| Linusnewb | hi anyone here who can help? | 00:25 |
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| Linusnewb | I have upgraded to kubuntu 14.04 but I have some errors | 00:27 |
| roney | what problems are you having? | 00:35 |
| nescius | good morning, afternoon, night.. | 00:42 |
| nescius | can you help me with repository issue? i want to know whether there are kontact related packages in 14.04 web repositories | 00:43 |
| nescius | i am struggling with this issue since friday as i am trying to update via web | 00:43 |
| === sgubanoff is now known as G_ray | ||
| nescius | http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kate/?C=M;O=A | 00:48 |
| nescius | why is there a newer kate package for 13.10 than for 14.04 ? | 00:48 |
| valorie | nescius: please file a bug on launchpad; if there is an newer version indeed something was overlooked in the release | 01:16 |
| valorie | I think you can use `ubuntu-bug kate` | 01:16 |
| nescius | valorie: thats cool! doing it right now | 01:44 |
| nescius | btw do you run 14.04? | 01:44 |
| valorie | nescius: I've been running it since beta1 | 01:55 |
| valorie | smooth as silk | 01:55 |
| valorie | that ubuntu-bug command really helps when you are testing | 01:55 |
| nescius | thanks, its really helpful, however in meantime i found a newer version of kate in universe | 02:00 |
| nescius | which does not work while trying to update to the 14.04.. for some reason | 02:00 |
| valorie | def. a packaging bug then | 02:01 |
| valorie | I assume someone overlooked the version number | 02:01 |
| valorie | or uploaded a wrongly-versioned file | 02:02 |
| valorie | Stuff Happens [tm] | 02:02 |
| Ekush3y | Why Konversation was replaced by Quassel as the default IRC client? | 03:49 |
| valorie | Ekush3y: that happened years ago when Konvi wasn't ready for the release | 03:50 |
| valorie | and we never changed back | 03:50 |
| valorie | I prefer and use konvi, but understand that stability is important too | 03:51 |
| valorie | I wish we had never felt it necessary to change, because I <3 Konvi | 03:52 |
| Ekush3y | hi Valorie | 04:02 |
| Ekush3y | I haven't tried a fresh installation of Kubuntu in a long time, i've been upgrading in the last few years after every release. | 04:04 |
| valorie | same here | 04:04 |
| Ekush3y | Yesterday I used the 14.04 live CD to install at a friend's computer and realized there is no Konversation. How is life without Konversation? I've always used it and nothing compares to it. :) | 04:05 |
| valorie | it is easily installable | 04:06 |
| valorie | just not provided on the ISO | 04:06 |
| Ekush3y | So is this Quassel a part of the KDE suit? Or does it come with Ubuntu only? | 04:06 |
| valorie | it is a Qt application | 04:07 |
| valorie | I don't know if other KDE distros provide it by default | 04:07 |
| Ekush3y | Wow | 04:07 |
| Ekush3y | That's surprising | 04:07 |
| valorie | what's surprising? | 04:07 |
| Ekush3y | Nevermind, I've to run now... thanks for your time valorie | 04:09 |
| Ekush3y | Bye... | 04:09 |
| === julian is now known as Guest68669 | ||
| nescius | do you know how to get details from apt? i am trying to get kate to install, it takes all its dependencies and then rejects to install as there is some conflict, but WHAT? | 04:39 |
| nescius | http://paste.kde.org/p9kvz9pqu | 04:40 |
| valorie | nescius: did you try `sudo apt-get install -f`? | 04:42 |
| valorie | also, do you have any PPAs or pins that could be causing this? | 04:42 |
| nescius | valorie: i had, at some time, i am now trying to remove EVERYTHING | 04:43 |
| nescius | all ppa repos are gone now | 04:43 |
| nescius | i tried the -f with no difference | 04:43 |
| nescius | http://paste.kde.org/pmdx0jjwq | 04:44 |
| valorie | just -f, no kate | 04:44 |
| valorie | that makes it try to fix all dependencies | 04:45 |
| nescius | nothing changed | 04:45 |
| valorie | :( | 04:45 |
| valorie | this is in 14.04, correct? | 04:45 |
| nescius | this is saucy now | 04:45 |
| nescius | i have same issues with the 'trusty' | 04:46 |
| captain_haddock | nescius: Try aptitude instead of apt | 04:46 |
| nescius | i have saucy repos, no kde packages installed.. | 04:46 |
| captain_haddock | nescius: Try aptitude instead of apt-get* | 04:46 |
| nescius | captain_haddock: i tried aptitude, apt, synaptic, muon (when it was installed) | 04:46 |
| nescius | synaptic has some results - it sets every depencencies for kate and then selects kate itself for removal.. | 04:47 |
| valorie | very peculiar | 04:48 |
| captain_haddock | nescius: What does "no kde packages installed" mean? | 04:48 |
| valorie | I"m sure nobody messed with saucy packages | 04:48 |
| nescius | captain_haddock: i removed them as packages, i only have what is opened in my current session :( | 04:49 |
| nescius | valorie: i am sure i messed my apt db somehow | 04:49 |
| valorie | which install -f should fix, nescius | 04:51 |
| valorie | if you use it exactly as i typed it above | 04:51 |
| valorie | nothing else | 04:51 |
| valorie | oh, after doing an apt-get update | 04:51 |
| valorie | and probably dist-upgrade as well | 04:52 |
| === kubuntu is now known as nodice | ||
| nescius | here are the results -http://paste.kde.org/p9zh24hn3 | 04:54 |
| nodice | kubuntu doesn't work for me - same problem as before | 04:54 |
| captain_haddock | nescius: perhaps you should try installing KDE properly first? (or kubuntu-desktop) | 04:54 |
| nodice | 13.10 and 14.04 and no change!!!!!!!!!!! | 04:54 |
| nodice | nescius: don't do it! | 04:55 |
| captain_haddock | nodice: What is the same problem as before? | 04:55 |
| nodice | my smartphone won't connect | 04:55 |
| nodice | I can connect with ubuntu and gnome | 04:56 |
| nodice | so, it is a kde-based issue?? | 04:56 |
| nescius | captain_haddock: i tried what you suggested: http://paste.kde.org/pgjdi1swt | 04:56 |
| nodice | why would you install kde? | 04:57 |
