[00:25] <Linusnewb> hi anyone here who can help?
[00:27] <Linusnewb> I have upgraded to kubuntu 14.04 but I have some errors
[00:35] <roney> what problems are you having?
[00:42] <nescius> good morning, afternoon, night..
[00:43] <nescius> can you help me with repository issue? i want to know whether there are kontact related packages in 14.04 web repositories
[00:43] <nescius> i am struggling with this issue since friday as i am trying to update via web
[00:48] <nescius> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kate/?C=M;O=A
[00:48] <nescius> why is there a newer kate package for 13.10 than for 14.04 ?
[01:16] <valorie> nescius: please file a bug on launchpad; if there is an newer version indeed something was overlooked in the release
[01:16] <valorie> I think you can use `ubuntu-bug kate`
[01:44] <nescius> valorie: thats cool! doing it right now
[01:44] <nescius> btw do you run 14.04?
[01:55] <valorie> nescius: I've been running it since beta1
[01:55] <valorie> smooth as silk
[01:55] <valorie> that ubuntu-bug command really helps when you are testing
[02:00] <nescius> thanks, its really helpful, however in meantime i found a newer version of kate in universe
[02:00] <nescius> which does not work while trying to update to the 14.04.. for some reason
[02:01] <valorie> def. a packaging bug then
[02:01] <valorie> I assume someone overlooked the version number
[02:02] <valorie> or uploaded a wrongly-versioned file
[02:02] <valorie> Stuff Happens [tm]
[03:49] <Ekush3y> Why Konversation was replaced by Quassel as the default IRC client?
[03:50] <valorie> Ekush3y: that happened years ago when Konvi wasn't ready for the release
[03:50] <valorie> and we never changed back
[03:51] <valorie> I prefer and use konvi, but understand that stability is important too
[03:52] <valorie> I wish we had never felt it necessary to change, because I <3 Konvi
[04:02] <Ekush3y> hi Valorie
[04:04] <Ekush3y> I haven't tried a fresh installation of Kubuntu in a long time, i've been upgrading in the last few years after every release.
[04:04] <valorie> same here
[04:05] <Ekush3y> Yesterday I used the 14.04 live CD to install at a friend's computer and realized there is no Konversation. How is life without Konversation? I've always used it and nothing compares to it. :)
[04:06] <valorie> it is easily installable
[04:06] <valorie> just not provided on the ISO
[04:06] <Ekush3y> So is this Quassel a part of the KDE suit? Or does it come with Ubuntu only?
[04:07] <valorie> it is a Qt application
[04:07] <valorie> I don't know if other KDE distros provide it by default
[04:07] <Ekush3y> Wow
[04:07] <Ekush3y> That's surprising
[04:07] <valorie> what's surprising?
[04:09] <Ekush3y> Nevermind, I've to run now... thanks for your time valorie
[04:09] <Ekush3y> Bye...
[04:39] <nescius> do you know how to get details from apt? i am trying to get kate to install, it takes all its dependencies and then rejects to install as there is some conflict, but WHAT?
[04:40] <nescius> http://paste.kde.org/p9kvz9pqu
[04:42] <valorie> nescius: did you try `sudo apt-get install -f`?
[04:42] <valorie> also, do you have any PPAs or pins that could be causing this?
[04:43] <nescius> valorie: i had, at some time, i am now trying to remove EVERYTHING
[04:43] <nescius> all ppa repos are gone now
[04:43] <nescius> i tried the -f with no difference
[04:44] <nescius> http://paste.kde.org/pmdx0jjwq
[04:44] <valorie> just -f, no kate
[04:45] <valorie> that makes it try to fix all dependencies
[04:45] <nescius> nothing changed
[04:45] <valorie> :(
[04:45] <valorie> this is in 14.04, correct?
[04:45] <nescius> this is saucy now
[04:46] <nescius> i have same issues with the 'trusty'
[04:46] <captain_haddock> nescius: Try aptitude instead of apt
[04:46] <nescius> i have saucy repos, no kde packages installed..
[04:46] <captain_haddock> nescius: Try aptitude instead of apt-get*
[04:46] <nescius> captain_haddock: i tried aptitude, apt, synaptic, muon (when it was installed)
[04:47] <nescius> synaptic has some results - it sets every depencencies for kate and then selects kate itself for removal..
[04:48] <valorie> very peculiar
[04:48] <captain_haddock> nescius: What does "no kde packages installed" mean?
[04:48] <valorie> I"m sure nobody messed with saucy packages
[04:49] <nescius> captain_haddock: i removed them as packages, i only have what is opened in my current session :(
[04:49] <nescius> valorie: i am sure i messed my apt db somehow
[04:51] <valorie> which install -f should fix, nescius
[04:51] <valorie> if you use it exactly as i typed it above
[04:51] <valorie> nothing else
[04:51] <valorie> oh, after doing an apt-get update
[04:52] <valorie> and probably dist-upgrade as well
[04:54] <nescius> here are the results  -http://paste.kde.org/p9zh24hn3
[04:54] <nodice> kubuntu doesn't work for me - same problem as before
[04:54] <captain_haddock> nescius: perhaps you should try installing KDE properly first? (or kubuntu-desktop)
[04:54] <nodice> 13.10 and 14.04 and no change!!!!!!!!!!!
[04:55] <nodice> nescius: don't do it!
[04:55] <captain_haddock> nodice: What is the same problem as before?
[04:55] <nodice> my smartphone won't connect
[04:56] <nodice> I can connect with ubuntu and gnome
[04:56] <nodice> so, it is a kde-based issue??
