[00:02] Hi [00:03] hello [00:04] My desktop icons keep rearranging themselves on each boot. Can this be prevented? [00:07] hi everyone. can anyone kindly assist a newbie? :) [00:07] what's your problem? [00:07] mspittel1961, are you by any chance running xubuntu in a virtualized environment? [00:08] I'm installing xubuntu on an old laptop for my mom - problem is, I'm lacking the firmware for the wireless card [00:08] Not now. Bare metal recovered from somebody's trash can. [00:09] mspittel1961, are you saving your session? [00:10] No. I even deactivated the option in the shutdown menu. [00:10] mspittel1961, you might need to save once with the new order [00:11] This machine is for a gift to a linux newbie and I want a reboot to be a reboot [00:11] rather than doing desktop icons, why not save items to the whiskermenu favorites? [00:13] I'm using Xubuntu in Spanish and whisker is unusable. Y deleted it and put classic "Applications menu" instead [00:13] mspittel1961, you can edit the regular applications menu with menulibre as well [00:14] I tend to use the desktop as a temporary storage for things waiting to be stored somewhere else or deleted [00:14] Let say for ongoing tasks. [00:15] right... so why does it matter if they got rearranged? [00:15] I don't have launchers on the Desktop, just regular folders an files [00:15] but it's potentially a bug [00:15] the icons should be saved per resolution [00:15] so if you change your resolution, even by one pixel (possible in a virtual machine), they get restored to the original state [00:16] but this is obviously something else [00:16] file a bug in launchpad :) [00:16] When I have let's say, 25 files and folders on the Desktop, I want them to stay where I put them. [00:16] ubuntu-bug xfdesktop4 [00:18] Imagine if stuff on your REAL desk top were moving around (OK, sometimes this happens with the night shift cleanning personnel!) [00:19] well fortunately the "real desktop" metaphor doesn't apply to the (xfce) desktop... [00:19] that is, real desktop isn't searchable etc. [00:20] this is another weakness in xfce. Catfish never finds the files I'm searching for. [00:20] I don't know if I'm entering the wrong syntax or what [00:21] i'm not too familiar with catfish, i order my stuff on the directory structure [00:21] OK, may be "never" is to harsh. But "frequently" is more accurate [00:22] mspittel1961, there is a bug with current xfdesktop implementation where it doesn't save icons positions if you change the resolution and after that you logout, or if you change some icon position and logout before waiting 7 seconds. [00:22] mspittel1961, if it should find something it doesn't... well, you know the story: file a bug [00:23] besides these small nuissances, Xubuntu 14.04 rocks! [00:23] I am experiencing a bug in where i put my pC to sleep then wake it up, it askes for my password. When I put in my passwords I get a black screen. [00:24] let me try to see if the same happens here [00:25] And to get out of the blank screen? Hard reset? [00:25] mhm [00:25] ok. I'll test this and be back in a few moments [00:25] Will this get fied anytime soon? [00:26] Kekai, once it's triaged, developers can start working on it [00:27] I never ad this problem in 13.10 [00:27] I think this would be something to fix ASAP [00:27] as people need to hard reset and that can kill people's hard drives and PCs [00:28] I just tested it and couldn't reproduce this with the "Suspend" option. [00:28] Kekai, have you tried with ALT+F1 when you have this black screen? [00:28] It worked as supposed. [00:28] let me see [00:35] both laptops i've got running 14.04 have problems coming back from suspend when using light locker [00:36] after logging in i just get a blank display [00:36] if i disable lock on suspend in light locker settings all is well [00:37] I have a similar problem, but only on a virtual machine. On a real PC is working well. I suppose it depends from your particular GPU and its drivers for linux. [00:38] On the virtual machine I have to disable light locker to not make it hangs. [00:38] seems to be just a light locker issue for me. both of these laptops lock fine with xscreensaver [00:39] i might just go back to xscreensaver. the screensavers are kinda cool anyway [00:39] maybe xscreensaver is more "conservative" in the way it uses the hardware [00:39] light locker is sort of a new project too right? [00:40] I'm not sure but I think