I just installed 14.04 and is seems to be using the generic font that fedora uses and not an Ubuntu font
[06:05] <MrCurious> anyone know the trick to installing openstack icechouse on 14.04?
[06:13] <jonbr_000> im am upgrading my development environment from ubuntu 12.04 32bit server to 64bit. I have run into a strange problem. When i import my sql tables i keep getting mysql error 1114 table full. I preformed a clean install of ubuntu 12.04 i386 with same default lamp setting and i can import without any problems.
[06:14] <gharz> hi, guys. i'm having having a bad day when i upgraded to 14.04. after upgrading, i got this error "Serious errors were found while checking the disk drive for /" and the options are I to ignore, S to skip mounting and M for manual recover.
[06:15] <pepee> !amd
[06:15] <pepee> !search amd
[06:15] <pepee> !more
[06:15] <jonbr_000> gharz to answer you problem "The message says some errors were found on the filesystem which fsck is afraid to fix automatically, so you need to do it manually. To do this, press M when it prompts you - this will drop you into a emergency root console. From there you'll be able to run"
[06:16] <jonbr_000> fsck /dev/sda1
[06:16] <jonbr_000> where /dev/sda1 is the name of your /boot partition. You can see the list of partitions by doing fdisk -l.
[06:16] <gharz> thanks,, jonbr_000 ... my fstab http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289398/
[06:17] <amtkhdkr> hi,can anyone please take a look at this http://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee
[06:17] <amtkhdkr> need help asap
[06:17] <Packjam> morning
[06:17] <gharz> jonbr_000: i installed ubuntu originally on wubi and i just keep on upgrading it.
[06:17] <|\n> on a laptop with discrete nvidia alongside intel graphics should there be PRIME Profiles section in nvidia settings on 14.04 with nvidia-331-updates?
[06:17] <jonbr_000> morning Packjam
[06:18] <guo> hi
[06:19] <pero_p> hi, how to restart ftpd ?
[06:20] <pero_p> i used $ sudo service ftpd restart but it says service unrecognized, but the ftpd is installed and working
[06:20] <RenoHal>  amtkhdkr: are you using xedgers repository?
[06:20] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, i'm not sure what you are talking about, what is it?
[06:21] <RenoHal> ok.. more than likely not then.. you have to configure it yourself. I'll keep pondering
[06:21] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: do you see ftpd running in ps aux?
[06:22] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, yes
[06:22] <django> how do you put ubuntu 12.04 to hibernate
[06:23] <amtkhdkr> django: http://askubuntu.com/questions/94754/how-to-enable-hibernation
[06:24] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: you using vsftpd?
[06:24] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: can you pastbin this: find /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d -ls -exec cat {} \;
[06:25] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i installed using: apt-get install ftpd
[06:25] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: maybe try sudo /etc/init.d/ftpd restart
[06:25] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i login into ftp and it said: FTP server (Version 6.4/OpenBSD/Linux-ftpd-0.17)
[06:26] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, the point is there is no /etc/init.d/ftpd !!
[06:26] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i think i should restart whole server :(
[06:27] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289437/
[06:27] <SKELETR0N> pero_p: ya or get vsftpd http://askubuntu.com/questions/323868/how-do-i-install-a-ftp-server
[06:28] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, thanks :)
[06:30] <pero_p> SKELETR0N, i think this ftpd is not very good! options are less and too many exploit found during just once search in google!
[06:30] <jesselb> Does anyone know how I can install Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 (I didn't want to install the ubuntu-gnome distro -- i want to install gnome into the original ubuntu)
[06:30] <cfhowlett> jesselb sudo apt-get installl gnome
[06:31] <jesselb> cfhowlett: thanks.  is that going to get everything?
[06:31] <cfhowlett> jesselb ??? desktop environment only not the apps
[06:31] <jesselb> cfhowlett: thanks.  do you know how I can install the apps as well?
[06:31] <jesselb> I mean, aside from what is in the default ubuntu installation
[06:32] <cfhowlett> jesselb wait one
[06:32] <jesselb> thanks
[06:32] <gre-> any dev around?
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !gnome-ubuntu
[06:32] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-gnome
[06:32] <gre-> i got a problem with fullscreen in minecraft
[06:32] <gre-> windows game become transparent
[06:33] <gre-> and im forced to restart the game
[06:33] <gre-> :/
[06:33] <cfhowlett> jesselb it SHOULD be sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:33] <jesselb> Thanks! i'll give it a try
[06:33] <RenoHal> still researching amtkhdkr.. don't leave me =)
[06:33] <amtkhdkr> i'm still here RenoHal :)
[06:33]  * amtkhdkr waits anxiously
[06:34] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: are you using an nvidia driver or the nouveau driver?
[06:34] <amtkhdkr> the nvidia one
[06:35] <gre-> anyone? god...
[06:35] <RenoHal> ok
[06:35] <gre-> nobody can answer me?
[06:35] <cfhowlett> !patience|gre-
[06:35] <gre-> ok
[06:35] <gre-> so i got a problem under ubuntu 14.04 with fullscreen when im playing at minecraft
[06:36] <gre-> windows game become transparent with f11, sometimes not all the times
[06:36] <gre-> it looks like a bug
[06:36] <gre-> under 12.04 this problem didn't exist
[06:37] <gre-> id like to know how can i fix that
[06:37] <gre-> can you help?
[06:37] <cfhowlett> jesselb confirmed from the ubuntugnome wiki: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[06:37] <jesselb> Thanks! I appreciate it
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:37] <cfhowlett> jesselb also select "gdm" as display manager when asked
[06:38] <silv3r_m00n> i have a geforce gpu, and vdpau is visible in nvidia-settings, so will movie players like totem use it for video decoding ?
[06:38] <gre-> :(((
[06:38] <gre-> is there a real ubuntu devs channel on freenode?
[06:38] <cfhowlett> !bug|gre-
[06:38] <jesselb> cfhowlett: gdm seems to interfere with nvidia-prime (which i use because i have a optimus nvidia card).  Do you think it'd still be ok if i use LightDM?
[06:38] <gre-> lol
[06:38] <cfhowlett> jesselb NO idea : I use ubuntustudio so my foundation is xfce ...
[06:39] <gre-> i need a pro, not a stupid bot
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, #ubuntu-dev?
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, #ubuntu-dev ?
[06:40] <bluezone> oh nvm
[06:40] <bluezone> gre-, ##ubuntu-dev
[06:40] <bluezone> omg lol
[06:40] <bluezone> i could've sword there was one
[06:40] <bluezone> sworn*
[06:41] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: are using an optimus nvidia card?
[06:42] <jesselb> thanks again, cfhowlett
[06:42] <cfhowlett> jesselb worked?  no problem.  be safe, have fun!
[06:44] <H0und> gre -, the only one that may help on FreeNode is #ubuntu-bugs
[06:45] <marlo> 14.04... can't get out of lock screen - keyboard disabled
[06:45] <_[myth> #ubuntu+1 closed again :P
[06:45] <|\n> nvidia-prime eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things?
[06:46] <gre-> thanks H0und
[06:46] <RenoHal> |\n: can you pastebin what it's wanting to install please?
[06:47] <gre-> nobody answer me there but nice to know a new channel which can provide some help
[06:47] <|\n> RenoHal, sure, http://pastebin.ovrnet.ru/paste/kt1qamzf#L-X+0+hR
[06:50] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, yes i think it is an optimus card
[06:50] <|\n> RenoHal, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[06:50] <|\n> increased degree of readability
[06:50] <helmut_> hi
[06:51] <django> does sudo pm-hibernate use up  battery??
[06:52] <|\n> i just thought that from some point it is *not ok* for some reason
[06:53] <Lost> is lubuntu supported in this chat?
[06:53] <cfhowlett> Lost ask but fyi = #lubuntu
[06:53] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu
[06:54] <RenoHal> what version of ubuntu are u using? ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu?
[06:54] <Lost> well, I'm trying to figure out why youtube doesn't work. It's just a grey box where the video should be. As far as I can tell I have everything downloaded as far as flash and plugins go.
[06:54] <rww> Lost: yes, it's supported both here and in #lubuntu
[06:54] <cfhowlett> !who
[06:54] <|\n> that is questionable, due to the fact i can have lxde alongside lxdm without additional 339 packages which lubuntu-desktop package wants me to have
[06:55] <|\n> RenoHal, ubuntu with lxde
[06:55] <|\n> originally from alternate cd
[06:56] <dually> Lost: did you install lubuntu-restricted-extras?
[06:57] <Lost> dually I'm pretty sure. Let me double check
[06:58] <Lost> dually it says I have ubuntu-restricted-extras. Is there a difference between the two?
[06:58] <gre-> http://osdir.com/ml/ubuntu-bugs/2014-03/msg15135.html
[06:58] <gre-> anyone know how to fix it?
[06:58] <gre-> fullscreen bug on trusty
[06:59] <RenoHal> |\n: have you tried to install the nvidia driver from device manager?
[06:59] <RenoHal> anything 319 and later should support prime
[07:00] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, what happened of my issue?
[07:00] <dually> Lost: that's a good question.  Have you install google-chrome?  Does Youtube work ok in Google-Chrome?
[07:00] <|\n> RenoHal, i don't have one since i removed all the gnome and unity packages, i always went for nvidia-current, this time it is nvidia-331-updates installed
[07:00] <Lost> dually did not install chrome. I can try if you give me a second
[07:01] <dually> Lost: with google-chrome you have to download the deb from www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/
[07:01] <cfhowlett> Lost make it easy on yourself.  purge ubuntu restricted extras, install lubuntu restricted extras.  They are in different packages for a reason
[07:03] <H0und> Gre- does the same problem happen when you use Flash players?
[07:03] <macscam1> Hey everybody. My volume is not muting from the speakers when I plug in headphones ...
[07:04] <macscam1> can sum1 help
[07:05] <macscam1> : [
[07:05] <dually> mascam1: do you have pavucontrol installed?  That has a nice interface for choosing output.
[07:06] <macscam1> dually no
[07:06] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: try this... locate libGL.so.1
[07:06] <helmut_> hi
[07:06] <|\n> but you need gnome-icon-theme-full package to have correctly looking interface of pavucontrol, which is not on dependency list
[07:07] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289607/
[07:08] <Guest30574> hi all, i am having a small problem with ubuntu, i am using MObile partner 21 for linux , Huawei Modem to connect to internet
[07:08] <gre-> H0und: i dunno
[07:08] <gre-> is it a way to verify it?
[07:09] <Guest30574> but when i minimized it, it get lost , no where, it should minimize to systray just like 12.04 LTS
[07:09] <macscam1> dually any idea how to work pavucontrol doesnt seem to work
[07:09] <Guest30574> I am using 14.04 LTS, how to i whitelist an item to unity systray 14.04
[07:09] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: ok.. well, that's not it. Still looking, but anyone else might know about this?: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289437/
[07:10] <dually> mascam: https://apps.ubuntu.com/cat/applications/pavucontrol/
[07:10] <macscam1> dually oh cool figured it out thanks!!!!!
[07:10] <amtkhdkr> thanks for trying RenoHal
[07:10] <amtkhdkr> i'll hang around and wait if anyone else can help me
[07:10] <RenoHal> sorry, exhausted google  =(
[07:11] <dually> macscam1: :o)
[07:11] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, same here actually :( tried a lot of things, as u can see in the comments on the question
[07:12] <dually> amtkhdkr: you have a laptop with nvidia optimus card?
[07:12] <Lost> cfhowlett I tried uninstalling ubuntu-system-extras and searching for lubuntu-system-extras, but it's not finding it in lubuntu software center
[07:12] <amtkhdkr> to others, i'm having a problem with optirun http://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee please help me asap, thanks
[07:12] <dually> Lost: `apt install lubuntu-restricted-extras`
[07:12] <cfhowlett> Lost run a terminal    sudo apt-get install lubuntu-restricted-extras
[07:13] <Guest30574> anybody here, if could help  me to white list an item to appear in unity systray
[07:13] <Guest30574> i am using 14.04
[07:13] <amtkhdkr> dually yes it is a lenovo laptop and i suppose it is optimus too. I can run optimus on my windows 7 os, don't know why it is not working here
[07:13] <Guest30574> and it is necessary to whitelist
[07:14] <Lost> I guess it worked. let me get a pastebin going
[07:14] <H0und> Gre- testing a youtube video would be the immediate way. However, I am asking more for the point of if your problem is local to launching a game and not videos in general.
[07:15] <Lost> http://pastebin.com/iyK3EPZX
[07:15] <dually> amtkhdkr:  I don't think you can just install nVidia driver
[07:15] <Lost> I still get a grey screen
[07:16] <DestinyAwaits> holstein: there?
[07:16] <amtkhdkr> dually, RenoHal I don't mind completely dumping my integrated gpu (intel hd 3000). i'll be happy to use only nVidia
[07:16] <DestinyAwaits> sudo apt-get update lots of URL are throwing 403??
[07:16] <amtkhdkr> dually, what do you suggest?
[07:16] <dually> amtkhdkr:  did you try installing the nvidia driver with either bumblebee or with the new nVidia-prime thingy?
[07:18] <amtkhdkr> dually, as far as i  read, the only way i can use my nvidia driver is through optirun. as u can see in the question, that gives an error
[07:18] <amtkhdkr> is there anything else i can do?
[07:18] <Guest30574> how to reverse scroll direction in ubuntu 14.04
[07:19] <gre-> H0und: on youtube its ok
[07:19] <gre-> i manually set fullscreen mode
[07:19] <gre-> and it works well
[07:19] <NicoX> hi
[07:20] <H0und> hmm okay
[07:20] <dually> amtkhdkr: so you did (or did not) install nVidia with bumblebee or with Nvidia-prime?
[07:21] <amtkhdkr> dually: i followed the ubuntu wiki on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee#Installation.I don't know if that's installed my gpu or not. I also don't care much about power consumption right now,so no issues if i don't use bumblebee. I just want to be able to use my nvidia gpu,that's all i care about right now
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> hi all, i am using ubuntu 14.04 and it is much faster than 12.04 , but how to whitelist an item from unity system tray, i need to whitelist , but there is no tutorial of its kind for ubuntu 14.04 and i also installed dconf editor, but theree is not setting  in >org>desktop>unity
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> how to solve that
[07:21] <kkkkkdfkkdf> ??
[07:21] <sddhrthrt> I'm using matlab on ubuntu.
[07:22] <sddhrthrt> When I play anything, I get an error : http://pastebin.com/DBEsPjWC
[07:22] <mark__> anyone know how to get to the login screen on ubuntu server?
[07:23] <|\n> nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:23] <sddhrthrt> play as in wavplay or soundsc.
[07:24] <rigved> mark__: you should be getting a terminal login screen on ubuntu server, when it is booted
[07:24] <Bray90820> What number would i use to have read and execute  permissions  on a file
[07:24] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: I did happen to find this: http://sagark.org/optimal-ubuntu-graphics-setup-for-thinkpads/
[07:24] <noorideen> if i need some help with php where to go?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !php
[07:25] <dastaan> read and exec will be 5 @ bray
[07:25] <|\n> noorideen, #php ?
[07:25] <noorideen> yea no one is answering me there :D
[07:26] <dastaan> php ?
[07:26] <dastaan> shoot
[07:26] <dastaan> :)
[07:26] <SuperFireAl> Is 14.04 loaded with amazon spyware too ?
[07:26] <rigved> noorideen: if you have queries related to php on ubuntu, you can ask on #ubuntu-server as well
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: It's loaded with as much amazon spyware as 13.10 is.
[07:27] <noorideen> thank you!
[07:27] <|\n> SuperFireAl, just go with alternate or server image and don't pick up canonical stuff if paranoid
[07:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> SuperFireAl, no, its taken out by default
[07:27] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal: I'll try it out and post back :) thankyou!
[07:27] <SuperFireAl> rww: What about the subBuntu's ?
[07:27] <Aki-Thinkpad> (I think; its at least planned to)
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: the what?
[07:27] <SuperFireAl> Like Lubuntu, etc
[07:27] <kkkkkdfkkdf> hello everyone??
[07:27] <RenoHal> np.. let me know! =)
[07:27] <dually> amtkhdkr: have you tried adding your user to the bumblebee group?  Maybe it's a permissions issue.  I'm guessing here. Also, did you install the kernel-headers?
[07:27] <rww> SuperFireAl: none of them use Unity's search interface, so they don't search Amazon, no
[07:28] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: from India?
[07:28] <SuperFireAl> rww: OK , might as well grab one of those instead.
[07:28] <|\n> SuperFireAl, derivatives come with *-desktop packages, if paranoid it's not an option i suspect
[07:28] <zhz> Hi
[07:28] <amtkhdkr> yes i'm a user in bumblebee group and yes i have linux kernel-headers too :)
[07:28] <rww> not sure where "paranoid" came from
[07:28] <amtkhdkr> dually
[07:28] <dastaan> yes
[07:28] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: are you familiar with linux
[07:28] <SuperFireAl> rww: "tired of having to remove stuff from desktop that shouldn't be there" is probably what he means.
[07:28] <dastaan> sorta
[07:29] <|\n> rww, paranoid is when you care much about amazon knowing what porn do you prefer
[07:29] <rww> SuperFireAl: mhm
[07:29] <kkkkkdfkkdf> dastaan: could you help me? regarding whitelisting  a item from UNity systray
[07:30] <kkkkkdfkkdf> many systray icons got hide in ubuntu 14.04 , i was on 12.04 and it was working fine and some commands do not work in 14.04
[07:30] <sddhrthrt> hey guys - do you know why I cant play any sound on matlab?
[07:32] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal, it seems to be some sort of installation of external monitors. Are you sure that's the solution?
[07:32] <zhz>  
[07:34] <stefg> kkkkkdfkkdf: https://launchpad.net/~timekiller/+archive/unity-systrayfix?field.series_filter=saucy has some interesting explanation. I'm afraid you'll have to run a patched version of unity (which hasn't been built yet) to be able to that
[07:35] <kkkkkdfkkdf> stefg: let me see
[07:35]  * stefg hates the defunction-desease which spreads around UI developers lately. I'll call that un-development
[07:35] <clue_h> stefg, the removal of features?
[07:36] <stefg> yeah
[07:36] <RenoHal> amtkhdkr: well that would be one of the benefits of having the driver installed, but the commands it's giving you should be to get it installed correctly. I would try it myself first, but I don't have an optimus card
[07:37] <stefg> it might be ok to hide something in dconf-keys, but to remove *widely used* functionality altogether is Interface-Naziism.
[07:37] <|\n> nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:37] <stefg> Name F3 dual pane view in nautilus
[07:37] <amtkhdkr> RenoHal ok i'll give it a shot
[07:37] <c2tarun> This might not be relevant to this channel, but wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTioMbNT9I please watch it, its awesome
[07:37] <c2tarun> !amIconnected
[07:38] <c2tarun> This might not be relevant to this channel, but wanted to share this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TTioMbNT9I please watch it, it is awesome
[07:38] <Flannel> c2tarun: Please stop.
[07:38] <c2tarun> Flannel, sorry, I thought I was disconnected last time.
[07:38] <cfhowlett> c2tarun spam is unwelecome
[07:38] <c2tarun> very sorry guys
[07:38] <c2tarun> I wasn't spamming.
[07:38] <Flannel> c2tarun: #ubuntu-offtopic for those sorts of things.
[07:38] <[lutchy]> Hello, what's the development package name openssl? openssl-dev and libopenssl-dev is not coming up with nothing? For Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:38] <c2tarun> Flannel, okie
[07:39] <c2tarun> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <elky> |\n: it looks packages that were previously chosen for installation but never got installed for some reason. are you halfway through an upgrade?
[07:39] <Flannel> c2tarun: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:39] <stefg> !info openssl
[07:39] <|\n> elky, no
[07:39] <stefg> !info libopenssl
[07:39] <crizis> |\n: did you try 'sudo apt-get install -f' first which should finish ongoing package installations
[07:39] <c2tarun> msg ubottu !heartbleed
[07:40] <|\n> crizis, no ongoing packages
[07:40] <[lutchy]> :s
[07:40] <cfhowlett> !heartbleed
[07:40] <[lutchy]> !info libopenssl-dev
[07:40] <[lutchy]> :s
[07:41] <rww> !info libssl-dev
[07:41] <ziyourenxiang> openssl is libssl and libcrypto
[07:41]  * [lutchy] was thinking try libssl-dev....
[07:41] <lotuspsychje> im looking for the command to install the new ubuntu touch on my nexus7, wiki shows still the dev version
[07:41] <[lutchy]> I wasn't too sure
[07:41] <cfhowlett> !touch|lotuspsychje
[07:41] <stefg> [lutchy]: apt-cache search openssl | grep dev  .... it's libssl-*-dev
[07:42] <tk_> hello everybody
[07:43] <tk_> is there anybody
[07:43] <stefg> !hello > tk_
[07:43] <[lutchy]> LOL
[07:44] <[lutchy]> Too late stefg
[07:44] <elky> |\n: well something has happened to your ubuntu for those packages to be not installed
[07:44] <elky> |\n: what have you done recently?
[07:45] <|\n> elky, recently i refused to continue my sad gnome and unity experience in a favor of lxde with lxdm
[07:45] <elky> |\n: and you did this how?
[07:46] <|\n> elky, in a very straight way of removing everything starting with gdm and gnome*
[07:46] <|\n> and unity* and stuff
[07:48] <he1kki> is it common that Apport is using 100% cpu for more than 5min?
[07:49] <elky> |\n: you didn't install lubuntu-desktop?
[07:49] <stefg> he1kki: .... let's say it's not uncommon.
[07:50] <|\n> elky, there is no lubuntu-desktop
[07:50] <he1kki> I thought that it's usually just collecting some debugging data, not doing any heavy calculations
[07:50] <|\n> elky, because when i have lxde and lxdm package installed it wants to fetch 339 packages additionally
[07:50] <stefg> he1kki: apport itself is some PITA.... maybe in 2 years or so it will become atually useful
[07:51] <|\n> about ~450MB
[07:52] <he1kki> stefg: ok, thanks. Killed it.
[07:52] <a_run> would it be alright to install ubuntu-server edition on a laptop ? what features will i have to enable to get it play well on laptop ?
[07:52] <Flannel> |\n: can you please pastebin the output of `sudo apt-get --simulate-only install lubuntu-desktop`
[07:53] <a_run> i don't want unity or any other desktop on my laptop
[07:53] <he1kki> Now that I'm here, I remember some rumours that xorg was meant to be replaced with unity in 14.04?
[07:53] <a_run> i'll be installing dwm on it
[07:53] <stefg> |\n: may i suggest to consider a time comparison between trying to fix a broken mess vs. doing a backup of your /home and maybe /etc and starting over with a clean lubuntu install? That might be more rewarding and avoids further problems in the future
[07:53] <|\n> Flannel, E: Command line option --simulate-only is not understood
[07:53] <belak51> What are good terminal emulators to replace ubuntu-terminal?
[07:54] <elky> Flannel: i think he's missing some important bits in that pile of stuff it wants to install
[07:54] <|\n> stefg, this is a very, very last option whatever the problem is
[07:54] <a_run> belak51: urxvt ?
[07:54] <Flannel> |\n: oh, sorry.  I got mixed up with something else.  It's just "--simulate"
[07:54] <Jordan_U> he1kki: It was Xorg being replaced (as display manager) with Mir, and it didn't end up happening (though it's still plannes for a future release).
[07:54] <belak51> a_run: preferably something with tabs, though that's usually my fallback
[07:54] <stefg> |\n: it's not about feasybility, it's about economic time management
[07:54] <Flannel> elky: I expect when he removed gnome-* he probably also removed his whole graphic environment.  Plus, he's probably upgrading some of these packages too.
[07:54] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289835/
[07:55] <|\n> stefg, such management caused my problems from my perception
[07:55] <Flannel> |\n: Alright, so, what's the issue?
[07:55] <dually> belak51:  I think ubuntu-terminal is actually gnome-terminal, I think they all have tabs.  You might try terminator.
[07:55] <a_run> belak51: sorry don't know then. I use tmux inside urxvt.
[07:55] <he1kki> Jordan_U: Check, thanks.
[07:56] <ts14ic> Good morning here : ) . What log files should I dig in, if my computer sometimes just suddenly freezes? Completely.  Sysrq REISUB isn't working - REI is disabled - , even though sysrq.kernel is set to 1. It happened to me on every version of Ubuntu from 12.04 till now (14.04).
[07:56] <jonbr_000> im having some trouble importing my database after switch from ubuntu 12.04 x386 to ubuntu 12.04 i686 i keep getting mysql error 1114
[07:56] <belak51> a_run: that's a good idea... I'll probably do that
[07:56] <|\n> Flannel, nvidia-prime (nvidia-331-updates already installed) eventually wants me to have 74 new packages, i am not very deep into the subject, but maybe someone could give me a hint please on details like why i should have all those unity and gnome things? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:56] <Flannel> |\n: is it just that this seems like too much to be "right"? and you're looking for confirmation before you do it?
[07:57] <belak51> a_run: do you have a recommended guide or tips for getting started with tmux?
[07:57] <a_run> belak51: yeah, use any term multiplexer. provides lot more power/features compared to tabs
[07:57] <|\n> Flannel, i'm trying to figure out why do i need system-config-printer-gnome and bluez and stuff with nvidia-prime
[07:57] <Flannel> |\n: oh, is that it?
[07:57] <stefg> ts14ic: Can you rule out a dirty or broken fan (thermal problems) or bad ram?
[07:57] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289527/
[07:57] <a_run> belak51: try http://www.danielmiessler.com/study/tmux/
[07:57] <timmoe> Hey guys, I'm installing ubuntu on a notebook with 2GB of RAM, should I take a i386 or a amd64 iso?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> timmoe 32
[07:58] <llutz> |\n: same if you try "apt-get --no-install-recommends install nvidia-prime"?
[07:58] <|\n> llutz, =)
[07:58] <Flannel> |\n: it's because nvidia-prime recommends: unity-greeter or [a number of other greeters], and it picks the first one as a default (if it's configured to install recommends, and it is, by default).
[07:58] <Flannel> |\n: and then unity-greeter wants gconf and all sorts of other stuff.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> timmoe you might consider lubuntu or xubuntu
[07:58] <rww> why on earth does nvidia-prime recommend unity-greeter
[07:58] <timmoe> cfhowlett With 2GB of Ram?!
[07:58] <|\n> Flannel, llutz i don't need lightdm still
[07:59] <|\n> i got lxdm
[07:59] <Flannel> |\n: in that case, do the --no-install-recommends as llutz suggested
[07:59] <stefg> timmoe: I'd use 64bit, although it requires a tad more ram... i386 only if the scope is clearly defined
[07:59] <|\n> Flannel, it goes with lightdm
[07:59] <cfhowlett> timmoe you're questioning the 32 bit or the x/l/ubuntu suggestions
[07:59] <Flannel> Oh, sorry, I was looking at the wrong page.
[07:59] <belak51> a_run: thanks!
[07:59] <|\n> Flannel, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7289858/
[07:59] <timmoe> cfhowlett the bit thing ^^
[07:59] <AhmedA> Hi All, I want to install linux on virtual machine, what you suggest ?
[07:59] <Flannel> rww, |\n: One layer wrong.  nvidia-prime *requires* lightdm, which reocmmends [greeter]
[08:00] <lawnewbie> test
[08:00] <ts14ic> stefg, It happened for two years, since I have this laptop. I had windows 7 on it for half of year and this problem didn't occur back then : ) . The laptop was pretty cold (it happened just before i wrote here). And I also did a ram check before.
[08:00] <lawnewbie> heii
[08:00] <cfhowlett> timmoe generally 4 gb machines are 64 bit ...
[08:00] <lawnewbie> i have problem with my laptop
[08:00] <lawnewbie> anyone can help me again?? :(
[08:00] <rww> Flannel: okay. why on earth does nvidia-prime depend lightdm
[08:00] <Flannel> |\n: There's no way to install nvidia-prime without lightdm (not sure why on earth it does)
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !64
[08:00] <|\n> Flannel, (c) <stefg> |\n: it's not about feasybility, it's about economic time management
[08:00] <Flannel> rww, |\n: which version of Ubuntu is this?  On trusty, there seems to be lightdm/gdm/kdm option
[08:00] <AhmedA> Hi All, I want to install linux on virtual machine, what you suggest ?
[08:00] <|\n> Flannel, 14.04
[08:01] <cfhowlett> AhmedA virtualbox and 32 bit ubuntu
[08:01] <timmoe> Okay, so 64 bit is slower, or why is i386 better?
[08:01] <Flannel> |\n: ok, for you, you get to pick lightdm, gdm, or kdm ;)
[08:01] <AhmedA> virtual box you mean vm?
[08:01] <llutz> lightdm/gdm/kdm but not xdm/lxdm?   maintainer on speed?
[08:01] <elky> Flannel: does it depend directly, or does something like nvidia-settings want a dm?
[08:01] <Flannel> rww: because no one would ever want to use nvidia without having one of those three display managers!
[08:01] <Flannel> http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/nvidia-prime
[08:01] <Flannel> I'm not a telephone :P
[08:02] <Flannel> |\n: If you have an aversion to lightdm (without recommends, it might be easier to just install it and not use it), then you can create your own dummy package to satisfy that dependency.
[08:02] <AStorm> I'd say blame antiquated dpkg deps
[08:02] <AStorm> you cannot have a virtual dependency there
[08:02] <lawnewbie> heiii
[08:02] <lawnewbie> why my battery there;s estimating?
[08:02] <AStorm> (need to inject a fake package that depends on all dms
[08:02] <thirupathi> hello
[08:02] <Flannel> AStorm: sure you can.
[08:02] <stefg> ts14ic: I'd use some utility distro like systemrecuecd and have it running a ram test overnight. Your primary log should be dmesg and /var/log/syslog, but if you have a hardware problem it's hard to track down by these
[08:03] <AhmedA> virtualbox you mean vmware?
[08:03] <|\n> Flannel, since new waves of unity and lightdm stuff appeared in my life i constantly was facing some warnings, glitches and other things from dm's i never needed =)
[08:03] <a_run> timmoe: 64-bit isn't slower.  64-bit is usually used when you have more then 4GB of RAM
[08:03] <a_run> you can run 64-bit on yours
[08:03] <AStorm> Flannel, only in a way I've described - otherwise you need to spell out all the alternatives
[08:03] <stefg> !virtualbox | AhmedA
[08:03] <Flannel> |\n: I'm not arguing with you, just telling you your two options (well, and the third would be "don't use nvidia-prime")
[08:04] <|\n> i'd pick vmware if it comes to windoze debugging (if matters, just in case)
[08:04] <ts14ic> stefg, oh, okay. I just feel a bit suspicious, because as I said, I used Windows for half of year, and it didn't happen. Thanks : )
[08:05] <|\n> Flannel, you see, i can figure out that i have only 2 options, again, don't get wrong my attitude, but you already shared my feeling telling that you can't see any real reasons behind this bogus freedom of choice =)
[08:05] <AhmedA> ok thanks
[08:05] <timmoe> So do I have any disadvantages with amd64 on 2 GB of RAM, or is it just unusual?
[08:05] <stefg> ts14ic: the dust in the cooling channel might have agregated later.... (as a smoker i know how a system looks like after 6 months in my room :-) )
[08:05] <AStorm> |\n, yeah, unsupported choice is unsupported
[08:05] <AStorm> you might be better served by another distribution
[08:05] <|\n> AStorm, wise
[08:05] <Flannel> AStorm: If you're not going to help, just be quiet.