[04:56] <nescius> captain_haddock: i tried what you suggested: http://paste.kde.org/pgjdi1swt
[04:57] <nodice> why would you install kde?
[04:57] <captain_haddock> nodice: smartphone?
[04:57] <nodice> yes, my htc one x
[04:57] <valorie> damn, something is seriously broken in your system, nescius
[04:58] <valorie> this is a plain saucy install, up to date, no pinning, no PPAs?
[04:58] <nescius> valorie: i know, i have the same for too long.. upgraded from the last LTS
[04:59] <captain_haddock> nescius: try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ark audiocd-kio (etc.); list all dependencies
[04:59] <nodice> so with all the smartphones out there, the kde devs didn't address the problems at all
[04:59] <nescius> nothing is pinned, there were some kde ppas before the 4.11.5
[04:59] <valorie> so you went 12.04 > 12.10 > 13.04 > 13.10 ?
[04:59] <captain_haddock> nodice: stop whining and explain your problem properly.
[05:00] <nodice> it won't open anything - aka won't mount
[05:00] <nodice> available devices shows 3 logos lol
[05:00] <captain_haddock> That is not explaining your problem properly.
[05:00] <captain_haddock> lolol
[05:00] <valorie> nodice, did you file a bug about this before?
[05:00] <nodice> yes, long ago
[05:00] <nodice> I got rid of kubuntu since it was never fixed
[05:01] <valorie> any comments or feedback on your bug report?
[05:01] <nescius> thanks for your help, this does not work, i am going to drop apt and try pacman instead, maybe it will output something tangable and usefull
[05:01] <valorie> my phone connects just fine
[05:01] <valorie> nescius: not for kubuntu!
[05:02] <valorie> that's ... arch I think
[05:02] <nodice> I am showing obvious bugs unless you think the logo of a smartphone should be displayed THREE times?!?
[05:02] <valorie> nodice, screenshot?
[05:02] <nescius> i think that it should be multiplatform, isnt it?
[05:02] <valorie> no, it is not
[05:02] <nescius> like smart or whatever the suse guys are using
[05:03] <valorie> pacman will not work in kubuntu or any debian dirivetive
[05:03] <valorie> oh geez
[05:03] <valorie> derivative
[05:03] <nescius> it does, but it is literally pacman the game
[05:03] <nescius> :D
[05:03] <valorie> we use dpgk/apt
[05:03] <valorie> ok
[05:03] <valorie> lol
[05:03] <nodice> "Unknown error code 150'
[05:04] <nodice> I/O problem
[05:04] <nodice> please send a full bug report blah, blah
[05:04] <nodice> what for?
[05:04] <valorie> right, without one, problems can't be fixed
[05:04] <nodice> the bug is ongoine - I said I filed one beforeeeeeeee
[05:05] <valorie> sure, but I don't have a bug number to check
[05:05] <nodice> it's detected as a camera
[05:05] <nodice> ubuntu with gnome detects it at least
[05:05] <valorie> cool
[05:06] <valorie> so you know you don't have a bad cable or something
[05:06] <nodice> my conclusion: kde sucks
[05:06] <valorie> !language
[05:06] <nodice> in Dolphin:  camera:   HTC HTC One (ID3)
[05:06] <valorie> ah, we have the same phone
[05:07] <nodice> HTC twice? lol
[05:08] <valorie> Available devices: Portable Media Player (Android Phone)
[05:08] <nodice> 'Open with File Manager' is shown twice too
[05:08] <valorie> in Dolphin: Android Phone
[05:08] <valorie> ah, camera is seen separately, yes
[05:08] <nodice> I guess kde detects it as 3 phones connected?  lol
[05:09] <nodice> or cameras
[05:09] <valorie> it is listed under both Media and Devices
[05:09] <nodice> I was told kde is really good now... nah
[05:09] <valorie> which is proper, I think
[05:09] <valorie> depending on what you want to access
[05:10] <valorie> so you can get your photos off without drilling down
[05:10] <valorie> I find that convenient
[05:10] <valorie> ymmv
[05:10] <nodice> whatever
[05:11] <valorie> thanks for pointing that out; I hadn't noticed before
[05:11] <nodice> it's under 'Portable Media Player' and shows 3 icons
[05:11] <nodice> beside one is Android Phone
[05:11] <valorie> and getting to Dolphin from the Camera does indeed go directly to the camera
[05:11] <valorie> nice
[05:12] <valorie> so you can go directly to your music files too
[05:12] <valorie> excellent
[05:12] <nodice> your fairy tales don't interest me
[05:12] <nodice> my smartphone comes alive and walks by itself
[05:13] <valorie> mine is crippled by Verizon
[05:13] <valorie> not so talented
[05:20] <nodice> ppl are asking how to connect this phone in the forum lol
[05:20] <nodice> good luck
[05:20] <nodice> probably have to use some workaround... easier to use another distro
[05:21] <valorie> I use kdeconnect and it's lovely
[05:21] <nodice> okay done experiment... kubuntu sucks still... case closed
[05:23] <valorie> good riddance
[05:23] <captain_haddock> Anybody familiar with virtualbox?
[05:26] <valorie> I think that's the one most of us use
[05:26] <valorie> !info virtualbox
[05:26] <valorie> !virtualbox
[05:27] <valorie> I think I added the extension pack when I used it for testing
[05:36] <nescius> valorie: so, it seems that my issues were due to forgotten libsolid4:4.11.5-0ubuntu0.1 which took me few days to track down..
[05:37] <nescius> F*CK!
