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[11:17] <`Fibz> im sure yall are sick of me. just remember i thank you and i represent ~100 users
[11:18] <`Fibz> and for the most part we would like to thank you
[11:18] <`Fibz> the rest are just business people who dont understand what u go through
[11:19] <`Fibz> thanks again!
[13:49] <manu> hi
[13:50] <manu> i just install ubuntu studio i need to install usb card i can't edit alsa-base.conf
[13:50] <manu> can someone help me ?
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[14:29] <prakash> hi
[14:53] <Caveat> oi
[15:30] <nixnine> hey guys, i have a problem with studio 13.10.  My drives are now read only.  I had this problem with 12.10 . I installed 13.04.  Everything worked fine until I installed 13.10.  Everything ran fine for a couple months, but about a month ago the read only situation occurred again.
[15:31] <nixnine> Now I'm wondering should i reinstall 13.10 or install 14.04 fresh
[19:15] <steve_> I have a 1024x768 screen.  I just installed Ubuntu Studio 14.04.  It tells me that I have a 640x480 screen.  That is not the case, but I can't get Ubuntu Studio to let me do that.  How can I succeed?
[19:21] <a_panov> is there in new 14.04 close source nVidia drivers?
[19:24] <a_panov> I have soket 775 mobo with nVidia chipset, with free drivers it's freeze at every 5 minutes, I try once close source drv and everything was well
[20:07] <Lehthanis> hey all, anyone here have any experience with video recording?
[20:11] <Lehthanis> because I need to figure out if there's any affordable video capture cards that I can use to bring in two camera feeds and record a stream where I can choose a camera angle live.
[20:11] <Lehthanis> kinda like recording from a hardware video mixer, but doing the mixing on the software side.
[20:30] <fizzle> Just a quick question I can't seem to find an answer to. Is it gimp 2.6 that's included in ubuntu studio?
[20:41] <holstein> Lehthanis: i would just ask a few manufacturers about linux support
[20:41] <holstein> Lehthanis: we dont do anything to prevent any capture cards from working, and neither does main ubuntu
[20:41] <holstein> Lehthanis: i would try doing what you are talking about *without* a capture card, but, with arguably more well supported USB devices
[20:42] <holstein> i was in a charity shop and bought a bunch of USB webcams for $10.. you could use some similarly cheap devices to get started, and replace them with USB cams of better quality
[20:45] <Lehthanis> holstein: we already have two camcorders mounted and ready to go though and they have hdmi out.
[20:46] <Lehthanis> so I was hoping to find a card with two hdmi inputs
[20:46] <holstein> Lehthanis: HDMI input into a linux machine in general is going to be both pricy, and challenging
[20:46] <holstein> Lehthanis: you want to find a card with 2 hdmi inputs.. with linux support
[20:46] <holstein> Lehthanis: im suggesting, get a few USB cams, and try linux
[20:46] <holstein> Lehthanis: this will be less headache for you in the beginning
[20:46] <Lehthanis> I found one but I don't know if it can run BOTH hdmi inputs at the same time
[20:47] <holstein> Lehthanis: you likely dont know if it works in linux at all
[20:47] <Lehthanis> you're right...I don't know much about this process actuall
[20:48] <holstein> Lehthanis: ideally, the manufacturer supports linux.. like they do now on the box with "windows support" or "OSX support"
[20:48] <Lehthanis> it doesn't have to be HDMI though...it can be a lower quality input...the camera also has an RCA output
[20:48] <holstein> Lehthanis: if they dont, then you are basically saying "no thanks, i'll support it myself"
[20:48] <holstein> that can be a challenging standpoint
[20:49] <holstein> its not about learning video production in linux at that point
[20:49] <holstein> it'll be about (if possible) implementing support for higly specialized, and usually proprietary devices
[20:49] <`Fibz> Lehthanis,  in that case, you can get Hauppauge capture cards for cheap. thats what we use.
[20:49] <holstein> Lehthanis: and if `Fibz can first hand suggest a card, thats a good place to start
[20:49] <Lehthanis> which hauppauge card can run two inputs at the same time?
[20:50] <Lehthanis> I was looking at the collosus and it has two inputs but one of them is a pass-through...whats that mean?
[20:51] <holstein> you'd need to ask them.. usually there are manuals online that are downloadable
[20:51] <holstein> what "pass through" means to me is, you can pass the signal through the device
[20:51] <holstein> meaning, you have the signal going to the computer, but you can chaing it out through something else.. but, i would confirm that with the manual
[20:52] <Lehthanis> gotcha...is there linux software that can show me the two inputs and choose which one to go into thr record stream?