| captain_haddock | nodice: smartphone? | 04:57 |
| nodice | yes, my htc one x | 04:57 |
| valorie | damn, something is seriously broken in your system, nescius | 04:57 |
| valorie | this is a plain saucy install, up to date, no pinning, no PPAs? | 04:58 |
| nescius | valorie: i know, i have the same for too long.. upgraded from the last LTS | 04:58 |
| captain_haddock | nescius: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ark audiocd-kio (etc.); list all dependencies | 04:59 |
| nodice | so with all the smartphones out there, the kde devs didn't address the problems at all | 04:59 |
| nescius | nothing is pinned, there were some kde ppas before the 4.11.5 | 04:59 |
| valorie | so you went 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 ? | 04:59 |
| captain_haddock | nodice: stop whining and explain your problem properly. | 04:59 |
| nodice | it won't open anything - aka won't mount | 05:00 |
| nodice | available devices shows 3 logos lol | 05:00 |
| captain_haddock | That is not explaining your problem properly. | 05:00 |
| captain_haddock | lolol | 05:00 |
| valorie | nodice, did you file a bug about this before? | 05:00 |
| nodice | yes, long ago | 05:00 |
| nodice | I got rid of kubuntu since it was never fixed | 05:00 |
| valorie | any comments or feedback on your bug report? | 05:01 |
| nescius | thanks for your help, this does not work, i am going to drop apt and try pacman instead, maybe it will output something tangable and usefull | 05:01 |
| valorie | my phone connects just fine | 05:01 |
| valorie | nescius: not for kubuntu! | 05:01 |
| valorie | that's ... arch I think | 05:02 |
| nodice | I am showing obvious bugs unless you think the logo of a smartphone should be displayed THREE times?!? | 05:02 |
| valorie | nodice, screenshot? | 05:02 |
| nescius | i think that it should be multiplatform, isnt it? | 05:02 |
| valorie | no, it is not | 05:02 |
| nescius | like smart or whatever the suse guys are using | 05:02 |
| valorie | pacman will not work in kubuntu or any debian dirivetive | 05:03 |
| valorie | oh geez | 05:03 |
| valorie | derivative | 05:03 |
| nescius | it does, but it is literally pacman the game | 05:03 |
| nescius | :D | 05:03 |
| valorie | we use dpgk/apt | 05:03 |
| valorie | ok | 05:03 |
| valorie | lol | 05:03 |
| nodice | "Unknown error code 150' | 05:03 |
| nodice | I/O problem | 05:04 |
| nodice | please send a full bug report blah, blah | 05:04 |
| nodice | what for? | 05:04 |
| valorie | right, without one, problems can't be fixed | 05:04 |
| nodice | the bug is ongoine - I said I filed one beforeeeeeeee | 05:04 |
| valorie | sure, but I don't have a bug number to check | 05:05 |
| nodice | it's detected as a camera | 05:05 |
| nodice | ubuntu with gnome detects it at least | 05:05 |
| valorie | cool | 05:05 |
| valorie | so you know you don't have a bad cable or something | 05:06 |
| nodice | my conclusion: kde sucks | 05:06 |
| valorie | !language | 05:06 |
| ubottu | The main Ubuntu channels require that you speak in calm, polite English. For other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList | 05:06 |
| nodice | in Dolphin: camera: HTC HTC One (ID3) | 05:06 |
| valorie | ah, we have the same phone | 05:06 |
| nodice | HTC twice? lol | 05:07 |
| valorie | Available devices: Portable Media Player (Android Phone) | 05:08 |
| nodice | 'Open with File Manager' is shown twice too | 05:08 |
| valorie | in Dolphin: Android Phone | 05:08 |
| valorie | ah, camera is seen separately, yes | 05:08 |
| nodice | I guess kde detects it as 3 phones connected? lol | 05:08 |
| nodice | or cameras | 05:09 |
| valorie | it is listed under both Media and Devices | 05:09 |
| nodice | I was told kde is really good now... nah | 05:09 |
| valorie | which is proper, I think | 05:09 |
| valorie | depending on what you want to access | 05:09 |
| valorie | so you can get your photos off without drilling down | 05:10 |
| valorie | I find that convenient | 05:10 |
| valorie | ymmv | 05:10 |
| nodice | whatever | 05:10 |
| valorie | thanks for pointing that out; I hadn't noticed before | 05:11 |
| nodice | it's under 'Portable Media Player' and shows 3 icons | 05:11 |
| nodice | beside one is Android Phone | 05:11 |
| valorie | and getting to Dolphin from the Camera does indeed go directly to the camera | 05:11 |
| valorie | nice | 05:11 |
| valorie | so you can go directly to your music files too | 05:12 |
| valorie | excellent | 05:12 |
| nodice | your fairy tales don't interest me | 05:12 |
| nodice | my smartphone comes alive and walks by itself | 05:12 |
| valorie | mine is crippled by Verizon | 05:13 |
| valorie | not so talented | 05:13 |
| nodice | ppl are asking how to connect this phone in the forum lol | 05:20 |
| nodice | good luck | 05:20 |
| nodice | probably have to use some workaround... easier to use another distro | 05:20 |
| valorie | I use kdeconnect and it's lovely | 05:21 |
| nodice | okay done experiment... kubuntu sucks still... case closed | 05:21 |
| valorie | good riddance | 05:23 |
| captain_haddock | Anybody familiar with virtualbox? | 05:23 |
| valorie | I think that's the one most of us use | 05:26 |
| valorie | !info virtualbox | 05:26 |
| ubottu | virtualbox (source: virtualbox): x86 virtualization solution - base binaries. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 4.3.10-dfsg-1 (trusty), package size 15047 kB, installed size 59184 kB | 05:26 |
| valorie | !virtualbox | 05:26 |
| ubottu | Virtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox | 05:26 |
| valorie | I think I added the extension pack when I used it for testing | 05:27 |
| nescius | valorie: so, it seems that my issues were due to forgotten libsolid4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 which took me few days to track down.. | 05:36 |
| nescius | F*CK! | 05:37 |
| nescius | i feel much better now | 05:37 |
| valorie | I'm happy to hear that | 05:38 |
