[03:47] <greeter> upgraded to the latest lubuntu and it actually fixed video problems i was having :-D sweet
[03:59] <ianorlin> !yay
[04:00] <greeter> it's very nice
[04:00] <greeter> i get some weird error upon booting up, but it doesn't seem to impact system performance :-)
[10:19] <ichat> anyone here who can help me with a sound issue on my newly installed  14.04  my logitec ls150 (usb speakers) worked fine on   10.10 ... but after i finally installed a fresh 14.04  the usb speakers dont work, i dont get a volume mixer  in the menu nor in hte aplet bar...
[10:20] <ichat> the one thing on lsusb could be Bus 002 Device 004: ID 1130:1620 Tenx Technology, Inc.  ...
[10:33] <ichat> anyone able to help me find out what could be wrong with alsa or whatever is supposed to handle sound here
[10:46] <Techman> Why is pulseaudio not bundled in with lubuntu
[10:46] <Techman> pulseaudio and pulseaudio volume control is a million times better then what is shipped by default
[10:46] <raalex> yes
[10:46] <raalex> and it actually works
[10:47] <Techman> pulseaudio solves a zillion audio issues filed with lubuntu
[10:47] <raalex> everything seems to be plug and play with pulse audio
[10:47] <Techman> Exactly
[10:47] <raalex> and without it, not so much
[10:47] <Techman> and if it doesn't, just change the audio stream
[10:47] <Techman> and boom it works
[10:48] <raalex> even my extremely esoteric external usb sound card
[10:48] <Techman> I have some USB sound accessories
[10:48] <Techman> I set up pulseaudio t o automatically switch to my headphones when I plug them in
[10:49] <Techman> and switch back to PC audio when I unplug them
[13:52] <raalex> hmm, in recently installed google chrome
[13:52] <raalex> and it seems like it has set itself as default browser with no way to change it; every link outside of firefox opens in google chrome
[13:52] <raalex> even through firefox is set as the default browser
[13:53] <raalex> lubuntu 14.04, I changed firefox to the default in the "default applications of lxsession" pane
[13:54] <raalex> firefox says it's the default, and chrome says that it has no way to determine nor set the default browser
[14:18] <wxl> raalex: try using update-alternatives
[14:19] <wxl> raalex: set x-www-browser to firefox and NOTHING will complain
[14:47] <raalex> uhh
[14:47] <raalex> sweet, thanks a lot
[15:31] <wxl> raalex: np
[16:48] <chulis> wich verson of torrent comes with lubuntu?
[16:48] <wxl> chulis: depends on which version of lubuntu
[16:49] <wxl> assuming you mean latest:
[16:49] <wxl> !info transmission | chulis
[16:50] <chulis> i dont remember maybe 13
[16:51] <wxl> chulis: 13 what? lsb_release will get you the answer
[16:51] <chulis> latest 13
[16:52] <wxl> that's 13.10, or saucy
[16:52] <chulis> ok transmission
[16:52] <chulis> thanks
[16:52] <wxl> but it should be a different version in saucy
[16:52] <wxl> !info transmission saucy | chulis
[16:52] <wxl> slightly different :/
[16:55] <vjacob> HIYA
[16:56] <vjacob> sorry. lower caps now. how do I dist-upgrade from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS to Lubuntu 14.04 (LTS)?
[16:56] <wxl> vjacob: you don't. dist-upgrade is a different take on upgrade. you *CAN* sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:56] <vjacob> aah
[16:56] <wxl> vjacob: although i'm not sure if it will work between ubuntu and lubuntu
[16:56] <vjacob> anything to keep in mind before trying that out?
[16:56] <vjacob> ah
[16:57] <wxl> vjacob: you'll probably end up with lubuntu on top of ubuntu which is confusing to say the least
[16:57] <vjacob> easy enough, get the reply "No new release found"
[16:57] <genii> vjacob: If it says something like "command not found" you may need to install ubuntu-release-upgrader-core first
[16:57] <wxl> vjacob: if i were you, i'd copy your home folder somewhere else, wipe and install lubuntu, and return your home folder
[16:57] <wxl> !info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core
[16:58] <vjacob> slash etc slash lsb-release says "12.04 precise Ubuntu" though
[16:58] <vjacob> wxl, that might be an interesting idea :)
[16:58] <vjacob> not sure how practical it would be though at this point in time :)
[16:58] <wxl> you can put a space in front of that initial / and it won't be interpreted as an irc command vjacob
[16:58] <wxl> vjacob: well you don't want ubuntu, right?
[16:58] <vjacob> i'm already running lxde on the system
[16:59] <wxl> vjacob: any way you cut it, upgrading to lubuntu is going to leave you with all the ubuntu stuff
[16:59] <vjacob> so it's not a biggie, would be cleaner to go all out lubuntu yes
[16:59] <vjacob> aye
[16:59] <wxl> vjacob: yes but do you also have, say, pulseaudio?