[05:37] <nescius> i feel much better now
[05:38] <valorie> I'm happy to hear that
[05:39] <nescius> valorie: greatly appreciate your help
[05:39] <valorie> but I don't understand why updating, then dist-upgrading, and finally, install -f didn't find that
[05:39] <valorie> well, all I did was commiserate with you
[05:39] <valorie> lol
[05:40] <nescius> it did found that, it was just unable to report it as the output lack useable details like conflicts and version numbers
[05:41] <nescius> its my fault.. playing with ppa when i dont feel like fixing it aferwards..
[05:43] <valorie> :(
[05:50] <Num83rGuy> If I choose full disk install will the installer preserve my current home folder contents?
[05:51] <valorie> no
[05:51] <valorie> you have to choose to set aside your /home
[05:52] <Num83rGuy> OK, thanks.
[05:53] <valorie> it's an excellent idea to do so, btw
[05:53] <valorie> google a bit, there is lots of info about how best to do so
[05:55] <Num83rGuy> Need to do a reinstall, install another OS, and rework my partitions but, I really don't have the space to juggle all of it around without it becoming a fustercluck.
[05:55] <Num83rGuy> Was hoping for an easer way.(c)
[05:55] <valorie> hd space is pretty cheap these days
[05:56]  * valorie is no good at juggling
[05:56] <Num83rGuy> Not when you are as broke as I am. LOL.  Sigh, more surveys for spare change it is then.
[05:57] <valorie> SSDs are still somewhat spendy
[05:57] <valorie> but HDs?
[05:57] <Num83rGuy> Ya, too rich by far.
[05:57] <valorie> ok
[05:58] <Num83rGuy> Well I might be able to get the funds in a month or two.
[06:01] <valorie> Num83rGuy: couldn't you just install the other OS in a VM?
[06:01] <valorie> then you don't have to mess with your partitions
[06:01] <valorie> just use what you have
[06:01] <valorie> or just upgrade, which is what I did
[06:01] <Num83rGuy> Vm is a no go I only have 3 GiB RAM and need at least 2 for the other OS.
[06:02] <valorie> ok
[06:02] <Num83rGuy> I was supposed to up grade but, other things came up. :(
[06:02] <valorie> do you have an old HD around for that other OS to be on?
[06:03] <valorie> what is keeping you from upgrading now?
[06:03] <valorie> it takes some time, but just start it before you go out or to bed or something
[06:05] <Num83rGuy> I have (1) SATA 1TiB, 4 partitions  - (1) SATA 150GiB 1 part - (1) PATA 300GiB 1 part - (1) 80GiB 1 part and verry little space among them. It can be done but it's not going to be fun.
[06:05] <valorie> I'd have to diagram that all out, i think
[06:06] <rowlode> Hi, happy easter! the last 2 days i ugraded 8 systems to 14.04. vm guests and laptop worked like a charm. Nice job done! However, i'm having a real pain with my desktop (amd fx 8 core cpu, 32 gb ram and 4 ssd harddrives): kubuntu stops booting 10 out of 11 attempts right after ssd detection after about 23 seconds. Ideas? Is it a bug? If so where and how to report?
[06:06] <valorie> I use filelight every once in awhile to see if there is unknown crap bollixing up space
[06:06] <valorie> I found some old .kde folders today that were *huge*
[06:06] <Num83rGuy> A lot of blender renderings, documents, music, video, My Steam libary that I don't want to spend 6 months to redownload. :D
[06:07] <valorie> and a bunch of old ISOs i could dump
[06:07] <Num83rGuy> Yeah I have been on a cleaning spree too.
[06:07] <valorie> turned out I didn't really *need* the room, but I seed all the *buntu ISOs, and that takes a bit of room
[06:11] <rowlode> Can anyone help with boot time problem?
[06:13] <valorie> rowlode: state your problem, and if someone can help, they will
[06:13] <Num83rGuy> rowlode:  Sorry, I Have no experence with SSD drives.  Perhaps booting into recovery mode will give you the information you need to find an answer.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode
[06:15] <Num83rGuy> Look for messages about read or write errors and do a drive check when you get to the menu.
[06:15] <rowlode> Boot in recovery fails. Its where i realized when it stops booting
[06:15] <Num83rGuy> Ah, then I am clueless. Sorry.
[06:16] <rowlode> Once it actually boots i checked the logs on the previous boots but there are no errors. booting just freezes.
[06:17] <valorie> have you encountered this before?
[06:17] <Num83rGuy> Well one person said they had to disable IDE support in BIOS to boot from SSD but, most motherboards don't have IDE these days.
[06:18] <valorie> I boot from SSD
[06:18] <lordievader> Good morning.
[06:18] <valorie> but I bought my son's computer with that already set up
[06:18] <valorie> morning, lordievader
[06:18] <rowlode> Yes, since 13.04 with my old desktop hardware (amd 6 core cpu, 32 gb ram, same ssds)
[06:18] <lordievader> Hey valorie, how are you?
[06:19] <valorie> good! and you?
[06:19] <valorie> rowlode: could your ssd have failed?
[06:19] <valorie> I heard that when they go, it is a sudden death
[06:20] <rowlode> Well my corsair ssds are on sata ports, however in bios the mode is auto, so i'm gonna check this
[06:20] <lordievader> valorie: Doing good. Got this dualboot almost the way I want it :)
[06:20] <rowlode> Yeah, i thought about that, already
[06:20] <valorie> dual-booting what and what, lordievader?
[06:20] <valorie> rowlode: if so, you could put / and /boot onto your other disk, right?
[06:22] <rowlode> With 13.10, i could boot every 5th time, now every 10th, so i'm expected rather a linux problem than failing ssds
[06:22] <rowlode> i can't right now, as each disk is already one of those mount points
[06:22] <valorie> that doesn't sound like a software problem to me....