[08:06] <llutz> timmoe: it's common to use amd64 now, no problem usually
[08:06] <|\n> AStorm, you're getting me wrong
[08:06] <AStorm> Flannel, help with what? there are plenty broken packages around
[08:06] <clue_h> timmoe, when you upgrade ram you'll notice, no disadvantage though
[08:06] <Flannel> |\n: The dummy package probably isn't too painful, there's tools ("equivs") to help you build a dummy package.
[08:06] <timmoe> llutz Okay, thank you ;)
[08:06] <AStorm> there's a law of inverse testing: the least commonly used packages are the least tested
[08:06] <clue_h> like openssl
[08:06] <Flannel> AStorm: Take the non-support to #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks.
[08:07] <AStorm> talking about support, is there an ubuntu xen kernel?
[08:07] <timmoe> clue_h I don't plan to upgrade the RAM, because it's a older notebook
[08:07] <AStorm> as in, dom0
[08:07] <ts14ic> stefg, suddenlt, I'm no smoker : D . But I have a cat :D . Btw, I had sent this laptop to techservice after an year of usage (meaning It worked with Linux half of year already). So, they made a dust cleaning or something oO .
[08:07] <newbuntu> anyone seem to enter  https://launchpad.net ?
[08:07] <fariyad> hi
[08:07] <AStorm> newbuntu, works fine
[08:07] <|\n> Flannel, yeah i'd go with it, but still, fetching lubuntu-desktop when having lxde/lxdm wants 339 packages additionally; pvaducontrol needs gnome-icon-theme-full, which is not even on dependency list; and such and so on, something is going wrong :<
[08:08] <newbuntu> can't enter the website
[08:08] <Flannel> |\n: If you want bare bones, use --no-install-recommends
[08:08] <AStorm> |\n, did the usual clean, check, autoclean dance? (apt-get commands)
[08:08] <AStorm> oh, and that
[08:08] <Flannel> |\n: Most of those things are recommends from subpackages, so it can be pared down.
[08:09] <Flannel> But, you're getting Xorg and stuff, since you inadvertantly removed them
[08:09] <ts14ic> stefg, Okay. I have downloaded systemrescuecd. Now I'll hope that it won't freeze during the check :D
[08:09] <AStorm> sorry, I meant check and autoremove
[08:09] <AStorm> old packages can cause silly things to be pulled too
[08:09] <stefg> ts14ic: even if it does you have gained some info...
[08:10] <AStorm> (in that order, do *not* run autoremove before check, you might hose the system)
[08:10] <stefg> ts14ic: and let it run overnight... bad ram might only show after many check-runs
[08:10] <|\n> aha, got it, no recommends is my very friend, just pointing out (it's better to say, rather than keep silence, right?) thanks Flannel AStorm elky crizis
[08:11] <ts14ic> stefg, I'll keep that in mind : ) . Thanks )
[08:11] <fariyad> hello budies
[08:11] <elky> |\n: it would be worth making sure there's a bug filed about it
[08:11] <Flannel> |\n: If you want to keep that, you can change your apt configs permanently.
[08:11] <elky> |\n: at least you might get an answer from it, if nothing else
[08:11] <ts14ic> stefg, Oh, I just found out, that REISUB was working. Meaning, it was a very complete freeze.
[08:11] <|\n> Flannel, yeah, i'm surprised by my own stupidity actually
[08:12] <c2tarun> I want to share some files over LAN. I have one shared folder, I don't want to create multiple shared folders. Also I don't want to copy a file everytime I want to share it. Is it possible to create a shared folder and somehow create a link in that shared folder to all the files I want to share?
[08:12] <|\n> elky, i'll consider this after reflexing on my past experience :D
[08:12] <stefg> ts14ic: which is another indication for a hardware problem...
[08:12] <Flannel> |\n: it's in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ but I don't know which of those files (just browse, the config options are all pretty verbose)
[08:12] <|\n> i know that part, Flannel thank you
[08:13]  * stefg imagines a bulk of cat hair in ts14ic's laptops  fan bearings
[08:14] <ts14ic> stefg, well. Wouldn't it overheat if it really had all this hair in  it?
[08:14] <|\n> there are much, much worse things when you often disassemble someone's laptops
[08:14] <ts14ic> cockroaches OO
[08:15] <|\n> i've seen a dead bee instead, but that is already offtopic
[08:15] <roeulogy_> elastics, figernail clippings, dried fluids.... seen some nasty stuff inside computers
[08:16] <stefg> ts14ic: yeah, but overheating can be a very local issue. if just the cpu fan isn't running but a (possible) other fan does the overall box can still be cool, while the cpu is seating at 90°C
[08:16] <clue_h> roeulogy_, even windows?
[08:17] <ts14ic> stefg, would it be a good idea, if I install a heat monitor till night "arrives" : ) ?
[08:17] <roeulogy_> unfortunantly yes, but a lot of buildup of anything really would cause an overheating issue
[08:18] <roeulogy_> i've seen too much thermal past rise temps 15 over normal
[08:18] <clue_h> i generally get loads of dust
[08:18] <marcosscriven> Question about getting SATA/AHCI working on a netbook that doesn't allow me to set it in the BIOS. It's an ICH7-M chipset. I tried the setpci method here: http://f.osdev.org/viewtopic.php?t=27229&p=228183
[08:18] <marcosscriven> but grub then just says the disk is not found
[08:19] <|\n> roeulogy_, some people just think that moar paste means moar cooling
[08:19] <stefg> ts14ic: I think it's not necessary. the general methodology would be: 1. rule out hardware defects, done by runnung a diagnostic disk over night. If it passes, look further.
[08:19] <marcosscriven> with lspci I see this: 00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801GBM/GHM (ICH7-M Family) SATA Controller [IDE mode] (rev 02)
[08:20] <ts14ic> stefg, okay. Thanks :  )
[08:21] <roeulogy_> stefg is correct, rule out hardware first, even if it means disconnecting everything you can and bringing it back to basics
[08:28] <ts14ic> A second question. I can't disable grub menu timeout. Back to 12.04, I manually edited grub.cfg (crazy) and found a nifty test statement, which said if timeout is set to 0, set it to 10. (o_O) . I edited that, and timeout disappeared. How can I fix this timeout in 14.04?
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[08:35] <jesselb> Recently installed 14.04 and Totem is having issues.  Takes about 15 seconds to load every file (audio or video).  Each time, it appears to be on the verge of crashing before loading the file.  never had this problem before and VLC loads them fine.  Anyone know what the cause of this problem is?
[08:37] <alberto> ciao
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, what type of files are they?
[08:38] <Bray90820> this may or may not be the right place to ask this but
[08:38] <Bray90820> What variable is used to control the maximum number of commands saved during a session?
[08:38] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, I have been having troubles with m4a's
[08:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> Bray90820, for terminal sessions?
[08:39] <llutz> Bray90820: $HISTSIZE (bash)
[08:39] <Bray90820> Aki-Thinkpad: yes
[08:39] <Bray90820> llutz: thanks
[08:39] <Aki-Thinkpad> ^llutz
[08:40] <Bray90820> Tahnks
[08:40] <jesselb> aki-thinkpad: ive tried mp3, wmv, and some others... seems to be every file
[08:40] <MktWizard108> join
[08:41] <jesselb> Ali-Thinkpad: even when I just load totem with no file, it takes about 10-15 seconds (and almost crashes) before loading into its normal starts screen
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, I am not expert enough in this. VLC works fine; what about rhythmbox?
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, does it give you a crash report?
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: That works fine as well
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, also just to make sure; what version of ubuntu are you running?
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: No crash report.  It doesnt actually crash, but almost done
[08:41] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: 14.04
[08:41] <jesselb> but almost does*
[08:41] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, strange
[08:42] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, so you don't have to kill it?
[08:42] <crizis> jesselb: might be far fetched but check if you have any plugins on (like subtitle downloader) that could jam it
[08:42]  * Aki-Thinkpad wonders if totem has a debugger
[08:42] <roel> Why does this not work with instructions of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution ? "1920x1080_60.00"  173.00  1920 2048 2248 2576  1080 1083 1088 1120 -hsync +vsync
[08:42] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: the first few times I would kill it because I thought it was crashed, but now i just let it load
[08:42] <crizis> jesselb: edit > plugins
[08:42] <volkan> To find and copy why we write {}, \ and ; ? Can someone explain find and copy command?
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, and it doesnt sound like it could be a partition thing...
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, how is your ram?
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> is it loading it to swap perhaps?
[08:43] <jesselb> crizis: Hmmm I dont see an edit menu.  do you know where that is?
[08:43] <llutz> volkan: "man find " (-exec ....)
[08:43] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: 32GB  of RAM :)
[08:43] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, o_O
[08:44] <roeulogy_> anybody have a simple solution to getting oracle java into 14.04?
[08:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> oh brother... lol
[08:44] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, run totem in terminal, see if it outputs anything
[08:44] <roel> Here is the log: http://paste.org/71927
[08:44] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad : unfortunately, it doesnt output anything :(
[08:45] <Aki-Thinkpad> hmmmm
[08:45]  * Aki-Thinkpad checks for debugger
[08:45] <jesselb> thanks for your help
[08:46] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, try totem --debug
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> hello all
[08:46] <Aki-Thinkpad> its not in the man page, but it apparently exists
[08:46] <yellabs-r2> is there a way to auto boot into "guestsession"  instead of regular user ( for library use )
[08:47] <crizis> jesselb: http://pasteboard.co/2gytEX5x.png
[08:47] <hutch> Ubuntu love rekindled with 14.04 kudos
[08:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, wait a minute
[08:47] <Aki-Thinkpad> sorry first you have to install totem debug from the software center
[08:47] <hutch> group hug lol
[08:47] <jesselb> Ali-Thinkpad: unfortunately it is outputting nothing
[08:47] <jesselb> oh i'll try that
[08:48] <jesselb> crizis: unfortunately I dont see that on mine.  Not in the top panel nor in the top of the program
[08:48] <crizis> has to be there :)
[08:49] <roel> who can help me?
[08:50] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: Unfortunately, i ran totem --debug after installing totem-dbg, but it doesnt output anything
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> roel,  might want to try askubuntu;
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, yah it doesnt seem like the best debugger
[08:50] <roel> ok
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, funky idea; try running totem as root
[08:50] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, to see if there is a local config mucking with it
[08:51] <jesselb> crizis: that's a nice page... i'll have to remember it.  unfortunately it didnt work when i loaded up totem: http://pbrd.co/1jlCmED
[08:52] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: That worked! it loaded up instantly
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, :P
[08:52] <jesselb> Oh, wait... no... it just started to crash again
[08:52] <jesselb> sorry.  false alarm
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, :o
[08:52] <jesselb> But it was different this time haha. It got my hopes up :)
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, i don't know if this still exists
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> but try the xine backend
[08:52] <roel> where can i find ASKUBUNTU for my displays setting help?
[08:52] <Aki-Thinkpad> I assume you are using gstreamer
[08:53] <Aki-Thinkpad> roel, www.askubuntu.com
[08:53] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: I am, but I did install gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg, which those "10 things to do after installing ubuntu 14.04" pages said.  Should I try it without?
[08:53] <roel> ok
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, at this point; its just groping in the dark
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> couldnt hurt :P
[08:54] <jesselb> thanks
[08:54] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, At the end of it; might want to submit a bug report
[08:55] <jesselb> Aki-Thinkpad: Thanks.  will do.  I'll try a few things.  I appreciate your time with this
[08:55] <jesselb> have a good day!
[08:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> jesselb, #gstreamer would probably be interested in this bug
[08:55] <Aki-Thinkpad> !askubuntu
[08:55] <stephans> On EXT4, how do I set a mount option that forces any file crated to be a given user and a given group with certain permissions?
[08:56] <llutz> stephans: use ACLs
[08:56] <stephans> llutz, really..? I thought that only set permissions on existing files and folders?
[08:57] <volkan> Any tutorial about piping commands?
[08:58] <llutz> stephans: nope, you'll have to use ACLs to do that and probably setgid too
[08:58] <bluedawg> yeah do some research
[08:59] <llutz> volkan: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/InputAndOutput
[08:59] <volkan> llutz, thanks!
[08:59] <zandaga> hi guys, i have a problem with the upgrade can i ask my question here?
[09:01] <Archos> Don't know for sure if I can help you, but let's give it a try.
[09:01] <llutz> zandaga: ask away and see
[09:01] <zandaga> great,thanks
[09:02] <zandaga> so i burned the upgrade into a usb flash drive,started it , i had an io problem,the usb stick had an error in the middle of the upgrade
[09:03] <Archos> Ouch
[09:03] <zandaga> all my files in the home directory are intact no problem
[09:03] <zandaga> thing is i do a weekly backup with deja-dup it backsup all my important files
[09:04] <zandaga> including the www folder...but for some reason the backup of the day before didn't include the recent change to my php files
[09:04] <zandaga> so they are not up to date
[09:04] <zandaga> i would like to know if somehow i can recover those files
[09:05] <marcosscriven> does anyone here know about using setpci in grub to enable SATA mode? I've tried various things at it just hangs
[09:05] <zandaga> does the process of upgrading store them in a temp
[09:05] <zandaga> or something....
[09:05] <Bray90820> what would "fc echo" do in a terminal
[09:05] <Archos> zandaga: have you tried running a live-cd?
[09:06] <zandaga> now i'm on another linux distro i can see all the files my home directory hasn't been touched
[09:06] <zandaga> (sorry for my english)
[09:07] <Archos> zandaga: do you know which partition you root partion is? (lsblk)
[09:07] <Archos> *your
[09:09] <zandaga> no not really ( i ve ran thecommand the root / is sda2 )
[09:11] <minu> i've updated to 14.04, but the upgrade didn't finish in a proper state, and now when i do apt-get dist-upgrade, i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7290233/
[09:12] <Archos> zandaga try: sudo mkdir /media/myroot && sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/myroot
[09:12] <cfhowlett> minu as on line 24 : sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[09:14] <zandaga> done
[09:14] <zandaga> the partition is up and running the myroot folder
[09:14] <Archos> zandaga: you should then be able to view your files under /media/myroot
[09:14] <zandaga> yes i can
[09:14] <zandaga> still can't find the www in var
[09:15] <Sonikk> hi, is there a known problem with mounting Lumia 920 via USB-cable?
[09:15] <Sonikk> or is it just me
[09:16] <c2tarun> I want to share some files over LAN. I have one shared folder, I don't want to create multiple shared folders. Also I don't want to copy a file everytime I want to share it. Is it possible to create a shared folder and somehow create a link in that shared folder to all the files I want to share?
[09:17] <gabriele> Hi all
[09:17] <Lunux_> Elo.
[09:17] <Lunux_> PING PONG, KURNA
[09:17] <Archos> zandaga: sigh... okay
[09:17] <cfhowlett> Lunux_ ask your ubuntu support questions
[09:17] <Archos> ehh
[09:18] <Con7e> Hi Folks
[09:19] <Archos> andaga: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164912/after-12-04-upgrade-var-www-is-missing
[09:20] <Lunux_> Elo.
[09:20] <Archos> zandaga: http://askubuntu.com/questions/164912/after-12-04-upgrade-var-www-is-missing
[09:22] <zandaga> Archos: yeah i get it ;) now i'm defintly not storing my web dev files there
[09:22] <Archos> zandaga: maybe you could run testdisk, but I have no experience in how to work with that, so you should probably better read up on it.
[09:23] <zandaga> maybe , thanks for your time anyway, i did learn a valuable lesson ;)
[09:23] <tapamo> Hi to all
[09:23] <rbrian> got a question, when a kernel panic says "system input/output error", what does that mean? Is the processor, DMA, IDE/Sata controller, USB or RAM bad?
[09:24] <rbrian> I know windows was never that clear.
[09:24] <tapamo> I'm having problems since I've upgraded my system from 13.10 to 14.04 (ubuntu-desktop is missing)
[09:24] <tapamo> any solution ?
[09:25] <rbrian> tapamo, try sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop. Seems the metapackage is missing. You'll probably want to install synaptic too.
[09:25] <rbrian> tapamo, also, you'll need to do that from a terminal window.
[09:26] <tapamo> Thanks rbrian, I did that but the problem remains
[09:26] <rbrian> tapamo shoot, that sucks. ;/
[09:26] <tapamo> Everything I'm doing is from terminal
[09:26] <Archos> zandaga: Yeah, well me too. Good luck! :)
[09:27] <rbrian> I don't get why synaptic and gdebi was removed from ubuntu.
[09:27] <rbrian> both are 100% useful and mandatory if you don't wanna use the ubuntu software center at all.
[09:28] <tapamo> sure, synaptic is far better than software center
[09:29] <david> nick Doubleman
[09:29] <rbrian> tapamo, synaptic enables you to fix broken packages and dependencies too, something canonical/ubuntu never thought twice about when they decided to exclude it.
[09:29] <Popcan> I am currently running steam through wine when i run spelunky everything works great but as soon as i press anything on the keyboard there is an instant error
[09:29] <Doubleman> Can anyone help me with a version.h file for kernel-headers? How do I create one?
[09:29] <tapamo> this is exactly what I have as output from sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:30] <tapamo> ubuntu-desktop : Depends: ubuntu-session but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tapamo>                   Recommends: empathy but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tapamo> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages
[09:30] <rbrian> Popcan, there should be a native steam client somewhere.
[09:30] <rbrian> tapamo, do you happen to have synaptic installed?
[09:31] <Popcan> rbrian yeah... the one thats in the ubuntu software center im using wine because spelunky doesnt support linux hence the point of using wine
[09:31] <tapamo> Yes it was install since 13.10
[09:31] <rbrian> Popcan, I see.
[09:31] <kervala> hi there :)
[09:32] <Popcan> rbrian do you know how to fix thia
[09:32] <Con7e> My friends
[09:32] <rbrian> Popcan, unfortunately no, I wish I did however.
[09:32] <Con7e> How can I purge Ubuntu from it's shit, and only keep Awesome WM
[09:32] <Con7e> ?
[09:32] <Con7e> I mean no Unity & Stuff
[09:33] <rbrian> Con7e, you could choose a window manager before logging in. session icon or menu allows that.
[09:33] <tapamo> Popcan, try to change the windows system in wine configurations
[09:33] <tubo> party
[09:33] <minu> cfhowlett: after a few updates and upgrades, now i get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7290351/, and fix-missing doesn't help
[09:33] <Con7e> @rbrian I know, but I'd still have my hdd full of shit I don't want
[09:33] <rbrian> tapamo, run synaptic (type sudo synaptic from the terminal, enter password when prompted), let me know.
[09:34] <kervala> Please someone could tell me if we need to install open-source packages in Ubuntu Software Center in /opt/<package> or /opt/extras.ubuntu.com/<package> ? I'm the packager of Ryzom MMORPG and currently it's installed in /opt/ryzom
[09:34] <rahulrrixe>  /msg NickServ identify rahul4263
[09:34] <cfhowlett> pcso#23
[09:35] <rbrian> con7e, maybe linux mint 13 or 17 this ending of may, would be recommended.
[09:35] <cfhowlett> minu 404 = the source url is faulty - maybe temporary.  either wait or change your software source mirror in update settings sources
[09:36] <minu> cfhowlett: how?
[09:36] <nafis> hey
[09:36] <tapamo> this is the result in synaptic "Could not apply changes!
[09:36] <tapamo> Fix broken packages first"
[09:36] <rbrian> okay, hold up a sec.
[09:37] <cfhowlett> minu system > update manager > software sources > ubuntu software > Download software from:   CHANGE THIS
[09:37] <rbrian> tapamo, running it on my end, in a moment i'll guide you what to click
[09:37] <minu> ty i'll try
[09:38] <tapamo> thanks
[09:38] <rbrian> tapamo, click Edit > Fix Broken Packages
[09:38] <rbrian> tapamo, then try again with what you wanted to install/remove, etc.
[09:39] <tapamo> I did it, this is the result "E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[09:39] <tapamo> E: Unable to correct dependencies
[09:39] <tapamo> "
[09:39] <vs73nx> hello, i am having a bit of grief with sudo dpkg --configure -a. when i run it i get this output > http://hastebin.com/luguxutupo.vhdl. it freezes at this output and remains unresponsive untill i do CTRL-Z.
[09:40] <rbrian> tapamo, thats very odd, what were you doing before that occurred?
[09:40] <rbrian> tapamo, also it might just be that a repository was down or something, it happened to me before.
[09:40] <tapamo> I just upgraded from ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04
[09:41] <tapamo> before that everything was ok
[09:41] <vs73nx> this problem appeared when i upgraded to 14.04
[09:42] <rbrian> tapamo, I recommend backing up the home folder (keeping the .mozilla if you use firefox) and skipping the rest, and clean installing 14.04.
[09:43] <rbrian> tapamo, sometimes a clean install is best, upgrading does have it's woes.
[09:43] <tapamo> Thanks a lot for your help.
[09:44] <rbrian> tapamo, no problem.
[09:44] <Guest91226> is it normal for xubuntu 14.04 livecd to identify as kubuntu everywhere?
[09:44] <cfhowlett> Guest91226 a b normal
[09:44] <Guest91226> cfhowlett, i don't see it mentioned anywhere in the release notes
[09:44] <rbrian> Guest91266 it might be a glitch with whoever compiled it OR if you installed the kde packages/system, that might be the case.
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> where can i disable guest account in trusty?
[09:45] <lotuspsychje> and hide usernames at login
[09:46] <Guest91226> rbrian, i am using the livecd, no extra packages installed. it was downloaded from xubuntu.org
[09:46] <rbrian> Guest91266 strange, it's probably affecting everybody then. Perhapse installing and then updating it might fix it entirely.
[09:46] <vs73nx> is anyone able to help me with my dpkg problem?
[09:46] <Viccie> Hi, reading a lot about errors with grub when doing (even) a fresh install of 14.04... How can update grub to the latest version in advance?
[09:48] <rbrian> vs73nx if you haven't already installed the missing synaptic, and it is a dependency issue or broken packages... I wish I had advanced knowledge on how to fix it in the terminal, myself is lacking it.
[09:49] <vs73nx> well is there a way to make dpkg --configure -a skip the problem package?
[09:49]  * rbrian wishes everybody would install synaptic package manager. fixing dependency issues would be a snap of the fingers. Why did canonical exclude it? :/
[09:49] <vs73nx> the error stops synaptic from starting
[09:50] <rbrian> vs73nx well, that is strange.
[09:50] <vs73nx> *it starts but it closes down as soon as it opens
[09:51] <rbrian> vs73nx sounds like a bug. I get that with openshot, it just *will not* remain open when I start the rendering of a video.
[09:51] <vs73nx> output from synaptic > E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:51] <vs73nx> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[09:51] <vs73nx> it isnt a bug, it is a broken package
[09:51] <vs73nx> i was enquiring on how to make dpkg skip the said package
[09:51] <rbrian> vs73nx run the command it told you to use.
[09:52] <vs73nx> did that and now i get this > dpkg: error: parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0084' near line 0:
[09:52] <vs73nx>  newline in field name `#padding'
[09:52] <rbrian> vs73nx that part always confused me, it won't skip. Maybe the cache needs to be cleared somehow
[09:53] <isabelle>  hello everyone, I have some trouble with my laptop keyboard, after an update last week, it doesn't work anymore, so I need to use an USB one instead. is anyone know what to do? reinstall drivers?
[09:53] <vs73nx> hmm maybe i will ask the #debian chaps about this dpkg problem
[09:53] <Guize> Hllo, I'm french so sorry for my english. I've got since yesterday a computer with lubuntu and I don't know how use this OS. Someone can help me please ? :)
[09:53] <Viccie> anyone can explain how to prevent boot-errors with grub when installing 14.04. I currently am running 13.10. Can I update grub to the right version before hand?
[09:54] <Popcan> vs73nx what linux distro are you using or what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:54] <rbrian> Viccie, I believe you cannot do that since it'll be replaced when you upgrade to the LTS version's supplied version.
[09:54] <Guize> French ?
[09:55] <Viccie> i tried some of the fixes on the forums for my test machine, they didnt work...
[09:55] <Popcan> viccie i suggest getting 14.04 on a usb and installing it deleting the old version completely
[09:55] <Viccie> did that, but guess it didnt remove the bootloader then?
[09:55] <vs73nx> Popcan: kbuntu 14.04
[09:55] <vs73nx> upgraded from 13.10
[09:55] <Popcan> kbuntu?
[09:55] <vs73nx> yeah
[09:56] <vs73nx> kubuntu
[09:56] <vs73nx> whatever it is called
[09:56] <rbrian> Viccie, a clean install is best. That includes formatting of the hard disk.
[09:56] <Popcan> i had simular problem with the current laptop im using
[09:56] <daedeloth> the upgrade tool for 14.04 fails, probably because of some third party packages. Is there a way to detect which are those?
[09:56] <Popcan> i installed the new version on (ubuntu) and everything worked fine
[09:56] <Viccie> well I try .. we'll see :)
[09:56] <rbrian> vs73nx maybe a clean install would do it. I find upgrading has it's woes.
[09:57] <Viccie> its a long easter weekend... lots of time available
[09:57] <rbrian> anyways, gotta hop off.
[09:57] <vs73nx> oh it worked perfectly straight after the upgrade
[09:57] <rbrian> cheers
[09:57] <vs73nx> sudo apt-get autoremove screwed up my system though
[09:58] <Simonor> there is an upgrade option on the iso. maybe you'll have more luck. or wreck it
[10:00] <bongmode> hello
[10:01] <Simonor> BTW, xonar sound card now has microphone support in 14.04.
[10:02] <bongmode> i created a new launcher with menulibre, then deleted the application group "internet" from within menulibre since it created a 2nd one with only the new launcher in it. that was the moment when my gnome desktop disappeared and it doesnt show up anymore on login. can anyone here help me with this? i'd ne really glad :)
[10:02] <ElixirVitae> Hello.
[10:03] <ElixirVitae> How is it possible that I can move video (or any, for that matter) files even when I am watching (reading data) from them?
[10:03] <ElixirVitae> Which is not the case in the windows?
[10:04] <ElixirVitae> Is it about how files are linked in linux or something like that?
[10:04] <minimec> daedeloth: that seems to be a good start... -> see 'Remove Third Party packages' https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CleanUpgrade
[10:04] <daedeloth> thanks, going to take a look
[10:05] <vs73nx> ok fixed the problem... just had to delete all the #padding lines from /var/lib/dpkg/updates/0084
[10:05] <Simonor> I guess either the file is buffered or the file system updates the link to the file rather than physically moving it
[10:06] <ElixirVitae> I don't think it is buffer, because I can move anywhere on the time.
[10:06] <daedeloth> hm, pretty sure it's going be the the xorg :/
[10:06] <newbuntu> how do I set the refresh rate forcing it to go with 60fps ? using 12.04 nvidia driver
[10:07] <Simonor> okay so long peeps.
[10:07] <ElixirVitae> It might be about file system as you said, Simonor.
[10:08] <daedeloth> bah. xorg edgers has killed my upgrade capability
[10:09] <daedeloth> so fresh install it is. bummer.
[10:09] <minimec> daedeloth: Yeah that's was one of my ideas. I would remove the restricted GPU drivers before upgrade, in all cases. You could remove the ppa and do a 'do-release upgrade- on console.
[10:10] <daedeloth> hm for some reason ppa-purge doesn't find the packages
[10:10] <daedeloth> I'm just going to do a clean install
[10:10] <stefano> hello
[10:10] <daedeloth> well, without cleaning /Home
[10:10] <llutz> ElixirVitae: the videoplayer holds the filedescriptor of that file open until it finishes playing, until _then_  the old data will remain
[10:10] <Guest35404> who can help me?
[10:10] <minimec> daedeloth: Not a bad idea with an LTS release.
[10:11] <ElixirVitae> So, moving actually doesn't happen until after video player is closed, llutz?
[10:11]  * lambda Mephistopheles
[10:11] <lambda> me
[10:11]  * lambda nick
[10:11] <roeulogy_> anybody else notice that with apt-cacher ng the client machines are unable to install java via ppa?
[10:11] <daedeloth> let's hope the xorg included in this version works with my setup :)
[10:12] <llutz> ElixirVitae: afaik it more like a "copy" until filedescriptor is freed. you'd check used diskspace  while playing/after
[10:12] <Janusz> Hello. Is there an easy way to run Unity 8 on 14.04?
[10:12] <Guest35404> i'v need to help.......
[10:12] <bongmode> can anyone here help me with my problem? i'd be really glad to have my desktop back :X
[10:12] <ElixirVitae> used diskspace sound good, I should try with a big file.
[10:12] <dannixon> Guest35404: What is the problem?
[10:13] <ElixirVitae> But it is counter-intuitive, one might not have enough space for copying.
[10:13] <ElixirVitae> But is it a "copy" copy or copy copy? As in just the link or the actual file, hmm.
[10:13] <llutz> ElixirVitae: no its always the same. mv = copy +rm   so you'll always need twice the size
[10:15] <llutz> ElixirVitae: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mv#move_versus_copy_and_remove
[10:16] <ElixirVitae> >When moving files to a different file system, all files are copied and then all files are removed. If the copy fails (as in not enough space) none of the original files are removed and all of the copied files remain (and the volume remains full!). If the files are on one volume, an out of space condition cannot occur.
[10:17] <noor_> hi
[10:17] <ElixirVitae> This is different then windows, in the sense that fail effects whole batch, whereas in win just the currently processed one, right?
[10:18] <mrdevries> do you know if the behaviour of Launcher icons (.desktop files) is changed in 14.04?
[10:18] <mrdevries> I installed Sublime Text 2, symlinked it to /usr/bin/sublime etc.
[10:19] <noor_> how to get skypy for ubuntu
[10:19] <mrdevries> now when I open the dash and type "sub" it shows up as /usr/share...xt 2 (UNREGISTERED)
[10:19] <newbuntu> anyone know what setting I should do to set my monitor to 1600x900 ?
[10:20] <noor_> by
[10:20] <vs73nx> noor_: maybe googling skype for linux might help
[10:20] <bazhang> skype is in the partner repo
[10:20] <bazhang> and he quit
[10:21] <guest1234> hi all i did a fresh install of lubuntu but the macchanger didnot work on 14.04 full of bugs
[10:21] <laperr> hi
[10:21] <guest1234> so i installed xubuntu and also not working
[10:21] <guest1234> can somebody help me?
[10:22] <vs73nx> guest1234: define not working...
[10:22] <vs73nx> not starting up? or is it a grub problem?
[10:22] <c2tarun> guest1234, what is macchanger?
[10:23] <guest1234> vs73nx: ok 1 minute i will send u a link
[10:23] <mrdevries> this is weird... typing "sublime" in terminal always opens a new empty file /usr/share/applications/sublime.desktop
[10:23] <bongmode> can anyone here tell me why creating a launcher and then deleting a newly created application group with menulibre makes my gnome desktop disappear?
[10:23] <html> guest1234,  can you please change your name so we can all tell who is talking?
[10:23] <guest1234> it changes the macaddress
[10:23] <guest1234> of the wifi
[10:23] <mrdevries> I tried experimenting with that but didn't work, so deleted that file, could there be a reference to it somewhere?