[16:59] <wxl> vjacob: not to mention a butt load of gnome libs, unity crap, and probably *shudder* mono
[17:00] <vjacob> :) Thank you. a bunch wxl - genii
[17:00] <vjacob> + not - :)
[17:01] <vjacob> probably will switch over at some point soon
[17:02] <wxl> vjacob: the other thing you can do if you can get lubuntu installed by using ubuntu-release-upgrader-core is to wipe out all the ubuntu stuff
[17:02] <wxl> !purelxde | vjacob
[17:02] <vjacob> just for the record, I
[17:02] <vjacob> I am not seeing an ubuntu-release-upgrader-core package here
[17:03] <wxl> it's there for sure (see above)
[17:03] <wxl> although wait a minute
[17:03] <KyouReeUs4nfo> I am currently using qasmixer for volume control, are there any other LXDE alternatives for volume control from systray? volume control wasn't there for some reason and I couldn't add it from lxpanel either for some reason. It's a fresh install of 14.04 btw.
[17:03] <wxl> !info ubuntu-release-upgrader-core precise
[17:03] <wxl> ah ha
[17:03] <wxl> any other ideas on that one, genii ↑
[17:04] <vjacob> :)
[17:04] <vjacob> no bother
[17:04] <vjacob> will probably do a clean slate soon enough
[17:04] <vjacob> cheers
[17:05] <wxl> :)
[17:06] <genii> wxl: Try installing update-manager-core instead of ubuntu-release-upgrader-core  then... I think the package name changed somewhat from 12.04 through 13.10 somewhere
[17:07] <wxl> !info ubdate-manager-core precise
[17:07] <wxl> genii: nope :)
[17:07] <genii> !info update-manager-core precise
[17:08] <genii> wxl: You had a typo :)
[17:09] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nm-applet should autostart by default imo. I had to add /usr/bin/nm-applet to lx-session Autostart configuration (preferences--> default applications for lxsession --> Autostart ---> Type /usr/bin/nm-applet --> click Add).  Note that I didn't have edit or move any .desktop files to some .config dir.
[17:10] <ianorlin> known bug
[17:11] <wxl> genii: hahahaha
[17:11] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: not only is it a known bug it's in the release notes
[17:16] <KyouReeUs4nfo> wxl: It would be great if one could execute a bash script with nm-applet. For instance, when connection goes down, it will be detected by this script for a change in mac address or something of that sort before it is automatically brought back up. using cron for such scripts is pain because it doesn't work well with commands that require sudo in front of it. js.
[17:17] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: not an issue if you use the main crontab. do sudo crontab -e
[17:17] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: however upstart will more easily handle what you're talking about
[17:18] <wxl> !upstart | KyouReeUs4nfo
[17:20] <KyouReeUs4nfo> wxl: I will try sudo crontab -e, thanks.
[17:28] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Another thing I observed in 14.04 is locking "issue". In that, I couldn't lock my screen before being away, unless I "tweaked" light-locker. I had to enable light-locker on to be able to lock my screen. I think it should also be on by default. In order to do it, I clicked  preferences --> light-locker settings --> enable lightlocker on and automically lock the screen when screensaver is activated.
[17:36] <KyouReeUs4nfo> nice way to get to root prompt without using sudo by using /usr/share/applications/Root*Terminal.desktop (I don't use it that often)
[17:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> while I was trying to find a way to use nm-applet without using terminal, I accidentally locked my self out and went into a login loop. I don't know if one can reproduce this, (preferences--> default applications for lxsession --> type nm-applet in Widget1 text box and click Reload)..it most likely caused .Xauthority issue imo. This happened to me after an upgrade to 14.04 from saucy.  After that I wasn't able to log back into Lu
[17:45] <KyouReeUs4nfo> buntu profile.
[17:51] <KyouReeUs4nfo> Do I need pavucontrol and pulseaudio in LXDE for sound?
[17:53] <ianorlin> not usaually although sometimes if sound is so faint you can't hear it helps
[18:02] <KyouReeUs4nfo> how do I get out of tty3 if I press ctrl+alt+f3 ? shortcut?
[18:05] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: ctrl-alt-f7
[18:05] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: you have 6 ttys and then you go to x
[18:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> wxl: tht makes sense, we login to 7 by default right?
[18:06] <wxl> KyouReeUs4nfo: yep
[18:06] <KyouReeUs4nfo> wxl: kewl
[19:01] <Unit193> wxl: What's your /etc/host.conf look like?  Or did you fix it already?
[19:01] <wxl> Unit193: you responding the the mailing list message?
[19:03] <Unit193> To your Avahi question.
[19:04] <wxl> Unit193: yeah that one. i haven't checked /etc/host.conf but will.
[19:04] <wxl> Unit193: it's odd i've never had to do this with avahi before.
[19:04] <Unit193> wxl: Right, indeed.  Only thing I'd think could be different is installed programs or startup.
[19:07] <wxl> Unit193: yeah i don't know. odd for sure.
[19:10] <Unit193> So, make sure your ps aux | grep avahi  and dpkg -l | grep avahi  don't lack anything too, in addition to that file.
[19:13] <wxl> hm that's an interesting thought!
[20:36] <zombiehoffa> is the new vlc crashing randomly for everyone or just me?
[23:23] <raalex> depends on what you mean by randomly
[23:23] <raalex> I watched a movie today and everything was fine