[06:22] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[06:23] <rowlode> Ok
[06:23] <lordievader> o/
[06:23] <silv3r_m00n> while booting, the screen with kubuntu + 5 dots that comes up, its resolution is not correct, how do i fix it ? it happened after installing the nvidia drivers
[06:23] <valorie> is it possible you have a bad copy of grub2 in some of these mount points?
[06:23] <valorie> something which wasn't upgraded with the rest?
[06:23] <rowlode> So i might have to buy an old style hdd and see if the problem goes away
[06:24] <valorie> i would do grub-repair first
[06:24] <valorie> and see if that's it
[06:24] <valorie> !grub-repair
[06:24] <valorie> fine then
[06:24] <rowlode> not sure. Grub-repair is a cmd?
[06:24] <valorie> !grub
[06:25] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: You probably cannot fix that. I think it has to do with when the drivers are loaded. Basic functionality (read low res) is usually possible, if higher is wanted the driver should be loaded.
[06:25] <rowlode> But the problem comes way after grub
[06:25] <rowlode> It's hard to see a connection
[06:25] <valorie> silv3r_m00n: did you try xrandr though?
[06:25] <valorie> rowlode: I see your point
[06:25] <lordievader> rowlode: So where does it crash/hang?
[06:25] <silv3r_m00n> lordievader: the grub screen resolution is also very low after adding nvidia card
[06:26] <silv3r_m00n> valorie: xrandr ?
[06:26] <valorie> !xrandr
[06:26] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: Here it jumps back to text mode plymouth after installing the driver ;)
[06:26] <valorie> pff, it's not just for dual screens
[06:26] <lordievader> valorie: Hihi, X is way later ;)
[06:26] <rowlode> After about 23 sec. linux detects a real time clock, then usb devices, then sda, sdb, sdc, sdd and freeze
[06:26] <valorie> that's not a good info for xrandr
[06:27] <lordievader> rowlode: Hmm, allways on the disks?
[06:27] <rowlode> Yes
[06:27] <lordievader> fsck + smart checks ;)
[06:28] <silv3r_m00n> valorie: this is the output of my xrandr, http://pastie.org/9096849
[06:28] <rowlode> lordievader: On 13.10 it was very rare that it stopped right after rtc or mice (< 1% of boot freeze cases)
[06:29] <lordievader> rowlode: Still it is a good idea to do the checks I've suggested, you might just have a bad disk on your hands.
[06:30] <silv3r_m00n> so it can't be fixed ?
[06:31] <valorie> lordievader should look at that, he said NO
[06:31] <valorie> :-)
[06:31] <rowlode> Yes, thanks for your hints lordievader and valorie. I'm gonna check them next time i ned to bootand it fails again. Until then: never stop a running system ;-)
[06:31] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: Probably not.
[06:32] <valorie> good luck, rowlode
[06:32] <valorie> pff, too slow
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> ok
[06:32] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: It might be (very unlikely) that you can recompile the kernel with the driver included instead of a module. But this is unlikely and not supported here.
[06:32] <silv3r_m00n> an nvidia welcome screen comes after the kubuntu 5 dot screen, so this means that nvidia drivers are loaded after that ?
[06:32] <lordievader> Hmm, fsck and smart can usually be done on a running system....
[06:32] <valorie> silv3r_m00n: you might ask in #ubuntu-kernel
[06:33] <valorie> they might have a patch for you to test
[06:33] <valorie> really nice folks in there
[06:33] <lordievader> I suppose, don't really know the nvidia drivers.
[06:33] <valorie> in kubuntu we don't mess with the kernel
[06:33] <valorie> but they fixed my sound once a couple of years ago
[06:34]  * lordievader wonders if Kubuntu would boot his 3.15-rc1 kernel.
[06:37] <silv3r_m00n> can gpu performance be effected by the desktop env ? either kde or cinnamon ? i have quadcore+8gram + geforce 210 on 2 machines, the machine with linux mint cinnamon had better graphics rendering compared to this kubuntu machine
[06:50] <jaik> hi
[06:50] <jaik> question...
[06:51] <jaik> I just jumped from kubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[06:51] <valorie> did the upgrade go well?
[06:51] <jaik> and noticed that the display settings chanded a lot
[06:52] <jaik> actually I still have 12.04
[06:52] <jaik> I have two partitions for installing
[06:52] <jaik> one I use it for regular use and the other for testing
[06:52] <jaik> actually Im doing a test run
[06:53] <jaik> any who...
[06:53] <jaik> on 12.04 when I connect an external display
[06:55] <jaik> it would automatically popup a dialog with a question if I wanted to automatically config my dual monitor
[06:55] <jaik> dont see that anymore
[06:55] <jaik> so I went straigt to the display settings
[06:55] <valorie> now there is kscreen
[06:55] <jaik> and everything is changed
[06:55] <valorie> by "everything" not sure what you mean
[06:56] <jaik> long sroty short
[06:56] <jaik> cant find how to mirror my display
[06:56] <jaik> before it was real easy
[06:57] <valorie> well, I feel very ignorant -- I don't know what you mean by "mirror the display" either
[06:58] <valorie> hopefully someone who knows more will speak up
[06:59] <jaik> o to display same image on both displays
[07:00] <jaik> before I would just select an option
[07:00] <jaik> I think it was something like "make displays the same size"
[07:01] <jaik> and by clicking that it would find the best resolution for both displays to show the same thing on both of them
[07:01] <valorie> you might check out xrandr
[07:02] <jaik> but on 14.04 I only see a screen that show both my displays
[07:02] <valorie> !xrandr
[07:02] <jaik> oh ok
[07:02] <jaik> let me check it out
[07:03] <silv3r_m00n> does compiz work with kubuntu ?