[20:52] <holstein> many options for that, AFAIK
[20:53] <Lehthanis> `Fibz: do you know if there's a specific hauppauge card that can bring in the signal from two cameras?
[20:53] <`Fibz> im looking now. the ones i use are old and likely not easy to find
[20:53] <holstein> i would look at whatever webcam studio has become
[20:54] <Lehthanis> sweet...our church currently uses ubuntu studio for audio recording and have loved it so using it for video woudl be great
[20:55] <holstein> cool.. should work well
[20:56] <Lehthanis> the hardest part so far is figuring out the best card to use :(
[20:56] <holstein> Lehthanis: correct, and going to the OS for that is always kind of backwards
[20:56] <Lehthanis> well, I was hoping to draw on some experience in here
[20:57] <holstein> linux is open, from top to bottom.. so anyone can always provide excellent support for it for any product, but, to expect the OS to "patch" or "hack" support together can always be just that.. patched and hacky
[20:57] <holstein> when folks (like intel, typically) provide support, things literally just magically work
[20:57] <holstein> since the kernel is modular, and the drivers can be included for most modern hardware "out of the box
[20:57] <Lehthanis> hmmm...I think you're misunderstanding my question...I'm not asking for anyone to make anything...just figured I'd ask in here if anyone had any experience with this and what they use for it
[20:58] <holstein> Lehthanis: i understand completely
[20:58] <holstein> Lehthanis: im just telling you why i say, the better place to ask is, the manufacturer
[20:58] <Lehthanis> ahh I gotcha.
[20:58] <holstein> Lehthanis: if a video card manufacturer provided and promised linux support, it would likely work "out of the box"
[20:59] <Lehthanis> so if `Fibz has a card recommendation then I'm golden, otherwise I just need to find one that has linux drivers.
[20:59] <Lehthanis> and two inputs...then try a bunch of software
[20:59] <`Fibz> Lehthanis, ImpactVCB does for sure.
[20:59] <holstein> otherwise, i have a process these days that looks like this.. i ask the company  or search for linux native supported hardware.. then, i search google "linux model #" .. then, i have to actually get the hardware, and try it, first hand
[21:00] <`Fibz> if it doesnt have to all be on one card, almost all of their tuners include composite video and s-video inputs
[21:00] <holstein> it doesnt matter of other folks can hack it and make it work.. it has to work for me, and ideally, easily
[21:00] <holstein> i make certain, if new, i can return it.. and if used, i can either return, or get my money back out of it.. or, its cheap enough that i dont care if i lose money on the device
[21:01] <holstein> i mean, if `Fibz says a haugepauge device works, i trust him.. but, if you get it, and it doesnt.. we are community volunteers here
[21:01] <holstein> `Fibz wont be able to be responsible for making that device work for you
[21:01] <`Fibz> now that i think about it, i have a few of my hauppauge tuners up for sale. $15 for single channel, $30 for dual
[21:02] <holstein> for $30, i would risk that purchase and just try it
[21:02] <holstein> going in, knowing that im on my own
[21:02] <Lehthanis> hmmm...and the dual card has linux support?
[21:03] <holstein> Lehthanis: `Fibz says and claims first hand that it works for him
[21:03] <holstein> Lehthanis: this means that, it *should* have linux support.. but, no.. it doesnt have official linux support in any way
[21:04] <`Fibz> Lehthanis,  i would recommend two singles for what you are doing: http://xroads.x10.bz/xroads-network/index.php?do=/marketplace/view/tv-tuner-card-for-pc/
[21:05] <`Fibz> i run it on Ubuntu Studio 12, 14 and xubuntu 12.04
[21:05] <holstein> and, xubuntu = ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[21:06] <Lehthanis> why two singles instead of one dual just out of curiosity?
[21:07] <Lehthanis> I'll have to check the computer to see if it even has that many slots
[21:07] <`Fibz> because these are TV tuners, you would need to adapt the second to coax
[21:08] <`Fibz> they include only 1 composit and 1 s-video but only the coax can be used 2 at a time
[21:09] <Lehthanis> `Fibz: is there a way I can contact you later vie email or something?  I need to shut down and head out for a bit...
[21:10] <Lehthanis> wife's giving me the stink eye because it's finally beautiful outside ;)
[21:10] <`Fibz> go outside dude! its easter!
[21:10] <`Fibz> i think im gonna take that advise myself
[21:12] <Lehthanis> cool...thanks much!  And thanks for all the advice holstein
[21:12] <Lehthanis> I'll probably drop in here again to let you all know how it works out...
[21:13] <Lehthanis> `Fibz: I'll probably be checking with you abotu those cards later too.
[21:13] <Lehthanis> poss tonight or tomorrow
[21:13] <Lehthanis> have a good easter ;)