[10:23] <guest1234> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/376   <<< this tutorial worked on the older version of lubuntu and linux mint/ ubuntu
[10:23] <html> noor are you needing help?
[10:23] <guest1234> but on the 14.04 it doesnot work
[10:24] <newbuntu> anyone know what setting I should do to set my monitor to 1600x900 ?
[10:24] <guest1234> oke i will change my name from guest to  hello1234
[10:25] <hello1234> so can somebodyhelp me?
[10:25] <html> guest1234,  alot of the tutorails seem to to not have ben updated,give it some time like 1-4 weeks.
[10:25] <hello1234> okej thanks
[10:25] <hello1234> last question how can i update ubuntu?
[10:25] <gry> hello1234, yes?
[10:25] <gry> !update
[10:25] <gry> hello1234, see the above
[10:26] <html> hello1234,  well ,when you look for tutorials , only use the lts first.
[10:26] <html> sudo apt-get update
[10:26] <hello1234> thanks html
[10:27] <html> sudo apt-get install update
[10:27] <html> you can tab complete the words in terminal
[10:27] <newbuntu> anyone know what setting I should do to set my monitor to 1600x900 ?
[10:27] <html> auto*
[10:28] <g2d> I want to find and tar the files.  I use "find ~ -name "*.jpg" | xargs tar -czvf test.tar.gz". but I do not want a folder in the archive. How can I do that?
[10:28] <html> what are you using newbuntu ?
[10:29] <newbuntu> html : using 12.04
[10:29] <newbuntu> html : my monitor does have 1600x900 resolution
[10:29] <html> newbuntu, google "  montior settings ubuntu 12.04  "
[10:30] <html> newbuntu,  yeah but does your computer gpu support that?
[10:30] <Janusz> Hello. Is there an easy way to run Unity 8 on 14.04?
[10:30] <newbuntu> html : how do I check the gpu ?
[10:31] <majod> what gpu doesnt support 1600x900?
[10:31] <html> the low end stuff.
[10:31] <majod> maybe like 20 years ago
[10:32] <g2d> I want to find and tar the files.  I use "find ~ -name "*.jpg" | xargs tar -czvf test.tar.gz". but I do not want a folder in the archive. How can I do that?
[10:32] <newbuntu> majod : Using GTX 550
[10:32] <rww> Janusz: installing unity8-desktop-session-mir, if I recall correctly
[10:33] <majod> newbuntu: sure, your gpu is just fine. what drivers are you using?
[10:33] <roeulogy_> easy on the old stuff lol, i have some home servers with some 800x600 max res cards in them.  but they still run 14.04 like a champ
[10:33] <majod> newbuntu: did you install "additional drivers" from ubuntu?
[10:33] <Bluewolf> I want to reinstall my machine and trying to decide weather to put Ubuntu 12.04 or 14.04 on, Obviously the older version is more stable and well set in but how is the new 14.04?
[10:33] <newbuntu> majod : yep , using Nvidia 331
[10:34] <dw1> Bluewolf: good ...
[10:34] <majod> newbuntu: im ati user so im not exactly sure, but you might want to check nvidia control panel (or whatever its called) and find the resolution there...but maybe someone who uses nvidia too can give you better advice
[10:35] <dw1> Bluewolf: try http://google.com/search?q=12.04+vs+14.04
[10:35] <newbuntu> majod : ok ... guess I have to wait
[10:35] <majod> newbuntu: but if you go to system settings and find your monitor there? you dont have options to change the resolution?
[10:36] <newbuntu> majod : it doesn't have 1600x900 , 1920x1080 is too small for my eye
[10:36] <majod> newbuntu: and your monitor is 1600x900 or 1080p?
[10:37] <bongmode> can anybody help me please? im stuck on terminal and i have no idea why editing my application menus with menulibre made my gnome desktop disappear entirely.
[10:38] <g105b> Please can someone help me get my sound devices back? After plugging in my headphones and rebooting, there are no sound devices listed (14.04)
[10:38] <roeulogy_> are your headphones usb?
[10:38] <html> newbuntu,  im not sure, google it or ask someone else.
[10:39] <g105b> roeulogy_:  no they are 3.5mm jack, plugged into the I/O port on my laptop (it takes mic or phones)
[10:40] <minu> g2d: try to add the option --xform s:^.*/:: right after "tar"
[10:40] <roeulogy_> stupid question, have you simply detached them and rebooted?
[10:40] <html> Bluewolf,  i say it has alot of bugs that has been ironed out . give it a try (14.04)
[10:40] <newbuntu> how do I check I am using VGA/LVDS or etc  ?
[10:40] <Bluewolf> dw1: Sorry I just wanted to find out from users how the new one was performing as I know from the past that it was never really a good idea to use the new release until it has had time to fix the main bugs?
[10:41] <dw1> Bluewolf: few to no problems here on 2 comps
[10:42] <html> Bluewolf,  dw1  agreed. hiberantion is a little hard to find, but it works
[10:42] <g105b> roeulogy_: yes, have rebooted several times
[10:42] <dw1> Bluewolf: i run gnome-flashback tho not the unity so its pretty much the same
[10:43] <majod> Bluewolf: if you have newer hardware, definitely 14.04...you will have much less drivers and compatibility problems.
[10:43] <newbuntu> I always getting this error     X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)  Major opcode of failed request:  153 (RANDR)
[10:43] <newbuntu>   Minor opcode of failed request:  18 (RRAddOutputMode)  Serial number of failed request:  31  Current serial number in output stream:  32
[10:44] <majod> newbuntu: you should use ubuntu forums for that i think
[10:44] <g105b> roeulogy_: had my headphones on during boot, heard the login noise "drumroll" thing, then when logged in the volume indicator was not there -- no sound devices listed in output section.
[10:45] <newbuntu> ok guess no luck to fix it , should I install 14.04 ? will it be better ?
[10:45] <chillibite>  i'm using gnus (emacs) with gmail which works fine though i am also trying to get mail from a pop server as well. for some reason gnus isn't fetching mail from the pop server. this is my .gnus file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7290682/
[10:45] <html> newbuntu,  your x is not working?
[10:45] <Bluewolf> html: dw1:I would rather user the older one until the bugs are ironed out if they are bad, Is the newer one as stable as 10.04 and are their any main compatibility problems?
[10:46] <dw1> chillibite: try #emacs
[10:46] <Bluewolf> majod: My system is a Core i3 2.93GHz x 4, 4GB RAM and a 240GT GPU
[10:46] <dw1> Bluewolf: dont know, didnt have any probs
[10:47] <html> Bluewolf,  dw1  im coming from 10.04 in a matter of speaking. i like it. devops did a great job seemingly on this distro.
[10:47] <newbuntu> html : the important part is how do I set the refresh rate ? even I tried with 1024x768 the font and etc is very blur
[10:48] <majod> Bluewolf: im saying it only because I couldnt even install 12.04 on my brand new computer, didnt detect network adapter, didnt boot properly, etc. 14.04 works fine
[10:48] <chillibite> is it possible to have information someone posted about me in this channel removed from your logs (public)
[10:49] <chillibite> someone using a nick similar to one i have registered was posing as me and saying stupid things
[10:49] <chillibite> though it wasn't my nick
[10:49] <html> Bluewolf,  well i have a 2 gen i5 and intergeted gpu.  acer aspire 5750-6489
[10:49] <newbuntu> how to force a refresh rate higher ?
[10:50] <html> Bluewolf,  you should be fine.
[10:50] <chillibite> also i think it should be mentioned in the topic of the channel that you log this room and put it on the web
[10:50] <html> newbuntu,  google it
[10:50] <cfhowlett> chillibite it IS mentioned that there this channel is logged
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !topic > chillibite
[10:51] <mucha090> hi all
[10:51] <llutz> chillibite: you get on join: "ChanServ- [#ubuntu] Welcome to #ubuntu! Please read the channel topic. This channel is logged. Use of this channel implies acceptance of terms at"
[10:51] <html> !logs
[10:51] <mucha090> could you tell me one thing
[10:51] <html> !logs | chillibite
[10:51] <cfhowlett> mucha090
[10:51] <mucha090> how can i install bumblebee on ubuntu 14.04
[10:51] <cfhowlett> !ask|mucha090
[10:51] <cfhowlett> mucha090 sudo apt-get install bumblebee
[10:51] <html> o.O
[10:52] <chillibite> cfhowlett: i didn't even read the topic :-)
[10:52] <mucha090> cfhowlett, hmm... thanks but it want to install nvidia-319
[10:53] <chillibite> cfhowlett: is it possible to have personal information about me removed from the logs?
[10:53] <cfhowlett> chillibite ask the freenode folk
[10:53] <cfhowlett> !freenode
[10:54] <html> chillibite,  not completely, as if say i was  recording all thats in this chaanel. hard to trash others personal records.
[10:55] <Bluewolf> dw1; html; majod; Thanks, I just needed to be really sure about it before I considered moving onto the new release. I have had wireless problems in Mint 14 Cinnamon.
[10:55] <mucha090> cfhowlett, can you tell me, how to install bumblebee with latest nvidia drivers?
[10:55] <html> Bluewolf,  be fore you move. consider doing a plan b
[10:55] <cfhowlett> !info bumblebee | mucha090
[10:56] <cfhowlett> mucha090 I've never used it ...
[10:56] <mucha090> cfhowlett same here :P
[10:57] <html> mucha090,  http://askubuntu.com/questions/412452/getting-hybrid-graphics-to-work-bumblebee-nvidia-prime-gt650m-on-ubuntu-13-10-an
[10:59] <Bluewolf> html: Plan B?
[11:00] <html> mucha090,  http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120955/ubuntu-14-04-nvidia-proprietary-drivers-installation
[11:00] <html> Bluewolf,  yes,
[11:01] <Mikerhinos> what light environment would you recommend between LXDE or XFCE ?
[11:01] <orven> w
[11:01] <cfhowlett> Mikerhinos your box, your choice.
[11:01] <html> Bluewolf,  ubcd http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download/ubcd529.iso.torrent    this well help you out of a jam.
[11:02] <html> Bluewolf,  http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/download.html
[11:02] <vcvc> hi
[11:02] <Mikerhinos> cfhowlett: not for my box, I have quad-core, 8Go ram etc...but I have a few friends with old computers that asked me how could they speed it up because their windows system is full of bloatware
[11:03] <cfhowlett> Mikerhinos make it easy ... install both and let them choose
[11:03] <vcvc> Guys, In 14.04 if you close the lid of laptop and then login again then rightclicking has issues in display
[11:04] <gareppa> vcvc: not for me on 64 bit thinkpad t420
[11:05] <html> Bluewolf,  go out of your way to burn some distro  on to dvds and flash drives.  incase you need to reinstall or whatever. worst thing is to be locked out of your pc with usable os.
[11:05] <vcvc> have you tried it gareppa ?
[11:05] <gareppa> just tried it
[11:05] <gareppa> right now
[11:05] <vcvc> ok.. thats starange
[11:07] <vcvc> gareppa: I tried agian
[11:07] <vcvc> its definitely a issue in my case
[11:07] <gareppa> i guess so
[11:09] <html> Mikerhinos,  linux lite is for beginners. simple gui but has the ubuntu heart still there.
[11:10] <k1l> html: linux lite is a not supported distro. we have lubuntu for lightweight purposes
[11:11] <cfhowlett> html lubuntu and xubuntu are both light options.   Lubuntu is specifically optimized for older/lower specification hardware
[11:11] <jcalonso> Hi, how can I kill a process that keep re-spawning? (and its consuming 100% of cpu )
[11:12] <k1l> jcalonso: which process is it?
[11:12] <jcalonso> rsyslogd
[11:14] <k1l> jcalonso: which ubuntu is that and what kernel are you on?
[11:17] <jcalonso> k1l im on debian 6 2.6.32-19-pve
[11:17] <jcalonso> proxmox
[11:18] <k1l> jcalonso: well, then ask in #debian. this is ubuntu support
[11:18] <paulus68_> what is a good program to use for backup for your system?
[11:19] <jcalonso> rsync paulus68
[11:20] <k1l> paulus68: deja dub is the standard backup tool in ubuntu now
[11:20] <jcalonso> thanks k1l , will do
[11:21] <paulus68_> thanks and which one is the more userfriendly?
[11:22] <k1l> try deja dub
[11:22] <html> K1l cfhowlett  whatever you say. im just teling you there are more option out there for you and your mates to use.
[11:23] <k1l> html: there are a lot of other distros out there. but that are not in the scope of the ubuntu support channel. i think that is quite fair
[11:26] <Munster> Hello
[11:26] <Sonikk> hi
[11:26] <saften> hello
[11:26] <saften> Can anyone explain spare servers?
[11:26] <saften> it's a little confusing
[11:27] <k1l> saften: can you give more details on the ubuntu support question?
[11:27] <cfhowlett> !server|saften
[11:27] <Aeo> hey
[11:28] <Aeo> can anyne help me?
[11:28] <saften> I installed Apache server and there's a configuration with the parameters MinSpareServers and MaxSpareServers, what is that?
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !details|Aeo
[11:28] <Aeo> i acccidentally installed mesa-utils:i386 and hit enter, so it removed a ton of pacages
[11:29] <Aeo> so now startx dosent work
[11:29] <Aeo> any ideas?
[11:29] <k1l> Aeo: startx should not be used on ubuntu anyway. you should start the lightdm (or another dm). you need to set .XAuthority to belong to user:user again
[11:29] <saften> k1l: I installed Apache server and there's a configuration with the parameters MinSpareServers and MaxSpareServers, what is that?
[11:30] <Aeo> yeah, even if i do that, it dosent work, loggin in through lightdm
[11:30] <Aeo> though that works fine
[11:30] <ovrflw0x> i've to do "hwclock --hctosys --localtime" everytime i boot in to correct the desktop environment time! what's the fix? i've got dual boot with windows and want windows to manage the time
[11:31] <k1l> saften: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/en/mod/prefork.html#minspareservers
[11:31] <ice9> which unity version that will be based on Qt?
[11:31] <ovrflw0x> i've to do "hwclock --hctosys --localtime" everytime i boot in to correct the desktop environment time! what's the fix? i've got dual boot with windows and want windows to manage the time
[11:31] <Bluewolf> html: okay thanks man :D
[11:31] <saften> kludge`: thank you
[11:31] <k1l> ice9: the unity8 version that will run on MIR. but that is not ready yet for desktops
[11:32] <saften> k1l: thanks you
[11:32] <Aeo> k1l, the login screen work fine, but after that i drop to a black desktop with just a mouse cursor
[11:32] <Aeo> any ideas?
[11:32] <saften> is there a channel for apache server support?
[11:33] <k1l> Aeo: reinstall the right driver for your video card
[11:33] <cfhowlett> !apache|saften
[11:33] <Aeo> darn, ok
[11:33] <k1l> Aeo: for more specific problems see .xsession-errors and syslog
[11:34] <saften> ubottu: Thanks you, I try to understand what spare servers are, why do you have to worry about them?
[11:34] <smokie> hey guys, can anyone help me out on using a public key to SSH to my ubuntu server instead of using a password?
[11:35] <saften> Is anybody good with apache servers here?
[11:35] <cfhowlett> saften this really isn't the apache channel = #apache for assistance
[11:35] <k1l> saften: did you rad the documentation i linked?
[11:35] <saften> yes=)
[11:36] <k1l> saften: for more specific questions better ask the #apache guys direktly
[11:36] <saften> alright, thanks man=)
[11:36] <tzvi> Smokie http://lani78.com/2012/07/21/generate-a-ssh-key-and-disable-password-authentication-on-ubuntu-server-12-0/
[11:37] <Reptilia> Dell Latitude E 6520 won't boot to Xubuntu, while using a Live USB to boot. I'll click on "Try Xubuntu", and it freezes. What could the problem be?
[11:37] <xzise-live> Hi, I was able to mount my encrypted home directory from a live system. But I need root rights to access the contents. What do I need to do, to access them without root privileges?
[11:38] <tzvi> xzise-live sudo chown -R username yourdirectory
[11:39] <xzise-live> Does it persist? When I boot up the non-live system, does it then needs to be changed back?
[11:39] <smokie> thanks for the link tzvi
[11:40] <tzvi> xzise-live: believe it will
[11:40] <tzvi> Np smokie
[11:40] <x71> hey guys thx Efnet for Hosting Us , We 0x71 (xc) Our Hacker Team http://0x71.org make public channel in here at #0x71.org or #0x71 , you'r very welcome to joining in
[11:40] <rahul_> RahulAN hii
[11:41] <cfhowlett> x71 no spam here!
[11:41] <trinode> Hey, anyone have issues with a2dp streaming?
[11:41] <trinode> I can connect mice and such but a2dp pairs but only connects briefly
[11:43] <trinode> using bluez-test-audio results in: dbus.exceptions.DBusException: org.bluez.Error.Failed: Connect Failed
[11:43] <daedeloth> heh, awesome. forgot to backup database
[11:44] <tzvi> daedeloth: ouch
[11:44] <tzvi> Lost something?
[11:45] <daedeloth> nah just developer test data
[11:45] <tzvi> Not too bad
[11:45] <daedeloth> but I have to set everything up again :)
[11:45] <tzvi> Lol
[11:45] <daedeloth> well, should be using the server in the basement for development really. now I remember why I bought it :p
[11:45] <tzvi> Ha
[11:46] <tzvi> I use digitalocean
[11:46] <tzvi> Quick and cheap....
[11:46] <tzvi> Vps
[11:47] <tzvi> Just moved by 3 sites to a new 14.04 server
[11:47] <trinode> tzvi: DO already have 14.04?
[11:47] <tzvi> Yup
[11:47] <trinode> nice
[11:47] <tzvi> I think they had it on release day
[11:47] <tzvi> They're really quick
[11:48] <trinode> got a little dev node on DO and a linode too, wonder if they're on it too
[11:48] <Reptilia> Dell Latitude E 6520 won't boot to Xubuntu, while using a Live USB to boot. I'll click on "Try Xubuntu", and it freezes. What could the problem be?
[11:49] <tzvi> I never tried linode, love DOs pricing
[11:50] <tzvi> Starts at 5 bucks
[11:50] <tzvi> Reptilia: video driver, among other things
[11:51] <tzvi> Reptilia: I don't remember is there a safe mode on the grub menu?
[11:51] <Reptilia> tzvi: I thought the same, but there should be some generic drivers, or something similar?
[11:51] <tzvi> If so try booting with that
[11:51] <tzvi> Try using different boot modes on grub
[11:51] <xieyi> I upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 and found apache server cant work properly. it keeps complaining the requested page was not found on this server
[11:51] <xieyi> what may be the problem? thx
[11:52] <Reptilia> tzvi: Okay, i will try, thanks
[11:52] <tzvi> xieyi: you upgraded the same machine?
[11:52] <tzvi> Did it work previously?
[11:52] <xieyi> yeah I upgraded from 13.10
[11:53] <xieyi> all the web pages can be shown in 13.10
[11:53] <Leo_Verto> so, my dual-boot system is kinda broken atm
[11:53] <Leo_Verto> windows refuses to boot unless I open the grub terminal and enter "exit"
[11:53] <xieyi> any idea? anyone met the same problem?
[11:53] <Leo_Verto> and when booting Ubuntu, I can see the splash screen and hear the sound but the screen remains dark
[11:54] <tzvi> xieyi: not me sorry
[11:54] <tzvi> Leo_Verto: fresh install?
[11:54] <Leo_Verto> xieyi, have you checked the config files?
[11:54] <Leo_Verto> tzvi, yes
[11:54] <tzvi> 14.04?
[11:54] <Leo_Verto> yep
[11:55] <DJ_Unibob> i had an issue with upgrading...I believe it was 11.04 to 11.10 upgrade that actually had 2 of the ubuntu loaders in grub and the Windows 7 Loader wasn't there.
[11:55] <tzvi> Live disk work OK?
[11:55] <Leo_Verto> in my case, it looks like the windows loader doesn't want to be chain-loaded
[11:55] <Leo_Verto> live disk works
[11:55] <DJ_Unibob> This was a few years ago. but from 13.04 to 13.10 upgrade was flawless.
[11:55] <xieyi> Leo_Verto: I adopt the old one
[11:56] <tzvi> I wonder if the grub install got screwed up
[11:56] <daedeloth> so... java... how?
[11:56] <tzvi> It's happened to me before
[11:56] <Leo_Verto> I use UEFI and a GPT SSD
[11:57] <Leo_Verto> so I installed grub to the EFI partition
[11:57] <DJ_Unibob> grub is a piece of cake compared to the LILO boot I had to deal with years ago.  :/
[11:58] <tzvi> Leo_Verto: sorry I'm not familiar enough with EFI and GPT to help
[11:58] <Leo_Verto> can you at least try to help me debug the blackscreen ubuntu?
[11:58] <tzvi> Sounds like that have something to do with it
[11:59] <Leo_Verto> that appeared after changing the grub resolution
[11:59] <Leo_Verto> and I can see the splash screen
[11:59] <sabgenton> hi tried this from wubi https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples
[11:59] <tzvi> For starters change it back
[11:59] <sabgenton> but  get some out of range error :(
[11:59] <tzvi> But I gotta run now, I'll be back later
[12:00] <Leo_Verto> thanks
[12:00] <sabgenton> any ideas
[12:00] <kimws> quit
[12:01] <kimws> #quit
[12:01] <sabgenton> I'm not shure if wubi breaks this  or  read ntfs with grub breaks this or   the trusty iso breaks it
[12:05] <OerHeks> !wubi
[12:06] <OerHeks> sabgenton, in what windows?
[12:07] <sabgenton> OerHeks: It's an old eeepc  no efi or anything
[12:09] <OerHeks> sabgenton, eee pc, i suggest to put xubuntu on it, without wubi.
[12:09] <sabgenton> yeah shure but I'm ..
[12:09] <sabgenton> did you see the link I gave?
[12:10] <sabgenton> I'm trying to  use grub from wubi to boot an iso on the ntfs partion
[12:10] <sabgenton> to then install that ubuntu iso without wubi
[12:10] <sabgenton> getting rid of wubi is exactly what I want
[12:10] <smokie> hey guys, after enabling ssh public key and disabling password login, does thsi mean i must have the key with me every time i need to login to the server, right?
[12:12] <OerHeks> sabgenton, using grub from wubi ? you still have to boot windows to get to wubi's grub, good luck with that.
[12:12] <sabgenton> I'm still not shure if you get me
[12:12] <sabgenton> did you see the link?
[12:13] <sabgenton> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot/Examples
[12:13]  * sabgenton wants to boot the ubuntu install iso from wubi then once run it will destroy wubi
[12:13] <OerHeks> sabgenton, i understand perfectly, that howto is for grub, nor for wubi/grub
[12:13] <vl4kn0> Where can I find more information about using unity scopes/lens? They are terribly unintuitive.
[12:13] <OerHeks> nor-not
[12:14] <anon44> hi guys, just want to say big thx for the community and Canonical. For the first time in my life i've installed Ubuntu on my laptop and it's just works! Out of the box. Awesome!
[12:14] <sabgenton> OerHeks: true I was wondering if anywon knew if it would work / why it wouldn't work
[12:15] <RCheesley> Hello folks, I wondered if anyone could help me with a bug? I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 with whole disk encryption, and I think this bug is re-emerging: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1003309 - I added a comment but I'm not sure what to do next
[12:15] <RCheesley> The status is expired, but that's exactly what I'm experiencing
[12:15] <|\n> RCheesley, nothing failed here
[12:16] <RCheesley> I can't boot into the kernel, I had to boot into an earlier kernel to be able to use the system
[12:17] <RCheesley> 3.11.0-14-generic is what is showing for uname -r so assume that's the one I'm running now, which works - the later ones don't, from memory it was the 3rd in the list that I tried in grub
[12:18] <RCheesley> I'm not sure how to send any meaningful logs if I can't even boot into the system with the new kernels?
[12:18] <thanigai> i installed ubuntu today is  there any threat to my system  like virus Trojans , if there how can protect my system?
[12:19] <gry> !av
[12:19] <zappo_> ciao a tutti
[12:19] <gry> thanigai, --^
[12:19] <gry> !it | zappo_
[12:19] <junka> !gr
[12:20] <zappo_>  /join #ubuntu-it
[12:20] <OerHeks> thanigai, install a firewall gui like gufw, and enable it, you are safe.
[12:21] <sabgenton> OerHeks: how does wubi grub differ from grub?
[12:21] <thanigai> OerHeks, ok thanks
[12:21] <thanigai> OerHeks, i will do
[12:21] <xub14> desktop starts in different ways (first standard as i configured, then eitherway to very dark screen, not usable or a lite version where symbols etc are not reacting on mouse) whats wrong
[12:22] <OerHeks> sabgenton, it starts from windows, not from the bootsector from scatch. so you will not reach the underlaying system.
[12:22] <leurian> Hi everyone!
[12:23] <sabgenton> OerHeks: but I can mount the ubuntu iso from wubi grub ....  whats underlaying that it can't see?
[12:23] <leuApodo> hi leurian
[12:23] <OerHeks> sabgenton, your actual windows & partitions.
[12:24] <sabgenton> again it can see (hd0,msdos1)/ubuntu.iso
[12:24] <OerHeks> sabgenton, you are on the wrong track, forget wubi to do a real install.
[12:25] <nakanut> Happy Easter everyone http://tinyurl.com/n9v6pdn
[12:25] <sabgenton> don't have usb access currntly
[12:26] <sabgenton> OerHeks: are you sure it can't see what your saying?
[12:26] <OerHeks> sabgenton, a SDcard will work too, EEEpc's can boot from sdcard.
[12:26] <sabgenton> true
[12:26] <flg> hi all
[12:27] <sabgenton> OerHeks: does the ubuntu live cd    install to  sdcards  as it does USBs?
[12:27] <flg> i try to install identd (server) on ubuntu 14.04, any help?
[12:27] <sabgenton> like the usb installer
[12:28] <xub14> can't use my desktop - who helps?
[12:28] <sabgenton> don't know if I have an sdcard around  right now
[12:28] <ziyourenxiang> 14.04’s libssl is 1.0.1f. is this patched against heartbleed? (i’d imagine so…)
[12:28] <flg> and how i can check that it's running the right way (giving back the right user) ?
[12:28] <OerHeks> sabgenton, sure, you can use the usb installer to make an bootable sdcard
[12:28] <c2tarun> I am not able to find gnome autostart folder in ubuntu 14.04, /etc/X11/xdg/autostart. Did they move it somewhere else?
[12:29] <OerHeks> ziyourenxiang, yes, ubuntu is patched on the 7th
[12:29] <c2tarun> ok got it /etc/autostart
[12:29] <OerHeks> !sslbug
[12:29] <sabgenton> OerHeks:cool
[12:29] <ziyourenxiang> thanks OerHeks
[12:30] <sabgenton> OerHeks: I would still love to know exactly what wubi grub cant see,  like why can I see  (hd0,msdos1)/ fine  if that is so?
[12:30] <sabgenton> Not saying your wrong just want to understand
[12:30] <Owen> Hi, I got a common problem with ubuntu 12.04, whenever my network cable is unplugged, it boots up with "waiting up to 60 more seconds for network configuration" and I have no network connectivity. I have a wireless USB adapter which only works when the network cable is plugged in so this error doesnt show.. any ideas?
[12:31] <flg> anyone? :)
[12:32] <cfhowlett> sabgenton wubi is a terrible idea and is not supported.  do the math
[12:32] <OerHeks> sabgenton, wubi is a virtual machine, protected space from within windows.
[12:33] <OerHeks> else you would have xubuntu running by now if this method could work.
[12:35] <flan_suse> My XF86Sleep key does not work on 14.04 to suspend the machine. If I use any other keyboard shortcut, it works. For some reason XF86Sleep registers as an event, but has no effect. It worked just fine on 12.04. Any ideas?
[12:36] <flan_suse> Eg: If I set CTRL + SHIRT + S to suspend, it works. If I set XF86Sleep to suspend, it doesn't work. If I set CTRL + SHIFT + S to open the calculator, it works. If I set XF86Sleep to open the calculator, it doesn't work.
[12:36] <llutz> OerHeks: wubi isn't a virtual machine, it is just a kernel loading the filesystem from a file on the windows-fs into a loop-device
[12:37] <OerHeks> llutz, oke, still his method of mounting an iso tru wubi/grub to do a fresh install doesn't work that way, right?
[12:38] <llutz> OerHeks: idk, i never used it
[12:39] <flg> i try to install identd (server) on ubuntu 14.04, any help?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !server | flg
[12:40] <flan_suse> Anyone know how to get XF86Sleep to work on Ubuntu 14.04?
[12:40] <flg> i need it for my client desktop...
[12:40] <flg> to connect to irc bouncer
[12:40] <BrianH> Ok, I am getting a weird problem.  When my system idles, I come back to a black screen with a blinking terminal cursor.  If I switch to a different tty, and then back to tty7, I'm given the lightdm lockscreen to get back into my system.
[12:41] <dw1> flg: for freenode?
[12:41] <cfhowlett> flg ask the server channel
[12:41] <sabgenton> OerHeks: you are obviously totaly guessing
[12:41] <flg> oki thx
[12:41] <flg> (server channel?)
[12:41] <sabgenton> I don't see why it wouldn't work but  I'll just go by some flash media tommorw
[12:41] <dupingping> Hi
[12:41] <flg> ah isee , thanks
[12:41] <dupingping> guys.
[12:41] <BrianH> flg: #ubuntu-server
[12:41] <codydh> Hello! Is the appropriate way to install docker on 14.04 "apt-get install docker.io" ?
[12:42] <dupingping> oh,
[12:42] <dupingping> grdesktop project is dead?
[12:42] <BrianH> codydh: lxdocker is the package
[12:43] <denysonique> # apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[12:43] <denysonique> throws
[12:43] <denysonique> dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/compizconfig-settings-manager_1%3a0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1_all.deb (--unpack):
[12:43] <denysonique>  trying to overwrite '/usr/share/ccsm', which is also in package libunity-core-6.0-9 7.2.0+14.04.20140416-0ubuntu1
[12:43] <kostkon> codydh, according to this post yes http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2014/04/docker-in-ubuntu-ubuntu-in-docker.html
[12:43] <codydh> BrianH: ah-ha. Does this let me call the app using 'docker,' or do I have to do 'docker.io' for the commands?
[12:43] <codydh> kostkon: Thanks, hadn't found that
[12:44] <BrianH> codydh: whoops, it's lxc-docker
[12:44] <sabgenton> cfhowlett: it's more about chain loading grub from windows  if you don't have any disks you can put in the computer     I'm not using the linux wubi image  that part is old hat
[12:45] <BrianH> codydh: I guess it's changed since 14.04?  I've been using docker for a while, and always installed it through lxc-docker.
[12:45] <denysonique> Has anyone successfully installed CCSM on 14.04?
[12:45] <BrianH> denysonique: yes
[12:46] <codydh> BrianH: Aah ok!
[12:47] <ocooel> Does this mean I must regress my kernel version to be able to install the proprietary driver..? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/amdcatalyst13-12linreleasenotes.aspx
[12:47] <codydh> BrianH: Might be because it's built in now, maybe lxc-docker were third party?