[07:03] <valorie> !info compiz
[07:03] <valorie> if it's packaged, it can be used
[07:04] <cr45h0v3r1d3> sweet
[07:04] <cr45h0v3r1d3> so you can get all kinds of fancy 3d desktop effects in kubuntu too i'm guessing ?
[07:04] <valorie> in kwin it's built in, yes
[07:04] <cr45h0v3r1d3> and non 3d wobbly windows etc
[07:04] <cr45h0v3r1d3> valorie: good news ;)
[07:04] <valorie> if you computer can render the stuff
[07:05] <cr45h0v3r1d3> yeah should be able to
[07:05] <valorie> systemsettings
[07:05] <valorie> go wild
[07:05] <lordievader> jaik: Just drag the two screen on top of eachother for mirror.
[07:05] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: There is no need for compiz, we got kwin :D
[07:05] <cr45h0v3r1d3> yeah i think you can just use the built in kwin, without installing compiz
[07:06] <silv3r_m00n> lordievader: yeah kwin is working fine, i hope its using my graphics card for the job
[07:06] <jaik> lordievader: tried it and it did something real funky
[07:07] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: You can check, system settings -> desktop effects -> advanced -> compositing type.
[07:08] <jaik> it compacted the image from desktops
[07:08] <lordievader> jaik: It will match the resolution, is that what you mean?
[07:08] <jaik> yes thats what I want
[07:08] <jaik> for it to match both resolutions
[07:08] <silv3r_m00n> lordievader: compositing type is opengl 2.0 and opengl renderer is the nvidia driver, so i guess its working
[07:09] <jaik> but when I tried draging my secondary display to my prmary display
[07:09] <jaik> it showed a distorioned imaged with what seemed to be both desktops on each display
[07:09] <lordievader> silv3r_m00n: Jup :)
[07:10] <cr45h0v3r1d3> both monitors have the same native resolution jaik?
[07:10] <lordievader> jaik: Hmm, that is strange. Unfortunatly I don't have a multimonitor setup here to see if I get the same behaviour.
[07:10] <jaik> cr45h0v3r1d3: no
[07:10] <jaik> but that the thing
[07:11] <jaik> on verision 12.04 i would select to make both resolutions the same
[07:12] <jaik> and after clicking apply it would reduce resolutions on both displays to the highest compatibe dislay for both
[07:12] <cr45h0v3r1d3> yeah
[07:13] <jaik> but on this new version I dont see nothing like that. I assumed that by draging one display on top of the other that would do the trick but it did what I described earlier
[07:14] <jaik> like a distorted split screen on both my laptop and my tv
[07:15] <cr45h0v3r1d3> maybe you can manually do it in the settings somewhere
[07:19] <lordievader> jaik: Can you give the output of the command "xrandr"?
[07:19] <lordievader> !pastebin | jaik
[07:19] <jaik> sure
[07:20] <jaik> let me hook up both my displays
[07:25] <jaik> lordievader: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297391/
[07:26] <lordievader> jaik: What happens when you first set both to 1360x768 and then mirror them?
[07:27] <captain_haddock> valorie: Still around?
[07:27] <valorie> yes
[07:27] <captain_haddock> valorie: re:virtualbox, I'm having trouble accessing my USB from within an XP guest
[07:28] <valorie> I assume by XP you mean windows
[07:28] <valorie> I've never done that, sorry
[07:29] <valorie> there may be others who use VMs a lot more than me
[07:29] <jaik> lordievader: have not tried that let me see. this is actually a different tv than the one I used earlier on this one it just takes the highest resolution and displays same image on both. But since my laptop renders a smaller resolution I only see portion of the display
[07:34] <jaik> lordievader: cant change my tv res http://imagebin.org/306722
[07:35] <lordievader> Try xrandr ;)
[07:37] <jaik> will do thx
[07:39] <captain_haddock> valorie: No worries. Thanks :)
[07:48] <jaik> lordievader: did it. used this command http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297457/
[07:49] <jaik> thx
[07:49] <jaik> Ill just make a little script to do this. I use my laptop a lot with xbmc :p
[07:53] <lordievader> jaik: Jup that'll work ;) You can just throw the command in your xinit.
[07:58] <jaik> me again... wondering if ther is a way for me to automatically run this command when I plug in my hdmi cable? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7297457/
[08:08] <MoonUnit`> maybe with sec 'simple event correlator' it watches logs and can exec a command when it see's a matching pattern.
[08:08] <MoonUnit`> http://simple-evcorr.sourceforge.net/man.html
[08:13] <jaik> I actually found something that might work... https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=96537
[09:04] <mrub> hello everyone! yesterday i upgraded to 14.04 and now i get an kwallet error code 42 and cannot access my wallet. so far, i have not found a comprehensive list of kwallet errors. can anyone point me to such a list and or tell me what goes wrong?
[09:21] <Quintasan> mrub: I think people in #kde-devel might know more
[10:07] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:17] <tester1337> hello, I got a question about kubuntu I was hoping someone can help me with?
[11:18] <tester1337> so currently I got a dual boot system windows 7 and Ubuntu. I am wondering if I want to install kUbuntu do I just have to overwrite the ubuntu install or do I need to do the whole grub restore thing aswell before that
[11:24] <lordievader> tester1337: You can simply install the 'kubuntu-desktop' package on your Ubuntu machine to have Kubuntu :)
[14:03] <mrub_> Quintasan: thank you
[14:36] <rvraghav93> Why does "Show in folder" of downloads when opened via the Download tab of chrome open via konquerer rather than dolphin ?
