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XethronGood morning guys05:56
Xethronhello superfly05:56
Kilosmorning nlsthzn  and others06:33
XethronMorning Kilos06:42
Kiloshi Xethron 06:42
XethronJust installed Ubuntu 14.04 LTS06:42
XethronSo I'm back on Ubuntu......06:43
Kilosgreat news06:43
XethronI hope so, will try it out, and if I don't like it, I'll see06:43
Kilosdont you like unity?06:44
Xethronwill see06:44
Kilosthere are some things to do to on it06:44
Kiloshttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-14-0406:45
Trixar_za#1 Pray to your puny gods06:47
Kiloshaha hi Trixar_za what are you on about06:47
Trixar_zaWell, that's the first thing you should do after installing Ubuntu 14.0406:48
Trixar_zaAlso I always wanted to say that06:48
Kilosno man it works lekker06:48
Kilosah now the truth comes out06:48
Xethronihaha07:17
XethronI forgot to backup my fstab and mysql databases :'(07:17
* Xethron hits head against the wall07:17
nlsthznmorning all07:25
Xethronmorning nlsthzn07:28
nlsthzn*yawn* :p07:28
* Xethron gets his first cup of coffee! :D07:29
XethronThis should help heat me up07:29
XethronDamn its cold :(07:29
nlsthznah yes winter :p07:29
Kilosyeah winter gonna be bad this years methinks07:29
* nlsthzn doesn't have that problem07:29
XethronWinter is coming07:29
Xethronnlsthzn: where you from?07:30
Kiloswe hitting 8°c at night already07:30
nlsthznbrrr07:30
nlsthznI am from SA, but not there now ;)07:30
Xethronah07:30
Kiloshaha neil is in camel land07:30
XethronI was thinking maybe you're from the top parts of SA, like Musina... Its like a cold summer there in Winter.07:31
nlsthznyes the north is good07:31
nlsthznwill be there in June so not so bad... then down to Durbs :)07:31
XethronBut the summer is.......... Excrutiating* heat07:31
Xethron*I have no idea how to spell that word07:32
nlsthznnot so bad :p07:32
Xethronlol07:33
KilosMaaz, spell excrusiating07:33
MaazKilos: Suggestions: Excruciating or excruciating07:33
Xethronah07:33
XethronNice07:33
XethronMy bot also had a spell checker07:34
Kiloscleevr bot07:34
nlsthznI see Thursday will be the hottest this week, 42 degC07:34
XethronWhere?07:34
* Xethron gets his plane tickets ready07:34
nlsthznuae07:34
XethronOk, I'm going there right now!07:34
Kilosnlsthzn, you on windows?07:34
nlsthznnope07:34
nlsthznLinux sputnix 3.13.0-24-generic #46-Ubuntu SMP Thu Apr 10 19:11:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux07:35
XethronKilos: I believe the channel name: #ubuntu-za, would mean he is not07:35
Kilosmake a compose key then hit o twice for the °07:35
nlsthznwas on windows three days ago ;)07:35
* nlsthzn is to lazy07:35
XethronShame! Why? What happened?07:35
Kiloshaha Xethron you were here often on windows07:35
XethronNope07:36
Kilosand he works on win machines at work07:36
XethronWell, I think I was here once on my GF's PC coz mine was f**ked07:36
nlsthznif Windows didn't expect me to phone to activate it again I would still be on it... windows 7 is solid07:36
XethronHaven't used Windows since 2010 :)07:36
Kilosah07:37
nlsthznpity DRM 07:37
XethronActually, thats a lie, I used it for studies at University :(07:37
Xethronnlsthzn: Yeah, I have no problem with Windows 7 being a gamer PC... But working on it......07:38
Kilosim sure we chatted when you were on a win machine but np07:38
Kiloshi Golynx 07:38
nlsthznit does what you need from as OS..07:38
Golynxhi Kilos07:38
XethronIf I can't hit a shortcut key to open a terminal, that is pretty decent...07:38
Kiloseveryone starts the journey to freedom from windows07:38
Xethronnlsthzn: It doesn't have a decent command line, which is what I NEED from an OS07:39
Golynxo/ nlsthzn & Xethron07:39
Xethronhello Golynx07:39