[12:47] <codydh> So confusing that there's already a package called docker though
[12:47] <BrianH> codydh: perhaps from the PPA
[12:48] <denysonique> BrianH: ok, nvm, I fixed the problem by reinstalling libunity-core
[12:48] <ocooel> Just read the latest driver only supports up to raring
[12:48] <ocooel> AMD need to pick up their game
[12:49] <BrianH> codydh: This is how it was done in Saucy: http://docs.docker.io/installation/ubuntulinux/#ubuntu-raring-saucy
[12:49] <hillary> my ubuntu 12.04 cannot detect my wintouch tablet. how can i force it to detect
[12:50] <BrianH> hillary: define "detect"
[12:50] <codydh> BrianH: Ah, I see.
[12:50] <hillary> detect mean to sence that a device is connected
[12:50] <codydh> Now, what's the best way to 'alias' a command (forgetting the correct word), so that 'docker' calls 'docker.io' ?
[12:51] <BrianH> hillary: nothing appears in lspci or dmesg?
[12:51] <hillary> let me try that then
[12:52] <BrianH> codydh: symlink in your /usr/bin
[12:52] <hillary> nothing
[12:52] <codydh> BrianH: Ah, right, that makes sense. Thanks much for your help!
[12:52] <hillary> still i cannot see it
[12:53] <BrianH> codydh: no prob
[12:54] <wegefg> need some help with an nfs mount in ubuntu 14.04.
[12:55] <wegefg> so I'm ttrying to get ubuntu 14.04 to mount and nfs share from a raspberry pi
[12:55] <wegefg> its worked OK in 13.10 with the same settings but in 14.04 the mount hangs
[12:55] <wegefg> i have it set to mount on boot through fstab
[12:57] <wegefg> doing sudo mount *.*.*.*:/ / will mount the share but when I click the shortcut in the sidebar in nautilus it hangs and doesn;t mount
[12:57] <wegefg> can anybody help with this??
[12:57] <wegefg> please
[12:58] <BrianH> wegefg: hmm, mine are all working.  What does your mount command look like in fstab?
[12:58] <BrianH> wegefg: is nfs-common installed?
[12:58] <wegefg> *.*.*.*:/   		/media/share   	nfs    noauto,rw,user  0  0
[12:58] <wegefg> yes
[12:59] <ocooel> How do you read this..? Up to as in not past this point of up to as in including kernel 3.13..? http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/Latest-LINUX-Beta-Driver.aspx
[12:59] <amtkhdkr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee     hi can anyone please help me solve this?
[13:00] <wegefg> BrianH: and the /etc/exports on the server side looks like this
[13:00] <wegefg> BrianH:
[13:00] <wegefg> BrianH: /       		  *.*.*.*(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[13:01] <wegefg> BrianH: the server setting haven't change since using it in 13.10
[13:02] <BrianH> wegefg: Hmmm, I'm really not skilled with nfs shares.  Mine look a little different, but they're for VMs that access seperate HDD storage on my host system.
[13:04] <BrianH> wegefg: For reference, here's mine: UUID=XXXX-XXXX /media/[username]/dir vfat defaults,user,exec,uid=user,gid=nogroup,umask=000 0 0
[13:06] <BrianH> Anyone having a problem with their system dropping to a fullscreen terminal on sleep with a blinking terminal cursor?
[13:07] <BrianH> I can get back into it by switching ttys and back to tty7, which then shows me my lightdm lock screen.
[13:08] <wegefg> BrianH: whats weird is that is was working with 13.10 then I did a clean install of 14.04 add the same line to fstab and now it doesn't work
[13:08] <BrianH> wegefg: is fstab mounting it?
[13:09] <BrianH> wegefg: or are you manually mounting it after boot because fstab failed?
[13:10] <chris__> irc://irc.abjects.net/1warez
[13:10] <wegefg> BrianH: there is a shortcut in nautilus under network that I didn't create the has the mounts listed. On boot up those mount are there and I click them and they mount then to unount i click the eject symbol beside them
[13:11] <BrianH> wegefg: try running sudo mount -a
[13:11] <wegefg> BrianH: but now i have to do it through command line 'sudo mount 0.0.0.0:/ /' and it mounts
[13:12] <isabelle> hello everyone, my laptop keyboard an touchpad  don't work since an update one week ago (approximately) in ubuntu 13.10. Now I'm on 14.04 but ubuntu still doesn't work, I have to use usb keyboard
[13:12] <isabelle> could anyone help me please
[13:13] <t4ng0> olla guys :)
[13:14] <wegefg> BrianH: it mount the shares. But when I unmount them through nautilus and try and mount the again through nautilus it hang and doesn't mount
[13:16] <BrianH> isabelle: try running: dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg-input-all
[13:16] <shunya_chakra> in ubuntu what software i can use to download youtube videos
[13:17] <BrianH> wegefg: Hmmm, and if you sudo mount -a from the terminal afterwards?
[13:17] <wegefg> BrianH: it mounts it again straight away
[13:17] <isabelle> BrianH, ii  xserver-xorg-input-all                                1:7.7+1ubuntu8                        amd64        X.Org X server -- input driver metapackage
[13:17] <wegefg> BrianH: but same thing happen when i remount using nautilus
[13:17] <Ca11um> Can I use grep or a similar command to output every line of a log that does not begin with a certain IP address?
[13:18] <Wobbo> Oh dear... I have upgraded from 13.10 < 14.04. Reboot and I get "error:. Symbol" grub_term_highlight_color 'not fount Entering rescue mode ... And then?
[13:18] <wegefg> BrianH: I guess I'm gonna have to maually mount the shares everytime
[13:19] <BrianH> wegefg: I'm not sure.  Someone with more experience with nfs may be able to shed some more light on it.  Could be a problem with nautilus as well.
[13:21] <BrianH> Ca11um: grep -L should work.
[13:21] <Ca11um> Thanks
[13:22] <BrianH> Wobbo: using multiple drives?
[13:22] <Wobbo> Yes
[13:23] <BrianH> Wobbo: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449680/upgrading-from-13-10-to-14-04-broke-grub
[13:23] <roy1977>  irc.darksin.net
[13:24] <Leo_Ubuntu> so, I am able to boot Ubuntu via nomodeset
[13:24] <Leo_Ubuntu> how do I compile mono on 14.04?
[13:25] <Wobbo> Ànd than?
[13:26] <wegefg> BrianH: ok I'll check back later see if somebody can give me some help. Thanks anyway dude.
[13:26] <alfonsojon> Hello
[13:27] <alfonsojon> I'm using the Samsung Chromebook  Series 3 and I was wondering if there's better support for it in 14.04
[13:27] <bravocat> hello
[13:28] <bravocat> I have .enc file I want to read. How?
[13:29] <cknox> bravocat: http://bit.ly/Pjtoj7
[13:31] <bravocat> cknox: I searched already, some sharewares/freewares for windows was all I found
[13:31] <hillary> i installed wine in my ubuntu 12.04 but i cannot start any .exe applications
[13:31] <bravocat> I don't want to use wine for that, it seems simple enough
[13:32] <bravocat> (hillary, it's not to you)
[13:32] <dw1> hillary: what about running: wine program.exe
[13:33] <hillary> dw1 how do i run it? i install via ubuntu software center
[13:33] <cknox> bravocat: where is the file from?
[13:33] <cknox> I sent the link because I searched just to try and figure out what the file might be
[13:33] <cknox> and I'm still lost as to what it is
[13:34] <dw1> hillary: that would be a terminal command, or you may be able to do right click -> Open With and choose Wine
[13:34] <bravocat> it's supposed to hold my email archive, freshly downloaded from the provider
[13:34] <cknox> bravocat: have you tried opening it with vim (or emacs, or gedit, or another text editor)
[13:35] <hillary> when i right click and say open with wine windows program loader nothing happens
[13:35] <cknox> I don't think the text editor will open it "properly" but some file types give hints as to what their format is (for instance a PDF will say PDF near the start)
[13:36] <cknox> and of course searching for .enc file ubuntu just gives hits on how to encrypt files
[13:36] <dw1> hillary: i would try from the terminal then and see if theres a good error message.....  wine <program>
[13:37] <bravocat> vim, tried this...first there's a readable header, archive from this provider of this user, then rubbish, encoded, something like base64?
[13:38] <cknox> yeah, it looks like .enc is usually for encoded content...
[13:38] <cknox> so the trick is how to decode it then
[13:38] <cknox> and there was nothing that said PDF in the header
[13:38] <bravocat> pdf? not pdf
[13:39] <bravocat> just some text, then text that seems encoded (like rubbish)
[13:39] <cknox> may I ask what provider?
[13:39] <bravocat> safe-mail.net
[13:39] <cknox> well
[13:40] <bravocat> there is "uuencode", I want to try "uudecode", give me a sec
[13:41] <bravocat> err, missing "begin"
[13:44] <random-ubuntu-us> Hello, I have a problem when setting up grub for Ubuntu (with a WIndows 8 dual-boot) on a Raid0 disk. First the installer (ubiquity, I think) crashed when installing grub and no I am trying to fix it myself. The problem is, for some reason 'grub-install
[13:45] <random-ubuntu-us> always fails telling me thatit can't find a device for '/dev' (even though I mounted the correct EFI partition)
[13:47] <cknox> well safe-mail's search is pretty useless
[13:48] <mikealfa92> hello everyone
[13:48] <isabelle> BrianH, sorry to interrupt you, but do you see a solution to my keyboard issue?, I have do the dpkg -l and it gives me : 1:7.7+1ubuntu8  xserver-xorg-input-all
[13:49] <cknox> isabelle: may I ask what the keyboard problem is?
[13:49] <shunya_chakra> Hi guys can anyone suggest me what youtube download manager for ubuntu works.. good
[13:50] <cknox> bravocat: have you tried contacting them: http://www.safe-mail.net/support/eng/help/contact/index.html
[13:51] <ibrokeit> Upgrading to 14.04 disabled my on-board integrated ethernet which used to be eth0.   Well, really, it just renamed it eth3 and I didn't figure that out until later.  With eth0 not working I plugged in a PCIe card that became eth1.  Both eth1 and eth3 now work (but do not connect automatically) and eth0 does not exist.  How can I get rid of the "waiting for network configuration" during boot?
[13:51] <isabelle> cknox, yes, in fact since an update my laptop keyboard and touchpad don't work, i have to use usb keyboard and mouse
[13:51] <cknox> shunya_chakra: you mean for downloading youtube videos?
[13:51] <shunya_chakra> cknox to download youtube video in linux
[13:51] <shunya_chakra> yup
[13:52] <bravocat> cknox: it will take a while to get an answer, want to avoid that
[13:52] <bravocat> but if nothing helps, will write
[13:52] <cknox> I haven't tried it in linux, but what I use on Windows (all my desktops are linux) is a tool called youtube-dl that's up on github. It's written in Python and should work for ubuntu
[13:52] <mikealfa92> hey everyone i installed nvidia graphics driver on my laptop and now i cant login
[13:53] <majo> hi. i have a problem with fglrx drivers. when i install them, the screen is tearing when moving windows around, etc. found "tear-free" in CCC, enabled. now i dont have tearing, but theres huge delay when moving windows, scrolling, etc. no problem with open source drivers. what can i do?
[13:53] <cknox> shunya_chakra: it's a shell program so you will need a terminal window open to use it
[13:53] <majo> on 14.04
[13:53] <isabelle> cknox, previously, sometimes I have some trouble with the keyboard: it stop working after restart (I have to shutdown, and after start, restart make keyboard unusable) this was not very problematic, but last week, I have performed update on ubuntu 13.10 and keyboard and mouse stop working all the time. Now I'm on ubuntu 14.04 but the problem persists
[13:53] <cknox> isabelle: that seems really odd. I know when I was trying to install my server I couldn't use USB at all and had to hunt down a PS/2 keyboard
[13:54] <shunya_chakra> thanks cknox... I'll try to use it
[13:54] <cknox> isabelle: are you able to use the keyboard and mouse outside of ubuntu?
[13:55] <isabelle> cknox, humm I'm not sure, ubuntu is the only os on my laptop
[13:55] <cknox> isabelle: do you have any live CDs, or even install media for windows or some other OS that you could boot to and verify that your laptop keyboard/mouse works
[13:55] <cknox> or even just getting into the bios...
[13:55] <isabelle> cknox, maybe I sould try it under live cd, but I think the hardware is ok
[13:55] <cknox> what brand of laptop?
[13:56] <cknox> isabelle: in all likelyhood the hardware is fine, but just to rule it out...
[13:56] <isabelle> cknox, ok, I'm restarting the pc, see you in 5 minutes
[13:56] <roel> hi. how can I add stuff like volume control info, internet connection icon, ... in menu panel ?
[13:59] <lblume> Hello all
[14:01] <lblume> Probably a silly question, but I just don't get it: in Ubuntu 13.10, using the file browser, I connect to a remote server using ssh://server
[14:01] <lblume> That works well, however, it shows only my home directory there, and I just can't find a way to go up, to /. How to do that?
[14:04] <roel> is it risky to reinstall unity-control-center or is it too important?
[14:05] <roel> I'll restart
[14:06] <isabelle> cknox, ok the keyboard doesn't work on bios or live cd :-s
[14:07] <isabelle> cknox, I presume that  somehardware connection is broken
[14:07] <gumble> under Linux Mint XFCE Edition I could right click on the speaker symbol and in the appearing dialog then put the volume to about 150%. I can't now under xubuntu, is there a way to do this?
[14:08] <isabelle> cknox, thanks for your help
[14:08] <cknox> isabelle: what brand of laptop?
[14:08] <trinode> can anyone help with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2218315 I think I'm really close to diagnosing it but I'm stumped?
[14:08] <cknox> also, how comfortable are you with opening things up?
[14:08] <isabelle> cknox, it is a packard bell but I don't know the exact model
[14:09] <cknox> packard bell?
[14:09] <cknox> I thought they disappeared over a decade ago...
[14:09] <isabelle> cknox, lol I'm a hipster
[14:09] <Leo_Ubuntu> isabelle: do you have legacy usb enabled in bios?
[14:10] <roel> i drop my previous questions: i have to look up how i can add stuff to the 'Notification Area'
[14:10] <isabelle> Leo_Ubuntu, I'm not sure, I only know that internal keyboard doesn't work but usb keyboard does (even in BIOS)
[14:11] <isabelle> Leo_Ubuntu, what legacy usb is about?
[14:11] <cknox> When it left the North American computer industry in 2000, it quickly became a leader in the European and African markets.
[14:11] <cknox> that explains things
[14:12] <Leo_Ubuntu> isabelle: I had a problem where I wasn't able to use my keyboard at all in bios/grub after installing Ubuntu
[14:12] <Leo_Ubuntu> solved that by resetting my bios
[14:12] <isabelle> Leo_Ubuntu, ok I'm tryng it right now
[14:12] <isabelle> see you in 5 minutes
[14:13] <tommaso> problemi con flash
[14:13] <tommaso> chi mi puo aiutare?
[14:15] <kostkon> !it | tommaso
[14:15] <Guest14121> Hello, I've got a strange problem: I updated my server to 14.04 and now kernel 3.13 want to pxe boot while kernel 3.5 is not trying this. Because of this 3.13 does not boot and gets a kernel panic (syncing: Attempted to kill init! exitcode=0x00000200) after trying to find a pxe server (of which I don't have one). Anybody got any advice?
[14:16] <motuleno> MOHAMMED GAVE BLOWJOBS TO HIS GRANDSON:
[14:16] <motuleno> SURA 52:24
[14:16] <motuleno> “And there shall wait on them [the Muslim men] young boys of their own, as fair as virgin pearls.”
[14:16] <motuleno> Hadith Number 16245, Volume Title: “The Sayings of the Syrians,” Chapter
[14:16] <motuleno> Title: “Hadith of Mu’awiya Ibn Abu Sufyan”: “I saw the prophet – pbuh –
[14:16] <motuleno> sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali, may the
[14:16] <unopaste> motuleno you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:17] <toor_> servus!
[14:17] <OerHeks> !ot | motuleno
[14:18] <Guest14121> nobody?
[14:18] <MonkeyDust> motuleno  are you a bot?
[14:20] <cknox> Guest14121: is grub trying to PXE boot?
[14:20] <roel> does someone know how to show the volume indicator in the menu (xfce)
[14:20] <Guest14121> no after selecting ubuntu with kernel 3.13 it starts the PXE boot
[14:20] <cknox> I've only ever seen PXE boot happen when initiated from the POST before any bootloaders
[14:20] <Guest14121> yeah me too
[14:21] <cknox> and you're on 14.04?
[14:21] <Guest14121> cknox: but it is doing the same as a pxe boot
[14:21] <Guest14121> yes
[14:21] <roel> nevermind: i think i have to restart
[14:22] <amigamagic> hi, someone knows how to change the text color for the icons on the desktop? I'm on an Ubuntu 12.04 machine with gnome fallback session.
[14:22] <cknox> Guest14121: have you tried the recovery boot option?
[14:22] <Guest14121> cknox: (the errors from pxe are: "IP-Config: eth0 hardware address 00:0c:29:79:86:c1 mtu 1500 DHCP" and "IP-Config: no response after 60 secs - giving up")
[14:22] <Guest14121> cknox: yes, same problem
[14:27] <roel> I can't set up my notification area right: http://askubuntu.com/questions/186205/how-to-reset-notification-area-settings
[14:27] <roel> I need help
[14:28] <MonkeyDust_> my 14.04 shuts down at random moments, even when i'm not actively using it
[14:29] <roel> @mokneydust: did ye check suspend settings?
[14:30] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: do you have two gnome-screensaver running
[14:30] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: i had that problem once
[14:30] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: not suspending but locking
[14:31] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: in my case it was because i was using an outdated powersaving app Jupiter
[14:31] <t4ng0> hello guys, just want to ask -| how to improve my centos desktop against hackers and virus? |
[14:31] <t4ng0> i'm sure this us #centos lol not devel
[14:31] <Rory> this is Ubuntu support
[14:31] <MonkeyDust_> dw1  i don't use any screensaver and don't know what jupiter is
[14:32] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: basically the two gnome-screensavers cause one to not detect activity so the lock screen would comeo n every 10 mins
[14:32] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: k
[14:33] <Spidernet> t4ng0: just make sure unnecessary ports are disabled...  u can use "nmap localhost" to determine all ports and services running and disable the unused ones
[14:33] <roel> Help: the notification area remains partially broke !!
[14:34] <roel> nobody can help me?
[14:35] <dw1> MonkeyDust_: might be worth keeping track of the times to see if its at a re gular interval
[14:35] <Guest14121> anybody else who got an idea?
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <Ch3rn0by1> Saudações
[14:36] <unopaste> Ch3rn0by1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[14:37] <snyp> HEY. Software update is NOT saying 'However Ubuntu 14.04 is available'
[14:37] <snyp> i have any newer version checked
[14:37] <Spidernet> snyp: probably u disabled new release notification.. just download it
[14:37] <dw1> snyp: are you on 12.04
[14:37] <snyp> no. 13.10
[14:38] <dw1> strange then
[14:38] <snyp> yeah
[14:39] <dw1> what about do-release-upgrade from terminal
[14:39] <cknox> the way I got to 14.04 was with do-release-upgrade -d...
[14:39] <dw1> -d not needed now
[14:39] <cknox> but -d takes you to development...
[14:39] <dw1> except for 12.04
[14:39] <dw1> as i understand
[14:39] <cknox> ah, I was on 12.04...
[14:40] <cknox> it was a 6 hour process to get from 9.10 to 14.04
[14:40] <majod> can someone help me configure fglrx drivers? i cant get rid of tearing...on 14.04
[14:40] <dw1> 12.04 wont need -d when 14.04.1 is available
[14:40] <cknox> and all because 13.10 wouldn't actually install so I had to use the recovery option to install a new bootloader
[14:41] <dw1> fun
[14:41] <roel> oh, i know why that notifing stuff sucks: http://design.canonical.com/2010/04/notification-area/
[14:42] <kostkon> roel, what's your problem
[14:43] <roel> well, the notification area doesn't show things like volume status, lan connection status,...
[14:43] <snyp> do-release-upgrade seems to be working. brb
[14:43] <snyp> thanks
[14:46] <kostkon> roel, could you describe your problem in more detail, also a screenshot would be helpful
[14:46] <darklight_> Keyboard shortcuts in 14.04 get reset after updating any package, I think one of the triggers does it,
[14:47] <roel> no, i even get an error to take a screenshot
[14:48] <FrankBullitt> I installed inetsim and I want it to have it start on boot. What is the easiest way to accomplish this in a test environment?
[14:48] <roel> screenshot works now
[14:49] <soee> guys i want to do upgrade of remote server, is it safe to continue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292033/ ?
[14:50] <Spidernet> FrankBullitt: update-rc.d -f inetsim enable
[14:51] <OerHeks> soee, it is not recommended, but you can, see the message of the 2nd ssh service in case you run into trouble
[14:51] <FrankBullitt> Spidernet: thanks
[14:51] <soee> OerHeks: yes i see it, i think i have no other choice as it is remove host
[14:51] <soee> *remote
[14:52] <dusf123_> Ubuntu 14.04 installer - 'Device for boot loader installation', do i leave it as /dev/sda or do i need to select something like the partitions windows 8.1 created for efi?
[14:52] <module000> soee: not a bad idea to get your remote KVM or other console access standing by also, in case of unintended bad-stuff
[14:53] <dusf123_> s/partitions/partitions
[14:53] <module000> dusf123_: leave it as /dev/sda
[14:53] <dusf123_> module, thank you, do i need to anything else other than choose my root and home partitions? i have made sure i booted ubuntu live in uefi mode
[14:53] <dusf123_> module000:
[14:53] <Caveat> oi
[14:54] <module000> dusf123_: nope, that's all you need. GRUB will be installed to your MBR at /dev/sda, and it will notice and give you the option to boot your windows partition as well as ubuntu
[14:55] <majod> can anyone help me to configure fglrx drivers? i experience some image tearing, but only on top half on screen
[14:55] <dusf123_> thanks, i hope so, it took awhile to get this far, the ubuntu uefi documentation never mentioned creating a uefi boot only usb stick
[14:55] <dusf123_> which was the only way i could make my laptop boot it properly
[14:55] <roel> I have a screenshot of my prolbem: http://roelaro21.twentyone.axc.nl/press/notif-area.png
[14:56] <module000> roel: you might want to head over to xubuntu support, most of the help in this channel will be unity related, which is not using the type of notification area you are seeing in xfce.
[14:57] <module000> roel: ( #xubuntu )
[14:58] <dusf123_> is there anyway to use LVM without erasing the whole disk? the 14.04 gives a LVM option, but not when you select 'something else' to install with erasing the whole disk?
[14:58] <dusf123_> also, can i encrypt my homev dir later, same applies to that option
[14:59] <roel> ok. bye
[14:59] <someHuman> Hello!
[14:59] <module000> dusf123_: encrypting your homedir later will be a pain, but you can use LVM without erasing the whole disk if you do manual partitioning. you'll need to have a generic /boot partition, and then a single LVM physical volume to house the rest of your partitions
[14:59] <someHuman> I'd like to share this, especially with Ubuntu newbies! ;) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422475
[15:00] <dusf123_> module000: i am using manual partitioning but i have windows 8.1 installed in gpt uefi - can i still use LVM?
[15:02] <urielvigilant> Something is very wrong with this 14.04 and bcm 4311, because with 13.10 it use to work only installing the  linux-firmware-nonfree and edit the blacklist.conf and put a # before this sentence.  But with this Lubuntu 14.04 i tryed all of this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292079/ and nothing put it my bcm 43 11 On never . Thanks GOD iam experiment in a usb live persitent usb 4 Gb, other wise  i...
[15:02] <urielvigilant> ...dont know how will be my life . . .
[15:02] <rAg3> how do i change the ipaddress that is assigned to my wireless card when creating a hotspot
[15:03] <Spidernet> rAg3: check your dhcp configuration, it is found in /etc/dhcp/ and the file is dhcpd.conf... tweak it and use the range of ip pool u want
[15:03] <dusf123_> module000: also, how do i encrypt when selecting 'something else' for manual partitioning
[15:03] <rAg3> Spidernet, thats will try
[15:04] <rAg3> Spidernet, thanks i mean
[15:05] <n15h12awa> hi
[15:05] <bad63r> Does some1 playing Heroes of Newerth on Ubuntu? It's very important bcs i cant make it works without lags in game.
[15:06] <bad63r> I need just to tell me is it working or not
[15:06] <thaumiel> hiya peeps! This is my third laptop now with Xubuntu :D
[15:06] <thaumiel> just gotta figure out why chromium doesn't install from software center grrrrr
[15:07] <MonkeyDust> that was another 14.04 crash
[15:07] <nimbo> thaumiel, my problem is that i cant set chrome as defalut web browser
[15:08] <thaumiel> nimbo, ooh
[15:08] <nimbo> thaumiel, when it start it ask me if i wana set it as default
[15:08] <maksimkaaa> Hi, anybody here tried to install php5.5 zmq extension on ubuntu 14 ?
[15:08] <someHuman> What does gksu lshw-gtk do?
[15:08] <rAg3> Spidernet, there is no dhcpd.conf  ... there is only dhclient.conf :/
[15:08] <someHuman> I just saw it from here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1422475
[15:08] <nimbo> but i already set it on the "web browser" as default app
[15:09] <nimbo> Any ideas?
[15:09] <maksimkaaa> I am unable to install from source and can not find any PPA with the package.
[15:09] <n15h12awa> Can any1 help me with sound problem on 14.04 . I have Creative Xtreme Audio (PCI C0160). Have no sound on right channel on both installed version and on liveCD version, but it works perfectly on non gnu os :( and it worked perfectly on 12.04
[15:09] <thaumiel> i got some "depends" problems, now googling how to fix it. need to install something uh ah
[15:10] <rAg3> thaumiel, if you are using apt-get try this , sudo apt-get install -f
[15:10] <thaumiel> sudo apt get time!
[15:10] <rAg3> this should fix the dependencies
[15:10] <thaumiel> rAg3 sounds about right and good!
[15:11] <rAg3> Spidernet, there is no dhcpd.conf  ... there is only dhclient.conf :/
[15:11] <rAg3> how do i change the ipaddress that is assigned to my wireless card when creating a hotspot , i am not running a dhcp server so there is no dhcpd.conf file, but under /etc/dhcp i can find is dhclient.conf
[15:12] <Spidernet> rAg3: ok i will be sending u a file then u downlaod and put it there
[15:13] <minimec> nimbo: set default browser for the whole system... 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser'
[15:14] <someHuman> I wanna do this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsDualBoot
[15:14] <someHuman> I can boot into Ubuntu 14.04 but what I do is press F9 (boot options).
[15:15] <rAg3> Spidernet, ok, do i install dhcp server as well ?
[15:15] <someHuman> What I want is a menu to let me choose when my PC boots.
[15:15] <Spidernet> rAg3: yes cos u will giving out the dhcp you wnat so pls install dhcp-server
[15:15] <someHuman> Maybe I am talking about grub2, being my bootloader so that I have Windows and Ubuntu booting by default without the need of user interaction in boot time?
[15:16] <Spidernet> LOAD -e /root/Desktop/dhcpd.conf
[15:16] <rAg3> Spidernet, ok i will do that , but then how does the current configuration work without the server being installed?
[15:19] <Spidernet> rAg3: we will use dhcpd -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf <hotspot interface> to set the ip address for the hotspot: this is my dhcp.conf You can save it into a text editor and place it where i told u. change it where necessary. the quotes are not part " ddns-update-style none; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; subnet 192.168.57.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { range 192.168.57.10 192.168.57.20; option routers 192.168.57.1;}
[15:20] <anew> doees ps aux show all currently running processes?
[15:22] <Istalantar> hi everyone... I am trying to install TeamSpeak3. I have downloaded filename.run from the TS3 homepage and I somehow managed to uncompress it, but uncompress isn't installed, is it? What would i have to do now?
[15:23] <preetam> Hi..I am upgrading to ubuntu 14.04 from 13.04 and suddenly upgrade hangs while installing.. what to do..I can't restart as it will unstable the system..
[15:23] <preetam> please advice immediately
[15:23] <someHuman> Istalantar: Did you get the one for Ubuntu?
[15:23] <minimec> someHuman: If grub sees multiple OS, it will show the boot menu per default. You can on the other hand configure a default OS to boot in the file /etc/default/grub. Default setting is 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' (the first available, normally Ubuntu). Just change '0' to you needs. Count like 'fith entry' -> '4'
[15:23] <Spidernet> Istalantar: open the terminal and change director to where the file name is: make the file executable by using the command: chmod u+x filename.run : now run the file as ./filename.run (note the ./)
[15:23] <someHuman> Ubuntu is Debian-based.
[15:23] <tylerburtonca> Has anyone gotten autologin to work? I even tried the instructions on the Arch wiki (I'm trying everything at this point) and I still can't get it to autologin my account
[15:24] <someHuman> minimec: What do you mean by configure a default OS?
[15:25] <preetam> please help me I am stuck in between upgrading to 14.04..Can't restart the system..
[15:25] <Istalantar> i choose Linux download, client amd64
[15:25] <preetam> stuck in between the upgrade
[15:25] <minimec> someHuman: If you have a dualboot and you want to boot Windows7 as default os, you would have to change '0' to something else, according to the menu you get when you start the computer.
[15:26] <someHuman> Istalantar: If a download for Ubuntu isn't available (which is unusual), get files with the extension .deb.
[15:26] <someHuman> .deb == Debian files
[15:26] <someHuman> minimec: By default my PC boots into Windows
[15:26] <tylerburtonca> Has anyone gotten autologin to work on 14.04?
[15:27] <someHuman> What I want is my PC will show me a menu with my OSes showing for me tho choose by default.
[15:27] <Munster> Istalantar, http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/
[15:28] <someHuman> Istalantar: What Munster said.
[15:28] <OerHeks> tylerburtonca, i do, but not with encrypted home, obiously
[15:28] <Istalantar> there is no .deb i can only choose between: windows, mac os x, linux, ios, android, freebsd
[15:28] <OerHeks> *obviously
[15:28] <minimec> someHuman: That's exactly what grub does...
[15:28] <Barridus> is it possible to unencrypt the home folder, i'd like to for a step in some troubleshooting
[15:28] <someHuman> minimec: Mine doesn't.
[15:28] <someHuman> I can only boot into Ubuntu via F9 (change boot options).
[15:28] <tylerburtonca> OerHeks, is it at all possible with encrypted home? or to unencrypt home?
[15:29] <Munster> Istalantar, are you reading theposts direct to you?
[15:29] <Istalantar> yes i do
[15:29] <Munster> directed
[15:29] <someHuman> Barridus: Ah, you encrypted in during installation?
[15:29] <OerHeks> tylerburtonca, it is disabled with encrypted home, else what is the use of encrypted home?
[15:29] <Barridus> just the home folder
[15:29] <Barridus> not the entire installation
[15:29] <someHuman> Barridus: I don't have an experience what that as I am not that paranoid ;)
[15:30] <someHuman> Barridus: Do you use Ubuntu for work or personal? Both?
[15:30] <Barridus> it was the default option, someHuman, so i said "ok fine"
[15:30] <Barridus> personal, someHuman
[15:30] <someHuman> Barridus: No it isn't lol, what Ubuntu do you have?
[15:30] <someHuman> Isn't that showing in the last step?