[14:37] <rvraghav93> this changed behaviour was after upgrading to 14
[14:37] <rvraghav93> Any suggestions to change it back to dolphin?
[14:38] <snele> rvraghav93: go to system settings>default applications and choose dolphin for default file manager
[14:38] <rvraghav93> snele: thanks :)
[14:42] <rcw2> yes, chrome may have an audio issue.  maybe i should reinstall it
[14:55] <vistakiller> hello i have just upgrade my system and is an excellent version but i am little confused with popup notifications
[14:55] <vistakiller> is not appear good
[14:55] <vistakiller> is there anyway to change them?
[15:01] <prillian5> hi
[15:01] <DJ_Unibob> Sigh, upgrading to 14.04 broke my system, stuck at 1024x768 on my primary display and my secondary display refuses to work.
[15:01] <prillian5> can i switch from a non LTS to LTS version?
[15:02] <vistakiller> prillian5 yes
[15:02] <genii_> prillian5: You can go for instance from 13.10 to 14.04, yes
[15:02] <vistakiller> DJ try to reinstall gpu card drivers
[15:03] <vistakiller> anyone know why i have a plasma popup in the left up corner for notifications?
[15:03] <prillian5> k, cause i've read before that this is not possible in each circumstances
[15:04] <DJ_Unibob> ALright. I'll try that, how would I go about finding the propreitery drivers program?
[15:04] <prillian5> but btw. i read before 10 seconds, that openoffice is back in kubuntu ?!
[15:04] <genii_> prillian5: If you are running for instance 13.04 then likely you need to go 13.04->13.10->14.04
[15:04] <prillian5> not libre anymore?
[15:05] <prillian5> ah sorry, i was wrong
[15:05] <prillian5> see, libre is still in use.
[15:05] <vistakiller> DJ what gpu you have?
[15:06] <DJ_Unibob> eVga 8800 GTS 640 mb
[15:07] <vistakiller> there is a progamme in system for gpu drivers
[15:07] <DJ_Unibob> which is nVidia, if you were unsure.  :)
[15:07] <vistakiller> use it and install them
[15:07] <DJ_Unibob> Not for my linux partition, no.
[15:07] <vistakiller> 333.38 is in the repositories
[15:08] <vistakiller> give in a treminal
[15:08] <vistakiller> glxinfo
[15:08] <vistakiller> and take a look what driver you use
[15:08] <prillian5> is there a overview what changed for 14.04
[15:08] <DJ_Unibob> at least I haven't found it anyway, I do see the 333.38 in the repositories, but it shows them as already running, but doesn't seem to make a difference.
[15:08] <prillian5> from 13.10
[15:10] <DJ_Unibob> telling me a system restart is needed, hopefully this will work, I'll brb.
[15:11] <vistakiller> prillian5 http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-14.04
[15:12] <vistakiller> can anyone ping my name to see notifications?
[15:14] <prillian5> [~spiros@94.71.217.157] [17:13] ==  realname : purple [17:13] ==  channels : #kubuntu [17:13] ==  server   : hitchcock.freenode.net [Sofia, BG, EU] [17:13] == End of WHOIS
[15:14] <DJ_Unibob> That fixed the display issue.  :)
[15:15] <vistakiller> how can i get off the plasma notification in the left upper corner?
[15:16] <DJ_Unibob> I disabled the quiet boot and there were quite a few things that had a status of [fail] during the boot.
[15:16] <prillian5> some nice improvements
[15:17] <DJ_Unibob> I'm now going to see if I can boot into the ubuntu desktop, that was failing before, though I could boot into KDE
[15:17] <prillian5> btw. big praise to KDE. Have to used gnome some weeks ago. Result: I still not like it. I love KDE
[15:19] <Shaan7> prillian5: thanks :D
[15:20] <prillian5> the new networkmanager is also really nice
[15:22] <vistakiller> anyone know about notifications? why i have a plasma notification appart from tray in the left up corner?
[15:22] <vistakiller> anyone else has this?
[15:30] <MoonUnit`> vistakiller, do you have an extra notification widget on the screen?
[15:30] <vistakiller> yes but i dont remember to install it
[15:31] <vistakiller> is in the up left corner and it dont have tools to delete it or to erase it
[15:31] <vistakiller> is just a plasma icon that popup and stay there
[15:31] <vistakiller> anyone else has this?
[15:33] <vistakiller> notify-osd is a native kubuntu package?
[15:35] <MoonUnit`> vistakiller,  maintainer is DX Team <dx-team@lists.ubuntu.com> , i don't have it installed on mine
[15:35] <vistakiller> MoonUnit do you have this in you system? the upcorner plasma?
[15:37] <MoonUnit`> only notifications i have are from the notification widget in the system tray.
[15:37] <vistakiller> strange then how they get there.. :P
[15:38] <vistakiller> is an upgrade system
[15:38] <vistakiller> time for a restart
[15:40] <vistakiller> i think i have found it
[15:41] <vistakiller> is from pidgin :P
[15:41] <MoonUnit`> hah i have pidgin notifications disabled
[15:41] <Shaan7> just use kde telepathy :)
[15:42] <prillian5> #is-AO+13/4ab!
[15:43] <vistakiller> i use pidgin 6 years now..