it's recent. [00:40] mspittel1961: I just tried ALT-F1 [00:40] ot working [00:40] maybe I need its a light locker issue [00:40] Kekai, so just disable light locker and be happy [00:41] :D [00:41] amigamagic: its an issue with sleep mode [00:41] amigamagic, you can use xscreensaver as a locker/screen saver instead. found of lots of xfce desktops [00:42] A newbie question: what is light locker? [00:42] I go to sleep mode and it locs, but goes toa balck screen upon login. [00:42] james0r3, yes, you can use it. [00:42] Kekai, disable light locker [00:42] and check if this solve your problem [00:43] if it des I have backup of Xubuntu 12.04 LTS on a USB drive [00:43] *doesnt [00:45] [01:03] Now I am not getting any lock screen. [01:03] I turned of light locker. Is there a way to lock my screen at all? [01:03] Sure, you can use something else. [01:06] like 12.04 LTS? [01:06] :3 [01:06] xscreensaver is what that one used. [01:07] and yet...I never had any issues where I need to hard reset my system [01:10] Kekai, install xscreensaver and be happy [01:13] I installed it, now how do I activate it? [01:13] in the settings there should be a new screensaver icon [01:14] Alt+F2 -> xscreensaver -no-splash [01:14] (Or that, there you can start the daemon as well.) [01:28] Hmm, new install of 14.04. Anyone have issues with Parole Media Player saying "GStreamer backend error. Could not initialize supporting library"? [01:33] With xubuntu 14.04 LTS how do I enable Shift + Delete for directories? It's only working for files. [01:39] oooh, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1309951 That fixed it... [01:39] Launchpad bug 1309951 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole reports "Gstreamer backend error, could not initialise supporting library" because "gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio" is missing." [Undecided,Confirmed] [01:41] isnt parol the music player? [01:43] I think gmusicbrowser is... at least the default... :/ [01:43] * seekwill <-- xubuntu newbie [01:47] I just installed Nightingale [01:48] looks better and handles my library so much better [02:18] Kekai: Try deadbeef; much better. [02:18] nah [02:18] I like Songbird/Nightingale [02:19] It's not supported anymore [02:19] yes it is [02:19] Songbird is Nightingale [02:19] same team [02:19] just new project [02:19] oh i see [02:20] either way deadbeef is still nicer ;) [02:22] if unfortunately named ... [02:23] Noskcaj: would you mind terribly to add gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio to recommends, we've had several reports of that fixing the above bug [02:24] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/parole/+bug/1309951 [02:24] Launchpad bug 1309951 in parole (Ubuntu) "Parole reports "Gstreamer backend error, could not initialise supporting library" because "gstreamer1.0-pulseaudio" is missing." [Undecided,Confirmed] [02:25] Anyone have issue with SHIFT + DELETE on directories on the desktop not working? [03:11] xubuntu is the right fit between debian squeeze and debian wheezy that convinced me to give ubuntu another chance after a few years off [03:12] it actually runs on my 7-year-old laptop yet has current enough packages that i don't feel like i'm settling for ancient versions in exchange for performance [03:13] with that being said, is it possible to set auto-login? i have no personal data on this laptop and intend to only use it for VNC/ssh to my home computer [03:15] ToHellWithGA, Settings -> Users and Groups -> Select user -> 'Password' Change... [03:16] okay, removed light locker and using xscreensaver now and i can lock on suspend now. i imagine this light locker issue must be affecting lots of others. [03:17] ToHellWithGA, select 'Don't ask for passwork on login' [03:20] hi [03:20] hi all [03:20] i am nobody [03:20] yikes, my computer is talking to me!! [03:21] any information on this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309054 [03:21] Launchpad bug 1309054 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "huawei E355 usb router not working properly in xubuntu 14.04" [Undecided,New] [03:21] a USB hub? [03:23] That is weird. [03:23] nhoj: that didn't work at all, man [03:24] i just rebooted and there was still a login screen and it still required a password [03:24] is the login screen part of xfce or is it something external, like gdm? [03:25] ToHellWithGA, hmm, that is the place to change that I