| nescius | valorie: greatly appreciate your help | 05:39 |
| valorie | but I don't understand why updating, then dist-upgrading, and finally, install -f didn't find that | 05:39 |
| valorie | well, all I did was commiserate with you | 05:39 |
| valorie | lol | 05:39 |
| nescius | it did found that, it was just unable to report it as the output lack useable details like conflicts and version numbers | 05:40 |
| nescius | its my fault.. playing with ppa when i dont feel like fixing it aferwards.. | 05:41 |
| valorie | :( | 05:43 |
| Num83rGuy | If I choose full disk install will the installer preserve my current home folder contents? | 05:50 |
| valorie | no | 05:51 |
| valorie | you have to choose to set aside your /home | 05:51 |
| Num83rGuy | OK, thanks. | 05:52 |
| valorie | it's an excellent idea to do so, btw | 05:53 |
| valorie | google a bit, there is lots of info about how best to do so | 05:53 |
| Num83rGuy | Need to do a reinstall, install another OS, and rework my partitions but, I really don't have the space to juggle all of it around without it becoming a fustercluck. | 05:55 |
| Num83rGuy | Was hoping for an easer way.(c) | 05:55 |
| valorie | hd space is pretty cheap these days | 05:55 |
| * valorie is no good at juggling | 05:56 | |
| Num83rGuy | Not when you are as broke as I am. LOL. Sigh, more surveys for spare change it is then. | 05:56 |
| valorie | SSDs are still somewhat spendy | 05:57 |
| valorie | but HDs? | 05:57 |
| Num83rGuy | Ya, too rich by far. | 05:57 |
| valorie | ok | 05:57 |
| Num83rGuy | Well I might be able to get the funds in a month or two. | 05:58 |
| valorie | Num83rGuy: couldn't you just install the other OS in a VM? | 06:01 |
| valorie | then you don't have to mess with your partitions | 06:01 |
| valorie | just use what you have | 06:01 |
| valorie | or just upgrade, which is what I did | 06:01 |
| Num83rGuy | Vm is a no go I only have 3 GiB RAM and need at least 2 for the other OS. | 06:01 |
| valorie | ok | 06:02 |
| Num83rGuy | I was supposed to up grade but, other things came up. :( | 06:02 |
| valorie | do you have an old HD around for that other OS to be on? | 06:02 |
| valorie | what is keeping you from upgrading now? | 06:03 |
| valorie | it takes some time, but just start it before you go out or to bed or something | 06:03 |
| Num83rGuy | I have (1) SATA 1TiB, 4 partitions - (1) SATA 150GiB 1 part - (1) PATA 300GiB 1 part - (1) 80GiB 1 part and verry little space among them. It can be done but it's not going to be fun. | 06:05 |
| valorie | I'd have to diagram that all out, i think | 06:05 |
| rowlode | Hi, happy easter! the last 2 days i ugraded 8 systems to 14.04. vm guests and laptop worked like a charm. Nice job done! However, i'm having a real pain with my desktop (amd fx 8 core cpu, 32 gb ram and 4 ssd harddrives): kubuntu stops booting 10 out of 11 attempts right after ssd detection after about 23 seconds. Ideas? Is it a bug? If so where and how to report? | 06:06 |
| valorie | I use filelight every once in awhile to see if there is unknown crap bollixing up space | 06:06 |
| valorie | I found some old .kde folders today that were *huge* | 06:06 |
| Num83rGuy | A lot of blender renderings, documents, music, video, My Steam libary that I don't want to spend 6 months to redownload. :D | 06:06 |
| valorie | and a bunch of old ISOs i could dump | 06:07 |
| Num83rGuy | Yeah I have been on a cleaning spree too. | 06:07 |
| valorie | turned out I didn't really *need* the room, but I seed all the *buntu ISOs, and that takes a bit of room | 06:07 |
| rowlode | Can anyone help with boot time problem? | 06:11 |
| valorie | rowlode: state your problem, and if someone can help, they will | 06:13 |
| Num83rGuy | rowlode: Sorry, I Have no experence with SSD drives. Perhaps booting into recovery mode will give you the information you need to find an answer. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode | 06:13 |
| Num83rGuy | Look for messages about read or write errors and do a drive check when you get to the menu. | 06:15 |
| rowlode | Boot in recovery fails. Its where i realized when it stops booting | 06:15 |
| Num83rGuy | Ah, then I am clueless. Sorry. | 06:15 |
| rowlode | Once it actually boots i checked the logs on the previous boots but there are no errors. booting just freezes. | 06:16 |
| valorie | have you encountered this before? | 06:17 |
| Num83rGuy | Well one person said they had to disable IDE support in BIOS to boot from SSD but, most motherboards don't have IDE these days. | 06:17 |
| valorie | I boot from SSD | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Good morning. | 06:18 |
| valorie | but I bought my son's computer with that already set up | 06:18 |
| valorie | morning, lordievader | 06:18 |
| rowlode | Yes, since 13.04 with my old desktop hardware (amd 6 core cpu, 32 gb ram, same ssds) | 06:18 |
| lordievader | Hey valorie, how are you? | 06:18 |
| valorie | good! and you? | 06:19 |
| valorie | rowlode: could your ssd have failed? | 06:19 |
| valorie | I heard that when they go, it is a sudden death | 06:19 |
| rowlode | Well my corsair ssds are on sata ports, however in bios the mode is auto, so i'm gonna check this | 06:20 |
| lordievader | valorie: Doing good. Got this dualboot almost the way I want it :) | 06:20 |
| rowlode | Yeah, i thought about that, already | 06:20 |
| valorie | dual-booting what and what, lordievader? | 06:20 |
| valorie | rowlode: if so, you could put / and /boot onto your other disk, right? | 06:20 |
| rowlode | With 13.10, i could boot every 5th time, now every 10th, so i'm expected rather a linux problem than failing ssds | 06:22 |
| rowlode | i can't right now, as each disk is already one of those mount points | 06:22 |
| valorie | that doesn't sound like a software problem to me.... | 06:22 |
| silv3r_m00n | hi there | 06:22 |
| rowlode | Ok | 06:23 |
| lordievader | o/ | 06:23 |