[15:30] <Barridus> it started as server 14.04, someHuman
[15:30] <g105b> I'm having serious issues. Just purged pulseaudio because I couldn't get any output devices listed in my volume control... now this is what system settings looks like: http://i.imgur.com/301uvR9.png
[15:30] <minimec> someHuman: Do you have grub installed? Press and hold the left <shift> button after your computer boot screen. I fgrub is installed, you get a menu... Otherwise I guess grub is not running. Do you have multiple harddrives? Could it be that you installed grub on the 'slave' HD and not the 'master'?
[15:30] <Barridus> someHuman: it might have been the default in server
[15:30] <leurian> hi all!
[15:31] <n15h12awa> Can any1 help me with sound problem on 14.04 . I have Creative Xtreme Audio (PCI CA0160). Have no sound on right channel on both installed version and on liveCD version, but it works perfectly on non gnu os :( and it worked perfectly on 12.04
[15:31] <someHuman> Barridus: Yeah of course, it's server. It's suppose to be more secure.
[15:31] <tylerburtonca> OerHeks, fair enough. is it possible to force it to be enabled anyway? I don't really feel like re-installing...
[15:31] <Barridus> someHuman: but a service wouldn't start on boot, it wasn't until i threw ubuntu-desktop on it that i saw the error accessing /home/myusername/a config file
[15:31] <Istalantar> Munster, what to do with the link, i have 14.04 installed
[15:32] <Munster> Istalantar, ok . guess i misunderstood
[15:33] <OerHeks> tylerburtonca, not that i know of, maybe someone else has a solution?
[15:33] <someHuman> Barridus: Try asking Munster .
[15:34] <Barridus> someHuman: oops looks like i have to run, i'll try later
[15:34] <someHuman> Barridus: RUN!!!!
[15:34] <Barridus> someHuman: thanks for putting a thought on it
[15:34] <someHuman> Barridus: HAHAHA! JK, take care! ;)
[15:34] <someHuman> Barridus: No problem ;)
[15:34] <Istalantar> as i said i somehow managed to unpack the  run-file i downloaded from teamspeak, and i can run the runscript file with: sh ts3client_runscript.sh ... is that all i need to do? so i always need to start TS3 with terminal?
[15:36] <Munster> someHuman, I assume that was sarcasm
[15:36] <rAg3nix> Spidernet, how do i configure what ip address my hotspot uses ?
[15:36] <rAg3nix> Spidernet, how do i configure what ip address my hotspot uses ?
[15:40] <semaj81> Any way to prevent screen tearing while playing full screen NetFlix? I used this guide to install.. maybe something is available that's better? ---> http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/how-to-get-netflix-streaming-on-ubuntu-1210/4019/
[15:41] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: make a file and enter this into it: ddns-update-style none; default-lease-time 600; max-lease-time 7200; subnet 192.168.57.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 {range 192.168.57.10 192.168.57.20; option routers 192.168.57.1;}
[15:41] <anew> does ps aux list all currently running processes?
[15:42] <phracker> all the user's processes, at least
[15:42] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: now install isc-dhcp-server
[15:42] <phracker> sudo ps aux would list all
[15:42] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: now know the hotspot interface;
[15:42] <someHuman> Munster: Which was?
[15:43] <anew> hmmm ok
[15:43] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: use the following command to give ur hotspot an ip and all the other clients: dhcp -cf /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf
[15:43] <preetam> Hi system hangs in between while upgrading to 14.04
[15:44] <preetam> ubuntu 14.04 upgrade stops in the middle..please tell me how to resume installation
[15:44] <Spidernet> preetam: do-release-upgrade
[15:45] <Spidernet> preetam: dats the command
[15:45] <BrianH> Is there a way to reinstall the new lockscreen in 14.04?  I was using light-locker in 13.10, and since 14.04 integrates LightDM for the lock screen now, I uninstalled light-locker and now it displays a full screen terminal with a blinking cursor when it idles.
[15:45] <minimec> preetam: So you are sure that the upgrade will not finish? In that case reboot the machine and do 'sudo dpkg --configure -a'. Afterwards I would verify that the ubuntu-desktop package is installed (or kubuntu, xubuntu,...) That might do all you need.
[15:46] <Spidernet> BrianH: apt-get install light-locker
[15:46] <BrianH> If I toggle the ttys (to tty6 and back to tty7), it'll display the lightdm lock screen
[15:46] <rAg3nix> Spidernet, sorry i got disconnected , any help ?
[15:46] <BrianH> Spidernet: When I used light-locker with 14.04, it would ask me to login twice.
[15:47] <minimec> preetam: http://askubuntu.com/questions/346678/how-do-i-resume-a-release-upgrade-update
[15:47] <BrianH> Spidernet: Which is why I uninstalled it, considering 14.04 integrates it somehow.
[15:48] <preetam> spidernet: it says no new release found
[15:49] <BrianH> Spidernet: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1284918
[15:50] <BrianH> I'm using Unity though, not xubuntu
[15:50] <majod> anyone succesfully set up video acceleration in vlc in 14.04?
[15:50] <majod> im using ati gpu
[15:52] <BrianH> Looks like this is the bug here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-greeter/+bug/1293099
[15:52] <anew> any way to sort ps aux by date?
[15:53] <Spidernet> BrianH: alright.. what lookscreen were u using in ubuntu 13.04
[15:53] <BrianH> light-locker, in 13.10
[15:54] <Spidernet> BrianH: it is gives u a bug wen u try installing it?
[15:54] <OSaddict> How successful is the upgrade from 13.10 to 14.04?
[15:54] <Spidernet> OSaddict: great
[15:55] <lycihao> any Chinese here?
[15:55] <OSaddict> Even if I've installed a ton of PPAs and messed with settings and config files and crap like that?
[15:55] <rAg3nix> Spidernet, ?
[15:56] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: i sent the configuration.. i don't know if u read it
[15:56] <OSaddict> I've heard about Mint users borking their systems with the in-place upgrade, so I'm a bit wary.
[15:56] <Spidernet> rAg3nix: to make things easier for you, install ap-hotspot
[15:57] <asdofindia> OSaddict, what configurations have you changed?
[15:58] <nixnine> i have ubuntu studio 13.10 installed.  Something has happened and now all my disks are read only.  Any solution to this, aside from reinstalling?
[15:59] <OSaddict> A ton of compiz stuff and stuff for a bunch of programs. I didn't touch the kernel, though.
[15:59] <MCl0vin> Happy Easter everyone
[15:59] <leurian> hi people
[15:59] <leuApodo2> hi men
[16:00] <rAg3nix> Spidernet, yes i did read it , and i am getting this (no subnet declaration for wlan0 10.42.0.1 ) the thing is .. i have two systems, i am connecting to a wireless through pc1 and sharing the same over ethernet, then using using ethernet in pc2 and sharing it over wifi , the shared connections by default get 10.42.0.1 as ip address .. so between my two shares there is ip conflict
[16:01] <OSaddict> I don't think I'll upgrade now. My system has few problems right now.
[16:01] <OSaddict> On the subject, is there a way to do an in-place downgrade?
[16:03] <proteneer_> hi I'm trying to figure out which ubuntu package corresponds to updating the CA certs?
[16:03] <minimec>  OSaddict software settings and stuff are in your /home/yourname folder. That will not harm the upgrade and settings will be available after upgrade. All PPA's will be disabled per default for the upgrade. That shouldn't be a problem either. I would maybe uninstall some restricted drivers for the GPU...
[16:04] <minimec> OSaddict: No downgrade possible!
[16:04] <alaing> Hi I'm trying ot copy a file from one directory to another using commandline
[16:04] <alaing> laings@my-server:/var/www/albums/backup$ sudo cp backup-2014_04_19-18_35_51.zdb /var/www/gallery/backup/
[16:04] <alaing> cp: cannot create regular file â/var/www/gallery/backup/â: Not a directory
[16:05] <Munster> alaing, cp -r for dirs/folders
[16:06] <CorkyMoo> Hello!  Why no Kompozer on Ubuntu's repositories?
[16:06] <alaing> Munster: I'm just trying to copy a single file in the current directory to another directory
[16:06] <MaxSan> anyone here used wpa_supplicant from the cli to get wifi on?
[16:07] <trism> alaing: does /var/www/gallery/backup exist? are you sure you didn't mean /var/www/albums/backup/ ? (in which case you might just use . instead
[16:07] <OSaddict> They've dropped support for sooo much stuf after 12.04, and my netbook is suffering from it. Oh well, I'll just backup and reinstall.
[16:07] <Munster> MaxSan, which wifi chip ?
[16:07] <alaing> trism: doh.....backup folder doesn't exist
[16:07] <MaxSan> whichever is in the yoga 2 pro
[16:07] <MaxSan> Munster
[16:07] <MaxSan> i can do an
[16:07] <MaxSan> sudo rmmod ideapad_laptop
[16:08] <MaxSan> to get it working usually. I have ran that but this app seems to give errors of some description
[16:09] <Munster> MaxSan, run sudo lshw -C network in the terminal and pastebin the result
[16:10] <GJPMiningco> can anyone help me setup dhcpd
[16:10] <CorkyMoo> Hello!  Why no Kompozer on Ubuntu's repositories?  I like Mate on Mint seems to be close to the wonderful Gnome 2.  Dislike Gnome 3, Unity and Metro. YUK!!
[16:10] <MaxSan> its on a different machine i cant cp it here
[16:10] <MaxSan> what line of info you want?
[16:11] <alunduil> I recently stumbled across a small error in the generated vagrant images here: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/trusty/current/.  The problem is the trusty64 image is actually a 32-bit image.  Where should such a problem be reported?
[16:11] <DJones> CorkyMoo: From memory, kompozer was abandoned as a project a number of years ago
[16:12] <CorkyMoo> Anything to replace it other then Bluefish?
[16:12] <asdofindia> CorkyMoo, I was going to say bluefish :P
[16:12] <Munster> MaxSan, under. description: Network controller, 'product:'
[16:12] <crizis> CorkyMoo: vim!
[16:12] <SleepyPikachu> I attempted to fix heartbleed by doing apt-get upgrade
[16:13] <CorkyMoo> Vim, Ouch..
[16:13] <sasha-> yop I'm wondering how I can write a script that sends me a push notification if a machine connects to the internet
[16:13] <MaxSan> Wireless 7260
[16:13] <sasha-> I'm looking at pushbullet's api right now, and my main concern is sending the push only once after it manages to connect
[16:13] <crizis> CorkyMoo: netbeans, sublime text, vim
[16:13] <sasha-> dunno how I should formulate the script, I'm quite a noob at bash
[16:13] <basketball> my computer is slow is it because I only have 1 gb of ram
[16:14] <sasha-> (this is the API https://www.pushbullet.com/api)
[16:14] <CorkyMoo> I will try nebeans thanks.
[16:14] <SleepyPikachu> This is the output of sudo apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.com/Agnw3V3F
[16:14] <g105b> Can anyone help me work out why pulseaudio won't start? (my audio does work, but I have to control sound through alsamixer) http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292556/
[16:14] <SleepyPikachu> Can anyone help me or tell me where I should go?
[16:14] <alaing> hi I'm having problem with permissions
[16:14] <alaing> I've set my var/www/ to be owner www-data:www-data
[16:14] <alaing> but I keep having to sudo
[16:15] <alaing> and changing owner/group for files
[16:15] <alaing> my user is part of www-data group
[16:15] <troulouliou_dev> sasha-, https://stackoverflow.com/questions/17291233/how-to-check-internet-access-using-bash-script-in-linux
[16:15] <troulouliou_dev> start here
[16:15] <sasha-> kudos I'll check that out troulouliou_dev
[16:15] <SleepyPikachu> alaing: Why don't you just own the directory?
[16:16] <Spidernet> alaing: u changed the ownership of /var/ww to www-data but there are some configuration files that have root access and need to be changed
[16:16] <SorenHolm> GJPMiningco: sure. what's your trouble?
[16:17] <trinode> if I want to find what a file looks like before modification, where can I download the original deb?
[16:17] <alaing> SleepyPikachu Spidernet : drwxr-xr-x+ 20 root      root       4096 Apr 18 20:50 www
[16:17] <trinode> I got this far: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/pulseaudio
[16:17] <OSaddict> Quick question: Is a 802.11g driver compatible with a 802.11n network card?
[16:17] <MaxSan> Munster: Wireless 7260, an Intel card
[16:18] <alaing> SleepyPikachu Spidernet : drwxr-xr-x+ 12 www-data  www-data    4096 Apr 20 17:08 gallery
[16:18] <GJPMiningco> I have a deditcated server at a Data center with 2 onboard nic card that is running ubuntu desktop 14.04, eth0 has a static IP and eth1 goes to a 8 port unmanaged gigabit switch. I need to know how to give the Systems connected to that switch internet access since they are all setup as DHCP for their IP addresses the Dedicated server needs to provide Net access to all devices connected to the switch which is connected to eth1
[16:18] <Spidernet> alaing: change the permissions " chmod 777 www-data" because the file still belongs to root
[16:18] <alaing> gallery is a direcotry
[16:19] <SleepyPikachu> alaing: alaing Please use a pastebin; It's impossible to read in chat.
[16:19] <alaing> with other folders and php CMS
[16:19] <GJPMiningco> and Provide IP's and DNS servers also
[16:19] <ice9> how to install an older lib that isn't in the current repo?
[16:19] <majod> anyone has idea how to enable gpu acceleration in vlc? simply checking it doesnt work. ati gpu/ trusty
[16:20] <alaing> brb
[16:20] <TrevorBradley> Hey everyone.  Help!  My GRUB2 seemed to blow up after my 14.04 install.  I managed to boot from an install CD, verify my Linux Software Raid was still workig, and get boot repair up, but it doesn't work.  It gives me the following pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292458/  Can anyone help?
[16:21] <TrevorBradley> *upgrade, not install
[16:21] <SorenHolm> GJPMiningco: Well for the DHCP-part you can seltup dhcpd like this http://paste.ubuntu.com/7292598
[16:22] <OSaddict> Is a 802.11g driver compatible with a 802.11n network card?
[16:22] <SorenHolm> GJPMiningco: You can just change the dns-server to 8.8.8.8 for the clients to use googles name server.
[16:23] <raalex> join #libreoffice
[16:23] <GJPMiningco> Well they can use the Data Centers DNS servers
[16:23] <raalex> that is not what I wanted to do
[16:23] <SorenHolm> GJPMiningco: Then you basically just need a couple of iptables rules to allow forwarning of the network-traffic.
[16:23] <ekkabanov> Привет, есть кто русский?
[16:24] <Munster> MaxSan, scroll down to 4, http://askubuntu.com/questions/322511/no-wireless-with-intel-centrino-advanced-n-7260
[16:24] <MaxSan> im running 14.04
[16:26] <MaxSan> yeh munter my kernell is version 3.13.0-24
[16:26] <sasha-> troulouliou_dev: well I tried that script, copied it out exactly and got 'pushtest.sh: 4: pushtest.sh: [[: not found' as the output :/
[16:28] <troulouliou_dev> sasha-, works for me
[16:28] <sasha-> well.... how do I find out why it doesn't work for me :P ?
[16:28] <troulouliou_dev> sasha-, read ; learn; test ; think :p
[16:28] <troulouliou_dev> sasha-, pastebin eventually :)
[16:29] <sasha-> well there's not much to pastebin :P
[16:29] <trism> sasha-: did you try to expand a var in [[ ]] without quoting it?
[16:29] <sasha-> no trism
[16:29] <GJPMiningco> is there a way to scan for all IP's currently  active connected to eth1
[16:30] <djskajdi> is it safe to update to 14.04?
[16:30] <SorenHolm> GJPMiningco: nmap -sP <eth1 IP>/<eth1 subnet>
[16:31] <captine> djskajdi, what setup are you using?  I have my personal laptops on it and it is rock solid.  My vps server is still on 12.04 as I am following what some said about waiting for the 14.04.1 release
[16:31] <stefg> GJPMiningco: man netstsat
[16:31] <jamf> hi there!
[16:31] <stefg> GJPMiningco: man netstat  ... that is
[16:31] <sasha-> yeah so what do you mean to expand a var in [[`` trism ?
[16:31] <djskajdi> normal desktp machine
[16:31] <sasha-> yeah i dunno where the other part of the bracket is
[16:32] <abhinavmehta> Trying to setup openvpn, getting this error on server side.. https://dpaste.de/XvSp
[16:32] <trism> sasha-: might want to just pastebin the script, though another question, are you trying to use [[ ]] in /bin/sh (which is dash not bash)
[16:33] <sasha-> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/XFl8fjhe
[16:33] <sasha-> that's the script
[16:33] <stefg> abhinavmehta: seems your certificate isn't generated correctly
[16:33] <Bluewolf> Hi all, when a new release comes out does it have the new features of the previous version. Eg 12.04s' features included in 14.04 as well as its new features?
[16:34] <abhinavmehta> certificate generation went fine..
[16:34] <abhinavmehta> did twice now..
[16:34] <trism> sasha-: yeah it was the first one, you didn't quote $?, if it expands to the empty string you get that error, though why it shouldn't have the return value I'm not sure
[16:34] <stefg> abhinavmehta: but read your error message: it's obvoiusly not fit for the purpose
[16:34] <abhinavmehta> If you like, I can paste steps..
[16:35] <TrevorBradley> Different question then.. is there a way I can boot into my MDADM Software raid root partition from an install CD?
[16:35] <abhinavmehta> I know, but net-net I don't know how to fix that.. thats why I need your help
[16:35] <abhinavmehta> I'm setting up very basic openvpn
[16:35] <abhinavmehta> If you like, I can share step by step, I'm doing
[16:35] <stefg> abhinavmehta: SSL3_GET_CLIENT_CERTIFICATE:no certificate returned speaks for itself, doesn't it?
[16:36] <abhinavmehta> stefg: Yes Sir, but can you help me fixing it.
[16:36] <abhinavmehta> Since I don’t have clue
[16:36] <stefg> abhinavmehta: not really...
[16:36] <sasha-> trism: I really need to emphasize that I'm an absolute beginner in terms of bash
[16:36] <proteneer_> how can i apt-get my list of packages that need to be upgraded?
[16:36] <abhinavmehta> :(
[16:37] <abhinavmehta> stefg: do you have done openvpn setup earlier.. ?
[16:37] <stefg> abhinavmehta: Google is your friend (in this case :) ) ... https://forums.openvpn.net/topic10828.html when you paste that into Google
[16:38] <abhinavmehta> stefg: for last 3 hours, I’m on Google. Some linode forum has something, but out of my head..
[16:38] <abhinavmehta> so, thought to take some advice from firends
[16:38] <abhinavmehta> *friends
[16:38] <stefg> abhinavmehta: is that a dedicated server machine you're setting up?
[16:38] <abhinavmehta> yes
[16:39] <abhinavmehta> yes, its dedicated VPS
[16:39] <stefg> abhinavmehta: have you looked at zentyal or maybe webmin? that can facilitate things a lot, if you're not fluid on the cli
[16:39] <djskajdi> ubuntu needs to install 80 new packets while upgrading to 14.04, is it an error?
[16:40] <abhinavmehta> stefg: Its baremetal, I’m good with CLI, not with openvpn
[16:40] <VanKush> please can anyone give me a hint on how do i change keyboard layouts available in the lightdm greeter?
[16:40] <HelpMEPLEASE> hi, i am having problem installing python-numpy and python-scipy using apt-get
[16:41]  * stefg still wonders that people tend to do upgrades. Backup, fresh install, restore wanted data is usually faster and results in a clean and *working* system
[16:41] <brian____> Looking for advice - filed Bug 1306237 several weeks ago and have updated with all info I can provide but with Ubuntu 14.04 x64 desktop OS I am having random files dissappearing from 2TB sata3 HD, ext4, disk.  Twice files disappeared after next morning reboot.   SMART disk check says drive is OK no errors, so does FSCK.
[16:41] <HelpMEPLEASE> i could not import numpy if i use apt-get, but if i install it from source, it works fine.
[16:41] <abhinavmehta> stefg: Quick suggestion.. If I paste all my steps on one page, than it will be quick for you to read and point out, I’m doing anything wrong.
[16:41] <trism> sasha-: the script is working perfectly here though, I'm kind of confused why it isn't working for you
[16:41] <sasha-> yeah so am I :/
[16:41] <HelpMEPLEASE> how do i fix it so that it works with apt-get
[16:41] <abhinavmehta> stefg: its all possible, if you know openvpn
[16:42] <brian____> I've had one instance where some of the files reappeared several days ... and thus several shutdown/startups later.
[16:42] <trism> sasha-: wait, how are you running it?
[16:42] <brian____> I've been using ubuntu a long time and EXT4 as well and I've never had anything like this occuring and would like advice about what else I might check
[16:42] <sasha-> ...... oups
[16:43] <sasha-> ran it as sh script.sh, now I ran it as ./script.sh
[16:43] <brian____> I am only using 540GB of the 2TB drive
[16:43] <abhinavmehta> stefg: ?
[16:43] <stefg> abhinavmehta: i've never worked with openvpn selectively. I did  setup some SMB servers using zentyal and clearOS using their webgui. That's already a couple of years in the past, so i can't really help
[16:43] <sasha-> sorry trism
[16:43] <trism> sasha-: yeah that was it, dash doesn't have [[ ]], np, glad you got it working
[16:43] <abhinavmehta> stefg: np, thank you!
[16:44] <brian____> First noticed this problem with the Final Beta but I've been updated all packages last Thurs 17th and today... had files I've been working on for 3 days disappear?
[16:44] <brian____> again SMART tests and FSCK show disk is healthy OK  and no errors
[16:45] <jamf> I upgraded from 13.10 to 14.04 yesterday, and now gnome is acting weird
[16:45] <jamf> I have installed gnome 3 from the ppas
[16:45] <carlos> hola
[16:46] <jamf> now my terminals arent transparent, chromium doesnt shade and i have no launcher
[16:46] <jamf> :/
[16:46] <OSaddict> Does anyone know of a support channel like this, but for Windows?
[16:46] <Guest75724> quien español?
[16:46] <bekks> OSaddict: ##windows
[16:46] <donniezazen> Is Ubuntu 14.04 shipped with Java runtime pre-installed?
[16:46] <bekks> !es | Guest75724
[16:47] <Guest75724> ok
[16:47] <stefg> brian____: Just read your bug report. i find it quite unlikelythat a serious data corruption issue with ext4 would go unnoticed if this was a common behaviour. I tend to blame hardware...
[16:47] <penguin42> anyone done 'Graphite' (web graphing thing) on ubuntu - if so any idea how to move the root of the path as seen on the server?
[16:49] <brian____> stefg - I agree but as I said both SMART tests and FSCK don't show any errors at all.   I'm cloning the drive to a 2nd unused identical drive now just in case.   But its such a weird problem?
[16:51] <MaxSan> arghhh
[16:51] <penguin42> brian____: So if I understand your problem is you're losing data on the running system but it reappears after reboot?
[16:51] <MaxSan> unity is being horrible
[16:51] <MaxSan> it wont start
[16:51] <stefg> brian____: my take is that the *new* files (or their meta-info) never hit the actual metal, but only lived in the writeback cache... that doesn't explain while virtualbox files where missing. Waht can you say about your hardware?
[16:53] <trinode> ok, anyone know why pulseaudio wouldn't load what's specified in /etc/pulse/default.pa?
[16:53] <kman> Hi guys does someone know how to upload screenshots here to get some advices?
[16:54] <dysoco_> I use Shutter
[16:54] <anew> killall perl seems to work to terminate all my perl programs
[16:54] <dysoco_> you can take a picture and automatically upload it to imgur or some other place
[16:54] <brian____> stefg - ASUS Sabertooth 990FX r2.0 mobo, AMD FX8350 cpu, 16GB ddr3 ram, 3 - 2TB HD's only 1 used right now and formatted EXT4 ... system is little over 1 yr old
[16:54] <anew> but killall Autoview.pl
[16:54] <anew> does not
[16:54] <anew> anyone know why?
[16:54] <kman> i have the screenshot mate
[16:55] <kman> i need to upload here
[16:55] <dysoco> use imgur.com
[16:56] <anew> dysoco can you help
[16:56] <anew> killall perl works but killall Auto.pl does not
[16:56] <dysoco> anew, run top or use ps to see the PID of the Perl script
[16:57] <kman> ok thanks dysoco
[16:57] <anew> i dont want to kill by PID
[16:57] <anew> i want to kill by name
[16:57] <OerHeks> !info pkill
[16:57] <dysoco> well maybe you can get the name via the PID
[16:57] <dysoco> not sure
[16:57] <Bluewolf> Hi all, when a new release comes out does it have the new features of the previous version. Eg 12.04s' features included in 14.04 as well as its new features?
[16:57] <dysoco> well you can use pkill too, of course
[16:57] <excalibr> Can someone give me the gsetting command to toggle minimize on click in 14.04?
[16:57] <anew> name is Auto.pl
[16:57] <anew> pkill kills by name?
[16:57] <dysoco> try 'pkill auto.pl'
[16:57] <penguin42> Bluewolf: Generally, sometime a few are killed off
[16:57] <dysoco> yes
[16:57] <stefg> brian____: Looks like a gamer-rig... any overclocking, writeback-caching or other (stupid) stuff going on?
[16:58] <brian____> stefg - no overclocking... don't use games
[16:58] <Bluewolf> penguin42: The ones that are surely of not of any value - generally?
[16:59] <brian____> stefg - I do alot with LXC, KVM, Openstack & sometimes Virtualbox  .. most work related stuff
[16:59] <penguin42> Bluewolf: Yeh generally, although that can depend if the guy who had to do the work to keep it working agreed it was valuable
[17:01] <erry> so i upgraded to 14.04 and i'm trying to use gnome, and whengoing to the network settings it says 'the system network settings are nto compatible with this version'
[17:01] <stefg> brian____: hmmm... ok. I'm a pro also, but never, ever lost a file on ext4. i'd look into my mounting options in fstab. Might be a silly bug only occuring with THAT particular firmware and THAT particular kernel.
[17:01] <anew> no pkill didnt work either
[17:01] <penguin42> brian____: So this is a simple ext4 on a normal partition on a normal hard disk on a normal PC ?
[17:01] <penguin42> brian____: no encryption/lvm/virtual machine/etc
[17:02] <Bluewolf> penguin42: Okay, exactly how much can 14.04 be customised?. Like with compiz as well as unity and could its interface be adjusted to look like Linux Mint Cinnamon for example?
[17:02] <stefg> brian___ i'm just guessing, but my gut instinct says it might have something to do with the disks firmware. Are both of your disks the same make and series?
[17:02] <erry> seems to work in Unity tho
[17:03] <NOki> guys i need ubuntu help
[17:03] <NOki> i can't get mta to run on wine pls
[17:03] <NOki> and i need ahoma fonts pls
[17:03] <penguin42> Bluewolf: I don't know, I use kubuntu, so you can always just chuck unity out if you don't like it and use a different desktop
[17:05] <brian____> stefg - yes all 3 drives were bought at same time.   ASUS mobo was updated to latest bios 7-8 months ago.   problem is recent.
[17:05] <Bluewolf> Anyone else know how customizable Ubuntu 14.04 is, changing it appearence?
[17:05] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
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[17:05] <brian____> penguin42 - no encryption on drive...
[17:05] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! V
[17:05] <OerHeks> !ops | Diegonese
[17:06] <bekks> !ops | Diegonese
[17:06] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
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[17:06] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
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[17:06] <Fusl> !ops ] Diegonese
[17:06] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
[17:06] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
[17:06] <Diegonese> FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK YOU ALL ! FUCK Y
[17:06] <unopaste> Diegonese you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[17:06] <Fusl> unopaste: tnx
[17:06] <anew> wtf
[17:06] <Fusl> IdleOne: tnx <3
[17:07] <phillip> klined :)
[17:07] <Fusl> yay
[17:07] <PxlVision> nice
[17:07] <Fusl> so... who tried out 14.04 yet? is it better then 13.10 or any previous version? i'm planning to install it on my mbp
[17:07] <leurian> how are you?
[17:07] <TriJetScud> thanks
[17:07] <kouskous> pretty
[17:07] <kouskous> how are you ?
[17:08] <Bombo> hi
[17:08] <Spidernet> Bombo: hi
[17:09] <trism> excalibr: it is on a relocatable schema so I'm not sure the right path to read/write the key with gsettings but: dconf write /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/launcher-minimize-window true; works
[17:09] <stefg> brian____:  seems like a wierd problem. Me personally would take to similar sized disks, but of different vendors and raid-1 them. If i see resyncs in the logs i know that one of the disks has  a problem...
[17:09] <Bombo> i'm using ubuntu 12.10 but i don't find libsdl2, how can i install it?
[17:10] <stefg> !info libsdl quantal
[17:11] <stefg> !info libsdl2 quantal
[17:11] <Th_rez_> I've got an nfs mount in fstab that seems to work, except that it only seems to mount successfully after boot (and after start up various daemons and such)
[17:12] <Th_rez_> is there a way to get it to mount and then wait for it to be mounted successfully before continuing on?
[17:12] <stefg> Th_rez_: have you considered autofs?
[17:12] <Th_rez_> Sorry, I'm a relative novice at this... what's autofs?
[17:12] <trism> excalibr: ahh it is: gsettings set org.compiz.unityshell:/org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/unityshell/ launcher-minimize-window true;
[17:12] <stefg> !info autofs
[17:13] <stefg> Th_rez_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs
[17:13] <Th_rez_> Thanks, I'll check it out
[17:14] <stefg> Th_rez_: I think it's much more convinient to use that than troubleshoot your static nfs mounting
[17:14] <STiK> Diegonese must be having a bad easter lol
[17:14] <Th_rez_> It seems appropriate, I'll give it a try
[17:15] <Lost> does anyone here have both a rooted android phone, and also use ubuntu?
[17:15] <stefg> Th_rez_: it has a lot of advantages in a sitaution where you don't have a 24/7 running nfs server.
[17:16] <HelpMEPLEASE> numpy manual installation works but not apt-get
[17:16] <HelpMEPLEASE> i have been searching for hours.
[17:16] <HelpMEPLEASE> I removed and reinstalled numpy scipy
[17:16] <HelpMEPLEASE> checked with synaptic package manager
[17:17] <HelpMEPLEASE> if there are any borken packages
[17:17] <HelpMEPLEASE> alas
[17:17] <HelpMEPLEASE> help me please
[17:17] <Spidernet> HelpMEPLEASE: wat platform are u using?
[17:17] <HelpMEPLEASE> ubuntu 14.04
[17:17] <HelpMEPLEASE> i downloaded the numpy manually
[17:18] <k1l_> HelpMEPLEASE: the package name is "python-numpy"
[17:18] <k1l_> !info python-numpy
[17:18] <k1l_> no need to download anything from other sites
[17:19] <Bombo> !info sdl
[17:19] <Bombo> !info libsdl
[17:19] <Slart> HelpMEPLEASE: are you using python2 or python 3?
[17:19] <Bombo> !info libsdl2
[17:19] <HelpMEPLEASE> yes, i did apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy
[17:21] <stefg> Bombo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/trusty/libsdl2 ... seems you need to upgrade. only available from saucy
[17:21] <stefg> Bombo: but quantal is nearing EOL anyway
[17:22] <VoidAtValhalla> lol
[17:22] <Bombo> stefg: compiling...
[17:23] <k1l_> HelpMEPLEASE: did you install "sudo apt-get install python-numpy python-scipy python-matplotlib ipython ipython-notebook python-pandas python-sympy python-nose" according to the numpy website?