believe. lightdm is the displayed manager [03:27] ToHellWithGA, check to see if the button is still checked on the Settings for Users and Groups [03:27] is is [03:27] s/is is/it is/ [03:27] plain as day it says "not asked on login" [03:28] i'm thinking maybe i need to configure the login screen rather than my user settings [03:28] if i can tell the login screen to autologin my user, the password prompt should be irrelevent unless i for some reason must logout and log back in without rebooting [03:30] ToHellWithGA, If you log out the password would be required I think if I understand your statement that is. [03:31] ToHellWithGA, Should work on reboot though, correct? Is that what you expect? [03:31] ToHellWithGA, That is, no password required on reboot. [03:31] the prompt is still there [03:31] i click my name then must hit return with no password [03:31] i'm trying to avoid the entire login process - boot direct to desktop [03:32] nothing of value on a laptop not worth stealing, so i just want it to be usable as soon as i plug it in - that's right, the battery is shot :-) [03:33] ToHellWithGA, Oh, it is not what I would expect either from earlier versions. Must be the way it works. I will test here. c u l8r eh [03:33] thanks man [03:36] ToHellWithGA, It goes as you experienced her as well. Perhaps, because there is that Guest login, another words another user, it must check to see who wants in after a restart. [03:38] TheSheep, otherwise, it would only go to one user when other ones could then never to available for login. Just reasoning and guessing really. [03:40] ToHellWithGA, otherwise, it would only go to one user when other ones could then never to available for login. Just reasoning and guessing really. [03:40] maybe so [03:41] ToHellWithGA, the guest user is really a kiosk mode I believe. You could use that for your purposes as well. [03:42] Why not use autologin? [03:43] Unit193, ToHellWithGA is not satisfied because the autologin present the display manager instead of going straight to his desktop. [03:43] Unit193: i would like to do so, but i can't find a way to enable autologin [03:43] i can skip entering my password, but i still have to pick a user from a login screen [03:44] One does not need a password for autologin but one must select a user if only the default one. [03:45] like, what he said, man :) [03:45] https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LightDM#Enabling_Autologin Did you edit the config then add your user to the group? [03:47] no just selected 'Don't ask for password on login' [03:51] hello there.. [03:52] Unit193: that worked [03:52] i have a question.. can xubuntu use csd [03:52] ToHellWithGA: Great! [03:52] the file is actually /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/10-xubuntu.conf [03:52] ToHellWithGA, enjoy! [03:52] thanks guys [03:53] ToHellWithGA: Right, that's the xubuntu session one, you can make your own there too (I do to disable the guest account.) [03:53] OH bah. [03:53] !info csd [03:53] Package csd does not exist in trusty [03:56] thanks... ubottu [03:57] What is it? [03:58] Think he's talking about gnome's client side decorations. [03:59] yeap client side deco... [04:00] XFCE is migrating to gtk3 I believe so we might see it at some point. [04:00] Correct wording, at some point. :P [04:00] anyway.. is there a way not to use the title bar and just use csd when using new gnome/elementary apps.. [04:02] cause am impressed how CSD conserves space on my netbook.. plus the autohide panel.. [04:02] There's another branch of Xfwm to work better with headerbars at least. [04:04] can you point me out how to's for that to work.. if its okay [04:04] I wouldn't mind the option myself. Title bar, menubar, toolbar; lot of space there. [04:41] Hello! [04:44] hey [04:44] guys [04:44] i m new [04:44] hi [04:44] hi tonystark [04:44] so anyone here knows how to get shutdown and login sound in xubuntu 14.04 [04:45] ReenoHal: NYC TALKING TO U [04:45] =) [04:45] why is Xubuntu giving me a 640x480 display on VirtualBox? I'm using Xubuntu 14.04 right now. [04:45] u using wubi? [04:46] no. [04:46] strange i faced these issues when i used wubi .. can u give me more details about how u installed partitions and all and solve my problem also u getting sound in ur xubuntu like login sound and all [04:47] I just stuck the .iso image into my Virtualbox image (20GB VHD). It installs fine but the desktop now has 