nlsthznuse what works for you07:39
nlsthznhi Golynx 07:39
Xethrontrue07:39
XethronKilos, nlsthzn: Whats these Online Accounts things in Ubuntu?07:40
Kiloswow my old bug from 12.04 has carried over to 14.0407:40
nlsthznset up twitter, IM etc.07:40
Kilosi think its twitter facebook etc 07:40
nlsthznalso photo sharing to the cloud and all such things07:41
Kilosand google07:41
Kilosmust be a shortcut to your accounts07:41
XethronBut once setup, what can I do on Twitter via Ubuntu that I can't do normally?07:41
Kilosnothing07:41
nlsthznif you have a twitter client it will be automatically set up in the app, also the scopes can show tweets and you can search for them in dash etc07:41
Kilosthey trying to make it like smarphones and tablets where they all show without have to go there via browser07:42
XethronOh, that sounds interesting...07:42
Kilosactually i should look at the twitter one because twitter stopped pidgin working there07:44
Kilosthe swines07:44
Golynxthat must be so that ubuntu when ubuntu is plugged into a pc from the ubuntu phone, it will work on both07:45
Kilos?07:45
Golynxnevermind :-/07:46
nlsthzn:)07:49
Kilosai! cant find a twitter app. choqok will install lots of kde stuff here08:15
XethronI see Ubuntu One has been discontinued?08:16
Kilosyeah08:31
GolynxKilos did you try this game yet http://jarrydx86.byethost22.com/ubuza/index.php08:42
Kiloslemme see08:42
Golynxuse the arrow keys to move the orange ubuntu snake08:43
Kilosok08:43
Kiloswhat must it do?08:44
Kilosai! these games using keys08:44
Golynxclick the help button on lower right08:45
Kiloshaha08:45
Golynxlol08:46
Kilosim too slow it gets away from me08:47
Kiloshehe08:47
Golynx:) , i made it for fun 2 months ago . 08:51
Kiloslol08:51
Kiloshave you been ubuntuized so long already08:52
Golynxlol, not really08:54
Golynxubuntu isn't an all in one OS yet, i still need windows for 50% of my workings. But with time ubuntu will get there08:59
Kiloswhat cant you do on buntu08:59
Kilosthere are web designers that dont touch windows im sure09:00
Golynxsure with wine i can use windows stuff, but lack of ram i have to use windows seperatly. 09:01
Kilosai! the ram issue09:01
Golynxsure when you design for web you can get away with using one OS09:02
Golynxbut for me its mostly the mobile scene of things that are mostly supported for windows at the moment09:02
Kilosoh not android09:03
Golynxandroid, blackberry, symbian, j2me, tizen, ios etc.09:04
Kiloseish09:04
Golynxits much easier to get those dev environments setup in windows atm09:05
XethronMeh, I haven't used Windows in years09:06
Golynxlinux have alot of twists and turns before getting them to work 09:06
XethronOh hell no. I had to Install GIT the other day on Windows09:06
XethronI spent an entire day and I still couldn't get it to work09:07
XethronAnd don't get me started on C libraries09:07
XethronGolynx: The only thing I do lately on Windows is test on IE09:08
GolynxXethron: i dont use that, the github gui works nice on windows09:08
XethronAnd for that I have a VM09:08
Golynxi never compiled a single C program before lol09:08
Xethronlol09:08
XethronGolynx: what do you do?09:08
XethronOh, and you should cache your game images09:10
XethronIt tries to re-download them every time09:10
Golynxweb dev/ web design/ graphic design, smartphone app dev. I mostly stick to javascript/css/html plus python, java and php for server side09:10
Xethronah09:11
Golynxhehe i just made that game for fun really , was  going to delete it afterwards09:11
XethronWell, if you do some serious Graphic designing, and can't live without your Adobe products, I'd recommend a Mac, otherwise, JS/CSS/HTML/PHP/Java/Python is really easier on Linux09:12
Kiloscan you make it usable from pc?09:12
