[00:59] wgrant: isn't quantal EOL now too? or is that being done this week sometime? [01:38] dobey: Any time from around now, yeah. But probably not for another month or so. [01:49] wgrant: well, the wiki says "April 2014" as EOL date, but i don't know how long it takes IS to move the arhcive to old-releases and do all the little bits of work for that [01:54] dobey: It will EOL at some point after 2014/04/18, not necessarily on that date. And there's more than just IS things to consider. [01:59] wgrant: yes, but if the files are moved to old-releases, then the builds on lp will just start failing if they are still allowed, right? [02:00] i know there are lots of things to consider, i'm just trying to think of what bits affect building for quantal in a ppa, directly [02:00] The move to old-releases happens well after Launchpad starts refusing to build. [02:00] ok [02:00] (and old-releases doesn't affect the internal copy of the archive that Launchpad uses; that's separate again) [02:01] right, though i'd expect the internal archive to be cleaned as well at that point [02:05] dobey: ftpmaster has all releases after dapper and AFAIK is the actual source server behind old-releaess.ubuntu.com (which is probably then tweaked a bit for pre-LP release so it also includes warty, hoary and breezy) [02:05] Not quite [02:06] We usually remove pool files from ftpmaster a few months after EOL. [02:06] but dists is there all the way back to dapper, for no particularly good reason other than that we haven't bothered to clean it up. [02:08] that could give some potentially very interesting behavior if we ever do things out of order ;) (package installs working so long as they haven't change between two series) [02:08] Correct. [02:08] Fortunately we've done this before :) [02:08] :) [02:46] wgrant: Still, I find it a bit strange that we didn't keep Raring around as a target to, say, smooth upgrades from a still-supported Quantal. I suppose it's a moot point now. [02:52] YokoZar: That would have meant deferring the support reduction for another three releases. [02:53] wgrant: I meant just the launchpady bits of the support reduction. We don't have to actively provide updates even though it's still possible to do a PPA build, for instance. [03:56] YokoZar: Well, if I let people do PPA builds for obsolete releases then they *will* do that, and I will run out of buildd capacity. [03:56] People have bad habits of building for everything, even if they have no users there. [03:57] Plus it's totally reckless to still run an obsolete release, so there's no reason anyone could have to want a PPA build for raring today. [03:57] Your machine was probably already pwned by Heartbleed. === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === dayangkun is now known as dayangkun_afk [12:45] hi here [12:46] somehow one of our branches (lp:maria/10.0) cannot be pushed into, bzr times our with "ConnectionReset reading response for 'Branch.set_last_revision_info', retrying" [12:46] anything we can do short of recreating the branch? === james_w` is now known as james_w [15:41] hello, after breezing through some of the how-to pages for creating a PPA, I am still a little foggy as to how all of this works... Is it possible to import the current sources for the packages I want to include, to stay within the versions that are in their respective releases, but change some build options to suit my needs? [15:42] like I don't want to lose security updates... I just want the packages built differently. [15:52] it's sort of possible, yes [16:19] dobey: I would love some assistance if you have time.... [16:21] "If you're creating an alternative version of a package that's already in Ubuntu's primary archive, you don't need to upload the .orig.tar.gz file, i.e. the original source." [16:21] i don't really. sorry. basically, you pull the source, make your changes, add a new version entry to the changelog, appending ".1~$yourppaname1~$ubuntuseries1" to the current version, build a new source package, test that it builds/works locally, then upload that source package to your ppa [16:21] so that's a start. === compholio is now known as ehoover [19:17] Hi all, is launchpad down? I can't seem to reach it, but not sure if that's a network routing issue with my ISP or if LP itself is dead [19:18] bobbyz: it's up [19:19] czajkowski: ok thanks. I'll have to debug a bit on my end then === BradCrittenden is now known as bac === pipedrea1 is now known as pipedream [20:20] bobbyz, im hitting similar issues today trying to connect to launchpad and archive.canonical.com. [20:59] good evening [21:02] i'd like to request help to retrieve https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/ back (I owned it but lost it due to hardware crash...) [21:20] good evening pinky__ [21:42] silverlion: There was no hardware crash there. It looks like you requested that Launchpad remove your account. [21:45] wgrant, yep. i asked launchpad to remove it because i could not log in back due to email change [21:45] and the email my former launchpad account was connected to is one that i dont use anymore [21:45] so i was not able to reset the pw [21:46] wgrant, hardware crash on my end => pw for launchpad lost => reset impossible => new set up with proper accounts and keys [21:48] Hm, how did you ask Launchpad to remove it if you weren't able to log in? [21:52] wgrant, i closed down my account for ubuntu one, for which i was able to retrieve the pw. [21:52] what I did not know was that launchpad and Ubuntu One Service was tied together [21:52] so one thing let to another [21:53] OK [21:54] The team has other admins, so I won't give it directly to you. You can ask one of them to give it back to you, since they can do a better job of verifying that you're actually who you say you are. [21:54] wgrant, that's absolutely ok for me [21:56] silverlion: Done. https://launchpad.net/~sergiomeneses now owns the team, and he can give it to you at https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-comms/+reassign [21:56] wgrant, thank you for your time. [21:56] wgrant, thanks! [21:56] np, let me know if you have any other issues. [21:56] this time i will be more careful [21:58] good night