[15:43] <vistakiller> maybe more
[15:44] <prillian5> i also have used pidgin many years, and it is great application. But now i use telepathy and konversation
[15:45] <prillian5> i like the integration of telepathy in main OS, and there is nothing i miss at the moment, but a good irc integration, cause of this i use konversation
[15:46] <vistakiller> i dont know how to add irc to telepathy
[15:48] <prillian5> vistakiller: me too, cause of this i use konversation ( don't like quassel )
[15:48] <prillian5> konversation is better for irc than pidgin
[15:49] <prillian5> and the only downside is, that irc and messenger is not still in the same programm (like in pidgin before), but the upside is, not so much gnome-packeges need to be installed anymore (for pidgin)
[15:52] <prillian5> hope voip will work soon in telepathy.
[15:54] <vistakiller> now i lost thunderbird new email notification
[15:54] <vistakiller> i dont know how i get this to work with kde notification
[15:54] <vistakiller> i dont remember
[16:05] <prillian5> vistakiller: better use kmail
[16:05] <prillian5> its really great
[16:05] <prillian5> switched before 2 years to kmail. great groupware
[16:05] <vistakiller> i use kmail for dapper but i stop use it three years now after an upgrade that break everything
[16:06] <prillian5> i know this dark time of kmail, but trust me, those times are gone
[16:06] <vistakiller> i will give a try
[16:07] <vistakiller> i was once a loyal kmail user :P
[16:07] <prillian5> i even hate kmail in those times and also switched to thunderbird. But till 2 years  it is solid like in KDE3
[16:07] <prillian5> The devs done a good job and the desktop integration is also really good.
[16:08] <prillian5> k, i'm out now
[16:08] <vistakiller> ok bye :)
[16:08] <prillian5> barbecue time :D
[16:08] <vistakiller> is there a bitcoin plasma widget?
[16:14] <MoonUnit`> seems to be 4
[16:15] <Krise> hi, need some help
[16:16] <genii> !details | Krise
[16:16] <Krise> how can i enable mobile broadband?
[16:16] <Krise> i can see enable wireless and enable networking but no enable mobile broadband
[16:17] <Krise> anybody?
[16:17] <DJ_Unibob> Thanks guys, everything seems to be back in order, much appreciated.
[16:19] <genii> Krise: What sort of device are you using to connect to the mobile broadband? eg: tethering your phone, internal mPCIe card like Gobi, external USB device like LTE RocketStick, etc
[16:19] <Krise> i have Huawei internet stick
[16:20] <Krise> i did make new connection in network manager but still nothing
[16:23] <genii> Krise: Sometimes firmware for the device must be downloaded and placed in /lib/firmware/ directory. Other times special instructions may be needed. Please unplug the stick, wait 5 seconds and then re-plug it in, and then please use the pastebin service to put the results of: dmesg|tail   so that we can determine the exact device codes for it
[16:25] <Krise> ok, dont go anywhere genii, i have to disconnect this computer and plug it in to my kubuntu laptop
[16:28] <genii> Krise: I'm here for at least the next 4 1/2 hours :)
[16:28] <Krise> good
[16:42] <scrollice> hiii
[17:12] <Krise> genii
[17:12] <Krise> http://paste.kde.org/pd8mbxm5x
[17:12] <lordievader> Good evening.
[17:13] <genii> Krise: Reading
[17:13] <Krise> thank u genii
[17:14] <vistakiller> after three years away from kmail i think is still very confusing
[17:14] <vistakiller> to much option nothing clear what to do
[17:15] <genii> Krise: Do you have the package "usb-modeswitch" installed?
[17:16] <Krise> im not sure,
[17:17] <Krise> and i can not  doo that without geting my int.stick work
[17:18] <Strav> He. I'm having some troubles in getting pulseaudio to recognize my usb headset. I set the log level to 3 and here is the syslog when I try to plug the headset: http://pastebin.com/YnArhuLw  (note, the headset is recognized when I boot or if I reset pulse audio but this messes with phonon and I'd rather avoid having to reset pulse each time) Any suggestion on how to fix this would be greatly appreciated :)
[17:18] <genii> Krise: You have no wired connection nearby to plug directly into, or a regular wifi?
[17:18] <genii> Krise: What says the result of: apt-cache policy usb-modeswitch   ..?
[17:18] <vistakiller> anyone work with kmail?
[17:18] <Krise> one sec genii
[17:19] <vistakiller> how can i add two account to one incoming folder?
[17:20] <Krise> genii it says installed : 1.2.3 +repack0- lubuntu3
[17:20] <genii> Krise: OK. That's good, actually.
[17:21] <Krise> good
[17:21] <Krise> i like good
[17:21] <lordievader> :)
[17:23] <Strav> vistakiller: I'd be interested to know too.
[17:24] <vistakiller> can i merge two accounts in kmail?
[17:24] <vistakiller> in one folder?
[17:24] <vistakiller> there are 100 option in kmail and there is no simple option to merge the folders :P
[17:24] <vistakiller> why they dont keep simple?
[17:25] <tadh> does anyone know how to actually un-install baloo ? I really do not need my cpu pegged all the time
[17:26] <genii> What says the result of command: grep -n Huawei /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules | grep 1506        (please type it carefully to be exact with uppercase H in Huawei for instance)
[17:26] <tadh> also why was baloo even shipped on by default. can't kde ask before turning this stuff on?