| silv3r_m00n | while booting, the screen with kubuntu + 5 dots that comes up, its resolution is not correct, how do i fix it ? it happened after installing the nvidia drivers | 06:23 |
| valorie | is it possible you have a bad copy of grub2 in some of these mount points? | 06:23 |
| valorie | something which wasn't upgraded with the rest? | 06:23 |
| rowlode | So i might have to buy an old style hdd and see if the problem goes away | 06:23 |
| valorie | i would do grub-repair first | 06:24 |
| valorie | and see if that's it | 06:24 |
| valorie | !grub-repair | 06:24 |
| valorie | fine then | 06:24 |
| rowlode | not sure. Grub-repair is a cmd? | 06:24 |
| valorie | !grub | 06:24 |
| ubottu | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 06:24 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: You probably cannot fix that. I think it has to do with when the drivers are loaded. Basic functionality (read low res) is usually possible, if higher is wanted the driver should be loaded. | 06:25 |
| rowlode | But the problem comes way after grub | 06:25 |
| rowlode | It's hard to see a connection | 06:25 |
| valorie | silv3r_m00n: did you try xrandr though? | 06:25 |
| valorie | rowlode: I see your point | 06:25 |
| lordievader | rowlode: So where does it crash/hang? | 06:25 |
| silv3r_m00n | lordievader: the grub screen resolution is also very low after adding nvidia card | 06:25 |
| silv3r_m00n | valorie: xrandr ? | 06:26 |
| valorie | !xrandr | 06:26 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 06:26 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: Here it jumps back to text mode plymouth after installing the driver ;) | 06:26 |
| valorie | pff, it's not just for dual screens | 06:26 |
| lordievader | valorie: Hihi, X is way later ;) | 06:26 |
| rowlode | After about 23 sec. linux detects a real time clock, then usb devices, then sda, sdb, sdc, sdd and freeze | 06:26 |
| valorie | that's not a good info for xrandr | 06:26 |
| lordievader | rowlode: Hmm, allways on the disks? | 06:27 |
| rowlode | Yes | 06:27 |
| lordievader | fsck + smart checks ;) | 06:27 |
| silv3r_m00n | valorie: this is the output of my xrandr, http://pastie.org/9096849 | 06:28 |
| rowlode | lordievader: On 13.10 it was very rare that it stopped right after rtc or mice (< 1% of boot freeze cases) | 06:28 |
| lordievader | rowlode: Still it is a good idea to do the checks I've suggested, you might just have a bad disk on your hands. | 06:29 |
| silv3r_m00n | so it can't be fixed ? | 06:30 |
| valorie | lordievader should look at that, he said NO | 06:31 |
| valorie | :-) | 06:31 |
| rowlode | Yes, thanks for your hints lordievader and valorie. I'm gonna check them next time i ned to bootand it fails again. Until then: never stop a running system ;-) | 06:31 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: Probably not. | 06:31 |
| valorie | good luck, rowlode | 06:32 |
| valorie | pff, too slow | 06:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | ok | 06:32 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: It might be (very unlikely) that you can recompile the kernel with the driver included instead of a module. But this is unlikely and not supported here. | 06:32 |
| silv3r_m00n | an nvidia welcome screen comes after the kubuntu 5 dot screen, so this means that nvidia drivers are loaded after that ? | 06:32 |
| lordievader | Hmm, fsck and smart can usually be done on a running system.... | 06:32 |
| valorie | silv3r_m00n: you might ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 06:32 |
| valorie | they might have a patch for you to test | 06:33 |
| valorie | really nice folks in there | 06:33 |
| lordievader | I suppose, don't really know the nvidia drivers. | 06:33 |
| valorie | in kubuntu we don't mess with the kernel | 06:33 |
| valorie | but they fixed my sound once a couple of years ago | 06:33 |
| * lordievader wonders if Kubuntu would boot his 3.15-rc1 kernel. | 06:34 | |
| silv3r_m00n | can gpu performance be effected by the desktop env ? either kde or cinnamon ? i have quadcore+8gram + geforce 210 on 2 machines, the machine with linux mint cinnamon had better graphics rendering compared to this kubuntu machine | 06:37 |
| jaik | hi | 06:50 |
| jaik | question... | 06:50 |
| jaik | I just jumped from kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04 | 06:51 |
| valorie | did the upgrade go well? | 06:51 |
| jaik | and noticed that the display settings chanded a lot | 06:51 |
| jaik | actually I still have 12.04 | 06:52 |
| jaik | I have two partitions for installing | 06:52 |
| jaik | one I use it for regular use and the other for testing | 06:52 |
| jaik | actually Im doing a test run | 06:52 |
| jaik | any who... | 06:53 |
| jaik | on 12.04 when I connect an external display | 06:53 |
| jaik | it would automatically popup a dialog with a question if I wanted to automatically config my dual monitor | 06:55 |
| jaik | dont see that anymore | 06:55 |
| jaik | so I went straigt to the display settings | 06:55 |
| valorie | now there is kscreen | 06:55 |
| jaik | and everything is changed | 06:55 |
| valorie | by "everything" not sure what you mean | 06:55 |
| jaik | long sroty short | 06:56 |
| jaik | cant find how to mirror my display | 06:56 |
| jaik | before it was real easy | 06:56 |
| valorie | well, I feel very ignorant -- I don't know what you mean by "mirror the display" either | 06:57 |
| valorie | hopefully someone who knows more will speak up | 06:58 |
| jaik | o to display same image on both displays | 06:59 |
| jaik | before I would just select an option | 07:00 |
| jaik | I think it was something like "make displays the same size" | 07:00 |
| jaik | and by clicking that it would find the best resolution for both displays to show the same thing on both of them | 07:01 |
| valorie | you might check out xrandr | 07:01 |
| jaik | but on 14.04 I only see a screen that show both my displays | 07:02 |
| valorie | !xrandr | 07:02 |