Kiloslike download the game not play it there09:13
XethronI mostly just use GIMP for my graphics needs, as I usually have a graphics designer to do all the designing, and I just do some minor editing09:13
Kilosand make the ok button work from enter key09:14
XethronCool, you converted 25 windows users to Ubuntu !09:14
GolynxKilos i can zip it for you if you want it09:15
Xethron:D09:15
Kilosweird using keys then need mouse to say ok09:15
XethronGolynx: make an Ubuntu Webapp :P09:15
Kilosyes please Golynx 09:15
Xethronhaa09:15
Kilosmight help me get used to using arrow keys09:15
Xethronhaha*09:15
GolynxXethron , yeah i use gimp too, will have to wait till i have enough cash to buy a mac though09:15
XethronGolynx: well, if you use GIMP, then what do you need Windows for?09:16
Kiloseish macs are too expensive man09:16
Golynxlol, what do you mean Xethron Ubuntu webApp ?09:16
Kilosand they have microsoft moments according to the fly09:16
XethronGolynx: its the new hype in Ubuntu. Its an app that opens a website, but has support for some native stuff...09:17
XethronGolynx: like, Gmail, opens in its own "browser" window, so it feels like its a native app, and it shows your unread message count in your launcher tray09:17
GolynxXethron: i think if i can get more ram i will use wine , that i think will solve my issues :)09:18
XethronPfft, wine is useless and too much of a struggle. Setup Windows 7 in a VM09:18
Xethronand share your folders09:18
XethronMap your documents in windows to your documents in Linux09:19
GolynxXethron: yeah, like phonegap apps. The ubuntu phone i read is very supportive of webapps html509:19
XethronAnd then, except for 3D hardware excelerated Games, everything works on it, unlike Wine that has glitches everywhere09:19
XethronHowever, Wine can run some Direct 3D Hardware Accellerated apps and games...09:20
GolynxXethron: i will double cross those bridges when i get there , thanks :)09:20
XethronAnyway, brb09:20
Kiloshaha that game is hard work09:23
GolynxKilos i mailed it to you09:38
Kilosty Golynx 09:39
Golynxif you open the snakey.html file in there it should open up in the browser09:39
Golynxnp09:40
Kilosok ty09:40
Kilosit opens but shows lotsa black blocks with white kinda envelopes in them09:44
Golynxdoes images load on that browser tab09:45
Kilosi see the main window yes only the bombs and stuff dont show09:46
Golynxif your in opera make sure the "Show Images" option is on and javascript is enabled09:47
Kilosit opened with firefox09:47
Kilosdunno why, opera opens on everything else09:48
Golynxit most likely your images setting in opera is set to Cached images, so it wont show new images on that new tab. 09:52
Kiloslemme look09:52
Kilosnope its set to show images09:54
Kilosbut opera dont wanna open it09:54
Golynxhmm, and when you refresh the page09:55
Kilosi still see the online game in opera but it wont open the game from the desktop09:56
Kilosnm ill play it online09:56
Kiloshead too sore to have to think much'09:57
Kilosoh mustnt i extract anything first09:57
Golynxyes, extract first on desktop or somewhere, then open the file from the extracted folder09:59
Kilosok lemme see 09:59
Kilosthere we go all sorted ty10:00
Kiloshaha10:01
Golynxif you open it before extracting then opera wont know the paths to the images.10:03
GolynxGlad it works :)10:03
Kilosty10:03
Golynxnp10:04
GolynxKilos sorry i saw your message now. Made a fix for the enter key to close popup and you can press H for help11:36
Golynxhi smile11:36
smilehi :D11:36
GolynxKilos i mailed it 11:36
Kiloshi smile ty Golynx its working fine here ty11:37
Golynxya its kinda weird to use mouse and keys for such a simple game hehe11:38
Golynxnp11:38
smile:)11:59
nlsthzno/14:04
Kilosyo nlsthzn 14:12