[17:23] <HelpMEPLEASE> yes
[17:23] <HelpMEPLEASE> i did
[17:23] <k1l_> HelpMEPLEASE: and what is your issue with numpy now? does it work? do you get an error?
[17:23] <HelpMEPLEASE> and could not import the numpy
[17:23] <stefg> Bombo: hehe... but you should really consider to leave quantal now. 14.04 is quite nice and *fast*
[17:24] <Bombo> stefg: New release '13.04' available.
[17:24] <Bombo> Run 'do-release-upgrade' to upgrade to it.
[17:24] <HelpMEPLEASE> ImportError: No module named scipy
[17:24] <k1l_> Bombo: are you on 12.10?
[17:24] <HelpMEPLEASE> the same for numpy and other modules k1l_
[17:25] <Bombo> stefg: so i do that and i get 13.04, and then from there i could do it again to get 14.04?
[17:25] <Bombo> k1l_: indeed
[17:25] <trinode> what the heck starts pulseaudio all the time? (it's not starting up right)
[17:25] <k1l_> Bombo: then upgrade to 13.04, then 13.10 and then 14.04
[17:25] <stefg> Bombo: you'll have to upgrade thru 3 releases... Don't do. Backup, make a nice fresh install of 14.04, restore your wanted data.
[17:25] <Spidernet> trinode: add this; update-rc.d -f pulseaudio enable
[17:25] <trinode> Spidernet: it is starting, but it's not loading the modules it should
[17:26] <trinode> Spidernet: and it's running as the user who logs in
[17:26] <c3l> Should I use CompizConfig Settings Manager or Unity Tweak Tool to configure stuff?
[17:26] <Bombo> k1l_: with do-release-upgrade?
[17:26] <k1l_> Bombo: yes
[17:26] <ovrflw0x_> what is the application launcher on left side called in gnome3?
[17:26] <belak2> Is there a way to change the icon of something in unity without messing around with replacing system wide .desktop files?
[17:27] <Bombo> stefg: hmkay, or i do backup, then try upgrade ;)
[17:27] <Lost> if I export my firefox favorites list on windows XP, save the file(s) to a USB hard drive, could I then start ubuntu, and import them into the ubuntu version of firefox?
[17:27] <VoidAtValhalla> ovrflw0x_: dash
[17:27] <Spidernet> trinode: cd /usr/sbin; ./pulseaudio
[17:27] <Bombo> stefg: if it fails i still can do a fresh install
[17:27] <k1l_> Bombo: you can consider to make a 14.04 new install. might be faster with backing up your data and oput the data back after 14.04 install. just a choice
[17:27] <Spidernet> trinode: cd /usr/bin
[17:27] <Slart> Lost: afaik you should be able to
[17:28] <Spidernet> trinode: ./pulseaudio
[17:28] <trinode> E: [pulseaudio] pid.c: Daemon already running.
[17:28] <trinode> E: [pulseaudio] main.c: pa_pid_file_create() failed.
[17:28] <emmetea> so i was having some problems a few days ago booting back into windows 8 after installing ubuntu 14.04. i had been given the information to check out the UEFI community page and been told to use Boot-Repair. it wouldn't install, but i had put the bios into legacy mode. that wouldn't work, but it then went through a few boot options and after being a told a few times that there was no operating system, it finally booted grub2 with th
[17:28] <emmetea> e splash screen i had installed and would boot both linux and windows. however i hadn't "done" anything. should i bother trying to figure out why it worked or just accept that it works and hope it doesn't break again?
[17:28] <trinode> like I said, it's running, but it's not loading some of the modules from /etc/pulse/default.pa
[17:29] <stefg> Bombo: in my experience release-upgrades tend to break. Just think of all the wasted bandwidth. Be nice and tidy, gain a backup on the way and start with a fresh 14.04 install. I never release upgrade, but dual-boot the previous and the actual version for a while
[17:29] <djskajdi> how to get ubuntu version?
[17:29] <Lost> slart thanks
[17:29] <trinode> I manually have to load the module using pactl
[17:30] <stefg> Bombo: Nowadays a fresh install is so painless (on the right hardware) that i never bother to takethe smallest risk of breakage
[17:30] <Slart> djskajdi: lsb_release -a   should work
[17:31] <red234324> recommendations for an ubuntu power manager? xfce pm is playing up so time to try a new one
[17:32] <VoidAtValhalla> red234324: big red button ? lol
[17:32] <JohnDory> VoidAtValhalla: lol
[17:32] <SonikkuAmerica> red234324: Are you using XFCE?
[17:32] <red234324> VoidAtValhalla, lol
[17:32] <red234324> SonikkuAmerica, yes
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> red234324: You don't have too many options theb
[17:33] <SonikkuAmerica> *then
[17:33]  * SonikkuAmerica is an XFCE user himself
[17:34] <red234324> seems that way SonikkuAmerica, i like xfce though
[17:35] <red234324> on a laptop which powered off due to low battery, been a while since that happened, the xfce power manager isn't working so i'd like to try a new one
[17:35] <CarlFK> in a shell, cd into a dir of png's.  how do I bring up the window full of thumb nails, or the image viewer that has a "next" button so I can see them all ?
[17:36] <Slart> CarlFK: can't you just run nautilus ./   or something like that?
[17:36] <Spidernet> Slart: u can
[17:36] <CarlFK> Slart: that works.  thanks.
[17:36] <stefg> CarlFK: i'd imagine something like 'shotwell .'
[17:37] <Odd-rationale> CarlFK: "eog ." also works
[17:37] <some1234> will upgrading from ubuntu 13 to 14 remove kde
[17:37] <penguin42> some1234: No
[17:37] <Aaruni> ok, I'm on trusty, and print-screen doesn't work. launchapd says that a fix has been released, but I see no more upgrades in apt. help ?
[17:37] <bekks> some1234: Which 13 do you have?
[17:37] <some1234> 13.8
[17:37] <xubuntu_> EY =D
[17:37] <xubuntu_> hola
[17:37] <bekks> some1234: Thats not an Ubuntu version.
[17:38] <MannerMan> Does anyone know a good alternative for Ubuntu Builder? Would like to make a customized 14.04 iso
[17:38] <stefg> Aaruni: try again tomorrow. mirrors need syncing
[17:38] <Aaruni> stefg, was it released today ?
[17:38] <some1234> I mean 13.10
[17:39] <some1234> will it remove kdm
[17:39] <dcmg> MannerMan: i just use `debootstrap'
[17:39] <bekks> some1234: The answer was given already.
[17:39] <stefg> Aaruni: i don't know. but even if a fix is released it needs to be built and propagated through the ecosystem. Could take a while, and trusty is only 3 days old
[17:39] <dcmg> and build it like a debian or ubntu dev would
[17:39] <dcmg> only better :D
[17:39] <k1l_> some1234: why should it?
[17:39] <Aaruni> stefg, the bug was reported on 20-2-2014
[17:40] <stefg> Aaruni: got a link?
[17:40] <some1234> IDK
[17:40] <red234324> gonna give this a go - http://askubuntu.com/questions/353076/sometimes-xfce4-power-manager-stuck
[17:40] <Aaruni> stefg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-settings-daemon/+bug/1282649
[17:41] <MannerMan> dcmg: Looks nice, can I load up the "desktop" and make changes the GUI way aswell?
[17:41] <dcmg> MannerMan: sure, just a lot of work
[17:41] <dcmg> but if you do it right, i am sure the ubuntu or debian devs would be more interested in your work down the road
[17:42] <dcmg> man deboottrap, you will see that you can build against upstream releases
[17:42] <MannerMan> dcmg: I see.. Ubuntu Builder made it so easy but its abandoned now and does not work with 14.04
[17:42] <dcmg> debootstrap *
[17:42] <dcmg> MannerMan: ofc it doesnt, auto build systems never survive long
[17:43] <dcmg> maybe 1-2 releases before they are completely broken, dont ask me why
[17:43] <MannerMan> dcmg: You have a good point :)
[17:43] <MannerMan> I also tried Ubuntu Customize kit or whatever it was called, but it was very limited
[17:44] <MannerMan> will look into debootstrap, seems as if its very powerful even though it's a bit more complicated
[17:44] <stefg> Aaruni: hmmm.... did you do a fresh install? The hotkey mapping might be still broken
[17:44] <Aaruni> stefg, yes, fresh install, around 20 hours ago
[17:45] <dcmg> MannerMan: it really is. try to think of it as your "base" without a boot loader. try just just deboostrapping a "chroot" and `chroot' 'ing into it
[17:45] <dcmg> as a first step
[17:46] <MannerMan> dcmg: Will do, and I can create a ISO from this aswell?
[17:46] <dcmg> an ubuntu chroot made with debootstrap, is basically a fully fnctioning system but without a bootloader, and just sitting in a directory
[17:46] <dcmg> MannerMan: absolutely
[17:46] <dcmg> the directory you are left with after deboostrap, should be your "iso root"
[17:47] <MannerMan> dcmg: That sounds very handy, for more than just building a custom iso
[17:47] <dcmg> MannerMan: true
[17:47] <MannerMan> =)
[17:48] <basketball> how can i tell if adding more ram will speed up computer
[17:48] <MaxSan> so unity doesnt start, i switch to a cli with ctrl + alt + f1. then i try and restart unity but i get a dbus connection refused error as there is no display
[17:48] <MaxSan> what am i missing?
[17:48] <stefg> Aaruni: I'd check that you positively have the rught version on your system... and maybe reopen the bug. Wouldn't be the first time that a 'fixed'  package  doesn't actaully fix it for every use case
[17:48] <Aaruni> stefg, update : alt+printscreen works, for taking the current window only. other key combinations don't work
[17:48] <Aaruni> stefg, right version ? its a fresh install, upgraded to latest packages by apt
[17:49] <dcmg> basketball: it will only speed it up, if you are actually running out of ram completely all the time
[17:49] <basketball> dcmg,  how can i tell
[17:49] <dcmg> but basically once half-3/4  your ram is gone, most OS kernels start behaving differently
[17:49] <dcmg> basketball: use   htop
[17:49] <dcmg> sudo apt-get install htop
[17:49] <stefg> Aaruni: I'd reopen the bug...
[17:50] <basketball> dcmg,  and if it is not out of ram???? what can i do to speed it up
[17:51] <dcmg> basketball: use a lighter desktop, install less program, only install smaller programs
[17:51] <dcmg> 1 2 3
[17:51] <aguitel> how install mate desktop in 14.04?
[17:51] <jusama14> Is lubuntu the lightest Ubuntu based distro?
[17:51] <basketball> dcmg,  i am running htop what do i look for
[17:51] <subz3r0> jusama14: yes
[17:51] <dcmg> basketball: the ram and swap usage
[17:51] <dcmg> basketball: preferably you are not using swap at all, it is very slow
[17:52] <basketball> 670/992 memory
[17:52] <jusama14> subz3r0, thanks. Do you think I'll be able to run it with 256 ram allocated to it on a VM?
[17:52] <dcmg> right ok, basketball you could benefit from more ram
[17:52] <stefg> Aaruni: can it be that you have a laptop keyboard on the 'fn' layer ?
[17:52] <basketball> swap 45/1011
[17:52] <subz3r0> jusama14: yes. not that fast. but it will work. tested it here too with lubuntu 12.04
[17:52] <dcmg> basketball: make sure that swap crap doesnt happen
[17:52] <Aaruni> stefg, fn+printscreen doesn't work either.
[17:52] <jusama14> oh ok sweet
[17:52] <dcmg> that is what is slowing you down so much
[17:52] <Aaruni> stefg, also, how do you re-open a bug? I am logged in.
[17:53] <dcmg> basketball: just try to not use as much ram, and if you have to set the swappiness level very low
[17:53] <basketball> dcmg,  will it speed up computer enough to be worth $45
[17:53] <stefg> Aaruni: you cann click on the 'fix released' line
[17:53] <dcmg> basketball: not really
[17:53] <basketball> dcmg,  the swapiness level is 10
[17:53] <hplc> is it a major win to compile the apps yourself on a low-grade machine?
[17:53] <jusama14> subz3r0, do you have any experience with open vswitch on ubuntu?
[17:53] <dcmg> basketball: a new computer with nearly that much ram is only 45 dollars now, raspi , android etc
[17:54] <basketball> 2 gb of ram is like $39.99
[17:54] <subz3r0> jusama14: yes. worked with it today. but not in ubuntu. used it with tiny core
[17:54] <basketball> for my laptop
[17:54] <dcmg> well if you really like the computer, yeah go for it
[17:54] <dcmg> not all that much money
[17:54] <jusama14> subz3r0, can I pm you?
[17:54] <dcmg> but if it was 1000 i would say "no way!"
[17:54] <basketball> dcmg,  how much will it speed it up
[17:54] <subz3r0> sure
[17:54] <dcmg> 100 *
[17:54] <dcmg> basketball: none
[17:55] <dcmg> it will make it less likely to use swap
[17:55] <Aaruni> stefg, the options are greyed out, I can't change.
[17:55] <dcmg> and that will speed it up
[17:55] <dcmg> basketball: indirect effect
[17:55] <dcmg> not using swap, will greatly speed your system up
[17:56] <dcmg> but if you disable it all togerth, that also can cause problems
[17:56] <dcmg> can cause the OS to hang
[17:56] <basketball> dcmg,  should I buy 2 X 1 gb sticks and replace both 512mb or just one 1gb and replace one 512mb so i have 1.5 mb
[17:56] <dcmg> replace both yes, and make sure you are using the right frequency
[17:56] <bekks> basketball: check the manual for the configurations supported before planning to buy RAM.
[17:57] <dcmg> ^ aye
[17:57] <basketball> dcmg I ran a cruical test and i need ddr2 pc2-5300
[17:57] <LinuxGuruz> 32 bit will run faster than 64 bit with only 2 GB if thats the case.
[17:57] <bekks> LinuxGuruz: Thats nonsense.
[17:57] <LinuxGuruz> I've tested it
[17:58] <bekks> Which doesnt mean much, because technically, it is nonsense.
[17:58] <LinuxGuruz> and Ubuntu even recommends it
[17:58] <k1l_> LinuxGuruz: that is nonsense
[17:58] <aguitel> how install mate desktop in 14.04?
[17:58] <redrum> _ruben] Ubuntu rules!!
[17:58] <LinuxGuruz> its on thier download page
[17:58] <basketball> bekks,  do you aggree with dcmg  will getting more ram speed up my computer
[17:58] <k1l_> LinuxGuruz: ubuntu did recommend 32bit because there is still 32bit-only hardware out there. thats it
[17:58] <bekks> basketball: Yes.
[17:59] <k1l_> aguitel: install the mate desktop package
[17:59] <dcmg> LinuxGuruz: dont make gross generalizations, people will just jump down your throat
[17:59] <dcmg> LinuxGuruz: but in general you are obviously correct
[17:59] <arthurfiggis> basketball: depends on what you're doing with your computer :) if you're playing games it helps to an extent but i find video cards and processors make a bigger difference there
[17:59] <k1l_> basketball: it will speed up things but doesnt make any wonders. so see if you want to use a more lightweight desktop or reduce the eyecandy
[17:59] <LinuxGuruz> Just offering him another cheap sullution
[18:00] <LinuxGuruz> ^
[18:00] <basketball> k1l_,  will it stop the freezing
[18:00] <bekks> LinuxGuruz: It isnt any solution at all. It is nonsense.
[18:00] <yoyomama> is this the ubuntu help channel, IRC newb here
[18:00] <k1l_> basketball: i dont know what causes the freeze?
[18:00] <dcmg> yoyomama: yes it is
[18:01] <basketball> idk when i have a lot of stuff open and typing in chrome or libre it freezes
[18:01] <yoyomama> ok then, I used to use ubuntu 10.04LTS on my macbook2,1, but switched to ubuntu12.04LTS
[18:01] <OerHeks> oh, cinnamon removed, mate in repo's ..
[18:01] <k1l_> basketball: what cpu is that?
[18:01] <k1l_> OerHeks: yes
[18:01] <basketball> idk how do i find out
[18:01] <yoyomama> the problem I am having is that I have no idea how to right-click anymore.  control+left click doesn't work. the mouse settings menu doesn't have any way to set right click either
[18:02] <k1l_> basketball: "lshw"
[18:02] <basketball> k1l_,  and switching betweeen windows is slow
[18:02] <k1l_> basketball: is it unity?
[18:02] <basketball> yes
[18:03] <k1l_> use unity-tweak-tool to reduce the eyecandy (like shadows, etc) to make it more fluid
[18:03] <herow> Hello all
[18:04] <herow> Just upgraded to Trusty Tahr
[18:04] <basketball> k1l_,  PPCI (sysfs)
[18:04] <herow> however now it seems I can not run more than 1 instance of VLC
[18:04] <herow> anyone knows why ?
[18:05] <k1l_> basketball: that is your CPU? i dont think so
[18:05] <SchrodingersScat> herow: did it reset the setting to only allow one instance?
[18:05] <basketball> k1l_,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7293261/
[18:05] <dupingping> How to register new loco team?
[18:05] <yoyomama> anyone know how to change right-click settings in ubuntu 12.04LTS? the mouse settings doesn't list anything...
[18:05] <xangua> herow: did you check that option in vlc preferences?
[18:05] <herow> hmm good one to check Xangua
[18:06] <basketball> k1l_,  under unity twak tool which is eye candy under
[18:06] <k1l_> dupingping: #ubuntu-community-team
[18:06] <k1l_> basketball: see the menue entries and try
[18:07] <k1l_> dupingping: or better: #ubuntu-locoteams
[18:07] <interweb> Hello , I wanted to upgrade my ubuntu 13.10 to 14.04 but I have canceled it in the middle of work . and it has cahnged my ppa's . How do I can upgrade it to 14.04 ?
[18:07] <herow> thx Xangua
[18:08] <herow> how could I be so stupid to overlook that
[18:09] <h1n1> sup
[18:10] <dw1> interweb: maybe do-release-upgrade will continue the process
[18:10] <interweb> dw1, How ?
[18:10] <dw1> interweb: do-release-upgrade from terminal
[18:11] <k1l_> interweb: can you please put that in a pastebin?"uname -a" "cat /etc/sources.list" and "lsb_release -a"
[18:11] <dw1> interweb: listen to k1l :)
[18:12] <loginix> netflix on ubuntu is so much more awesome
[18:12] <h1n1> really?
[18:12] <dw1> interweb: notice i said 'maybe' implying i dont know what im doing :p
[18:15] <loginix> yes runs so smooth i love it
[18:16] <loginix> i remember the days when this wasn't possible on ubuntu
[18:18] <Uninstall2> hello *
[18:18] <Uninstall2> does anyone knows where I can find QtWebkit 5.2 packages?
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !info libqtwebkit
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> Uhhh
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> !info libqt5webkit5
[18:19] <SonikkuAmerica> We have QtWebKit 5.1
[18:23] <Uninstall2> SonikkuAmerica: yes, I know, but I can't really understand why
[18:24] <Uninstall2> and I'm looking for some unofficial backports or something like that
[18:24] <k1l_> !ppa | Uninstall2
[18:25] <k1l_> search in that list if you find a ppa for that
[18:25] <untrothy> I'm trying to run a command as another user but I don't understand why -u doesn't work. sudo -u my-user 'my-command' gives me "my-command command not found"
[18:25] <DJones> Uninstall2: I doub't there would be backports to  14.04 as its only just been releaed, if there isn't a ppa, you probably looking at compiling it yourself (which obviously isn't supported here)
[18:26] <Uninstall2> ok, thank you
[18:28] <Uninstall2> shipping Qt 5.2 with some components from Qt 5.1 is a bit confusing :/
[18:31] <ne0> hi
[18:31] <basketball> k1l_,  did you see what cpu i have
[18:32] <k1l_> basketball: yes, its not really a powerfull cpu. but should be enough for unity
[18:32] <basketball> k1l_,  my laptop is 6 years old
[18:33] <basketball> k1l_,  besides ram what else can speed up my laptop
[18:33] <k1l_> ssd
[18:33] <basketball> k1l_,  too expensive
[18:34] <bekks> basketball: 120GB SSD for less than 100$.
[18:34] <tfl> basketball: but affective
[18:34] <a7i3n> use a lighter window manager like i3, awesome, or lxde
[18:35] <loginix> i got 240 SSD for $100
[18:35] <basketball> bekks,  and tfl  wouldnt it be cheaper to just buy new laptop than spend on ram and ssd
[18:36] <tfl> basketball: 'lshw'
[18:36] <bekks> basketball: If you get a new, current, laptop with "enough" RAM and a SSD for 140$ - then go for it. Or upgrade your laptop instead.
[18:37] <basketball> bekks,  are there places that sell this stuff really cheap
[18:37] <tfl> basketball: whats your cpu?
[18:37] <basketball> i pasted before
[18:39] <chokesmaster> how come this is still not solved? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-openvpn/+bug/1294899
[18:39] <k1l_> chokesmaster: help the maintainer to fix the bug
[18:40] <tfl> basketball: i'd upgrade with your specs just cause a good replacement definatly would be much more
[18:40] <chokesmaster> I would like to but why it is not assigned? and why it worked in earlier daily build?
[18:41] <chokesmaster> is it possible to get an earlier package?
[18:41] <chokesmaster> I tried to find one  but to no avail
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> chokesmaster: can you manually bring up VPN in terminal?
[18:42] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone able to help troubleshoot or get an asus wireless card?  just installed ubuntu, it joins wifi, but i can't ping anything
[18:42] <chokesmaster> let me try
[18:42] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: what wifi chip?
[18:43] <lyntoo> anyone can help me about ubuntu 14.04 chromium or google chrome flash player settings, I have choose external windows for playing video and there was bug (no option bar to forward time movie) and I want to switch back to internal chromium flash player. Not found in google search, I already try to delete .config/chromium and .adobe with no results, same results like purge adobe and chromium. Seem like another config file that I missed   (don't want simple
[18:43] <lyntoo> awnser like delete and recreate user)
[18:43] <basketball> Sorry, the program "compiz" closed unexpectedly
[18:43] <basketball> Your computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.
[18:43] <timmmaaaayyy> realtek   maybe rtl8192ce?
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: sudo lshw -C network ,will tell you for sure.
[18:43] <bekks> lyntoo: chromium has no builtin flash player. chrome has.
[18:44] <timmmaaaayyy> yep, rtl8192ce
[18:44] <chokesmaster> ActionParsnip, I can connect with the terminal
[18:44] <ActionParsnip> chokesmaster: then you have a workaround for now. I suggest you add that to the bug
[18:45] <chokesmaster> openvpn --config the_vpn_file.ovpn
[18:45] <mrpokeylope> hello
[18:45] <chokesmaster> I still don't understant how this was not a show stopper bug...
[18:46] <basketball> tfl http://paste.ubuntu.com/7293509/
[18:46] <ActionParsnip> chokesmaster: most normal users dont use vpn
[18:46] <chokesmaster> this was working in a daily build about 3 weeks ago!
[18:46] <basketball> bekks,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7293509/
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: echo "options rtl8192ce ips=0 fwlps=0" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/wififix.conf > /dev/null
[18:47] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: reboot to test
[18:47] <timmmaaaayyy> roger...tryign
[18:48] <bekks> basketball: What am I suppossed to see in your pastebin? Why should I look at it?
[18:48] <basketball> cpu
[18:48] <bekks> basketball: "Full sentence please."
[18:48] <basketball> bekks,  that is the output of lshaw my cpu
[18:49] <bekks> basketball: And why do you show it to me? I didnt even ask for it.
[18:50] <Guest34784> hola
[18:51] <timmmaaaayyy> ActionParsnip: done.  same issues.  any commands you want to see now?
[18:51] <BlitzHere> Okay, can anyone help me set up a samba share? I'm not sure how it works but I want to be able to access my home folder from both my phone and tablet
[18:51] <lyntoo> bekks: thanks for the hints, I mess with 2 browser chromium and google chrome with pepper adobe. simple solution delete chromium (i feel like dumb pfhehe)
[18:51] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: delete the file you made. Are there any bugs reported?
[18:52] <BlitzHere> I set the floder to share and samba is installed, but what are the Server host, user name and password that I have to enter on my mobile device?
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> BlitzHere: install openssh-server and you can use an SFTP client, you can also access it securely over the web if you port forward TCP/22 on your router
[18:53] <timmmaaaayyy> i see alot of stuff about this wireless card being difficult....but the fact that its found and joins wifi without a problem makes me believe its fixed in newer versions
[18:53] <timmmaaaayyy> maybe not though
[18:53] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: can you ping yoir router's internal IP?
[18:53] <timmmaaaayyy> nope
[18:53] <timmmaaaayyy> i can only ping myself
[18:54] <timmmaaaayyy> wlan0 ip and localhost is all the pings
[18:54] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: wel yes, that will always work
[18:54] <timmmaaaayyy> well if it can't talk to the NCI you sometimes can't ping the adaptors IP....btu yea, that's extremely rare
[18:54] <timmmaaaayyy> *NIC
[18:55] <BlitzHere> ActionParsnip, Oaakaaay, I have no idea how to do that but let me install and mess about
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: try: sudo dhclient3 wlan0
[18:55] <ActionParsnip> BlitzHere: install a package? You have no idea how to install a package?
[18:55] <timmmaaaayyy> rtnetlink answers: file exists
[18:57] <timmmaaaayyy> i think i'm just gonna go buy a new wifi adaptor.  and i'll avoid this chipset
[18:57] <dw1> when i run deluser <user> <group> and remove a user from a group, why does it still show up when I run id
[18:57] <timmmaaaayyy> thanks for the help ActionParsnip.
[18:58] <dw1> i want to remove the group, but then i get a terminal error 'cant find name for group' .. if im not in the group anymore why would it look
[18:59] <mrpokeylope> can anyone help me with a cron/script problem?
[18:59] <leurian> tell us your problem
[18:59] <leuApodo> we are earing you
[18:59] <ncp> heheh
[19:00] <mrpokeylope> i have a script that tars a minecraft world folder and uploads it to dropbox every night. if there's a file that's older than 5 days in the folder it should delete the file and then remove it from dropbox as well
[19:00] <ActionParsnip> timmmaaaayyy: check what works and buy that
[19:00] <mrpokeylope> the problem is some times it works, some times it doesn't
[19:01] <mrpokeylope> I have it setup in my crontab with @daily and the user path
[19:01] <ncp> mrpokeylope, do you get any errors? perhaps mail to root (unless i forwards to your user)
[19:01] <ncp> *unless it's*
[19:01] <mrpokeylope> yeah, if you don't tell the output where to go isn't it supposed to mail it to the user?
[19:02] <mrpokeylope> or is the default root
[19:02] <mrpokeylope> for cron
[19:02] <ncp> check your /etc/aliases?
[19:02] <ActionParsnip> mrpokeylope: each user gets its own crontab
[19:03] <mrpokeylope> right, I thought it would mail me the output or errors of the operation if it rain into it, but I don't have any mail when I login
[19:03] <mrpokeylope> ran*
[19:04] <mrpokeylope> I can check root though
[19:04] <ncp> mrpokeylope, all my users forward to root, and just added my email to root.. (etc. root: my@email.com)
[19:05] <BlitzHere> ActionParsnip: No, I meant I had no idea about SSH
[19:05] <mattdorian> hello, i switched to Kubuntu 14.04 a few days ago because a big windows crash (4 different malwares, who killed nearly all my backups). Now I want to mount my external hdd, but Linux cant mount it. Whatever solutions I try, nothing happens. And Linux did not mount it automatically. I really need help!
[19:05] <BlitzHere> :P
[19:05] <BlitzHere> :D
[19:06] <BlitzHere> mattdorian: Format of the drive?
[19:06] <AaronDCampbell> I tried to update from 13.10 to 14.04, but there were a couple snags and then the updater crashed and told me to run "dpkg --configure -a" ... which gives me a bunch of errors: https://gist.github.com/aaroncampbell/1a3b66017b2e0c238ff5
[19:06] <ncp> mattdorian, what filesystem your backup using?
[19:07] <waseem_> I was doing # aptitude dist-upgrade on one my servers. Silly me I was not using screen. I was disconnected with the internet for a couple of minutes and afterwards the SSH session stopped responding. During upgrade I was being prompt to edit one of configuration files for a program(mysql) when I was disconnected. I had to kill the SSH session and start a new one. Now when I do # aptitude dist-upgrade I can
[19:07] <waseem_> not get lock on dpkg. It says it is used by another process. When I # ps aux | grep dpkg, I see two instances of dpkg in the list. I don't know how do I get into those processes. Should I kill those instead and let next dist-upgrade do its thing?
[19:09] <mattdorian> @ncp: my filesystem is ntfs. @ BlitzHere: I dont want to, because I want to rescue the data.
[19:09] <mattdorian> @ncp: its with two partitions, one of them is a truecrypt container
[19:11] <ncp> mattdorian, can you mount the two ntfs partitions?
[19:11] <ncp> or it that the problem?
[19:11] <waseem_> Okay so I killed the processes and did # dpkg --configure -a. Everything seems fine now. :)
[19:11] <Hakus1> Hello Guys, i'm using 14.04 and my compiz is using 48%~50% of cpu. Is anyone having this issue?
[19:11] <waseem_> Thanks for listening folks. It's 4/20 today, you know what to do. :D
[19:12] <k1l_> Hakus1: under 10% on here
[19:13] <iz> anyone use silc-client with ubuntu?
[19:13] <santa> .
[19:14] <iz> seems like the last time there was a package for it was lucid 10.04?
[19:14] <Hakus1> k1l_:  hmmm... thanks
[19:15] <BlitzHere> Ok, so, it turns out that ubuntu gave my router two different mac addresses and is connected simultaneously via ethernet cable and WiFi. Is this normal?
[19:16] <cunningham91> can anyone here help me with a problem im having after updating to 14.04?
[19:17] <iz> BlitzHere: each network interface has a mac address, so your router should have two different mac addresses, one for the wifi and another for the wired
[19:18] <BlitzHere> iz: p2p1=eth0?
[19:18] <iz> ?
[19:18] <cunningham91> after updating to 14.04 i can login but then after about 15 seconds my screen goes black
[19:19] <AaronDCampbell> I'm getting this: E: /var/cache/apt/archives/samba-libs_2%3a4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2_amd64.deb: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[19:22] <GJPMiningco> what is the command line to assign a IP to eth1 i want to assign it the IP of 192.168.1.1 with a netmask of 255.255.255.0
[19:22] <jacksparrow> hello
[19:22] <jacksparrow> can someone educate me on this
[19:22] <jacksparrow> can ubuntu server be run from USB entirely all the time
[19:23] <dannixon> jacksparrow: I don't see why not but it is a bad idea
[19:23] <jacksparrow> why would you say that
[19:23] <k1l_> jacksparrow: yes
[19:24] <jacksparrow> @dannixon
[19:25] <dannixon> jacksparrow: USB flash storage is more liable to faults than traditional spindle drives for repetative write cycles
[19:25] <jacksparrow> ok
[19:26] <jacksparrow> but could the USB just host the OS and then add and external drive
[19:27] <jacksparrow> @dannixon
[19:27] <dannixon> jacksparrow: You could, byt that is a better setup when your OS can be loaded entirely into memory, which I don't think Ubuntu Server can
[19:28] <ma5t3rw1tt> I have a quick question. I have found documentation about the reasoning why Hibernate is disabled by default. I have reanabled it but its showing only for Ubuntu and I am running Lubuntu, any help for this?