| ubottu | XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 | 07:02 |
| jaik | oh ok | 07:02 |
| jaik | let me check it out | 07:02 |
| silv3r_m00n | does compiz work with kubuntu ? | 07:03 |
| valorie | !info compiz | 07:03 |
| ubottu | compiz (source: compiz): OpenGL window and compositing manager. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.9.11+14.04.20140409-0ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 126 kB | 07:03 |
| valorie | if it's packaged, it can be used | 07:03 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | sweet | 07:04 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | so you can get all kinds of fancy 3d desktop effects in kubuntu too i'm guessing ? | 07:04 |
| valorie | in kwin it's built in, yes | 07:04 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | and non 3d wobbly windows etc | 07:04 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | valorie: good news ;) | 07:04 |
| valorie | if you computer can render the stuff | 07:04 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | yeah should be able to | 07:05 |
| valorie | systemsettings | 07:05 |
| valorie | go wild | 07:05 |
| lordievader | jaik: Just drag the two screen on top of eachother for mirror. | 07:05 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: There is no need for compiz, we got kwin :D | 07:05 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | yeah i think you can just use the built in kwin, without installing compiz | 07:05 |
| silv3r_m00n | lordievader: yeah kwin is working fine, i hope its using my graphics card for the job | 07:06 |
| jaik | lordievader: tried it and it did something real funky | 07:06 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: You can check, system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced -> compositing type. | 07:07 |
| jaik | it compacted the image from desktops | 07:08 |
| lordievader | jaik: It will match the resolution, is that what you mean? | 07:08 |
| jaik | yes thats what I want | 07:08 |
| jaik | for it to match both resolutions | 07:08 |
| silv3r_m00n | lordievader: compositing type is opengl 2.0 and opengl renderer is the nvidia driver, so i guess its working | 07:08 |
| jaik | but when I tried draging my secondary display to my prmary display | 07:09 |
| jaik | it showed a distorioned imaged with what seemed to be both desktops on each display | 07:09 |
| lordievader | silv3r_m00n: Jup :) | 07:09 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | both monitors have the same native resolution jaik? | 07:10 |
| lordievader | jaik: Hmm, that is strange. Unfortunatly I don't have a multimonitor setup here to see if I get the same behaviour. | 07:10 |
| jaik | cr45h0v3r1d3: no | 07:10 |
| jaik | but that the thing | 07:10 |
| jaik | on verision 12.04 i would select to make both resolutions the same | 07:11 |
| jaik | and after clicking apply it would reduce resolutions on both displays to the highest compatibe dislay for both | 07:12 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | yeah | 07:12 |
| jaik | but on this new version I dont see nothing like that. I assumed that by draging one display on top of the other that would do the trick but it did what I described earlier | 07:13 |
| jaik | like a distorted split screen on both my laptop and my tv | 07:14 |
| cr45h0v3r1d3 | maybe you can manually do it in the settings somewhere | 07:15 |
| lordievader | jaik: Can you give the output of the command "xrandr"? | 07:19 |
| lordievader | !pastebin | jaik | 07:19 |
| ubottu | jaik: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. | 07:19 |
| jaik | sure | 07:19 |
| jaik | let me hook up both my displays | 07:20 |
| jaik | lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297391/ | 07:25 |
| lordievader | jaik: What happens when you first set both to 1360x768 and then mirror them? | 07:26 |
| captain_haddock | valorie: Still around? | 07:27 |
| valorie | yes | 07:27 |
| captain_haddock | valorie: re:virtualbox, I'm having trouble accessing my USB from within an XP guest | 07:27 |
| valorie | I assume by XP you mean windows | 07:28 |
| valorie | I've never done that, sorry | 07:28 |
| valorie | there may be others who use VMs a lot more than me | 07:29 |
| jaik | lordievader: have not tried that let me see. this is actually a different tv than the one I used earlier on this one it just takes the highest resolution and displays same image on both. But since my laptop renders a smaller resolution I only see portion of the display | 07:29 |
| jaik | lordievader: cant change my tv res http://imagebin.org/306722 | 07:34 |
| lordievader | Try xrandr ;) | 07:35 |
| jaik | will do thx | 07:37 |
| captain_haddock | valorie: No worries. Thanks :) | 07:39 |
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| jaik | lordievader: did it. used this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297457/ | 07:48 |
| jaik | thx | 07:49 |
| jaik | Ill just make a little script to do this. I use my laptop a lot with xbmc :p | 07:49 |
| lordievader | jaik: Jup that'll work ;) You can just throw the command in your xinit. | 07:53 |
| jaik | me again... wondering if ther is a way for me to automatically run this command when I plug in my hdmi cable? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297457/ | 07:58 |
| MoonUnit` | maybe with sec 'simple event correlator' it watches logs and can exec a command when it see's a matching pattern. | 08:08 |
| MoonUnit` | http://simple-evcorr.sourceforge.net/man.html | 08:08 |
| jaik | I actually found something that might work... https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=96537 | 08:13 |
| mrub | hello everyone! yesterday i upgraded to 14.04 and now i get an kwallet error code 42 and cannot access my wallet. so far, i have not found a comprehensive list of kwallet errors. can anyone point me to such a list and or tell me what goes wrong? | 09:04 |