nlsthznhow are you uncle Kilos?14:13
Golynxwb nlsthzn14:13
Kilosok ty nlsthzn and you?14:15
Kilosjust woke 14:15
nlsthznhi Golynx14:17
nlsthznnap?14:17
Kilosya14:18
nlsthznlekker14:18
* Kilos installing kubuntu 14.04 on old pc16:18
XethronWell, my Ubuntu is still running16:35
XethronQuite nice16:35
Kilosit wont crash, very stable16:35
XethronPrevious version did16:35
Kilosonce you get used to unity it actually is very lekker16:35
XethronI think it was a problem with my Graphics Drivers or something...16:35
Kiloswhat error did you see then16:36
Kilosgraphics is a pain in ubuntu. dunno why them cards give such probs16:36
Kilosbut lately the additional drivers thing works well16:38
KilosXethron, what graphics card you got?16:39
Kilosthe nvidia-current also seems fine lately16:40
XethronKilos: that was the problem. Never got any output. The entire Laptop would just crash solid. Can't fall to TTY's, can't even do System Requests... And I mean, System Requests ALWAYS work. So yeah... And it never logged anything16:41
XethronI have an AMD Radeon HD 6470M16:41
Kilosblank screen or hang?16:41
XethronHang16:41
Kiloseish16:41
XethronEverything looks exactly as it did16:41
Xethronbut nothing moves16:42
Kilosthat sucks16:42
XethronBut16:42
XethronLets hope thats in the past16:42
Kilosbut no hassles with 14.0416:42
Kilosso thats good16:42
XethronIts been going nicely so far16:42
XethronJup16:42
XethronOh, and I had problems with my BT16:42
Xethronwhich seems better now16:42
XethronSo thats good too16:42
Kiloswhats BT16:42
XethronBlueTooth16:43
XethronI have a BT Mouse16:43
Kilosoh my i have never had BT probs16:43
Kilosjust work16:43
Kilosah16:43
XethronJup, well, seems perfect now :)16:43
Kilosyay16:43
Xethronyay16:43
Kilosonly prob i have is with new telkom d-link modem16:44
Kilosneed to do funny things to make it seen by nm16:45
Kilosim scared to take the modem to other pc now then its lost here again16:56
Kilossigh16:56
Kilosinetpro, werk weer more?17:16
Kilosjy het genoeg gerus nou17:16
Kilosohi superfly 17:16
superflyhi Kilos17:16
Golynxhi superfly17:19
Golynxare you a ios dev too17:19
superflyhi Golynx17:19
superflyno. I don't really do Android either, I'm just playing around with something to see how Android stuff works17:19
superflyI prefer getting my hands dirty on lower level stuff17:20
Golynxoh okay, good stuff17:21
Kiloseish kans van sneeu in die lesotho berge17:29
inetpronou al sneeu? Eish!17:42
inetprohello everyone17:42
Kilosjip ons kan hierdie winter baie koud kry17:42
Golynxhmm, the cold front dont like the Western Cape anymore 17:44
Golynxhi inetpro17:44
Kilosthe cape nearly always has yucky weather17:44
Golynxit did a limbo under the W-Cape then went straight up to Lesotho lol17:45
Kiloslol17:45
Kilosweird how the weather works17:46
Kilosthey cant predict accurately17:46
Golynxits actually the high pressure system inland that is more pushed to the west of SA that caused the cold front to come more inland on the east side of SA17:47
Golynxya it gets harder to predict the weather patterns these days17:48
Golynxwith global warming and all17:48
Kilosglobal warming isnt doing much warming here by us17:49
Golynxits mostly the pollution that traps the heat from the sun in the atmosphere that is slowly messing up global weather patterns. But we wont feel it until something big happens, like a flood or drought that lasts very long time17:51
Kilosdrought coming17:52
Golynxi think Bloemfontein only got enough water left till September or November, not sure if its related to global warming or the ANC :D17:54
Kiloslol17:54
Kilospoor maintenance on everything helps17:55
Golynxhaha ya17:56
Kilosnight all. sleep tight18:28

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