640x480. [04:48] see try to use a usb device and then reinstall it and try to use some other version becz 14.04 which u downloaded is in beta version [04:49] no it is the final 14.04 [04:49] lts stable version are meant to be released in july the version would be 14.04.1 [04:49] <`Fibz> have you run updates yet? [04:49] check on omgubuntu.co.uk [04:50] or give it a try with usb stick [04:50] <`Fibz> i've been having problems with 14.04 and video. just update and reboot, solved [04:50] The headers for current running kernel were not found. This is what I got when installing Guest Additions on Xubuntu. [04:51] also, unknown version if the X Window System installed. Not installing X Window System drivers. [04:51] bro reinstall it stop cplicating it [05:05] what does xubuntu uses for keyring? gnome-keyring? [05:06] tonystark: check this out. fixed my events sounds: http://forum.xfce.org/viewtopic.php?id=8618 [05:07] thnks man [05:08] no problem =) [05:08] shit now working again [05:08] not*' [05:11] thanks RENOHAL [05:11] no problem [05:20] Hello! [05:21] hello. its weird, when i tried live mode with both latest ubuntu and xubuntu, additional drivers tab in software properties found showed usin xorg and found nvidia drivers available for selecting. but after installing, when i open that tab for installng nvidia drivers, it crashes. i have a nvidia optimus asus ultrabook. what to do? [05:21] any information on this problem with huawei e355 modem and xubuntu 14.04? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1309054 [05:21] Launchpad bug 1309054 in modemmanager (Ubuntu) "huawei E355 usb router not working properly in xubuntu 14.04" [Undecided,New] [05:30] hello? is my problem a known bug or something? [05:33] nicklas: so it's crashing after installing the nvidia drivers? works fine before installing, right? [05:33] no [05:34] it crashes when clicking the tab [05:34] RenoHal, [05:34] oh.. after installing xubuntu but before installing nvidia [05:34] RenoHal, you want output [05:34] ? [05:34] ya [05:34] yeah [05:35] RenoHal, i have to use pastebin right? [05:35] Pastebin if you could. Also, apport should detect the crash and pop up. [05:35] it did, and i did crash report [05:36] Ah cool, what bug number? [05:37] Unit193, no idea, it doesnt show [05:38] Unit193 RenoHal , this is pastebin, note that i can click all tabs without any error: http://pastebin.com/e3a8GMmT [05:38] * Unit193 ponders https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/1268750 [05:38] Launchpad bug 1268750 in software-properties (Ubuntu) "software-properties does not recognize Nvidia Optimus hardware" [Medium,In progress] [05:41] its weird, in there a guy says it doesnt show up in live, but shows up after installing, but its the opposite for me [05:42] you guys got the pastie? [05:42] Yeah. You can dpkg -l | grep nvidia and remove it, or whatever you want from there at least though. What's the end game? [05:43] Unit193, what do you mean, what should i do? [05:44] Unit193, well, that didnt show me nothing [05:45] anything [05:45] sorry [05:45] Unit193, nicklas@nicklas-S551LB:~$ dpkg -l | grep nvidia [05:45] nicklas@nicklas-S551LB:~$ [05:45] nothing [05:45] Really? Strange, gives me http://paste.openstack.org/show/Ysf3gdl4Tmx5cVw1bzXR/ (Older card, I know. :) ) [05:48] This is what I get, but I have xedgers configured. I'm noticing Prime is listed: http://paste.openstack.org/show/76404/ [05:48] is Prime same as Optimus? [05:48] Unit193, uhm, thats not the card (hardware) just the nvidia packages (software) you have installed. i dont have any nvidia stuff installed since the tab crashes so... [05:49] I am aware it's the packages. I seem to have misunderstood about what you had, sorry. [05:49] hehe [05:50] need to go eat breakfast apperantly with family, before they get mad [05:52] do i have to do a bug report manually about my problem, or is it enough to report the problem ticking the report problem box when the error window pops up? [05:53] When the error pops up, it should give you the option, but it'll open a browser for you to log in to Launchpad and finish the bug report. [05:53] Unit193, ah it doesnt [05:54] the window just disappears after clicking close or ok [05:55] guess i should do bug then [05:55] bye an ty [05:55] Sorry couldn't help. [05:56] anyone here can tell me how to get sytem sounds in xubuntu 14.04 [05:57] that post didn't work for you? [05:57] nopes [05:57] problem again [05:57] only a beep sound tht too once [05:58] seem to be unlucky [05:59] anyone here? [06:01] tonystark: what do you get from this? xfconf-query -c xsettings -p /Net/SoundThemeName [06:01] i cant get to this [06:01] i have got every sound installed [06:01] but cant use them [06:02] not working tried everything like autostart at the session [06:03] says default [06:04] you need to install Borealis from post #6 and follow the directions on post #2 [06:06] xfce supoorts event sounds?? [06:07] when it's configured correctly. they don't have an actual event sound settings.. not on their priority list [06:07] ohk.. [06:08] then not to worry i thought something wrong with my version [06:08] sorry bro [06:08] i just eat half of ur head [06:08] oh no.. it's alright [06:08] hehe [06:08] so anything i can do with xubuntu something exceptional [06:11] good morning [06:11] shut up [06:11] lolz kidding [06:11] good morning [06:12] it's better for older computers like mine...other than that, would recommend ubuntu or ubuntugnome [06:12] waiting for mint to come out with 17 [06:13] lolz i installed it becz i like minimalist things [06:14] yeah, I do too.. but some things do get sacrificed like the event sounds.. other then that, it's perfect for me [06:32] hi. can anyone help me installing amd driver for xubuntu 14.04 [06:32] i have a radeon 4250 [06:33] i dont know if its supported by fglrx [06:38] try the normal flgrx driver under settings> additional drivers [06:39] i tried that. xubuntu doesnt recognize the video card [06:40] i also tried to load amd control panel.. it loaded fine but didnt find any card [06:40] i thing the driver is not compatible [06:40] heya [06:40] i got a problem with fullscreen under 14.04 when im playing at minecraft [06:41] gre- youu [06:41] windows game becomes transparent [06:41] so im forced to restart the game [06:41] gre- if you're running ubuntu, this channel is not the one you want [06:41] under 12.04 everything worked well with f11 [06:41] ah? [06:41] gre- suggest you file your bug report and search for a fix [06:41] xubuntu isn't the same? [06:42] its just xfce instead... [06:42] !xubuntu [06:42] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [06:42] yes so no big differences [06:43] gre- and yet it IS different. you're running ubuntu. unity desktop interface. different apps. [06:43] ok so im on xubuntu and i got a fullscreen problem, can you help? [06:43] gre- same solution. you said "bug".. file the report and see. I don't minecraft [06:43] fullscreen code isn't similar? ok [06:44] lol [06:44] minecraft or other games, same problem [06:47] bye bye === mike is now known as Guest69895 [07:33] happy Easter everyone [07:33] is there anybody out there? [07:34] xubuntu897 ask your support questions [07:36] Hello. My first time with Xubuntu (many years on ubuntu and mint...): my question is: I want to install serviio dlna server, but i can't find ffmpeg (easily). How can I setup it? [07:36] xubuntu897 ffmpeg has been deprecated. use avconv [07:37] I'm not sure serviio can work with avconv as it is a prerequisite to it [07:37] I will give it a try anyway [07:42] FFmpeg 2.2.1 was released on 4/10/2014.. how is this depreciated? just curious, cause I thought they were gone long time ago [07:43] RenoHal acerimmer@Emperor:~$ ffmpeg -i [07:43] ffmpeg version 0.8.10-4:0.8.10-0ubuntu0.12.04.1, Copyright (c) 2000-2013 the Libav developers [07:43] built on Feb 6 2014 20:56:59 with gcc 4.6.3 [07:43] *** THIS PROGRAM IS DEPRECATED *** [07:43] This program is only provided for compatibility and will be removed in a future release. Please use avconv instead. [07:43] Missing argument for option 'i' [07:43] acerimmer@Emperor:~$ [07:43] RenoHal that's my output in precise ... [07:44] !pastebin | cfhowlett [07:44] cfhowlett: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [07:44] hmm.. maybe ubuntu is just not supporting it anymore.. [07:54] cfhowlett: looks like debian stopped supporting ffmpeg deb's and went to avconv.. so you have to compile it yourself: http://ffmpeg.gusari.org/static/64bit/ [07:54] or /32bit/ [07:55] RenoHal ah, good to know. Thank you for tracking this down! Think I'll just stick with avconv - command line structures are not dissimilar to ffmpeg's ... [07:55] yeah, good idea, I did the same =) [08:34] trying to get skype to activate from one click on the tray icon [08:34] had this on non-ubuntu