| Quintasan | mrub: I think people in #kde-devel might know more | 09:21 |
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| BluesKaj | 'Morning folks | 10:07 |
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| tester1337 | hello, I got a question about kubuntu I was hoping someone can help me with? | 11:17 |
| tester1337 | so currently I got a dual boot system windows 7 and Ubuntu. I am wondering if I want to install kUbuntu do I just have to overwrite the ubuntu install or do I need to do the whole grub restore thing aswell before that | 11:18 |
| lordievader | tester1337: You can simply install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package on your Ubuntu machine to have Kubuntu :) | 11:24 |
| mrub_ | Quintasan: thank you | 14:03 |
| rvraghav93 | Why does "Show in folder" of downloads when opened via the Download tab of chrome open via konquerer rather than dolphin ? | 14:36 |
| rvraghav93 | this changed behaviour was after upgrading to 14 | 14:37 |
| rvraghav93 | Any suggestions to change it back to dolphin? | 14:37 |
| snele | rvraghav93: go to system settings>default applications and choose dolphin for default file manager | 14:38 |
| rvraghav93 | snele: thanks :) | 14:38 |
| rcw2 | yes, chrome may have an audio issue. maybe i should reinstall it | 14:42 |
| vistakiller | hello i have just upgrade my system and is an excellent version but i am little confused with popup notifications | 14:55 |
| vistakiller | is not appear good | 14:55 |
| vistakiller | is there anyway to change them? | 14:55 |
| prillian5 | hi | 15:01 |
| DJ_Unibob | Sigh, upgrading to 14.04 broke my system, stuck at 1024x768 on my primary display and my secondary display refuses to work. | 15:01 |
| prillian5 | can i switch from a non LTS to LTS version? | 15:01 |
| vistakiller | prillian5 yes | 15:02 |
| genii_ | prillian5: You can go for instance from 13.10 to 14.04, yes | 15:02 |
| vistakiller | DJ try to reinstall gpu card drivers | 15:02 |
| vistakiller | anyone know why i have a plasma popup in the left up corner for notifications? | 15:03 |
| prillian5 | k, cause i've read before that this is not possible in each circumstances | 15:03 |
| DJ_Unibob | ALright. I'll try that, how would I go about finding the propreitery drivers program? | 15:04 |
| prillian5 | but btw. i read before 10 seconds, that openoffice is back in kubuntu ?! | 15:04 |
| genii_ | prillian5: If you are running for instance 13.04 then likely you need to go 13.04->13.10->14.04 | 15:04 |
| prillian5 | not libre anymore? | 15:04 |
| prillian5 | ah sorry, i was wrong | 15:05 |
| prillian5 | see, libre is still in use. | 15:05 |
| vistakiller | DJ what gpu you have? | 15:05 |
| DJ_Unibob | eVga 8800 GTS 640 mb | 15:06 |
| vistakiller | there is a progamme in system for gpu drivers | 15:07 |
| DJ_Unibob | which is nVidia, if you were unsure. :) | 15:07 |
| vistakiller | use it and install them | 15:07 |
| DJ_Unibob | Not for my linux partition, no. | 15:07 |
| vistakiller | 333.38 is in the repositories | 15:07 |
| vistakiller | give in a treminal | 15:08 |
| vistakiller | glxinfo | 15:08 |
| vistakiller | and take a look what driver you use | 15:08 |
| prillian5 | is there a overview what changed for 14.04 | 15:08 |
| DJ_Unibob | at least I haven't found it anyway, I do see the 333.38 in the repositories, but it shows them as already running, but doesn't seem to make a difference. | 15:08 |
| prillian5 | from 13.10 | 15:08 |
| DJ_Unibob | telling me a system restart is needed, hopefully this will work, I'll brb. | 15:10 |
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| vistakiller | prillian5 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04 | 15:11 |
| vistakiller | can anyone ping my name to see notifications? | 15:12 |
| prillian5 | [~spiros@94.71.217.157] [17:13] == realname : purple [17:13] == channels : #kubuntu [17:13] == server : hitchcock.freenode.net [Sofia, BG, EU] [17:13] == End of WHOIS | 15:14 |
| DJ_Unibob | That fixed the display issue. :) | 15:14 |
| vistakiller | how can i get off the plasma notification in the left upper corner? | 15:15 |
| DJ_Unibob | I disabled the quiet boot and there were quite a few things that had a status of [fail] during the boot. | 15:16 |
| prillian5 | some nice improvements | 15:16 |
| DJ_Unibob | I'm now going to see if I can boot into the ubuntu desktop, that was failing before, though I could boot into KDE | 15:17 |
| prillian5 | btw. big praise to KDE. Have to used gnome some weeks ago. Result: I still not like it. I love KDE | 15:17 |
| Shaan7 | prillian5: thanks :D | 15:19 |
| prillian5 | the new networkmanager is also really nice | 15:20 |
| vistakiller | anyone know about notifications? why i have a plasma notification appart from tray in the left up corner? | 15:22 |
| vistakiller | anyone else has this? | 15:22 |
| MoonUnit` | vistakiller, do you have an extra notification widget on the screen? | 15:30 |
| vistakiller | yes but i dont remember to install it | 15:30 |
| vistakiller | is in the up left corner and it dont have tools to delete it or to erase it | 15:31 |
| vistakiller | is just a plasma icon that popup and stay there | 15:31 |
| vistakiller | anyone else has this? | 15:31 |
| vistakiller | notify-osd is a native kubuntu package? | 15:33 |
| MoonUnit` | vistakiller, maintainer is DX Team <dx-team@lists.ubuntu.com> , i don't have it installed on mine | 15:35 |
| vistakiller | MoonUnit do you have this in you system? the upcorner plasma? | 15:35 |
| MoonUnit` | only notifications i have are from the notification widget in the system tray. | 15:37 |
| vistakiller | strange then how they get there.. :P | 15:37 |
| vistakiller | is an upgrade system | 15:38 |
| vistakiller | time for a restart | 15:38 |
| vistakiller | i think i have found it | 15:40 |
| vistakiller | is from pidgin :P | 15:41 |
| MoonUnit` | hah i have pidgin notifications disabled | 15:41 |
