| dobey | wgrant: isn't quantal EOL now too? or is that being done this week sometime? | 00:59 |
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| wgrant | dobey: Any time from around now, yeah. But probably not for another month or so. | 01:38 |
| dobey | wgrant: well, the wiki says "April 2014" as EOL date, but i don't know how long it takes IS to move the arhcive to old-releases and do all the little bits of work for that | 01:49 |
| wgrant | dobey: It will EOL at some point after 2014/04/18, not necessarily on that date. And there's more than just IS things to consider. | 01:54 |
| dobey | wgrant: yes, but if the files are moved to old-releases, then the builds on lp will just start failing if they are still allowed, right? | 01:59 |
| dobey | i know there are lots of things to consider, i'm just trying to think of what bits affect building for quantal in a ppa, directly | 02:00 |
| wgrant | The move to old-releases happens well after Launchpad starts refusing to build. | 02:00 |
| dobey | ok | 02:00 |
| wgrant | (and old-releases doesn't affect the internal copy of the archive that Launchpad uses; that's separate again) | 02:00 |
| dobey | right, though i'd expect the internal archive to be cleaned as well at that point | 02:01 |
| stgraber | dobey: ftpmaster has all releases after dapper and AFAIK is the actual source server behind old-releaess.ubuntu.com (which is probably then tweaked a bit for pre-LP release so it also includes warty, hoary and breezy) | 02:05 |
| wgrant | Not quite | 02:05 |
| wgrant | We usually remove pool files from ftpmaster a few months after EOL. | 02:06 |
| wgrant | but dists is there all the way back to dapper, for no particularly good reason other than that we haven't bothered to clean it up. | 02:06 |
| stgraber | that could give some potentially very interesting behavior if we ever do things out of order ;) (package installs working so long as they haven't change between two series) | 02:08 |
| wgrant | Correct. | 02:08 |
| wgrant | Fortunately we've done this before :) | 02:08 |
| stgraber | :) | 02:08 |
| YokoZar | wgrant: Still, I find it a bit strange that we didn't keep Raring around as a target to, say, smooth upgrades from a still-supported Quantal. I suppose it's a moot point now. | 02:46 |
| wgrant | YokoZar: That would have meant deferring the support reduction for another three releases. | 02:52 |
| YokoZar | wgrant: I meant just the launchpady bits of the support reduction. We don't have to actively provide updates even though it's still possible to do a PPA build, for instance. | 02:53 |
| wgrant | YokoZar: Well, if I let people do PPA builds for obsolete releases then they *will* do that, and I will run out of buildd capacity. | 03:56 |
| wgrant | People have bad habits of building for everything, even if they have no users there. | 03:56 |
| wgrant | Plus it's totally reckless to still run an obsolete release, so there's no reason anyone could have to want a PPA build for raring today. | 03:57 |
| wgrant | Your machine was probably already pwned by Heartbleed. | 03:57 |
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| serg | hi here | 12:45 |
| serg | somehow one of our branches (lp:maria/10.0) cannot be pushed into, bzr times our with "ConnectionReset reading response for 'Branch.set_last_revision_info', retrying" | 12:46 |
| serg | anything we can do short of recreating the branch? | 12:46 |
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| phunyguy | hello, after breezing through some of the how-to pages for creating a PPA, I am still a little foggy as to how all of this works... Is it possible to import the current sources for the packages I want to include, to stay within the versions that are in their respective releases, but change some build options to suit my needs? | 15:41 |
| phunyguy | like I don't want to lose security updates... I just want the packages built differently. | 15:42 |
| dobey | it's sort of possible, yes | 15:52 |
| phunyguy | dobey: I would love some assistance if you have time.... | 16:19 |
| phunyguy | "If you're creating an alternative version of a package that's already in Ubuntu's primary archive, you don't need to upload the .orig.tar.gz file, i.e. the original source." | 16:21 |
| dobey | i don't really. sorry. basically, you pull the source, make your changes, add a new version entry to the changelog, appending ".1~$yourppaname1~$ubuntuseries1" to the current version, build a new source package, test that it builds/works locally, then upload that source package to your ppa | 16:21 |
| phunyguy | so that's a start. | 16:21 |
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| bobbyz | Hi all, is launchpad down? I can't seem to reach it, but not sure if that's a network routing issue with my ISP or if LP itself is dead | 19:17 |
| czajkowski | bobbyz: it's up | 19:18 |
| bobbyz | czajkowski: ok thanks. I'll have to debug a bit on my end then | 19:19 |
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| adam_g | bobbyz, im hitting similar issues today trying to connect to launchpad and archive.canonical.com. | 20:20 |
| silverlion | good evening | 20:59 |
| silverlion | i'd like to request help to retrieve https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/ back (I owned it but lost it due to hardware crash...) | 21:02 |
| silverlion | good evening pinky__ | 21:20 |
| wgrant | silverlion: There was no hardware crash there. It looks like you requested that Launchpad remove your account. | 21:42 |
| silverlion | wgrant, yep. i asked launchpad to remove it because i could not log in back due to email change | 21:45 |
| silverlion | and the email my former launchpad account was connected to is one that i dont use anymore | 21:45 |
| silverlion | so i was not able to reset the pw | 21:45 |
| silverlion | wgrant, hardware crash on my end => pw for launchpad lost => reset impossible => new set up with proper accounts and keys | 21:46 |
| wgrant | Hm, how did you ask Launchpad to remove it if you weren't able to log in? | 21:48 |
| silverlion | wgrant, i closed down my account for ubuntu one, for which i was able to retrieve the pw. | 21:52 |
| silverlion | what I did not know was that launchpad and Ubuntu One Service was tied together | 21:52 |
| silverlion | so one thing let to another | 21:52 |
| wgrant | OK | 21:53 |
| wgrant | The team has other admins, so I won't give it directly to you. You can ask one of them to give it back to you, since they can do a better job of verifying that you're actually who you say you are. | 21:54 |
| silverlion | wgrant, that's absolutely ok for me | 21:54 |
| wgrant | silverlion: Done. https://launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses now owns the team, and he can give it to you at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/+reassign | 21:56 |
| silverlion | wgrant, thank you for your time. | 21:56 |
| SergioMeneses | wgrant, thanks! | 21:56 |
| wgrant | np, let me know if you have any other issues. | 21:56 |
| silverlion | this time i will be more careful | 21:56 |
| silverlion | good night | 21:58 |
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