[17:26] <Strav> tadh: once the indexing is done, baloo should keep quiet most of the time (at least this is what I experience)
[17:26] <tadh> I mean it should ask what to index
[17:27] <tadh> not blow through 500gb home dir
[17:27] <tadh> with plain text datafiles which are 10s of GB
[17:28]  * genii slides BluesKaj a fresh coffee
[17:28] <tadh> :sigh: this nepomunk stuff is always frustrating
[17:28] <Shaan7> tadh: http://vhanda.in/blog/2014/04/desktop-search-configuration/
[17:29] <BluesKaj> thanks genii :)
[17:29] <vistakiller> no luck with merging account folders
[17:29] <tadh> yeah i saw that. I did that and it didn't work
[17:29] <vistakiller> this kmail is very confusing
[17:29] <tadh> i ended up doing the hack where I moved the binaries
[17:29] <tadh> i was hoping for a better solution
[17:29] <vistakiller> i will stay with thunderbird
[17:30] <genii> Krise: No result for the grep command I gave ?
[17:30] <Krise> genii, do i have to plug styick in ?
[17:30] <genii> Krise: Not for that
[17:30] <Krise> ok
[17:31] <Krise> Hold on genii i paste this to pastebin
[17:31]  * genii makes more coffee
[17:35] <Krise> genii here is something to read when drinking cofee http://paste.kde.org/p8ojlz9ii
[17:38] <genii> Krise: You forgot the | (pipe) part before the "grep 1506" :)  Can you please re-issue the command?
[17:38] <Krise> ok
[17:38] <Krise> sorry
[17:43] <genii> Krise:Actually, my sorry.... the part we want to look for is not on the same line as the manufacturer name... please use instead: grep -n 12d1 /lib/udev/rules.d/40-usb_modeswitch.rules| grep 1506     ( where here the 12d1 is for Huawei and 1506 is the specific device we want)
[17:47] <genii> ( the command may give no result, in which case we then need to add it manually)
[17:59] <Programmer_> anyone having issues with chromium syncing tabs between phone and desktop correctly since the 14.04 update?
[18:04] <vistakiller> in chrome that work without problems
[18:04] <Programmer_> Anyone know how to stop Krunner automatically launching if I start typing on the desktop? kinda annoying which I start typing thinking im typing into a window that just popped up? I'm on 14.04 btw.
[18:05] <Programmer_> vistakiller, Im having issues with it
[18:05] <Programmer_> Anyone know how to stop Krunner automatically launching if I start typing on the desktop? kinda annoying which I start typing thinking im typing into a window that just popped up? I'm on 14.04 btw.
[18:05] <Programmer_> oops
[18:05] <vistakiller> where you typing this?
[18:06] <vistakiller> for krunner?
[18:06] <Programmer_> like on the desktop
[18:06] <vistakiller> krunner pop without opening it?
[18:06] <Programmer_> yeah
[18:06] <Programmer_> w/o pressing alt+F2
[18:06] <vistakiller> in my system work like before but i am in upgrade system
[18:07] <Ashareth> it's not a 14.02 problem
[18:07] <Programmer_> hmmmm
[18:07] <Ashareth> it does the same to me on 13.x
[18:07] <Programmer_> interesting
[18:07] <vistakiller> i dont have it in 13.x
[18:07] <Ashareth> and i understand how it can be annoying :p
[18:07] <Programmer_> didnt do it for me on 13.10
[18:09] <Programmer_> so no one knows how to fix it?
[18:09] <Programmer_> what about the "new" builtin synaptics?
[18:09] <Programmer_> my touchpad still moves when im typing
[18:09] <Programmer_> that has to be a 14.04 issue
[18:10] <Programmer_> and the ibus thing keeps freezing my keyboard unless i close it
[18:11] <Programmer_> just highlight if you can help
[18:13] <vistakiller> i am in desktop and i dont have any of that problems
[18:13] <Programmer_> dammit
[18:18] <vistakiller> there is no option for touchpad to disable moving?
[18:19] <Programmer_> in the settings
[18:19] <Programmer_> i could try reinstall synaptics, but meh
[18:19] <vistakiller> i see that is not installed and for me
[18:19] <vistakiller> it says synaptics driver is not installed
[18:20] <vistakiller> but i am in desktop...
[18:20] <Programmer_> im in desktop
[18:20] <Programmer_> well laptop. same thing
[19:12] <mike> Sysinfo for 'mike-HP-ProBook-4430s': Linux 3.2.0-60-generic running , CPU: Intel(R)Corei3-2330MCPU@2.20GHz at 800 MHz (4389 bogomips), HD: 3/48GB, RAM: 1806/7920MB, 129 proc's, 16.0min up
[19:14]  * genii sips his coffee and wonders what that was all about
[19:15] <lordievader> Are we sharing uname -a output?
[19:48] <ifohancroft> Hello. Is there any known issue with the recommended proprietary driver for NVIDIA (331.38) in Kubuntu 14.04 i686?
[20:00] <ifohancroft> In other words: I am using NVIDIA GeForce G210M (GT218M) and when I choose that driver from the Driver Manager in System settings, it's almost impossible to login
[20:00] <ifohancroft> I get login loop or tons of graphic glithes
[20:00] <ifohancroft> glitches*
[20:45] <bennypr0fane_> guys, how can I make Quassel keep logs of all my chats?
[20:52] <ifohancroft> bennypr0fane_: I think you would get more help if you'd ask in #quassel
[20:53] <bennypr0fane_> ifohancroft: ok, thakns, will do
[20:53] <ifohancroft> you're welcome
[21:02] <D353R7F0X_> Has anyone had problems with the proprietary nvidia drivers after updating to 14.04  64bit?
[21:07] <lordievader> D353R7F0X_: Got the 304 running here. No problems yet.
[21:08] <D353R7F0X_> cool thanks
[21:27] <andy64> hi
[21:28] <lordievader> o/
[22:02] <pedro__> hola
[22:03] <bprompt> !es | pedro__