| Shaan7 | just use kde telepathy :) | 15:41 |
| prillian5 | #is-AO+13/4ab! | 15:42 |
| vistakiller | i use pidgin 6 years now.. | 15:43 |
| vistakiller | maybe more | 15:43 |
| prillian5 | i also have used pidgin many years, and it is great application. But now i use telepathy and konversation | 15:44 |
| prillian5 | i like the integration of telepathy in main OS, and there is nothing i miss at the moment, but a good irc integration, cause of this i use konversation | 15:45 |
| vistakiller | i dont know how to add irc to telepathy | 15:46 |
| prillian5 | vistakiller: me too, cause of this i use konversation ( don't like quassel ) | 15:48 |
| prillian5 | konversation is better for irc than pidgin | 15:48 |
| prillian5 | and the only downside is, that irc and messenger is not still in the same programm (like in pidgin before), but the upside is, not so much gnome-packeges need to be installed anymore (for pidgin) | 15:49 |
| prillian5 | hope voip will work soon in telepathy. | 15:52 |
| vistakiller | now i lost thunderbird new email notification | 15:54 |
| vistakiller | i dont know how i get this to work with kde notification | 15:54 |
| vistakiller | i dont remember | 15:54 |
| prillian5 | vistakiller: better use kmail | 16:05 |
| prillian5 | its really great | 16:05 |
| prillian5 | switched before 2 years to kmail. great groupware | 16:05 |
| vistakiller | i use kmail for dapper but i stop use it three years now after an upgrade that break everything | 16:05 |
| prillian5 | i know this dark time of kmail, but trust me, those times are gone | 16:06 |
| vistakiller | i will give a try | 16:06 |
| vistakiller | i was once a loyal kmail user :P | 16:07 |
| prillian5 | i even hate kmail in those times and also switched to thunderbird. But till 2 years it is solid like in KDE3 | 16:07 |
| prillian5 | The devs done a good job and the desktop integration is also really good. | 16:07 |
| prillian5 | k, i'm out now | 16:08 |
| vistakiller | ok bye :) | 16:08 |
| prillian5 | barbecue time :D | 16:08 |
| vistakiller | is there a bitcoin plasma widget? | 16:08 |
| MoonUnit` | seems to be 4 | 16:14 |
| Krise | hi, need some help | 16:15 |
| genii | !details | Krise | 16:16 |
| ubottu | Krise: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) | 16:16 |
| Krise | how can i enable mobile broadband? | 16:16 |
| Krise | i can see enable wireless and enable networking but no enable mobile broadband | 16:16 |
| Krise | anybody? | 16:17 |
| DJ_Unibob | Thanks guys, everything seems to be back in order, much appreciated. | 16:17 |
| genii | Krise: What sort of device are you using to connect to the mobile broadband? eg: tethering your phone, internal mPCIe card like Gobi, external USB device like LTE RocketStick, etc | 16:19 |
| Krise | i have Huawei internet stick | 16:19 |
| Krise | i did make new connection in network manager but still nothing | 16:20 |
| genii | Krise: Sometimes firmware for the device must be downloaded and placed in /lib/firmware/ directory. Other times special instructions may be needed. Please unplug the stick, wait 5 seconds and then re-plug it in, and then please use the pastebin service to put the results of: dmesg|tail so that we can determine the exact device codes for it | 16:23 |
| Krise | ok, dont go anywhere genii, i have to disconnect this computer and plug it in to my kubuntu laptop | 16:25 |
| genii | Krise: I'm here for at least the next 4 1/2 hours :) | 16:28 |
| Krise | good | 16:28 |
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| scrollice | hiii | 16:42 |
| Krise | genii | 17:12 |
| Krise | http://paste.kde.org/pd8mbxm5x | 17:12 |
| lordievader | Good evening. | 17:12 |
| genii | Krise: Reading | 17:13 |
| Krise | thank u genii | 17:13 |
| vistakiller | after three years away from kmail i think is still very confusing | 17:14 |
| vistakiller | to much option nothing clear what to do | 17:14 |
| genii | Krise: Do you have the package "usb-modeswitch" installed? | 17:15 |
| Krise | im not sure, | 17:16 |
| Krise | and i can not doo that without geting my int.stick work | 17:17 |
| Strav | He. I'm having some troubles in getting pulseaudio to recognize my usb headset. I set the log level to 3 and here is the syslog when I try to plug the headset: http://pastebin.com/YnArhuLw (note, the headset is recognized when I boot or if I reset pulse audio but this messes with phonon and I'd rather avoid having to reset pulse each time) Any suggestion on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated :) | 17:18 |
| genii | Krise: You have no wired connection nearby to plug directly into, or a regular wifi? | 17:18 |
| genii | Krise: What says the result of: apt-cache policy usb-modeswitch ..? | 17:18 |
| vistakiller | anyone work with kmail? | 17:18 |
| Krise | one sec genii | 17:18 |
| vistakiller | how can i add two account to one incoming folder? | 17:19 |
| Krise | genii it says installed : 1.2.3 +repack0- lubuntu3 | 17:20 |
| genii | Krise: OK. That's good, actually. | 17:20 |
| Krise | good | 17:21 |
| Krise | i like good | 17:21 |
| lordievader | :) | 17:21 |
| Strav | vistakiller: I'd be interested to know too. | 17:23 |
| vistakiller | can i merge two accounts in kmail? | 17:24 |
| vistakiller | in one folder? | 17:24 |
| vistakiller | there are 100 option in kmail and there is no simple option to merge the folders :P | 17:24 |
| vistakiller | why they dont keep simple? | 17:24 |
| tadh | does anyone know how to actually un-install baloo ? I really do not need my cpu pegged all the time | 17:25 |
| genii | What says the result of command: grep -n Huawei /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules | grep 1506 (please type it carefully to be exact with uppercase H in Huawei for instance) | 17:26 |
| tadh | also why was baloo even shipped on by default. can't kde ask before turning this stuff on? | 17:26 |
| Strav | tadh: once the indexing is done, baloo should keep quiet most of the time (at least this is what I experience) | 17:26 |