distros. pretty convenient [09:43] is it normal for xubuntu 14.04 livecd to identify as kubuntu everywhere? === kubuntu is now known as Guest91226 [09:43] is it normal for xubuntu 14.04 livecd to identify as kubuntu everywhere? [09:44] ...No, are you sure you don't have Kubuntu? [09:45] what do you mean by identify and everywhere ? [09:45] Seems his live session username at least. [09:45] yep [09:46] Unit193, yes, i am, i am on the livecd with no packages installed [09:46] no extra ones, i mean [09:46] well_laid_lawn, for example, after booting up, the livecd said, "Install Kubuntu" / "Try Kubuntu" [09:46] my username is also kubuntu [09:47] when you try it do you have a xfce desktop ? [09:47] yes [09:47] i am on the livecd right now, and it is xfce [09:47] the icon on the desktop also says "Install Kubuntu 14.04 LTS" [09:47] Source of the download and md5sum of the ISO? [09:48] http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ [09:48] give me a sec for the md5sum [09:48] lsb-release is still a valid check ? [09:48] lsb_release -a says "Ubuntu 14.04 LTS" [09:49] the source of the iso might be the problem [09:49] people play silly games sometimes [09:49] ... [09:49] ae446659057ee49e57773bf446398856 xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso [09:50] my xubuntu iso also has that md5. I will try it. [09:51] yes, md5sum matches with what is on http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/xubuntu/14.04/release/ [09:52] looks fine here - try xubuntu - xchat wants me to be xubuntu [09:52] i do have kubuntu installed on my system, but that should not matter, right? [09:53] does mount list any of you hdd's [09:53] s/ou/our/ [09:54] yes, well_laid_lawn , it lists /dev/sda3 now because i mounted it to run the md5sum [09:55] Oh, real quick, cat /proc/cmdline [09:56] $ cat /proc/cmdline [09:56] file=/cdrom/multiboot/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64/preseed/xubuntu.seed boot=casper cdrom-detect/try-usb=true noprompt floppy.allowed_drive_mask=0 ignore_uuid live-media-path=/multiboot/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64/casper/ initrd=/multiboot/xubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64/casper/initrd.lz quiet splash -- maybe-ubiquity [09:58] And to be complete, pastebin /etc/casper.conf (IIRC?) [09:58] https://dpaste.de/DjkL [09:59] yes, that does say kubuntu at a few places, Unit193 [10:00] Indeed, now if I could only remember how it picked that up. I know one way is boot options. [10:02] i used the multiboot tool in windows to create a liveusb with xubuntu, ubuntu-gnome, and plain ubuntu -- could that be a problem? [10:02] I noticed the boot line was different, yeah. Well, something made a difference for sure, not sure if it's that though. [10:04] probably not a bug in xubuntu then, correct? [10:05] Not Xubuntu itself, but perhaps a core component. I sure wouldn't expect an Xubuntu live disk to say Kubuntu. :) [10:05] neither 32 or 64 bit do anything unexpected [10:05] here [10:05] did you want me to file a bug for this? [10:06] http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/ -- is what i used [10:11] I'll try and take a look later. [10:11] Unit193, tanks [10:11] thanks [10:16] Unit193: actually, never mind, the problem exists on all multi-boots created by this tool [10:16] even ubuntu-gnome thinks its kubuntu === Guest2199 is now known as guest2199 [10:16] Mhmm, figured. Taking something from the system, just not sure if casper or the tool is to blame. [10:18] I have problems with desktop icons arrangement in Xubuntu 14.04 [10:19] Sometimes change position after reboot [10:20] It seems to be this same bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfdesktop4/+bug/1190990 [10:20] Launchpad bug 1190990 in xfdesktop4 (Ubuntu) "Xfce4 mess up with icon positions" [Undecided,Fix released] [10:30] hi there. seems the upgrade to 14.04 broke the "lock screen" feature. i still had xscreensaver installed. deinstalled it meanwhile. now, how do i place lightlocker in its place? [10:31] do i need to start it with my session? [10:32] qwertz_: Have you checked in light-locker-settings? [10:33] Unit193, yes, it says it's activated [10:33] So, what makes you think it isn't? [10:34] okay, idea: i used to lock my screen using the Kupfer lanucher. this doesn't work. going the direct way using the menu does work. [10:34] okay, so Kupfer's fault. [10:34] Have kupfer call xflock4? [10:35]