[19:28] <jacksparrow> @dannixon, which OS do u think would suit my setup
[19:29] <jacksparrow> my computer wont recognise the drive so i need a workaround
[19:30] <dannixon> jacksparrow: There are OSes designed for this use, but they tend to be very application specific (e.g. FreeNAS can be booted from almost anything and runs from memory under normal use)
[19:34] <ma5t3rw1tt> The same documentation on re enable Hibernate on Ubuntu is the same for Lubuntu correct?
[19:34] <jacksparrow> ok dannixon thanks a lot
[19:39] <ncp> has /etc/aliases been moved or added into other conf? can't find any aliases file in my /etc/
[19:41] <ncp> no MTA is installed on my 14.04, could this be why?
[19:42] <bekks> ncp: yes.
[19:42] <ncp> bekks, though so :) thanks
[19:46] <BlitzHere> ActionParsnip: Thanks, allowing anonymous logins worked. A bit insecure but should do the job for now, and my network is private anyway
[19:48] <k1l_> !away > Leo_Vertoff
[19:48] <MaxSan> when i login all i get is my desktop background. unity does not load. I have tried everything to fix this to success. any help would be much appreciated
[19:49] <emmetea> whats a good gui program with 14.04 to add users to a new installation
[19:49] <ActionParsnip> emmetea: its in system settings. adduser in terminal is useful to learn
[19:49] <Ayonae> Hello. I have lost the 'Show Desktop' icon on my Unity launcher. I have Saucy.
[19:50] <trinode> ok pulseaudio is seriously winding me up
[19:50] <ActionParsnip> Ayonae: could use the shortcut Shift + Win + D
[19:50] <trinode> it's just unloading a bluetooth module
[19:50] <trinode> loads it at startup, decides to unload it
[19:51] <trinode> have to manually load it and it sticks
[19:51] <trinode> :/
[19:51] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: Thanks, give a sec to boot up something with a windows key and try it.
[19:52] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: If it works I will look at keybinding an alternate key (I have a chromebook with coreboot and Ubuntu)
[19:52] <ActionParsnip> Trinode: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[19:52] <emmetea> ActionParsnip, i normally use that but i need to leave this computer for my mother-in-law to use and she is migrating from windows
[19:53] <ActionParsnip> emmetea: how many users is she going to be adding....
[19:53] <emmetea> i don't know, she has four other kids besides my wife plus grand children
[19:53] <trinode> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=16e40cb2046dcd7806d355e4911b85c7e0482f75
[19:54] <ActionParsnip> emmetea: i see. I believe its under the system settings cog in top right
[19:54] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: shift+win+d is not working: It pops up file search filter instead
[19:55] <emmetea> ActionParsnip, thank you kindly. i learned from dealing with my parents growing up that i hated doing tech support for them over the phone once i wasn't around so it is just easier being prepared for that kind of thing
[19:55] <Joufflu> just installed 14.04 but only a guest account showed up,, i remember creating a user with pass. tried going into term and using "sudo" but permission denied. :-/
[19:56] <trinode> ActionParsnip: the module module-bluetooth-discover is loaded at startup then a few seconds later unloaded, in order to get bluetooth a2dp devices to connect I need to pactl load-module module-bluetooth-discover
[19:56] <MaxSan> anyone?
[19:56] <MaxSan> ive tried everything im totally stumped
[19:56] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: I've just discovered settings->appearance->behaviour has a checkbox to restore the show desktop icon in the launcher
[19:57] <wafflejock_> emmetea: I find hangouts to be pretty good to help people remotely since you can screen share
[19:57] <MaxSan> when i ctrl + alt +f1 to get a terminal up it will let me do dconf reset as there is no X11 display loaded
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[19:57] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: Ah, with this icon re-enabled, the super+d works again!
[19:57] <ActionParsnip> Ayonae: sweet as :)
[19:57] <wafflejock_> MaxSan: you can try reinstalling Unity if your unable to repair it
[19:58] <emmetea> wafflejock_, the thing with google+ ?
[19:58] <wafflejock_> emmetea: yeah just need gmail accounts
[19:58] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: no need to pastebin. Its a single line of output
[19:58] <wafflejock_> emmetea: it's now really their IM and video chat all under the title of "Hangouts" but the video portion works cross platform and can screen share and video chat which I think is good
[19:58] <emmetea> wafflejock_, i haven't tried that yet, i'll have to look into it since my portable is a chromebook. thank you
[19:59] <MaxSan> waiting laptop switch back on needed abttery
[19:59] <Ayonae> emmetea: Also have chromebook but run ubuntu on it. However I have used google hangouts and it really works well.
[19:59] <ActionParsnip> Trinode: are there any bugs reported. My sound fixing ability is small
[20:00] <trinode> there are reports of that module not loading at all
[20:00] <Ayonae> Wow, other Chromebook users. How times have changed since 2012 when I got mine!
[20:01] <trinode> ActionParsnip: closest thing is this:- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/1274613
[20:01] <emmetea> Ayonae, yeah i first got mine at the end of 2012 because i'm not a fan of sharing my computers, but i thought it would be good since i was going back to college and people always seem to be asking to look something up or chek their email
[20:02] <MaxSan> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[20:02] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: have you tried a noncompositing session like xfce?
[20:03] <MaxSan> i got the unity source, changed a single like to remove whitelisting and recompiled it.
[20:03] <MaxSan> it worked fine for that session now after i turned laptop back on
[20:03] <MaxSan> nothing loads
[20:03] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: we cannot support self compiled apps, we can only support the packages from the repos
[20:05] <wafflejock_> true hard to test something we don't have in hand
[20:07] <emmetea> last question, does anyone happen to know if devede in 14.04 has fixed some of the issues people were complaining about with it in 12.04 ?
[20:08] <junka> like?
[20:08] <ActionParsnip> emmetea: never had an issue with it
[20:09] <reblues> never had an issue with devede
[20:09] <MaxSan> ActionParsnip: how do i reset it?
[20:09] <MaxSan> as in. how would i reset the standard version
[20:09] <MaxSan> so i can try the same thing
[20:09] <MaxSan> as im 98% sure it will have the same result lol
[20:09] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: reinstall the unity packages
[20:09] <oliver_> Does anyone know how i can fix RDP from (i think) not being able to bind to a port at startup?
[20:09] <k1l_> !away > g00fy|BNC
[20:10] <emmetea> junka: i was just reading the reviews and some people had mentioned its interaction with menecoder sometimes causing problems. i just didn't want to leave some software on that a new linux user might have issues with and be un able to figure out why
[20:10] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: sudo apt-get --reinstall install `dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep unity`
[20:11] <emmetea> though i am a bit confused as to why it conflicts with mplayer ?
[20:14] <emmetea> would anyone happen to know why when installing devede  it says that mplayer conflicts with it?
[20:14] <compdoc> oliver_, what rdp did you install?
[20:14] <MaxSan> it works again now i still have the original problem of no new tray icons allowed to be added
[20:14] <Mrokii> Hello. I can't get the 14.04 upgrade to work, because the "could not calculate the upgrade"-error, which is mentioned here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/449546/ubuntu-13-10-to-14-04-lts-does-not-upgrade-keeps-showing-error#comment590353_449546 , however the solution given there didn't work for me.
[20:14] <lagbox> in 14.10 is swappiness set like high or something
[20:14] <lagbox> 14.04
[20:14] <oliver_> Xrdp, it was working but i did something and it keeps stopping
[20:14] <Ayonae> Mrokii: Here's a silly question, but have you checked your disk space?
[20:15] <xangua> lagbox: swappiness by default is 60
[20:15] <lagbox> ah
[20:15] <lagbox> i must have it turned down in the past
[20:15] <bekks> lagbox: the default of swappiness is set to 60 for years now.
[20:15] <lagbox> never have i had so much swap use
[20:15] <Mrokii> Ayonae: 7.9 GB are free
[20:16] <MaxSan> ActionParsnip: is there any way around that without me recompiling unity then ?
[20:16] <circ-user-CAYfZ> a quick question about 14.04 - using nvidia proprietary drivers, it takes ages to launch lightdm, and then once it loads, it disappears for 2 seconds until finally coming back and then I can log in. anyone experience something similar?
[20:16] <lagbox> i find my boot time is longer than before  circ
[20:16] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: you can set it lower in /etc/sysctl.conf
[20:17] <ActionParsnip> MaxSan: around what? If you reinstall the packages it will put back the official binaries
[20:18] <emmetea> thank you everyone for your help
[20:21] <Ayonae> One other question: How do I avoid a system lock up when a network drive I have mounted fails on a LAN?
[20:21] <Lukas1321> does anyone know any differences between ubuntu and ubuntukylin?
[20:21] <k1l_> Lukas1321: its the chinese ubuntu
[20:22] <Ayonae> When I mount a network drive from that server, and the server crashes, my machine locks up. IO error etc.
[20:22] <Lukas1321> k1l_, i'm asking about feature differences and all that
[20:23] <k1l_> Lukas1321: see second answer: http://askubuntu.com/questions/420774/what-is-the-difference-between-ubuntu-kylin-and-ubuntu-with-default-language-chi
[20:23] <penguinman> Ayonae: you could check out this link http://www.tldp.org/LDP/nag/node142.html. perhaps setting a timeout in fstab might solve that.
[20:23] <trinode> is there a way to get offered to over-write all config files that have changed?
[20:23] <trinode> (back to original versions)
[20:24] <Ayonae> penguinman: thank you
[20:24] <Sir_Leto> Is it possible to install over the linux distro I'm currently using without totally effing up my bootloader?
[20:24] <Sir_Leto> I'm dual booting right now
[20:25] <hasek79> i am running 13.10 and i wanted to get a screensaver, should i get xscreensaver
[20:25] <penguinman> Sir_Leto: what do you mean by messing up your bootloader? Ubuntu is really good at detecting dual boot situations
[20:25] <Lukas1321> k1l_, the thing i'm worried about is whether it has chinese gov't spyware
[20:26] <Sir_Leto> Usually when I install something it'll leave behind the boot options for the previously installed OS
[20:26] <Ayonae> penguinman: Thank you for this. I see that I have to soft-mount the drive.
[20:26] <jayterson> s
[20:26] <amtkhdkr> https://askubuntu.com/questions/450097/problem-with-optirun-bumblebee hello can anyone please take a look at this? thanks :)
[20:27] <Ayonae> Lukas1321: You're welcome to look at the code. It's the only way to be sure. It seems these days you get to choose chinese, american or british govt spyware in your closed source software :-)
[20:27] <k1l_> Lukas1321: well it doesnt have official chinese government spying software. of course.
[20:28] <penguinman> personally I'd rather have chinese spyware than American spyware considering the chinese gov't can't arrest me for being a dissident :P
[20:29] <amtkhdkr> been facing this problem for a long time, would appreciate any sort of help!
[20:30] <Ayonae> penguinman: i see this hard/soft mount is for nfs only?
[20:30] <penguinman> yes. Is your network drive not NFS?
[20:31] <Ayonae> penguinman: No we use CIFS because no-one here understand NFS and not all our machines are *nix
[20:32] <Ayonae> penguinman: I should have said that it was CIFS. I am sorry.
[20:33] <ActionParsnip> Ayonae: id use SFTP personally. Works over WAN and by default will mount the user's home you connect with
[20:33] <penguinman> Ayonae: hmm, not really familiar with CIFS.
[20:33] <rebelCoder> 14.04 Is great!
[20:33] <Ayonae> penguinman: In an ideal world, yea, we'd also have a server that didn't do unscheduled reboots :-)
[20:33] <penguinman> ms really needs to start supporting NFS...ugh
[20:34] <penguinman> especially considering Macs use it too.
[20:34] <Leo_Verto> okay, reconfigured znc to not use awaynick on freenode
[20:34] <xRanieriWolf> I think I just found my home.
[20:35] <xRanieriWolf> What's up my friends, I'm currently running Windows XP and a complete noob at programming/electronics/etc.
[20:36] <penguinman> ewwwww....XP.....
[20:36] <Ayonae> it stands for "eXtra Powerful". it's the best windows.
[20:36] <Spidernet> xp is really the best
[20:36] <penguinman> XP is a security hole with a GUI...
[20:36] <bekks> And really end of life.
[20:38] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: It seems you;re right. SFTP looks to be able to handle a disconnect without locking the client. But what we do run and what we should run ... *sigh* Do you know of anyway to sort this under CIFS?
[20:40] <xRanieriWolf> I tried installing Ubuntu LTS (forget the version name, possible 10.4?) and when I run it, It can't install the broadcom wi-fi adapters?
[20:40] <a7i3n>  /quit
[20:40] <a7i3n> exit
[20:40] <Ayonae> xRanieriWolf: 10.04 is very old. the version number is the year and month of release (2010 april). hardware support in a newer LTS will be much improved.
[20:40] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: 14.04 should work with broadcom just fine. my laptop has that and it works out of the box.
[20:41] <xRanieriWolf> Okay. How would I install the broadcom drivers on my windows partition, and transfer it over to my Ubuntu partition?
[20:41] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: even handles the keyboard on/off switch
[20:41] <Ayonae> xRanieriWolf: do you have a flash drive?
[20:42] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: it's supported in the newer kernels without 3rd party drivers
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> Ayonae: not sure. I dont use CIFS.
[20:42] <bekks> xRanieriWolf: Thats nit going to work that way.
[20:42] <xRanieriWolf> Ahh, okay, I will use a flash drive.
[20:42] <Ayonae> penguinman: 10.04 is EOL I think. You were talking about security holes with a GUI? :-)
[20:42] <xRanieriWolf> And what are most driver extensions?
[20:42] <penguinman> Ayonae: yeah, 10.04 is OLD.
[20:42] <xRanieriWolf> .???
[20:43] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: unix filesystems don't really work that way.
[20:43] <xRanieriWolf> :O
[20:43] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: file extensions don't really mean much in Linux.
[20:43] <holstein> xRanieriWolf: you can use synaptic to generate download scripts for what you need.. you'll get "wget" commands to download the needed packages..
[20:43] <bekks> Even in Windows they do mean nothing.
[20:44] <SexMachine> When is 14.04 coming to AWS?
[20:44] <Ayonae> ActionParsnip: It's oK. Thanks for your help though. It is much appreciated.
[20:44] <bekks> SexMachine: When Amazon deploys it.
[20:44] <xRanieriWolf> Penguinman, can you recommend a good site/book to learn these basic questions without having to ask people that are probably gonna get annoyed with all the basic questions?
[20:44] <SexMachine> bekks: What's wrong with Amazon?
[20:44] <holstein> SexMachine: not sure what AWS is, but ask AWS when they plan on implementing
[20:44] <bekks> SexMachine: Ask them.
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> xRanieriWolf: i suggest a clean install of Trusty.
[20:44] <xRanieriWolf> Trusty?
[20:44] <xRanieriWolf> Let me google it
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> xRanieriWolf: ubuntu 14.04
[20:44] <bekks> !trusty | xRanieriWolf
[20:44] <holstein> !14.04
[20:44] <penguinman> xRanieriWolf: the latest version. 14.04
[20:45] <SexMachine> holstein: i think we should know AWS better by now
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> xRanieriWolf: released this week
[20:45] <xRanieriWolf> :O
[20:45] <xRanieriWolf> THANKS A LOT
[20:45] <holstein> SexMachine: ? i dont know what AWS is, but nothinb about 14.04 is preventing AWS from implementing 14.04.. its out, and freely available
[20:46] <SexMachine> shame on holstein
[20:46] <penguinman> holstein: AWS is Amazon's cloud infrastructure. Basically Amazon VPN.
[20:46] <arlen> amazon vps*
[20:46] <penguinman> errr, VPS I meant
[20:46] <SexMachine> just a google away
[20:46] <novasonic> hi
[20:47] <penguinman> sorry, have VPN on the mind. just started running a new one.
[20:47] <novasonic> is there anyway to track dependencies of x-window-system?
[20:47] <holstein> SexMachine:  the facts above are true, regardless of what, or if i know what AWS is..
[20:47] <holstein> SexMachine: ask them for it..
[20:47] <Ayonae> I can't imagine what percentage of the world's end user websites are on AWS. Must be over 20.
[20:48] <SexMachine> holstein: i understand. Mr. bekks gave me an answer for that.
[20:48] <SexMachine> shame on holstein
[20:48] <OSaddict> How do you view PMs on Xchat?
[20:48] <novasonic> q
[20:49] <bekks> SexMachine: Oh stop that now, please. I have no clue about AWS - but only can answer your questions about their technical infrastructure.
[20:49] <k1l_> SexMachine: please stop that attitude immediatly. no need to go ad hominem
[20:49] <Ayonae> OSaddict: They should each have a tab
[20:49] <hamadrilene> salut tout le monde
[20:49] <k1l_> !fr | hamadrilene
[20:49] <OSaddict> Ayonae: Oh, I see. Thanks.
[20:49] <SexMachine> it's sunday. i'm just joking...
[20:49] <SexMachine> shame on me
[20:49] <hamadrilene> thanks
[20:53] <lagbox> swappines=10 definatley helped a bit
[20:53] <lagbox> i wonder if setting it to 0 would be better
[20:55] <jm123> just ran mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc1 for some reason pressed ctrl c
[20:55] <jm123> now my sd card isn't showing up in gparted when trying to reformat
[20:55] <jm123> did i just kill this card for good?
[20:56] <OSaddict> jm123: Try taking it out and putting it back in, then run Gparted.
[20:57] <jm123> OSaddict: did this, still notthing
[20:57] <OSaddict> I don't think you can make a card permanently unusable by corrupting its data. You can always recreate the partition table and reformat.
[20:57] <lagbox> now if i could just get chromium UI to stop looking like it is on a touchscreen with huge spacing
[20:58] <jm123> OSaddict: I hope so too
[20:58] <OSaddict> jm123: What /dev stuff do you see in the Gparted pull-down?
[20:58] <junka> jm123, try blkid on a terminal
[20:59] <junka> then reformat based on /dev/sdX of your card
[20:59] <jm123> here is the output of blkid
[21:00] <jm123> one sec, putting into pastebin
[21:00] <jm123> http://pastebin.com/5fTApStT
[21:01] <junka> you have other removable devices connected?
[21:01] <OSaddict> jm123: Could /dev/sdb possibly be your SD card?
[21:01] <jm123> that's an external hd
[21:02] <junka> what about sda?
[21:02] <xubuntu> hi
[21:03] <jm123> sda is my main hdd i think
[21:04] <OSaddict> Because jm123 canceled the formatting, there will be no usable partition for that device. It won't show up on blkid.
[21:04] <jm123> sda1 (/boot/efi) and sda2 (/)
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: chromium spacing isnt too huge, or do you mean the OS as a whole?
[21:04] <OSaddict> jm123: Does /dev/sdc show up in gparted?
[21:05] <jm123> OSaddict: no id doesn't
[21:05] <lagbox> ActionParsnip, my address bar and tab font is to large ... and the addressbar dropdown takes up the whoel top of the screen with white bars on the side
[21:05] <lagbox> like it was meant to be on a touch screen
[21:06] <OSaddict> jm123: Try rebooting. That helped me with device problems before.
[21:06] <lagbox> not how chromium looked when i was on 13.10 ... but this might be a weird issue with the Font
[21:06] <ActionParsnip> Lagbox: not seen that and I use Chrome browser...
[21:06] <lagbox> yea i know
[21:06] <lagbox> you probably have the expected behavior
[21:06] <jm123> OSaddict: haven't done that yet, hopefully this is the fix
[21:06] <jm123> OSaddict: thanks
[21:07] <lagbox> pretty much this has been an issue for over 2 years and they haven't fixed it
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Lagbox: is this in Ubuntu?
[21:07] <lagbox> yes
[21:07] <OSaddict> jm123: Can you see it now in gparted?
[21:07] <lagbox> ubuntu 14.04 64   ... new install ... old home
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> Lagbox: strange indeed.
[21:07] <lagbox> yes ... very very very annoying
[21:07] <igoryonya_> hello, I have an asus k52d. Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS, after one of the updates the builtin monitor stopped getting backlight as soon as a graphical login screen is loaded and also, the desktop environment. I presume, it's something to do with an x server. The screen has backlight all the way from BIOS, grub, loading the os, up until the graphical login screen appears. What to do?
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: tried renaming the chrome config folder then relaunching the browser to get default setings
[21:08] <lagbox> ActionParsnip, if i load up a guest session ... it is the same
[21:08] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: gotcha
[21:08] <RudyValencia> Hi, what happened to Likewise Open in Ubuntu 14.04?
[21:08] <lagbox> pretty much chrome should be using my gtk font and it isn't or can't and it seems like it is locking some type of default font-size and scaling
[21:09] <bekks> RudyValencia: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LikewiseOpen
[21:09] <RudyValencia> oh
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> !info likewise-open trusty
[21:09] <Term1nal> So I'm playing with ubuntu MAAS, waiting on the import boot images to finish, how big exactly -are- the boot images? I'm like 6 gigs in and it's still not done yet.
[21:09] <RudyValencia> so it's PBIS Open now, OK
[21:10] <Term1nal> There's a message that if it takes longer than expected, to check the logs, but I don't know -which- logs to check to see if it's not communicating with the maas api
[21:13] <OSaddict> What exactly does the linux-firmware package do?
[21:13] <k1l_> OSaddict: installs prop. firmware for some stuff
[21:14] <k1l_> !info linux-firmware
[21:14] <OSaddict> Installs firmware? You mean it overwrites firmware on  my cards and BIOS?
[21:15] <penguinman> OSaddict: no, it's just proprietary firmware compiled intot he kernel
[21:15] <jm123> OSaddict: no success with the reboot
[21:16] <k1l_> OSaddict: not all drivers are in the kernel. so that package is needed for some hardware
[21:17] <k1l_> !away > chorrell-away
[21:17] <RudyValencia> bekks: thanks, I installed PBIS Open and I can access my domain now
[21:18] <Term1nal> Any idea how large the ubuntu pxe-boot-images for MAAS are exactly?
[21:18] <OSaddict> OK I see.
[21:19] <jhutchins> OSaddict: Firmware is the flexible code that manufacturers use to allow for things like diffrent frequency ranges for WIFI in different countries.  It's not quite firmware in the traditional sense that it's semi-permanently loaded on the hardware, rather it's loaded each time the device is enabled - usually the driver loads the firmware when it's loaded.
[21:19] <bekks> RudyValencia: What is that and what is it for?
[21:19] <jhutchins> OSaddict: Mostly seen on wifi, a few ethernet cards, and specialty hardware.  Winmodems were probably the first things that used it in it's current sense.
[21:20] <RudyValencia> PowerBroker Identity Services Open Edition, it's the new name for Likewise Open (Windows Domain authentication package)
[21:20] <bekks> RudyValencia: thats the first sentence of the article. And it absolutely doesnt answer my questions :)
[21:21] <bekks> RudyValencia: Why do I need a "Windows Domain authentication package" if I can just use LDAP/AD?
[21:22] <igoryonya_> I have a backlight on the notebook from BIOS until the grapical login screen, then I have to use a flashlight to see what's on the screen. How to fix it?
[21:23] <Ayonae> igoryonya_: Try nomodeset, it does fix odd backlight problems
[21:23] <binBlob> Someone having experienc here with perf? Mine cand find the vmlinux and the sources. How to fix this ?
[21:24] <Ayonae> igoryonya_: If that doesnt work, look at ACPI
[21:26] <jhutchins> binBlob: perf?
[21:27] <binBlob> jhutchins: yes look at this wonderfully empty wiki page about it https://perf.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Main_Page
[21:30] <linxeh> hi - how do I enable MATE (the version that ships with 14.04)? I've installed standard x86_64 desktop
[21:31] <razorbuzz> Good afternoon / Happy Easter. I just updated to 14.04, had a few issues, so ended up doing a "reinstall" from the install media. Home folders were kept, but users were deleted. Do I just recreate the same user, rename the userfolder, and update permissions?
[21:31] <razorbuzz> And followup: One of the users had an encrypted Home. I know how to access them as another user, so I can just move them into the recreated user, but is there a way to maintain the encryption?
[21:32] <igoryonya_> Ayonae, where do I find nomodeset?
[21:32] <john123> Hello, does anyone know if you can "startx" inside a chrooted environment? I've been trying to boot my system but my screen just goes black. When I boot from a USB and chroot into my system, startx says there is no displayed available, trying to figure out where my problem lies. Using GummiBoot on UEFI
[21:33] <razorbuzz> john123: Install xnest, that'll allow you to startx inside a chroot by creating a seconding "display" for the new x session
[21:33] <xangua> razorbuzz: for the encrypted home folder you just have to create the same user and password, you could do also with the others
[21:33] <john123> razorbuzz, thank you will try that out
[21:33] <razorbuzz> xangua: I thought of doing that, assumed it'd be too easy of a solution. uid's being different and all.  I'll give it a go though, thank you.
[21:33] <ActionParsnip> linxeh: mate doesnt ship with 14.04
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> linxeh: there is cinammon in the official repos
[21:34] <ActionParsnip> !find mate
[21:34] <junka> !find mate-desktop
[21:34] <junka> mate is the repos
[21:35] <junka> on*
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> !info mate-desktop
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> So it is
[21:35] <Ayonae> igoryonya_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132
[21:35] <linxeh> ok - I'll google up; I battled with the unity madness before, and I've just clean reinstalled. I just want stuff to work normally :/
[21:35] <k1l_> ActionParsnip: cinnamon was kicked out of ubuntu and debian recently. but mate was taken in
[21:35] <ActionParsnip> Linxeh: install the package, log off then log into the new session in your login screen
[21:35] <linxeh> ActionParsnip: yeah. done that. still end up with unity
[21:36] <linxeh> clearly I'm doing something wrong :)
[21:36] <ActionParsnip> linxeh: did you change the session in the dm?
[21:36] <junka> yes you need to change DE
[21:37] <ActionParsnip> linxeh: if you just log off then log on and dont change anything then obviosly you will log back in to Unity session. Your system isnt psychic
[21:38] <Sky-linux> Do I have free shell?
[21:38] <k1l_> Sky-linux: this is the ubuntu support channe
[21:38] <ActionParsnip> Sky-linux: how do you mean?
[21:38] <Sky-linux> shell account
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Sky-linux: yes when you open a terminal you are using your account in the shell
[21:40] <Sky-linux> online ActionParsnip
[21:40] <k1l_> Sky-linux: can you please rephrase your ubuntu support question?
[21:41] <ActionParsnip> Sky-linux: i dont follow you. Will you please explain the issue fully
[21:41] <Sky-linux> ok
[21:42] <pseudonymous> Hey. I can't administer cups via the web interface.. I've added "Allow all" to every <Location> block in /etc/cups/cupsd.conf AND ensured my user is in lpadmin (AND rebooted).. what to do
[21:43] <ActionParsnip> pseudonymous: the cups web ui by default is accessible by your user. What happens when you acces http://localhost:631
[21:44] <majod> can someone explain if TRIM is enabled on all SSDs in trusty, or only on certain brands? i've read somewhere it's supported only on samsungs and intel
[21:44] <pseudonymous> actionparsnip: no it's actually accessible by default - and so I get the web interface (as I'd expect) from visiting that url. I just can't do any administrative actions
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Majod: yes its enabled (providing the device supports it)
[21:44] <bekks> majod: It is supported on all SSD. If in doubt, manually enable it.
[21:45] <Spidernet> ActionParsnip: it works..... for administrative actions set a password for the root account and use it
[21:45] <majod> ActionParsnip: bekks thank you both
[21:45] <pseudonymous> Spidernet: not for me, tried that.. Initially trying ot login as root resulted in the login box reappearing after a while (timed out, sort of) - not it's returned IMMEDIATELY..
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Spidernet: wont running the web browser using gksudo do the same?
[21:46] <jayterson> quit
[21:46] <pseudonymous> Spidernet: not=>now --- as in, setting a root password results in the login attempt being immediately rejected
[21:46] <amlon> how can I view location data of an mp4 video in ubuntu?
[21:46] <trism> ActionParsnip: linxeh parts of mate are there but not enough to be useful, packaging in debian is still ongoing http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/status:debian likely to need at least mate-session-manager which only just recently landed in unstable
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> amlon: mplayer may be able to tell you
[21:47] <mrtAkdeniz> guys
[21:47] <mrtAkdeniz> Whenever I want to install VMware Workstation
[21:47] <mrtAkdeniz> on the half of the installation process, it goes Uninstall process :S
[21:47] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: is this relevant http://askubuntu.com/questions/449310/vmware-workstation-10-0-1-install-wont-work-14-04
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[21:48] <Spidernet> pseudonymous: first set root password and reboot ur machine.. login in with ::other accounts: it will ask u for the username and password.. it will pop up again for the password to be reentered, enter it and u will be logged in.. i use it and it works grt
[21:48] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[21:48] <mrtAkdeniz> holstein, I checked, I move install bundle's path
[21:48] <mrtAkdeniz> and wanted to install as su
[21:48] <mrtAkdeniz> still same.. :(
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: su isnt a user....
[21:49] <john123> razorbuzz, what should i be expecting from Xnest? I've ran 'Xnest :1 -ac &' and its running in the background, my DISPLAY is set to ':1', running for example firefox does not complain that there is no display to be shown, but nothing appears, also when typing xterm nothing pops up. Am I missing a step?
[21:49] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: sudo
[21:49] <pseudonymous> Spidernet: I don't want to log into the desktop as root, I just want to administer my printers via the cups web interface
[21:49] <mrtAkdeniz> I get privileges by sudo su
[21:49] <mrtAkdeniz> and Did chmod +x for bundle
[21:49] <pseudonymous> I can't understand why Ubuntu even bothers deliberately b0rking the web interface.. It's by far the best means of administering cups >_<
[21:49] <k1l_> mrtAkdeniz: that is a wrong command. see man sudo.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: sonas root, not as su
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> So as*
[21:50] <mrtAkdeniz> what I need to do?
[21:50] <john123> razorbuzz, I'm thinking its because I still dont have X running... as startx says no screens are found
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: run the installernprefixed with sudo
[21:50] <razorbuzz> john123:  [startx -display :1]  inside the chroot environment.
[21:50] <razorbuzz> if you set the display to :1, as you stated
[21:50] <Spidernet> pseudonymous: u can forget about cups and install system-config-printer or otherwise use ur username and password for the cups administration
[21:50] <mrtAkdeniz> you mean "sudo VMwa..." ? ActionParsnip
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: yes but with ./VMware..
[21:51] <pseudonymous> Spidernet: i have that already, but the UI frankly sucks and it's missing a host of options :( That's why I'm keen to get the web interface working
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: so the interpretter uses pwd
[21:51] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, I did as u said, now on the configrations of Installation
[21:51] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: if you are not running the script as root, try that
[21:52] <mrtAkdeniz> it gives "root" not my username
[21:52] <mrtAkdeniz> Do I need to add my username here?
[21:52] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: maybe referencing http://fazlearefin.blogspot.ca/2014/03/vmware-workstation-10-not-working-on.html would help
[21:52] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: no
[21:52] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: sudo command.. or sudo -i will give you a "root shell"
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: become your user and use sudo. This is how Ubuntu is intended to be used
[21:52] <rauch_> Anyone experience mouse/keyboard freezing? Have to switch to another TTY and back to get it working again
[21:52] <mrtAkdeniz> holstein, that guide for after Install
[21:53] <mrtAkdeniz> I have problem with installation process..