| tadh | I mean it should ask what to index | 17:26 |
| tadh | not blow through 500gb home dir | 17:27 |
| tadh | with plain text datafiles which are 10s of GB | 17:27 |
| * genii slides BluesKaj a fresh coffee | 17:28 | |
| tadh | :sigh: this nepomunk stuff is always frustrating | 17:28 |
| Shaan7 | tadh: http://vhanda.in/blog/2014/04/desktop-search-configuration/ | 17:28 |
| BluesKaj | thanks genii :) | 17:29 |
| vistakiller | no luck with merging account folders | 17:29 |
| tadh | yeah i saw that. I did that and it didn't work | 17:29 |
| vistakiller | this kmail is very confusing | 17:29 |
| tadh | i ended up doing the hack where I moved the binaries | 17:29 |
| tadh | i was hoping for a better solution | 17:29 |
| vistakiller | i will stay with thunderbird | 17:29 |
| genii | Krise: No result for the grep command I gave ? | 17:30 |
| Krise | genii, do i have to plug styick in ? | 17:30 |
| genii | Krise: Not for that | 17:30 |
| Krise | ok | 17:30 |
| Krise | Hold on genii i paste this to pastebin | 17:31 |
| * genii makes more coffee | 17:31 | |
| Krise | genii here is something to read when drinking cofee http://paste.kde.org/p8ojlz9ii | 17:35 |
| genii | Krise: You forgot the | (pipe) part before the "grep 1506" :) Can you please re-issue the command? | 17:38 |
| Krise | ok | 17:38 |
| Krise | sorry | 17:38 |
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| genii | Krise:Actually, my sorry.... the part we want to look for is not on the same line as the manufacturer name... please use instead: grep -n 12d1 /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules| grep 1506 ( where here the 12d1 is for Huawei and 1506 is the specific device we want) | 17:43 |
| genii | ( the command may give no result, in which case we then need to add it manually) | 17:47 |
| Programmer_ | anyone having issues with chromium syncing tabs between phone and desktop correctly since the 14.04 update? | 17:59 |
| vistakiller | in chrome that work without problems | 18:04 |
| Programmer_ | Anyone know how to stop Krunner automatically launching if I start typing on the desktop? kinda annoying which I start typing thinking im typing into a window that just popped up? I'm on 14.04 btw. | 18:04 |
| Programmer_ | vistakiller, Im having issues with it | 18:05 |
| Programmer_ | Anyone know how to stop Krunner automatically launching if I start typing on the desktop? kinda annoying which I start typing thinking im typing into a window that just popped up? I'm on 14.04 btw. | 18:05 |
| Programmer_ | oops | 18:05 |
| vistakiller | where you typing this? | 18:05 |
| vistakiller | for krunner? | 18:06 |
| Programmer_ | like on the desktop | 18:06 |
| vistakiller | krunner pop without opening it? | 18:06 |
| Programmer_ | yeah | 18:06 |
| Programmer_ | w/o pressing alt+F2 | 18:06 |
| vistakiller | in my system work like before but i am in upgrade system | 18:06 |
| Ashareth | it's not a 14.02 problem | 18:07 |
| Programmer_ | hmmmm | 18:07 |
| Ashareth | it does the same to me on 13.x | 18:07 |
| Programmer_ | interesting | 18:07 |
| vistakiller | i dont have it in 13.x | 18:07 |
| Ashareth | and i understand how it can be annoying :p | 18:07 |
| Programmer_ | didnt do it for me on 13.10 | 18:07 |
| Programmer_ | so no one knows how to fix it? | 18:09 |
| Programmer_ | what about the "new" builtin synaptics? | 18:09 |
| Programmer_ | my touchpad still moves when im typing | 18:09 |
| Programmer_ | that has to be a 14.04 issue | 18:09 |
| Programmer_ | and the ibus thing keeps freezing my keyboard unless i close it | 18:10 |
| Programmer_ | just highlight if you can help | 18:11 |
| vistakiller | i am in desktop and i dont have any of that problems | 18:13 |
| Programmer_ | dammit | 18:13 |
| vistakiller | there is no option for touchpad to disable moving? | 18:18 |
| Programmer_ | in the settings | 18:19 |
| Programmer_ | i could try reinstall synaptics, but meh | 18:19 |
| vistakiller | i see that is not installed and for me | 18:19 |
| vistakiller | it says synaptics driver is not installed | 18:19 |
| vistakiller | but i am in desktop... | 18:20 |
| Programmer_ | im in desktop | 18:20 |
| Programmer_ | well laptop. same thing | 18:20 |
| mike | Sysinfo for 'mike-HP-ProBook-4430s': Linux 3.2.0-60-generic running , CPU: Intel(R)Corei3-2330MCPU@2.20GHz at 800 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 3/48GB, RAM: 1806/7920MB, 129 proc's, 16.0min up | 19:12 |
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| * genii sips his coffee and wonders what that was all about | 19:14 | |
| lordievader | Are we sharing uname -a output? | 19:15 |
| ifohancroft | Hello. Is there any known issue with the recommended proprietary driver for NVIDIA (331.38) in Kubuntu 14.04 i686? | 19:48 |
| ifohancroft | In other words: I am using NVIDIA GeForce G210M (GT218M) and when I choose that driver from the Driver Manager in System settings, it's almost impossible to login | 20:00 |
| ifohancroft | I get login loop or tons of graphic glithes | 20:00 |
| ifohancroft | glitches* | 20:00 |
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| bennypr0fane_ | guys, how can I make Quassel keep logs of all my chats? | 20:45 |
| ifohancroft | bennypr0fane_: I think you would get more help if you'd ask in #quassel | 20:52 |
| bennypr0fane_ | ifohancroft: ok, thakns, will do | 20:53 |
| ifohancroft | you're welcome | 20:53 |
| D353R7F0X_ | Has anyone had problems with the proprietary nvidia drivers after updating to 14.04 64bit? | 21:02 |
| lordievader | D353R7F0X_: Got the 304 running here. No problems yet. | 21:07 |
| D353R7F0X_ | cool thanks | 21:08 |
| andy64 | hi | 21:27 |
| lordievader | o/ | 21:28 |
| pedro__ | hola | 22:02 |
| bprompt | !es | pedro__ | 22:03 |
| ubottu | pedro__: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro. | 22:03 |
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