[21:53] <Spidernet> pseudonymous: so what are you seeking for now
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: is there no possibility to use virtualbox?
[21:53] <razorbuzz> @john123:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot  about 2/3rds of the way down the page (or ctrl+f xnest)
[21:53] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, if that won't work, I will go for VirtualBox :\
[21:53] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: i would either try a repo appciation such as virtualbox, or https://www.vmware.com/support/contacts for vmware support fo the product they provide
[21:53] <pseudonymous> spidernet: in a nutshell, full administrative access via the web
[21:54] <majod> is there any way i can check if ati DPM is working? or is it even available in trusty?
[21:54] <Kuwanger> I'm not quite sure if it's a bug or something else, but some times ctrl+c/ctrl+z in bash in screen doesn't seem to work.  Is there a reason for that?
[21:54] <Spidernet> pseudonymous: have u check the groups you belong to? probably you are not part of the sudo group
[21:54] <jhutchins> majod: DPM?
[21:55] <mrtAkdeniz> holstein, As I said, I will try if It won't work :\ but I don't want virtualbox really, it feels like "old and slow"
[21:55] <majod> jhutchins: dynamic power management
[21:55] <wye> Hey, installed the new xubuntu a few days ago. I'm getting dropped to an initramfs screen, I ran ubuntu boot repair but it didn't do anything. Here's the log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7294702/
[21:55] <holstein> mrtAkdeniz: its just a supported, in repo option..
[21:55] <n-iCe> wye: #xubuntu
[21:55] <pseudonymous> spidernet: the ubuntu docs says I should just need to be part of 'lpadmin' (which isn't true, it seems) - But I'm a member of: adm,cdrom,sudo,dip_plugdev,lpadmin,sambashare
[21:55] <mrtAkdeniz> holstein, I know :\
[21:55] <rymate1234> hey, how come the scrolling behaviour with a touchpad isnt consistant? for example, in system monitor the scrolling is precise, whereas in firefox it just seems to emulate a scroll wheel
[21:56] <mrtAkdeniz> anyway holstein , Is there a log file for that installation? Maybe It will help
[21:56] <Spidernet> pseudonym: ok the groups are even enough... does the gui allow you to add printers and manage the jobs with respect to the classes?
[21:57] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, I used "sudo ./VM.." still same.. It went to "uninstall" on the half of the Installation process
[21:57] <jake> can someone help me with ibus real quick, I am having issues on xubuntu 14.04
[21:57] <rauch_> Anyone experience mouse/keyboard freezing? Have to switch to another TTY and back to get it working again
[21:58] <wye> n-iCe: I figured my problem was beyond the desktop flavor so I posted here.
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> rauch_: once its working again, run: dmesg | tail ,see whats going on
[21:58] <mrtAkdeniz> oh holstein ActionParsnip, It gave me an error on terminal
[21:58] <mrtAkdeniz> it says : File "/usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.1.0/python/lib/sqlite3/dbapi2.py", line 0
[21:58] <mrtAkdeniz> SyntaxError: ('unknown encoding: ISO-8859-1', ('/usr/lib/vmware-installer/2.1.0/python/lib/sqlite3/dbapi2.py', 0, 0, None))
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: sounds like a bug
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> rauch_: are the devices plugged into USB3 ports?
[21:59] <mrtAkdeniz> Will something change If I install sqlite3 manually?
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: worth a punt
[22:00] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, worth a punt? I'm not English, I dunno phrases :\
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: yes, give it a go (basically)
[22:00] <mrtAkdeniz> oh ok ^^
[22:01] <Daghdha> I just tried upgrading but it warned me my gfx is not supported and i might end up with a realy slow system :( So i cancelled it. *snif*
[22:01] <Daghdha> But i did onderstand right that in future more chipsets will be supported and i may have one that will then be supported?
[22:01] <mrtAkdeniz> Someone using AMD Radeon HD 7670M ?
[22:01] <annikkawoods> I got origin downloaded through playonlinux but every time I try to open it the error that Wine crashed comes up. I'm a novice with this and don't know what to do now. I'm not really finding answers in the forums.
[22:01] <jakedj93> I cannot switch to other inputs using ibus, when I press add, it flashes for a second then goes away
[22:02] <jakedj93> anyone know how I might fix
[22:03] <lagbox> anyone use swappiness 0 ?
[22:03] <kevin> heeeey. something up with ubuntus package repository site? Could not connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com:80 (108.59.10.97). - connect (111: Connection refused)
[22:03] <kevin> when trying to do an apt-get
[22:03] <k1l_> lagbox: i dont use swap at all
[22:04] <lagbox> as in you don't use a swap partition ?
[22:04] <pvl1> lagbox: im currently not using any swap
[22:04] <k1l_> lagbox: yes. with enough ram and no hibernation i am fine
[22:04] <pvl1> kevin: try changing servers
[22:05] <lagbox> i have 6gb never had an issue with running out of memory ... maybe ill set swapiness 0
[22:05] <minimec> Daghdha: COuld you be more specific? So you have 13.10 running, but Ubuntu warns you that your GPU will not be supported anymore? Could it be that supported in the restricted driver ended, and that the card will now (only) be supported by the opensource driver?
[22:05] <ortix> hi guys, i can't seem to get vnc or xrdp to work on my ubuntu 14.04 machine
[22:05] <ortix> i keep getting a gray screen no matter what I do
[22:05] <ortix> i have pretty much tried every solution i could fin
[22:05] <ortix> d
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Ortix: what are you wanting to do on the remote PC when you get it working?
[22:06] <ortix> i need to access the router to which its connected
[22:07] <crackoscl> :\
[22:07] <ortix> ActionParsnip: i need to do some configuring inside a browser
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Ortix: could use an SSH tunnel, set your browser to go down the tunnel then access the router's web page.
[22:07] <ActionParsnip> Ortix: a bit sleeker
[22:08] <ortix> hmm sounds like a solid plan
[22:08] <ortix> ActionParsnip: just google ssh tunnel windows 8 i assume?
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> ortix: you set thentunnel up using putty, then set the http proxy in your web browser to localhost port whatever
[22:09] <mrtAkdeniz> ActionParsnip, holstein keep in mind guys, I tried "sudo LANG=en ./VM.." and now It works
[22:10] <trism> jakedj93: which ubuntu version? in recent versions you configure your input methods in System Settings/Text Entry
[22:10] <ActionParsnip> mrtAkdeniz: nice
[22:10] <mrtAkdeniz> I am using Turkish version of ubuntu, I think problem was because of Unicode
[22:10] <mrtAkdeniz> anyway, thanks for helps :) have a good day Sir
[22:11] <jakedj93> Xubuntu 14.04
[22:11] <trism> jakedj93: hmm not sure how it is configured on xubuntu
[22:11] <jakedj93> I don't see this "Text Entry" anywhere, I can get to an Ibus preferences page
[22:11] <jakedj93> that seems to list everything I have installed just fine
[22:12] <ortix> ActionParsnip: i;m in thanks
[22:12] <jakedj93> when I click add it adds for for a millisecond then takes it off
[22:12] <Daghdha> minimec; the setup said it detected (i am paraphrazing)  that i have a Graphics chipset that's not supported and as a result upgrading to 14.04 (From 12.04) might result in a slow, almost unusable, desktop.
[22:12] <jakedj93> I had to install ibus on synaptic, so I am not sure if I am missing something
[22:12] <Daghdha> minimec; then the text said they advice not to upgrade and the NO option was highlighted
[22:13] <k1l_> Daghdha: the 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade will be opened on 24th july
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> Ortix: people use vnc for all sorts of stupid stuff instead of actually thinking then realising their is a better, quicker and sleeker solution.
[22:13] <Daghdha> I used some commandline feature
[22:13] <annikkawoods> Okay, got Origin up and running, but now I need to change the resolution because I didn't change it when I installed it. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall?
[22:13] <Daghdha> That starts the update.
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> ortix: so i alwaysnask the purpose of the connection. I can usually give a better solution
[22:15] <Ayonae> annikkawoods: Is this EA Origin?
[22:15] <annikkawoods> Ayonae: Yes it is
[22:15] <SKELETR0N> is there a way to upgrade to 14.04 from term?
[22:15] <minimec> Daghdha: Could you give us the output of lspci of that machine. Paste it on paste.ubuntu.com and give us the link. I guess your card is still supported. But indeed, if you are on 12.04, you could stay on that distribution and wait for better support for your card in the opensource driver.
[22:15] <SKELETR0N> i have a VPS server without xwin
[22:15] <Spidernet> SKELETON; do-release-upgrade
[22:16] <rww> SKELETR0N: to 14.04 from what?
[22:16] <pseudonymous> Ok this is past the point of being ridiculous
[22:16] <SKELETR0N> 12.04
[22:16] <Daghdha> minimec http://pastebin.com/48DnHK77
[22:17] <pseudonymous> Does *anyone* have a working /etc/cups/cupsd.conf where they can log in an add a printer via the web interface ?
[22:17] <rww> SKELETR0N: 12.04 to 14.04 upgrade offering is disabled until 14.04.1 to give the repositories time to settle down and get stability fixes. You can override that with sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[22:17] <Daghdha> hmm radeon 2100, i coulda swore it had intell
[22:17] <k1l_> SKELET0R: that update to 14.04 will be opened on 24th july. when 14.04 will become 14.04.1
[22:18] <SKELETR0N> rww: thanks!
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> SKELET0R: you can force the upgrade but i suggest you wait for the first point release
[22:18] <ActionParsnip> SKELET0R: is Precise working for you?
[22:19] <SKELETR0N> ActionParsnip: I dont know if precise is working, im using digitalocean and it let me just upgrade the kernel to 14.04 but i want the dependencies upgraded to because yeoman is being quirky
[22:20] <waltercool> A little question, I want to install Ubuntu on a specific btrfs subvolume, can I do it using a livecd?
[22:21] <trism> jakedj93: there is an ibus bug referenced in the xubuntu 14.04 release notes, could be related to why it isn't working for you: bug 1284635
[22:21] <waltercool> I know, Ubuntu usually uses @ for root, but I have a custom btrfs subvolumes for my Linux distros and other partitions
[22:21] <trism> jakedj93: it is the reason ibus wasn't installed by default for you
[22:21] <lagbox> im hoping all this latency is from swappiness
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> waltercool: yes, use the 'something else' option and set the partition as /
[22:22] <darkangel> curious* When u have a Ubuntu development branch version, could Ubuntu developers, do Development in ur computer?
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: are you using a non compoziting window manager?
[22:22] <lagbox> no
[22:23] <lagbox> compiz
[22:23] <lagbox> well unity compiz
[22:23] <waltercool> ActionParsnip: Yes, but will install Ubuntu on a subvolume called @, can I specify the subvolume name?
[22:23] <lagbox> i think it is the swapping
[22:23] <Daghdha> minimec and also http://pastebin.com/mQqQE6ZC
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> lagbox: install xfce4, log off and log in to XFCE, may make it faster for you. Or if you are using Precise then try Ubuntu 2D session
[22:23] <waltercool> ActionParsnip: I need it for a custom /boot and a predefined / called Ubuntu
[22:24] <lagbox> haven't had this prob before ... but then again this is the first time i have any ubuntu version installed in 64
[22:24] <minimec> Daghdha: Ok. So there is (at least) basic support for your card in the opensource 'radeon' driver. One solution would be to test the performance with a 14.04 install CD/USB. You could then check if the performance fits your needs. I guess support will be ok for normal computer work, but not for extensive gaming. Lucky as you are, you can always stay on the 12.04 LTS and wait for newer radeon driver versions with better support.
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> waltercool: as long as you set the partitions it should be fine as far as I know.
[22:24] <Daghdha> minimec thanks, i shall be patient.
[22:24] <minimec> Daghdha: Looks like support for your card with fglrx was even dropped before 14.04.
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> Daghdha: there is a legacy ppa for older radeon chips
[22:25] <minimec> Daghdha: You might be surprised... These open source drivers arent that bad anymore, at least for certain cards.
[22:26] <waltercool> ActionParsnip: But Ubiquity don't give you a subvolume option =/
[22:26] <minimec> Daghdha: ActionParsnip: that would also be worth a try...
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> waltercool: i see
[22:26] <waltercool> minimec: Opensource radeon isn't a bad driver btw
[22:27] <lagbox> ActionParsnip,  i will see how the next boot goes after some new settings go into place .. should remove the swapping issue
[22:27] <waltercool> minimec: a lot of Steam devs are using the opensource instead binary, because supporting "mesa" drivers will support intel and radeon at time ;)
[22:28] <minimec> waltercool: I only use it on a very old pentium m with a radeon 9600, and its faster than the fglrx driver ever was at the time. So I agree...
[22:28] <jamesd> how do i disable compiz for a login on 14.04?
[22:29] <xangua>   jamesd ubuntu unityuses compiz
[22:29] <k1l_> jamesd: install and use another dsktop then unity.
[22:29] <jamesd> how do i put it on a diet... i'm running in a vmware don't need fancy graphics... its a pig
[22:30] <k1l_> jamesd: use unity-tweak-tool to remove eyecandy like shadows etc. or use the lxde desktop
[22:30] <Ayonae> jamesd: Try lubuntu (lxde) or you do need a gui? You can run headless.
[22:31] <Ayonae> jamesd: You might also be able to enable 3d acceleration in the hypervisor
[22:33] <Daghdha> minimec THat GPU is coming from inside my CPU? WOuld buying a more recent faster CPU with more recent GPU help?
[22:34] <nsh> THE WHO WAS BUS
[22:34] <nsh> *then
[22:36] <jhutchins> Daghdha: A newer chipset is LESS likely to be supported now.
[22:38] <minimec> Daghdha: I cannot give you an answer, as I don't have much experience with amd/ati cards anymore. It looks like the AMD people are beginning to collaborate quiet well with the opensource community, and there will be a lot of changes for the fglrx driver in the future. That's all I heard.
[22:39] <Daghdha> jhutchins: Newer than my current, it will still be pretty old as this mobo don't support new bleeding edge CPU's
[22:39] <Daghdha> minimec i decide i will not upgrade
[22:40] <Daghdha> Infact it's hard to even find CPU's for this mobo
[22:40] <minimec> Daghdha: That's ok. If you are still happy with 12.04, why not.
[22:41] <codygman> I need help with .Xmodmap and making my macbook pro act like its not a mac keyboard: http://paste.debian.net/94746/
[22:41] <Daghdha> Yes, i am. Thanks for help minimec. Everyone else. CU :)
[22:44] <alket> do you know any good "collaborative sketch" ?
[22:48] <netwrkmstr> Hi everybody.
[22:48] <newbie|4> hi
[22:49] <s7x> Any ideas here? I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt allow me to select my USB hardware(soundcard/device) so do I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[22:50] <netwrkmstr> What type of sound card do you have?
[22:52] <s7x> i have internal and then the USB sound card i plug my guitar into is tascam us-100
[22:52] <energizer> hey i think i have a problem -- do i? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7295090/
[22:53] <netwrkmstr> into your browser? yes
[22:53] <s7x> energizer: cpu getting too hot?
[22:53] <energizer> yup
[22:53] <s7x> energizer: stop overclocking
[22:53] <s7x> heh
[22:53] <energizer> im not!
[22:53] <playx> hi. some parts of my desktop are totaly blur. any help?
[22:54] <netwrkmstr> :-)
[22:54] <s7x> energizer: do you have corsair hydro cooler?
[22:54] <tarepanda> I made a software RAID 5 array with mdadm and it's reporting 6.6 TB as opposed to the 9 TB I'd expect (3 TB x4). Is anyone around who could help me work this out?
[22:54] <s7x> netwrkmstr: any ideas?
[22:55] <energizer> s7x i don't have corsair hydro
[22:55] <s7x> energizer: get one? are you using stock cooler?
[22:55] <Ayonae> energizer: Is this a machine that is running some process that is using the cpu continually tha you want stopped. or is this a hardware cooling question?
[22:55] <energizer> s7x ya from intel
[22:55] <s7x> energizer: also, is hyperthreading turned on in bios? what cpu do you have?
[22:56] <energizer> Intel® Core™ i7-2600K CPU @ 3.40GHz × 8
[22:56] <krabador> hi, i need to chroot ubuntu from live, i've a separate /home
[22:56] <s7x> energizer: try turning off hyperthreading, and making sure speed step is turned off and also what someone else said, check top to make sure a process isnt eating up CPU
[22:56] <krabador> i must mount it or i can leave it unmounted?
[22:56] <s7x> energizer: or get a real cooler, stock coolers suck
[22:57] <ghostx562> how to hide all these join/leave messages on xchat?
[22:57] <tarepanda> Or does anyone know a better channel for me to get mdadm/RAID help on?
[22:57] <s7x> krabador: depends on what u need to do, if u need to modify something in /etc as root, then dont need /home
[22:57] <playx> here is an example: http://postimg.org/image/yr4ahetnd/
[22:57] <Ayonae> i dont see why he needs to adjust anthing. if he isnt overclocked and it's not running 100%, then it's a hardware issue. intel stock coolers on the boxed processors are OK so its proababy jammed up with dust or the airflow in your case is poor
[22:58] <Ayonae> energizer: Sorry my line above is meant for you
[22:58] <newbie|4> :)
[22:58] <Ayonae> s7x: What issue do you have with the intel stock cooler?
[22:59] <s7x> Ayonae: I dont have one at all, someone else did where CPU was 98C
[22:59] <Ayonae> s7x: They aren't like the cheap GPU ones
[22:59] <ghostx562> got it
[22:59] <newbie|4> :)
[22:59] <s7x> Ayonae: hyperthreading can raise cpu extra amount too and hyperthreading is pretty pointless for most applications
[23:00] <energizer> Ayonae: I didn't think of the cpu-killer process idea. i checked my sysmonitor, and banshee was taking 75% cpu. back down to 68 degrees now
[23:00] <newbie|4> !
[23:01] <jakedj93> Is anyone else using Xubuntu 14.04 and using Ibus successfully?
[23:01] <Ayonae> energizer: I would clean the fans and make sure there is airflow inside the case, then monitor the system carefully until you're sure it won't cook off
[23:01] <s7x> energizer: even with cpu at 100% shouldnt get that hot tho unless like someone said, bad airflow, hyperthreading, etc...
[23:01] <Ayonae> energizer: You can blow smoke into the case to see the airflow path
[23:02] <Ayonae> s7x: While I agree that turning it off might help, he shouldn't need to unless he has a hardware problem
[23:02] <s7x> except there are mostly disadvantages from a application standpoint to running hyper threading, faster to leave it off (for most people)
[23:03] <energizer> ya i don't think i have a problem anymore, just banshee was acting up in the background. i have the case open. down to 50 degrees now
[23:03] <s7x> Any ideas here? I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt allow me to select my USB hardware(soundcard/device) so do I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[23:04] <energizer> sta7ic:  you think its worthwhile to get corsair hydro tho, just in general?
[23:04] <Ayonae> sta7ic: I find that quite controversail, do you have benchmarks etc for it?
[23:04] <Ayonae> energizer: More cooling will be good. Just it might be noisy.
[23:04] <sta7ic> energizer: not if you can stay cool, but even with cpu at 100% shouldnt get 98C
[23:04] <sta7ic> when not overclocked
[23:04] <RiotingPacifist> loginctl list-sessions shows no active sesions, is this normal?
[23:04] <sta7ic> Ayonae: plenty of tests on the web for each
[23:05] <newbie|2> d
[23:05] <Ayonae> sta7ic: Yes I know, they seem to disagree with what you said. That's why I asked you which ones I should look at.
[23:05] <julio> hi
[23:05] <sta7ic> Ayonae: overclockig benchmarks with hyperthreading on vrs off
[23:06] <Ayonae> sta7ic: You tell me. You're the one saying it sucks.
[23:06] <energizer> Ayonae: u saying corsair hydro will be noisier than stock intel? (i always thought hydro was quieter, though i've never used it before)
[23:06] <Ayonae> energizer: Hydro in general is cooler
[23:06] <Ayonae> energizer: I have no idea. Adding cooling will be a good thing if done properly.
[23:07] <Ayonae> energizer: *quieter*
[23:07] <Ayonae> energizer: but that particular hydro unit, i have never used
[23:07] <Ayonae> energizer: What I meant to say, is hydro in general is quieter. you have 1 pump vs multple fans
[23:07] <sta7ic> Ayonae: toms hardware, i dont have to justify anything to you
[23:07] <sta7ic> leave it on
[23:07] <sta7ic> idgas
[23:08] <semitones> is there a way to find out what boot options the kernel was given for the current session?
[23:08] <energizer> Ayonae: i see. do you recommend a particular liquid unit?
[23:08] <rww> semitones: cat /proc/cmdline
[23:08] <Ayonae> sta7ic: I am asking you for a specific link. If you can't provide that, I can't evalualte whether or not you are correct.
[23:09] <semitones> rww, thanks!
[23:09] <Ayonae> energizer: No, I can't remecommend you a specific one.
[23:09] <sta7ic> Ayonae: but i dont care if u think im correct or not, read top 10 links on it
[23:09] <sta7ic> i did
[23:09] <energizer> sta7ic: that corsair hydro has fans, huh? do you find it quieter than pure aircooled?
[23:09] <sta7ic> energizer: mine is pretty quiet
[23:10] <energizer> Ayonae: sta7ic: word. thanks yall.
[23:10] <RiotingPacifist> can somebody check if 'loginctl list-sessions' lists any sessions for them?
[23:10] <sta7ic> energizer: i have an older one tho where now i think there might be push pull system with 2 fans in the newer models
[23:10] <penguin42> RiotingPacifist: Does on kubuntu for me
[23:10] <Ayonae> sta7ic: It's been nice talking to you. It's a shame you repeatedly refuse to provide reliable citations; I now have to assume you are deliberately trolling.
[23:11] <sta7ic> energizer: sounds like you fixed the problem anyway, so why fix it if it aint broken now =)
[23:11] <RiotingPacifist> penguin42: thanks
[23:11] <sta7ic> Ayonae: i care what a lil kid on irc thinks
[23:11] <sta7ic> =]
[23:11] <sta7ic> Ayonae: even if i paste a link, u will find something debatable just to argue, and thats not why i am here
[23:12] <sta7ic> so whats the point
[23:12] <penguin42> my Intel supplied fan/heatsink set used to overheat on my i7, got a reasonable 3rd party one - large fan, lot of metal - runs 40c cooler under load and quieter
[23:12] <hexafraction> Hi, I have a realtek RTL8187 USB wifi card, and it's reported as hard-blocked in spite of its not having a hard block capability.
[23:13] <hexafraction> rfkill does not address the issue
[23:15] <hexafraction> The card in question is an alfa AWUS036H. This is a Trusty x64 desktop live CD, not Backtrack (although it works fine in the latter)
[23:16] <SKELETR0N> is there a way to search in nano?
[23:16] <hexafraction> SKELETR0N: Yes, Ctrl+W
[23:16] <SKELETR0N> hexafraction: thanks :)
[23:17] <hexafraction> No problem. Do you think you can help me with my wifi problem I mentioned above? :)
[23:17] <ppinto> I Am trying to use my Raspberry PI as a cups print server. I have successfully set it up to use a raw print queue
[23:17] <BIBILLE> SD
[23:18] <ironhoof> I have something asking for bulletsoftbody, I can't seem to locate it, what, and where is it?
[23:18] <ppinto> (I Used a raw print queue because the pi i so feeble)
[23:18] <sta7ic> Any ideas here? I am trying to get Guitar rig to work under wine. It loads up just fine, but I cannot seem to select any other input device other than pulseaudio which doesnt allow me to select my USB hardware(soundcard/device) so do I need to fix this from a wine standpoint? I tried installed jackd server but still can only select pulseaudio in wine as the audio device (sound card)
[23:18] <SKELETR0N> hexafraction: wish i could but i dont know anything about wifi, mine have all just been supported out of the box
[23:18] <foist> What's the best terminal app? I've tried Gauke and Terra.
[23:18] <hexafraction> OK.
[23:18] <ppinto> I can print from my wie's mac, but I am having no luck from ubuntu laptop (printer output is garbage)
[23:18] <GraemeLion> foist: Best at what?
[23:19] <hexafraction> I also can't authenticat to ask ubuntu all of a sudden., so this is the best place where I can get help. Not too warm a welcome...
[23:19] <foist> GraemeLion: I guess I'm looking for something that supports themes, as I want to use Solarized Dark, and isn't stubborn with multi-monitor support like Guake is.
[23:19] <semitones> If I have a low-res boot screen, does that simply mean that my graphics card doesn't support higher resolution boots?
[23:19] <sta7ic> gnome-terminal hah
[23:20] <ironhoof> xterm
[23:20] <SKELETR0N> hexafraction: have you tried updating with sudo apt-get update?
[23:20] <sta7ic> semitones: it probably means your console doesnt support framebuffer?
[23:21] <hexafraction> Shouldn't be an issue, this is  Tahr live CD I just downloaded and burned. There's an rtl8187 module loaded with insmod
[23:21] <sta7ic> semitones: like having frame buffer support compiled into the kernel, you mean to get the console at higher resolutions right?
[23:21] <GraemeLion> foist: I just use gnome-terminal for that tbh.  Using something like this: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/solarized-must-have-color-paletter-for.html
[23:23] <minimec> foist: xfce4-terminal has quiet a lot of configuration options, like 'start without windows decorations and others. And it doesn't need much xfce dependencies. I use it as my irssi chat terminal.
[23:24] <ironhoof> is there a repo for libbullet-dev?
[23:24] <semitones> sta7ic, I mean, the boot screen (with "ubuntu" and the loading buttons) is text instead of graphic
[23:24] <Pessimist> What's a good way to disable screensaver (lightlocker) while flash or any other certain X app is running? I'm on 14.04. The latest caffeine version for 14.04 doesn't turn off screensaver automatically, it just adds a indicator for screensaver; lightsOn.sh doesn't support lightlocker. Any other ideas?
[23:28] <Beldar> ironhoof, I see it in the ubuntu repos, be sure the dependencies or apps are the correct name.
[23:29] <Beldar> !info libbullet-dev
[23:29] <ironhoof> Beldar: yea bulettesoftbody
[23:30] <ironhoof> bulletsoftbody*
[23:31] <hexafraction> Posted over on Ask Ubuntu if anyone knows about the issue. https://askubuntu.com/questions/451702/alfa-awus036h-reported-as-hard-blocked
[23:31] <Beldar> ironhoof, "In component universe" check the software sources that universe is open
[23:32] <sta7ic> hexafraction: this is a stupid question but ill assume you did sudo or as root to unblock cmd?
[23:32] <ironhoof> alright, checking
[23:33] <hexafraction> sta7ic: Yes, I did (but not on the first time, I caught the mistake)
[23:34] <hexafraction> I'm going to be on school grounds and have to use their public WiFi with this card fairly soon... They won't go for my using Ethernet due to their network config
[23:35] <semitones> I see this answer, but I don't really understand how that package is relevant to the solution, or if it will work for me http://askubuntu.com/questions/431564/how-do-i-fix-ugly-boot-screen-when-using-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-13-10
[23:36] <lix> since I upgraded to trusty tahr server, my interfaces seems to have been named p3p1 and em1, instead of eth0, eth1 etc. - how come ??
[23:37] <gilll69> i need help
[23:37] <gilll69> how can i make my own irc work
[23:37] <gilll69> its working now
[23:37] <gilll69> but only on my PC
[23:37] <sta7ic> semitones: i remember something like that, your not using the X.org nvidia drivers but using the proprietary nvidia drivers right?
[23:38] <semitones> I think I'm using nouveau, but how can one be sure, really?
[23:38] <semitones> no wait, i'm using nvidia-319
[23:39] <sta7ic> semitones: did you manually download from nvidia, or do you run 'additional drivers'?
[23:42] <netwrkmstr> You should be able to using the additional drivers to solve the nvidia issue. There's other options besides going with the nouveau drivers.  Depending on the NVidia Card you have you should be able to select the updates above the nouveau driver that's currently installed.
[23:43] <Bashing-om> semitones: Terminal commands -> sudo lshw -C display , lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga <- To see your graphics card and info .
[23:44] <semitones> sta7ic, additional drivers
[23:44] <sta7ic> semitones: and you went away from using the X.org driver correct?
[23:45] <semitones> yes, I am only using the proprietary binary
[23:45] <sta7ic> semitones: this may not help you, but if you switch back, you may be able to confirm the ugly boot is gone which would narrow your search of why
[23:45] <semitones> ok, I can try that.
[23:45] <semitones> thanks!
[23:45] <sta7ic> x.org drivers are pretty good anyway
[23:46] <semitones> yeah they are -- I think steam asked me to install the proprietary one
[23:46] <sta7ic> i have amd/ati and i stopped using proprietary driver in x, as the x.org may even be better (which is totally sad)
[23:46] <sta7ic> haha
[23:46] <netwrkmstr> lol
[23:46] <sta7ic> ah yeah if you are gaming on steam, that is a different beast, but at least you can confirm and narrow your search
[23:47] <playx> damn i hate this. the is some kind of blur effekt over all my windows
[23:48] <sta7ic> playx: are you using unity or fallback session?
[23:48] <playx> unity
[23:48] <sta7ic> playx: you might want to try fallback session, and if that doesnt work, try fallback session (without effects)
[23:48] <sta7ic> two options there
[23:49] <casual_llama> Hi, does YouTube HTML5 making Firefox use 1 core at 100% sound like a video driver problem? It does that at the beginning, and should I pause the video then and continue, it runs using 2-5% of a core.
[23:49] <playx> and waht is this bug? it comes after install nvidia driver
[23:53] <kman> Hi guys, I would need to do some partitions on my pc, do I need to do it with gparted via live cd or I could do it from my normal ubuntu os?
[23:54] <Bashing-om> kman: From a liveDVD, file systems must be unmounted to mess with the partition tables.
[23:54] <sta7ic> kman: really depends on what you are trying to do and which partitions/drives your modifying
[23:54] <playx>  gnome-flashback it works fine. so unity is broken?
[23:54] <thaicares> how would you start SLiM display manager from terminal?
[23:55] <MathCubes> How do I install "Gnome Software"
[23:55] <anuraag_> MathCubes, what do you mean by GnomeSoftware?
[23:55] <MathCubes> @anuraag_ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HreexQ8Tdk
[23:56] <MathCubes> https://blogs.gnome.org/hughsie/2014/03/24/gnome-software-3-12-0-released/
[23:56] <kman> well now i upload a little screenshot of what I have in my HD
[23:57] <hisforever> is there a good weather Ape for Zorin Os?
[23:57] <OerHeks> MathCubes, check that guys urls, he is using Fedora
[23:57] <bazhang> hisforever, ask in the zorinOS support channel
[23:57] <MathCubes> @OerHeks so Why can't I get it... I am using gnome-shell
[23:57] <hisforever> ok ty
[23:58] <jpalmer> I just accidetnally upgraded an EOL LTS version of ubuntu,  to a non-LTS version.  is there an easy way to upgrade it again, to a new LTS and avoid the non-LTS versions?
[23:58] <sta7ic> playx: understatement about unity being broken =]
[23:58] <sta7ic> haha
[23:58] <anuraag_> MathCubes, are you running gnome as your display manager?
[23:58] <MathCubes> @OerHeks it would look nicer than Ubuntu software center which is chap.
[23:58] <MathCubes> I am using Gnome-Shell as my DE